Re: [techtalk] tftp timing out

2000-06-07 Thread Telsa Gwynne

On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 03:58:28PM -0500 or thereabouts, Nicoya Helm wrote:
> I think I must be missing something very obvious here.  When I try to 
> do a tftp transfer from another machine to mine (running solaris 8), 
> the request is timing out, but from what I can see the server is 
> running correctly on my machine, and both machines can see each other 
> (ping, traceroute).  inetd.conf reads:
> tftp  dgram udp6 wait root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd  in.tftpd -s /tftpboot
> and I've kill -1'd  it each time I've made any modifications. Any 
> ideas?

Just one, which I met with several ftp programs, though I haven't
used tftp. Are you behind a firewall? If so, I think you will need
to switch passive transfer on. Some programs do this automatically
(netscape, pftp) but others don't (lynx is a particular sod for this!)

I don't understand inetd, but I do recognise the "it just sits there
and stops" symptom, which in my case was the firewall and the need for
passive mode.

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[techtalk] getting in to free software development

2000-06-07 Thread Fan, Laurel

For those of you who want to work on free software but don't know how to
get started or where to find the time, you might want to take a look at
the recently formed wannabees mailing list, at
http://wannabees.sourceforge.net/ 


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[techtalk] two questions

2000-06-07 Thread Bilal Muddassir

my triton chipset based motherboard has an older bios and it supported my 
new 15gb disk. thats good.

it reports the two quantum fireball disks as udma 2 (older) and udma 4 
(newer) featured

1. running redhat 6.1 (or any other dist) does linux detect and initialize 
udma on the disks by default?

2. on the 15gb disk i plan to start the root partition from the 10gb mark 
because on the first 10gb the 'other' os is installed. how to boot this 
partition as lilo might find it hard to boot.

thanks

bilal

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Re: [techtalk] tftp timing out

2000-06-07 Thread eito

On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 03:58:28PM -0500, Nicoya Helm wrote:
> I think I must be missing something very obvious here.  When I try to 
> do a tftp transfer from another machine to mine (running solaris 8), 
> the request is timing out, but from what I can see the server is 
> running correctly on my machine, and both machines can see each other 
> (ping, traceroute).  inetd.conf reads:
> 
> tftp  dgram udp6 wait root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd  in.tftpd -s /tftpboot
>
> and I've kill -1'd  it each time I've made any modifications. Any 
> ideas?

Hi,

I think that you should use 'udp' instead of udp6 here.

> tftp  dgram udp6 wait root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd  in.tftpd -s /tftpboot
  
I am aware that Solaris 8 supports IPv6, so I may be wrong.

If you are trying to configure a jump start server or something,
you might want to try to look at

  http://docs.sun.com



Hope this helps

:eito


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[techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Kathy Hargreaves


Hi,

Does anyone out there in L.A. know of a Linux-friendly ISP?

Thanks,
Kathy


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Re: [techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Robert Wade

Well golly, all you really need is a ppp friendly isp, and most everyone
is. If suddenly every local la isp disappears, try mindspring or
earthlink (oh duh, they're the same now...)

Kathy Hargreaves wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone out there in L.A. know of a Linux-friendly ISP?
>
> Thanks,
> Kathy
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Re: [techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Erin Clarke

I assume that Kathy meant "Linux-friendly" in terms of support, 
not connectivity. 

I'm nowhere near L.A., so I can't help on that issue, but the 
reply from Robert comes across as a bit sarcastic, which isn't 
helpful. I thought that clarifying what Kathy meant might be, 
even if I can't suggest any L.A.-based ISPs who are known to 
provide tech support to Linux users.

