Re: High CPU usage, load average and system temperature
For me three years is about the time I consider doing two major service things to laptops. 1. Replace the CMOS battery. One thing you might consider doing right now is to reset all the CMOS variables to their default values. If a battery is low the values can change on their own and create strange problems that go away when the default values are reloaded – until – the machine is turned off again (and perhaps left for a time) so the battery voltage goes low and the bits slip again. Anymore I consider replacing the battery every other year. 2. Clean and/or replace the cpu/gpu fan and heat-sink assembly. The accumulation of gunk in these assemblies (often combined in a laptop) is dependent upon how much use the machine gets and where it is used. Blowing air through the assemblies may or may not be good enough. Local changes in air temperature, humidity, and altitude can make quite a difference in how fast heat is removed from the active components. As well sometimes the heat sink compounds degrade and/or mechanical issues change the heat-sink to cpu/gpu fit. fwiw On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > perhaps you will have to accept the consequences :) :) > > I think it's more than fan or GPU load issue. There are two reasons. > Firstly, GPUs are not suddenly start eating CPU one day. System has > been running fine for 3 years and months on exactly same setup. > Secondly, if you look into this screenshot[1] I have just booted ON > the laptop and it was already running at 84C. The only thing that was > started was Chrome newtab. You see load is way to high but none of the > processes are taking up too much resources. > > [1] http://i.imgur.com/0cBa9eg.png > > -- > Regards, > Sudhir Khanger. > sudhirkhanger.com > https://github.com/donniezazen > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
fwiw Googling " 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) " nets a whole bunch of linux problems threads Another silly thought. Dust-Off the card reader bay. If the switch position detection is optically based perhaps dust or dirt could become a problem. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Tim wrote: > Tod Merley wrote: > >> my first guess > >> write protect switch (tab) > > > jd1008: > > I tried with the switch in the up and the down position and tried to > > mount. > > In both cases I am getting: > > > > WARN: `/dev/mmcblk0p1' is write-protected, mounting read-only. > > Could be what senses the switch position in the reader isn't working. > Are other cards mountable as writable, in the same reader? > > On SD cards, it's not really a switch, there's no electronics behind it, > it's just an object that's felt, or looked through, in the reader. > Rather like the record protect holes in old fashioned cassette tapes. > > -- > tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp > > Linux 3.15.10-200.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Thu Aug 14 16:12:39 UTC 2014 i686 > > All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying > to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public > lists. > > George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not > a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: High CPU usage, load average and system temperature
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 02:50:03 AM Tod Merley wrote: > For me three years is about the time I consider doing two major service > things to laptops. > > 1. Replace the CMOS battery. One thing you might consider doing right now > is to reset all the CMOS variables to their default values. If a battery > is low the values can change on their own and create strange problems that > go away when the default values are reloaded – until – the machine is > turned off again (and perhaps left for a time) so the battery voltage goes > low and the bits slip again. Anymore I consider replacing the battery > every other year. > AFAIK CMOS battery on my laptop Thinkpad T420i is on the motherboard. It is too much effort to replace the CMOS battery. I can certainly look into it. Thinkpads have really great battery life. After using this system for 3 years battery life is still quite good. I may want to save battery replacement money in future laptop though. > 2. Clean and/or replace the cpu/gpu fan and heat-sink assembly. The > accumulation of gunk in these assemblies (often combined in a laptop) is > dependent upon how much use the machine gets and where it is used. Blowing > air through the assemblies may or may not be good enough. Local changes in > air temperature, humidity, and altitude can make quite a difference in how > fast heat is removed from the active components. As well sometimes the > heat sink compounds degrade and/or mechanical issues change the heat-sink > to cpu/gpu fit. > > fwiw Advice taken. I think Baloo the new KDE file indexer might be at fault here. Whenever I leave my system and come back I see two major processes baloo_file and baloo_file_extractor are always on top. And system temperature is around 90C. Once system temperature is that high it takes a while to get it down. Not to mention Linux tends to be very bad for multimedia stuff. Anytime you watch a youtube video there is a good chance that system might shutdown due to high temperature. -- Sudhir Khanger, http://sudhirkhanger.com http://github.com/donniezazen -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F20 - What replaced start_udev - Re: creating 70-persistent-net.rules
All the instructions I have found for 70-persistent-net.rules call for
running:
start_udev
But it is not on ANY of my f20 systems, arm or intel. Something
changed. Most likely related to systemd stuff.
So any pointers would be appreciated, as I still don't have this working.
On 08/25/2014 06:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 05:05 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 03:57 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 03:52 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is on a f20 arm system, but it should be like any F20 system.
Yeah,
famous last words.
So I want a 70-persistent-net.rules so I can specify the MAC
address to
the device name. Then in the ifcfg- I can change the MACADDR to
what I want.
I got this working on my Redsleeve arm system, but now I need it
on my
F20 arm system.
So I have done a little searching on creating
70-persistent-net.rules,
and I come up with two commands:
udevadm trigger
udevadm trigger --action=add
I have run both and no 70-persistent-net.rules
help please...
As before, you need to create it yourself. I wrote a little script
that will do this, which you can see here:
https://alteeve.ca/w/Changing_Ethernet_Device_Names_in_EL7_and_Fedora_15%2B#Writing_The_udev_Rules_File
Thanks. I used your script to create my rules file:
# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="02:56:02:01:f3:b9", NAME="eth0"
And that looked good (right madaddr and device name). So built my
ifcfg-eth0:
# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE="eth0"
BOOTPROTO=none
NM_CONTROLLED="no"
ONBOOT="yes"
TYPE="Ethernet"
NAME="System eth0"
MACADDR=02:67:15:00:01:78
MTU=1500
DNS1=208.83.67.188
GATEWAY="208.83.67.177"
IPADDR="208.83.67.178"
NETMASK="255.255.255.240"
HOSTNAME="miredo.htt-consult.com"
IPV6INIT="yes"
DNS2=2607:f4b8:3:3:9254:5400:0:188
Something is missing as after the change I restarted network.services
and got IPv6 RA errors. So I rebooted and now no eth0 listed with
ifconfig (or ip addr show). So something is lacking. Almost like udev
is not running at boot? How do I check this out?
I've not played with IPv6 yet, and on my system it "just worked". So
I'm not sure what to suggest. Is there a systemd udev target?
SOmething like this:
# systemctl list-unit-files --type=service|grep udev
dracut-pre-udev.service static
initrd-udevadm-cleanup-db.service static
systemd-udev-settle.service static
systemd-udev-trigger.servicestatic
systemd-udevd.service static
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Re: F20 - What replaced start_udev - Re: creating 70-persistent-net.rules
It appears to be
udevadm
Which is so complex. According to the man page 'command --reload-rules'
does NOT change any device that has existing rules. So by that, if you
change a rule, tough luck. It is SUPPOSE to be automatic.
I have tried exporting the dev-db and looking for the mac info. But
have not succeeded yet.
On 08/26/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
All the instructions I have found for 70-persistent-net.rules call for
running:
start_udev
But it is not on ANY of my f20 systems, arm or intel. Something
changed. Most likely related to systemd stuff.
So any pointers would be appreciated, as I still don't have this working.
On 08/25/2014 06:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 05:05 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 03:57 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 03:52 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is on a f20 arm system, but it should be like any F20
system. Yeah,
famous last words.
So I want a 70-persistent-net.rules so I can specify the MAC
address to
the device name. Then in the ifcfg- I can change the MACADDR to
what I want.
I got this working on my Redsleeve arm system, but now I need it
on my
F20 arm system.
So I have done a little searching on creating
70-persistent-net.rules,
and I come up with two commands:
udevadm trigger
udevadm trigger --action=add
I have run both and no 70-persistent-net.rules
help please...
As before, you need to create it yourself. I wrote a little script
that will do this, which you can see here:
https://alteeve.ca/w/Changing_Ethernet_Device_Names_in_EL7_and_Fedora_15%2B#Writing_The_udev_Rules_File
Thanks. I used your script to create my rules file:
# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="02:56:02:01:f3:b9", NAME="eth0"
And that looked good (right madaddr and device name). So built my
ifcfg-eth0:
# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE="eth0"
BOOTPROTO=none
NM_CONTROLLED="no"
ONBOOT="yes"
TYPE="Ethernet"
NAME="System eth0"
MACADDR=02:67:15:00:01:78
MTU=1500
DNS1=208.83.67.188
GATEWAY="208.83.67.177"
IPADDR="208.83.67.178"
NETMASK="255.255.255.240"
HOSTNAME="miredo.htt-consult.com"
IPV6INIT="yes"
DNS2=2607:f4b8:3:3:9254:5400:0:188
Something is missing as after the change I restarted network.services
and got IPv6 RA errors. So I rebooted and now no eth0 listed with
ifconfig (or ip addr show). So something is lacking. Almost like udev
is not running at boot? How do I check this out?
I've not played with IPv6 yet, and on my system it "just worked". So
I'm not sure what to suggest. Is there a systemd udev target?
SOmething like this:
# systemctl list-unit-files --type=service|grep udev
dracut-pre-udev.service static
initrd-udevadm-cleanup-db.service static
systemd-udev-settle.service static
systemd-udev-trigger.servicestatic
systemd-udevd.service static
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Re: F20 - What replaced start_udev - Re: creating 70-persistent-net.rules
On 2014-08-26 15:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
It appears to be
udevadm
Which is so complex. According to the man page 'command --reload-rules'
does NOT change any device that has existing rules. So by that, if you
change a rule, tough luck. It is SUPPOSE to be automatic.
I have tried exporting the dev-db and looking for the mac info. But
have not succeeded yet.
On 08/26/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
All the instructions I have found for 70-persistent-net.rules call for
running:
start_udev
But it is not on ANY of my f20 systems, arm or intel. Something
changed. Most likely related to systemd stuff.
So any pointers would be appreciated, as I still don't have this working.
On 08/25/2014 06:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 05:05 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 03:57 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 03:52 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is on a f20 arm system, but it should be like any F20
system. Yeah,
famous last words.
So I want a 70-persistent-net.rules so I can specify the MAC
address to
the device name. Then in the ifcfg- I can change the MACADDR to
what I want.
I got this working on my Redsleeve arm system, but now I need it
on my
F20 arm system.
So I have done a little searching on creating
70-persistent-net.rules,
and I come up with two commands:
udevadm trigger
udevadm trigger --action=add
I have run both and no 70-persistent-net.rules
help please...
As before, you need to create it yourself. I wrote a little script
that will do this, which you can see here:
https://alteeve.ca/w/Changing_Ethernet_Device_Names_in_EL7_and_Fedora_15%2B#Writing_The_udev_Rules_File
Thanks. I used your script to create my rules file:
# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="02:56:02:01:f3:b9", NAME="eth0"
And that looked good (right madaddr and device name). So built my
ifcfg-eth0:
# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE="eth0"
BOOTPROTO=none
NM_CONTROLLED="no"
ONBOOT="yes"
TYPE="Ethernet"
NAME="System eth0"
MACADDR=02:67:15:00:01:78
MTU=1500
DNS1=208.83.67.188
GATEWAY="208.83.67.177"
IPADDR="208.83.67.178"
NETMASK="255.255.255.240"
HOSTNAME="miredo.htt-consult.com"
IPV6INIT="yes"
DNS2=2607:f4b8:3:3:9254:5400:0:188
Something is missing as after the change I restarted network.services
and got IPv6 RA errors. So I rebooted and now no eth0 listed with
ifconfig (or ip addr show). So something is lacking. Almost like udev
is not running at boot? How do I check this out?
I've not played with IPv6 yet, and on my system it "just worked". So
I'm not sure what to suggest. Is there a systemd udev target?
SOmething like this:
# systemctl list-unit-files --type=service|grep udev
dracut-pre-udev.service static
initrd-udevadm-cleanup-db.service static
systemd-udev-settle.service static
systemd-udev-trigger.servicestatic
systemd-udevd.service static
I reported the inability to change network-interface names in
70-persistent-net.rules as a bug on centos 7.
http://bugs.centos.org/login_page.php , report number 0007472
I was told to set the two kernel parameters
net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
after that, still in centos 7, the kernel did not change the
network-interface names any more, but still I was not able to rename them.
This may help also in fedora 20?
suomi
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Re: F20 - What replaced start_udev - Re: creating 70-persistent-net.rules
On 08/26/2014 09:20 AM, fedora wrote:
On 2014-08-26 15:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
It appears to be
udevadm
Which is so complex. According to the man page 'command --reload-rules'
does NOT change any device that has existing rules. So by that, if you
change a rule, tough luck. It is SUPPOSE to be automatic.
I have tried exporting the dev-db and looking for the mac info. But
have not succeeded yet.
On 08/26/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
All the instructions I have found for 70-persistent-net.rules call for
running:
start_udev
But it is not on ANY of my f20 systems, arm or intel. Something
changed. Most likely related to systemd stuff.
So any pointers would be appreciated, as I still don't have this
working.
On 08/25/2014 06:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 05:05 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 03:57 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 03:52 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is on a f20 arm system, but it should be like any F20
system. Yeah,
famous last words.
So I want a 70-persistent-net.rules so I can specify the MAC
address to
the device name. Then in the ifcfg- I can change the
MACADDR to
what I want.
I got this working on my Redsleeve arm system, but now I need it
on my
F20 arm system.
So I have done a little searching on creating
70-persistent-net.rules,
and I come up with two commands:
udevadm trigger
udevadm trigger --action=add
I have run both and no 70-persistent-net.rules
help please...
As before, you need to create it yourself. I wrote a little script
that will do this, which you can see here:
https://alteeve.ca/w/Changing_Ethernet_Device_Names_in_EL7_and_Fedora_15%2B#Writing_The_udev_Rules_File
Thanks. I used your script to create my rules file:
# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="02:56:02:01:f3:b9", NAME="eth0"
And that looked good (right madaddr and device name). So built my
ifcfg-eth0:
# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE="eth0"
BOOTPROTO=none
NM_CONTROLLED="no"
ONBOOT="yes"
TYPE="Ethernet"
NAME="System eth0"
MACADDR=02:67:15:00:01:78
MTU=1500
DNS1=208.83.67.188
GATEWAY="208.83.67.177"
IPADDR="208.83.67.178"
NETMASK="255.255.255.240"
HOSTNAME="miredo.htt-consult.com"
IPV6INIT="yes"
DNS2=2607:f4b8:3:3:9254:5400:0:188
Something is missing as after the change I restarted
network.services
and got IPv6 RA errors. So I rebooted and now no eth0 listed with
ifconfig (or ip addr show). So something is lacking. Almost like
udev
is not running at boot? How do I check this out?
I've not played with IPv6 yet, and on my system it "just worked". So
I'm not sure what to suggest. Is there a systemd udev target?
SOmething like this:
# systemctl list-unit-files --type=service|grep udev
dracut-pre-udev.service static
initrd-udevadm-cleanup-db.service static
systemd-udev-settle.service static
systemd-udev-trigger.servicestatic
systemd-udevd.service static
I reported the inability to change network-interface names in
70-persistent-net.rules as a bug on centos 7.
http://bugs.centos.org/login_page.php , report number 0007472
I was told to set the two kernel parameters
net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
Where/how do you change these?
after that, still in centos 7, the kernel did not change the
network-interface names any more, but still I was not able to rename
them.
This may help also in fedora 20?
See SOLVED posts coming up. All working, but I am not renaming the
interface, I am changing the macaddr.
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SOLVED - Re: F20 - What replaced start_udev - Re: creating 70-persistent-net.rules
On 08/26/2014 09:02 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
It appears to be
udevadm
Which is so complex. According to the man page 'command
--reload-rules' does NOT change any device that has existing rules. So
by that, if you change a rule, tough luck. It is SUPPOSE to be
automatic.
I have tried exporting the dev-db and looking for the mac info. But
have not succeeded yet.
I had to carefully scan down the db and found:
P: /devices/platform/sunxi_emac.0/net/eth0
E: DEVPATH=/devices/platform/sunxi_emac.0/net/eth0
E: ID_MM_CANDIDATE=1
E: ID_NET_NAME_MAC=enx02560201f3b9
E: IFINDEX=2
E: INTERFACE=eth0
E: SUBSYSTEM=net
E: SYSTEMD_ALIAS=/sys/subsystem/net/devices/eth0
E: TAGS=:systemd:
E: USEC_INITIALIZED=104918
So the macaddr was being registered to udev. So I started playing with
the ifcfg0-eth0 file until I found the culprit. The line:
NM_CONTROLLED="no"
Was really meaning no NetworkManager control of the interface, and since
network is inactive by default, no eth0! Dah. So I just deleted that
line and let NetworkManager control the interface, as I DO want RA to
provide the IPv6 info. This is way I am changing the MAC address, so I
get an IPv6 address I can work with to put in DNS and can more easily
change IPv6 prefixes as needed. Can even change which system I use as
long as the rules are right, as I set the macaddr. Local Scope mac
addresses can be your friend...
thanks for putting up with me as I dug into this one.
What I get from copying ifcfg-eth0 from a Centos6 system to F20... :)
On 08/26/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
All the instructions I have found for 70-persistent-net.rules call
for running:
start_udev
But it is not on ANY of my f20 systems, arm or intel. Something
changed. Most likely related to systemd stuff.
So any pointers would be appreciated, as I still don't have this
working.
On 08/25/2014 06:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 05:05 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/25/2014 03:57 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 25/08/14 03:52 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is on a f20 arm system, but it should be like any F20
system. Yeah,
famous last words.
So I want a 70-persistent-net.rules so I can specify the MAC
address to
the device name. Then in the ifcfg- I can change the
MACADDR to
what I want.
I got this working on my Redsleeve arm system, but now I need it
on my
F20 arm system.
So I have done a little searching on creating
70-persistent-net.rules,
and I come up with two commands:
udevadm trigger
udevadm trigger --action=add
I have run both and no 70-persistent-net.rules
help please...
As before, you need to create it yourself. I wrote a little script
that will do this, which you can see here:
https://alteeve.ca/w/Changing_Ethernet_Device_Names_in_EL7_and_Fedora_15%2B#Writing_The_udev_Rules_File
Thanks. I used your script to create my rules file:
# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'.
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="02:56:02:01:f3:b9", NAME="eth0"
And that looked good (right madaddr and device name). So built my
ifcfg-eth0:
# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE="eth0"
BOOTPROTO=none
NM_CONTROLLED="no"
ONBOOT="yes"
TYPE="Ethernet"
NAME="System eth0"
MACADDR=02:67:15:00:01:78
MTU=1500
DNS1=208.83.67.188
GATEWAY="208.83.67.177"
IPADDR="208.83.67.178"
NETMASK="255.255.255.240"
HOSTNAME="miredo.htt-consult.com"
IPV6INIT="yes"
DNS2=2607:f4b8:3:3:9254:5400:0:188
Something is missing as after the change I restarted network.services
and got IPv6 RA errors. So I rebooted and now no eth0 listed with
ifconfig (or ip addr show). So something is lacking. Almost like
udev
is not running at boot? How do I check this out?
I've not played with IPv6 yet, and on my system it "just worked".
So I'm not sure what to suggest. Is there a systemd udev target?
SOmething like this:
# systemctl list-unit-files --type=service|grep udev
dracut-pre-udev.service static
initrd-udevadm-cleanup-db.service static
systemd-udev-settle.service static
systemd-udev-trigger.servicestatic
systemd-udevd.service static
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Zoneminder
Any news, when we get new zoneminder package into Fedora.. It seems, that we hawe quite old in use.. Or is maintenance of that packet stopped? Jarmo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Zoneminder
On 08/26/2014 09:10 AM, jarmo wrote: Any news, when we get new zoneminder package into Fedora.. It seems, that we hawe quite old in use.. Or is maintenance of that packet stopped? Jarmo Have you looked at the forums on www.zoneminder.com? In the "User Contributions" forum there's a thread about getting the latest zm 1.27.0 installed on Fedora. -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7320 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: High CPU usage, load average and system temperature
Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM, jd1008 wrote: perhaps you will have to accept the consequences :) :) I think it's more than fan or GPU load issue. There are two reasons. Firstly, GPUs are not suddenly start eating CPU one day. System has been running fine for 3 years and months on exactly same setup. Secondly, if you look into this screenshot[1] I have just booted ON the laptop and it was already running at 84C. The only thing that was started was Chrome newtab. You see load is way to high but none of the processes are taking up too much resources. [1] http://i.imgur.com/0cBa9eg.png Actually, the load is not too hugh, with 80% idle it leaves 20% doing anything, that shouldn't present a heat problem. I really think you have a *cooling* problem, not getting rid of the normal heat you have. Two ideas: Have you opened up the case and removed the dust? I don't mean open one of the little doors and saying "oh, pretty," but open all the case bits the vendor says not to. That is my first and most likely thought. You can measure power use by hooking up the power supply and using a Kill-o-Watt or similar meter. Each watt is 3.4 BTU/hr. NOTE: If your battery life is good, that tells you you are NOT using too much power, which tells you that you ARE keeping too much heat. I'm betting dust. Finally (bonus 3rd idea) boot a non-KDE live DVD and watch the temperature with that. Unlikely to be related issue, but you can feel as if you now know it not something running hidden in the background and doing something you don't see. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: USB monitor refresh
Update: it turns out this is a display link scenario... found a few posts about the frame buffer rate being the issue. Any thoughts on how to address it? On 08/25/2014 08:49 PM, CS_DBA wrote: Hi All; I bought a usb powered portable monitor (AOC e1649Fwu) for when I travel... If I plug in the usb connections before I boot my laptop it works (Fedora 20, Lenovo W540) however the refresh rate is slow (I'm guessing) as it doesnt refresh the screen until I pass the mouse cursor over that area. It is usable but sortof a pain... thoughts on how to debug/fix this? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WiFi permanently disappeared after booting test kernel
Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/01/2013 06:19 AM, Mike Fleetwood wrote: Hi, On my netbook I booted a test kernel 3.8.0-rc4+ I compiled. Now after booting back into my regular Fedora kernel 3.6.11-5.fc17.i686.PAE my wifi network device remains permanently disappeared. No wifi networks displayed in Network Manager gui. Also the Network Manager syslog messages make it look like the device has completely disappeared. Suggestions for restoring wifi welcome. Thanks Mike Fragment of Network Manager syslog messages when working before --8<-- Jan 18 23:01:53 edge NetworkManager[479]: WiFi enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file Fragment of Network Manager syslog messages when broken after --8<-- Jan 28 18:43:26 edge NetworkManager[466]: WiFi disabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file yum install rfkill Then provide the output of "rfkill list" I once tracked a similar issue down to someone picking up a laptop in such a way that they hit the hardware disable switch on the front of a laptop, which was a toggle and went into permanent OFF state. Saw that with the bluetooth switch togglrf ON as well, tracking down why smart phone battery life went down when working from home. The laptop was trying to mate with the phone. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD Video editing
Jonathan Allen wrote: Ed Greshko said: A quick test shows that avidemux can edit the file. I've not checked to see if some components from RPM Fusion are required. And, I've not check to see if there is any loss in quality when standard defaults are used to "copy" the video. For the ignorant among us, I want to copy/convert an MTS file to standard MPEG. How can I do this? Is this something avidemux can do? Jonathan Yes, assuming you know what "standard MPEG" you want, or are happy with the defaults. That's probably fine unless you need to match some finicky player like early video iPods. Alternately you can look at ffmpeg. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD Video editing
Anders Wegge Keller wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:07:36 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/22/14 18:05, Ed Greshko wrote: A quick test shows that avidemux can edit the file. I've not checked to see if some components from RPM Fusion are required. And, I've not check to see if there is any loss in quality when standard defaults are used to "copy" the video. Ooops... Just realized that avidemux-qt does come from RPM Fusion Free. I'm not a Fedora-purist, so rpmfusion is fine. A quick check show that I can open and convert the file to other formats. But the timestamp in the stream is missing. It's encoded as a subtitle strem in the videofile, but I can't get that to show. Also, what are the editing capabilities of avidemux? If I want to assemble a complete video from several parts of the input, and add crossfades or other transitions, captions, overlayes and so on, will avidemux still be the proper choice? avidecode is easiest to use as a cut and snip editor, other choices have been posted. You can also look at ffmpeg, which is nice for bulk convert tasks. I have found avidecode does the best job of the tools I have used in terms of keeping the sound and audio in sync, ffmpeg with async option comes right behind, and has some offset options which are sometimes helpful if the out of sync is a constant in the source material. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd never starts ntpd.service even though it is enabled
Thomas Horsley wrote: Probably this: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/451332.html Thanks, this is undoubtedly why I have had to start (or restart) a bunch of stuff after the net-fs is working. My rc.local is basically a while net-not-up; do sleep 1 done stuff that failed Have to look and see how hard it is to go back to sysvinit, which is dumb but reliable within its limited capabilities. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 4 USB TTL uarts on a USB hub - keeping them straight
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 08/22/2014 05:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/22/2014 02:00 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I found out about the lsusb command.
It is reporting that they all have the same ID:
Of course they do. They all have the same characteristics so there's nothing
to tell them apart until you attach something to them.
They are by the same company and I bought a lot of 5, so they are the same. But
no burnt in USB device number. Nothing like RFID for USB devices. Sigh.
Thus I need to bring up screen and get the host to respond to figure out which
host is which ttyusb.
That sounds wrong. I'm not saying I'm sure it's wrong, but I working on a system
which was using a setup like that for status displays. They found four extra
video screens really confusing to set up, and had some serial terminals around
to use. From memory, they did a rule in
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-{something}.rules
and that always gave the right names to the same devices.
I saw this in action, but I didn't set it up, I'm still looking for an easy to
understand doc on multiple monitor setup, because I do it at most once a year
when I get paid to relearn it. ;-)
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Re: F20 is fubar
Chris Murphy wrote: I'll answer the question I wish you had asked (classic politician's strategy): It's well understood that wireless is something of a CF on linux in general. So I'd say this is both "Not News" and "yes that sucks." You're probably best off wired for starters to get kernel, wpa_supplicant, NetworkManager and their dependencies updated. It is good that the networking comes up on boot, however it would be nice, when the system encountered a nfs mount in the fstab, it would mount them before completing the boot process. Absolutely true, but honestly I would settle for an option in fstab to manually provide that info. Just as there is a "noauto" option, an option use-net would be good, and if something is to be mounted on another filesystem, that should be delayed, not errored out. This might be better setup with systemd.mount or systemd.automount than with fstab so that you can specify that networking be pulled in before trying to do the mount. Maybe someone could argue that systemd-fstab-generator should be creating .mount units this way automatically from fstab when the filesystem is NFS, but I don't know a lot about this and is a question for a systemd-devel search. Me, I'll argue that the mounts should all be in fstab and work. I'm not against options to clarify what I expect, but having to edit a bunch of files really makes administration complex, which is a synonym for error-prone. I have long felt that Fedora distro sometimes fails to consider complexity, because developers deal with one environment and aren't in the real world, with Windows, AIX, HP-UX, IOS, and maybe firewalls using BSD. Simple and easy to use have a real impact on TCO for the typical mixed bag of a corporate environment. Glad to know everything is working now. Chris Murphy -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Zoneminder
Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:57:54 -0500 "Stephen Berg (Contractor)" kirjoitti: > > Jarmo > Have you looked at the forums on www.zoneminder.com? In the "User > Contributions" forum there's a thread about getting the latest zm > 1.27.0 installed on Fedora. > Tnx for info... I'll try that... Jarmo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
mate goof?
On my #2 machine (which has been running Gnome3 for a few days; I can do it now, but still don't like it much), I looked around, but couldn't seem to lay my cursor on the proper way to install mate. So I tried "yum install mate," and got nothing. Then I tried "yum install mate*" and got bushels whizzing by. So many and so fast that I begin to suspect I shouldn't've Is there something else I should now? "yum install *mate" or "yum install mate-*" or the like? Reboot?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mate goof?
