Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint
2011/7/15 Zsolt Bertalan : > No, I see it as a tourism feature. I don't want to introduce a new > namespace. The other tag (hiking_checkpoint=yes) is only needed in the rare > case if we already have a tourism tag. I agree to the others: don't propose 2 tags for the same thing. As you say, stamping points (or hiking checkpoints) will usually / often be related to touristic features. This is IMHO the reason why "tourism" is not suitable as a key for them: they will already be represented by a feature with a tourism key (e.g. attraction). cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint
Oh, Gawd! I think you are right. So my newest proposal :) would be: checkpoint=hiking or cycling or whatever else and instead of hiking_course=value course=value? Zsolt On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:52 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/7/15 Zsolt Bertalan : > > No, I see it as a tourism feature. I don't want to introduce a new > > namespace. The other tag (hiking_checkpoint=yes) is only needed in the > rare > > case if we already have a tourism tag. > > > I agree to the others: don't propose 2 tags for the same thing. As you > say, stamping points (or hiking checkpoints) will usually / often be > related to touristic features. This is IMHO the reason why "tourism" > is not suitable as a key for them: they will already be represented by > a feature with a tourism key (e.g. attraction). > > cheers, > Martin > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [sharedmapau] Mapping surveyed marks
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:33 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 11 July 2011 21:24, Franc Carter wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:19 PM, John Smith >> wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone been tagging these from Nearmap imagery or even on the ground? >> >> I'd like to knwo how to recognise/nterpret them - seems very useful to have >> a point we know to higher accuracy > > They're not hard to spot, I've seen them from residential areas to > along highways: > > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-23.585605,148.825851&z=21&t=k&nmd=20110505 Seeming I'm interested in the tagging of such features and it seems there is no or little existing clear usage, I'm putting forward my ideas/thoughts. I'm trying to keep in line with http://www.lpma.nsw.gov.au/survey_and_maps/scims_online/glossary and existing tags. So we keep man_made=survey_point, but we also add additional, survey_point:type=mapping_control_point survey_point:type=cadastral_reference_mark survey_point:type=geodetic_bench_mark survey_point:type=miscellaneous_survey_mark survey_point:type=permanent_mark survey_point:type=state_survey_mark survey_point:type=trigonometrical_station I used :type in case we want to add other :foo's to survey_point, but it could be omitted, I don't care so long as it is consistent and non-ambiguous. mapping_control_point would be your marks used as ground control points (GCPs) you see from aerial imagery. (wiki currently has aerial=yes) state_survey_mark would be the 50mm diameter plates with a dot in the middle found in footpaths/gutters, etc. trigonometrical_station would be the ones with stone pillars which you can place survey equipment on top of, which sometimes also have a big black circle on top. I'm guessing geodetic_bench_mark would be a mark used to monitor plate movement, etc..? I'm guessing cadastral_reference_mark would be a white peg or something a surveyor put in the ground to mark land boundaries? For now I'm using ref:ssm= to store the id number of the state survey mark. Thoughts? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/splash_pad Please comment. Thanks, Matt___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - mark vehicles, for which restriction is operating (preparing for voting: questions)
Hello! Please, look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/mark_vehicles,_for_which_restriction_is_operating . I've prepared questions for voting - please, check them and, if you have some ideas, please, leave comments. User Dinamik ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
Le 19/07/2011 13:30, Matt a écrit : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/splash_pad Please comment. Thanks, Matt This proposal seems good in my opinion. Just why don't you recommend to tag it as area ? We sometime see some smaller buildings tagged as area, if a precise source exists I don't see why it couldn't be tagged as an area too. Otherwise, could also be a good idea list tags that can be added to define more precisely the object (width=* if it's a node, when the splash pad is open/works, age restriction if there's one...). Regards. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
I'm glad you brought this up. I recently mapped a newly opened accessible playground that includes these sorts of water features, though it includes more features than the splash pad shown in the example picture, such as fixed water guns, and this interactive water canal: http://www.flickr.com/photos/63258265@N08/5749130062/ They alternatively call this a sprayground or spraypark. I happened to use playground=spraypark: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1648182 Searching for spray and splash on TagInfo I see the following: 70: dcgis:spraypark (from an import) 6: park_type=SPRAY␣PARK 5: amenity=splash_pad 1: leisure=spray␣deck 1: leisure=splash_pad For whatever it's worth, sprayground on Wikipedia redirects to "splash pad". I think playground=splash_pad is probably a good choice, as it is applicable to the small splash pads found in some cities, as well as a component of larger playgrounds. -Josh On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Matt wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/splash_pad > > Please comment. > > Thanks, > Matt > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
On 7/19/2011 7:30 AM, Matt wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/splash_pad Looks good, except for the statement that they should only be on nodes. Here's the one that I've mapped: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/74893584 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
Wasn't sure what a "splash pad" was and it looks like it's a North American term for the British "water play area"? In keeping with the language convention we should be using the British "playground=water_play_area". It's definitely a good thing to add, but I'd usually map it as an area rather than a node Jason On 19 July 2011 12:30, Matt wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/splash_pad > > Please comment. > > Thanks, > Matt > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > checkpoint=hiking or cycling or whatever else I kind of like this, as it has scope to be used for other purposes. > and instead of hiking_course=value course=value? Still don't like "course". The term "course" is mostly associated with competitive events like racing. I think what you're describing is fundamentally no different to any other walking route, with the possible difference that the information describing the route is stored separately (ie, website, brochures, badges) rather than with signage. But that difference is easy to work into the existing hiking route scheme. (Yes, there is the issue of "super-relations", in that your "hiking course" could be described as containing other "hiking routes". I don't think that's a major concern though...) Steve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
On 07/19/2011 02:53 PM, Jason Cunningham wrote: > Wasn't sure what a "splash pad" was and it looks like it's a North > American term for the British "water play area"? We used to call them "wading pools," but then we ended up with a generation of idiot parents who think swimming pools and children still in diapers isn't a threat to public health when you mix them. Insert social commentary about common sense and vaccination rate here. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
I've modified the proposal. Thanks for the feedback. On Jul 19, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 7/19/2011 7:30 AM, Matt wrote: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/splash_pad > > Looks good, except for the statement that they should only be on nodes. > Here's the one that I've mapped: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/74893584 > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
Thanks for the feedback. There is no wikipedia entry for "water play area". I'm not sure what language convention you are referring to. Can you please explain why the British term should have precedence? Doing a quick google search, it appears the term "splashpad" is used in the U.K. Matt On Jul 19, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Jason Cunningham wrote: > Wasn't sure what a "splash pad" was and it looks like it's a North American > term for the British "water play area"? > > In keeping with the language convention we should be using the British > "playground=water_play_area". > > It's definitely a good thing to add, but I'd usually map it as an area rather > than a node > > Jason > > On 19 July 2011 12:30, Matt wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/splash_pad > > Please comment. > > Thanks, > Matt > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - playground:splash_pad
On 7/19/2011 9:54 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 07/19/2011 02:53 PM, Jason Cunningham wrote: Wasn't sure what a "splash pad" was and it looks like it's a North American term for the British "water play area"? We used to call them "wading pools," but then we ended up with a generation of idiot parents who think swimming pools and children still in diapers isn't a threat to public health when you mix them. Insert social commentary about common sense and vaccination rate here. Not the same thing. A splash pad has no standing water. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging