[RBW] Re: FS: Canti-Saluki 62cm

[brendonoid]

What a gorgeous bike and awesome build... want it so bad.

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen Creaking!!!

[brendonoid]

I had a click for six months that only happened when I stood up or climbed 
hills. I went absolutely crazy finding it.

It was the front derailleur clamp being just loose enough that the hinge 
moved enough to click as the frame around the bb flexed when I climbed 
hills... (79kg on a 63cm Hilsen) half turn on the front derailleur clamp 
bolt fixed the problem.
Just leaving this here as an incredibly unlikely scenario that has happened 
to at least one person.

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[RBW] Recommend a film camera

[John W]

Almost all autofocus SLR camera / lens systems will allow you to focus 
manually. 

If you want the manual feel, but with good auto exposure capabilities, search 
for a used Nikon FM3A. It was the last of its type ever made by Nikon and as 
such you’re still able to find ones in mint / NOS condition. It’s also one of 
my personal favorites. 

If your budget is lower, search for a used Nikon F3HP, arguably the best pro 
camera ever made. It is still the benchmark for viewfinder quality if you wear 
eyeglasses. 

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Re: [RBW] Recommend a film camera

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Best film camera I have found for taking photos while riding (and I’ve tried 
many) is the Olympus XA or XA-2 or -4.  The XA-4 is rare and more expensive, 
but you find an XA or XA-2 fairly cheap on eBay. Both take great photos. The 
XA-2 is more automatic and, for me, a better choice for taking quick shots. The 
XA offers more precise focusing and exposure control, but that adds a little 
more complexity to there shooting process. 

All the CA cameras have a very nice Zuiko lens and are pretty bulletproof. 
Clamshell design protects the lens when you’re not using it, so I can toss it 
in my handlebar bag without worrying about it. 

John Bennett has used both. Perhaps he can chime in with his thoughts?

–Eric N


> On Aug 16, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Drw  wrote:
> 
> I think this is on topic. I’ve been semi inspired by all the camera content, 
> but moreso, after having a kid, I’m becoming more interested In having hard 
> copy documentation of things (I have a printer. I never print anything), for 
> him to have when he gets older. 
> 
> I know my way around the operation of cameras, not expertly, but I’ve taken 
> some classes etc. what I have no idea about is what brands, models, years are 
> good.
> 
> Is there something between a full manual and a full automatic? I think I’d 
> probably not end up using a manual slr at this point in my life. A point and 
> shoot may be better, but something in between would be cool if it exists.
> 
> So what do people like for good quality, durable, quick/easy to use cameras? 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Pitted German mirror and possible WTB the mirror

[REC (Roberta)]

I think you are probably right, as it doesn't feel like a glass and silver 
mirror.  Probably why it is so light.   Are the silver stickers 
replaceable?  I got a replacement mirror from a fabulous forum member, but 
it might go bad in a few years.

You can see the pits best in Erl's picture and what I see in the mirror 
when riding on my pic.




On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:26:19 AM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:

> I have two that are in similar shape. I always thought they were just 
> silver stickers over plastic? Maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: [RBW] Recommend a film camera

[John Woo]

Agreed. Those XA cameras were the best. I owned two and they each died when the 
shutter button stopped working. I think this was a common problem. Still, if I 
ever got back into pocket 35mm photography I’d look for a good one. 

The Olympus Stylus Epic was a sort of spiritual follow up to that camera. It 
was written up in a things-we-like column in a Riv newsletter, IIRC. Can be 
found pretty cheap used. This is a compact camera without much manual control, 
and they won’t work without batteries. 

Look also for a Contax T2 or T3. The T3 will fit in a bike jersey. 

> On Aug 16, 2019, at 8:29 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Best film camera I have found for taking photos while riding (and I’ve tried 
> many) is the Olympus XA or XA-2 or -4.  The XA-4 is rare and more expensive, 
> but you find an XA or XA-2 fairly cheap on eBay. Both take great photos. The 
> XA-2 is more automatic and, for me, a better choice for taking quick shots. 
> The XA offers more precise focusing and exposure control, but that adds a 
> little more complexity to there shooting process. 
> 
> All the CA cameras have a very nice Zuiko lens and are pretty bulletproof. 
> Clamshell design protects the lens when you’re not using it, so I can toss it 
> in my handlebar bag without worrying about it. 
> 
> John Bennett has used both. Perhaps he can chime in with his thoughts?
> 
> –Eric N
> 
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Drw  wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is on topic. I’ve been semi inspired by all the camera 
>> content, but moreso, after having a kid, I’m becoming more interested In 
>> having hard copy documentation of things (I have a printer. I never print 
>> anything), for him to have when he gets older. 
>> 
>> I know my way around the operation of cameras, not expertly, but I’ve taken 
>> some classes etc. what I have no idea about is what brands, models, years 
>> are good.
>> 
>> Is there something between a full manual and a full automatic? I think I’d 
>> probably not end up using a manual slr at this point in my life. A point and 
>> shoot may be better, but something in between would be cool if it exists.
>> 
>> So what do people like for good quality, durable, quick/easy to use cameras? 
>> 
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[RBW] Recommend a film camera

[ascpgh]

I have a Rollei compact 35mm full manual that has a matching needle light meter 
on the top of the case. When you load film, set the ASA on the dial on top. 
Pick aperture or shutter speed as your priority, it sets that needle in the 
light meter and you adjust the other until the two align and you’re set. It’s a 
manual focus with fixed viewfinder, so you guess a bit up close but beyond 20’ 
it’s infinity.

Been a solid tool for me since the ‘70s. Easy to tote, ready for use and set 
for my compositions.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

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[RBW] Simple0ne enjoyment

[Jeff B]

I bought a Simple0ne from a RBWOB member a while ago because my friend had 
a single speed with chubby tires and convinced me I should do the same. 
Funny enough he sold his this week, right after I got my bike already to 
go. When I got the bike I was not really in love with it. Something just 
felt odd. Maybe I was not used to the simplicity and quietness of single 
speeding. But now I have the bike dialed in and I could not be any happier. 
I swapped the noodle drop bars for mustache bars (which is such an easy 
swap on single speeds), changed to a rack that mounts to the fork braze-on, 
instead of the canti bosses (that rack is on my Atlantis which is old 
enough to not have fork braze-ons) and finally I mounted some huge 
GravelKings SK's to cushion the ride. The tires feel awesome and look so 
ballon like mounted to the small Velocity A23 rims, which is what made me 
fall in love with the aesthetic of this bike. I use it frequently as a 
commuter and after work quick gravel grinder. Maybe I'll go fixed later. 
Maybe I'll put a lowrider rack on it and use it as a simple camper bike. 
Who knows, it's just fun for now and it looks even better dusty so I'll 
keep riding it hard.











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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Teague Scott]

You're going down a mini-wormhole here! There are plenty of opinions out 
there... There are Olympus people, Canon people, Minolta people, Petri 
people, Hasselblad people, etc. Depending on year, all of these companies 
made cameras that excelled in ways and potentially fell short in others. 

You just need to figure out what you want in a camera. Don't shy away from 
a fully manual setup - there's always the "sunny 16" rule. I came across a 
Minolta kit for sale locally that included two bodies (SRT-102 and x700) 
and 4 lenses. I thought this would give me an awesome opportunity to get 
into the nitty-gritty of fully manual shooting with the SRT while still 
being able to fall back on aperture priority (and even fully-auto) with the 
x700 if I so desire. Both Minolta bodies, so I can move lenses around as I 
please.

A word of warning: avoid ebay. I had an unpleasant experience dealing with 
another body that arrived busted. Who knows who's to blame, but it appeared 
to have been dropped by USPS handler. The prism was messed up AND the light 
meter didn't work (seller claimed it did). You'll see TONS of 35mm 
SLRs/rangefinders on there, many with a description mentioning that the 
body/lens/whatever is *untested*. Forget it. No matter how cheap. I 
recommend buying off-market, locally. Check out the camera and run through 
all shutter speeds, wind up the film advance, fire the shutter, check light 
seals. You're far more likely to deal with someone that actually knows the 
camera vs. some yard sale scrounger.

Have fun!

- Teague

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Re: [RBW] FS Sam hillborne complete

[Travis Music]

Asking 1700 for it email me at never...@yahoo.com
Not sure how to use this google group to upload pictures 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[DHans]

Leah,
I don't want to disparage any bike mechanic but I wonder if REI has 
mechanics with much experience. I along with others would recommend new 
shifters as you have decided and take it to an LBS mechanic. Good luck!
Doug

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:29:25 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> You’re making sense to me with your fancy mechanic words, Garth! 😂 I see 
> that too, now that you say it. I ordered the new shifters and will have the 
> mechanics look at the chain when I take the bike for shifter install. 
>
> The story gets stranger. I’ve ridden the bike to school the last 2 days, 
> so about 16 miles, and the front seems to be cooperating more often than 
> not, which makes me wonder if it just needed to be broken in? But the rear 
> is GHOST SHIFTING. I know how to compensate for that weird setup, but still 
> I get at least one spasm of unwanted shifting per trip and it is so 
> unnerving. God forbid I was actually riding in traffic! 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 12:32 AM, Garth > 
> wrote:
>
>
> I noted in the photos of your bike the chain appears in the smallest rear 
> cogs and small ring and the chain doesn't have much tension. It could 
> possibly have a few too many links, and/or RD isn't up to the task. This is 
> all greek to you of course. It reminds me of how 2 people can speak the 
> same language about a subject and yet neither one knowing what one earth 
> the other is talking about.  So much for words.. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 8:27:55 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> Garth, can you figure out a way to make me such a work stand? Haha. I’m 
>> off to the internet to find the MicroShift friction shifters! 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Blahg Post Ethiopian Shoes

[Jonathan Gutoff]

They finally arrived after 13 weeks and, having worn them for about and 
hour, I think they're pretty comfortable and they seem well made. If  the 
company were more realistic about there delivery time  -- it was posted as 
20 working days plus shipping when I ordered, and when last I looked it was 
up to six weeks-- or more forthright in its communciation I'd be happy.  
If, given the work load they have, it takes three months to get an order 
fulfilled that's what it takes, but SoleRebels should tell whoever it is 
planning on ordering their shoes, or who has ordered them, what's going on.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 1:52:18 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman,central 
Colorado wrote:
>
> Keep after them. I finally got mine after hearing the same excuses.
> They didn't fit so I took them to Goodwill.
> Hope you have better luck.
> I learned my lesson. 
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 9:41 AM Jonathan Gutoff > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Another data point. Without having read the posts on this topic, I 
>> ordered a pair on May 9 of this year, 2019, at which time the website 
>> listed time to fulfillment as 20 working days plus extra time for shipping. 
>> The website now gives the time to fulfillment as six weeks  -- Ii may be 
>> that the original 12 days was not a typo, but, like the 20 working days and 
>> six weeks, an overly optomistic goal. 
>>
>> In response to a message from me, on June 19 I got the following:
>>
>> "Jonathan many thanks for your followup and  please accept my apologies 
>> for the  delay - we have been extra busy these days. Your order is  
>> being completed and you will soon get a shipment confirmation with tracking 
>> information from the order team.
>>
>> Thanks again for your business [ and your added  patience] . We are 
>> excited to get your soleRebels to you and onto your feet.
>>
>> very best regards ,
>>
>> *bethlehem tilahun alemu *
>>
>> founder & c.e.o  ,  soleRebels  footwear"
>>
>>
>> I heard nothing for several weeks. On July 10, in response to another 
>> message from me I got a email that said:
>>
>>
>> "Dear Jonathan,
>>
>> Your order will ship Wednesday, July 24, 2019 Via FedEx Express AWB# 
>> *811320214218 
>> *and from shipping day it takes four working days to deliver.   
>>
>> Our apologies for the delay.
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>>
>> very best
>>
>> Tirunesh Girma"
>>
>>
>> As of today, the order is still listed as unfulfilled and FedEx tracking 
>> has no information on the wabill number I was provided. I sent a message 
>> last night.
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Re: [RBW] Simple0ne enjoyment

[James Davis]

Gosh, what a cool bike! Even though I have a Clem L and an Atlantis, I
still pine after a 58 SimpleOne. It reminds me of my chubby-tire’d Swobo
Accomplice, which was my gateway to the Riv world. One day maybe!


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 8:37 AM Jeff B  wrote:

> I bought a Simple0ne from a RBWOB member a while ago because my friend had
> a single speed with chubby tires and convinced me I should do the same.
> Funny enough he sold his this week, right after I got my bike already to
> go. When I got the bike I was not really in love with it. Something just
> felt odd. Maybe I was not used to the simplicity and quietness of single
> speeding. But now I have the bike dialed in and I could not be any happier.
> I swapped the noodle drop bars for mustache bars (which is such an easy
> swap on single speeds), changed to a rack that mounts to the fork braze-on,
> instead of the canti bosses (that rack is on my Atlantis which is old
> enough to not have fork braze-ons) and finally I mounted some huge
> GravelKings SK's to cushion the ride. The tires feel awesome and look so
> ballon like mounted to the small Velocity A23 rims, which is what made me
> fall in love with the aesthetic of this bike. I use it frequently as a
> commuter and after work quick gravel grinder. Maybe I'll go fixed later.
> Maybe I'll put a lowrider rack on it and use it as a simple camper bike.
> Who knows, it's just fun for now and it looks even better dusty so I'll
> keep riding it hard.
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Nitto Basket Rack

[John Phillips]

For riding with heavier front loads, the Nitto 34F Big Front Rack still 
seems like a better basket-rack solution to me: stronger, more stable, able 
to carry panniers & about the same price I think.
   
