Well, I got version 4.03 of XFree86, and I still get the same problem - the standard svga driver, as well as the one that got installed by default by Progeny, has the same sort of "off" color. I've tried a number of the other X servers (for no good reason, really), and either I get the same "off" color, or I get a white screen I have to recover from. I long while ago, I did have X working well with Debian, with this hardware, but that X config file is long lost. So I know it's possible. The log files don't give me much of a clue - although there is one list of stuff in the log files that are interesting: (==) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz (**) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 230 MHz (II) GLINT(0): XZE:4369: Using hsync range of 30.00-60.00 kHz (II) GLINT(0): XZE:4369: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-75.00 Hz (II) GLINT(0): Clock range: 16.25 to 230.00 MHz (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x350" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x400" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "720x400" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (vrefresh out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1152x864" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (--) GLINT(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz Are these "bad mode clock" entries significant? Michelle -- ------------------------ Michelle Murrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk