[techtalk] Re: talk on RedHat 6.2
m20bi wrote: > Removed d from inetd.conf file. Restarted inet daemon with kill SIGHUP > . Logged on as guest on tty2 and tty3. Issued 'talk guest > tty2' from tty3. Talk stalled with 'checking for invitation on caller's > machine.' Got out of talk with Ctrl-C and then tried 'talk guest tty3' from > tty2. Same error. Nothing shows up in the /var/log/messages file. > Decided to shutdown and start from scratch. Same results. You're right, that -should- work. > Any suggestions? I have vague memories of having a LOT of trouble with talk if the hostname doesn't backwards-resolve properly. Or something weird like that. It was to do with hostnames. Haven't used talk for ages and my memory deceives me. Sorry. Try 'talk guest@localhost' or somesuch? bekj (am I supposed to post an intro?) -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly. : -- R Kennedy ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: mutt?
sara ruohotie wrote: > okay, so i was brave enough to change from the old, comfy, easy pine, > which i knew like my own pockets into scary, strange, weird mutt (but > they say it's better!). so, is anyone like real familiar with mutt? Congrats on changing :) Once you get the hang of Mutt I'm sure you'll like it better. > my problem is that i'm using mutt on several machines and on my own > puter (freebsd 4.0) it's working very very nicely. on this particural > puter it says 'color -- command not known' when i try to give it some > specifications on which colors to use. It's possible to compile Mutt with or without support for colours, for example if I do 'mutt -v', the options it reports are: Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP +BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" Spot the +HAVE_COLOR? Try doing 'mutt -v' on the machine where colour isn't working for you and I'll bet it's compiled without colour support. Unfortunately your options (assuming I'm right!) are only to compile your own local copy of Mutt or to get the sysadmin to recompile the system one. Good luck. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : So whatever else has happened, I am figgerin this: I can always : look back and say, at least I ain't led no hum-drum life. : -- Winston Groom, Forest Gump ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: mutt?
sara ruohotie wrote: > but anyway, i'll see if i can make the sysadmin to rebuilt mutt. and > meanwhile i'll be looking for an option on how to make mutt put > something else than '+' on a continued line. but anyway, thank you Oh, when you figure that one out will you tell me? It drives me nuts. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: laptop on linux
Anmol Khirbat wrote: > I'm thinking about buying a laptop for running linux. I've been surfing > the net and researching for three days now but I am as confused as ever. Have you checked out the Laptop HOWTO? If not, wander over to (ummm ... memory-check) linuxdoc.org I think, and search for it. Or look in /usr/doc/HOWTO for something like Laptop-HOWTO.gz if you already have a Linux install. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Two things fill the mind with ever-increasing wonder and awe, : the more often and the more intensely the mind of thought is : drawn to them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law : within me. -- Immanuel Kant ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Toshiba Sattelite Mouse
I'm setting up an old (well, new for me :)) Toshiba Sattelite T2110CS with Debian Linux and having some trouble with getting the mouse to work under gpm. It's one of those annoying little buttons in the middle of the keyboard type mice, but I can't find info anywhere on the web about what type it is or what port it's located on. I'm reasonably familiar with gpm and have played around with different options and ports but to no avail. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Linux. Where do you want to go tomorrow? ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: Toshiba Sattelite Mouse
Tricia Bowen wrote: > accupoint emulates a ps/2 mouse, with protocol->"ps/2" and device -> > "/dev/psaux". hope that helps. Bingo, works perfectly. thanks for all the people that answered :) bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : If you are trying to do something you value, it is important to : surround yourself with people who unequivocally support your : work. -- Clarissa Pinkola Estes ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: Help! Au secour! Mayday!
