[Bug 218126] Re: xen guest kernel bug: 'kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'

2008-05-18 Thread mkl
Jiři nemas dovod takto skaredo penit a utri si penu z ust. :)
Nasraty je kazdy. Aj ja, co som to reportoval, pozri vyssie.

I understand now the policy of Canonical is against the best interests of 
community.
The kernel freeze should not be applicable to such grevious bugs.

I suspect the Canonical plays a dishonest game with the users.  
They intentionally don't fix some grevious bugs for server use so 
the companies have to buy the support from them.

Shame on Canonical

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[Bug 218126] [NEW] xen guest kernel bug: 'kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'

2008-04-16 Thread mkl
Public bug reported:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# xm create -c /etc/xen/pps-x12
Using config file "/etc/xen/pps-x12".
Started domain pps-x12
[0.00] Linux version 2.6.24-16-xen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 
4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 14:35:03 UTC 2008 (Ubuntu 
2.6.24-4.6-generic)
[0.00] Command line:  root=/dev/sda1 ro console=/dev/xvc0
[0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[0.00]  Xen:  - 1080 (usable)
[0.00] end_pfn_map = 67584
[2311650.315719] Zone PFN ranges:
[2311650.315721]   DMA 0 -> 4096
[2311650.315724]   DMA324096 ->  1048576
[2311650.315725]   Normal1048576 ->  1048576
[2311650.315727] Movable zone start PFN for each node
[2311650.315728] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
[2311650.315730] 0:0 ->67584
[2311650.326160] No mptable found.
[2311650.326947] PERCPU: Allocating 22368 bytes of per cpu data
[2311650.326972] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total 
pages: 0
[2311650.326977] Kernel command line:  root=/dev/sda1 ro console=/dev/xvc0
[2311650.327623] Initializing CPU#0
[2311650.327799] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 16384 bytes)
[2311650.327835] Xen reported: 1992.446 MHz processor.
[0.026270] console [xvc-1] enabled
[0.026309] Console: colour dummy device 80x25
[0.026603] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
[0.026842] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
[0.026906] Software IO TLB disabled
[0.029575] Memory: 232180k/270336k available (2530k kernel code, 29616k 
reserved, 1329k data, 220k init)
[0.092349] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3988.62 
BogoMIPS (lpj=7977259)
[0.092429] Security Framework initialized
[0.092441] SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
[0.092451] AppArmor: AppArmor initialized
[0.092456] Failure registering capabilities with primary security module.
[0.092483] Mount-cache hash table entries: 256
[0.092653] CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
[0.092657] CPU: L2 Cache: 1024K (64 bytes/line)
[0.092677] SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
[0.093284] Freeing SMP alternatives: 23k freed
[0.093435] Early unpacking initramfs... done
[0.112929] Brought up 1 CPUs
[0.113630] net_namespace: 120 bytes
[0.113635] failed to set up cpufreq notifier
[0.132384] Time: 165:165:165  Date: 165/165/65
[0.132421] NET: Registered protocol family 16
[0.133845] Brought up 1 CPUs
[0.133863] PCI: Fatal: No config space access function found
[0.133866] PCI: setting up Xen PCI frontend stub
[0.134578] ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
[0.134584] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
[0.134622] pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled
[0.135046] xen_mem: Initialising balloon driver.
[0.136382] Setting mem allocation to 262144 kiB
[0.136682] PCI: System does not support PCI
[0.136687] PCI: System does not support PCI
[0.138848] NET: Registered protocol family 8
[0.138853] NET: Registered protocol family 20
[0.138936] AppArmor: AppArmor Filesystem Enabled
[0.139338] NET: Registered protocol family 2
[0.139351] Time: xen clocksource has been installed.
[0.170880] IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
[0.171086] TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 
bytes)
[0.171256] TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
[0.171426] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384)
[0.171432] TCP reno registered
[0.182943] checking if image is initramfs... it is
[0.203821] Freeing initrd memory: 18972k freed
[0.217541] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
[0.217565] audit(1208340133.904:1): initialized
[0.217759] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
[0.217786] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 512 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
[0.217873] io scheduler noop registered
[0.217877] io scheduler anticipatory registered
[0.217879] io scheduler deadline registered
[0.217887] io scheduler cfq registered (default)
[0.218105] Xen virtual console successfully installed as xvc0
[0.218158] Event-channel device installed.
[0.226820] Successfully initialized TPM backend driver.
[0.237186] netfront: Initialising virtual ethernet driver.
[0.238033] xen-vbd: registered block device major 8
[0.267152] rtc: IRQ 8 is not free.
[0.267256] Linux agpgart interface v0.102
[0.267852] RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 65536K size 1024 
blocksize
[0.267934] input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as 
/devices/virtual/input/input0
[0.268076] PNP: No PS/2 controller found. Probing ports directly.
[0.268920] i8042.c: No controller found.
[0.274923] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[0.274961] cpuidle: using governor ladder
[0.275048] NET: Registered protocol 