Erin  8)

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On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:57:19PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> Well golly, all you really need is a ppp friendly isp, and most everyone
> is. If suddenly every local la isp disappears, try mindspring or
> earthlink (oh duh, they're the same now...)
> 
> Kathy Hargreaves wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone out there in L.A. know of a Linux-friendly ISP?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kathy


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Re: [techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Robert Wade

I most certianly was not being sarcastic, I was didn't really know what she
was talking about. I'm terribly sorry, however if it came across that way

Robert Wade


Erin Clarke wrote:

> I assume that Kathy meant "Linux-friendly" in terms of support,
> not connectivity.
>
> I'm nowhere near L.A., so I can't help on that issue, but the
> reply from Robert comes across as a bit sarcastic, which isn't
> helpful. I thought that clarifying what Kathy meant might be,
> even if I can't suggest any L.A.-based ISPs who are known to
> provide tech support to Linux users.
>
> Erin  8)
>
> --
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> SysAdmin-y Type
> Doer of Many Things
>
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:57:19PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> > Well golly, all you really need is a ppp friendly isp, and most everyone
> > is. If suddenly every local la isp disappears, try mindspring or
> > earthlink (oh duh, they're the same now...)
> >
> > Kathy Hargreaves wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Does anyone out there in L.A. know of a Linux-friendly ISP?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kathy
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Re: [techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Erin Clarke

Thanks for clarifying, Robert. I wasn't sure. Its hard to tell 
with text what tone is intended. I've seen enough snarky replies 
on mailing lists that I wanted to help clarify. [=^J 

One thing - at my last place of employ (a non-profit ISP) when 
I was in tech support, we didn't officially provide support to 
Linux users (we did have a few, but not many), but a couple of 
us would always try to be as helpful as we could. But then, we
generally went above and beyond the call of duty for all our 
users. But that's in Toronto and they've just stopped providing 
dial-up... 

Some ISPs are much more restricted and rigid in the extent of 
tech support provided and the support staff have everything 
in a binder, scripted, so if the problem exists outside that
then its likely not supported (though they can escalate some 
issues to other technical/support staff), regardless of the 
operating system in question (even if they do support Linux 
users). 

I guess my point is that its not easy to tell from the front 
end how Linux-friendly an ISP may be, which is probably why 
Kathy is asking this list. :^)

Good Luck!

Erin  8)

On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> I most certianly was not being sarcastic, I was didn't really know what she
> was talking about. I'm terribly sorry, however if it came across that way
> 
> Robert Wade
> 
> 
> Erin Clarke wrote:
> 
> > I assume that Kathy meant "Linux-friendly" in terms of support,
> > not connectivity.
> >
> > I'm nowhere near L.A., so I can't help on that issue, but the
> > reply from Robert comes across as a bit sarcastic, which isn't
> > helpful. I thought that clarifying what Kathy meant might be,
> > even if I can't suggest any L.A.-based ISPs who are known to
> > provide tech support to Linux users.
> >
> > Erin  8)
> >
> > --
> > Erin Clarke
> > SysAdmin-y Type
> > Doer of Many Things
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:57:19PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> > > Well golly, all you really need is a ppp friendly isp, and most everyone
> > > is. If suddenly every local la isp disappears, try mindspring or
> > > earthlink (oh duh, they're the same now...)
> > >
> > > Kathy Hargreaves wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone out there in L.A. know of a Linux-friendly ISP?

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Re: [techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Robert Wade

There's also the fact that most linux users don't really need support from the
place they're buying the service from, every linux book there is tells you how to
hook up with ppp, cable, and so on. There's also the LDP HOWTOs which are
terriffic (and very comprehensive).

There're also things like kppp and x-isp, and ppp-go (slackware) which make
everything a lot easier. Even in the ppp scripts (ppp-on and such) there're
comment lines that pretty much tell you what you're using.

Funny experience, I decided to cross over from mindspring to a little local isp
that I'd seen advertised on a lot of BBSs (I think they actually sponsored the
BBSs) because mindspring was a pain in the ass and rather slow. I call them up,
get an account with them. Then I ask them for the DNS servers, the woman on the
phone _refused_ to give me them, citing that they used server-assigned dns and
wins and all that stuff (I just found out what all this shit is while setting this
up with DUN, yes, DUN does suck in case y'all haven't had to use it). I stayed on
the phone for about thirty minutes explaining what linux is and why this server
assigned stuff wouldn't work with Linux (perhaps it will with modification, but I
don't know about it). She finnally said that she didn't know the dns server ips,
and would have someone call me tommarow...