   Ooops, Riv no longer carries the Big Front Rack, but that's where I 
purchased mine. Does the Big 34F no longer fit on the more recent Riv bike 
models?

   Otherwise, I love using my Nitto 32F Mini Front Rack for carrying 
smaller basket and Riv ShopSack loads. 

John

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[RBW] Re: Simple0ne enjoyment

[John Phillips]

Beautiful bike Jeff!

Makes me want to convert my Hunqapillar into a single speed.

John

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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Teague Scott]

Oh yeah, and check out some Forest Hill Film Lab 
videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbDG7XYhdWuSrRvhMcFxSeQ

Grant has mentioned him in a Blahg post or two. He does some vintage camera 
reviews that are pretty cool. He also has good videos on shooting basics.

Also, reviews for dys: https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/reviews.htm

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Re: [RBW] Identity Crisis Sale: Nitto, Sackville and more

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Hi All,

The bags and bars are gone. I am keeping the Surly 24 Pack Rack for now, but 
I’ll update this post if I decide to sell (I’ve had some interest recently) it 
later. I still have the 2 Fish cage.

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Drw]

Wormhole indeed. Thanks for all the suggestions. Fun looking at all this pretty 
stuff. I guess I should’ve specified a budget, which is in the <200$ range. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Peter White]

My favorite film camera to carry on the bike or cross country skiing was
the Rollei 35S. The Zeiss Sonnar lens is terrific. The camera weighs next
to nothing, and takes up very little space.

Peter White

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:54 AM Drw  wrote:

> Wormhole indeed. Thanks for all the suggestions. Fun looking at all this
> pretty stuff. I guess I should’ve specified a budget, which is in the <200$
> range.
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto 8cm stem

[Michael Williams]

Hey group,  Just wondering if anyone has a Nitto technomic stem in 8cm length 
that they’re not using.  Preferably 25.4 clamp but 26.0 works too.   Thank you! 
 -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Patrick Moore]

My opinion of REI's bike mechanic fell precipitously a few years ago when
the *head mechanic* told me that the rubbing pads of the Shimano disk
brakes on a bike newly bought for a friend were behaving normally and would
stop rubbing after they "wore in." Idiot. Fixed them myself.

I do like REI's merchandise, though, and I generally find the sales staff
knowledgeable and helpful.

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 8:39 AM DHans  wrote:

> Leah,
> I don't want to disparage any bike mechanic but I wonder if REI has
> mechanics with much experience
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Ryan M.]

I shoot a lot of film using a few Rolleiflex cameras and a slew of Pentax 
35mm stuff. I personally think the MeSuper and the Super Program or even 
just the Program cameras with a fixed focal length lens of your choosing 
make a really great, small setup for automatic exposure/manual focus stuff. 
One of my favorite combos for taking with me on a ride is the SMC- M 40mm 
f2.8 pancake lens on a MeSuper camera or use a combo of a 28mm and a 50mm 
f1.4.

I used to carry an Olympus Stylus Epic that had a 35mm f2.8 lens. It was 
totally automatic but worked really well. I noticed the prices of them went 
super high because apparently they were in demand so I sold it on ebay. I 
couldn't believe what I got for it.  For something super simple, something 
like that could be found. 

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:14:14 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:

> I think this is on topic. I’ve been semi inspired by all the camera 
> content, but moreso, after having a kid, I’m becoming more interested In 
> having hard copy documentation of things (I have a printer. I never print 
> anything), for him to have when he gets older. 
>
> I know my way around the operation of cameras, not expertly, but I’ve 
> taken some classes etc. what I have no idea about is what brands, models, 
> years are good. 
>
> Is there something between a full manual and a full automatic? I think I’d 
> probably not end up using a manual slr at this point in my life. A point 
> and shoot may be better, but something in between would be cool if it 
> exists. 
>
> So what do people like for good quality, durable, quick/easy to use 
> cameras? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Leah Peterson]

1. You have given me hope that all will be well with new shifters!
2. Where is that darn speed racer? Must have decided he couldn’t handle the 
hill. And certainly not in this heat.
3. Front derailleur seems to be behaving this week. I don’t know that it had 
ever been used much. When I got it, I was in MN/ND and didn’t encounter hills 
that would have required me to use FD. Here in NV, I use that granny gear every 
day on the way home from school. My MIL (original owner of the Aquaclem) never 
shifted. Ever. So, you have a bike from late 2015 that has never been shifted 
until 2019. Hmm...could that be a factor?
4. More ghost-shifting today with the rear, and the FD chattered a bit and had 
moved itself forward, independently of me. I clicked it one click back, and it 
was silent again. It’s weird and I just don’t like it. New shifters are 
supposed to arrive by Saturday.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 13, 2019, at 3:53 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> My first gen Clementine, after experiencing ghost shifts:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Every once in a while, even good companies make bad decisions. I would say 
> get rid of those shifters. Silk purses, sows ears, etc. I also believe I had 
> an issue with the rear wheel/cassette mechanism that contributed to the poor 
> performance I experienced with the original drivetrain equipment spec'd on 
> these bikes. YMMV. Good luck and get that Aquaclem back up to snuff so you 
> can show that upstart speed racer who's boss.
> 
> The front is a double with a chain guard, so I don't the derailleur itself 
> should be an issue; wasn't for me. Try swapping out the shifters and see what 
> that does. Also, was this a problem that was not there a week ago, or did the 
> bike just not get run through its paces until recently?
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 5:21:35 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Well, that was an exercise in patience and fruitlessness.
>> 
>> The gracious pair of REI mechanics took me right in. They probably rolled 
>> their eyes when they saw me for the 2nd time in 3 days, but it couldn’t be 
>> helped. I told them the situation, reiterated some of what you guys told me, 
>> and one mechanic took the bike out for a spin. Meanwhile, I prayed he’d have 
>> the worst time out there so I wouldn’t I look like a fool who can’t operate 
>> friction shifters. 
>> 
>> The mechanic came back and said, “I had all kinds of problems!” The worst of 
>> all of them, he had decided, was that the chain was slapping into the 
>> fender, and obnoxiously. He decided they’d go over the shifting once again 
>> and shave the fender away from the chain. They told me to run my errands and 
>> return.
>> 
>> I did, and they said it was working better, and I marveled at the mechanic’s 
>> good, clean work of the shaved fender, and then we talked about Rivendell. 
>> They have had some customers come in needing bar end shifters and have been 
>> at a loss. I pointed them to the silver shifters on Riv’s site on their shop 
>> computer and then left the page open so they can look at the rest of 
>> Rivendell’s offerings later, ha. 
>> 
>> I went to pay my bill and they wouldn’t allow it and after a short argument, 
>> we decided I would find the Microshifter thumbies online and bring them for 
>> installation later. And then we happily parted ways.
>> 
>> I got to the parking lot and noticed the slightest of inclines. Ah, I 
>> thought, I’ll just make a lap or two. I was excited to try out the bike with 
>> the fender no longer interfering. I tried the shifters every which way...
>> 
>> It was as bad as it’s ever been. I just didn’t have the heart to go back in 
>> there and disrupt the mechanics’ work day again. Didn’t feel like dragging 
>> them out into 107 degree heat so they could be as frustrated as me. I put 
>> the Clementine back on the rack and pointed the van toward home. Something 
>> else must be going on with the front derailleur, though it shifts like a 
>> dream on the bike stand. Go figure!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2019, at 1:01 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Front derailleur adjustment is not rocket science, and unless there is some 
>>> fundamental incompatibility between derailleur and crankset,* or between 
>>> derailleur and bottom bracket assembly spindle length*, or between 
>>> derailleur and shifter*, fixing a shifting problem is simply a matter of 
>>> proper adjustment, which any competent mechanic ought to be able to 
>>> accomplish.
>>> 
>>> The variables are throw (how far out and in the cage moves); height (the 
>>> cage has to clear the big chainring but not by too much), and angle (the 
>>> cage has to be aligned fore/aft with respect to the chainrings in such a 
>>> way as to move the chain on and off the chainrings efficiently; this 
>>> sometimes means that the cage should be very slightly offset to the 
>>> chainrings).
>>> 
>>> Can you post photos taken from directly above the front derailleur and 

Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Leah Peterson]

I feel I must take the shifters to the REI mechanics now. That was the deal - 
they wouldn’t charge me for last visit but told me to come back for shifter 
service instead. Don’t I kind of have to see them? They do understand about 
friction, they just didn’t get the set up on my Aquaclem the first time. They 
kept arguing about whether the RD was indexed. Nope. Pure friction.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> My opinion of REI's bike mechanic fell precipitously a few years ago when the 
> head mechanic told me that the rubbing pads of the Shimano disk brakes on a 
> bike newly bought for a friend were behaving normally and would stop rubbing 
> after they "wore in." Idiot. Fixed them myself.
> 
> I do like REI's merchandise, though, and I generally find the sales staff 
> knowledgeable and helpful.
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 8:39 AM DHans  wrote:
>> Leah,
>> I don't want to disparage any bike mechanic but I wonder if REI has 
>> mechanics with much experience
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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

Unless you're doing it yourself - I'll tell you how! - then it's off to REI for 
you. The new shifters will be less finicky for them, plus I/we can talk you 
through any further adjustments that may be needed. 