Conor Daly wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 12:20:38PM +0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, > antonxie thought: > > Kath, > > my boss has been asking me to set upa firewall for two weeks > > and he hasn't seen a firewall going > Go to > www.linuxfirewalltools.com > and build yourself an ipchains ruleset. Just following up old email as I try to get IP Masq stuff working. That host doesn't exist, do you have an updated URL for it by any chance? bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : I found that the Rubiks cube and Linux are alike. Looks real : confusing until you read the right book. :-) : -- comp.os.linus.misc ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: OpenBSD vs. Debian 2.2
curious wrote: > Jumping from Debian to OpenBSD requires a little learning curve since > devices/default shells and lots of commands behave diffrently and use > diffrent switches... Do you happen to know of a resource along the lines of "BSD for Linux Users"? I'd class myself as an experienced used, having had extensive experience with several different distributions (currently using Debian) but as I want to be a Sysadmin one day I recognize that I need to learn a few different Unices. I'm planning on installing FreeBSD on a spare computer I have here and networking it to my existing ones, hopefully to use it as a gateway server when I get as far as grokking NAT etc. I have a book "The Comprete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey which is pretty good but obviously oriented at somebody who hasn't used Unix before. It's been helpful and I have read through it, but something that covered -just- the differences would be even better! bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Dare to dream, hope, believe, seek, feel, find, and love. : -- Mike Hull ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: [issues] Issues FAQ
Jenn Vesperman wrote: >Have your own computers. Have your own computer desks. Build a LAN, >know how to maintain it, and let the router split the packets. Have a >router - use the 486 you bought from your cousin's friend who's had it >on a shelf for years. Keep the MTU reasonably down, so that if your >partner's doing a large download your chat packets go out promptly >anyway. Learn what MTU means, and how to set it. Okay, time to learn. What's a MTU (max trasfer unit - wild guess!) and how do I set it and what does it do? bekj -- : Bekj - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : There is never no hope left. : -- Louis Wu, 'The Ringworld Engineers' ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] "MS Office" type software
I need to produce a quite fancy word-processed document, with included picture(s) (Jpeg or Gif or something, preferaly), table of contents, footnotes, page numbers, headings, etc. Hopefully also #include'd files (eg chapter1.doc, chapter2.doc and book.doc which includes all the chapters and changes if I change chapter1.doc) It probably eventually needs to come out in MS Word format. But I'm trying to avoid actually MAKING it in MS Word. Hopefully I can avoid booting into Windows at all. I hate it. It drives me nuts. I don't suppose I can do it in LaTeX and convert it across later? I don't know of any conversion software that'll take complex LaTeX and convert it to MS Word or RTF or anything word'll read. How does the Office-type software for Linux go at this sort of a job? I've never used any of it before ... never needed it. .. I always mark stuff up in HTML or in LaTeX. *sigh* a whiney bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : The only disadvantage I see is that it would force everyone to : get Perl. Horrors. :-) -- Larry Wall ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: "MS Office" type software
Lilly S. wrote: > How about using something like WordPerfect and then saving it as MSWord > format? Would that work? Is WP available for Linux? Is it free? bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : A 'Friend' is someone I'd die for. A 'Love' is someone I *Live* : for. -- Jim Baranski ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)
Jenn Vesperman wrote: > Mary Gardiner wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 09:29:04AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > As for release 1.0: when there's a complete, bugtested set of features > > > which provide at least a minimum functionality for the type of program. > > > (Not an alpha or a beta, but fully bugtested) > > > IMO. YMMV. > > Bugtested to what extent though, is the question: free of what are called > > "showstoppers" in linux kernel? free of all known bugs? > I'd say free of all known bugs - who would willingly, knowingly, release > buggy software as anything other than an alpha or a beta release? Microso ... > (ok, ok. What /sane/ entity?) Oh. Oops. bekj -- : Bekj - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Do what others say you cannot do, and you will never pay : attention to their limitations again. -- R Cook ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Printer problemss
My printer - a DJ500 - used to work perfectly. I don't print very often, so I'm not sure -exactly- when it stopped working, but it was probably when I upgraded the kernel from 2.2.14 to 2.2.17. I can't see anything in the changes file that is relavant though. I have the right modules loaded: [root@mycroft] /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc# lsmod Module Size Used by lp 4580 1 parport_pc 7300 1 (autoclean) parport 7312 1 [lp parport_pc] I'm not entirely sure if it's supposed to be on lp1 or lp0, I think it's lp0 (I have 2 parallel ports). BUt when I try catting stuff out the ports, I get: [root@mycroft] ~gossamer# cat xmas_list >> /dev/lp0 (just hangs until I press ^C) or [root@mycroft] ~gossamer# cat xmas_list >> /dev/lp1 zsh: no such device or address: /dev/lp1 I assume from this that it's lp0. In neither case do the data lights on the printer flash or anything like that, and nothing is printed. What'd I do? bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving : capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good : reason for leaving capabilities out of Perl. -- Larry Wall ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Soundcard/DMA Timeout
Trying to get my $*^%&$ PnP soundcard to work. It's a CMI8330 and I've been following the stuff in the documentation and it's ALMOST working. I get sound but all choppy and soft. Error when I try to cat something to /dev/dsp: Dec 7 14:15:27 mycroft kernel: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? I'm 99% sure it's -not- an IRQ conflict, /proc/interrupts says [root@mycroft] /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 10543508 XT-PIC timer 1: 1081 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3: 8 XT-PIC serial 7: 0 XT-PIC MSS audio codec 9: 211016 XT-PIC eth0 13: 0 XT-PIC fpu 14: 634770 XT-PIC ide0 15: 7 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 And the only IRQs mentioned in the /etc/isapnp.conf are 5, 7 and 11. They all look free. How would I go about debugging this? I don't even know where to LOOK. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Rotary Debugger: Essential equipment for those late-night or : early-morning debugging sessions. Mainly used as sustenance for : the hacker. Comes in many decorator colors, such as Sausage, : Pepperoni, and Garbage. -- The Jargon File ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: Soundcard/DMA Timeout
Just in case anybody wondered what happened, it turned out that IRQ7 was dickey. When I changed the config file to config it to IRQ 11 it works like a charm. Silly PC hardware **grumblegrumble** bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : When something within us is disowned, that which is disowned : wreaks havoc. : -- Ralph Blum and Susan Loughan, 'The Healing Runes' ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: Soundcard/DMA Timeout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Just in case anybody wondered what happened, it turned out that > > IRQ7 was dickey. When I changed the config file to config it to > > IRQ 11 it works like a charm. > This isn't terribly surprising. IRQ7 is normally reserved for the first > parallel port. (LPT1: in DOS/Windows terms.) I have never figured out why > so many sound cards set that interrupt for their default, since it really > doesn't work well if you use your parallel port for little things like, > say... printing. Well, there's no printer hooked up to that machine and the parallel port drivers weren't loaded, so it SHOULDN'T have conflicted. But (8shrug* it works now. I hate hardware and low-level OS stuff. I'm a toolsmith Perl monkey. Not a flaming OS/hardware tech! That's what my friends are for! bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : A book is like a garden carried in the pocket. : -- Chinese Proverb ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Re: Soundcard/DMA Timeout
Andrew Plumb wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Bek Oberin wrote: >> Well, there's no printer hooked up to that machine and the parallel >> port drivers weren't loaded, so it SHOULDN'T have conflicted. But >> (8shrug* it works now. > Just FYI, IRQ assignment for things like the parallel port is usually > controlled by the BIOS, not the OS-level drivers. If you look at your > BIOS settings you'll probably (though not necessarily) find an entry/field > you can change as you see fit. Oh! That makes sense :) Thanks. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : People need joy quite as much as clothing, Some of them need it : far more. -- Mary Collier Graham, Gifts and Givers ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Tar options
I do backups of /home and /etc to my zip drive pretty regularly. Just recently /home got too big to fit onto the zip so I'm excluding certain files. I'm using the option "--exclude-from-file backup.excludes" and the backup.excludes file looks like this: *~ *home/news* *home/ftp* */core */log* */.netscape/cache/* Now the log shows that it doesn't seem to be backing up *~ or the logs or any of the others, but it IS still backing up /home/gossamer/.netscape/cache/* which is about 15 mb of stuff I do -not- want to back up. Anybody know why it's not working bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Artificial Intelligence: the art of making computers that behave : like the ones in movies. -- Bill Bulko ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: TeX Resources?
Rick Scott wrote: > Hoping to be able to complete reports and the like using vi instead > of some $DIETY-forsaken word processing software, I've just taken the > dive into learning TeX. (Debugging your philosophy paper is a novel > experience...!) Any particular reason yyou chose TeX instead of LaTeX? I recommend the latter ... there is a book I have but it's in the other room. Damm not having bookshelves in the puter room! It's THE book, the only one everybody alwaays talks about for LaTeX and it's pretty cool. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : A long dispute means that both sides are wrong. -- Voltaire ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Re: TeX Resources?
Eric R. Turner wrote: > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Bek Oberin wrote: > > Rick Scott wrote: > > > Hoping to be able to complete reports and the like using vi instead > > > of some $DIETY-forsaken word processing software, I've just taken the > > > dive into learning TeX. (Debugging your philosophy paper is a novel > > > experience...!) > > Any particular reason yyou chose TeX instead of LaTeX? I > > recommend the latter ... there is a book I have but it's in the > > other room. Damm not having bookshelves in the puter room! It's > > THE book, the only one everybody alwaays talks about for LaTeX > > and it's pretty cool. > I use Leslie Lampourt's book, "LaTeX: A Document Preparation System". He Bingo. That's the one I was thinking of. Although I mostly learned LaTeX from looking at other peoples' documents, like how I learned HTML. It's easier to copy and change. Can you get hold of some good stuff to look at? bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Nothing is out of the question the way I think and live my life. : I'm always thinking about creating. My future starts when I wake : up every morning. That's when it starts - when I wake up and see : the first light. Then, I'm grateful, and I can't wait to wake : up, because there's something new to do and try every day. Every : day I find something creative to do with my life. Music is a : blessing and a curse. But I love it, and I wouldn't have it no : other way. -- Miles Davis ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: Opinion needed on Mail Clients
Claudine Chionh wrote: > One of the problems changing from pine to mutt was that the keybindings > are quite different, especially the keys used to select/tag and apply > commands to tagged messages. It didn't take me long to get used to > mutt's keybindings, so when I'm stuck somewhere else with pine it drives > me crazy! (Mutt keybindings are similar to elm's.) I haven't tried it so somebody tell me if I'm wrong, but in /usr/doc/mutt/examples I have Pine.rc which is supposed to fiddle the Mutt keybindings to be just like Pine's, and other stuff to make Mutt look as much like Pine as possible. NFI how well it works or anything. There also seems to be one for Tin. YMMV, bekj -- : Usual state: (e) None of the above. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : The best thing about the future is that it only comes one day at : a time. -- Abraham Lincoln ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Re: IBM Via Voice
[Moved to techtalk as that's the appropriate place I think] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, Bek, and everyone else, > > Not much I -can- do. I don't use Windows at all but I may soon > > be forced to because my hands are deteriorating and the Linux > > voice rec software is not up to scratch yet :( > Have you tried the Via Voice software from IBM? I know it worked halfway > decently with OS/2, and it has to have gotten better since then, I hope. I > know it's packaged with the Mandrake 8.0 Power Pack. I know it's available but I think it's not much use yet. As far as I know you need the windows version and a windows setup to train the thing to your voice, THEN copy the training files over to Linux to use them. If anybody can correct me here I'd love to hear about it ... bekj -- : Usual state: (e) None of the above. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Only fools have no fear. -- Worf, ST:TNG ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Installing a new printer
I'm getting a new printer, hurrah! I'm used to using lpd and magicfilter on Debian for my 11-year-old HP DJ 500. But the new printer I'm getting is a black and white lazer printer, Brother 1250 which is one of their suggested printers in that category. This is according to linuxprinting.org. They say it works with a modified ghostscript driver or a stardard ljet4 driver. I can see a filter in /etc/magicfilter that is called ljet4-filter so I assume that's that one but the ghostscript filter gives higher-resolution results. How do I set it up to use the ghostscript? Most of the printing I do is either through netscape or straight postscript files from LaTeX or plain text through pr. The latter two I usually pipe through lpr. I'm a bit at a loss. I don't know much about ghostscript or using it. Would it be instead of magicfilter? a slightly confused bekj -- : Usual state: (e) None of the above. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : We have to learn to be our own best friend because we fall too : easily into the trap of being our worst enemy. -- ?? ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Icon Editor
ANybody know of a decent Icon Editor for Linux/X? I want to make some of those favicon.ico that IE likes to use when people bookmark my pages. bekj -- : Usual state: (e) None of the above. : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source : code. -- Dave Olson ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