Erin Clarke wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying, Robert. I wasn't sure. Its hard to tell
> with text what tone is intended. I've seen enough snarky replies
> on mailing lists that I wanted to help clarify. [=^J
>
> One thing - at my last place of employ (a non-profit ISP) when
> I was in tech support, we didn't officially provide support to
> Linux users (we did have a few, but not many), but a couple of
> us would always try to be as helpful as we could. But then, we
> generally went above and beyond the call of duty for all our
> users. But that's in Toronto and they've just stopped providing
> dial-up...
>
> Some ISPs are much more restricted and rigid in the extent of
> tech support provided and the support staff have everything
> in a binder, scripted, so if the problem exists outside that
> then its likely not supported (though they can escalate some
> issues to other technical/support staff), regardless of the
> operating system in question (even if they do support Linux
> users).
>
> I guess my point is that its not easy to tell from the front
> end how Linux-friendly an ISP may be, which is probably why
> Kathy is asking this list. :^)
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Erin  8)
>
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> > I most certianly was not being sarcastic, I was didn't really know what she
> > was talking about. I'm terribly sorry, however if it came across that way
> >
> > Robert Wade
> >
> >
> > Erin Clarke wrote:
> >
> > > I assume that Kathy meant "Linux-friendly" in terms of support,
> > > not connectivity.
> > >
> > > I'm nowhere near L.A., so I can't help on that issue, but the
> > > reply from Robert comes across as a bit sarcastic, which isn't
> > > helpful. I thought that clarifying what Kathy meant might be,
> > > even if I can't suggest any L.A.-based ISPs who are known to
> > > provide tech support to Linux users.
> > >
> > > Erin  8)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Erin Clarke
> > > SysAdmin-y Type
> > > Doer of Many Things
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:57:19PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> > > > Well golly, all you really need is a ppp friendly isp, and most everyone
> > > > is. If suddenly every local la isp disappears, try mindspring or
> > > > earthlink (oh duh, they're the same now...)
> > > >
> > > > Kathy Hargreaves wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone out there in L.A. know of a Linux-friendly ISP?
>
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RE: [techtalk] Techtalk FAQ

2000-06-07 Thread Fan, Laurel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> There is currently no techtalk FAQ. The rough outline exists, but is
> really nothing more at this stage than a set of docbook tags and a
> couple of headings. 

Haven't been able to do much on it, since I'm away from my unix machines,
and therefore don't have a) cvs, b) docbook/sgml stuff, or c) root. It
would be great if you'd take over, and here's the outline I have so far:

There's quite a bit of how-to-ask-for-help stuff, which apparently
some people don't like, so feel free to ignore this.  This is also
not very techtalk-specific, but oh well.

I. What is this list for/ what is this list not for.
   (eg techtalk topic thingy)
II. How to get help.
A. Suggestions of things to try before asking
1. documentation (how to find and how to use)
a. HOWTOs
  (what kind of stuff is in them)
  (where to find them: http://linuxdoc.org, http://oswg.org,
   others?)
b. man/info
   (what kind of stuff is in them)
   (how to use them/find them/search within them)
   (how to use man, more/less, apropos, info viewer)
c. project/distribution web pages & mailing lists
   (search engine, freshmeat, sourceforge, project.org,net,com)
d. random scattered documentation 
   (/usr/doc, /usr/*/doc, etc.., web search)
 2. is it a known bug?
a. look in bug tracking or faq (if exists)
(ref. II.A.1.c above)
b. upgrade to latest stable version (if possible)
(ref. II.A.1.c above, how to check for
 later package management versions)
 3. strace/gdb (possibly)
B. Helpful information to provide and how to get it
1. exact command arguments and output
   (how to copy/paste, how to use script)
2. system/distribution info
   (uname, where various distributions store version numbers,
how to get kernel/libc/other important stuff versions)
3. installation method (package management, source, binary...)
4. package/program version info (--version, -v, --help, etc.)
5. strace and/or gdb (maybe)
III. Actual FAQs
A. What distribution should I use? (possible distribution faq)
B. How do I do this in Linux?
   (look in software list sites, search manpages)
C. Is there something in Linux similar to this in another os?
   (look in software list sites)
   (decribe in detail, not everyone is familiar with every
other os, even windows)
D. Will this hardware work in Linux?
   (mostly links to stuff like hardware compatibility list,
linux laptop page, Xfree video card list, etc)
E. Various modem/ppp questions
   (winmodems, modem HCL, various modem-related HOWTOs)
F. How do I install this
1. how to use package managers
   (pointers to package manager documentation, maybe a few
more frequently used commands)
2. how to compile from source 
(how to un-tar.gz stuff, how to use
 ./configure;make;make install, make -n, )
3. It's won't install, what's wrong
(dependency problems, -dev/-devel packages, compile
 problems, don't have a compiler (configure sometimes
 spits out a really not-useful error message when
 it can't find the compiler))
G. It doesn't work, what's wrong
(ref II.A)
H. etc.
   