Did you try yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" ? On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Beartooth wrote: > > On my #2 machine (which has been running Gnome3 for a few days; I > can do it now, but still don't like it much), I looked around, but > couldn't seem to lay my cursor on the proper way to install mate. So I > tried "yum install mate," and got nothing. Then I tried "yum install > mate*" and got bushels whizzing by. So many and so fast that I begin to > suspect I shouldn't've > > Is there something else I should now? "yum install *mate" or "yum > install mate-*" or the like? Reboot?? > > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/25/2014 09:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/26/14 11:16, jd1008 wrote: I had no problem using it on Linux after I had formatted it under windows as exfat. However, at tat time, I did not have a laptop with a working sdcard reader built-in. So I had used a USB sdcard reader/writer adapter, and Linux had no problems with it (i.e. was mounted RW). Later, I replaced my old laptop with a slightly newer one (Dell Latitude E6500) and I inserted the sd card in the dell laptop and always got automounted read only. As I had also mentioned, fc20 has no problem automounting it RW if I use the USB sd card adapter. OK, so you're basically saying it is formatted under windows and works when connected to a USB sdcard adapter. It doesn't work with the built-in card reader of the Dell Latitude E6500. I think the card reader should be on the usb bus. So, what does it show as in lsusb? I still would try formatting it with the rpmfusion utils and see if that changes anything. If that doesn't make a difference I'd file an rpmfusion bugzilla. Apparently, it is not on the usb bus $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 002: ID 062a:3286 Creative Labs Nano Receiver [Sandstrom Laser Mouse SMWLL11] Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:63f1 Microdia Integrated Webcam Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0a5c:5800 Broadcom Corp. BCM5880 Secure Applications Processor Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 004: ID 413c:8158 Dell Computer Corp. Integrated Touchpad / Trackstick Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:8157 Dell Computer Corp. Integrated Keyboard Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth) Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/25/2014 09:54 PM, Tod Merley wrote: My card is a Samsung 32 EVO Micro SD HC I held in an SD adapter and used and formatted by my Nikon camera. [tmerley@localhost ~]$ journalctl -f -- Logs begin at Mon 2014-08-25 06:16:28 PDT. -- Aug 25 20:28:07 localhost.localdomain dhclient[1015]: ... ... ... [starting line just before SD card plugged in] ... Aug 25 20:23:00 localhost.localdomain gnome-session[1411]: Window manager warning: Log level 8: meta_window_focus: assertion '!window->overr... failed Aug 25 20:24:27 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmc0: cannot verify signal voltage switch Aug 25 20:24:27 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmc0: new ultra high speed SDR50 SDHC card at address 0001 Aug 25 20:24:27 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 0 29.2 GiB Aug 25 20:24:27 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmcblk0: p1 Aug 25 20:24:28 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev mmcblk0p1, type vfat), uses genfs_contexts Aug 25 20:24:28 localhost.localdomain udisksd[1516]: Mounted /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /run/media/tmerley/NO_NAME on behalf of uid 1000 Aug 25 20:25:08 localhost.localdomain NetworkManager[640]: nl_recvmsgs() error: (-33) Dump inconsistency detected, interrupted ... [ending one line after SD card plugged in] ... ... [unmount remove re-insert] ... Aug 25 20:42:54 localhost.localdomain udisksd[1516]: Cleaning up mount point /run/media/tmerley/NO_NAME (device 179:1 is not mounted) Aug 25 20:42:54 localhost.localdomain udisksd[1516]: Unmounted /dev/mmcblk0p1 on behalf of uid 1000 Aug 25 20:43:32 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmc0: card 0001 removed Aug 25 20:43:36 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmc0: cannot verify signal voltage switch Aug 25 20:43:36 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmc0: new ultra high speed SDR50 SDHC card at address 0001 Aug 25 20:43:36 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 0 29.2 GiB Aug 25 20:43:36 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmcblk0: p1 Aug 25 20:43:36 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev mmcblk0p1, type vfat), uses genfs_contexts Aug 25 20:43:36 localhost.localdomain udisksd[1516]: Mounted /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /run/media/tmerley/NO_NAME on behalf of uid 1000 [tmerley@localhost ~]$ dmesg ... ... [ 202.037022] mmc0: cannot verify signal voltage switch [ 202.134193] mmc0: new ultra high speed SDR50 SDHC card at address 0001 [ 202.160009] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 0 29.2 GiB [ 202.163517] mmcblk0: p1 [ 203.258077] SELinux: initialized (dev mmcblk0p1, type vfat), uses genfs_contexts [tmerley@localhost ~]$ mount ... ... /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /run/media/tmerley/NO_NAME type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2) On my machine, journalctl -f hangs after the last line: $ journalctl -f -- Logs begin at Sat 2014-06-07 19:14:31 MDT. -- Aug 26 11:44:20 localhost.localdomain dnf[2094]: Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'updates' from 'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f20&arch=x86_64': Cannot download repomd.xml: Downloading successfull, but checksum doesn't match. Expected: f740c67dbd54f0d63eb4068cc0e83d473fbf1c41c535adba87c54a64ee7 Aug 26 11:44:20 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: dnf-makecache.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Aug 26 11:44:20 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Failed to start dnf makecache. Aug 26 11:44:20 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Unit dnf-makecache.service entered failed state. Aug 26 11:49:11 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... Aug 26 11:49:13 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Cleanup of Temporary Directories. Aug 26 11:50:01 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting Session 3 of user root. Aug 26 11:50:01 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started Session 3 of user root. Aug 26 11:50:01 localhost.localdomain CROND[2126]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib64/sa/sa1 1 1) Aug 26 11:51:57 localhost.localdomain kernel: [63B blob data] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/25/2014 10:26 PM, Tod Merley wrote: jd1008 wrote: " Later, I replaced my old laptop with a slightly newer one (Dell Latitude E6500) and I inserted the sd card in the dell laptop and always got automounted read only. As I had also mentioned, fc20 has no problem automounting it RW if I use the USB sd card adapter. " Well if you can sort out the specifics of your adapter (lspci -v -v) and which driver (lsmod) is being used you are probably pretty close to having enough info to either find a real solution by a Google search or to file a very precise bug report. Thanx Tod! Ed Greshko was right to say the sd controller is on the usb bus,but I did not use the -v -v option :) So: 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) (prog-if 01) Subsystem: Dell Device 024f Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 18 Region 0: Memory at f1bff600 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci Kernel modules: sdhci_pci However, in one of the links sent by another respondent, many bloggers asserted that using a tape on the sd card's write-lock slider, they were able to mount rw. However, putting tape on that slider (ostensibly to make it protrude more away from the body of the sdcard), which would make the card reader's mechanism for sensing the write lock in OFF position to work, DID NOT WORK for me because then I was unable to slide the card into the very tight slot. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mate goof?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:42:50 -0400, Joshua Doll wrote: > Did you try > > yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" ? Nope. But I'm running it now. Many thanks! Is there some way less annoying than google to find such commands? I had a hunch its like might exist, but no clue how to get to it. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/25/2014 10:45 PM, Tim wrote: Tod Merley wrote: my first guess write protect switch (tab) Could be what senses the switch position in the reader isn't working. Are other cards mountable as writable, in the same reader? On SD cards, it's not really a switch, there's no electronics behind it, it's just an object that's felt, or looked through, in the reader. Rather like the record protect holes in old fashioned cassette tapes. It is a slider about 2mm or 2.5mm long and almost 1mm thick. When in the up position (towards the corner which goes into the controller) it is supposed to tell the controller write lock off (disabled). But it is not working in my machine because some bloggers say that the slider needs to protrude a little farther away from the body of the sd card in order for the sensor to turn off (the on-by-default) write lock. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: High CPU usage, load average and system temperature
On 08/25/2014 11:37 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM, jd1008 wrote: perhaps you will have to accept the consequences :) :) I think it's more than fan or GPU load issue. There are two reasons. Firstly, GPUs are not suddenly start eating CPU one day. System has been running fine for 3 years and months on exactly same setup. Secondly, if you look into this screenshot[1] I have just booted ON the laptop and it was already running at 84C. The only thing that was started was Chrome newtab. You see load is way to high but none of the processes are taking up too much resources. [1] http://i.imgur.com/0cBa9eg.png I would not put it past the google developers to have put in code in their browser to do things you you are not expecting. I do not use it. Also, I asked friends using Apples and Chrome. Some say all is well, other report different problems. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/26/2014 04:19 AM, Tod Merley wrote: fwiw Googling " 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) " nets a whole bunch of linux problems threads Another silly thought. Dust-Off the card reader bay. If the switch position detection is optically based perhaps dust or dirt could become a problem. Good idea! Now that you mention it, I think that the 6 pack of pressurized air cans I bought from costco at a great bargain a couple of months ago will come in handy :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 is fubar
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Absolutely true, but honestly I would settle for an option in fstab to > manually provide that info. Just as there is a "noauto" option, an option > use-net would be good, and if something is to be mounted on another > filesystem, that should be delayed, not errored out. There's no need for "use-net" because "_netdev" exists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mate goof?
