date:20240205

Re: [RBW] Ride Report - Santa Monica to Santa Barbara Century

2024-02-05 Thread Bill Schairer

"Omata One: How does one buy one? I didn't see a "Buy Now" button or a link 
to a dealer network."

Or even a price?

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 4:35:06 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Two very interesting adaptations. The Racing Basket weighs the same as the 
> custom rear rack on my Matthews #1. And getting digital GPS into an 
> anaolgue readout is very appealing.
>
> Omata One: How does one buy one? I didn't see a "Buy Now" button or a link 
> to a dealer network.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 2:03 AM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>
>> ... 
>>
>
>>- The “Racing basket 
>>” is just a 
>>Wald basket that they cut down to half height. (I think they look cool)
>>- The odometer/speedometer is a digital bike computer built into 
>>analog guts. Omata One  is name. They are so rad. 
>>Measures speed, time, distance, and elevation gain, and then syncs with 
>>your phone to record the data. Picked this one up used. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Wanted: Jones LWB

2024-02-05 Thread Joe D.

Good morning!

I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd, so 
I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a Jones Plus LWB 
(now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB bikes are 
now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are any used 
possibilities out there.

I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to version 
3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss fork and 
eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the frame/fork 
itself.

Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely so 
we'd have to work out shipping.

Thanks!
Joe

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[RBW] FS: Thule Doubeltrack 990 hitch rack

2024-02-05 Thread Patch T

NYC area Riv folks!

Hoping to sell this 2-bike platform hitch rack before tomorrow. Thule 
Doubletrack 990.

It's the predecessor to the Doubletrack XT, in very good/excellent 
condition. Used on exactly one cross-country trip, and then stored inside 
for years. Everything functioning as it should. Comes with a 1.25"-2" 
adapter.

I'm asking $125 OBO

Pick-up only, NYC area.

Patch in Brooklyn

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Re: [RBW] FS: Thule Doubeltrack 990 hitch rack

2024-02-05 Thread Ryan Ogilvie

Patch, I’ll take this if you can’t find a buyer. Assuming I can lash it to the back of my rad wagon, I could pick it up tomorrow evening. (Car is in shop, but I’m very resourceful loading up the cargo bike.)No worries if you have another buyer. Let me know if you want that frame pump. Could bring that over. Fun ride the other weekend. Hope your packing is going well!Cheers,Ryan Sent from my mobile device. On Feb 5, 2024, at 8:40 AM, Patch T wrote:NYC area Riv folks!Hoping to sell this 2-bike platform hitch rack before tomorrow. Thule Doubletrack 990.It's the predecessor to the Doubletrack XT, in very good/excellent condition. Used on exactly one cross-country trip, and then stored inside for years. Everything functioning as it should. Comes with a 1.25"-2" adapter.I'm asking $125 OBOPick-up only, NYC area.Patch in Brooklyn

Re: [RBW] Wanted: Jones LWB

2024-02-05 Thread Eric Daume

Jones is having a sale right now, $500 off complete bikes. They don’t come
up used very often.

Eric


On Monday, February 5, 2024, Joe D.  wrote:

> Good morning!
>
> I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd, so
> I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a Jones Plus LWB
> (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB bikes are
> now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are any used
> possibilities out there.
>
> I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to version
> 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss fork and
> eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the frame/fork
> itself.
>
> Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely so
> we'd have to work out shipping.
>
> Thanks!
> Joe
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Richard Rose

Andrew, how does the dos freewheel work? Is the 2 tooth difference not enough to worry about chain tension?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Berkeleyan wrote:The paint and fancier lugs on the RoadUno are beautiful, glad to see this coming. Still, I love my 66cm QuickBeam. I stick with a single ring up front and a Dos ENO 17-19 freewheel on the rear, with a 16 fixed cog on the other side. It gets me anywhere in Berkeley except up the steepest hills, and also serves as a fine S24O steed (I rode it from Ferry Building over GG Bridge to Corte Madera for Entmoot that one time. The thing maybe not clear until you ride a single is the extra body english you're going to be employing - I stand on the pedals a lot, and do paperboy up many slopes. This is fine, the delight of not ever shifting while riding is exquisite, and I enjoy the tighter bond with the bike. It's the "one" bike I'll never let go of.- Andrew, BerkeleyOn Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:I like single speed bikes, many like single speed bikes. The simplicity, the possibility of fixed gear, it is the epitome of biking for me, I think.I like the idea of the roaduno. So far it looks like it will have 700c/622 wheel size, long reach side pull brakes. Rear facing drop outs. Those are the main factors to think about, because stem length, handlebar and lever type, fenders or not, dynamo or not, are flexible on most bikes.What is the competition, and what are they offering?Crust Lightning bolt single speed. 650b wheels with anti posts. BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?Edwin

[RBW] FS: Sun Hoodie Lot

2024-02-05 Thread Dave Grossman

I have a surplus of Sun/Riding/Baselayer/Fishing hoodies and I'd like to 
pass them on in a bulk buy.

All 7 are in good condition, some with more wear and some stains. I wear a 
large so they all fit within that range despite being variably sized.

Top row from left to right:
Champion XL
Evoshield XL
Columbia Omni wick L
Columbia Omni wick L

Bottom row:
5-11 (only non hoodie, has collar) M (runs big)
Carhartt fishing L
Carhartt fishing L

Asking $80 shipped for it all.

Link to Pics Here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WvsoUrvZriUuTwpC9

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore

Two teeth will require adjusting the axle-bb length. The Quickbeam and
Roaduno have long track ends to hold the axle (or will the Roaduno have
long forward-facing horizontals?).

With the chain adjusted for the bigger cog you might be able to ride, just,
with the chain on the smaller cog, using a freewheel, but the chain will
certainly be very loose. You would *not* want to do that with a 17/19 t
Surly Dingle cog!

Andrew: Do you use a QR axle on your flip flop hub? I switched from 17 and
19 cogs on either side of my Phil to a 17/19 Dingle so that with the QR
axle it's very, very easy and quick to change cogs.

Patrick "76 inches and 68 inches on the same side" Moore [Sometimes I
wonder if a 17/20 would not have been better: 64"; but then realize that
for this bike the 76" cruising gear and a 68" headwind and long incline
gear is just about perfect; *spot-on* perfect would be 76" / 66".]

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 7:37 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> Andrew, how does the dos freewheel work? Is the 2 tooth difference not
> enough to worry about chain tension?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 4, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:
>
> 
> The paint and fancier lugs on the RoadUno are beautiful, glad to see this
> coming. Still, I love my 66cm QuickBeam. I stick with a single ring up
> front and a Dos ENO 17-19 freewheel on the rear, with a 16 fixed cog on the
> other side. It gets me anywhere in Berkeley except up the steepest hills,
> and also serves as a fine S24O steed (I rode it from Ferry Building over GG
> Bridge to Corte Madera for Entmoot that one time. The thing maybe not clear
> until you ride a single is the extra body english you're going to be
> employing - I stand on the pedals a lot, and do paperboy up many slopes.
> This is fine, the delight of not ever shifting while riding is exquisite,
> and I enjoy the tighter bond with  the bike. It's the "one" bike I'll never
> let go of.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> I like single speed bikes, many like single speed bikes. The simplicity,
>> the possibility of fixed gear, it is the epitome of biking for me, I think.
>>
>> I like the idea of the roaduno. So far it looks like it will have
>> 700c/622 wheel size, long reach side pull brakes. Rear facing drop outs.
>> Those are the main factors to think about, because stem length, handlebar
>> and lever type, fenders or not, dynamo or not, are flexible on most bikes.
>>
>> What is the competition, and what are they offering?
>> Crust Lightning bolt single speed. 650b wheels with anti posts.
>>
>> BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 135mm
>> rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>>
>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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[RBW] Re: NYC Riv Ride?

2024-02-05 Thread Caroline Golum

Thanks everyone who replied!

In an exciting - and stressful - turn of events, I have to go on a four-day 
shoot President's Day week, so hoping if we get an early spring that March 
would be a good time to schedule a group ride?