IV. Links 
(mostly references from above, newbie sites, other faqs, other lists,
etc.)
(possible overlap with web site links? offtopic, the links would
 probably be more helpful if there was a way to submit them besides
 bothering Deb, say, something like http://kanga.nu/library/. even
 more offtopic, it would be nice if other stuff (profiles, software
 reviews, FAQs, etc) was automated as well.  surely the php hackers on
this
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Re: [techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Julie Meloni

I'm in Northern CA, not Southern CA, but I've never had a problem with
Linux -> Earthlink.  There's a smidge about Linux connectivity on the
Earthlink customer service/help stuff, and there are enough Linux ->
Earthlink users that the CNET "Linux Help" message boards are full of
"how do I connect to Earthlink using X Y or Z" questions...WITH answers!
:) Always a plus.

When I dialup to Earthlink, it's either on my Slackware-runnin'
ThinkPad, or my desktop system that runs the Corel version of Linux. 
Completely different modems and dial utilities on the two boxes, but
Earthlink's login sequence is nice and standardized, so it works like a
charm.

Hope that helps

- julie

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Re: [techtalk] tftp timing out

2000-06-07 Thread Nicoya Helm


> 
> I think that you should use 'udp' instead of udp6 here.
> 
> > tftp  dgram udp6 wait root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd  in.tftpd -
s /tftpboot