yum grouplist will return all the installed, and available groups. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:42:50 -0400, Joshua Doll wrote: > > > Did you try > > > > yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" ? > > Nope. But I'm running it now. Many thanks! > > Is there some way less annoying than google to find such > commands? I had a hunch its like might exist, but no clue how to get to > it. > > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mate goof? -- PS
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:42:50 -0400, Joshua Doll wrote: > Did you try > > yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" ? Now I'm on #2. It seems to have done fine, but I did notice one oddity: > Transaction test succeeded > Running transaction (shutdown inhibited) What does that second line mean? And should I placate it by rebooting soonest? Second PS: I had enough bits and pieces to get a mate panel started yesterday, and pretty well filled out -- but when I got back to the machine today, that panel didn't show up. Then I got : [btth@localhost ~]$ mate-panel ** Message: Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of name 'org.mate.SessionManager': no such name ** (mate-panel:9175): WARNING **: Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of name 'org.mate.SessionManager': no such name ^C [btth@localhost ~]$t What is this "session manager"? Will it be there now? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mate goof? -- PS
> Transaction test succeeded > Running transaction (shutdown inhibited) >What does that second line mean? And should I placate it by rebooting soonest? Pretty sure that this means that yum is making a call to systemd to prevent shutdowns, and reboots from happening while the transaction is taking place. >Second PS: I had enough bits and pieces to get a mate panel > started yesterday, and pretty well filled out -- but when I got back to > the machine today, that panel didn't show up. Then I got : > > [btth@localhost ~]$ mate-panel >** Message: Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of >name 'org.mate.SessionManager': no such name > >** (mate-panel:9175): WARNING **: Could not connect to session manager: >Could not get owner of name 'org.mate.SessionManager': no such name >^C >[btth@localhost ~]$t > >What is this "session manager"? Will it be there now? It should work after you've installed the MATE Desktop group. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:42:50 -0400, Joshua Doll wrote: > > > Did you try > > > > yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" ? > > Now I'm on #2. It seems to have done fine, but I did notice one > oddity: > > > Transaction test succeeded > > Running transaction (shutdown inhibited) > > What does that second line mean? And should I placate it by > rebooting soonest? > > Second PS: I had enough bits and pieces to get a mate panel > started yesterday, and pretty well filled out -- but when I got back to > the machine today, that panel didn't show up. Then I got : > > [btth@localhost ~]$ mate-panel > ** Message: Could not connect to session manager: Could not get owner of > name 'org.mate.SessionManager': no such name > > ** (mate-panel:9175): WARNING **: Could not connect to session manager: > Could not get owner of name 'org.mate.SessionManager': no such name > ^C > [btth@localhost ~]$t > > What is this "session manager"? Will it be there now? > > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mate goof? -- PS
On 08/26/2014 03:31 PM, Joshua Doll wrote: > > >What is this "session manager"? Will it be there now? > > It should work after you've installed the MATE Desktop group. > you will of course have to log out & back in.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Dicom image -
Is there a Linux application that will display a dicom image file? Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dicom image -
`sudo yum search DICOM` https://www.google.com/?#q=dicom+linux+viewer Sorry for being a smartass. Looks like aeskulap is what you're searching for. -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / - against HTML emails X - against proprietory attachments / \ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Ribbon_Campaign On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 03:59:46PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > Is there a Linux application that will display a dicom image file? > > Bob > > -- > http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD > box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org pgpe15DOpuOZk.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dicom image -
On 08/26/14 16:09, Nathan Schwarz wrote: `sudo yum search DICOM` https://www.google.com/?#q=dicom+linux+viewer Sorry for being a smartass. Looks like aeskulap is what you're searching for. No, I might deserve that. Yumex already found and installed it by the time I received your e-mail. Now I will have to find instructions on how to use it since it allows me to select a file but isn't displaying anything? Sorry for raising the noise level here. Thanks, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Any good guides for setting up a wireless dhcpd server?
Last time I setup dhcpd was with FC5. I know that has changed since then. What I am thinking is using mac addressing for assigning IP. This is not used as a gateway so masq, forward, and dns are not an issue. Tia Dave Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Blueman on F20?
I'm running F20 XFCE and the bluetooth app leaves a lot to be desired. I've been using Blueman before upgrading and it was great. Currently I'm using the KDE systray app (bluedevil?) There's no obvious way to install blueman; yum just says it was deprecated by bluez -- which is not true (it only is in the sense that the older blueman version is not compatible with bluez5) Does anyone know how to get blueman running (hopefully without having to compile it)? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Blueman on F20?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:15:07 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: > I'm running F20 XFCE and the bluetooth app leaves a lot to be desired. > I've been using Blueman before upgrading and it was great. Currently > I'm using the KDE systray app (bluedevil?) > > There's no obvious way to install blueman; yum just says it was > deprecated by bluez -- which is not true (it only is in the sense that > the older blueman version is not compatible with bluez5) Right, Fedora moved to bluez5, and blueman doesn't work with bluez5. > Does anyone know how to get blueman running (hopefully without having > to compile it)? You would not only have to build blueman, but bluez4 and rebuild all your applications with it and possibly port some of them back to 4 that dropped support for it. ;( Happily, I see there is development again on porting blueman to bluez5, so when/if that happens hopefully it will be shipped again. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: High CPU usage, load average and system temperature
Well just in case you get a hankering to get inside the box (yes always a risk): Google search string " thinkpad t420 manual pdf " Link chosen from results: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t420_t420i_hmm.pdf Result: very usable full manual on the box. Procedure for replacement of the CMOS battery (to them the "Backup Battery" p/n(s) 02K7078 04w1642) - it is under the keyboard http://www.amazon.com/IBM-02K7078-Backup-Battery-ThinkPad/dp/B000COO5VY http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-CMOS-battery/dp/B004MSS70Q/ref=pd_cp_pc_0 http://www.impactcomputers.com/04w1642.html(note: most likely accurate for your model but others likely to work) On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:14 AM, jd1008 wrote: > > On 08/25/2014 11:37 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:35 PM, jd1008 wrote: >> >>> perhaps you will have to accept the consequences :) :) >>> >> I think it's more than fan or GPU load issue. There are two reasons. >> Firstly, GPUs are not suddenly start eating CPU one day. System has >> been running fine for 3 years and months on exactly same setup. >> Secondly, if you look into this screenshot[1] I have just booted ON >> the laptop and it was already running at 84C. The only thing that was >> started was Chrome newtab. You see load is way to high but none of the >> processes are taking up too much resources. >> >> [1] http://i.imgur.com/0cBa9eg.png >> >> I would not put it past the google developers to have put in code > in their browser to do things you you are not expecting. > I do not use it. > Also, I asked friends using Apples and Chrome. Some say all is > well, other report different problems. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd never starts ntpd.service even though it is enabled
Bill Davidsen writes: Thomas Horsley wrote: Probably this: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/ 451332.html Thanks, this is undoubtedly why I have had to start (or restart) a bunch of stuff after the net-fs is working. My rc.local is basically a while net-not-up; do sleep 1 done stuff that failed Have to look and see how hard it is to go back to sysvinit, which is dumb but reliable within its limited capabilities. For me, wait-for-network.service appears to be working fairly reliably. Just in case anyone wants it, without having to dig through that sordid thread, save this in /etc/systemd/system, and don't forget to systemctl enable it. Of course, this will only work until systemd's dependency resolution logic changes again, with no advance notice: [Unit] Description=Wait for network ports to be initialized Before=network.target network-online.target After=network.service Wants=network.target [Service] Type=oneshot ExecStart=/usr/bin/true [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target pgpLM1Pbbxrjo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd never starts ntpd.service even though it is enabled