On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 11:07:15 AM UTC-5 Norman R wrote:

> Almost 11 years since 2 day Riv Ride along Delaware Water Gap up and 
> railtrail down.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/ebw2Rz
> Norman R
> Montclair, NJ
> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:46:00 AM UTC-5 Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
>> I'm also in NJ. I might be up for joining you, depending on the location 
>> (and the weather!).
>>
>> Bob E
>> Cranford, NJ
>>
>> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 2:09:52 PM UTC-5 tio ryan wrote:
>>
>>> long time pedaler, first time owner -- would love to meet for a ride! 
>>>
>>> a ride out to the beach with a stop at any of the aforementioned spots 
>>> is always fun. I personally like hitting up spumoni gardens on the way 
>>> back. 
>>>
>>> grand army plaza @ prospect park is a good meet up spot for a ride like 
>>> that
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 1:26:15 PM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:
>>>
 Seeing the LA Riv Ride post got me thinking! Anyone in the NYC area 
 interested in a weekend ride this month? It's chilly, but we can handle it!
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore

Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly offers
their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor models,
and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.

I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a couple,
the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice hubs;
practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost far
less than my Phils.

Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did have
my old ones converted to hollow axles.

Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin wheel
fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. Hollow
axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, insert QR
skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New hubs come
with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle conversion or any
other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly steel, while the
fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) for corrosion
resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts tighten and loosen
with a 6mm hex wrench.

I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.

On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has
>> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>>
>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Wanted: Jones LWB

2024-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore

Man, I am tempted -- $1295.00 for a complete SWB. But I'll refrain: I
really like the fit and feel and riding position and geometry and
dimensions of that fat-tire Matthews, this with 42 cm RH Maes Parallels;
and a second wheelset with (in fact: tubeless, EL, 27mm IW rims) 60 mm
Fleecer Ridges will provide enough sand float for a multiple gear bike on
which I can gear down for deeper sand (the Monocog has 3" Rangers).

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 7:24 AM Eric Daume  wrote:

> Jones is having a sale right now, $500 off complete bikes. They don’t come
> up used very often.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Will Boericke

Sturmey Archer AW is as close to single speed as I get - the perfect number 
of speeds for a tootling bike.

Will

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:01:48 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly offers 
> their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor models, 
> and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>
> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a 
> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice 
> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost 
> far less than my Phils.
>
> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did have 
> my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>
> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin wheel 
> fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. Hollow 
> axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, insert QR 
> skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New hubs come 
> with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle conversion or any 
> other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly steel, while the 
> fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) for corrosion 
> resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts tighten and loosen 
> with a 6mm hex wrench.
>
> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 
>>> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>>>
>>
>>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Richard Rose

Patrick, Roaduno drops are rear facing but horizontal vs. the Quickbeam’s angled ones. I presume that means you could not adjust chain tension without also needing to adjust brake pads? That ain’t happening.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 5, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:Two teeth will require adjusting the axle-bb length. The Quickbeam and Roaduno have long track ends to hold the axle (or will the Roaduno have long forward-facing horizontals?).With the chain adjusted for the bigger cog you might be able to ride, just, with the chain on the smaller cog, using a freewheel, but the chain will certainly be very loose. You would not want to do that with a 17/19 t Surly Dingle cog!Andrew: Do you use a QR axle on your flip flop hub? I switched from 17 and 19 cogs on either side of my Phil to a 17/19 Dingle so that with the QR axle it's very, very easy and quick to change cogs.Patrick "76 inches and 68 inches on the same side" Moore [Sometimes I wonder if a 17/20 would not have been better: 64"; but then realize that for this bike the 76" cruising gear and a 68" headwind and long incline gear is just about perfect; spot-on perfect would be 76" / 66".]On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 7:37 AM Richard Rose wrote:Andrew, how does the dos freewheel work? Is the 2 tooth difference not enough to worry about chain tension?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Berkeleyan wrote:The paint and fancier lugs on the RoadUno are beautiful, glad to see this coming. Still, I love my 66cm QuickBeam. I stick with a single ring up front and a Dos ENO 17-19 freewheel on the rear, with a 16 fixed cog on the other side. It gets me anywhere in Berkeley except up the steepest hills, and also serves as a fine S24O steed (I rode it from Ferry Building over GG Bridge to Corte Madera for Entmoot that one time. The thing maybe not clear until you ride a single is the extra body english you're going to be employing - I stand on the pedals a lot, and do paperboy up many slopes. This is fine, the delight of not ever shifting while riding is exquisite, and I enjoy the tighter bond with the bike. It's the "one" bike I'll never let go of.- Andrew, BerkeleyOn Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:I like single speed bikes, many like single speed bikes. The simplicity, the possibility of fixed gear, it is the epitome of biking for me, I think.I like the idea of the roaduno. So far it looks like it will have 700c/622 wheel size, long reach side pull brakes. Rear facing drop outs. Those are the main factors to think about, because stem length, handlebar and lever type, fenders or not, dynamo or not, are flexible on most bikes.What is the competition, and what are they offering?Crust Lightning bolt single speed. 650b wheels with anti posts. BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore

Hah, even better: SA AM hub (3 speed freewheel, 86.54%, direct, 115.55 %;
and ASC (3 speed fixed), direct, 90%, 75%. I agree that 3 speeds is a kind
of universal norm.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 8:39 AM Will Boericke  wrote:

> Sturmey Archer AW is as close to single speed as I get - the perfect
> number of speeds for a tootling bike.
>
> Will
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:01:48 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly
>> offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor
>> models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>>
>> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a
>> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice
>> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost
>> far less than my Phils.
>>
>> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did have
>> my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>>
>> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin wheel
>> fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. Hollow
>> axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, insert QR
>> skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New hubs come
>> with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle conversion or any
>> other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly steel, while the
>> fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) for corrosion
>> resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts tighten and loosen
>> with a 6mm hex wrench.
>>
>> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has
 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.

>>>
 What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?

 Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore

If the Roaduno track ends are horizontal yes, that's a defect, IMO. It has
been a long time since I bothered with a rear brake on a fixed geared bike,
but just perhaps, with just 2 teeth difference, you could set up your rear
pads to work with the wheel in both positions despite no angled axle
movement. I've never done that, though.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 8:42 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> Patrick, Roaduno drops are rear facing but horizontal vs. the Quickbeam’s
> angled ones. I presume that means you could not adjust chain tension
> without also needing to adjust brake pads? That ain’t happening.:)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 5, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
> Two teeth will require adjusting the axle-bb length. The Quickbeam and
> Roaduno have long track ends to hold the axle (or will the Roaduno have
> long forward-facing horizontals?).
>
> With the chain adjusted for the bigger cog you might be able to ride,
> just, with the chain on the smaller cog, using a freewheel, but the chain
> will certainly be very loose. You would *not* want to do that with a
> 17/19 t Surly Dingle cog!
>
> Andrew: Do you use a QR axle on your flip flop hub? I switched from 17 and
> 19 cogs on either side of my Phil to a 17/19 Dingle so that with the QR
> axle it's very, very easy and quick to change cogs.
>
> Patrick "76 inches and 68 inches on the same side" Moore [Sometimes I
> wonder if a 17/20 would not have been better: 64"; but then realize that
> for this bike the 76" cruising gear and a 68" headwind and long incline
> gear is just about perfect; *spot-on* perfect would be 76" / 66".]
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 7:37 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> Andrew, how does the dos freewheel work? Is the 2 tooth difference not
>> enough to worry about chain tension?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Berkeleyan  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> The paint and fancier lugs on the RoadUno are beautiful, glad to see this
>> coming. Still, I love my 66cm QuickBeam. I stick with a single ring up
>> front and a Dos ENO 17-19 freewheel on the rear, with a 16 fixed cog on the
>> other side. It gets me anywhere in Berkeley except up the steepest hills,
>> and also serves as a fine S24O steed (I rode it from Ferry Building over GG
>> Bridge to Corte Madera for Entmoot that one time. The thing maybe not clear
>> until you ride a single is the extra body english you're going to be
>> employing - I stand on the pedals a lot, and do paperboy up many slopes.
>> This is fine, the delight of not ever shifting while riding is exquisite,
>> and I enjoy the tighter bond with  the bike. It's the "one" bike I'll never
>> let go of.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> I like single speed bikes, many like single speed bikes. The simplicity,
>>> the possibility of fixed gear, it is the epitome of biking for me, I think.
>>>
>>> I like the idea of the roaduno. So far it looks like it will have
>>> 700c/622 wheel size, long reach side pull brakes. Rear facing drop outs.
>>> Those are the main factors to think about, because stem length, handlebar
>>> and lever type, fenders or not, dynamo or not, are flexible on most bikes.
>>>
>>> What is the competition, and what are they offering?
>>> Crust Lightning bolt single speed. 650b wheels with anti posts.
>>>
>>> BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 135mm
>>> rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>>>
>>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Benjamin L. Kelley

One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil
and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating.
Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic.
Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs.

I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to
fiddle with on your bike when its locked up.
I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and I
really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts.

--ben in KC

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly offers
> their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor models,
> and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>
> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a
> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice
> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost
> far less than my Phils.
>
> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did have
> my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>
> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin wheel
> fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. Hollow
> axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, insert QR
> skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New hubs come
> with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle conversion or any
> other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly steel, while the
> fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) for corrosion
> resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts tighten and loosen
> with a 6mm hex wrench.
>
> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has
>>> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>>>
>>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
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[RBW] Re: ISO: Frame Pump Zefal HpX 1 or Acceptable Alternate

2024-02-05 Thread christian poppell


Hey All,

At Ed's suggestion, I ordered the Topeak 4349. I found a good deal from a 
seller in Taiwan on eBay. It fits great on the 50 Platy, despite only 
having 40cm between the peg and headtube. 

Thanks again for the suggestions! 
Christian
Phoenix, AZ


On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 9:11:49 AM UTC-7 christian poppell wrote:

> *I've been keeping an eye open for a frame pump for my 50cm Platy as well 
> - and wondering why RBW spec'ed such a short span for the pump peg. *
>
> Its a new standard to take the frame pump market by storm :) Joking aside, 
> I'll update this space once I get the Topeak (43cm-49cm ) in hand. I'm 
> hopeful that I can eek out a few more cm past the recommended size range. 
> Otherwise, us 50cm Platy owners will be waiting for the RBW frame pump. 
>
> Christian
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 12:12:46 PM UTC-7 Steve wrote:
>
>> I've been keeping an eye open for a frame pump for my 50cm Platy as well 
>> - and wondering why RBW spec'ed such a short span for the pump peg. 
>>
>> I'd love to hang a Silca Impero on it, but even their small (44 - 49 cm / 
>> 17.3 - 19.3 in.) appears to be a bit too long.  
>>
>> Steve in Asheville
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 5:00:03 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> Topeak makes a frame pump for the global market. You can locate new ones 
>>> from international sellers on eBay. The 4349 has the same spec lengths as 
>>> the HPX-1.
>>> https://www.topeak.com/global/en/product/235-ROAD-MASTERBLASTER.
>>>
>>> The top-of-the-line Silca Ultimate II went down in price recently, and 
>>> is actually on sale for $75 until Jan 21. Unfortunately, I think the Small 
>>> is all sold out. Check suppliers to see if they matched Silca's price.
>>>
>>> https://silca.cc/collections/silca-supersecret-semi-anual-sale/products/impero-ultimate-ii-frame-pump-memorial-day-sale?variant=40350946492514
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Ed C.
>>> Redondo Beach, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:43:21 AM UTC-8 christian poppell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Gang, 

 I'm looking for a HPX-1 for a 50cm Platypus. Space between the peg and 
 headtube is 410mm. Looking to pay retail for like new and less if the pump 
 is used. 

 Also, if anyone has a good alternative I'm all ears with the HPX out of 
 production. 

 Thanks! 
 Christian
 Phoenix, AZ

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dynamo gear and Nitto handlebars (SF Bay)

2024-02-05 Thread Donzaemon

I’m interested in the Kite bars, but I’m going to be on a trip for the next 
two weeks. If you’re willing to work with my schedule, can you PM me?

Thanks!

-Don

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-8 CMR wrote:

> Prices are for a local deal picked up in Menlo Park, I am half a mile from 
> the Cal Train station. Really hoping not to ship or split parts just yet.
>
> Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/
>
>
>
> *Dynamo set up - $400*
>
> *Front wheel *Schmidt Son to Mavic Open Sport, butted spokes, all silver 
> in good but used condition.
>
>
> *Front Light*Busch and Mueller IQ-XS – silver, used 100 miles, uncut 
> cable length, some storage marks pictured.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/iq-xs-1?_pos=3&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>
>
> *Rear Lights*Busch & Müller Toplight Line Brake Plus Pulsating tail light 
> – used 25 miles, great condition.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/dyno-rack-light
>
> Busch & Müller SecuZED Plus Dyno Tail Light for Fender, Frame or Seat Post 
> – looks like it might be missing a bracket, you can likely call Riv for 
> one, or MacGyver a threaded attachment.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/xfhz66816?_pos=2&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>
> B&M Saddle Rail Bracket – never used
> https://www.clevercycles.com/b-m-saddle-rail-bracket.html
>
> Schmidt dynamo tail light wire
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/schimdt-wire?_pos=6&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>
> Two rear B&M cables
>
> Schmidt coaxial connector
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/lights/schmidt-coaxial-adapter/
>
>
> Nitto R14 – used condition, all required hardware – extra $100 
>
>
>
> *Nitto handlebars – all 3 for $200*Nitto albatross (heat-treated 
> aluminum) – unridden but scratched from installing it on a tight stem - $85
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-albatross-bar-cromo-55cm-x-25-4
>
> Nitto choco bar (heat-treated aluminum) – not pictured, I can send one if 
> interested. Ridden 200 miles, scratched from a tight stem but overall good 
> condition - $85
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-choco-norm-bar-alu-ht-54cm-x-25-4-100mm-sleeve-tandem-162491
>
> Nitto kite bars B355 (heat-treated aluminum) – new in package – $50
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Bill Lindsay

Do you interpret the absence of a weight rating on the Surly Ultra New to 
mean it's unlimited, and therefore stronger/more reliable than the Phil?  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:18:47 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote:

> One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil 
> and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating.
> Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic.
> Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs.
>
> I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to 
> fiddle with on your bike when its locked up.
> I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and I 
> really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts.
>
> --ben in KC
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly 
>> offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor 
>> models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>>
>> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a 
>> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice 
>> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost 
>> far less than my Phils.
>>
>> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did have 
>> my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>>
>> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin wheel 
>> fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. Hollow 
>> axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, insert QR 
>> skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New hubs come 
>> with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle conversion or any 
>> other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly steel, while the 
>> fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) for corrosion 
>> resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts tighten and loosen 
>> with a 6mm hex wrench.
>>
>> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
 ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 
 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.

 What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?

 Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Mathias Steiner

Bill said
>> I think the 2x1 or 3x1 concept around the Roaduno is brilliant. 

That concept is alien to me -- if I understood right, we're talking about 
single-cog-in-back, front-derailleur shifting. I don't know what problem 
that would solve. 

I "get" the single-speed thing, I think. I've been toying with the concept, 
purposely not shifting my old 3x6 Motobécane last summer for days at a 
time. It's relatively flat here in mid-Michigan, and for a commuter bike, 
the simplicity is great. In the end, I was too lazy to take the shifting 
apparatus off. I'm still considering it for a future build, makes for a 
great lockup bike with only five or  six moving parts ;)

Now for winter riding, single speed would make perfect sense. I went more 
complicated and built a rear wheel with a Shimano Nexus 3speed hub. Since I 
have cobbled-together shifting it's only a two speed, Low and Direct, and 
that's plenty. There's  no shift mechanism exposed to the salt, only a 
front rim brake, and the rear coaster brake is great on snow and ice.