Just make sure they know you're doing reverse-sides with both in friction. 
They'll be tempted to mount "normal" and set the rear to index, which wouldn't 
work anyway cuz that shifter is 9-speed and your cassette is 8. 

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[RBW] Recommend a film camera

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Nothing's realer than pinhole photography. Not so good for on the bike 
snapshots, but if you've got some time to kill and an f64 sewing needle...
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Garth]

Oh boy . at this point amidst the comedy of trials and errors, who or 
what done what to/fro who or what . it's enough to speed up the Earth 
from rotating for just one moment while It rolls in Laughter !  So may as 
well break out song . it's just like riding a bike .  Liberty 
taking Flight . 

Oh if any fool ever put hands on a bike  that fool would be Me. Yes ... 
even the Me that is reading these very words and  murmuring "*what, a fool 
 surely not* *Me* ?"  
Ahahahahahaah ! 
This Me, that Me, he Me and she Me 
It's all the same Me to Me 
Everything Be Wondrously Alright 
Surely Forever Be 
All Be Allrighty ! 


 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

Party on, Garth 👊

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[RBW] Re: Pitted German mirror and possible WTB the mirror

[Joe Bernard]

One of mine is sold, still have one more if anybody needs it. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Canti-Saluki 62cm

[Hugh Smitham]

Yes let's shrink it down to a 84 pbh sized Saluki. This is my holy grail Riv. 

Hugh

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Nitto Basket Rack

[CMR]

The basket rack has a wider platform and much better supports the basket, 
and honestly almost all loads that people throw up front. The 32F is 
awesome for loaded touring but I think it's overkill for most riding, and 
looks a bit bulky. I think Riv nailed the design for the basketrack.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Canti-Saluki 62cm

[Matt Beecher]

I’m not sure I have seen a canti 58 become available, but I have a silver canti 
60 that I would be willing to trade for one.

Best regards,
Matt B
Oswego, IL

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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[John A. Bennett]

THE best camera is the Olympus OM-1n. 

The "n" is the upgraded version of the original OM-1. Well worth seeking 
out. 

Great lenses available. Start with a 50mm (the one most people paired it 
with). Then branch out to a wide (28mm) and save up for an 85mm (perfect 
for portraits). 

The camera is affordable, light, sharp, intuitive, carry-able, and super 
reliable. I don't know* anyone* who has one that has ever had one bad thing 
to say about them!

#pedalbikesshootfilm

John at Rivelo in Portland, Ore. 







https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/om1/

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 9:14:14 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I think this is on topic. I’ve been semi inspired by all the camera 
> content, but moreso, after having a kid, I’m becoming more interested In 
> having hard copy documentation of things (I have a printer. I never print 
> anything), for him to have when he gets older. 
>
> I know my way around the operation of cameras, not expertly, but I’ve 
> taken some classes etc. what I have no idea about is what brands, models, 
> years are good. 
>
> Is there something between a full manual and a full automatic? I think I’d 
> probably not end up using a manual slr at this point in my life. A point 
> and shoot may be better, but something in between would be cool if it 
> exists. 
>
> So what do people like for good quality, durable, quick/easy to use 
> cameras? 

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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Interestingly, I found myself wondering the same thing and for similar 
reasons.  Upon further consideration I kind of found myself swinging back 
to the manual side of the equation and ended up recently selling some 
camera equipment I already had, possibly something I'll come to regret 
eventually, but I decided to approach it with a minimalist view and start 
from the beginning with just the basics.  

