Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message
Hi Christopher, I have done some expermentation on this dilemma and found an interesting result! By the way, I am using N86, with Talks and zooms V premium 5.00.3. I asked my sighted husband to look at my phone's screen on the message area, it displays 160. I wrote some lines, the display didn't change and Talks still reads 160 1. In my computer, I have a file consists of 33 words and character with spaces is 192 long. I wrote this whole file and when I'm done, I checked and it says 102 2! I texted it to my husband and he got it with no problem. My conclusion is, I can write long messages on my phone with no worries of cutting short of the words, like most people usually do. Cheers, Estelita - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message Hmm, I'm stumped. I tried the same message, set my punctuation to none, and I heard 140 1, with a little pause between the 140 and the 1. Talks won't warn you when you get to the end of the message because you'll just roll over into the next part of the message. For example, if I type a 180 character message then I'd hear 140(2). I wonder if you're running into a bug. I know you said you were running Talks 5.0, but was that 5.00.3 or 5.01.1? Also what phone and firmware are you running? I assume the number of characters actually appears on the screen. If you have any sighted help, you could see if the numbers are counting down or not. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 4:39 PM, Estelita wrote: Yes, I set the punctuation to none. Anyway, I tried it, I wrote: I reside in Britain. which consists of 20 characters, but it still says 161. I wonder if Talks will remind us if we exceed the limit? - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message That's what you'll hear if your punctuation is set to none. If you change your punctuation to all or some then you'll hear 160(1), that's "160 left paren 1 right paren". This means you have 160 characters left in the first part of of your text message. In your earlier example, your text message was 10 characters long. I wonder if it was saying 150(1) (That's with a five.) instead of 160(1) (with a 6). I'd suggest giving it another try with a slightly longer text message. See if you hear it roll over from 150 to 149. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 3:24 PM, Estelita wrote: Hi, To test it, I went to message area, without typing anything, I did the process, and Talks still says 161. By the way, there's a pause in between 160 and 1. Not sure what does it mean! Perhaps Stephen was right about the cell provider, perhaps my provider only allows me 160 characters for messaging. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message You're probably right, but I do know Talks used to handle this differently in older versions. For example, I remember when it would announce the number of remaining characters after every character you typed. 5.00.3 and 5.01.1 probably both handle it the same way though. What does it say when you press Talks followed by the long press of soft key 2 before you start typing anything? Maybe your text messages start out with 170 characters instead of 160. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 12:54 PM, Estelita wrote: Mine is version 5.0, I don't think it's due to Talks version issue. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message I tried it, and Talks says 150(1). I'm running Talks 5.01.1 on and E71X. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 11:25 AM, Estelita wrote: Hi, I tried this process, I only wrote: hi it's me, and Talks says, "161", is this right? I can't believe it!!! - Original Message - From: "Brad Keller" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message While you are in the open message do a talks then long press of soft key 2 and that should give you what you want. - Original Message - From: "Carin Headrick" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:37 AM Subject: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message Hi. I'm sorry to ask this question again, but since the archive isn't searchable, I don't have a hope in hell of finding the answer in there. Is there a way of checking how many characters you have written in a text? Say you're writing a tweet and you want to know if you've reached 140 characters. I thought someone h
Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message
Are you saying that when you were typing in a message on your phone, your sighted husband was saying the display was saying 160 and it wasn't changing? If so, that sounds like a bug in the software on the phone. If it's important to you, you may want to see if there's an update for your phone. Also, did you say that you entered a long message of around 192 characters and Talks told you you had 102(2) characters left? That sounds like the character count is getting updated, although I'd expect it to say 128(2). Finally, are you saying that most people have to worry about sending long messages? If so, that isn't the case any more. Most carriers and text messaging programs will just concatinate your messages together to create a longer message. That's why you're hearing things like 160(1) and 102(2). The number in parenthesis indicates how many parts there are to your message. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/2/2010 10:13 AM, Estelita wrote: Hi Christopher, I have done some expermentation on this dilemma and found an interesting result! By the way, I am using N86, with Talks and zooms V premium 5.00.3. I asked my sighted husband to look at my phone's screen on the message area, it displays 160. I wrote some lines, the display didn't change and Talks still reads 160 1. In my computer, I have a file consists of 33 words and character with spaces is 192 long. I wrote this whole file and when I'm done, I checked and it says 102 2! I texted it to my husband and he got it with no problem. My conclusion is, I can write long messages on my phone with no worries of cutting short of the words, like most people usually do. Cheers, Estelita - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message Hmm, I'm stumped. I tried the same message, set my punctuation to none, and I heard 140 1, with a little pause between the 140 and the 1. Talks won't warn you when you get to the end of the message because you'll just roll over into the next part of the message. For example, if I type a 180 character message then I'd hear 140(2). I wonder if you're running into a bug. I know you said you were running Talks 5.0, but was that 5.00.3 or 5.01.1? Also what phone and firmware are you running? I assume the number of characters actually appears on the screen. If you have any sighted help, you could see if the numbers are counting down or not. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 4:39 PM, Estelita wrote: Yes, I set the punctuation to none. Anyway, I tried it, I wrote: I reside in Britain. which consists of 20 characters, but it still says 161. I wonder if Talks will remind us if we exceed the limit? - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message That's what you'll hear if your punctuation is set to none. If you change your punctuation to all or some then you'll hear 160(1), that's "160 left paren 1 right paren". This means you have 160 characters left in the first part of of your text message. In your earlier example, your text message was 10 characters long. I wonder if it was saying 150(1) (That's with a five.) instead of 160(1) (with a 6). I'd suggest giving it another try with a slightly longer text message. See if you hear it roll over from 150 to 149. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 3:24 PM, Estelita wrote: Hi, To test it, I went to message area, without typing anything, I did the process, and Talks still says 161. By the way, there's a pause in between 160 and 1. Not sure what does it mean! Perhaps Stephen was right about the cell provider, perhaps my provider only allows me 160 characters for messaging. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message You're probably right, but I do know Talks used to handle this differently in older versions. For example, I remember when it would announce the number of remaining characters after every character you typed. 5.00.3 and 5.01.1 probably both handle it the same way though. What does it say when you press Talks followed by the long press of soft key 2 before you start typing anything? Maybe your text messages start out with 170 characters instead of 160. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 12:54 PM, Estelita wrote: Mine is version 5.0, I don't think it's due to Talks version issue. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message I tried it, and Talks says 150(1). I'm running Talks 5.01.1 on and E71X.
Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message
Hi Christopher, Sorry, if I didn't explain properly to make you fully understand my last message. I wrote few lines only when my husband said that the display still 160, and number 1 is in bracket which I didn't hear because I shut off the punctuation. When I wrote the 192 characters long text, I didn't ask my husband to look at my screen, but Talks says 102 2 which I assume the 2 is in bracket. So, I got the count down then, why it was 102 when the text was 192 characters, I'm not bother, as long as my message reaches to my recipient with no problem. If I mentioned of most people shortcuts their words when texting, because that's how I receive as often. In fact, I did the same, thinking that I only have limited characters to use. My phone is working fine, so I don't need any updates as yet! Estelita - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message Are you saying that when you were typing in a message on your phone, your sighted husband was saying the display was saying 160 and it wasn't changing? If so, that sounds like a bug in the software on the phone. If it's important to you, you may want to see if there's an update for your phone. Also, did you say that you entered a long message of around 192 characters and Talks told you you had 102(2) characters left? That sounds like the character count is getting updated, although I'd expect it to say 128(2). Finally, are you saying that most people have to worry about sending long messages? If so, that isn't the case any more. Most carriers and text messaging programs will just concatinate your messages together to create a longer message. That's why you're hearing things like 160(1) and 102(2). The number in parenthesis indicates how many parts there are to your message. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/2/2010 10:13 AM, Estelita wrote: Hi Christopher, I have done some expermentation on this dilemma and found an interesting result! By the way, I am using N86, with Talks and zooms V premium 5.00.3. I asked my sighted husband to look at my phone's screen on the message area, it displays 160. I wrote some lines, the display didn't change and Talks still reads 160 1. In my computer, I have a file consists of 33 words and character with spaces is 192 long. I wrote this whole file and when I'm done, I checked and it says 102 2! I texted it to my husband and he got it with no problem. My conclusion is, I can write long messages on my phone with no worries of cutting short of the words, like most people usually do. Cheers, Estelita - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message Hmm, I'm stumped. I tried the same message, set my punctuation to none, and I heard 140 1, with a little pause between the 140 and the 1. Talks won't warn you when you get to the end of the message because you'll just roll over into the next part of the message. For example, if I type a 180 character message then I'd hear 140(2). I wonder if you're running into a bug. I know you said you were running Talks 5.0, but was that 5.00.3 or 5.01.1? Also what phone and firmware are you running? I assume the number of characters actually appears on the screen. If you have any sighted help, you could see if the numbers are counting down or not. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 4:39 PM, Estelita wrote: Yes, I set the punctuation to none. Anyway, I tried it, I wrote: I reside in Britain. which consists of 20 characters, but it still says 161. I wonder if Talks will remind us if we exceed the limit? - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message That's what you'll hear if your punctuation is set to none. If you change your punctuation to all or some then you'll hear 160(1), that's "160 left paren 1 right paren". This means you have 160 characters left in the first part of of your text message. In your earlier example, your text message was 10 characters long. I wonder if it was saying 150(1) (That's with a five.) instead of 160(1) (with a 6). I'd suggest giving it another try with a slightly longer text message. See if you hear it roll over from 150 to 149. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 11/1/2010 3:24 PM, Estelita wrote: Hi, To test it, I went to message area, without typing anything, I did the process, and Talks still says 161. By the way, there's a pause in between 160 and 1. Not sure what does it mean! Perhaps Stephen was right about the cell provider, perhaps my provider only allows me 160 characters for messaging. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Ch
Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message
Actually the original intent of this discussion was with regard Twitter, which does have a character limit. How it deviated to text messages in general, I'll never fully understand. Dave Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California - Original Message - From: "Estelita" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 09:28 Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message Hi Christopher, Sorry, if I didn't explain properly to make you fully understand my last message. I wrote few lines only when my husband said that the display still 160, and number 1 is in bracket which I didn't hear because I shut off the punctuation. When I wrote the 192 characters long text, I didn't ask my husband to look at my screen, but Talks says 102 2 which I assume the 2 is in bracket. So, I got the count down then, why it was 102 when the text was 192 characters, I'm not bother, as long as my message reaches to my recipient with no problem. If I mentioned of most people shortcuts their words when texting, because that's how I receive as often. In fact, I did the same, thinking that I only have limited characters to use. My phone is working fine, so I don't need any updates as yet! Estelita - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message > Are you saying that when you were typing in a message on your phone, your > sighted husband was saying the display was saying 160 and it wasn't > changing? If so, that sounds like a bug in the software on the phone. If > it's important to you, you may want to see if there's an update for your > phone. > > Also, did you say that you entered a long message of around 192 characters > and Talks told you you had 102(2) characters left? That sounds like the > character count is getting updated, although I'd expect it to say 128(2). > > Finally, are you saying that most people have to worry about sending long > messages? If so, that isn't the case any more. Most carriers and text > messaging programs will just concatinate your messages together to create > a longer message. That's why you're hearing things like 160(1) and 102(2). > The number in parenthesis indicates how many parts there are to your > message. > > -- > > Christopher > chalt...@gmail.com > > > On 11/2/2010 10:13 AM, Estelita wrote: >> Hi Christopher, >> I have done some expermentation on this dilemma and found an interesting >> result! >> By the way, I am using N86, with Talks and zooms V premium 5.00.3. >> I asked my sighted husband to look at my phone's screen on the message >> area, it displays 160. I wrote some lines, the display didn't change and >> Talks still reads 160 1. >> In my computer, I have a file consists of 33 words and character with >> spaces is 192 long. >> I wrote this whole file and when I'm done, I checked and it says 102 2! >> I texted it to my husband and he got it with no problem. >> My conclusion is, I can write long messages on my phone with no worries >> of cutting short of the words, like most people usually do. >> Cheers, >> >> Estelita >> >> - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" >> >> To: "Talks Mailing List" >> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message >> >> >>> Hmm, I'm stumped. I tried the same message, set my punctuation to none, >>> and I heard 140 1, with a little pause between the 140 and the 1. Talks >>> won't warn you when you get to the end of the message because you'll >>> just >>> roll over into the next part of the message. For example, if I type a >>> 180 >>> character message then I'd hear 140(2). >>> >>> I wonder if you're running into a bug. I know you said you were running >>> Talks 5.0, but was that 5.00.3 or 5.01.1? Also what phone and firmware >>> are >>> you running? I assume the number of characters actually appears on the >>> screen. If you have any sighted help, you could see if the numbers are >>> counting down or not. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Christopher >>> chalt...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On 11/1/2010 4:39 PM, Estelita wrote: Yes, I set the punctuation to none. Anyway, I tried it, I wrote: I reside in Britain. which consists of 20 characters, but it still says 161. I wonder if Talks will remind us if we exceed the limit? - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message > That's what you'll hear if your punctuation is set to none. If you > change your punctuation to all or some then you'll hear 160(1), that's > "160 left paren 1 right paren". This means you have 160 characters > left > in the first part of of your text message. > > I
