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Re: [RBW] Wheels and tires

2024-06-12 Thread Nicholas A

Interested in the VO wheels if you would ship to Ireland?

On Wednesday 12 June 2024 at 00:51:30 UTC+1 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> PM sent on the Crust wheels.
>
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> On Jun 11, 2024, at 4:34 PM, R Olson  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have some wheels and tires for sale:
>
> 1 Crust Rim brake Wheelset:  700c, 32h F/R, 23mm internal width, 
> 130mm rear spacing, Shutter Precision SV-8 dynamo front hub.  8spd 
> cassette, quick release levers and rim tape included.  Hardly used, a few 
> hundred miles.  Here’s a link to the crust webpage with more information:  
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/wheels/products/crust-randonneur-rim-brake-wheelsets
>
>Price:  $200 plus shipping.
>
>
> Velo Orange Wheelset with 43mm Gravelkings with tubes:  700c, 36h F/R, 
> V-O Voyager rim 22mm internal width, 130mm rear spacing, V-O Grand Cru rear 
> hub and V-O front hub, 9 spd cassette, handbuilt by local bike shop, 
> lightly used, again maybe a few hundred miles.
>
> Webpage for Voyager rims:  
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/rims/products/voyager-rim?variant=14408204484657
>
> Webpage for V-O front hub:  
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/hubs/products/front-hub-silver-and-noir?variant=31842034942089
>
>  Price:  $200 plus shipping.
>
>
> Two 50mm Schwalbe Marathons tires.  Maybe fifty miles on them. 
>
> Price: $50 plus shipping for both.
>
>
>  Two WTB Vigilante Tough 2.5 inch tires.  I put these on and rode around 
> the block.  They weren’t what I was looking for.  Pretty heavy FYI.
>
> Price:  $40 plus shipping for both.
>  
>
> Here are some photos:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/qwL1zzyjB4W1vyrs7
>
> Paypal or Venmo will work.
>
> Thanks for looking,
>  
>
> Ryan
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[RBW] Filson and BXB

2024-06-12 Thread Ryan Mulcahy

Hi, all, lowering the price of this BagsXBird Teardrop to $90, shipped 
USPS, and adding a Filson tin cloth briefcase. This is MUSA -- I'm not sure 
they are anymore -- and costs $395 new. Mine has a little bit of a normal 
wear but I haven't used it very much -- switched to mostly working from 
home -- and is in good shape. $225, shipped USPS

tires also still for sale: $35, .shipped USPS

Venmo or check. 

thanks for looking!

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-12 Thread Mathias Steiner

I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from 
recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even 
sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.

JP:
I'm full up with bikes so I resisted, but the bronzey green Sams look 
fantastic and really tempted me. 

Ted,
Like I said the bag "looks great" but of course you're right and I change 
my vote:

>> a bit too reminiscent of Minnesota Vikings color 

...not to mention the colors of the  University of Michigan [spits on 
floor]!

cheers -mathias

in East Lansing, home of Michigan State :)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 11:08:58 PM UTC-4 jinxed wrote:

> SO SO bummed I missed out on the 54s. These really hit the sweet spot on 
> the Riv ruler for me. 
>
> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:46:29 PM UTC-6 MoVelo wrote:
>
>> I'm getting the bronzy green version Sam and am pretty excited. Moving 
>> most of the parts from my Bridgestone T700 over which are mostly classic 
>> silver finish. I've been researching traditional Rivendell elf costumes and 
>> color schemes for some inspiration for *accoutrements and could use help 
>> and suggestions. Maybe they are obvious and I'm just not seeing them. *
>>
>> Cheers
>> JP in PH  
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:28:07 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:32:15 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>> Nay.
>>> It looks great, but a roll top has no place on a handlebar bag.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I was asking more about aesthetics than about functionality. I 
>>> have a few different handlebar bags with conventional rear-opening tops and 
>>> I am pretty frequently in there mid-ride for snacks or clothing changes. I 
>>> also have a couple of Dark Realm basket bags that are roll-tops and I 
>>> appreciate their ability to grow in volume as needed. For a handlebar bag, 
>>> though, I'm inclined to agree that a roll top isn't ideal, both because the 
>>> access while riding isn't great and because a bag mounted on a Nitto F-15 
>>> or F-19A rack doesn't have a lot of weight capacity, and the roll top 
>>> invites overloading.
>>>
>>> Still interested in people's opinions on yellow in combination with 
>>> periwinkle. I sold a purple Co-Motion tandem to some friends, and she, an 
>>> art teacher, immediately went to yellow for cable housing and bar tape. 
>>> It's quite sharp, though here in Wisconsin it's a bit too reminiscent of 
>>> Minnesota Vikings colors. 
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>>  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-06-12 Thread Richard Rose

What Valerie says precisely. Susie / Gus bikes are mountain bikes. “Hillibike” is clever & cute but does not do them justice, in my humble opinion. It’s confusing because you can ride them for other duties but.., if you have tires that optimize a Gus/Susie for MTB use, it’s not fantastic on pavement. That said I do not hesitate to ride my Gus to the trail or use it for gravel or bikepacking trips. But if dirt is not a big part of my ride I take my Clem. BTW, a riding friend just bought a used Sam - it was Rich Lesnik’s bike from Riv! It’s a beauty & a 26” bike. We did a Sub24 mostly gravel bikepacking trip. He on his Sam, I on my Clem. He was loving the Sam. But he does not do MTB.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 12, 2024, at 12:30 AM, Valerie Yates wrote:I have both and consider them very different bikes. With the right tires, you can definitely ride your Appa on dirt and trails. It is my choice for loaded tours and scenic rides. The Susie has a very different feel to me. The tires can go much bigger and somehow its geometry makes me feel much more confident taking it on trails with more variable terrain. Downhills are a blast. But it is not my ride around town choice. To me, the Susie is the ultimate rigid mountain bike. It is big and bouncy and fun. If I could only have one, I consider the Appa more versatile. But it is mighty nice to have both. If you are on the fence, start taking your Appa on trails for now and see if you want a more dirt-oriented bike. Best,Val in Boulder CO On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:35:30 PM UTC-6 Matthew Williams wrote:Can someone who’s ridden both bikes tell me: what’s the difference, between the Susie and the Appaloosa? I’d like to start riding more dirt and trails—but no crazy fast stuff or jumps—and I’m wondering if I should get a Susie or just stick with my Appaloosa.

Does the Susie have better clearance, geometry, and/or strength to make it a better choice for dirt and trails? Or is the Susie similar enough to the Appaloosa that I won’t notice the difference?

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

2024-06-12 Thread Brian Forsee

You can also use your knee under the saddle and push raise the bike up with 
one leg while having both hands on the bars. One hand on saddle one on bars 
works well also.

Brian

On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:47:05 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:

> Whoa whoa whoa! The saddle is not IN my pants ma’am!
> My waistband functions like a handle kinda. Best if wearing jeans.
> Otherwise just use my abdomen to help push the bike up. 
> I knew this would read poorly LOL! 
>
> On Jun 11, 2024, at 18:40, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> I was with you until the saddle was in my pants! What?!?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 11, 2024, at 9:24 PM, lucky...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
> This is how I do it, Leah. Grab the brake levers, stand kind of behind it, 
> pull the front wheel up and then release the rear brake lever just enough 
> that the back end can roll forward until the bike is getting vertical. Stop 
> that action when you’re about to catch the fender on the ground. Squat down 
> and catch the waistband of your pants under the seat and stand up using 
> your abdomen/pant waistband to lift the whole bike up. 
>
> On Jun 11, 2024, at 18:20, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Ok, ok, I gotcha…and pinching the fenders would make me ill. This is such 
> a good idea. So one Irish strap or a Voile strap should do the trick? But 
> how, pray tell, does one even get their bike to stand vertical?! I lift it 
> overhead every day to hang it on the top of my D’vinci rack, but I’ve never 
> done vertical. Will the train guy help?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 11, 2024, at 9:06 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>
> Here it is! It gives just enough clearance to fully lift the rear wheel 
> and fender off the ground.
> 
>
>
> Collin, back in Berkeley
>
> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 4:26:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh yes, please send that photo! 🙏
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 7:22 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>>
>> I take my 51 Joe Appaloosa on the west coast Amtrak a couple times a 
>> week. I’m not sure about the wheelbase differences with a 55 Platy, but no 
>> one on Amtrak is there with a tape measure checking lengths before you hop 
>> on.
>>
>>
>> The bike is objectively “too long” to fit perfectly on the bike racks. The 
>> “hack” to actually get the bike mounted off the ground and not off kilter 
>> is to tie an Irish strap to the upper railing and use that to joist the 
>> bike up a couple inches. This also saves the fenders from getting pinched. 
>>
>> I’ll get a photo when I hop off the train today.
>> Collin “2 hour working commuter” in Dixon at this moment
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 11:31:26 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is 
>>> too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are 
>>> rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
>>> would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
>>> the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
>>> know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>>>
>>> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
>>> know. 
>>>
>>> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
>>> that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
>>> wheels with the 42mm tires!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wheels and tires

2024-06-12 Thread ryan . trent . olson

Wow, Ireland.  No, sorry, I don’t want to ship internationally.  It would probably cost more to ship it than the wheels themselves and it would take a really long time to get there.Thanks,RyanSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 12, 2024, at 4:41 AM, Nicholas A  wrote:Interested in the VO wheels if you would ship to Ireland?On Wednesday 12 June 2024 at 00:51:30 UTC+1 campyo...@me.com wrote:PM sent on the Crust wheels.
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On Jun 11, 2024, at 4:34 PM, R Olson  wrote:Hi All,I have some wheels and tires for sale:1     Crust Rim brake Wheelset:  700c, 32h F/R, 23mm internal width, 130mm
rear spacing, Shutter Precision SV-8 dynamo front hub.  8spd cassette, quick release levers and rim
tape included.  Hardly used, a few
hundred miles.  Here’s a link to the
crust webpage with more information:  https://crustbikes.com/collections/wheels/products/crust-randonneur-rim-brake-wheelsets       Price: 
$200 plus shipping.Velo Orange Wheelset with 43mm Gravelkings with
tubes:  700c, 36h F/R, V-O Voyager rim
22mm internal width, 130mm rear spacing, V-O Grand Cru rear hub and V-O front
hub, 9 spd cassette, handbuilt by local bike shop, lightly used, again maybe a
few hundred miles.Webpage for Voyager rims:  https://velo-orange.com/collections/rims/products/voyager-rim?variant=14408204484657Webpage for V-O front hub:  https://velo-orange.com/collections/hubs/products/front-hub-silver-and-noir?variant=31842034942089 Price:  $200 plus shipping.Two 50mm Schwalbe Marathons tires.  Maybe fifty miles on them. Price: $50 plus shipping for both. Two WTB Vigilante Tough 2.5 inch tires.  I put these on and rode around the
block.  They weren’t what I was looking
for.  Pretty heavy FYI.Price: 
$40 plus shipping for both. Here are some photos:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/qwL1zzyjB4W1vyrs7Paypal or Venmo will work.Thanks for looking, Ryan

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[RBW] Re: revisted topic: plestcher double leg kickstands (not) fitting on rivs

2024-06-12 Thread ian m

"Blue Lug putting incompatible products on their builds" is a weird 
comment, especially given these bikes are made with kickstand plates and 
should then theoretically be designed around them working. I'm surprised 
there are issues with Clems and double kickstands, I used one on my 1st gen 
Clem H for years with 48mm tires, the extra long chainstays pushed the tire 
back beyond the curve of the kickstand and there was like acres of empty 
space around it. I guess the geometry changed some since then.That double 
Pletscher is now on my wife's Hillborne, and while it does sometimes hit 
the tire when folding up otherwise has no rub and it's her daily commuter.