There was certainly a sentimental aspect to my decision making here as 
well, but I ultimately decided to sell my Minolta X-700 with 50mm lens and 
a Leica/Leitz/Wetzlar 40mm lens I've been sitting on to a local camera shop 
and restrict myself to a fully manual Yashica "J" model rangefinder that 
belonged to my father, a hand me down Polaroid Spectra AF, and as a bonus 
some cheap plastic fixed lens Meikai branded film rangefinder a friend's 
father once gave me that I never even opened... still in plastic 
wrapping... until my 2 year old son just recently got his hands on it when 
he woke from his nap to find me going through a box of my camera stuff and 
insisted we open it! haha.   The friend's father was a flea market/yard 
sale/garage sale hunter and often gifting random little things which were 
always appreciated but often ended up sitting in the closet or back of a 
drawer somewhere.  It was definitely worth keeping this one around all 
these years just to see my son's excitement with what is now his first film 
camera at only 2 years old.  I had a few old rolls of Kodak color film as, 
loaded one up and spent the day shooting away.  Should be interesting to 
see how his first roll turns out (I admittedly took most shots as he was 
generally just holding it up and verbally going "CLICK!" and not letting 
me advance the film again anytime he actually snapped an exposure but was 
having a blast anyway.  I have low expectations between my own recent lack 
of film experience and the toy camera construction (and not even sure the 
film advance was fully engaging at times) so not sure we'll put much more 
film through this particular one.  Anyway, it was a fun day, and a much 
needed one, and hopefully we get a decent pic or two between his roll and 
the one I'm now halfway through on the Yashica as a little memento.  
Otherwise I plan to run through the remaining few rolls of old expired 
color film and get more familiar with the old Yashica and see where to go 
from there.  

But back to camera selections.  I had a few important realizations to 
really drive that particular decision:

1: I needed some cash and had been looking for unused items to 
unload/downsize before a recent move- the Minolta X-700 and that Leica lens 
were the only two worth anything to the local camera shop.
2: I was unlikely to commit enough time in the short term to make the most 
of the X-700 SLR and all it's features, nor would I have the funds in the 
near furture to expand on either platform.  For the Leica lens.  a 40mm 
Summicron C - originally from a Leica/Minolta CE -  I've had a lens with no 
body for years and no justification or budget to invest in a Leica body - 
I'd considered selling everything except the Leica lens and saving for a 
body to pair it with, maybe even a new Voigtlander Bessa (forget which 
model but one has 40mm framelines) but ultimately decided I'd rather play 
around with something immediate and selling the less desireable stuff 
hardly seemed worth the effort.  And just as Teague noted above - I wanted 
to avoid buying/selling on ebay for the exact same concerns.)
3. With a lack of confidence in my camera skills after many years of 
dormancy and generally mediocre results even when I was more active with 
film I'm interested in the challenge in making the most of the Yashica's 
limited features.  Plus no other immediate expenses or concerns such as a 
need for fresh batteries, etc.  I guess I'd try to compare it in a way to 
how I rediscovered something new from something old in cycling kind of like 
I did by trying friction downtube shifters for the first time when I scored 
a free roadbike nearly 10 years ago or exploring fixed gear riding a few 
years back.  I'm hoping to learn from and be surprised by whatever I get 
from these next few rolls of film run through the old camera with little to 
no expectations.
4. I had to keep the Polaroid just for fun and will eventually order some 
Polaroid Originals film packs.  We acquired this at some point prior to 
getting married and I loaded up on some boxes of the Impossible film that 
was available at the time and everyone seemed to have fun with it at our 
reception, although almost all outdoor shots got overexposed with everyone 
leaving them face up while they developed : (

Best of luck on your search and re-entry into film and I'll be curious to 
see what you decide on in the end.  Keep us posted.

I could probably go on for days about a bunch of thoughts regarding our 
digital age and how/why I kind of burned myself out on photography 
alto

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Adam Leibow]

correct - my new ram is 60. i love the fit of it. 

On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your 
> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love 
> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>
>
> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen Creaking!!!

[Tim Tetrault]

It might be worth (as others have noted) cleaning your drivetrain areas, 
letting it dry, and using some sort of SpotCheck like spray to reveal 
cracks.

Secondly, I agree with the above responder who mentioned the saddle- 
epsecially if it's a Brooks. Tighten your seat post, rail clamp, and saddle 
bolt, if you have one. Once every three years or so, my Brooks will give 
birth to a creak.

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 2:25:50 AM UTC-7, brendonoid wrote:
>
> I had a click for six months that only happened when I stood up or climbed 
> hills. I went absolutely crazy finding it.
>
> It was the front derailleur clamp being just loose enough that the hinge 
> moved enough to click as the frame around the bb flexed when I climbed 
> hills... (79kg on a 63cm Hilsen) half turn on the front derailleur clamp 
> bolt fixed the problem.
> Just leaving this here as an incredibly unlikely scenario that has 
> happened to at least one person.
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Canti-Saluki 62cm

[Karl]

Matt,

Think we would be rock/paper/scissors for one! This may be my “call Rivendell 
and get my dream” custom. 

