Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress remote monitoring
Here is an official communication from Fortress that we received recently when inquiring about monitoring Fortress batteries as an Installer. Some of you may find the info relevant. -- Forwarded message - From: Date: Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 12:37 PM Subject: Re:[## 5635 ##] Remote Monitoring Access To: -@---.com Hi -, As of right now, the Guardian app is designed to be used by the end user only and does not have "fleet management" capabilities as you have described. This is a highly demanded feature so we are working on getting this added by Q2 2024. If you would like to view the info from their Guardian, you can use their login info and log in using their credentials on your phone. Best, - -- Applications Engineer II Fortress Power ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress remote monitoring
Yep, I found this out when I installed my first Fortress Evault / Envy inverter combo last month. What was also a bit different at first is the fact there are -2- different apps: the Guardian gateway app and the Envy inverter app. I bought the guardian thinking it was the only way to see the system remotely, but this is not true IF you've installed the Envy inverter also. The limitation of no "fleet" monitoring is puzzling. But now I'm glad there's a unique app for the inverter. The inverter app is much more detailed and allows most parameters to be tweaked remotely. The Guardian app id for basic system monitoring only. So the single-user per app has worked out OK. My customer uses the at-a-glance Guardian app, and I use the Envy app for more detailed monitoring and programming. On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 12:11 PM Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Here is an official communication from Fortress that we received recently > when inquiring about monitoring Fortress batteries as an Installer. Some > of you may find the info relevant. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: > Date: Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 12:37 PM > Subject: Re:[## 5635 ##] Remote Monitoring Access > To: -@---.com > > > Hi -, > > As of right now, the Guardian app is designed to be used by the end user > only and does not have "fleet management" capabilities as you have > described. This is a highly demanded feature so we are working on getting > this added by Q2 2024. > > If you would like to view the info from their Guardian, you can use their > login info and log in using their credentials on your phone. > > Best, > - -- > Applications Engineer II > Fortress Power > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* *Celebrating our 33st Anniversary 1991-2024!!* dba Vermont Solar Engineering 802.559.1225 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress remote monitoring
Friends: The Guardian app does not provide any historical data. Fortress says they are working on that. They claim that on request they can provide historical data but the one time I asked there was an hours-long gap in the data at the exact time I needed. Maybe Rose Mary Woods’ incarnation is working for them. William Miller Solar 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com CA Lic. 773985 *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2023 9:40 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Cc:* Kirk Herander *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress remote monitoring Yep, I found this out when I installed my first Fortress Evault / Envy inverter combo last month. What was also a bit different at first is the fact there are -2- different apps: the Guardian gateway app and the Envy inverter app. I bought the guardian thinking it was the only way to see the system remotely, but this is not true IF you've installed the Envy inverter also. The limitation of no "fleet" monitoring is puzzling. But now I'm glad there's a unique app for the inverter. The inverter app is much more detailed and allows most parameters to be tweaked remotely. The Guardian app id for basic system monitoring only. So the single-user per app has worked out OK. My customer uses the at-a-glance Guardian app, and I use the Envy app for more detailed monitoring and programming. On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 12:11 PM Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: Here is an official communication from Fortress that we received recently when inquiring about monitoring Fortress batteries as an Installer. Some of you may find the info relevant. -- Forwarded message - From: Date: Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 12:37 PM Subject: Re:[## 5635 ##] Remote Monitoring Access To: -@---.com Hi -, As of right now, the Guardian app is designed to be used by the end user only and does not have "fleet management" capabilities as you have described. This is a highly demanded feature so we are working on getting this added by Q2 2024. If you would like to view the info from their Guardian, you can use their login info and log in using their credentials on your phone. Best, - -- Applications Engineer II Fortress Power ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* *Celebrating our 33st Anniversary 1991-2024!!* dba Vermont Solar Engineering 802.559.1225 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Magnum 4448 PAE whimpy charge rate.
I have noticed on several Magnum Installations that the charge rate is low compared to the inverter rated output. Typically I would assume the charge rate should be up to about 70 to 80 % of the inverter capacity, but I am getting only about 1400 watts (26 amps DC) from it with a 14kw generator. Is there some setting I am missing that would limit it other than the charge %. I know of one system where they added a 2nd Magnum inverter and then had problems with them working together consistently. I have used the 8 kilowatt Radians for any off grid with significant loads and battery capacity and easily get 6000 charging watts from a large generator. I also needed remote control of the generator (Generac EcoGen 15 kw so a quick inexpensive but clunky solution I came up with was to add an old (2003 vintage) used MX-60 to the system purely to use the Aux relay with a used HUB and old but good Mate3. Works perfectly giving us AGS start and stop voltage settings and basic battery voltage graph. I would be interested in other ways to remote control generators with non Outback inverters. FlexNet DC? John Blittersdorf ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum 4448 PAE whimpy charge rate.
John I would try the Victron Cerbo GX for remote control of stuff. It has plethora of ports (I/O and temperature) and they can connect to lots of different devices, especially other Victron items like inverters and charge controllers and smart shunts (that one I’d also add to the Cerbo right away for SOC). 1. Cerbo GX 2. SmartShunt 500 amp Battery Monitor (Bluetooth) 3. Temperature sensor BMV-702/712 for the shunt. 4. VE.direct cable of correct length to go from Cerbo to SmartShunt Cerbo GX connects to the internet via wired or wireless internet ports provided. They have a cellular modem add on as well. Victron offers a VRM virtual remote monitoring via the web. Maverick Brown Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006 Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. • Solar Commander Remote Power • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection maver...@mavericksolar.com 512-460-9825 > On Dec 6, 2023, at 8:08 PM, John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > > I have noticed on several Magnum Installations that the charge rate is low > compared to the inverter rated output. Typically I would assume the charge > rate should be up to about 70 to 80 % of the inverter capacity, but I am > getting only about 1400 watts (26 amps DC) from it with a 14kw generator. Is > there some setting I am missing that would limit it other than the charge %. > I know of one system where they added a 2nd Magnum inverter and then had > problems with them working together consistently. I have used the 8 kilowatt > Radians for any off grid with significant loads and battery capacity and > easily get 6000 charging watts from a large generator. I also needed remote > control of the generator (Generac EcoGen 15 kw so a quick inexpensive but > clunky solution I came up with was to add an old (2003 vintage) used MX-60 to > the system purely to use the Aux relay with a used HUB and old but good > Mate3. Works perfectly giving us AGS start and stop voltage settings and > basic battery voltage graph. I would be interested in other ways to remote > control generators with non Outback inverters. FlexNet DC? > > John Blittersdorf > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