A 2x1 would give me all the complexities of a rear derailleur, plus the 
poorer shifting of a front system.
Three speeds is cool, but then a 3sp IGH is a great choice, and the clean 
look is a bonus.

Which is I guess why we have all these bikes to choose from. Different 
strokes and all that. 
cheers -m



On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 12:12:00 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Do you interpret the absence of a weight rating on the Surly Ultra New to 
> mean it's unlimited, and therefore stronger/more reliable than the Phil?  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:18:47 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>
>> One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil 
>> and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating.
>> Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic.
>> Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs.
>>
>> I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to 
>> fiddle with on your bike when its locked up.
>> I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and 
>> I really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts.
>>
>> --ben in KC
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly 
>>> offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor 
>>> models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>>>
>>> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a 
>>> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice 
>>> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost 
>>> far less than my Phils.
>>>
>>> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did 
>>> have my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>>>
>>> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin 
>>> wheel fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. 
>>> Hollow axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, 
>>> insert QR skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New 
>>> hubs come with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle 
>>> conversion or any other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly 
>>> steel, while the fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) 
>>> for corrosion resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts 
>>> tighten and loosen with a 6mm hex wrench.
>>>
>>> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:

> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 
> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>
> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>
> Edwin
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore

I've always wondered what advantages a 2X1 has over a 1X2 if you are going
to use derailleurs -- the 2X1 requires a FD and something like a RD while
the 1X2 requires only the rear one -- but for ss sans derailleur some
people say that front shifting is easier than rear shifting. Not for me,
though.

Am eagerly awaiting the close ratio Silver Rivendell IGH (with proprietary
wingnuts).

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 10:51 AM Mathias Steiner 
wrote:

> Bill said
> >> I think the 2x1 or 3x1 concept around the Roaduno is brilliant.
>
> ... A 2x1 would give me all the complexities of a rear derailleur, plus
> the poorer shifting of a front system.
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[RBW] Surly Pugsley for sale

2024-02-05 Thread Joe D.

For sale is My Surly Pugsley, somewhat Rivendell or Jones-esq with the 
wheel pulled all the way back and the relatively long chainstays of 475mm, 
the upright riding position, the camping setup, and the non-fancy parts 
(135mm hubs!)

Just thought I'd post here in case anyone is interested.

https://helena.craigslist.org/bik/d/helena-surly-pugsley-studs-29-framebag/7714691473.html

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[RBW] Production Riv with largest Stack / Reach ratio

2024-02-05 Thread Max S

Question for the RBW braintrust: 

Which production Riv has the largest Stack / Reach ratio?.. 

For this quest, I'm curious if there's something out there that's >60cm 
stack and <38cm reach, and >61cm front-center, wondering if I can get there 
without a full-on custom. If not a Rivendell, what other production options 
might folks suggest? (not interested in tall stems, but am interested in 
tall headtubes) 

TIA! 

- Max "helping a T-Rex get into the sport" in A2

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread DavidP

A recent Riv newsletter compared the 3x1 to an IGH, saying the 3x1 setup is 
similar but more mechanically transparent.

If you could setup a rear shifted 1x2 or 1x3 with 8-10t jumps between cogs 
that might be an interesting comparison. (The largest jump on a megarange 
freewheel is in this range.)

A question I keep coming back to is whether a 3x1 is more "efficient" than 
a 1x7/8/9 in terms of drivetrain complexity (mechanically and/or mentally).

Still, I like the idea of a front shifted 2x1 or 3x1 setup. If planning on 
such a setup I'd probably just get a Homer vs the Roaduno because I always 
end up wanting fenders on a bike like this and vertical dropouts make 
fenders so much easier. But I do see that the Roaduno with its 120mm rear 
spacing is a "more pure" implementation of the vision.

-Dave

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 12:55:20 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've always wondered what advantages a 2X1 has over a 1X2 if you are going 
> to use derailleurs -- the 2X1 requires a FD and something like a RD while 
> the 1X2 requires only the rear one -- but for ss sans derailleur some 
> people say that front shifting is easier than rear shifting. Not for me, 
> though.
>
> Am eagerly awaiting the close ratio Silver Rivendell IGH (with proprietary 
> wingnuts).
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 10:51 AM Mathias Steiner  
> wrote:
>
>> Bill said
>> >> I think the 2x1 or 3x1 concept around the Roaduno is brilliant. 
>>
>> ... A 2x1 would give me all the complexities of a rear derailleur, plus 
>> the poorer shifting of a front system.
>>
>
>

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[RBW] For Sale: Leah’s Stuff

2024-02-05 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

I have my Purple Pocket Platy frame here, waiting for its very unique parts 
to arrive. This bike was supposed to get parts I already own, but the 
vision has evolved. It went from a fun bike with some pops of color 
to….well, full 1980s My Little Pony. Remember when you were a little girl 
(ok, mostly the RivSisters will feel me here), and you played dress up, and 
there was a stash of princess dresses AND jewelry AND shoes AND tiaras AND 
wands? All for the taking? And there was no wrong answer so you WORE IT 
ALL? This bike is a version of that. So, what was a simple idea has become 
a complex idea, and it bore out in the purchasing of custom parts with lots 
of wild anodizing. You’ll have to see it to believe it. But you’ll wait 
another 6 weeks, because I’m pretty sure that’s how long it will take for 
them to arrive. 

Never one to have things in a “parts bin” I want to move along these 
treasures. Photos and descriptions coming in second post.

Thanks for looking,
Leah

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[RBW] Re: Production Riv with largest Stack / Reach ratio

2024-02-05 Thread Bill Lindsay

The Lemond Dutch has an enormous Stack/Reach ratio.  The Small has a 
 >>60cm stack (691mm) and a <38cm reach (356mm).  The Medium has almost the 
same stack (696mm) and a 380mm reach on the nose.  The Large has a 742mm 
stack and 404mm reach.  

I imagine the Lemond Dutch is disqualified for at least 5 reasons:

1. It's expensive
2. It's an e-bike (as delivered)
3. It's carbon
4. It has a proprietary handlebar assembly
5. It is a step-through

despite the disqualifiers it nails the stack/reach ratio question.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:57:45 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:

> Question for the RBW braintrust: 
>
> Which production Riv has the largest Stack / Reach ratio?.. 
>
> For this quest, I'm curious if there's something out there that's >60cm 
> stack and <38cm reach, and >61cm front-center, wondering if I can get there 
> without a full-on custom. If not a Rivendell, what other production options 
> might folks suggest? (not interested in tall stems, but am interested in 
> tall headtubes) 
>
> TIA! 
>
> - Max "helping a T-Rex get into the sport" in A2
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Edwin W

I love all of this experimentation, and the Rev folks sure do have a lot of 
experience. 

For me, I am in the fixed gear or 1x8 or so camp. 
Fixed gear so pure and direct and connected.
1x8 more flexible, fewer problems on the hills, but not nearly as much 
easier as you would think considering there are eight times as many gears! 
I do have a city bike with IGH which is cleaner, but getting back to a 
derailed bike feels like a much more direct transfer of power. 

I would like a mechanical engineer/bike racer/someone who knows a lot to 
tell me: how much easier/faster is a geared bike than a single speed? With 
the terrain of Middle Tennessee (rolling hills) Is it 5% faster, like in a 
1 hour race the geared bike wins by 3 minutes? 10% faster (wins by 6 
minutes), or more like 1-2% faster (wins by a minute give or take)?

Edwin

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 1:01:59 PM UTC-6 DavidP wrote:

> A recent Riv newsletter compared the 3x1 to an IGH, saying the 3x1 setup 
> is similar but more mechanically transparent.
>
> If you could setup a rear shifted 1x2 or 1x3 with 8-10t jumps between cogs 
> that might be an interesting comparison. (The largest jump on a megarange 
> freewheel is in this range.)
>
> A question I keep coming back to is whether a 3x1 is more "efficient" than 
> a 1x7/8/9 in terms of drivetrain complexity (mechanically and/or mentally).
>
> Still, I like the idea of a front shifted 2x1 or 3x1 setup. If planning on 
> such a setup I'd probably just get a Homer vs the Roaduno because I always 
> end up wanting fenders on a bike like this and vertical dropouts make 
> fenders so much easier. But I do see that the Roaduno with its 120mm rear 
> spacing is a "more pure" implementation of the vision.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 12:55:20 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've always wondered what advantages a 2X1 has over a 1X2 if you are 
>> going to use derailleurs -- the 2X1 requires a FD and something like a RD 
>> while the 1X2 requires only the rear one -- but for ss sans derailleur some 
>> people say that front shifting is easier than rear shifting. Not for me, 
>> though.
>>
>> Am eagerly awaiting the close ratio Silver Rivendell IGH (with 
>> proprietary wingnuts).
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 10:51 AM Mathias Steiner  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill said
>>> >> I think the 2x1 or 3x1 concept around the Roaduno is brilliant. 
>>>
>>> ... A 2x1 would give me all the complexities of a rear derailleur, plus 
>>> the poorer shifting of a front system.
>>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Production Riv with largest Stack / Reach ratio

2024-02-05 Thread Weston Hein

For current production models, the 57cm Roadini seems like the perfect fit. 
57cm has 63cm stack, 38cm reach, and 62cm front center:

https://bikeinsights.com/bikes/5bb29e327581960016665a2c-rivendell-bicycle-works-roadini?build=base&version=2023

In stock at Riv too!

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Lemond Dutch has an enormous Stack/Reach ratio.  The Small has a 
>  >>60cm stack (691mm) and a <38cm reach (356mm).  The Medium has almost the 
> same stack (696mm) and a 380mm reach on the nose.  The Large has a 742mm 
> stack and 404mm reach.  
>
> I imagine the Lemond Dutch is disqualified for at least 5 reasons:
>
> 1. It's expensive
> 2. It's an e-bike (as delivered)
> 3. It's carbon
> 4. It has a proprietary handlebar assembly
> 5. It is a step-through
>
> despite the disqualifiers it nails the stack/reach ratio question.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:57:45 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>
>> Question for the RBW braintrust: 
>>
>> Which production Riv has the largest Stack / Reach ratio?.. 
>>
>> For this quest, I'm curious if there's something out there that's >60cm 
>> stack and <38cm reach, and >61cm front-center, wondering if I can get there 
>> without a full-on custom. If not a Rivendell, what other production options 
>> might folks suggest? (not interested in tall stems, but am interested in 
>> tall headtubes) 
>>
>> TIA! 
>>
>> - Max "helping a T-Rex get into the sport" in A2
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Benjamin L. Kelley

Yes&No
While I don't believe the Surly Ultra New hubs lack of a quoted weight
limit means they are unlimited, I do believe it implies that any reasonable
weights are not a problem.
Whereas the Phil ones have a limit specified.

If a company tells me there is a weight limit, I'm inclined to agree/obey
as that probably exists for a reason.
If a company specifies no weight limit, I'm inclined to think there is a
weight limit, but it's probably not an issue for most use cases.
Especially Surly products that I feel probably get a lot more abuse than
some other companies products.

As a rider that is beyond the combined weight limit of the Phil hubs, I
won't buy them any time soon and will stick with the Surly's.
I should keep an eye on the Phil ones tho as I believe the weight limit use
to be 250lbs and has changed, and possibility in the future could go up I
hope.

I was curious what something like the Surly Big Dummy used for hubs, since
they have a combined bike/cargo/rider rating of 400+lbs.
But it doesn't appear Surly is using Surly hubs on any of their complete
bikes anymore.  I assume this is a WTB assimilation/price/brand degradation
issue.

--ben in KC



On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:12 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Do you interpret the absence of a weight rating on the Surly Ultra New to
> mean it's unlimited, and therefore stronger/more reliable than the Phil?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:18:47 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>
>> One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil
>> and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating.
>> Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic.
>> Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs.
>>
>> I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to
>> fiddle with on your bike when its locked up.
>> I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and
>> I really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts.
>>
>> --ben in KC
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly
>>> offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor
>>> models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model.
>>>
>>> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a
>>> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice
>>> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost
>>> far less than my Phils.
>>>
>>> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did
>>> have my old ones converted to hollow axles.
>>>
>>> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin
>>> wheel fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs.
>>> Hollow axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts,
>>> insert QR skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New
>>> hubs come with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle
>>> conversion or any other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly
>>> steel, while the fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade)
>>> for corrosion resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts
>>> tighten and loosen with a 6mm hex wrench.
>>>
>>> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:

> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has
> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed.
>
> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender?
>
> Edwin
>
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[RBW] Re: Production Riv with largest Stack / Reach ratio

2024-02-05 Thread Max S

Just looked on Riv's website and noticed that the 54.5 cm Homer has the 
closest to what I'm looking to try: 62 cm stack and 36 cm reach. Never 
looked at that frame size before, because I'm usually in the 59 cm and up 
range, but there it is! 
Any others I'm overlooking? 
- M

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 3:21:48 PM UTC-5 Weston Hein wrote:

> For current production models, the 57cm Roadini seems like the perfect 
> fit. 57cm has 63cm stack, 38cm reach, and 62cm front center:
>
>
> https://bikeinsights.com/bikes/5bb29e327581960016665a2c-rivendell-bicycle-works-roadini?build=base&version=2023
>
> In stock at Riv too!
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The Lemond Dutch has an enormous Stack/Reach ratio.  The Small has a 
>>  >>60cm stack (691mm) and a <38cm reach (356mm).  The Medium has almost the 
>> same stack (696mm) and a 380mm reach on the nose.  The Large has a 742mm 
>> stack and 404mm reach.  
>>
>> I imagine the Lemond Dutch is disqualified for at least 5 reasons:
>>
>> 1. It's expensive
>> 2. It's an e-bike (as delivered)
>> 3. It's carbon
>> 4. It has a proprietary handlebar assembly
>> 5. It is a step-through
>>
>> despite the disqualifiers it nails the stack/reach ratio question.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:57:45 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> Question for the RBW braintrust: 
>>>
>>> Which production Riv has the largest Stack / Reach ratio?.. 
>>>
>>> For this quest, I'm curious if there's something out there that's >60cm 
>>> stack and <38cm reach, and >61cm front-center, wondering if I can get there 
>>> without a full-on custom. If not a Rivendell, what other production options 
>>> might folks suggest? (not interested in tall stems, but am interested in 
>>> tall headtubes) 
>>>
>>> TIA! 
>>>
>>> - Max "helping a T-Rex get into the sport" in A2
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

2024-02-05 Thread Bill Lindsay

Patrick Moore claims to have "always" wondered:  "I've always wondered what 
advantages a 2X1 has over a 1X2 if you are going to use derailleurs"

Can you be more specific about this 1x2 with a rear derailleur that you are 
comparing?  Is this a bike you have?  Have had earlier?  Saw in person?  Or 
are these 1x2 and 2x1 machines just imaginary build concepts?  

Anyway, in my opinion, I think 2x1 would be a lousy choice for Patrick 
Moore.  A Patrick Moore 2-speed is a bike that has two gears that are 
practically the same.  Like a 74 and a 66 or something like that. 
 Achieving two gears that are basically the same would be easy with a two 
speed freewheel and a rear derailleur.  A Patrick Moore 2 speed is for 12 
mile grocery runs or chasing down young 'uns on the MUP, or grunting up the 
tramway hill at 30RPM in with a devout and severe mindset of 
self-flagellation.  

The place where a 2x1 gets more interesting, in my opinion, is when you 
want two gears that are not right on top of each other.  For example, a 70+ 
inch gear for the flats and a <50 inch gear for actual climbing (or even 
<40).  There's no 2-speed freewheel off the shelf that has like an 18 and a 
26T cog.  Even if you built something, or cobbled something on a cassette 
body, getting a rear derailleur to shift that would be tough.  A Patrick 
Moore two speed in the front would look like a half-step.  Like maybe a 18T 
cog with a 48 and a 45T ring, plus a tensioner.  

Note that NONE of the Riv staff 2x1 or 3x1 builds has the ultra narrow 
spread of a Patrick Moore bike.  It reminds me of how I would give a 
60-second crash course on shifting at the bike shop when every single bike 
was a 3x7 mountain bike:  I would tell them that the terrain should make it 
obvious which chainring you are in:  Middle ring for just noodling around. 
 Big ring for going fast after you have a good head of steam.  Granny ring 
for going up a steep hill.  After that obvious choice, then shift the rear 
on feel.  Little easier this way, little harder that way.  A 3x1 is exactly 
the same, in my view, with no rear derailleur.  

So, in short, the thing that you've "always wondered" is that a 2x1 or 3x1 
has no advantages for the very narrow build type that you tend to feature. 
 You've got your Patrick Moore build envelope all figured out.  That's my 
opinion anyway.  I'm looking forward to putting my new-to-me 3x1 Rivendell 
through its paces, starting maybe in March.  I have some self-flagellation 
of my own to get done before that.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 9:55:20 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've always wondered what advantages a 2X1 has over a 1X2 if you are going 
> to use derailleurs -- the 2X1 requires a FD and something like a RD while 
> the 1X2 requires only the rear one -- but for ss sans derailleur some 
> people say that front shifting is easier than rear shifting. Not for me, 
> though.
>
> Am eagerly awaiting the close ratio Silver Rivendell IGH (with proprietary 
> wingnuts).
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 10:51 AM Mathias Steiner  
> wrote:
>
>> Bill said
>> >> I think the 2x1 or 3x1 concept around the Roaduno is brilliant. 
>>
>> ... A 2x1 would give me all the complexities of a rear derailleur, plus 
>> the poorer shifting of a front system.
>>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-02-05 Thread Doug Hansford

Hi Ahmed,I hope things are good for you. I still am looking to buy a 54 Roadini. Is yours the current geometry? Let’s work out a sale. 706-614-3592Doug Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 6:21 PM, Kim H. wrote:@Doug -Maybe the lighting in the photos are not true to the color of Sergio green despite the wording being so ? ... or ? At any rate, I hope you find what you are looking for in less time than you anticipate. Maybe it will be a serendipity experience, like it was with and my blue Clem. Kim Hetzel.On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 11:57:40 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:Hi Kim,Yeah they do! The price is higher but if I really want green then that is my only option. Orange is available used for less money. Decisions, decisions... :-)DougOn Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 11:08:26 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:Blue Lug has a Rivendell 54 Roadini Framset in Sergio Green in stock !https://global.bluelug.com/rivendell-roadini-frame-set-sergio-green.htmlKim Hetzel.On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:The first run used mid-reach (47-57mm) brakes, the current model uses long-reach like Tektro R559. On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:58:57 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Does the orange one have a different spec than the new ones? The dropouts are perhaps different? Perhaps tire clearance as well? Just asking. The Roaduno changed my mind. I have a tigged Riv (Clem) and a fillet brazed one (Gus). So if I am to have a (completely unnecessary) third Riv I decided it should be fully lugged.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 13, 2024, at 3:39 PM, Doug H. wrote:I did and have exchanged emails with him. Nice guy and that is a good price. I'm hoping for one of the green framesets but if one doesn't come along I may buy that orange one if it's still available. Thank you for the heads up!DougOn Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 3:18:51 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Doug, did you happen to see the 54 for sale on Craigslist, Cincinnati? I have talked to the guy & the price was down from $1,200 to just $950. It’s NOS or new never built or whatever. Looks new & is orange so from a previous batch? I seriously considered it as I could drive to pick it up but decided I did not need it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 13, 2024, at 12:24 PM, Doug H. wrote:I wanted to bump this up one time to see if anyone has a 54 for sale. I could buy a 50 from Riv but the saddle would be higher than I prefer on that size.Thanks,DougOn Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:That is helpful Brian. Thank you. And, nice job on the sand-stand!DougOn Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5 Brian Cunningham wrote:Here's a visual, if it helps, of what a 54 looks like with approx. 74cm saddle height. If it's not instructive in terms of sizing, at least it can show you the possibilities of creating a quasi-kickstand out of sand.BrianOn Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:18:35 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:It generally fits. He would be at the very top of what they suggest for that size but if going for a road fit with drops being at the top is preferable to being at the bottom. Most of their "size up" philosophy is based on upright relaxed riding.On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:55:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:This is somewhat surprising as it does not seem to align with Riv’s published size suggestions? I too am 5’10” & ride with a 72cm saddle height. Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Doug H. wrote:I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell and he suggested a size 50 Roadini for me. I'm 5'10" with an 83 PBH and 71.5" saddle height. Since that size is in stock I'll probably get a frameset to build up. Thanks all.DougOn Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 5:28:34 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:Frameset or complete would work. Doug HansfordAthens, Ga

Re: [RBW] Rapid rise derailleur rec

2024-02-05 Thread Armand Kizirian

If anyone has a *silver* xtr RD-m960 please message me for an easy sale. 

On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Thank you to everyone for your sound advice. I have ordered a few NOS 
> derailleurs to give them a try.
> Best,
> Rob
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 1:16 AM John Dewey  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification, Robert. 
>>
>> It's nice to have someone with the *actually* f*actual* cred chime in. 
>> And also delighted to know that I'm not wasting all that effort as I put 
>> the horse up at the end of the day.
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 7:19 PM Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a metallurgist and licensed PE - relaxing RD spring absolutely 
>>> extends spring life.  
>>>
>>> OP's question - Microshift R10 (made by Sun XCD)
>>>
>>> https://www.charlottecycles.com/product/microshift-r10-rear-derailleur-377496-1.htm
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 11:08:38 AM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote:
>>>
 BTW, another little 'pro' tip 🙃

 When you put your bike up, release tension on RD by shifting to the end 
 so that spring is relaxed. For sure, I have no empirical evidence this 
 extends spring life / strength, but it can't hurt, right?

 Jock

 On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:56 AM John Dewey  wrote:

> Robert, I've been shifting with XT M760 RR on JD bikes for many years. 
> No derailleur envy or interest in experimenting with other systems. I 
> collected them and so very happy I did. They were plentiful and 
> reasonably 
> priced...until they weren't.
>
> Grant is now building RR rear mechs, too, as I bet y'all know. It's 
> beneficial to have the power going up the cassette when you need the 
> extra 
> juice.
>
> BTW, YMMV...but I'm not so good at shifting back & forth, i.e. moving 
> from RR / normal / RR / normal. I find it difficult to switch habits.
>
> Jock
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:05 AM Robert Blunt  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was wondering if anyone could make a recommendation on which 
>> Shimano 9 speed rapid rise derailleur you have had the best experience 
>> with 
>> and which has sufficient amounts of silver on it to look ok.
>> Robert Blunt
>> Pennington NJ
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Re: [RBW] Rapid rise derailleur rec

2024-02-05 Thread Donzaemon

For those of you who are running RD-M960s with friction shifters, are any 
of you using them with a Road Link and a cassette with a 40t or larger big 
cog? I'm running this exact config on my Homer and I'm not pleased with the 
shifting experience. Shifting to the middle rings results in what seems to 
be two clunks (gear slipping?) before fully engaging. The ride is also 
somewhat rough on the higher gears. I haven't tried switching to a smaller 
cassette and ditching the Road Link yet, but i'm tempted to switch to a top 
normal RD first. 

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 5:43:13 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> If anyone has a *silver* xtr RD-m960 please message me for an easy sale. 
>
> On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:
>
>> Thank you to everyone for your sound advice. I have ordered a few NOS 
>> derailleurs to give them a try.
>> Best,
>> Rob
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 1:16 AM John Dewey  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification, Robert. 
>>>
>>> It's nice to have someone with the *actually* f*actual* cred chime in. 
>>> And also delighted to know that I'm not wasting all that effort as I put 
>>> the horse up at the end of the day.
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 7:19 PM Ron Mc  wrote:
>>>
 I'm a metallurgist and licensed PE - relaxing RD spring absolutely 
 extends spring life.  

 OP's question - Microshift R10 (made by Sun XCD)

 https://www.charlottecycles.com/product/microshift-r10-rear-derailleur-377496-1.htm

 On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 11:08:38 AM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote:

> BTW, another little 'pro' tip 🙃
>
> When you put your bike up, release tension on RD by shifting to the 
> end so that spring is relaxed. For sure, I have no empirical evidence 
> this 
> extends spring life / strength, but it can't hurt, right?
>
> Jock
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:56 AM John Dewey  wrote:
>
>> Robert, I've been shifting with XT M760 RR on JD bikes for many 
>> years. No derailleur envy or interest in experimenting with other 
>> systems. 
>> I collected them and so very happy I did. They were plentiful and 
>> reasonably priced...until they weren't.
>>
>> Grant is now building RR rear mechs, too, as I bet y'all know. It's 
>> beneficial to have the power going up the cassette when you need the 
>> extra 
>> juice.
>>
>> BTW, YMMV...but I'm not so good at shifting back & forth, i.e. moving 
>> from RR / normal / RR / normal. I find it difficult to switch habits.
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:05 AM Robert Blunt  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I was wondering if anyone could make a recommendation on which 
>>> Shimano 9 speed rapid rise derailleur you have had the best experience 
>>> with 
>>> and which has sufficient amounts of silver on it to look ok.
>>> Robert Blunt
>>> Pennington NJ
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[RBW] FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen - Toyo Version - 63cm

2024-02-05 Thread MCT

Selling my Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen frameset, so frame, fork, and headset. 
The frame is in outstanding shape as shown in the pictures. The stem and 
handlebars are not included in the price. It is the Toyo version so made in 
Japan. This is a catch and release as I bought it a few months ago from 
here or ibob.

The size is 63cm. You can find the geometry for the Toyo Homer at the 
google sheets below. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4

Pictures here 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-35Bc9y6EwECQVwe1QqF9aq-5SoCyVB_?usp=sharing

Please let me know if you have any questions or want to see a picture of 
something specific. 
The price is $1,500 shipped CONUS. 

Thanks, Matt in OKC

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Re: [RBW] For Sale: Leah’s Stuff

2024-02-05 Thread Pam Bikes

Tempted on the pedals but those pins would eat my shins.

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 2:35:02 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> First up, the offerings:
>
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> Now, onto the product descriptions:
>
> 1. Microshift shifters: I love these. Love the red. They are sold out on 
> Riv’s website. Originally $60, you pay $40, plus shipping.
> [image: image2.jpeg]
>
> 2. You can call it a crank/chainring but I call it my Shark Teeth. Buy my 
> Shark Teeth! Riv sells these for $280. You can have this one for $180, 
> plus shipping.
> [image: image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg]
>
>
> 3. Brake Levers: Shimano DXR MX70: MSRP: $74, pay $50, plus shipping
> [image: image5.jpeg]
>
> 4. Velo Orange Levers:
> These have a gentle pink hue. They used to be anodized a rich raspberry 
> but the sun faded them. If you want a little color but not a lot, these are 
> a nice hint of pink. They are feather-light.  Originally $85, yours for 
> $55, plus shipping.
>
> [image: image9.jpeg]
>
> 5. Brooks B67: This was mounted only a brief time and got maybe 50 miles 
> of riding. It looks pretty much mint. Retails for $170; yours for $125, 
> plus shipping.
> [image: image6.jpeg][image: image7.jpeg]
>
> 6. Deity Deftrap Pedals: These are just the best pedals. Inexpensive, so 
> comfortable and I like the pop of color they give a bike, esp a blue bike. 
> These retail for $58, but you can have them for $25, plus shipping.
> [image: image8.jpeg]
>
> 7. V Brakes: Riv lists them for $20, but for you: FREE! Just pay the 
> shipping.
> [image: image10.jpeg]
>
> Thanks for shopping at my store. 😉
> Leah
>
> On Feb 5, 2024, at 2:14 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I have my Purple Pocket Platy frame here, waiting for its very unique 
> parts to arrive. This bike was supposed to get parts I already own, but the 
> vision has evolved. It went from a fun bike with some pops of color 
> to….well, full 1980s My Little Pony. Remember when you were a little girl 
> (ok, mostly the RivSisters will feel me here), and you played dress up, and 
> there was a stash of princess dresses AND jewelry AND shoes AND tiaras AND 
> wands? All for the taking? And there was no wrong answer so you WORE IT 
> ALL? This bike is a version of that. So, what was a simple idea has become 
> a complex idea, and it bore out in the purchasing of custom parts with lots 
> of wild anodizing. You’ll have to see it to believe it. But you’ll wait 
> another 6 weeks, because I’m pretty sure that’s how long it will take for 
> them to arrive. 
>
>
> Never one to have things in a “parts bin” I want to move along these 
> treasures. Photos and descriptions coming in second post.
>
> Thanks for looking,
> Leah
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[RBW] WTB: All Rounder

2024-02-05 Thread Hoch in ut

Looking for an All Rounder. Not sure what the sizing was, but my PBH is 
83.3cm at 5’11”. 

I’ll most likely equip it with moustache or similar “sporty” bars. 

Please let me know if you have one available. 

I may be talked into a pre-MIT Atlantis or Hunqapillar. Thanks. 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: All Rounder

2024-02-05 Thread Brian Turner

If not an AR, a 54.5cm or 56cm Toyo or Waterford Atlantis 26” will be nearly the same. Probably easier to score, too.I’m 5’8” with a 83 PBH, and riding a 54.5 Atlantis. Could just as easily ride a 56cm.- Brian On Feb 5, 2024, at 10:26 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:Looking for an All Rounder. Not sure what the sizing was, but my PBH is 83.3cm at 5’11”. I’ll most likely equip it with moustache or similar “sporty” bars. Please let me know if you have one available. I may be talked into a pre-MIT Atlantis or Hunqapillar. Thanks. 



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Re: [RBW] For Sale: Leah’s Stuff

2024-02-05 Thread Kim H.

@Pam -
On my Clem I have the Lambda/ Monarch pedals with pedal extensions, all of 
which have pedal spikes. For me to protect my shins and my rain pants, I 
bought these:

https://www.amazon.com/Neoprene-Leg-Gaiters-Protection-Windproof/dp/B00YHPGHGU/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=leg+guards&qid=1707193415&sr=8-7

I highly recommend them. I have had them for five months now. They work 
very well in protecting both my shins and pants.

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 7:19:56 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Tempted on the pedals but those pins would eat my shins.
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 2:35:02 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> First up, the offerings:
>>
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>> Now, onto the product descriptions:
>>
>> 1. Microshift shifters: I love these. Love the red. They are sold out on 
>> Riv’s website. Originally $60, you pay $40, plus shipping.
>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>>
>> 2. You can call it a crank/chainring but I call it my Shark Teeth. Buy my 
>> Shark Teeth! Riv sells these for $280. You can have this one for $180, 
>> plus shipping.
>> [image: image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> 3. Brake Levers: Shimano DXR MX70: MSRP: $74, pay $50, plus shipping
>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>
>> 4. Velo Orange Levers:
>> These have a gentle pink hue. They used to be anodized a rich raspberry 
>> but the sun faded them. If you want a little color but not a lot, these are 
>> a nice hint of pink. They are feather-light.  Originally $85, yours for 
>> $55, plus shipping.
>>
>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>
>> 5. Brooks B67: This was mounted only a brief time and got maybe 50 miles 
>> of riding. It looks pretty much mint. Retails for $170; yours for $125, 
>> plus shipping.
>> [image: image6.jpeg][image: image7.jpeg]
>>
>> 6. Deity Deftrap Pedals: These are just the best pedals. Inexpensive, so 
>> comfortable and I like the pop of color they give a bike, esp a blue bike. 
>> These retail for $58, but you can have them for $25, plus shipping.
>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>
>> 7. V Brakes: Riv lists them for $20, but for you: FREE! Just pay the 
>> shipping.
>> [image: image10.jpeg]
>>
>> Thanks for shopping at my store. 😉
>> Leah
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2024, at 2:14 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have my Purple Pocket Platy frame here, waiting for its very unique 
>> parts to arrive. This bike was supposed to get parts I already own, but the 
>> vision has evolved. It went from a fun bike with some pops of color 
>> to….well, full 1980s My Little Pony. Remember when you were a little girl 
>> (ok, mostly the RivSisters will feel me here), and you played dress up, and 
>> there was a stash of princess dresses AND jewelry AND shoes AND tiaras AND 
>> wands? All for the taking? And there was no wrong answer so you WORE IT 
>> ALL? This bike is a version of that. So, what was a simple idea has become 
>> a complex idea, and it bore out in the purchasing of custom parts with lots 
>> of wild anodizing. You’ll have to see it to believe it. But you’ll wait 
>> another 6 weeks, because I’m pretty sure that’s how long it will take for 
>> them to arrive. 
>>
>>
>> Never one to have things in a “parts bin” I want to move along these 
>> treasures. Photos and descriptions coming in second post.
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: All Rounder

2024-02-05 Thread Hoch in ut


Yes, that would wor—Toyo or Waterford Atlantis in ~55 or 56 size. 
Preferably 26” or maybe 650b. 

I’ve tried the long chainstays and it does not work for me. 
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> If not an AR, a 54.5cm or 56cm Toyo or Waterford Atlantis 26” will be 
> nearly the same. Probably easier to score, too.
>
> I’m 5’8” with a 83 PBH, and riding a 54.5 Atlantis. Could just as easily 
> ride a 56cm.
>
> - Brian 
>
> On Feb 5, 2024, at 10:26 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> Looking for an All Rounder. Not sure what the sizing was, but my PBH is 
> 83.3cm at 5’11”. 
>
>
> I’ll most likely equip it with moustache or similar “sporty” bars. 
>
> Please let me know if you have one available. 
>
> I may be talked into a pre-MIT Atlantis or Hunqapillar. Thanks. 
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Dynamo gear and Nitto handlebars (SF Bay)

2024-02-05 Thread Stephen Durfee

Hi Chris - I've been thinking about a dynamo set-up for my Homer...I'm not 
that familiar with the options, so just reading whatever I can find about 
the items you have chosen. Are you upgrading to a new system?

I live in Napa and work in SF, so not that far from Menlo Parksd

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-8 CMR wrote:

> Prices are for a local deal picked up in Menlo Park, I am half a mile from 
> the Cal Train station. Really hoping not to ship or split parts just yet.
>
> Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/
>
>
>
> *Dynamo set up - $400*
>
> *Front wheel *Schmidt Son to Mavic Open Sport, butted spokes, all silver 
> in good but used condition.
>
>
> *Front Light*Busch and Mueller IQ-XS – silver, used 100 miles, uncut 
> cable length, some storage marks pictured.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/iq-xs-1?_pos=3&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>
>
> *Rear Lights*Busch & Müller Toplight Line Brake Plus Pulsating tail light 
> – used 25 miles, great condition.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/dyno-rack-light
>
> Busch & Müller SecuZED Plus Dyno Tail Light for Fender, Frame or Seat Post 
> – looks like it might be missing a bracket, you can likely call Riv for 
> one, or MacGyver a threaded attachment.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/xfhz66816?_pos=2&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>
> B&M Saddle Rail Bracket – never used
> https://www.clevercycles.com/b-m-saddle-rail-bracket.html
>
> Schmidt dynamo tail light wire
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/schimdt-wire?_pos=6&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>
> Two rear B&M cables
>
> Schmidt coaxial connector
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/lights/schmidt-coaxial-adapter/
>
>
> Nitto R14 – used condition, all required hardware – extra $100 
>
>
>
> *Nitto handlebars – all 3 for $200*Nitto albatross (heat-treated 
> aluminum) – unridden but scratched from installing it on a tight stem - $85
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-albatross-bar-cromo-55cm-x-25-4
>
> Nitto choco bar (heat-treated aluminum) – not pictured, I can send one if 
> interested. Ridden 200 miles, scratched from a tight stem but overall good 
> condition - $85
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-choco-norm-bar-alu-ht-54cm-x-25-4-100mm-sleeve-tandem-162491
>
> Nitto kite bars B355 (heat-treated aluminum) – new in package – $50
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dynamo gear and Nitto handlebars (SF Bay)

2024-02-05 Thread CMR

Kite bars and Nitto rack sold, albatross bars pending.

Regarding the question: I am only selling because of a lifestyle 
adjustment. I realized 99% of my rides are a mile long and during day time 
hours so the money might be better spent on baby food! I have a much 
cheaper blinkie I am using to be seen. For seeing, dynamo lights are 
unmatched, with perfect wide beams. And for longer rides I always thought 
it was worth the price because I never had to worry about a charge, 
especially since most lights are USB chargeable now without an easy battery 
back up.

As for the parts, I chose Schmidt because it’s a stunning and high quality 
hub with famous reliability. I chose the lights because Rivendell and Peter 
White endorsed them and know more about lights than I ever will.

Happy to answer any other questions!




On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:04:32 PM UTC-8 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Chris - I've been thinking about a dynamo set-up for my Homer...I'm not 
> that familiar with the options, so just reading whatever I can find about 
> the items you have chosen. Are you upgrading to a new system?
>
> I live in Napa and work in SF, so not that far from Menlo Parksd
>
> On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-8 CMR wrote:
>
>> Prices are for a local deal picked up in Menlo Park, I am half a mile 
>> from the Cal Train station. Really hoping not to ship or split parts just 
>> yet.
>>
>> Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dynamo set up - $400*
>>
>> *Front wheel *Schmidt Son to Mavic Open Sport, butted spokes, all silver 
>> in good but used condition.
>>
>>
>> *Front Light*Busch and Mueller IQ-XS – silver, used 100 miles, uncut 
>> cable length, some storage marks pictured.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/iq-xs-1?_pos=3&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>>
>>
>> *Rear Lights*Busch & Müller Toplight Line Brake Plus Pulsating tail 
>> light – used 25 miles, great condition.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/dyno-rack-light
>>
>> Busch & Müller SecuZED Plus Dyno Tail Light for Fender, Frame or Seat 
>> Post – looks like it might be missing a bracket, you can likely call Riv 
>> for one, or MacGyver a threaded attachment.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/xfhz66816?_pos=2&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>>
>> B&M Saddle Rail Bracket – never used
>> https://www.clevercycles.com/b-m-saddle-rail-bracket.html
>>
>> Schmidt dynamo tail light wire
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/schimdt-wire?_pos=6&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>>
>> Two rear B&M cables
>>
>> Schmidt coaxial connector
>>
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/lights/schmidt-coaxial-adapter/
>>
>>
>> Nitto R14 – used condition, all required hardware – extra $100 
>>
>>
>>
>> *Nitto handlebars – all 3 for $200*Nitto albatross (heat-treated 
>> aluminum) – unridden but scratched from installing it on a tight stem - $85
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-albatross-bar-cromo-55cm-x-25-4
>>
>> Nitto choco bar (heat-treated aluminum) – not pictured, I can send one if 
>> interested. Ridden 200 miles, scratched from a tight stem but overall good 
>> condition - $85
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-choco-norm-bar-alu-ht-54cm-x-25-4-100mm-sleeve-tandem-162491
>>
>> Nitto kite bars B355 (heat-treated aluminum) – new in package – $50
>>
>

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