Karl “Always go Rock”
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] Re: Simple0ne enjoyment

[Carla Waugh]

I love my SS with 38 Barlow Pass tires it’s my go to bike. I currently have a 
Donutsack rear bag and a front small bag. With White Industries freewheel it 
couldn’t be any better. I tend to take it over my geared bikes. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Bill Schairer]

With ghost shifting in the back I’d be checking the derailleur hanger alignment.

Bill S

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Garth]

Ghost shifting may also be as simple as a slight tightening of the tension 
bolt on top of the shifter in question. D-rings to adjust are sweet, 
hex/allen bolts are not ! 

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Mark’s Rack

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Sold!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shifting issues on 1st Gen Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

Ghost shifting with those clickety SunRace shifters is a fault of using an IGH 
shifter on a derailer. It can be fiddled with enough cure it to the 
satisfaction of some, but it's simply not a friction shifter. Leah will be much 
happier with the Microshift, I promise. 

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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Daniel D.]

Now you got me shopping for an OM-1N.  Since I was a teen I've wanted a 
nikon Fm2.   Year or two ago I bought 6 rolls of kodak b/w film that's been 
sitting in my fridge because of this forum :p.  Cost to develop and print 
gave me pause.

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 9:14:14 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I think this is on topic. I’ve been semi inspired by all the camera 
> content, but moreso, after having a kid, I’m becoming more interested In 
> having hard copy documentation of things (I have a printer. I never print 
> anything), for him to have when he gets older. 
>
> I know my way around the operation of cameras, not expertly, but I’ve 
> taken some classes etc. what I have no idea about is what brands, models, 
> years are good. 
>
> Is there something between a full manual and a full automatic? I think I’d 
> probably not end up using a manual slr at this point in my life. A point 
> and shoot may be better, but something in between would be cool if it 
> exists. 
>
> So what do people like for good quality, durable, quick/easy to use 
> cameras? 

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[RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[Drw]

Speaking of development. Does everyone go online now? If so, who do people like?

Also, just to update, I picked up an Olympus xa2, because I could wrap my head 
around that and it’s price most immediately. It was on eBay but it’s got a good 
return policy and good seller feedback.

I’m interested in the more advanced stuff too, but I need to spend some more 
time weighing each one against the other. 

This is a great document of what people like, so I hope others keep weighing 
in. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommend a film camera

[David Bivins]

Oh! All this has jogged my memory (and camera collection): you should
definitely consider adding to your now growing collection (n+1, just like
bikes) of cameras the Yashica Electro 35. There are various models, but you
should look for the GSN or GTN (one is chrome, the other black). They are
old. They have problems. But if you get one in good condition, you'll get
great use out of it. It is exclusively an aperture priority camera. It has
over/under metering, meaning it tells you if you're over or under and you
adjust the aperture, and then it comes up with the exact shutter speed (not
just stepped like the typical 1/125, 1/250, 1/500 etc.) using an
electromagnetic shutter. They take photos to die for. The lens is amazing.
You do have to focus, but it's an exceptionally easy rangefinder to use. If
you look it up, you will find multiple references to it being a "poor
person's Leica."
The Olympus XA, etc. clamshell cameras are great. Take a couple of rolls
and see what you think. Some cameras that people love I find that I take
awful pictures with.

I develop at home, in my bathroom and kitchen. A rank beginner can get
great results with a simple Paterson daylight tank and Diafine developer.
Or if you can do simple math and use a thermometer, you could use any other
b/w developer. Cinestill now makes a developer that is all the chemicals in
one (a "monobath"), but I haven't tried it yet. I then scan my negatives. I
use a Nikon Coolscan 9000 (expensive and discontinued) but there are other
options.

You might also have a local community darkroom. As film photography's
popularity has waxed again over the past decade, more have popped up. I
usually get my color film developed by a small family-run photo shop that
seems to be doing bang-up business with the youngsters shooting film. I
used to be the only one in there but now I have to wait in line, which is
pretty great, really!

I'm in Brooklyn, NY, so I have places I can bike my film to for development
if necessary, but I love doing it myself.  It's like working on your own
bike - same satisfaction, and the same learning-by-failure.

Take care,
David

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 7:46 PM Drw  wrote:

> Speaking of development. Does everyone go online now? If so, who do people
> like?
>
> Also, just to update, I picked up an Olympus xa2, because I could wrap my
> head around that and it’s price most immediately. It was on eBay but it’s
> got a good return policy and good seller feedback.
>
> I’m interested in the more advanced stuff too, but I need to spend some
> more time weighing each one against the other.
>
> This is a great document of what people like, so I hope others keep
> weighing in.
>
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