Re: [RE-wrenches] Measuring an RV for load
I'd get the 120 v/ 15 A adapter, your customer probably already has one, and then you can plug the Killowatt into that. Otherwise, I've made up cables with the outer jacket removed, so I can put a clamp meter on the individual hots. A third option would be to wire an old utility electric meter with the 240/ 50A plugs on either end. Ray On 11/20/2024 3:18 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote: Hi all I’ve got someone who wants to power their 5th wheel RV. Yeah yeah I know. I’m looking for a 240vac/ 50 amp measuring device kinda like a kill a watt for the RV plug. So I can get some real numbers for design. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for such a device? Thx Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Measuring an RV for load
Hi all I’ve got someone who wants to power their 5th wheel RV. Yeah yeah I know. I’m looking for a 240vac/ 50 amp measuring device kinda like a kill a watt for the RV plug. So I can get some real numbers for design. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for such a device? Thx Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Measuring an RV for load
Thx Ray. It’s not close by and I’m looking for something they can just plug and play, so they can just read it and let me know. Jay > On Nov 20, 2024, at 3:53 PM, Ray Walters via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > I'd get the 120 v/ 15 A adapter, your customer probably already has one, > and then you can plug the Killowatt into that. Otherwise, I've made up cables > with the outer jacket removed, so I can put a clamp meter on the individual > hots. A third option would be to wire an old utility electric meter with > the 240/ 50A plugs on either end. > > Ray > >> On 11/20/2024 3:18 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I’ve got someone who wants to power their 5th wheel RV. Yeah yeah I know. >> >> I’m looking for a 240vac/ 50 amp measuring device kinda like a kill a watt >> for the RV plug. >> >> So I can get some real numbers for design. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for such a device? >> >> Thx >> Jay >> >> >> >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 12 integration
Just to further clarify, the Sol-Ark would be replacing the Outback stack and Rolls batteries, not trying to integrate those. Ron earthRight Solar - Solareagle.com > On Nov 20, 2024, at 1:35 PM, solareagle--- via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > I have a Sol-Ark 12, old stock, that I’m thinking of installing at my > residence, I have 14kW grid tie with enphase micro’s but want to add some > Homegrid batteries for a backup option. I know it’s redundant to have the > micros and the Sol-Ark but I also have a separate system with nearly 4kW > off-grid, charging batteries. The off-grid part of the system is using an > Outback 3648 dual inverter stack with a 12 year old bank of 4kS25 Rolls (48v) > batteries. The Homegrid batteries would replace the Rolls so there would only > be lithium batteries in the mix. > > I’m wondering if I can integrate all these components with the Sol-Ark > successfully or am I setting myself up for some severe headaches. Are there > some legacy issues with the Sol-Ark 12 that might be a problem? Any > suggestions or Wrench experience with similar systems much appreciated. > > Ron > earthRight Solar - Solareagle.com > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 12 integration
I have a Sol-Ark 12, old stock, that I’m thinking of installing at my residence, I have 14kW grid tie with enphase micro’s but want to add some Homegrid batteries for a backup option. I know it’s redundant to have the micros and the Sol-Ark but I also have a separate system with nearly 4kW off-grid, charging batteries. The off-grid part of the system is using an Outback 3648 dual inverter stack with a 12 year old bank of 4kS25 Rolls (48v) batteries. The Homegrid batteries would replace the Rolls so there would only be lithium batteries in the mix. I’m wondering if I can integrate all these components with the Sol-Ark successfully or am I setting myself up for some severe headaches. Are there some legacy issues with the Sol-Ark 12 that might be a problem? Any suggestions or Wrench experience with similar systems much appreciated. Ron earthRight Solar - Solareagle.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 12 integration
Ron Afternoon. Saw your post. We just did something similar. Call me. 678 525 0468 Peter Giroux American Solar Thx peter -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of solareagle--- via RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 4:35 PM To: RE-wrenches Cc: solarea...@solareagle.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 12 integration I have a Sol-Ark 12, old stock, that I’m thinking of installing at my residence, I have 14kW grid tie with enphase micro’s but want to add some Homegrid batteries for a backup option. I know it’s redundant to have the micros and the Sol-Ark but I also have a separate system with nearly 4kW off-grid, charging batteries. The off-grid part of the system is using an Outback 3648 dual inverter stack with a 12 year old bank of 4kS25 Rolls (48v) batteries. The Homegrid batteries would replace the Rolls so there would only be lithium batteries in the mix. I’m wondering if I can integrate all these components with the Sol-Ark successfully or am I setting myself up for some severe headaches. Are there some legacy issues with the Sol-Ark 12 that might be a problem? Any suggestions or Wrench experience with similar systems much appreciated. Ron earthRight Solar - Solareagle.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Measuring an RV for load
I’ve been drooling over the Fluke 1732 Power Measurement Logger for the past few year but can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money. Have any wrenchers used it? Jay, it looks like there is a product called the Power Watchdog PWD50EPO that is specifically designed for RVs and acts as a surge protector. The device has Bluetooth capability and also monitors power characteristics (volts, amps, kW, kWh). It sounds like this is what you are looking for. Around $300 Kindly, Chris On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 7:05 PM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Thx Ray. > > It’s not close by and I’m looking for something they can just plug and > play, so they can just read it and let me know. > > > > Jay > > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 3:53 PM, Ray Walters via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > > > I'd get the 120 v/ 15 A adapter, your customer probably already has > one, and then you can plug the Killowatt into that. Otherwise, I've made up > cables with the outer jacket removed, so I can put a clamp meter on the > individual hots. A third option would be to wire an old utility electric > meter with the 240/ 50A plugs on either end. > > > > Ray > > > >> On 11/20/2024 3:18 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote: > >> Hi all > >> > >> I’ve got someone who wants to power their 5th wheel RV. Yeah yeah I > know. > >> > >> I’m looking for a 240vac/ 50 amp measuring device kinda like a kill a > watt for the RV plug. > >> > >> So I can get some real numbers for design. > >> > >> Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for such a device? > >> > >> Thx > >> Jay > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > >> > >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > >> > >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > >> > >> Change listserver email address & settings: > >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >> > >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try > the other: > >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >> > >> List rules & etiquette: > >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > >> > >> Check out or update participant bios: > >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > >> > > ___ > > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > > > Change listserver email address & settings: > > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try > the other: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > > > List rules & etiquette: > > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > > > Check out or update participant bios: > > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 12 integration
Ron What is the primary goal? To get more power on your loads? To get more grid export? I have installed a bunch of outback products and you can’t beat the surge capacity and longevity. As you well know. Solark has an excellent grid zero feature with CTs. Outback and Solark both will work with the HomeGrid batteries. Solark will be closed loop and outback will be just fine open loop. Do you have a generator in the mix? Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006 Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. • Solar Commander Remote Power • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection maver...@mavericksolar.com 512-460-9825 > On Nov 20, 2024, at 6:30 PM, solareagle--- via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > Just to further clarify, the Sol-Ark would be replacing the Outback stack > and Rolls batteries, not trying to integrate those. > > Ron > earthRight Solar - Solareagle.com > >> On Nov 20, 2024, at 1:35 PM, solareagle--- via RE-wrenches >> wrote: >> >> I have a Sol-Ark 12, old stock, that I’m thinking of installing at my >> residence, I have 14kW grid tie with enphase micro’s but want to add some >> Homegrid batteries for a backup option. I know it’s redundant to have the >> micros and the Sol-Ark but I also have a separate system with nearly 4kW >> off-grid, charging batteries. The off-grid part of the system is using an >> Outback 3648 dual inverter stack with a 12 year old bank of 4kS25 Rolls >> (48v) batteries. The Homegrid batteries would replace the Rolls so there >> would only be lithium batteries in the mix. >> >> I’m wondering if I can integrate all these components with the Sol-Ark >> successfully or am I setting myself up for some severe headaches. Are there >> some legacy issues with the Sol-Ark 12 that might be a problem? Any >> suggestions or Wrench experience with similar systems much appreciated. >> >> Ron >> earthRight Solar - Solareagle.com >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Measuring an RV for load
Wrenches, Jay, E guage will do that, plus more, great tool for all kinds of energy usage testing. Fun times. On Wed, Nov 20, 2024, 2:19 PM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi all > > I’ve got someone who wants to power their 5th wheel RV. Yeah yeah I know. > > I’m looking for a 240vac/ 50 amp measuring device kinda like a kill a watt > for the RV plug. > > So I can get some real numbers for design. > > Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations for such a device? > > Thx > Jay > > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
