Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis fork axle to crown

[Mike Williams]

Doh!!  700c Forks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 11:03 PM, dougP  wrote:
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> Would wheel size make a difference?  56 cm & smaller are 26".  58 cm & larger 
> are 700c.  Some current models also come in 650b.  
> 
> dougP
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>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:04:39 PM UTC-7, mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hey there group,  specifically Atlantis owners, would a couple of you be 
>> able to take measurements of the axle to criwn length on your Atlantis 
>> forks?   Im sure they are going to differ slightly because of all the 
>> different versions over the years.   Thank you!!   -Mike
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Jay Connolly]

Great looking bike. Count me as a fan of the WI cranks, as well--and of the 
BMC frames. That colour really pops.

Jay

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[RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[John W]

Looks great! Curious to hear how you arrived at the brake placement?

And side question — did you get the brakes new, or from the parts bin? Looking 
for a pair myself. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Eric Daume]

I think I'm pretty good at putting a bike together, but Bill's builds put
mine to shame.

Eric
fellow BMC MC owner

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

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> It's a stretch for Riv-content here, but I promise there is some.  The
> obvious Riv content is limited to hemp twine, Newbaums bar tape, components
> from White Industries and Paul, who are Riv vendors.  I bought the CX70
> front derailer and brakes from Riv.  The whole idea of a Monster Cross, or
> more correctly a drop bar mountain bike, definitely have Rivendell's
> fingerprints on it.  Anyway, here it is.
>
> 58cm Black Mountain Monster Cross
> Cane Creek 40 headset
> HED Belgium C2 Plus rims, Dura Ace hubs, Ultegra Skewers 10sp 12-30
> Ultegra cassette.
> WTB Bronson 29x2.0 tires with tubes
> White Industries VBC 172.5mm cranks 42/26 rings
> Shimano SPD pedals
> CX70 front der
> Ultegra rear der
> Shimano 10sp barcons on Paul Thumbies
> Paul Boxcar stem, modified cable stop
> Salsa Cowchipper bars
> SRAM S500 brakelevers
> Shimano CX70 brakes
> Niner Carbon seatpost
> Avocet O2 saddle
> Khaki Newbaums tape with amber shellac
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> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bill mentioned he purchased the CX 70 brakes from Rivendell a while back. 
The CX 70 model was discontinued, and just about every place is out of back 
stock as well. A while ago I had a bead on a set somewhere, but delayed in 
ordering (less than a day) and poof! I  ended up with a  pair in trade, but 
had to sell the bike they were slated for--coincidentally the BG Hikari 
that Bill alerted me to. I wanted the CX 70 because they come with a washer 
set that lets them adjust to canti posts that run as close as 90mm--the 
spread on the Hikari fork, not atypical of that vintage.

Riv still carries the CX 50, slightly less refined but similar. Otherwise, 
you are probably looking at the second hand market, unless a retailer finds 
a stash somewhere. None listed on ebay at the moment.

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 6:52:08 AM UTC-4, John W wrote:
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> Looks great! Curious to hear how you arrived at the brake placement? 
>
> And side question — did you get the brakes new, or from the parts bin? 
> Looking for a pair myself. 

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bob Lovejoy]

The site below still shows sets of CX-70 brakes available.  They are 
discontinued as far as I know but this shop liked the brakes (for good 
reasons) and stockpiled some.  Anyway, I assume they are still available 
here... certainly worth a check.  The owner/seller was extremely helpful 
when I called him.

http://www.thegranarybicyclecompany.com

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL


On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 5:52:08 AM UTC-5, John W wrote:
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> Looks great! Curious to hear how you arrived at the brake placement? 
>
> And side question — did you get the brakes new, or from the parts bin? 
> Looking for a pair myself. 

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Lum Gim Fong]

Pauls would be nice, too.

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bob Lovejoy]

Apologies for the reply-to-self...  Found the original post re: The Granary 
and CX-70 brakes...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/internet-bob/pDFKJ4xY73s/ysGoRtWkAQAJ

Bob

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 7:27:36 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
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> The site below still shows sets of CX-70 brakes available.  They are 
> discontinued as far as I know but this shop liked the brakes (for good 
> reasons) and stockpiled some.  Anyway, I assume they are still available 
> here... certainly worth a check.  The owner/seller was extremely helpful 
> when I called him.
>
> http://www.thegranarybicyclecompany.com
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
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> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 5:52:08 AM UTC-5, John W wrote:
>>
>> Looks great! Curious to hear how you arrived at the brake placement? 
>>
>> And side question — did you get the brakes new, or from the parts bin? 
>> Looking for a pair myself. 
>
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[jandrews_nyc]

Very nice ..I've been following BMC blog and curious about building up a 
lightweight off-road MC myself.
Bill, can you tell me your PBH?
Also, on those Shimano 10sp barcons, are the cable adjusters part of the 
shifter? or you added them to the cable itself?  
JS




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[RBW] Re: Leaning into the Ides of March

[WETH]

Patrick,
Thanks.  That is a great piece of clothing.  I may have to get one.
Erl

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 6:08:05 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Thanks, Erl. It’s Schaefer Ranchwear’s Mesquite Vest. I’ve personally 
> proven it is barbwire and decomposed granite proof, as well as wind proof. 
> It makes a great core wind blocker, which around here in sprink and autumn 
> is key for managing warmth/moisture when idiototically climbing and 
> descending. Doesn’t crinkle or make noise like nylon. I love it. 
> https://www.schaefer-ranchwear.com/315-mesquite-vest.html 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Clayton.sf]

sticking to Snoqualmie here too. we shall see...

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[RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bill Lindsay]

Jonathan D asked where I place this bike in my lineup

Second hook from the right. 

Jonathan D asked for me to compare the ride vs Rivs and my Black Mountain Road. 

I only buy framesets that fit me. I know the numbers well enough and myself 
well enough that I can always grab something that fits. I’ve done a LOT of 
builds for myself over the last decade and it’s gotten a little boring that I 
do a build, get on the bike for a first ride and it’s “yep, perfect again”. 
Anyhow this is a perfect fitting bike for rides that I feel like doing on a 
full rigid drop bar mountain bike. My Black Mountain Road is a perfect fitting 
bike for rides I feel like doing on a stripped down road racing bike. My Rivs 
each have their little “mood niche” as well. My Hillborne is set up to be my 
brevet bike. My two Rosco Bubbes are set up to be Bart bikes. They all fit 
perfectly and all ride well and I choose one based on mood. I don’t think of my 
stable in terms of ‘better’ or ‘worse’, and for as much as I know about bikes, 
I’m not as sensitive as the trail zealots or the planing zealots. I expect that 
may not be a satisfying answer. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bill Lindsay]

John W asked how I arrived at brake placement. 

I installed the cantilever brakes DIRECTLY onto the cantilever brake posts. 😝. 
Maybe you meant something else?  Brake lever placement was an educated guess 
based on the assumption that 100% of off road downhill braking will be done 
from the drops. 

As others noted, when CX70s went out of production I took note. I stocked up 
with three sets. Now two of the three sets are on bikes and I’m getting a 
little antsy about that. 

Rivendell might become one of the last bastions of rim brakes. Great drivetrain 
parts are plentiful, but brakelevers rims and brakes are getting scarce. Winter 
is coming...

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[John Woo]

Haha. You got me. Should not hit reply before caffeinating.

What I meant to say was, I love the placement of the thumbies!

> On Mar 15, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> John W asked how I arrived at brake placement. 
> 
> I installed the cantilever brakes DIRECTLY onto the cantilever brake posts. 
> 😝. Maybe you meant something else?  Brake lever placement was an educated 
> guess based on the assumption that 100% of off road downhill braking will be 
> done from the drops. 
> 
> As others noted, when CX70s went out of production I took note. I stocked up 
> with three sets. Now two of the three sets are on bikes and I’m getting a 
> little antsy about that. 
> 
> Rivendell might become one of the last bastions of rim brakes. Great 
> drivetrain parts are plentiful, but brakelevers rims and brakes are getting 
> scarce. Winter is coming...
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito Ca. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[John Woo]

Props, Bob for that. Ordered a pair!

> On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Bob Lovejoy  wrote:
> 
> The site below still shows sets of CX-70 brakes available.  They are 
> discontinued as far as I know but this shop liked the brakes (for good 
> reasons) and stockpiled some.  Anyway, I assume they are still available 
> here... certainly worth a check.  The owner/seller was extremely helpful when 
> I called him.
> 
> http://www.thegranarybicyclecompany.com
> 
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 5:52:08 AM UTC-5, John W wrote:
>> Looks great! Curious to hear how you arrived at the brake placement? 
>> 
>> And side question — did you get the brakes new, or from the parts bin? 
>> Looking for a pair myself.
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bill Lindsay]

Aha, by ‘brake placement’ , John W meant ‘shift lever placement’. 

I placed them as wide as the 31.8mm section of the Salsa Cowchipper bars would 
allow. I chose the Salsa Cowchipper bars because the 31.8mm sleeve is quite 
wide. I decided against normal bar-con placement because they are flared drops 
and didn’t want them sticking out. 

If I find that I want to do a lot of mountain biking, I might want to switch to 
a clutch rear der to mitigate chain slap. If I do that, I may switch to a SRAM 
10-sp Brifter on the right hand side. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis fork axle to crown

[Matt B.]

I'd send an email or call Rivendell just to be sure. I don't own an 
Atlantis but have a an all-rounder similar to it and the axle-to-crown 
length is 400mm.


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wrote:
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> Hey there group,  specifically Atlantis owners, would a couple of you be 
> able to take measurements of the axle to criwn length on your Atlantis 
> forks?   Im sure they are going to differ slightly because of all the 
> different versions over the years.   Thank you!!   -Mike

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Steve Butcher]

Really nice build, Bill !  Very nice even handlebar wrap, too!

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 4:34:24 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
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> It's a stretch for Riv-content here, but I promise there is some.  The 
> obvious Riv content is limited to hemp twine, Newbaums bar tape, components 
> from White Industries and Paul, who are Riv vendors.  I bought the CX70 
> front derailer and brakes from Riv.  The whole idea of a Monster Cross, or 
> more correctly a drop bar mountain bike, definitely have Rivendell's 
> fingerprints on it.  Anyway, here it is.
>
> 58cm Black Mountain Monster Cross
> Cane Creek 40 headset
> HED Belgium C2 Plus rims, Dura Ace hubs, Ultegra Skewers 10sp 12-30 
> Ultegra cassette.
> WTB Bronson 29x2.0 tires with tubes
> White Industries VBC 172.5mm cranks 42/26 rings
> Shimano SPD pedals
> CX70 front der 
> Ultegra rear der
> Shimano 10sp barcons on Paul Thumbies
> Paul Boxcar stem, modified cable stop
> Salsa Cowchipper bars
> SRAM S500 brakelevers
> Shimano CX70 brakes
> Niner Carbon seatpost
> Avocet O2 saddle
> Khaki Newbaums tape with amber shellac
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto rack, Tektro cantis, Shimano levers, XD2, Rustines

[Drw]

Bumping this. items need to go. 

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[RBW] FS: RBW Protovelo Road Bike - 57.5cm

[jandrews_nyc]

57.5cm Protovelo road bike for sale:

Note - Saddle, Rear saddle-bag, Pedals, Bell and Bottle Cage aren’t 
included

This is a fun, light and nimble bike looking for a new home. The frame is 
somewhat of an odd duck. I *believe* that this was a prototype for the San 
Marcos in terms of geometry.  I purchased it from Kevin at Riv in about 
2012. I was interested in buying a Roadeo and they posted this frameset and 
I purchased it instead. I also *believe* that it has a Roadeo fork from 
Toyo in JP.   It’s a slender, nicely curved fork with cream dropouts and no 
mounting bosses mid-fork. (the seat stays have typical Riv bosses, 2 at the 
dropouts and one mid-stay and one by the seat cluster)

The odd thing about this frameset is it has Hilborne headtube lugs and a 
Homer bottom bracket shell.  Also, odd-duckishly, the front fork takes a 
medium-reach caliper and the rear brake is a long-reach. I *believe* the 
frame was U.S. made. Also, I *believe* the color is "RBW Blue".

The sizing was listed as 57.5cm and that’s the measurement for both the 
seat tube and the top tube.

Rear spacing is 130mm.

My PBH is 84.5 and this bike was just a smidge big for me but never ever a 
real issue. When I'm standing with feet firmly on the ground the top tube 
is right up there but workable.
The reach on this bike is great compared to my too-long top tube 
first-generation Hillborne which is 56/59!

I built this bike up as a go-fast road bike and while it served that 
purpose very well, that’s not the type of riding I really do.  I ride my 
much much heavier Hillborne more or my off-road singlespeed.

The wheels are very nice, built by Anthony King.  - White Industries T11 
polished 28h laced to IRD “Cadence” lightweight rims..  Rear is “VSR” or 
offset. Both have wheelsmith spokes. (42 Wheelsmith XL14 2.0/1.5/2.0 
 Silver Spoke w/ Brass Nipples & 14 Wheelsmith DB14 2.0/1.7/2.0 Silver 
Spoke w/ Silver Brass Nipples)

Tires are Jack Brown Greens with plenty of life left

Cream longboard fenders

SRAM Apex mini-group - Front and Rear Derailleurs as well as a SRAM 
cassette (11-32 10spd) & chain and Apex “double tap” shifter/levers

Crankset - NOS (when I installed it) - 170mm Sugino AT with Specialities TA 
“Syrius” 50/34 10 speed chainrings  {122.5 UN52 bb)

Bars are Mark’s “Dream Bar” in heat treated 46cm by Nitto.

Stem is 9cm Tech Deluxe

Wrapped in black Newbaums.


Headset is FSA that Riv uses.

Brakes - Rear Tektro R559, Front Tektro R538


Seatpost - Thomson “Elite” , black - no offset.


CLEARANCE: The bike is running JB greens with longboard fenders. I think it 
would probably run Barlow Pass 38's without fenders but I haven't tested 
that. After doing some research by the numbers, I *believe* that Paul 
Racers (not M's) would handle the difference of the long reach in the back 
and med reach in the front and allow for a little more clearance ...but I 
haven't personally tested that.


Issues:  {pics attached for all this}

There are few small chips in the paint. , the most offensive being on the 
downtube just below the water bottle cage.  There is also a small one on 
the top tube as well as a couple small ones on the inside of the non-drive 
side chain stay.  

Also, there is a bolt stuck in the bottom of the two rack/fender mounting 
bosses on the non-drive side rear dropout.  The head came off a bolt. 
***Note, the threads aren’t stripped. Just the bolt is in and I can’t get 
it out without drilling it out, and I currently don’t have a quality drill. 
 Shouldn’t be too much of a problem. Never bothered me since I just moved 
the fender mounting up to the higher bosses.

I can send pics of those if you’re really interested.


I'd prefer to sell this bike locally , but shipping is possible at buyers 
expense.

I'm in the Hudson Valley of Upstate New York but can easily meet in NYC 
with the bike.


My already discounted pricing is $1500. 

Please know that when I say "I *believe*", I'm giving you my honest though 
process based on speaking to employee at RBW and being a good steward of 
the bike for the past 5 or so years, but I can't confirm those statements 
100% and I may be mistaken.

Photos below and please let me know if you have any other questions.

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Appaloosa and how to pull more cable

[Edwin W]

Update: Thank you all so much for your help. They did turn out to be the 
wrong levers, so my LBS switched them out using the Ray "keep the clamp, 
switch the levers" Varella trick, and all is good.

Long pull levers sure do make a big difference with V brakes. Haha. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/39018444880/in/album-72157666755295618/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/39018444890/in/album-72157666755295618/

Edwin

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 2:42:59 PM UTC-6, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I have not seen (m)any photos of Appaloosas with a drop bar. I wanted to 
> do something new this spring, and my wallet did not want me to get a new 
> bike, so I put on some drops.
> I had tried this a few years ago with my Sam, and it never felt great, so 
> I got a shorter stem this time (7cm vs 9cm). Then I put yellow Newbaum's on 
> with a light coat of clear shellac. Spring time!
>
> One thing I don't love is that I got the absolute tallest V Brakes I could 
> find when I bought this, and those tall V Brakes need the absolute most 
> cable pull... and the tektro v brake levers for drop bars bottom out. They 
> stop the bike, but no room to spare! Any ideas on how to pull more cable 
> save for getting those pulley add on things? I was thinking of trying 
> another washer on the inside of the arm to put the tops of the arms a 
> little further apart. Will that make a difference?
>
> Photos 
> 
>
> I would love to see pictures any other drop bar Appaloosas.
>
> Edwin
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[RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[James / Analog Cycles]

We just about finished up this Sam Hillborne for John S.  He'll use it 
primarily for commuting, but also for the occasional light tour.  It's got 
a bunch of Riv un-approved bits, but here at Analog we're pretty fond of 
tubeless tires, bigger than VP pedals, and 1x drivetrains.  Of course, not 
every bike goes out with that stuff!  

It's about to get a trouser guard for the outer chainring, as well as a Big 
Nitto rear rack.  

For gear inch nerd:  it's roughly 85 on the high side and 18.7 on the low 
side.  36t ring.  
















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[RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Deacon Patrick]

Wow, that’s one crazy commute! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Belopsky]

This is cool. If I don't like my Kelly takeoffs I'll try thumb shifters on 
my Cowbell 3 bars

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bill Lindsay]

jandrews_nyc asked about my PBH and the shifter setup.  

My saddle height is 75.5cm.  I dont remember if my PBH is 86 or 86.5.  

The cable adjusters are part of the Paul Thumbies.  Shimano barcons have no 
cable adjusters.  The shiftlever part comes of the barcon pods and mounts 
onto the Thumbie.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 5:37:23 AM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
> Very nice ..I've been following BMC blog and curious about building up a 
> lightweight off-road MC myself.
> Bill, can you tell me your PBH?
> Also, on those Shimano 10sp barcons, are the cable adjusters part of the 
> shifter? or you added them to the cable itself?  
> JS
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Andrew Patteson]

Wow, great looking bike!!  So very well thought out.

Andrew in SLC, UT






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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[nash5510]

Those tires look super tough on there.  I've only ever had rock n roads on my 
bmc.  Imo perfect bike for east bay hills.

Nash Taylor
Oakland 

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bill Lindsay]

Yes, Rock and Roads will go on next, most likely.  I wanted to confirm that 
50s would fit, and I want to use these up, so I can discard them with a 
good conscience.  The temptation is to go straight to Furious Freds or 
Snoqualmie Pass, but I really want to use tires from my internal inventory 
first.

Bill

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 1:27:46 PM UTC-7, nash...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Those tires look super tough on there.  I've only ever had rock n roads on 
> my bmc.  Imo perfect bike for east bay hills.
>
> Nash Taylor
> Oakland 
>

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[RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Daniel Jackson]

XD driver required?

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[RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Jay Connolly]

Sunrace now sells an 11-50 that fits a standard (I think) Shimano hub, so I 
don't think that will be XD.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

Nope.  It's a standard FH body.

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Forgot about the granary. I bought some A23 rims and a rack a while back, 
he hadn't listed the brakes yet. When that other post came up, I emailed to 
ask whether his price was for one brake or a full bike set and he never got 
back. (Some places were selling them very cheap once Shimano discontinued. 
Still, not a bad deal at $120. Looks like he's down to four sets.

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 8:27:36 AM UTC-4, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> The site below still shows sets of CX-70 brakes available.  They are 
> discontinued as far as I know but this shop liked the brakes (for good 
> reasons) and stockpiled some.  Anyway, I assume they are still available 
> here... certainly worth a check.  The owner/seller was extremely helpful 
> when I called him.
>
> http://www.thegranarybicyclecompany.com
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 5:52:08 AM UTC-5, John W wrote:
>>
>> Looks great! Curious to hear how you arrived at the brake placement? 
>>
>> And side question — did you get the brakes new, or from the parts bin? 
>> Looking for a pair myself. 
>
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[RBW] High bar/low bar

[Christopher Murray]

I saw this bike at Harris one of the first times I met Sheldon. It looked even 
weirder in person. 

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. 

Chris

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[RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Joe Bernard]

That's awesome. I've seen ebike builds before that hid the motor to mimic 
non-assist, but that giant cassette makes this non-assist look like an ebike! 😂

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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Bill Lindsay]

The nice touch that caught my eye is the Dia Compe headset cable hanger 
with a built in QR cam.  That's a classy old school unit.  APPROVE.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 12:00:46 PM UTC-7, James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:
>
> We just about finished up this Sam Hillborne for John S.  He'll use it 
> primarily for commuting, but also for the occasional light tour.  It's got 
> a bunch of Riv un-approved bits, but here at Analog we're pretty fond of 
> tubeless tires, bigger than VP pedals, and 1x drivetrains.  Of course, not 
> every bike goes out with that stuff!  
>
> It's about to get a trouser guard for the outer chainring, as well as a 
> Big Nitto rear rack.  
>
> For gear inch nerd:  it's roughly 85 on the high side and 18.7 on the low 
> side.  36t ring.  
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] cycling as the unintentional fountain of youth

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Interesting article.  I do notice that I am considerably grumpier if I 
can't cycle every day.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/14/well/move/how-exercise-can-keep-aging-muscles-and-immune-systems-young.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fhealth&action=click&contentCollection=health®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=7&pgtype=sectionfront


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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Belopsky]

This makes me want to put SRAM levers on my Gunnar

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[RBW] Terry XXL Female Cycling Jerseys- Free

[Karl]

Three XXL women's specific jerseys. Good shape. Pay for shipping, and they 
are yours! 

Karl
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] PSA: crust 1in threaded disc forks

[Drw]

So crust bikes just put up a few 1in threaded disc forks on their site for 
195$. Rather than stocking up on increasingly obsolete cantis or wide 650b rim 
brake rims, I bought one. I know it’s possibly un-rivvish, but IF I have to use 
it, it’ll go on my atlantis 

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[RBW] cycling as the unintentional fountain of youth

[bo richardson]

in what way unintentional?
who has not noticed, as far back as 1960,
that people who get lots of fresh air, exercise and good food
age slower and better thanpeople who hang out n bars and drink amd smoke 
cigarettes?
i started running in 1964 with the idea of extending myusable life into my 70s 
and boy
has that paid off.

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[RBW] Atlantis fork axle to crown

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Mike,
400mm...tape end hooked on a pencil in the dropouts to the crown race.
- Frank

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[John G.]

Bill, your bikes are always well-appointed and seem to fit you perfectly. 
Thanks for sharing pics, details, and data. 

I know the intended use of the BMC is different than your Sam, but I’d love 
comparisons. I’m in between Sam sizes, and the BMC might be a better fit.

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Bill Lindsay]

A BMC Monster Cross with some Barlow Pass EL o light wheels would make a 
splendid road bike. Put some racks and fenders on it and now it’s a touring 
bike. It’s a very capable and very versatile bike. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca. 

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[RBW] Re: Smooth Factor of lighter rim brake steel forks

[Philip Williamson]

Probably a stiffer disc fork would have to be longer to give the same axle 
movement, to take the edge off bumps. I doubt any rigid fork can absorb the 
shocks that a shock fork can. In fact, that seems self-evident. 
Not a mathematician or an engineer. 

Philip
Santa Rosa today, Redlands tomorrow.

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 6:01:02 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Today’s ride, like many of mine, is roughly equal parts paved, dirt, and 
> trail. Compass tires cush the whole ride, but the front fork absorbs a lot 
> of the bigger bumps on dirt and trail. I’ve noticed this for a while, but 
> on the (now really bad) wash board dirt road sections, the fork is 
> compliant and absorbing. This led me to ponder a number of questions I toss 
> out to see where they go... 
>
> — Would a stiffer (because they have to be) disk brake fork absorb as 
> much? 
> — How much of the “required” mindset for shock absorption on gravel and 
> MTB bikes is the result of disk brakes requiring a stiffer fork? (I suspect 
> marketing and “latest gen tech” mentality is likely the biggest factor). 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] FS - Waterford AHH 59cm

[Dan Bracey]

Full image gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/axZDK

I'm going to regret this, but for sale is a Waterford built 2006 A. Homer 
Hilsen that I have owned it since 2010. When I bought the bike, I thought 
I'd own it for the rest of my life, but it turns out that it just doesn't 
fit the type of riding I'm doing as well as I thought it would. It is one 
of the more beautiful frames I've ever put my eyes on and when I purchased 
it I painstakingly cleaned the frame and carefully touched up all the chips 
with matching enamel paint (first sign that I'm not a true "Riv guy"). 

The paint is darker blue than the current Homer and anyone that is paying 
attention knows that the AHH has gone through a lot of hues of blue over 
the years. I was also missing the brifter index shifting from my sportier 
road bike, so Homer's bar end shifters got swapped for a full Shimano 
Ultegra 6500 triple groupset (second sign that I'm not a true Riv believer) 
which I believe to be the last classically beautiful group that Shimano 
produced. I don't need to go into how great these frames are and how well 
they handle, or how beautiful they are, but I will say that the size 59 
frame was on the verge of being too big for my 5'11" frame, but it was 
still comfortable for a couple of 100 mile plus rides that I did on it. The 
larger than normal sizing and the low seat post was one Grantism that I do 
believe in for this bike which made it extremely comfortable for long rides.

Further details on the build are a full Nitto cockpit & seatpost including 
46cm Noodle handlebars wrapped with brooks honey leather tape that could 
use some moisturizing but still has plenty of life. A set of classic 
Rivendell wheels: Rich-built, Phil-hubbed (NLA), Synergy Velocity rimmed, 
36 spoke wheels with a Shimano 12/27 9 speed cassette. Jagwire silver 
cables throughout and Tektro R556 Sidepull brakes. 

The bike recently had a service from the top notch local shop including a 
replacement of the shift cables.

Seeing as the groupset is not very "rivish", I'm happy to sell the bike 
minus the groupset, but I would prefer to sell complete. I will probably 
shed a few tears as I tape up the box on this one, but this is a bike that 
deserves to be ridden hard and often and I'm not doing that. 

Complete $2700 
Less Shimano groupset, but including everything else, wheels, cockpit, etc. 
$2300

Will consider frame only, but prefer to sell complete

Prices do not including shipping or fees.  Located in Charlottesville, VA 
and happy to deal locally.  

Contact me by email - dlbra...@gmail.com

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