Re: [techtalk] Mutt functionality
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 09:33:24PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Telsa Gwynne thought: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 10:57:43AM -0700 or thereabouts, Michelle Dukich wrote: > > Searchable by the standard commandline tools > (grep thing Mail/receive*) or by a keybinding which is > usually escape-V (or do I mean escape-B? I forget :)) ^^ You do. > to search for a pattern in the bodies of all messages > in the folder you're in. Another capability here is the 'l' key which 'limits' display to match a pattern. For example, you *know* Telsa posted something vaguely about laptops a while back (you did, didn't you Telsa?) but you can't remember the subject line, you can do 'l Telsa' and get only messages from Telsa and then hunt through them for a vaguely familiar or appropriate subjectline. > > 3. Can we cut and paste text within and between > > emails with Mutt? > > Well, you can run two mutts open on different messages > and cut and paste like that. This is the one thing that bothers me about mutt. I suppose I could have vi shell out and start another mutt to get the text from. That'd be cool! > > Any pointers/suggestions anyone else can give are > > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > Only thing I can think of is that mahogany is GUI, I believe? > Mutt is firmly, adamantly, text-based. But very customisable. In colour, this list (and others) shows up very nicely with things like threaded conversations, new messages in bright red, old ones in plain red, personal new messages in bright yellow and messages that I've replied to in blue (bright). > It will do things like > display pics if you tell it to, but it assumes you may be > reading on a console so it won't do that by default. (It > tells you the attachment is present, and you can either > open them on a "as you meet them" basis, or you can set it > up always to open certain sorts. > > Telsa Conor -- Conor Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Domestic Sysadmin :-) - Faenor.cod.ie 12:07am up 21 days, 24 min, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.06 Hobbiton.cod.ie 12:16am up 21 days, 33 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] X issues
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:07:45AM -0400, coldfire wrote: > > Start X from the command line like so - > > $ startx > X.out 2>&1 > > or to just view the output of X - > > $ X > X.out 2>&1 > > by default, X dumps logs to /var/log/XFree86.0.log ... it should mention > that if you get the error "Fatal: No Screens Found" .. I'm wondering if this is distro specific tweak to a config file? I've got a debian box that was fatal erring everywhere and no log file in /var/log. kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Video/Net Cam for conferencing
Hello, I would like to setup Video conferencing on Linux. It is running 2.2.19 kernel and with a ATI 3D Rage Pro adapter. It is possible to view TV/Video on this adapter( I did it with NT, long time ago ). On linux, the video cam is hooked to the adapter and I can watch video too. Now, I would like to setup Video conferencing. There seem to be several video/net cams on the market. Which of these cams are Linux friendly? I would certainly prefer good quality video. Any pointers and experiences appreciated. Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/subba9/ GPG public key ID 27FC9217 Key fingerprint = 2B4C 498E 1860 5A2B 6570 5852 7527 882A 27FC 9217 ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Firewalls und an off-topic Solaris question
Hey all, Have a couple of questions for you. First, I'm setting up a Linux box with 64-bit PCI Gig ethernet cards. One SX, and one copper. It's going to act as a firewall. So, the first question is has anyone had any experience with Linux firewalling and Gig speeds? Are there horrible throughput issues? Any other gotchas? I'll be testing throughput today or monday against another SX box, but I unfortunately don't have another gig copper box to test against. Ah well. The second question's a bit easier, and I think it's been asked before but not answered. A friend of mine recently got a job as a Solaris admin (much to his chagrin; more like he got stuck with the job), and needs a good Solaris Admin book that's somewhat basic. Any suggestions? Thanks all... -Brian - Brian Sweeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The life expectancy of an unpatched, default installation of Red Hat 6.2 server is three days. The last time we attempted to confirm this, the system was compromised in eight hours." -The Honeynet Project ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] X issues
> > by default, X dumps logs to /var/log/XFree86.0.log ... it should mention > > that if you get the error "Fatal: No Screens Found" .. > > I'm wondering if this is distro specific tweak to a config > file? I've got a debian box that was fatal erring everywhere and no > log file in /var/log. hrm .. i just assumed it was default .. i'm currently running slackware 7.2 (can't *WAIT* to get a copy of 8.0) and i chose not to install X. rather, i grabbed the latest from XFree86's web site and built it from there. i've always had it in that same spot ... not sure :/ abe ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] More X