Yep, you hit that initial part on the head. Extra eyes always help 
catch those little, obvious things. :) The other part was that the 
target file in /tftpboot needs to be touched prior to the tftp 
attempt and have the correct permissions (777 I believe).  Thanks to 
everyone who helped!

~~~Nicoya...




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Re: [techtalk] friendly html/php editor on linux?

2000-06-07 Thread Nils Philippsen

Hi Julie,

On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Julie Meloni wrote:

> "Erb, Maria" wrote:
> > 
> > hi all,
> > 
> > great list!  I'm new but this is the best list I've ever been on.  Here's a
> > question:  I like to code in Allaire's HomeSite b/c of all the nice color
> > coded tags (it recognizes php, perl, javascript and other stuff) and other
> > ease-of-use features.  But my development platform is php/apache/mysql.
> > Does anyone know of a similar type editor for linux? 
> 
> There's a list at http://www.itworks.demon.co.uk/phpeditors.htm
> 
> I can't vouch for any of 'em, because I just use Emacs.

Do you (or anyone else reading this) by chance know of an elisp package
that provides some kind of PHP mode? Or anything else to have that thing
(XEmacs in my case) behave with PHP/HTML "woven". I'd really like to have
indentation and syntax highlighting working. At the moment I use c++-mode,
but that's far from perfect (it gets pretty nuts on the HTML parts :-).

Nils
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Re: [techtalk] two questions

2000-06-07 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Bilal Muddassir wrote:

> my triton chipset based motherboard has an older bios and it supported my 
> new 15gb disk. thats good.
> 
> it reports the two quantum fireball disks as udma 2 (older) and udma 4 
> (newer) featured
> 
> 1. running redhat 6.1 (or any other dist) does linux detect and initialize 
> udma on the disks by default?

I don't think so, take a look at the "hdparms" command for that. You have
to integrate it in e.g. rc.local by yourself, though.

> 2. on the 15gb disk i plan to start the root partition from the 10gb mark 
> because on the first 10gb the 'other' os is installed. how to boot this 
> partition as lilo might find it hard to boot.

Hmm, pray that it's entirely below 1024 cylinders? Or better (if 10GB is
below 1024 cyls, but somewhere above that is not), create a small (I'm
talking 7-10MB here) /boot partition, where you put your kernels and
initrds into, directly after that other OS, then /, swap, /usr adn
whatever else.

Newer versions of LILO _could_ support kernels after 1024 cylinders, but
the BIOS must support it (only very recent ones do this).

Nils
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Re: [techtalk] Web programming and nomic

2000-06-07 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Sharon Souter wrote:

> Not only is this an open source, cross-platform language, but it can
> interface to just about any database. In my research, I understand the
> newest version of MySQL does in fact support transactions and subselects are
> on the list to be incorporated. I however, have not had a use for those so
> far.

You will have as soon as you do something "more complex". It is great to
have the DBMS sort things out, compared with doing it for yourself. Give
PostgreSQL a shot, when you're into such stuff, it has even some more
fancy features like foreign keys.

> Seriously, if you are doing any kind of web database, you can't go wrong
> with the powerful and flexible combination of PHP, MySQL & of
> course...Apache ;)  Not only is this a cross-platform language, but it can
> interface to just about any database.

If you want to be fairly independent of which DB you use (modulo the DB's
feature set, that is), take a look at PHPLIB (http://phplib.netuse.de),
which has a nice abstraction class with which you can use just about any
database through the same API.

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Re: [techtalk] friendly html/php editor on linux?

2000-06-07 Thread Julie Meloni

> Do you (or anyone else reading this) by chance know of an elisp package
> that provides some kind of PHP mode?

Another from my "can't vouch for it, but it's there" list...
http://www.funq.org/turadg/software/

- julie

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Re: [techtalk] know of a linux-friendly isp in la?

2000-06-07 Thread Nancy Corbett


Great story, Robert!  The funniest part is that she believed that the DNS
IPs were confidential information, as if anyone doing an nslookup couldn't
see what they were!

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Robert Wade wrote:

> There's also the fact that most linux users don't really need support from the
> place they're buying the service from, every linux book there is tells you how to
> hook up with ppp, cable, and so on. There's also the LDP HOWTOs which are
> terriffic (and very comprehensive).
> 
> There're also things like kppp and x-isp, and ppp-go (slackware) which make
> everything a lot easier. Even in the ppp scripts (ppp-on and such) there're
> comment lines that pretty much tell you what you're using.
> 
> Funny experience, I decided to cross over from mindspring to a little local isp
> that I'd seen advertised on a lot of BBSs (I think they actually sponsored the
> BBSs) because mindspring was a pain in the ass and rather slow. I call them up,
> get an account with them. Then I ask them for the DNS servers, the woman on the
> phone _refused_ to give me them, citing that they used server-assigned dns and
> wins and all that stuff (I just found out what all this shit is while setting this
> up with DUN, yes, DUN does suck in case y'all haven't had to use it). I stayed on
> the phone for about thirty minutes explaining what linux is and why this server
> assigned stuff wouldn't work with Linux (perhaps it will with modification, but I
> don't know about it). She finnally said that she didn't know the dns server ips,
> and would have someone call me tommarow...
> 
> Erin Clarke wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for clarifying, Robert. I wasn't sure. Its hard to tell
> > with text what tone is intended. I've seen enough snarky replies
> > on mailing lists that I wanted to help clarify. [=^J
> >
> > One thing - at my last place of employ (a non-profit ISP) when
> > I was in tech support, we didn't officially provide support to
> > Linux users (we did have a few, but not many), but a couple of
> > us would always try to be as helpful as we could. But then, we
> > generally went above and beyond the call of duty for all our
> > users. But that's in Toronto and they've just stopped providing
> > dial-up...
> >
> > Some ISPs are much more restricted and rigid in the extent of
> > tech support provided and the support staff have everything
> > in a binder, scripted, so if the problem exists outside that
> > then its likely not supported (though they can escalate some
> > issues to other technical/support staff), regardless of the
> > operating system in question (even if they do support Linux
> > users).
> >
> > I guess my point is that its not easy to tell from the front
> > end how Linux-friendly an ISP may be, which is probably why
> > Kathy is asking this list. :^)
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Erin  8)
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> > > I most certianly was not being sarcastic, I was didn't really know what she
> > > was talking about. I'm terribly sorry, however if it came across that way
> > >
> > > Robert Wade
> > >
> > >
> > > Erin Clarke wrote:
> > >
> > > > I assume that Kathy meant "Linux-friendly" in terms of support,
> > > > not connectivity.
> > > >
> > > > I'm nowhere near L.A., so I can't help on that issue, but the
> > > > reply from Robert comes across as a bit sarcastic, which isn't
> > > > helpful. I thought that clarifying what Kathy meant might be,
> > > > even if I can't suggest any L.A.-based ISPs who are known to
> > > > provide tech support to Linux users.
> > > >
> > > > Erin  8)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Erin Clarke
> > > > SysAdmin-y Type
> > > > Doer of Many Things
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:57:19PM -0500, Robert Wade wrote:
> > > > > Well golly, all you really need is a ppp friendly isp, and most everyone
> > > > > is. If suddenly every local la isp disappears, try mindspring or
> > > > > earthlink (oh duh, they're the same now...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Kathy Hargreaves wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone out there in L.A. know of a Linux-friendly ISP?
> >
> > --
> > Erin Clarke
> > SysAdmin-y Type
> > Doer of Many Things
> >
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Re: [techtalk] friendly html/php editor on linux?

2000-06-07 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Julie Meloni wrote:

> > Do you (or anyone else reading this) by chance know of an elisp package
> > that provides some kind of PHP mode?
> 
> Another from my "can't vouch for it, but it's there" list...
> http://www.funq.org/turadg/software/

Thanks for the quick response! I will definitely try it out, maybe even
try hacking indentation into it (if I don't go nuts with all those braces.
LISP *shudder*)

Nils
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Re: [techtalk] Web programming and nomic

2000-06-07 Thread Sharon Souter

Thanks for the info Nils :)

You are right, I have a ways to go yet. I have been concentrating on getting
down the database features and user authentication. I will delve into
sessions after that.

As a matter of fact, I have been working on a basic shopping cart this
evening. I just got done ordering 50 penguins at $30.00 each. Now all I have
to do is figure out where to put them! ROFL!!!

Gawd..I love this stuff!!!




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From: Nils Philippsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Sharon Souter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Jillian-Beth Stamos-Kaschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [techtalk] Web programming and nomic


> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Sharon Souter wrote:
>
> > Not only is this an open source, cross-platform language, but it can
> > interface to just about any database. In my research, I understand the
> > newest version of MySQL does in fact support transactions and subselects
are
> > on the list to be incorporated. I however, have not had a use for those
so
> > far.
>
> You will have as soon as you do something "more complex". It is great to
> have the DBMS sort things out, compared with doing it for yourself. Give