Re: [Bug 218126] Re: xen guest kernel bug: 'kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'

2008-04-18 Thread mkl
Unfortunately I don't have the opportunity to test the fixed packages
in the same scenario , because I removed my SL5.1 host and installed
ubuntu as the host OS as well.


2008/4/18, HIRANO Takahito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sorry, again.
>  Please use THIS one.
>
>  The compiled package is at:
>  
> http://www.il.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~hiranotaka/linux-image-2.6.24-16-xen_2.6.24-16.30zng1_amd64.deb
>  
> http://www.il.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~hiranotaka/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-xen_2.6.24-16.30zng1_amd64.deb
>
>
>  ** Attachment added: "patch for the netfront driver"
>
>http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13564638/004-xen-netfront-fix.patch
>
>
>  --
>  xen guest  kernel bug:  'kernel BUG at 
> /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'
>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218126
>  You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>  of the bug.
>
>
> Status in Source Package "linux" in Ubuntu: New
>
>
>  Bug description:
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# xm create -c /etc/xen/pps-x12
>  Using config file "/etc/xen/pps-x12".
>  Started domain pps-x12
>  [0.00] Linux version 2.6.24-16-xen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 
> 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 14:35:03 UTC 2008 (Ubuntu 
> 2.6.24-4.6-generic)
>  [0.00] Command line:  root=/dev/sda1 ro console=/dev/xvc0
>  [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
>  [0.00]  Xen:  - 1080 (usable)
>  [0.00] end_pfn_map = 67584
>  [2311650.315719] Zone PFN ranges:
>  [2311650.315721]   DMA 0 -> 4096
>  [2311650.315724]   DMA324096 ->  1048576
>  [2311650.315725]   Normal1048576 ->  1048576
>  [2311650.315727] Movable zone start PFN for each node
>  [2311650.315728] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
>  [2311650.315730] 0:0 ->67584
>  [2311650.326160] No mptable found.
>  [2311650.326947] PERCPU: Allocating 22368 bytes of per cpu data
>  [2311650.326972] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  
> Total pages: 0
>  [2311650.326977] Kernel command line:  root=/dev/sda1 ro console=/dev/xvc0
>  [2311650.327623] Initializing CPU#0
>  [2311650.327799] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 16384 bytes)
>  [2311650.327835] Xen reported: 1992.446 MHz processor.
>  [0.026270] console [xvc-1] enabled
>  [0.026309] Console: colour dummy device 80x25
>  [0.026603] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 
> bytes)
>  [0.026842] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
>  [0.026906] Software IO TLB disabled
>  [0.029575] Memory: 232180k/270336k available (2530k kernel code, 29616k 
> reserved, 1329k data, 220k init)
>  [0.092349] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3988.62 
> BogoMIPS (lpj=7977259)
>  [0.092429] Security Framework initialized
>  [0.092441] SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
>  [0.092451] AppArmor: AppArmor initialized
>  [0.092456] Failure registering capabilities with primary security module.
>  [0.092483] Mount-cache hash table entries: 256
>  [0.092653] CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 
> bytes/line)
>  [0.092657] CPU: L2 Cache: 1024K (64 bytes/line)
>  [0.092677] SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
>  [0.093284] Freeing SMP alternatives: 23k freed
>  [0.093435] Early unpacking initramfs... done
>  [0.112929] Brought up 1 CPUs
>  [0.113630] net_namespace: 120 bytes
>  [0.113635] failed to set up cpufreq notifier
>  [0.132384] Time: 165:165:165  Date: 165/165/65
>  [0.132421] NET: Registered protocol family 16
>  [0.133845] Brought up 1 CPUs
>  [0.133863] PCI: Fatal: No config space access function found
>  [0.133866] PCI: setting up Xen PCI frontend stub
>  [0.134578] ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
>  [0.134584] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
>  [0.134622] pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled
>  [0.135046] xen_mem: Initialising balloon driver.
>  [0.136382] Setting mem allocation to 262144 kiB
>  [0.136682] PCI: System does not support PCI
>  [0.136687] PCI: System does not support PCI
>  [0.138848] NET: Registered protocol family 8
>  [0.138853] NET: Registered protocol family 20
>  [0.138936] AppArmor: AppArmor Filesystem Enabled
>  [0.139338] NET: Registered protocol family 2
>  [0.139351] Time: xen clocksource has been installed.
>  [0.170880] IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 
> bytes)
>  [0.171086] TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 
> bytes)
>  [0.171256] TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
>  [0.171426] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384)
>  [0.171432] TCP reno registered
>  [0.182943] checking if image is initramfs... it is
>  [0.203821] Freeing initrd memory: 18972k freed
>  [0.217541] audit: initializing netlink s