On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 9:51:25 PM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> Thank you for that info! Direct from the source at that. Kind of annoying 
> Blue Lug is putting incompatible products on their builds, and so many of 
> them, as it led me to believe there was a real solution. 
>
> Kickstand won't be for mounting and dismounting the kid, he's actually 5 
> so im hoping with a quick boost he'll get on on his own. I'm using the Yepp 
> Budget which is a version of the next seat after the Yepp Maxi like you 
> have on there. I just like a kickstand and prefer a double. If necessary 
> i'll get a big boy and donate this one to another bike. 
>
> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:26:25 AM UTC-4 Frakern wrote:
>
>> Blue Lug put a double stand on our Clem Smith Jr when we bought it 
>> through them. After a while it would rub on the tires when we had fatter 
>> tires on it. As I recall when I took it back to Blue Lug and they adjusted 
>> it by rotating it slightly and tightening down the bolts. But they said it 
>> would eventually shift back and start rubbing again so this would need to 
>> be done every once in a while. In the end I filed down the legs a bit with 
>> a metal file where it was rubbing to try to give it more clearance. 
>>
>> Be aware though that if you're having a child carrier on the back rack 
>> the bike won't be stable even with the plestcher double. At least for us, 
>> the balance of the bike was such that with a child on the back seat the 
>> bike would lean on the back wheel with the front wheel in the air and be 
>> unstable. Without a child on the back seat the bike rests with the front 
>> wheel down and the back wheel up. We ended up getting a different stand 
>> that I can't recall the name of at the moment that was much larger and 
>> folded out more in a v shape towards the front of the bike that made it 
>> more stable. But as our son got older and heavier, the stand mount on the 
>> bike started to bend and wear out. So be careful. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20231130_045249926.jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 2:44:25 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>>> I tried this sometime a year or two ago. 
>>>
>>> I am very close to finishing up a clem L that will be a dedicated kid 
>>> carrier (think mamafiet) with spoke protector, yepp budget seat, etc.
>>>
>>> i had a spare plestcher kickstand hanging around and wanted to get it on 
>>> the bike. i KNOW blue lug does this, and it really doesn't matter the size 
>>> tire. mine are not even close to maxed out on the bike and im still getting 
>>> the dreaded rub (got the same on my country appaloosa) 
>>>
>>> does anyone have any experience wit this? has anyone asked blue lug how 
>>> they do it? I am not a huge fan of single leggers and i don't really wan to 
>>> spend money on a different kickstand ( but i will) 
>>>
>>> i'd love to get the one i have working. but am curious as to a sure fire 
>>> way to do so. before anyone suggests, i've aready reached out to riv. they 
>>> don't have any real solutions. but i know one exists. im determined.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> michael
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

2024-06-12 Thread Leah Peterson

Ok. I’m going home after work to practice and then lay in bed all night agonizing over it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 12, 2024, at 9:26 AM, Brian Forsee wrote:You can also use your knee under the saddle and push raise the bike up with one leg while having both hands on the bars. One hand on saddle one on bars works well also.BrianOn Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:47:05 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:Whoa whoa whoa! The saddle is not IN my pants ma’am!My waistband functions like a handle kinda. Best if wearing jeans.Otherwise just use my abdomen to help push the bike up. I knew this would read poorly LOL! On Jun 11, 2024, at 18:40, Leah Peterson wrote:I was with you until the saddle was in my pants! What?!?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 9:24 PM, lucky...@gmail.com wrote:This is how I do it, Leah. Grab the brake levers, stand kind of behind it, pull the front wheel up and then release the rear brake lever just enough that the back end can roll forward until the bike is getting vertical. Stop that action when you’re about to catch the fender on the ground. Squat down and catch the waistband of your pants under the seat and stand up using your abdomen/pant waistband to lift the whole bike up. On Jun 11, 2024, at 18:20, Leah Peterson wrote:Ok, ok, I gotcha…and pinching the fenders would make me ill. This is such a good idea. So one Irish strap or a Voile strap should do the trick? But how, pray tell, does one even get their bike to stand vertical?! I lift it overhead every day to hang it on the top of my D’vinci rack, but I’ve never done vertical. Will the train guy help?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 9:06 PM, Collin A wrote:Here it is! It gives just enough clearance to fully lift the rear wheel and fender off the ground.Collin, back in BerkeleyOn Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 4:26:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Oh yes, please send that photo! 🙏Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 7:22 PM, Collin A wrote:I take my 51 Joe Appaloosa on the west coast Amtrak a couple times a week. I’m not sure about the wheelbase differences with a 55 Platy, but no one on Amtrak is there with a tape measure checking lengths before you hop on.The bike is objectively “too long” to fit perfectly on the bike racks. The “hack” to actually get the bike mounted off the ground and not off kilter is to tie an Irish strap to the upper railing and use that to joist the bike up a couple inches. This also saves the fenders from getting pinched. I’ll get a photo when I hop off the train today.Collin “2 hour working commuter” in Dixon at this momentOn Monday, June 10, 2024 at 11:31:26 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t know what the setup is inside the train cars. If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me know. Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c wheels with the 42mm tires!Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

2024-06-12 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck

Leah,

With the front wheel removed and the bike hanging from the rear wheel, 
there'll be plenty of room.  (Also, bags need to be removed from the bike, 
though.) Here's a photo of my Rawland rSogn heading to D2R2 in Vermont. The 
bike has an end-to-end length of 67" with both wheels on. On the return 
trip, I was told that I didn't need to take the front wheel off, and that 
also fit. So, your 55 Platy with a 74" length will fit just fine hanging by 
the rear wheel with the front wheel off. No crew member will measure your 
bike.

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

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On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 10:47:12 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok. I’m going home after work to practice and then lay in bed all night 
> agonizing over it.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2024, at 9:26 AM, Brian Forsee  wrote:
>
> You can also use your knee under the saddle and push raise the bike up 
> with one leg while having both hands on the bars. One hand on saddle one on 
> bars works well also.
>
>
> Brian
>
> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:47:05 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Whoa whoa whoa! The saddle is not IN my pants ma’am!
>> My waistband functions like a handle kinda. Best if wearing jeans.
>> Otherwise just use my abdomen to help push the bike up. 
>> I knew this would read poorly LOL! 
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 18:40, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> I was with you until the saddle was in my pants! What?!?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 9:24 PM, lucky...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 
>> This is how I do it, Leah. Grab the brake levers, stand kind of behind 
>> it, pull the front wheel up and then release the rear brake lever just 
>> enough that the back end can roll forward until the bike is getting 
>> vertical. Stop that action when you’re about to catch the fender on the 
>> ground. Squat down and catch the waistband of your pants under the seat and 
>> stand up using your abdomen/pant waistband to lift the whole bike up. 
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 18:20, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, ok, I gotcha…and pinching the fenders would make me ill. This is 
>> such a good idea. So one Irish strap or a Voile strap should do the trick? 
>> But how, pray tell, does one even get their bike to stand vertical?! I lift 
>> it overhead every day to hang it on the top of my D’vinci rack, but I’ve 
>> never done vertical. Will the train guy help?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 9:06 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>>
>> Here it is! It gives just enough clearance to fully lift the rear wheel 
>> and fender off the ground.
>> 
>>
>>
>> Collin, back in Berkeley
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 4:26:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yes, please send that photo! 🙏
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 7:22 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>>>
>>> I take my 51 Joe Appaloosa on the west coast Amtrak a couple times a 
>>> week. I’m not sure about the wheelbase differences with a 55 Platy, but no 
>>> one on Amtrak is there with a tape measure checking lengths before you hop 
>>> on.
>>>
>>>
>>> The bike is objectively “too long” to fit perfectly on the bike racks. The 
>>> “hack” to actually get the bike mounted off the ground and not off kilter 
>>> is to tie an Irish strap to the upper railing and use that to joist the 
>>> bike up a couple inches. This also saves the fenders from getting pinched. 
>>>
>>> I’ll get a photo when I hop off the train today.
>>> Collin “2 hour working commuter” in Dixon at this moment
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 11:31:26 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is 
 too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you 
 are 
 rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
 would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
 the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
 know what the setup is inside the train cars. 

 If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
 know. 

 Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
 that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
 wheels with the 42mm tires!

 Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

2024-06-12 Thread Ted Durant

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 10:22:18 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:

I recently took my 60cm Platy from NYC to Philly via Amtrak and it fit with 
plenty of clearance both length-wise and tire wise.


And maximal credit for extensive use of Irish straps!

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-12 Thread Ted Durant

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:

I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from 
recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even 
sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.


I will try to remember to weigh mine before building it up. I have two from 
the previous batch, and I have had lots of other frames for comparison. 
Bearing in mind I'm super skinny and riding them on ~48mm tires, they feel 
notably stiffer than my skinny-light-tube noodle Terraferma, on the 
stiff-ish side of my road bikes (Rivendell custom, Waterford ST-22, Heron 
Road), similar to the Bleriot, quite a bit more springy than the 
Waterford-built Riv ATB, and like a limp noodle compared to the Cheviot. 
The best comparison would be my BreadWinner G-Road, and it should say 
something that my new Sam is replacing my G-Road. A bit more springy, 
mostly because of the fork, I think, and a bit better fit. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Saddlesack Medium, gray, $150

2024-06-12 Thread Joe Bernard

No longer for sale cuz I decided to keep it. It's a good bag! 

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:56:55 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> My 20-year flirtation with saddlebags seems to be over, I'm a 
> trunkbag-and/or-Backabikes guy now. 
>
> Older style of the Happisack with dual straps and kangaroo pouch, this 
> "medium" is quite large. 
>
> This is an ex-Leah Bicycle Belle Ding Ding bag, note the adorable patch 
> under the pouch which looks like her blue Clem that I also now own! 
>
> $150 + shipping
> PayPal Venmo check 
>
> Email or text for questions and more pics
> joeremi62 gmail com 
> text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>
> Thanks! 🙋‍♂️
> Joe Bernard 
> Clearlake CA 
>
> [image: Screenshot_20240610_084506.jpg][image: 
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>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-12 Thread Mathias Steiner

Hi Ted,

>>  stiffer...on the stiff-ish side more springy and like a limp 
noodle 

Thanks for your exhaustive and highly quantitative analysis :)

>>  like a limp noodle compared to the Cheviot. 

A diamond frame really does not do much flexing, at least vertically.. it 
is amazing to me how we can really feel a difference when riding. 
I can tell which frames are stiff but on the other hand it might be in my 
head.

After the recent Rivendell 'string test' I'm more willing to believe that 
the difference is real and bigger than I'd thought.

>>  A bit more springy, mostly because of the fork, I think

I believe you are right, but again don't really know.
The bike that I'll be buried with is a Cannondale T400 I bought new 30 
years ago. Fenders with 38 mm tires work, and 28s are fine, too. It's light 
and stiff and bright red and a joy to ride just about anywhere.

But my best rider is a 1987 ST600 with modern wheels and 32 mm Conti GPs. 
No fenders, and no room for more tires, so it's mostly for asphalt and nice 
weather, and at 25 inches, it's borderline too tall for me. But it's a joy 
on the road, light weight, and the fork is much springier, as befits a 
sport tourer vs. an outright touring bike. Every time I get on that bike it 
feels fast, which I can't really understand. I've happily ridden up to 80 
miles on it, which isn't going to impress anyone in this crowd :)

Both of these are stiff in the rear triangle thanks to oversize aluminum. 
That does not make them uncomfortable.

Switching out the T400 unicrown fork for something more rando-y would 
probably make superb long-distance bikes.

Has anyone here tried that? Make a bicycle more compliant by switching out 
the fork?

cheers -mathias

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:
>
> I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from 
> recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
> I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even 
> sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.
>
>
> I will try to remember to weigh mine before building it up. I have two 
> from the previous batch, and I have had lots of other frames for 
> comparison. Bearing in mind I'm super skinny and riding them on ~48mm 
> tires, they feel notably stiffer than my skinny-light-tube noodle 
> Terraferma, on the stiff-ish side of my road bikes (Rivendell custom, 
> Waterford ST-22, Heron Road), similar to the Bleriot, quite a bit more 
> springy than the Waterford-built Riv ATB, and like a limp noodle compared 
> to the Cheviot. The best comparison would be my BreadWinner G-Road, and it 
> should say something that my new Sam is replacing my G-Road. A bit more 
> springy, mostly because of the fork, I think, and a bit better fit. 
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
>

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[RBW] Why Bicycles Will Save the Human Race

2024-06-12 Thread John Rinker

A number of years ago I was teaching children at a school in Asia, and I 
was invited to a learning conference to share my practice. One of the 
requirements for conference leaders was to present a 5-minute TED-style 
talk on a subject of their choice. I chose to speak about bicycles and why 
I believe they will save the human race. 

Here is the video (replete with hyperbole) for your enjoyment.

Why Bicycles Will Save the Human Race 


Cheers, John

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Re: [RBW] Why Bicycles Will Save the Human Race

2024-06-12 Thread Keith Paugh

That was great. Fun assignment.Well spoken John.k.On Jun 12, 2024, at 12:04 PM, John Rinker  wrote:A number of years ago I was teaching children at a school in Asia, and I was invited to a learning conference to share my practice. One of the requirements for conference leaders was to present a 5-minute TED-style talk on a subject of their choice. I chose to speak about bicycles and why I believe they will save the human race. Here is the video (replete with hyperbole) for your enjoyment.Why Bicycles Will Save the Human RaceCheers, John



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Re: [RBW] Why Bicycles Will Save the Human Race

2024-06-12 Thread Steven Sweedler

Thanks for sharing

Steven Sweedler
Plymouth, New Hampshire


On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 3:17 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:

> That was great. Fun assignment.
>
> Well spoken John.
> k.
>
> On Jun 12, 2024, at 12:04 PM, John Rinker  wrote:
>
> A number of years ago I was teaching children at a school in Asia, and I
> was invited to a learning conference to share my practice. One of the
> requirements for conference leaders was to present a 5-minute TED-style
> talk on a subject of their choice. I chose to speak about bicycles and why
> I believe they will save the human race.
>
>
> Here is the video (replete with hyperbole) for your enjoyment.
>
> Why Bicycles Will Save the Human Race
> 
>
> Cheers, John
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-06-12 Thread maxcr

PSA Nice looking 59 Clem L near Boston, MA @ $1,500 seems almost new (no 
connection to the seller). I'm glad I didn't see this before buying my 
Rosco Baby or I would've been very tempted :)

https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/d/auburndale-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7756062078.html

Pasting the ad for reference:
>>I'm selling my Clem Smith Jr. It's a fantastic, smooth-riding Dutch-style 
upright bicycle. If you know Rivendell, you know it's well-designed, 
well-made, and well-sourced. I have too many bikes, and I've ridden it only 
a handful of times for a total of fewer than fifty miles. It deserves to be 
ridden and used.

Here are the specs from the website for the year (2021):
* FSA Duron Headset
* Shimano 118mm Cartridge BB
* Rivendell Silver 38/24t Crank
* Tektro 837AL V-Brakes
* Tektro RS360 Levers
* Alex DM24 Rim / Novatech Hubs
* Kenda K-1129 Kwick Journey 45mm Tires (sturdy, puncture resistant, 
reflective stripe)
* Shimano Altus rear and front derailer
* 11-34 cassette
* A Microshift thumbie for the FD and an Acera trigger for the rear
* Nitto Tallux Stem -110mm.
* Our world famous Tosco handlebars, 60cm
* Kalloy Seatpost

It also has a sturdy rack, MKS Gamma pedals, which are grippy and wide, and 
Oury matchy grips. I will also throw in a nice Kryptonite U-Lock and key.

It's a size 59, which translates into a large. I'm 6'0" and usually ride a 
size 56 road bike and a size 19 mountain bike, and it fits me. I think it 
can accommodate someone 5'8"-ish to 6'2" by adjusting the seat and the stem.

On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 6:21:34 PM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Valerie, 
>
> I thank you for sharing your information with me. It's nice to learn 
> something new. 
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024, 2:49 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>
>> My Clem H from the first/2016 batch that came complete had wheels with 
>> CLEM hubs. 
>>
>> On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 2:59:43 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I have not seen before the word "CLEM" on the center of a stock wheel 
>> before. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024, 12:20 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>
>> 45cm Clem H, $1300 in Los Angeles: 
>>
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-45cm/7754606850.html
>>
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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

2024-06-12 Thread John Rinker

Amazing David! Looks like a great place to take a kindergarten class for a 
field trip! 

Beautiful bicycle.

Cheers, John


On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 1:56:05 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:

> My latest ride took me by a local landmark colloquially known as 
> Ponyhenge. The formation of hobby horses changes from time to time.
>
> [image: PXL_20240608_173411107_ponyhenge-1800.jpg]
> [image: PXL_20240608_173301255_ponyhenge-1800.jpg]
>
> Enjoying the last days of "spring".
> - Dave
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 7:17:02 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> A friend likes to build funky things on his property. This is his 
>> 'cathedral' complete with stained glass and copper/brushed steel onion 
>> dome. The dome is an homage to the Doukhobor community in which we live. 
>> [image: 
>> IMG_3457.jpeg]
>> Cheers, John
>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 8:41:59 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Well settled into late spring here 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20240605_023852749.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday 3 June 2024 at 18:19:27 UTC-7 Chester wrote:
>>>
 Not-so-scenic snapshot of a recent ride on what's nominally my wife's 
 Clem L. Took one of my kids for a ride to a local BMX/pump track and 
 riding 
 the Clem at the park felt like what it might be like to drive a Caddy 
 DeVille on a go-kart track. The luxuriousness of the wheelbase has never 
 felt more apparent to me. But, snark aside, it actually handled pretty 
 sportily. And I didn't feel like a wimp for not catching air on the jumps, 
 like I have in the past when bringing a BMX bike or an MTB there.

 Chester 
 SF Bay Area

 [image: PSX_20240530_192040.jpg]

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

2024-06-12 Thread Leah Peterson

Hi Friends, I looked at your excellent photos and posts in between patients at work today. I’m really, really hoping not to have to take off the front wheel or hang the bike. I’m aiming to just part it somewhere and tie up with John’s straps if need be. BUT, I thought it best to practice tonight. The thing is that every time I try to do anything mechanical, some little hiccup will get me stuck and then I go running to the shop. What I wouldn’t give for a mentor nearby! First up: refreshing sealant. It’s going to be in the 80s, and I’m nearly due for more sealant. The front tire went fine. I have got it down to where I don’t spill a drop of sealant. I even manage to keep the sealant out of the valve stem. The front tire went fine. Then came the rear tire. For the first time, I heard a small “pop.” What was that? I poured in my sealant and went to reinflate. Nothing but hissing and bubbling out the sides of the tire. I bet this is what they call the bead unseating, I thought. I started to panic, but I figured if it could so easily be shifted out of whack, it should be easy to shift back. Pump air, spin tire. Repeat. I heard another “pop” and the tire began to reinflate! I spun that tire a bunch of times, hoping the sealant would SEAL and it did! Next, I had to undo the front brake. They are new Paul brakes, and when I looked at the noodle, I couldn’t dislodge it the way my old V brakes worked. Then suddenly, I found that joint in the Paul - it’s really clever, isn’t it? I had never even noticed it. Got that released, and unplugged the dyno. Then I went to pull the front wheel. That was also easy. Then I put the wheel back on and got the dyno port and the silver wing of the skewer all lined up how I like. Ok, great. Pulled the bike from the stand and SQU. Brakes making horrid sounds. I remembered someone telling me I could pull on the brake noodles and it wouldn’t move them, so the only other thing I could think of was maybe I didn’t seat the wheel in the dropouts? With the bike on the ground I loosened the wheel and bounced the tire. Re-did everything and no more noise! Tire is holding air and dyno is working. Stoked. STOKED over here.Putting dinner on and then packing the Backabikes. Will see about getting the bike up on the rear wheel later!This is such an adventure!LOn Jun 12, 2024, at 12:46 PM, aeroperf wrote:German stations typically have less than a quarter that many bikes.But most European local trains let you “roll on, roll off”. Here’s a shot crossing northern Spain, with straps.

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Re: [RBW] Why Bicycles Will Save the Human Race

2024-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Arita

Well done, John.  "Tinker Habitually."  Two thumbs up!

Bravo,

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 12:43:59 PM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Thanks for sharing
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 3:17 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>
>> That was great. Fun assignment.
>>
>> Well spoken John.
>> k.
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2024, at 12:04 PM, John Rinker  wrote:
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>> A number of years ago I was teaching children at a school in Asia, and I 
>> was invited to a learning conference to share my practice. One of the 
>> requirements for conference leaders was to present a 5-minute TED-style 
>> talk on a subject of their choice. I chose to speak about bicycles and why 
>> I believe they will save the human race. 
>>
>>
>> Here is the video (replete with hyperbole) for your enjoyment.
>>
>> Why Bicycles Will Save the Human Race 
>> 
>>
>> Cheers, John
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Re: [RBW] Wheels and tires

2024-06-12 Thread R Olson

Crust wheelset is SOLD.  Thanks for the interest, everyone.

VO wheelset is pending.

Tires are still available.  I'll sell the WTB Vigilante's for shipping 
costs only to whoever wants them.  

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:30:55 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> Wow, Ireland.  No, sorry, I don’t want to ship internationally.  It would 
> probably cost more to ship it than the wheels themselves and it would take 
> a really long time to get there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2024, at 4:41 AM, Nicholas A  wrote:
>
> Interested in the VO wheels if you would ship to Ireland?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 12 June 2024 at 00:51:30 UTC+1 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> PM sent on the Crust wheels.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
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>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 4:34 PM, R Olson  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have some wheels and tires for sale:
>>
>> 1 Crust Rim brake Wheelset:  700c, 32h F/R, 23mm internal width, 
>> 130mm rear spacing, Shutter Precision SV-8 dynamo front hub.  8spd 
>> cassette, quick release levers and rim tape included.  Hardly used, a few 
>> hundred miles.  Here’s a link to the crust webpage with more information:  
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/wheels/products/crust-randonneur-rim-brake-wheelsets
>>
>>Price:  $200 plus shipping.
>>
>>
>> Velo Orange Wheelset with 43mm Gravelkings with tubes:  700c, 36h F/R, 
>> V-O Voyager rim 22mm internal width, 130mm rear spacing, V-O Grand Cru rear 
>> hub and V-O front hub, 9 spd cassette, handbuilt by local bike shop, 
>> lightly used, again maybe a few hundred miles.
>>
>> Webpage for Voyager rims:  
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/rims/products/voyager-rim?variant=14408204484657
>>
>> Webpage for V-O front hub:  
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/hubs/products/front-hub-silver-and-noir?variant=31842034942089
>>
>>  Price:  $200 plus shipping.
>>
>>
>> Two 50mm Schwalbe Marathons tires.  Maybe fifty miles on them. 
>>
>> Price: $50 plus shipping for both.
>>
>>
>>  Two WTB Vigilante Tough 2.5 inch tires.  I put these on and rode around 
>> the block.  They weren’t what I was looking for.  Pretty heavy FYI.
>>
>> Price:  $40 plus shipping for both.
>>  
>>
>> Here are some photos:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/qwL1zzyjB4W1vyrs7
>>
>> Paypal or Venmo will work.
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>>  
>>
>> Ryan
>>
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Re: [RBW] Wheels and tires

2024-06-12 Thread R Olson

VO wheelset is SOLD.  Thanks!

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 6:17:03 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> Crust wheelset is SOLD.  Thanks for the interest, everyone.
>
> VO wheelset is pending.
>
> Tires are still available.  I'll sell the WTB Vigilante's for shipping 
> costs only to whoever wants them.  
>
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:30:55 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>
>> Wow, Ireland.  No, sorry, I don’t want to ship internationally.  It would 
>> probably cost more to ship it than the wheels themselves and it would take 
>> a really long time to get there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2024, at 4:41 AM, Nicholas A  wrote:
>>
>> Interested in the VO wheels if you would ship to Ireland?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 12 June 2024 at 00:51:30 UTC+1 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> PM sent on the Crust wheels.
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2024, at 4:34 PM, R Olson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have some wheels and tires for sale:
>>>
>>> 1 Crust Rim brake Wheelset:  700c, 32h F/R, 23mm internal width, 
>>> 130mm rear spacing, Shutter Precision SV-8 dynamo front hub.  8spd 
>>> cassette, quick release levers and rim tape included.  Hardly used, a few 
>>> hundred miles.  Here’s a link to the crust webpage with more information:  
>>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/wheels/products/crust-randonneur-rim-brake-wheelsets
>>>
>>>Price:  $200 plus shipping.
>>>
>>>
>>> Velo Orange Wheelset with 43mm Gravelkings with tubes:  700c, 36h F/R, 
>>> V-O Voyager rim 22mm internal width, 130mm rear spacing, V-O Grand Cru rear 
>>> hub and V-O front hub, 9 spd cassette, handbuilt by local bike shop, 
>>> lightly used, again maybe a few hundred miles.
>>>
>>> Webpage for Voyager rims:  
>>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/rims/products/voyager-rim?variant=14408204484657
>>>
>>> Webpage for V-O front hub:  
>>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/hubs/products/front-hub-silver-and-noir?variant=31842034942089
>>>
>>>  Price:  $200 plus shipping.
>>>
>>>
>>> Two 50mm Schwalbe Marathons tires.  Maybe fifty miles on them. 
>>>
>>> Price: $50 plus shipping for both.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Two WTB Vigilante Tough 2.5 inch tires.  I put these on and rode 
>>> around the block.  They weren’t what I was looking for.  Pretty heavy 
>>> FYI.
>>>
>>> Price:  $40 plus shipping for both.
>>>  
>>>
>>> Here are some photos:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/qwL1zzyjB4W1vyrs7
>>>
>>> Paypal or Venmo will work.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking,
>>>  
>>>
>>> Ryan
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[RBW] FS: Vintage wheelset - 100/120mm - Phil Wood/Super Champion/Suntour

2024-06-12 Thread Kim H.

I have up for sale a vintage wheel set from my old road bike from the early
70s'.

The wheel set build consist of the following:

Hubs- Phil Wood 1st generation 36-hole - 100/120mm
Rims - Super Champion 36-hole with presta value holes
Freewheel - NOS Suntour 13-34T Pro Compe Ultra 6
Tires - IRC Tandem 700x30C PSI 100 - sidewalls are showing their threads
Quick Release axles skewers - Campagnolo Nuovo Record

Overall Condition - Very good with modest wear. The Phil Wood hub axles run
smooth without any imperfections.

The wheelset - $250.00

I have two extra rims and white Bleummel fenders:
1) one Super Champion 36-hole rim - used - $40.00
2) one Wolber 58- 36-hole rim - NOS - $50.00
3) 700C Bleummel white fenders with hardware - one pair used - single rear
- NOS - $60.00

Pictures links are : https://photos.app.goo.gl/83VMhH1cFhpe46bj8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZJDFXSp1bdUwCxAk6

If you think my pricing is off, shoot me an offer(s).
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Buy everything for $400.00 (total of listed amounts) and I'll ship them for
no charge.
Otherwise, prices do not include shipping costs. These will be calculated
to the exact amount prior to shipping through my local post office.
Shipping in CONUS.
Paypal payment, please.

Kim Hetzel

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Re: [RBW] WTB SCAMMER ALERT - gran09861@gmail

2024-06-12 Thread John Paz

 Seller should post name and timestamp on item for sale


> On Jun 9, 2024, at 11:30 AM, M G  wrote:
> 
> It’s almost funny how deep into the weeds a scammer has to get when they’re 
> chasing down photos of steel bike frames (total geek niche), of specific old 
> sub-label bike frames (sub-level niche!) of odd non-mainstream geek’s geek 
> label (sub-sub-sub-niche)….etc….  [however one would associate Herons with 
> Rivs, etc]. (PS — i’d take any Heron or original Riv i came 
> across….just….because, well, ya never know when you might NEED another one!)
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2024, at 1:24 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got pinged by gran yesterday regarding my WTB Heron post. Sent two pics of 
>> NOS frames (odd) but zero info. Just a cryptic "which one you want" note. 
>> Did not pass the sniff test.
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4 Mitch wrote:
>> welp.. I took the bait.
>> 
>> On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 8:36:12 AM UTC-7 jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>> "On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 15:11, gran  wrote:Hello Jerry,
>> 
>> I came across your ads in the RBW Owners Bunch group, are you still looking 
>> to buy a Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26?
>> Thank you"
>> Attempted to sell me a frameset that was already sold
>> On Saturday 8 June 2024 at 07:02:40 UTC-7 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:
>> One small thing about playing with scammers (my 'best' one was a long 
>> correspondence with an Airbnb-er who sent me a check to deposit and send him 
>> back the overage)...was another guy who I got so angry, he tried to hack my 
>> gmail account (but failed). So...be careful out there! And on a rare day, I 
>> have a tiny bit of compassion for them, especially as I've recently found 
>> out that many of the overseas hacker/scammers are doing it under threats and 
>> coercion.
>> 
>> Ron in Western Mass
>> 
>> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 5:41:25 PM UTC-4 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Same over here. I actually had some fun with it, but hoping no one actually 
>> took the bait.
>> 
>> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 10:42:18 AM UTC-7 Daniel wrote:
>> Yep, same here.
>> Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 2:43:34 AM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Gran wrote to a lot of us, it seems. Thanks for the heads up.
>> 
>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 8:45:07 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>> Yup, 'gran' contacted me as well, and the first thing I did was to check 
>> here for previous activity. Seemed rather persistent. Thanks for the 
>> heads-up Jim.
>> 
>> Cheers, Joh
>> 
>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 7:31:14 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> Yep, gran wrote me too:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:42 PM gran  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I came across your ads in the RBW Owners Bunch group, are you still looking 
>> to buy an Acorn Trunk Bag?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Last Susie fit question (with photos!) & a second Riv Gus?!

2024-06-12 Thread John C

Thank you both for the insight! I've decided to pass on the Gus, and look
into mixing things up with another type of Riv for that eventual build.

For the Susie, I think I'll go with a temporary threadless stem adapter/
stem to play around with with lengths while I'm getting used to the bike.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 11:30 AM Armand Kizirian 
wrote:

> Difference in reach between the two models is only 1.5cm, you can adjust
> for it with stem length without an issue in the age of 80-135mm. I wouldn't
> trust any opinion on fit based on the photos you've provided, especially
> since your feet are floating. :D Only you know best.
>
> Your PBH is within range for both sizes. It all depends what kind of fit
> you prefer, being "on" the bike (smaller size, more playful/nimble) or "in"
> the bike (larger size, more stable and relaxed).
>
> [image: Screenshot 2024-06-08 111731.png]
> On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 9:14:43 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>>
>> That's going to be hard to tell without riding.  Based on my own
>> experience and preferences, I'd guess you'll want to stretch out a little
>> more.  Either longer stem or less sweep on the bars.  Completely
>> speculation though.
>>
>> I'm a chronic cockpit tinkerer, and mess with bars and stem on at least
>> two of my bikes every year.  I've noticed one un-scientific constant every
>> time I get a setup feeling close to ideal:  if I draw an imaginary line
>> between my hands (where they grip the bar), and sight through that line
>> while riding, the bead from my eyes will almost exactly  intersect the axis
>> of the front hub.  I don't know what the connection is or why it always
>> turns out this way, but assume it has to do with weighting and stabilizing
>> the steering adequately.   It looks to me like you would be sighting behind
>> the axle as currently mocked up?
>>
>>  Good news is that that that bike doesn't look too small.  In case you
>> were still worried you got the wrong size.
>>
>> Regarding a second:  I'd never try to talk someone out of a second riv.
>> But keep in mind that the susie is very different from other rivendell
>> models.I think the lowered bb height of yours will help, compared to my
>> first run orange one, but bet its still quite different.  My AR, Ram,
>> Saluki, QB and Clem - though mostly older models - all have a
>> characteristic Riv "feel".  My Susie is completely different.  I'd consider
>> getting a different model for variety's sake.
>> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 11:54:24 PM UTC-6 johnwc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, just wanted a final opinion.
>>>
>>> Here is the 50cm Susie I took delivery of. I've mocked this up with 26"
>>> Cliffhangers (I didn't have 27.5 rim brake set on hand), Ortho bars, 100mm
>>> Nitto stem, Brooks saddle. Saddle height is about 64/65cm and my PBH is
>>> about 78.
>>>
>>> How does this fit look? Specifically, reach.
>>>
>>> Without properly riding it, my first impression was that it felt ok-ish.
>>> Hard to tell without actually going for a ride. Didn't feel too stretched
>>> out and not really cramped either.
>>>
>>> To throw another wrench in things, I have an opportunity to pickup a
>>> used 54cm Gus frame. Do I need to have a second Riv right now? No! But, we
>>> all know how bikes go. If anything, my partner could probably ride either
>>> frame so, it wouldn't be a lost cause.
>>> Maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to have 2 Rivs!!
>>>
>>> Using the photos of me on the 50cm Susie, do you think a 54cm Gus would
>>> be too large?
>>>
>>> Thanks y'all!
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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

2024-06-12 Thread Timothy Hurley

On the Amtrak trains in the DC/NYC/Boston corridor you have to take the 
front wheel off and hang the bike on a hook. I'm not sure if it's the same 
everywhere, but fenders might be more of a problem than a long bike. I can 
second that the conductors don't care about the dimensions of your bike 
unless it's something crazy. 

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:02:00 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Yes, Ryan, same thoughts! I’m staying in a hotel. I’m not much of a 
> camper. I feel like the Canucks might think that’s rather weak of me. 🫣
>
> On Jun 10, 2024, at 6:41 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> yeah if  little Prince platy isn't dialed in yet I'd roll the dice and 
> take the raspberry one that you feel most efficient on. First day of 61 
> miles is not an insignificant distance (100 klicks to us Canucks) with 
> possible wind and heat issues...
>
>
> Are you camping or staying in a hotel/motel?
>
> Have fun
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 5:24:50 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the situation 
>> better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer Platy and try to 
>> deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't sound like it'll 
>> be much of a problem.
>> Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the Summer 
>> time.  More power to him.
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. 
>>>
>>> I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to 
>>> drive me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking 
>>> my preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of state 
>>> for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New 
>>> Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get me, 
>>> and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer college 
>>> physics study time. Yes, seriously.
>>>
>>> The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut 
>>> that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to 
>>> get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long 
>>> rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than 
>>> in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long 
>>> Platy on board this one time for this one journey. 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>>>
>>> Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I 
>>> have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not 
>>> you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning 
>>> to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd 
>>> be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New 
>>> Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, 
>>> since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a 
>>> big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure 
>>> you'll be just fine out there with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is 
 too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you 
 are 
 rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
 would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
 the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
 know what the setup is inside the train cars. 

 If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
 know. 

 Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
 that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
 wheels with the 42mm tires!

 Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paint Color matters! Your favorite?

2024-06-12 Thread David Ross

Orange. I've never owned an orange bike but I've always wanted one. I'd 
have to say that the Gus in orange is one of my favorite bikes of all time. 

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> So many nice colors here. The sage green on my 2014 Sam will always be one 
> of my favorites. Shown here in commuter mode.
> Versatile and goes well with accent colors.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> [image: SamH 1.jpg]
> On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:39:59 AM UTC-4 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Custom Pewter Rambouillet painted by Rick at D&D. I had imagined a 
>> slightly lighter almost silver in my head but the color turned out amazing. 
>> A beautiful metallic shimmer appears when the bike is in direct sunlight!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 9:21 AM Ted Durant  wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 2:46:47 PM UTC-5 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Rivendell should revisit this wonderful paint color for some of their 
>>> models.  This is the fork from a 2000 Heron Road bike that I’m building.  
>>> The blue/green metallic is fantastic in the sun.  
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I'm biased, but that is certainly one of my favorite colors ever. 
>>> I was stoked when Roger gave me the sample tube with that color on it. Even 
>>> in the fluorescent lights of their shop I could tell it was a winner.
>>>
>>> That said, the color of the Heron prototype, "soap green", which is 
>>> suspiciously like celeste, has a warm place in my heart. That frame is in 
>>> the hands of Now You're Finished for a full spa treatment, and Adam will be 
>>> matching the color.
>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-06-11 at 9.16.21 AM.png] 
>>>
>>> But I think my all-time favorite so far is Waterford's Copper Metallic, 
>>> or as I like to call it, Root Beer with a Creamy Head:
>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-06-11 at 9.18.07 AM.png]
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[RBW] Re: Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

2024-06-12 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Two quick options:

Railroad Grade on Mt Tamalpais is all climbing, but it's a polite grade and 
the views are quite nice. 
It is south facing so can get pretty warm if the temps come up. But there 
are places to stop and recover. 

China Camp State Park can be a bit mountain-bikey at time, but the trails 
are polished and well tended. If you start at the campground end, it's a 
steady climb for a bit, but then a nice long-ish level descent out to 
Buckeye Point and back on the lower trails. Just technical enough to keep 
you alert. Multi-use singletrack. There is a use fee. 

Jim

On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 11:15:01 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a 
> day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in 
> anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He 
> is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be 
> riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any 
> recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too 
> sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is. 
> You can reply directly if you choose.
>
> Thanks, Liz in Sac

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

2024-06-12 Thread luckyturnip

Thank you all!On Jun 12, 2024, at 22:41, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:Two quick options:Railroad Grade on Mt Tamalpais is all climbing, but it's a polite grade and the views are quite nice. It is south facing so can get pretty warm if the temps come up. But there are places to stop and recover. China Camp State Park can be a bit mountain-bikey at time, but the trails are polished and well tended. If you start at the campground end, it's a steady climb for a bit, but then a nice long-ish level descent out to Buckeye Point and back on the lower trails. Just technical enough to keep you alert. Multi-use singletrack. There is a use fee. JimOn Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 11:15:01 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:Greetings all,

My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is.
You can reply directly if you choose.

Thanks, Liz in Sac

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