> PostgreSQL a shot, when you're into such stuff, it has even some more
> fancy features like foreign keys.
>
> > Seriously, if you are doing any kind of web database, you can't go wrong
> > with the powerful and flexible combination of PHP, MySQL & of
> > course...Apache ;)  Not only is this a cross-platform language, but it
can
> > interface to just about any database.
>
> If you want to be fairly independent of which DB you use (modulo the DB's
> feature set, that is), take a look at PHPLIB (http://phplib.netuse.de),
> which has a nice abstraction class with which you can use just about any
> database through the same API.
>
> Nils
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[techtalk] 3Com OfficeConnect Card?

2000-06-07 Thread Stephan Zaniolo

I'm setting up Red Hat Linux on a computer in my mom's store, and
I'm now trying to get networking setup.  The problem, it's got a 3Com
OfficeConnect Ethernet card (3CSOHO100-TX) and I can't find the driver
for this card in the kernel or any reference to it in any howtos.  Anyone
know if I can use this card?  If so, how?  Or do I have to get another
(mom won't be happy about that. :^(  ?

Thanks,
Stephan



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Re: [techtalk] 3Com OfficeConnect Card?

2000-06-07 Thread Nicole Zimmerman

It's a 3c95x/vortex based card. We have these in both our windows and
linux boxes and they work great with the 3c59x module. I don't think *I*
found it listed anywhere either, so we bought them on my assumption that
they were 3c59x (hubby wasn't so sure), plugged it in, recompiled with
that module and it worked *great*. Been up since at least March powering
our server.

The 3c59x/vortex module is very easy to find, they are very common
cards.

-nicole

Stephan Zaniolo wrote:
> 
> I'm setting up Red Hat Linux on a computer in my mom's store, and
> I'm now trying to get networking setup.  The problem, it's got a 3Com
> OfficeConnect Ethernet card (3CSOHO100-TX) and I can't find the driver
> for this card in the kernel or any reference to it in any howtos.  Anyone
> know if I can use this card?  If so, how?  Or do I have to get another
> (mom won't be happy about that. :^(  ?


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[techtalk] Re: Two questions

2000-06-07 Thread JoAnne Abbott

From: "Bilal Muddassir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 21:41:01 PKT
Subject: [techtalk] two questions

my triton chipset based motherboard has an older bios and it supported my
new 15gb disk. thats good.

it reports the two quantum fireball disks as udma 2 (older) and udma 4
(newer) featured

1. running redhat 6.1 (or any other dist) does linux detect and initialize
udma on the disks by default?

2. on the 15gb disk i plan to start the root partition from the 10gb mark
because on the first 10gb the 'other' os is installed. how to boot this
partition as lilo might find it hard to boot.

thanks

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I don't know if this will help but Mandrake just came out with 7.1 distro
and they say it overcomes the 1024 limit of LILO
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[techtalk] Compaq Presario 1240

2000-06-07 Thread Phil Savoie

Hi All,

This laptop comes with a touch pad that is recognized in Mandrake 
6.1.  This is also a dual boot machine w/win98.  It has a ps/2 port for an 
external mouse but if I use a mouse in windows the pad is disabled 
automatically, in Linux the pad *and* the mouse works simultaneously. Would 
anyone know where in Mandrake I could disable the touch pad?  It is 
extremely sensitive and is driving me nuts by placing the cursor all over 
the place if any of my fingers even hover close to the thing.

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you,

Phil



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[techtalk] Techtalk FAQ

2000-06-07 Thread jenn

I intended to send this just to Laurel, but:

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"Fan, Laurel" wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > There is currently no techtalk FAQ. The rough outline exists, but is
> > really nothing more at this stage than a set of docbook tags and a
> > couple of headings.
> 
> Haven't been able to do much on it, since I'm away from my unix machines,
> and therefore don't have a) cvs, b) docbook/sgml stuff, or c) root. It
> would be great if you'd take over, and here's the outline I have so far:

Why do you need root? (And you don't need the docbook/sgml stuff, I
don't mind doing the 'compilations'.)

Ok. I've inserted the raw data, will mark it up over the course of the
day.
I like it, by the way. :) Thank you. Nice job.


> (possible overlap with web site links? offtopic, the links would
>  probably be more helpful if there was a way to submit them besides
>  bothering Deb, say, something like http://kanga.nu/library/. even
>  more offtopic, it would be nice if other stuff (profiles, software
>  reviews, FAQs, etc) was automated as well.  surely the php hackers on
> this
>  list could implement this easily..)

That's what Deb is currently listidle doing - setting things up so that
there's a lot of roles, each with their own manager  (profiles,
chapters, reviews, FAQs) and that changing sections can be done via a
python/zope (current thought) or other interface.



Jenn V.
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