Re: [Bug 218126] Re: xen guest kernel bug: 'kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'

2008-04-18 Thread mkl
Will be the fix also in the upstream kernel www.kernel.org and in
debian?


2008/4/18, HIRANO Takahito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sorry, again.
>  Please use THIS one.
>
>  The compiled package is at:
>  
> http://www.il.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~hiranotaka/linux-image-2.6.24-16-xen_2.6.24-16.30zng1_amd64.deb
>  
> http://www.il.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~hiranotaka/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-xen_2.6.24-16.30zng1_amd64.deb
>
>
>  ** Attachment added: "patch for the netfront driver"
>
>http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13564638/004-xen-netfront-fix.patch
>
>
>  --
>  xen guest  kernel bug:  'kernel BUG at 
> /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'
>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/218126
>  You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>  of the bug.
>
>
> Status in Source Package "linux" in Ubuntu: New
>
>
>  Bug description:
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# xm create -c /etc/xen/pps-x12
>  Using config file "/etc/xen/pps-x12".
>  Started domain pps-x12
>  [0.00] Linux version 2.6.24-16-xen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 
> 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 14:35:03 UTC 2008 (Ubuntu 
> 2.6.24-4.6-generic)
>  [0.00] Command line:  root=/dev/sda1 ro console=/dev/xvc0
>  [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
>  [0.00]  Xen:  - 1080 (usable)
>  [0.00] end_pfn_map = 67584
>  [2311650.315719] Zone PFN ranges:
>  [2311650.315721]   DMA 0 -> 4096
>  [2311650.315724]   DMA324096 ->  1048576
>  [2311650.315725]   Normal1048576 ->  1048576
>  [2311650.315727] Movable zone start PFN for each node
>  [2311650.315728] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
>  [2311650.315730] 0:0 ->67584
>  [2311650.326160] No mptable found.
>  [2311650.326947] PERCPU: Allocating 22368 bytes of per cpu data
>  [2311650.326972] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  
> Total pages: 0
>  [2311650.326977] Kernel command line:  root=/dev/sda1 ro console=/dev/xvc0
>  [2311650.327623] Initializing CPU#0
>  [2311650.327799] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 16384 bytes)
>  [2311650.327835] Xen reported: 1992.446 MHz processor.
>  [0.026270] console [xvc-1] enabled
>  [0.026309] Console: colour dummy device 80x25
>  [0.026603] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 
> bytes)
>  [0.026842] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
>  [0.026906] Software IO TLB disabled
>  [0.029575] Memory: 232180k/270336k available (2530k kernel code, 29616k 
> reserved, 1329k data, 220k init)
>  [0.092349] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3988.62 
> BogoMIPS (lpj=7977259)
>  [0.092429] Security Framework initialized
>  [0.092441] SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
>  [0.092451] AppArmor: AppArmor initialized
>  [0.092456] Failure registering capabilities with primary security module.
>  [0.092483] Mount-cache hash table entries: 256
>  [0.092653] CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 
> bytes/line)
>  [0.092657] CPU: L2 Cache: 1024K (64 bytes/line)
>  [0.092677] SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
>  [0.093284] Freeing SMP alternatives: 23k freed
>  [0.093435] Early unpacking initramfs... done
>  [0.112929] Brought up 1 CPUs
>  [0.113630] net_namespace: 120 bytes
>  [0.113635] failed to set up cpufreq notifier
>  [0.132384] Time: 165:165:165  Date: 165/165/65
>  [0.132421] NET: Registered protocol family 16
>  [0.133845] Brought up 1 CPUs
>  [0.133863] PCI: Fatal: No config space access function found
>  [0.133866] PCI: setting up Xen PCI frontend stub
>  [0.134578] ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
>  [0.134584] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
>  [0.134622] pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled
>  [0.135046] xen_mem: Initialising balloon driver.
>  [0.136382] Setting mem allocation to 262144 kiB
>  [0.136682] PCI: System does not support PCI
>  [0.136687] PCI: System does not support PCI
>  [0.138848] NET: Registered protocol family 8
>  [0.138853] NET: Registered protocol family 20
>  [0.138936] AppArmor: AppArmor Filesystem Enabled
>  [0.139338] NET: Registered protocol family 2
>  [0.139351] Time: xen clocksource has been installed.
>  [0.170880] IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 
> bytes)
>  [0.171086] TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 
> bytes)
>  [0.171256] TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
>  [0.171426] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384)
>  [0.171432] TCP reno registered
>  [0.182943] checking if image is initramfs... it is
>  [0.203821] Freeing initrd memory: 18972k freed
>  [0.217541] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
>  [0.217565] audit(1208340133.904:1): initialized
>  [0.217759] VFS: D

[Bug 218126] Re: xen guest kernel bug: 'kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'

2008-04-20 Thread mkl
I can now confirm that your packages helped me to get the domU network working.
It is interesting to know, that testing ubuntu domU with other DISTRO (SL5.1) 
as host OS can reveal the problem more precisely 
and fix the problem more quickly then testing with ubuntu.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => HIRANO Takahito (hiranotaka)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

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Re: [Bug 222913] Re: misleading LTS tag for ubuntu 8.04 on main site www.ubuntu.com

2008-04-30 Thread mkl
I will not push further the issue , but you are missing my point
and most likely you are not the proper person to answer.

Point is:
ubuntu product plus kde packages is de jure (legally)  still ubuntu
product (and hence gets LTS support.), but de facto it is kubuntu (and
no ubuntu user has reason to start looking on kubuntu site.)

The kubuntu product may be different, but they have the same KDE packages.
Both products are supported by canonical, the first one is supported
for LTS the other not for LTS just because of KDE.

Is it clear now?

I really don't understand why the same packages are supported by the
same company for 3 years LTS
if installed within the ubuntu, but only for 18 months if installed
within the kubuntu.

Am I missing something?
Tell me where I am wrong, if you can't please reopen the bug.


2008/4/30 Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> mkl - I've read your further comments carefully but still don't consider
>  this to be a valid bug. The ubuntu website deals with Ubuntu as a
>  product, and Kubuntu falls outside that product (hence it has its own
>  website). If a user installs Kubuntu on an existing Ubuntu installation,
>  it's reasonable to expect them to look at the Kubuntu website and that
>  the long term support guarantee is no longer understood as applying to
>  that product. I'm closing the bug.
>
>  ** Changed in: ubuntu
>Status: New => Invalid
>
>
>  --
>  misleading LTS tag for ubuntu 8.04 on  main site www.ubuntu.com
>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/222913
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>
>
> Status in Ubuntu Website Product: New
>  Status in Ubuntu: Invalid
>
>
>
>  Bug description:
>  Ubuntu 8.04 is tagged for Long Term Support (LTS)
>  Kubuntu 8.04 is not .
>  Since both share the same repository and ubuntu can be easily turn into 
> kubuntu and other way around
>  the customers may be confused.
>  Please add star at the LTS (*) and explain the LTS does not apply to 
> kde*.deb packages.
>  The same way, explain the custumers may get LTS support in kubuntu for other 
> packages except the kde*.deb
>
>  What is the legal status of ubuntu. If a custumer buys the commercial 
> support from Canonical for ubuntu 8.04 and removes gnome and installs KDE? Is 
> the support going for 36 months or 18 months?
>
>  Please be honest, don't lay, cheat and mislead your customers. They don't 
> deserve it.
>

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[Bug 218126] Re: xen guest kernel bug: 'kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/drivers/xen/netfront/netfront.c:785'

2008-04-24 Thread mkl
I cannot believe it.
The ubuntu is released and the bug is still there.
This bug is critical for xen users. That is also what hirano said in his first 
response.
It is not even in the release notes.
Shame on Canonical.

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[Bug 222913] [NEW] misleading LTS tag for ubuntu 8.04 on main site www.ubuntu.com

2008-04-26 Thread mkl
Public bug reported:

Ubuntu 8.04 is tagged for Long Term Support (LTS)
Kubuntu 8.04 is not . 
Since both share the same repository and ubuntu can be easily turn into kubuntu 
and other way around
the customers may be confused.
Please add star at the LTS (*) and explain the LTS does not apply to kde*.deb 
packages.
The same way, explain the custumers may get LTS support in kubuntu for other 
packages except the kde*.deb

What is the legal status of ubuntu. If a custumer buys the commercial
support from Canonical for ubuntu 8.04 and removes gnome and installs
KDE? Is the support going for 36 months or 18 months?

Please be honest, don't lay, cheat and mislead your customers. They
don't deserve it.

** Affects: ubuntu
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 222913] Re: misleading LTS tag for ubuntu 8.04 on main site www.ubuntu.com

2008-04-27 Thread mkl

Of course I disaggree. The answer is not satisfactory. 

Does Canonical support only the default installation or all packages in their 
repository the user can possibly install additionally?  
If not stated explicitly the kde related packages are supported the same way 
like other ubuntu packages.
If I do this something like this in ubuntu:
apt-get install  -y kde kdm 
/etc/init.d/kdm start
I have ubuntu + KDE, all from ubuntu repository.   How long period is such 
installation supported by security patches and other bug fixes?
3 years or 18 months?


** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: Invalid => New

** Changed in: ubuntu-website
   Status: Invalid => New

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[Bug 222913] Re: misleading LTS tag for ubuntu 8.04 on main site www.ubuntu.com

2008-04-30 Thread mkl
Trollord

>From your answer I don't think you are trustworthy representative of ubuntu.
You still avoided to say explicitly what I am asking for.  18 months of 36 
months are supported the kde related packages in ubuntu.

How long is your "for the whole time as well"
If that is 36 month as other ubuntu packages and kubuntu and ubuntu uses the 
same repository even (if they have different website) then  why kubuntu is not 
supported for 36 months. You cannot be serious about
"installer kludges of Kubuntu for the LTS months..." If kubuntu has no LTS tag 
it is not because of installer (which is the same as for ubuntu), but it is 
because of the kde itself.


The only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is what graphic desktop system 
is installed by default after installation.
kubuntu is  ubuntu  + kde.
It is something like kde remix of ubuntu.

I don't think you have enough information
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002066.html
I am talking about kde3.5.9, which you can install in ubuntu as well.
I don't care about kde4 for now.

This is the proper place to clarifiy that.
I still think the LTS tag on ubuntu website is still misleading, providing the 
kde is not supported for LTS, which I am still in doubt it is.



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[Bug 381777] Re: Startup/boot freezes after Grub menu

2009-11-29 Thread MKL
same here with ubuntu 9.10 kernel 2.6.31-15-server.
motherboard: ASUS P5E
Hard drives: 2*160 SATA RAID, SATA 1To and SATA2 500 Go
All impacted by this feature ...but not all time

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