Well, I got version 4.03 of XFree86, and I still get the same problem - the standard svga driver, as well as the one that got installed by default by Progeny, has the same sort of "off" color. I've tried a number of the other X servers (for no good reason, really), and either I get the same "off" color, or I get a white screen I have to recover from. I long while ago, I did have X working well with Debian, with this hardware, but that X config file is long lost. So I know it's possible. The log files don't give me much of a clue - although there is one list of stuff in the log files that are interesting: (==) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz (**) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 230 MHz (II) GLINT(0): XZE:4369: Using hsync range of 30.00-60.00 kHz (II) GLINT(0): XZE:4369: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-75.00 Hz (II) GLINT(0): Clock range: 16.25 to 230.00 MHz (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x350" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x400" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "720x400" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1152x864" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (--) GLINT(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz Are these "bad mode clock" entries significant? Michelle -- Michelle Murrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Mutt functionality
Conor Daly writes: > > > 3. Can we cut and paste text within and between > > > emails with Mutt? > > > > Well, you can run two mutts open on different messages > > and cut and paste like that. > > This is the one thing that bothers me about mutt. I suppose I could have > vi shell out and start another mutt to get the text from. That'd be cool! I usually just run another copy of mutt in a different shell window. Or if I'm not in X (running on the console or over a telnet line), I ctrl-Z to suspend the mutt process, use more or vi or another mutt or whatever is easiest to view the text I want to copy, quit that then fg back into mutt. > But very customisable. In colour, this list (and others) shows up very > nicely with things like threaded conversations, new messages in bright > red, old ones in plain red, personal new messages in bright yellow and > messages that I've replied to in blue (bright). Mutt's color handling is one of its strongest features. I love being able to highlight specific headers in different colors, and its ability to colorize quoted text so it stands out from original text. Though I admit that speed (compared to any of the GUI mailers) is really the biggest reason I'm using it instead of a GUI. > > It will do things like > > display pics if you tell it to, but it assumes you may be > > reading on a console so it won't do that by default. (It > > tells you the attachment is present, and you can either > > open them on a "as you meet them" basis, or you can set it > > up always to open certain sorts. And you can have it autodisplay attachments, e.g. I get a lot of html mail (at work) so I have it automatically run html attachments through w3m (like lynx but smarter about tables). Also, the code's pretty clean so if you ever need to add or change anything, it's easy to do. There's a mutt-users list which is great for sharing mutt tips; unfortunately, it has some sort of glitch and kept dropping me, and I got tired of having resubscribe twice a week so I gave up. -- ...Akkana http://www.shallowsky.com ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Slack 8 & Realplayer 8 problem
Hi: I've been on this list for a week or so now and I haven't written anything yet (sorry!). Anyhow, I was working on an upgrade to Slackware. Overall, I like the changes in the distribution, especially GNOME, but alas this is not an editorial. This is something I also sent to alt.os.linux.slackware, but I haven't had access to usenet to follow this up and was looking for other perspectives anyhow. I just purged my Slackware 7.0 and replaced it with Slackware 8.0. It has been my easiest install ever of Slackware, not that installing it is terribly difficult. I installed Realplayer 8, the one that I have used on Slackware 7.0. I thought I configured my sound properties properly. Sound works as both root and regular user. However, for some reason, I can't get it to play sounds. I get the following message: Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it. Nothing else that I am aware of is using the sound card at that time. The card is a CS4232. Despite being cheap and a little awkward to configure, it works okay. This should be a simple problem to solve, but I am stumped. If anyone has any suggestions to resolve this problem, I would appreciate it. Jenn jsd(a)jenn.ca ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] File sharing over the internet
I'm currently working on a large project (web based email). Well its large for me, anyway. I'm working on it with another user (she is in two locations, on one same machine, was at home and now at university). I am on 2 computers: Laptop I bring to home and work and my main desktop at home. Is there anyway for all of us to sync files easily? The closest thing I can describe how I'd like to do this is MS Frontpage extensions (But of course, not that). I'd prefer everything to be done in real time (maybe thats not the right term... I mean that all of us are using the freshest copy from the server with nothing local except for images waiting to go up to the server). I know if I was editing the files on the server directly, I wouldn't have to do this, but I prefer using PHPEd and Dreamweaver UltraDev :) Whats the best way to do this? An idea that popped into my head was a VPN that shares the necessary files and folders on on the web server. Any other simpler ideas? Samba is out of the question, as our ISP at home blocks ports 137-139 (It is part of the "Good Neighbor Policy" among cable ISPs. Guess it is a good idea because most users are idiots). If VPN is the only way, it has to work in a few ways... 1. I'm behind a masqed machine at home and a DSL router at work, so it must work through those. 2. It has to not involve changes to the network at work (ie, have to make a tunnel between the two networks instead of between my computer and the server) 3. All my machines are WinME for client and the main server is Debian, so it needs to be able to work on ME. 4. Have a good howto/tutorial/manual on it Thanks! - k p.s. btw, I know I might get flamed for this, but super duper security (Quadruple 3DES etc) is not required for this. Just really looking for functionality over security, at least now.
Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet
I was thinking CVS... but not keeping changes local is important (so noone is holding out on something important on accident). Would CVS be able to do this? I always thought CVS was more like a different kind of FTP (How I've come to understand it is that you have people that can update the source and others that can just view and download it. Am I missing something?) - k - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet > kath wrote: > > > > Is there anyway for all of us to sync files easily? The closest thing I > > can describe how I'd like to do this is MS Frontpage extensions (But of > > course, not that). I'd prefer everything to be done in real time (maybe > > thats not the right term... I mean that all of us are using the freshest > > copy from the server with nothing local except for images waiting to go > > up to the server). > > This looks like the sort of problem that CVS (concurrent versioning > system) was designed to solve. > > If you're familiar with CVS, that's probably enough answer. If not, > please say something & I (or someone else) can give you a quickie > CVS tutorial - and/or tell you the range of CVS-like options. > > > > > Jenn V. > -- > "Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture > you miss out on by being a geek?" - Dancer. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenn Vesperman http://www.simegen.com/~jenn/ > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet
oops, to be clearer: What I meant by "local" is, on our workstations. I want all changes on the server with no files on the client. - k - Original Message - From: "kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet > I was thinking CVS... but not keeping changes local is important (so noone > is holding out on something important on accident). > > Would CVS be able to do this? I always thought CVS was more like a > different kind of FTP (How I've come to understand it is that you have > people that can update the source and others that can just view and download > it. Am I missing something?) > > - k > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:01 PM > Subject: Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet > > > > kath wrote: > > > > > > > Is there anyway for all of us to sync files easily? The closest thing I > > > can describe how I'd like to do this is MS Frontpage extensions (But of > > > course, not that). I'd prefer everything to be done in real time (maybe > > > thats not the right term... I mean that all of us are using the freshest > > > copy from the server with nothing local except for images waiting to go > > > up to the server). > > > > This looks like the sort of problem that CVS (concurrent versioning > > system) was designed to solve. > > > > If you're familiar with CVS, that's probably enough answer. If not, > > please say something & I (or someone else) can give you a quickie > > CVS tutorial - and/or tell you the range of CVS-like options. > > > > > > > > > > Jenn V. > > -- > > "Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture > > you miss out on by being a geek?" - Dancer. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenn Vesperman http://www.simegen.com/~jenn/ > > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet
Thnks for clearing up me being a non-specific dumbass for me yet again, James. You could at least use the right e-mail account to send it out and thus complete your half-hearted attempt at clearing up my misclarity under my name, turkey. Where are you now, out on the "ruff" again helping your brother get off it, again? Ok, done bashing you publicly. msg me when you get in ;) - k - Original Message - From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet > oops, to be clearer: > > What I meant by "local" is, on our workstations. I want all changes on the > server with no files on the client. > > - k > > - Original Message - > From: "kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet > > > > I was thinking CVS... but not keeping changes local is important (so noone > > is holding out on something important on accident). > > > > Would CVS be able to do this? I always thought CVS was more like a > > different kind of FTP (How I've come to understand it is that you have > > people that can update the source and others that can just view and > download > > it. Am I missing something?) > > > > - k > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [techtalk] File sharing over the internet > > > > > > > kath wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyway for all of us to sync files easily? The closest thing > I > > > > can describe how I'd like to do this is MS Frontpage extensions (But > of > > > > course, not that). I'd prefer everything to be done in real time > (maybe > > > > thats not the right term... I mean that all of us are using the > freshest > > > > copy from the server with nothing local except for images waiting to > go > > > > up to the server). > > > > > > This looks like the sort of problem that CVS (concurrent versioning > > > system) was designed to solve. > > > > > > If you're familiar with CVS, that's probably enough answer. If not, > > > please say something & I (or someone else) can give you a quickie > > > CVS tutorial - and/or tell you the range of CVS-like options. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jenn V. > > > -- > > > "Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture > > > you miss out on by being a geek?" - Dancer. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenn Vesperman http://www.simegen.com/~jenn/ > > > > > > > > > ___ > > techtalk mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Screen is your friend (was Re: [techtalk] Mutt functionality)
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:27:53AM -0700, Akkana wrote: > I usually just run another copy of mutt in a different shell window. > Or if I'm not in X (running on the console or over a telnet line), > I ctrl-Z to suspend the mutt process, use more or vi or another mutt > or whatever is easiest to view the text I want to copy, quit that > then fg back into mutt. A tailor made solution for this kind of thing is the 'screen' utility. You have your one console or remote login, type screen, and you're presented with a normal prompt. Type 'mutt', you're in mutt. Now the screen magic. Press Ctrl-a and then c, and you're presented with a new prompt. Type 'vi' you're in vi. Press Ctrl-a and then 0 - back to mutt. Ctrl-a 1, back to vi. Basically it creates what you can think of as consoles and hooks them all up to your tty, and you can switch between them. This means you can switch between processes without sending them into the background. It is especially good for remote logins, because you can run n text-based programs with 1 login. It is also handy for consoles, because there are normally only 6 of them, and screen doesn't make you type your password into each one. It also has a second nifty feature of being able to grab a screen session attached to another tty and transfer it to your current tty, so you can go into your half-done mail reading or vi session or whatever. If you want to log out of your remote session and detach your screen session first, the key combination is Ctrl-a D D. Then start screen with the -r flag next time you use it and screen will grab the old screen session and can are presented with mutt and vi! Now that I've said all that I have to confess to not being much of a screen user, since I tend to use only mutt remotely and use vim's cut and paste in visual mode to move data between files, but I have used to to combine mutt and slrn remotely, and many people find it useful. Mary. -- Mary Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Key ID: 77625870 (wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net) ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: Screen is your friend (was Re: [techtalk] Mutt functionality)
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:42:07PM -0400, David Merrill wrote: > Very cool. The kde virtual terminal (konsole?) allows something very > similar, but the various terminals show as tabs on the bottom of the > window. Quite slick. I use PWM as my window manager, which is very minimalist but allows me to tab xterms together and cycle through them with Ctrl-Shift-[number]. screen is very similar but is text based - it's the solution when you want to run ten text based programs remotely but don't want to ssh in ten times to get ten ttys :) There's not much point using it in X because xterms are sort of the same idea. Mary. -- Mary Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Key ID: 77625870 (wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net) ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: Screen is your friend (was Re: [techtalk] Mutt functionality)
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 01:46:40PM +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:42:07PM -0400, David Merrill wrote: > > Very cool. The kde virtual terminal (konsole?) allows something very > > similar, but the various terminals show as tabs on the bottom of the > > window. Quite slick. > > I use PWM as my window manager, which is very minimalist but allows me > to tab xterms together and cycle through them with > Ctrl-Shift-[number]. > > screen is very similar but is text based - it's the solution when you > want to run ten text based programs remotely but don't want to ssh in > ten times to get ten ttys :) Laziness aside, one time when screen is invaluable is if you are logged in to a box without a monitor via a null-modem cable and minicom (or something similar) -- something I've been doing a lot lately. You can only ever have one such connection, so if you want to do multiple things, screen is your friend. :-) Cheers, Malcolm -- To steal ideas from one person is plagarism; to steal from many is research. ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
