Bill said >> I think the 2x1 or 3x1 concept around the Roaduno is brilliant.
That concept is alien to me -- if I understood right, we're talking about single-cog-in-back, front-derailleur shifting. I don't know what problem that would solve. I "get" the single-speed thing, I think. I've been toying with the concept, purposely not shifting my old 3x6 Motobécane last summer for days at a time. It's relatively flat here in mid-Michigan, and for a commuter bike, the simplicity is great. In the end, I was too lazy to take the shifting apparatus off. I'm still considering it for a future build, makes for a great lockup bike with only five or six moving parts ;) Now for winter riding, single speed would make perfect sense. I went more complicated and built a rear wheel with a Shimano Nexus 3speed hub. Since I have cobbled-together shifting it's only a two speed, Low and Direct, and that's plenty. There's no shift mechanism exposed to the salt, only a front rim brake, and the rear coaster brake is great on snow and ice. A 2x1 would give me all the complexities of a rear derailleur, plus the poorer shifting of a front system. Three speeds is cool, but then a 3sp IGH is a great choice, and the clean look is a bonus. Which is I guess why we have all these bikes to choose from. Different strokes and all that. cheers -m On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 12:12:00 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Do you interpret the absence of a weight rating on the Surly Ultra New to > mean it's unlimited, and therefore stronger/more reliable than the Phil? > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:18:47 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote: > >> One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil >> and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating. >> Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic. >> Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs. >> >> I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people to >> fiddle with on your bike when its locked up. >> I've replaced pretty much ever QR skewer with a bolt skewer anyways, and >> I really appreciate the Surly's being threaded for bolts. >> >> --ben in KC >> >> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:01 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly >>> offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor >>> models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model. >>> >>> I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a >>> couple, the first 18 years ago and used them well -- and they are very nice >>> hubs; practically speaking they work as well and last as long as but cost >>> far less than my Phils. >>> >>> Apparently the shells are the same, and here's the difference. I did >>> have my old ones converted to hollow axles. >>> >>> Ultra New hubs use hollow axles of our own design mated to threadin >>> wheel fixing bolts, as opposed to the nutted axles of our previous hubs. >>> Hollow axles make conversion to quick release super easy (remove bolts, >>> insert QR skewer, install wheel into frame or fork, ride). All Ultra New >>> hubs come with fixing bolts, but all are QR compatible without axle >>> conversion or any other extra crap. Neato. The axles are made of CroMoly >>> steel, while the fixing bolts are 10.9 stainless steel (i.e. high grade) >>> for corrosion resistance, high strength, and good looks, and the bolts >>> tighten and loosen with a 6mm hex wrench. >>> >>> I highly recommend a QR skewer -- strong steal internal cam, of course. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 2:16:12 PM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has >>>>> 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed. >>>>> >>>>> What else is out there that can take a 38mm (or so) tire with a fender? >>>>> >>>>> Edwin >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgs-J1ns9NF0CioAvznxhrp-Gi_d-pQvEzyeWq6eHz%2BtFQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgs-J1ns9NF0CioAvznxhrp-Gi_d-pQvEzyeWq6eHz%2BtFQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/69a5c95b-f91b-42b2-a4dd-8302a0430076n%40googlegroups.com.
