Re: [techtalk] FastTrak100 rant

2001-04-27 Thread James A . Sutherland

On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:00:48 -0700, you wrote:

>As the subject implies, this isn't so much a question as a general
>frustration rant.
>
>BEGIN RANT
>ARG!
>
>Promise claims to have all this great linux support for their stuff.  But
>I've got a FastTrak100 ide RAID card that might as well be a paperweight for
>my RH7.1 (yeah, I know it's broken ;that's a seperate issue).  More
>specifically, they won't release the source and only have compiled modules
>for 2.2 (I've tried; they just don't work in 2.4).
>
>ARG!
>
>Well, software RAID it is then.  

Software RAID is all the FastTrak does in the first place - the only
useful bit is that (unlike Linux's software RAID) their BIOS extension
will allow you to boot from a RAID volume directly.

If you look very carefully at how that system works, in fact you'll
find it's exactly the same chip they use on their "non-RAID" IDE
adapters: there's a small hardware difference (an extra soldered link)
which enables this feature in their BIOS, and that's about it.

So unless you want to BOOT from a mirrored partition, don't worry:
just use plain old Linux software RAID. If you want your whole HDD
mirrored, booting from a floppy will give you this ability too.

>So glad they put the RAID options at
>install time; makes boot raids so much easier than in 5.x.
>END RANT

You'll also find Andre Hedrick (the "Linux-ATA guy") is ... less than
friendly towards Promise. Lots of nastiness took place between them
over licensing terms, it seems.


James.

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[techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #424 - 10 msgs

2001-04-27 Thread Linda MacPhee-Cobb

My laptop sleeps itself too which is more than a bit frustrating.  I have 
'compaq presario'.

I turned off all the bios power savers as well as the two linux power saver 
demons and put on a screen saver and no more sleep problems.  For about 6 
months.

Then, out of the blue, it started sleeping itself again last week.  Go 
figure.  I have not installed anything new.  (I've been too busy learning 
php to break anything ;-) )

I have noticed that putting on screen savers seems to help, but only some of 
the screen savers.  Try messing around with the time and choice of screen 
saver.  It may be that a screen saver overrides sleep, or some screen savers 
try to do weird power managemnt?

If anyone figures it out let me know.  It is very frustrating.
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[techtalk] RE: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #424 - 10 msgs

2001-04-27 Thread Brian Sweeney

Tami-

> I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear in my original post.  I loaded
> NOTHING onto the TWC machine.  THe telnet daemon (or whatever M$ calls
> it) was already running.  I merely took advantage of an ALREADY
> INSTALLED PROGRAM in order to read email as part of my job search (an
> activity which has been totally halted by this senseless act. The
> search for public terminals that have telnet require several hours a
> day in bus rides and terminal time is limited to no more than one hour
> a day.)

That part I understood, and agree with you on; the claims this SysAdmin
where making and his anger at your use of telnet was misguided at best,
ignorant at worst.

> Once again - for those with an intelligent understanding of the problem:

This is just rude.  With that sentence you've effectively implied that
anyone who didn't understand the first time or doesn't agree with you
doesn't have "an intelligent understanding of the problem".  I'm not trying
to pick a fight, just pointing this out.

> >>The administrator to which the unnamed machine manager referred me
> >>and to whom complaints about the anonymous clueless one may be sent
> >>(cc: or Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] please) is:
> >>
> >>  Theodore Andrews III, Site Manager
> >>3401 Webberville Rd, Bldg 1000
> >>   Austin, Tx 78702
> >> (512) 223-5459(voice)
> >>  (512) 223-5464(fax)
> >>
> >>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >>I appreciate everyone's help.
> >>

And as I said I don't feel this is the forum for launching a flame campaign
on this guy, or anyone for that matter.  The last time I emailed this
opinion, I recieved responses by people who agreed with me.  We don't flame
each other, and I don't think we should en-masse flame people outside the
list.  That kind of thing sets up an "us-against-them" situation, and
LinuxChix has always had a friendly, welcoming, anti-RTFM atmosphere where
pretty much anyone can speak.  Hell, they let me blabber on *GRIN*.

Speaking of blabbering on, time to wrap this one up...

-Brian





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[techtalk] Fix for "Can't SCP from behind a firewall"

2001-04-27 Thread Raven, amateur historian

Heya --

 Recently, my husband and I experienced problems trying to scp from
behind our home firewall to our server (hosted elsewhere).  We
discovered our firewall was denying the return packets (they were
coming in on a privileged port).  My husband slightly modified the scp
code to allow the return traffic to come in on a non-priviliged port. 
He asked me to post his fix here so that anyone else with the same
problem can find it, since he's not on any Linux mailing lists.

Cheers,
Raven

***
When using secure shell to connect to remote machines, I
discovered that my firewall was an impediment - not allowing
incoming traffic to privileged ports, it was denying all
the returned information from the remote machine.

Not wanting to weaken my firewall for such a vague purpose,
I looked in the manpages for ssh, and found the "-P" switch
to make it use only unprivileged ports (those numbered 1024
and above). All was happy.

Then I tried to use scp, (secure copy - transfers files
without sending plain-text password) which in turn uses 
ssh. The same problem turns up, but this time, there is no 
switch for unprivileged ports... And you can only give 
long-form options to ssh from scp. There are no long-form 
options for using only unprivileged ports. No apparent 
solution.

I'm using OpenSSH. I figure "It's open-source, this should
be an easy thing to fix."
And so it was. In the source files, I opened 'scp.c' and
poked around a bit, scrolling down looking for something
relevant. After about 20 seconds I found the options part,
starting 15 lines down from 'main'.
All I had to do was make scp pass "-P" as an option to ssh.
Two very easy changes; first, I changed
while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "dfprtvBCc:i:P:q46S:o:")) != EOF)
to
while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "NdfprtvBCc:i:P:q46S:o:")) != EOF)

(adding that N, as the letter I choose to indicate Not Privileged)

then I added another 'case' to the 'switch';
  case 'N':
addargs("-P");
break;

That's all there was to it. I suppose I should have changed
the man-file too, but I don't want to touch that stuff.

In case anyone else is having this problem, I have this to
say for search engines; "How to make scp stop using privileged
ports by having it pass the -P option to ssh. Secure copy,
secure shell, firewall, privileged ports."

Thank you.

--RavenBlackhttp://www.ravenblack.net/
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Re: [techtalk] What can cause a computer to turn off on its own?

2001-04-27 Thread David Merrill

On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:45:33AM -0700, jennyw wrote:
> Here's an interesting hardware question. My computer has this habit of
> turning on by itself and turning off by itself, and I'm not sure why. I'm

I need an old priest and a young priest.

The Power of Christ Compels You!
The Power of Christ Compels You!

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Re: [techtalk] Fix for "Can't SCP from behind a firewall"

2001-04-27 Thread marisa mack

Alternatively, i think you can put something like:

Host *
UsePrivilegedPort No

in the config file in your .ssh directory. I could be way off-base,
it's still pretty early for me.

Marisa

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:30:55AM -0700, damask0 sed:
> Heya --
> 
>  Recently, my husband and I experienced problems trying to scp from
> behind our home firewall to our server (hosted elsewhere).  We
> discovered our firewall was denying the return packets (they were
> coming in on a privileged port).  My husband slightly modified the scp
> code to allow the return traffic to come in on a non-priviliged port. 
> He asked me to post his fix here so that anyone else with the same
> problem can find it, since he's not on any Linux mailing lists.


-- 

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Re: [techtalk] Fix for "Can't SCP from behind a firewall"

2001-04-27 Thread Raven, amateur historian

Heya --

Quoth Marisa:
> Alternatively, i think you can put something like:
> 
> Host *
> UsePrivilegedPort No
> 
> in the config file in your .ssh directory. I could be way off-base,
> it's still pretty early for me.

 I believe that that will cause ssh to use a non-priviliged port
(the -P option for ssh will do the same thing), but scp still tries to
use the priviliged port for its transfers.  (At least, that was our
experience with OpenSSH.)

Cheers,
Raven

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Re: [techtalk] What can cause a computer to turn off on its own?

2001-04-27 Thread jennyw

Yeah, that might be the next step ...

Actually, the problems have gone away.  How?  I'm not really sure.

I figured the power supply was at fault and replaced it.  Unfortunately, the
problems returned about half an hour after installing the new PS.  However,
all day today it hasn't done it, even when the tape drive has been in
operation.  I'd like to think the new PS made the diff, but then why the
weirdness shortly after install?  I just hope the MB isn't on the fritz.

Jen


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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [techtalk] What can cause a computer to turn off on its own?


> On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:45:33AM -0700, jennyw wrote:
> > Here's an interesting hardware question. My computer has this habit of
> > turning on by itself and turning off by itself, and I'm not sure why.
I'm
>
> I need an old priest and a young priest.
>
> The Power of Christ Compels You!
> The Power of Christ Compels You!
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Dr. David C. Merrill http://www.lupercalia.net
> Linux Documentation Project   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Collection Editor & Coordinatorhttp://www.linuxdoc.org
>Finger me for my public key
>
> Real software engineers don't debug programs, they verify correctness.
> This process doesn't necessarily involve execution of anything on a
> computer, except perhaps a Correctness Verification Aid package.
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[techtalk] Quick HTML/Server Question

2001-04-27 Thread Kath



Can bad HTML confuse the software running on the 
server and cause errors?Having a discussion with someone.
 
Now I'm talking raw HTML alone, no wild 
Perl/PHP/ASP/etc scripts.
 
- Kath


Re: [techtalk] Quick HTML/Server Question

2001-04-27 Thread Neale Green



Kath,
 
I can't think of any instance where straight, or 
"raw" HTML could effect the server it's running on, you are purely specifying 
output format and file locations, and the only file operations are 
"opens", rather than "executes", therefore you shouldn't be able to 
kick of any illicit operations within the server.
 
The ONLY chance I can see of it effecting the 
server, is that opening large images etc could suck memory resources below a 
critical level, OR a file being opened is somehow coded to execute upon opening, 
possible on a (hack, spit) Windows machine, but unlikely on a (sweet, wonderful) 
Linux box.
 
Hope this is of use,
 
Neale

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  From: 
  Kath 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:59 
  AM
  Subject: [techtalk] Quick HTML/Server 
  Question
  
  Can bad HTML confuse the software running on the 
  server and cause errors?Having a discussion with someone.
   
  Now I'm talking raw HTML alone, no wild 
  Perl/PHP/ASP/etc scripts.
   
  - Kath