Also, for those that don't want to dig through the thread mentioned you can just read the bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1119787 kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
Hi again jd1008! A couple of things: 1. Be careful with the Dust-Off - especially with a new can. Good to get the tube so that it can be horizontal during the operation and do a short "liquid clearing" spray before you go inside the bay. The liquid form is hard on plastic I do believe. Be careful not to "tilt" a new can. 2. If you run lspci as root you will have access to the extended information (no "Capabilities: "). But be careful if you are ever tempted to use the "-x" option this way. Some segments of memory even accessed can change things in some boxes although it is rare anymore. 3. The first part of the journalctl -f results seem to be talking about problems with updates. You might try an "sudo yum update" in a terminal and watch what is going on. An update problem could "cause" a port problem by a bug fix not getting to you - and - the particular device in your box seems to be well talked about in the linux problem sphere. I will try to get some time to look at the rest of the "fail" problems in the journalctl -f results later today or tomorrow. Have a lot of fun!!! On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:16 AM, jd1008 wrote: > > On 08/26/2014 04:19 AM, Tod Merley wrote: > > fwiw > > Googling " 03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 > SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21) " > > nets a whole bunch of linux problems threads > > Another silly thought. Dust-Off the card reader bay. If the switch > position detection is optically based perhaps dust or dirt could become a > problem. > > Good idea! > Now that you mention it, I think that the 6 pack of pressurized > air cans I bought from costco at a great bargain a couple of months > ago will come in handy :) > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dicom image -
I had to go find the CD I had with dicom files on it. I was not able to get anything selecting the diacomdir file...I had to go into dicom dir and go down to where there were real files (select show all files) and then was able to display the image by selecting each image that was in several different dirs. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > On 08/26/14 16:09, Nathan Schwarz wrote: >> >> `sudo yum search DICOM` >> https://www.google.com/?#q=dicom+linux+viewer >> >> Sorry for being a smartass. >> Looks like aeskulap is what you're searching for. > > > No, I might deserve that. Yumex already found and installed it by the time I > received your e-mail. Now I will have to find instructions on how to use it > since it allows me to select a file but isn't displaying anything? > > Sorry for raising the noise level here. > > Thanks, > > > Bob > > -- > http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD > box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > It is a slider about 2mm or 2.5mm long and almost 1mm thick. > When in the up position (towards the corner which goes into the > controller) it is supposed to tell the controller write lock off > (disabled). But it is not working in my machine because some bloggers > say that the slider needs to protrude a little farther away from the > body of the sd card in order for the sensor to turn off (the > on-by-default) write lock. I can't remember if you've already made a comment about trying this; but have you tried putting a sticker around the card? -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.15.10-200.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Thu Aug 14 16:12:39 UTC 2014 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dicom image -
On 27.08.2014 01:33, Roger Heflin wrote: > I had to go find the CD I had with dicom files on it. > > I was not able to get anything selecting the diacomdir file...I had to > go into dicom dir and go down to where there were real files (select > show all files) and then was able to display the image by selecting > each image that was in several different dirs. wine -> RadiAnt -> DICOMDIR ~/.wine $ man 1 wine poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ext4 error messages
On Aug 23, 2014, at 3:38 PM, jd1008 wrote: > I have an external esata HD (the WD20NPVX) connected to the laptop > via an esata cable to the esata port of the laptop. > > I am getting ext4 errors for that device (/dev/sdb3 which is only mounted > partition on that drive), > and even getting ext4 errors on /dev/sda3 which is the root partition. > > Both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are brand new (less than a couple of months old). > > The error file is at > > https://www.sendspace.com/file/ym076o A more complete dmesg is best, it might reveal hardware or driver problems responsible for causing this issue in the first place. After the fact, you can get this from journalctl for all past boots with this imperfect command. journalctl -l -k | grep -i 'ata\|sdba\|sdb\|ext4' | grep -vi selinux Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ext4 error messages
On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:54 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > On 08/23/2014 04:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/23/2014 02:38 PM, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> I am getting ext4 errors for that device (/dev/sdb3 which is only >>> mounted partition on that drive), >>> and even getting ext4 errors on /dev/sda3 which is the root partition. >> >> I took a quick look at the errors and really don't like all those mentions >> of inodes that are doubly allocated. Have you tried using fsck on the >> partition? > So, it is not clear to me why there are all these errors, especially since > ext4 is supposed > to, by design, protect metadata's integrity in the face of such HW problems > (which I > am unsure what those HW problems are). Well, no filesystem is impervious to hardware problems. Even if you have metadata and journal checksumming enabled, which isn't a default still, there is no guarantee. Gist is, simple mount option -o journal_checksum for journal checksumming. For full metadata checksumming you need e2fsprogs 1.43. Current in F21 is 1.42.11-2, and it doesn't support mkfs.ext4 -O metadata_csum,64bit. https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Metadata_Checksums Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
Four observations: 1. The fsck.exfat command worked. So obviously the mkfs command and kernel aren't seeing the wrong state of the card's physical lock switch. It sounds like a weird bug that it then can't be mounted. Maybe try an explicit mount -t without -o rw. I'd think if it's a bug it'd have been found about an hour later though, pretty significant bug if it's a bug. 2. Aug 25 20:24:27 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmc0: new ultra high speed SDR50 SDHC card at address 0001 SDHC cards are supposed to be formatted FAT32. And SDXC is supposed to be formatted exFAT. That's per the SD Card specs anyway, which is how any camera supporting these types of cards should work. 3. Last, and actually most important, practically obsoleting the above two observations: this card is being used in a camera? The camera must be used to format it. That's what the camera manufacturer and the SD card manufacturer will tell you. The interoperability is *so bad* with SD cards, that they will both tell you that corruption and even camera malfunction is expected if you don't format the card in-camera. Further, it's well understood by pros and the amateur (the classic connotation of the word implies someone more serious about their interest than even a pro) that the camera image delete option shouldn't be used. Take your shots, fill up the card or get to a good break point to swap cards. When sucking the images off the card with a computer, suck all of them off, back them up, then go through and throw away the junk photos you don't want. Reformat the card in the camera. 4. Best quote about SD Cards ever: "You aren't storing your data, you're storing a probabilistic approximation of your data." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPEzLNh5YIo Quote is somewhere around 3m30s; including the point that flash memory is unreliable, and lots of other cool observations. I don't know why these things are called secure digital (SD) after watching this. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/26/2014 06:05 PM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, jd1008 wrote: It is a slider about 2mm or 2.5mm long and almost 1mm thick. When in the up position (towards the corner which goes into the controller) it is supposed to tell the controller write lock off (disabled). But it is not working in my machine because some bloggers say that the slider needs to protrude a little farther away from the body of the sd card in order for the sensor to turn off (the on-by-default) write lock. I can't remember if you've already made a comment about trying this; but have you tried putting a sticker around the card? I tried 1 layer of tape over the lock slider. More than 1 layer of tape makes the card too hard to insert into the slot. It really is a very tight does not seem to provide much play root. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ext4 error messages
On 08/26/2014 08:31 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 23, 2014, at 3:38 PM, jd1008 wrote: I have an external esata HD (the WD20NPVX) connected to the laptop via an esata cable to the esata port of the laptop. I am getting ext4 errors for that device (/dev/sdb3 which is only mounted partition on that drive), and even getting ext4 errors on /dev/sda3 which is the root partition. Both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are brand new (less than a couple of months old). The error file is at https://www.sendspace.com/file/ym076o A more complete dmesg is best, it might reveal hardware or driver problems responsible for causing this issue in the first place. After the fact, you can get this from journalctl for all past boots with this imperfect command. journalctl -l -k | grep -i 'ata\|sdba\|sdb\|ext4' | grep -vi selinux Chris Murphy Thanx Chris. The problems went away after I forced fsck on a followup boot. /sdb3/lost+found contained no recovered files after the fsck finished. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:15 PM, jd1008 wrote: > /dev/mmcblk What kernel version? There have been a pile of mmc related patches to the kernel the last few months with more on the way. Thing is, mkfs.exfat and your camera can obviously write to the card. So it's not write protected or that wouldn't work. Why it can't be mounted read/write sounds like some obscure exfat bug. What happens if you format it ext4 or btrfs? Does it mount read/write then? But no seriously, format it in your camera in the end if you're planning on actually using it with the camera to take photos. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ext4 error messages
On 08/26/2014 08:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:54 PM, jd1008 wrote: So, it is not clear to me why there are all these errors, especially since ext4 is supposed to, by design, protect metadata's integrity in the face of such HW problems (which I am unsure what those HW problems are). Well, no filesystem is impervious to hardware problems. Even if you have metadata and journal checksumming enabled, which isn't a default still, there is no guarantee. Gist is, simple mount option -o journal_checksum for journal checksumming. For full metadata checksumming you need e2fsprogs 1.43. Current in F21 is 1.42.11-2, and it doesn't support mkfs.ext4 -O metadata_csum,64bit. https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Metadata_Checksums Chris Murphy Well, that's a shame! At least after I had done the fsck, I lost no files as lost+found was empty. But that does not mean I did not lose file data in dirty buffers. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ext4 error messages
On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:24 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > On 08/26/2014 08:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:54 PM, jd1008 wrote: >> >>> So, it is not clear to me why there are all these errors, especially since >>> ext4 is supposed >>> to, by design, protect metadata's integrity in the face of such HW problems >>> (which I >>> am unsure what those HW problems are). >> Well, no filesystem is impervious to hardware problems. Even if you have >> metadata and journal checksumming enabled, which isn't a default still, >> there is no guarantee. >> >> Gist is, simple mount option -o journal_checksum for journal checksumming. >> For full metadata checksumming you need e2fsprogs 1.43. Current in F21 is >> 1.42.11-2, and it doesn't support mkfs.ext4 -O metadata_csum,64bit. >> >> https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Metadata_Checksums >> >> >> Chris Murphy > Well, that's a shame! > At least after I had done the fsck, I lost no files as lost+found was empty. > But that does not mean I did not lose file data in dirty buffers. Well, files can be lost but not found, in which case they won't be in lost+found. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/26/2014 09:05 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Four observations: 1. The fsck.exfat command worked. So obviously the mkfs command and kernel aren't seeing the wrong state of the card's physical lock switch. It sounds like a weird bug that it then can't be mounted. Maybe try an explicit mount -t without -o rw. I'd think if it's a bug it'd have been found about an hour later though, pretty significant bug if it's a bug. # mount -t exfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mmcblk0p1 FUSE exfat 1.0.1 WARN: `/dev/mmcblk0p1' is write-protected, mounting read-only. 2. Aug 25 20:24:27 localhost.localdomain kernel: mmc0: new ultra high speed SDR50 SDHC card at address 0001 SDHC cards are supposed to be formatted FAT32. And SDXC is supposed to be formatted exFAT. That's per the SD Card specs anyway, which is how any camera supporting these types of cards should work. I had deliberately formatted it as exfat in windows because I was loaning it to a friend so he could fill it for me with files on his apple laptop, with such incredibly long file names, that vfat could not accommodate them, and that caused some files in which the first n bytes of the name were the same, so file 2 for example over-wrote file1. Thus formatting it as exfat solved that problem and I was able to receive those files. 3. Last, and actually most important, practically obsoleting the above two observations: this card is being used in a camera? The camera must be used to format it. That's what the camera manufacturer and the SD card manufacturer will tell you. The interoperability is *so bad* with SD cards, that they will both tell you that corruption and even camera malfunction is expected if you don't format the card in-camera. Further, it's well understood by pros and the amateur (the classic connotation of the word implies someone more serious about their interest than even a pro) that the camera image delete option shouldn't be used. Take your shots, fill up the card or get to a good break point to swap cards. When sucking the images off the card with a computer, suck all of them off, back them up, then go through and throw away the junk photos you don't want. Reformat the card in the camera. Nop! It has never seen a camera :) 4. Best quote about SD Cards ever: "You aren't storing your data, you're storing a probabilistic approximation of your data." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPEzLNh5YIo Quote is somewhere around 3m30s; including the point that flash memory is unreliable, and lots of other cool observations. I don't know why these things are called secure digital (SD) after watching this. Good observation. They say that nand flash has a longer life span as it can handle higher number of writes per block before reaching 50/50 probability :) As far as "secure" , I can say with a great degree of certitude that when it comes to computer data, nothing is secure nor private if you are on the internet, regardless of which OS you use. Even if you use cyphered email (between individuals that share each other's publik keys). In fact, publikly available sypher systems are so readily breakable by the nsa, it's a joke to believe that "encyphering data with freely available cypher systems and then xmitting them over the internet" is secure. After all, if it were not so, these cypher systems would not be freely publicly available. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: exfat on SD card getting mounted read-only
On 08/26/2014 09:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:15 PM, jd1008 wrote: /dev/mmcblk What kernel version? There have been a pile of mmc related patches to the kernel the last few months with more on the way. Thing is, mkfs.exfat and your camera can obviously write to the card. So it's not write protected or that wouldn't work. Why it can't be mounted read/write sounds like some obscure exfat bug. What happens if you format it ext4 or btrfs? Does it mount read/write then? But no seriously, format it in your camera in the end if you're planning on actually using it with the camera to take photos. Chris Murphy kernel-3.15.10-200.fc20.x86_64 At this time I am not inclined to back it up to HD and reformat it as ext4 or btrfs. But will do as soon as I have some bandwidth. Thanx Chris!! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
rails console: Could not find 'rack'
Hi, list! The system is F20. I upgraded it from F17 through F18 a few days ago. Everything works perfect except that neither rails console nor rails server won't start. Typing rails console in the terminal leads to the following result: /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/dependency.rb:298:in `to_specs': Could not find 'rack' (~> 1.2.1) - did find: [rack-1.5.2,rack-1.4.0] (Gem::LoadError) from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1268:in `block in activate_dependencies' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1257:in `each' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1257:in `activate_dependencies' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1239:in `activate' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1271:in `block in activate_dependencies' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1257:in `each' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1257:in `activate_dependencies' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/specification.rb:1239:in `activate' from /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_gem.rb:48:in `gem' from /usr/local/bin/rails:22:in `' I've tried every possible solution I saw on the web but with no luck. Any thoughts? P.S. gem list reveals rack available: rack (1.5.2, 1.4.0) rack-accept (0.4.3) rack-cache (1.2) rack-mount (0.8.3, 0.7.1) rack-protection (1.5.0) rack-restful_submit (1.2.2) rack-ssl (1.3.2) rack-test (0.6.2, 0.6.0 TIA -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: https://linuxcounter.net/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
