[RBW] Re: How to crash by yourself

[Ron Mc]

all done here 


(did raise the seatpost a half-inch)

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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Max S]

Here you go, Patrick: 

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/5886134408.html

:-) 

On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:29:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford 
> another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried one), and if 
> you thought you might look for an old road racing frame from the '70s, what 
> would you look for? 120 mm OL spacing.
>
> After trying out, once again, the S3X hub on the gofast, the hub gear 
> wheel idea being a quick-swap way to adapt this bike to occasional longer 
> and hilly rides, I find that the lash is a deal killer. So I want a frame 
> to build a bike around my AM hub.
>
> I'd probably give any such frame to Chauncey to have him remove unneeded 
> braze-ons (like icky derailleur bosses and hangar), and have him braze on 
> needed ones, like a roller boss at the seat tube junction and a housing 
> stop mid-top tube for the trigger cable housing, and then have it powder 
> coated.
>
> I did have a decent 1973 Motobecane 2nd level Record, and that was close 
> to what I want, but it wasn't cigar level; it didn't handle quite like my 
> Rivs.
>
> (I am tempted to give Chauncey my gofast, and tell him: "Replicate this." 
> But that would be at least $1200 -- cheap at the price, but more than I 
> ought to consider at this point.)
>
> (Wouldn't it be lovely to have a customized Roadeo, 57 for me, without the 
> derailleur bits?)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, who just again rode the gofast with 95"/71"/59" S3X in 
> windy ABQ, NM
>
> Aside: As I turned north onto Corrales Road on the way to Stevie's, with 
> wind blowing from the south, I shifted into the 95" and bowled along 
> merrily -- until the road turned and the wind quartered and my cadence 
> dropped like a stone. How much better the ASC would be: you could have that 
> downhill and tailwind gear at say 80", and at 90% have a 72" cruising and 
> at 75% a 59" climbing -- though they say that the ASC also had lashings of 
> lash. The AM, with direct + 11.55% and - 12.5% would give one, say, a 70" 
> direct, a 78" high, and a 61" low -- very usable gears, not to mention 
> coasting.
>
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> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: what skewer please?

[Tim Gavin]

Yeah, I'm using a skewer from a Shimano Deore XT M730 hub (circa '88) with
the SP PD-8 hub on my Foundry Auger.  Fits perfectly, looks clunky, I love
it.

The beefy internal cam clamps much more securely than the cheap external
cam skewer I got with the wheels.  Very important with disc brakes.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:

> What hubs were in this old set of MTB wheels?  Anything fancy?  I think
> back in the day a few brands used slightly oversize axles and skewers.  My
> Medici came with a Weyless skewer of a larger diameter in the rear, with a
> Phil Wood hub whose axle had obviously been modified to accept the larger
> skewer.  Unfortunately, it broke on me shortly after doing Eroica with it,
> but a standard skewer still works fine in there.
>
> Another explanation is that the end of the skewer is slightly bent.  Can
> you get any of the skewer in the SP hub axle?
>
> I use a skewer from a Shimano LX hub in one of my SP hubs.  The other SP
> hub I have is was "sold" (really it was OEM spec) under the "Biologic" name
> and came with a generic external-cam skewer, that was also branded
> "Biologic."  So my thought is that any standard QR will work; the funkiness
> must be with the skewers from your old wheelset, not with the axle on the
> SP hub.
>
>
> On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 12:12:33 PM UTC-8, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>
>> My SP-PV8 / DT460 wheel finally showed up today !!! after nearly 2 months
>> of waiting on parts/shipping/customs/etc.
>> However, unnoticed by me even though it says so on every website selling
>> it, the hub comes with no skewer.
>> No problem, says I. I have an old set of MTB wheels sitting in my shed. I
>> can pilfer the Q/R skewer from front. That's 100 mm too so it will surely
>> fit.
>> Except that it doesn't. It's too wide.
>>
>> So, please tell me wise ones. What skewer do I need, where do I get it,
>> and why the !@#$!@#$ doesn't it come with the hub?
>>
>> I'm ready to start making my own electricity now please.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jay
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[RBW] RBW Website - Riv Staff bike builds

[Christopher Cote]

It appears that they didn't make the transition. Too bad, it was nice to see 
all the different ways to build up the Riv bikes. I hope they bring it over to 
the new site. For now, you can see them on the old site via the Internet 
wayback site.

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[RBW] For Sale: Phil Wood 7 Speed Conversion Axle and End Caps

[EMJr]

Have a freewheel Phil Wood rear Hub you'd like to convert to 7speed to fit 
a 130mm rear wheel width?  The kit includes a 115mm Axle and two end caps 
for that 130mm conversion. 

Pictures here https://flic.kr/s/aHskLLo3RN

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[RBW] For Sale: Nitto Dirt Drop Stem and 27.2 Crystal Fellow Seatpost

[EMJr]

Brand new in Box, 27.2 Nitto Crystal Fellow Seatpost --- $55

Excellent Condition Dirt Drop Stem --- $45

All shipping included to CONUS

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[RBW] Drop bars for a kid: help me out.

[Edwin W]

I got a little Clem for my kids last year when they came out. It is a great 
bike. My oldest son has been riding it BUT  has just been so enamored by 
drop bars on bikes whenever he sees them. He does not QUITE appreciate how 
cool his bob-ish setup on the Clem is, no matter how many times the bike 
shop staff or I tell him! 
Right now we have VO tourist bars 
 on 
an 80mm stem.
Question - if I want to have him try drop bars should I:

Put some drops on the Clem, with a dirt drop style or shorter stem

or is it too long in the top tube and not practical and not what it was 
designed for and:

Get a small used drop bar bike off of CL and let him play around with that?

Thoughts from this smart group??


Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[John M]

Patrick,

I think you alone understand what you are looking for and how best to 
scratch the itch.  However, if I found myself in your position, I might 
give a call to Ken Wallace at the Bisbee Bicycle Brothel 
, in Bisbee Arizona.  He's 
got more vintage frames and bikes than I have ever seen under one roof. 
 Though, they probably won't cost less than a new Matthews custom (does he 
really charge $1200?).  

I'm less than 3 hours from Bisbee and swing through ABQ routinely.  Let me 
know if I can help you spend your money!


john




On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 3:29:29 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> If you wanted the signature Rivendell road ride, but couldn't afford 
> another custom or the Roadeo (and didn't want the Ram -- tried one), and if 
> you thought you might look for an old road racing frame from the '70s, what 
> would you look for? 120 mm OL spacing.
>
> After trying out, once again, the S3X hub on the gofast, the hub gear 
> wheel idea being a quick-swap way to adapt this bike to occasional longer 
> and hilly rides, I find that the lash is a deal killer. So I want a frame 
> to build a bike around my AM hub.
>
> I'd probably give any such frame to Chauncey to have him remove unneeded 
> braze-ons (like icky derailleur bosses and hangar), and have him braze on 
> needed ones, like a roller boss at the seat tube junction and a housing 
> stop mid-top tube for the trigger cable housing, and then have it powder 
> coated.
>
> I did have a decent 1973 Motobecane 2nd level Record, and that was close 
> to what I want, but it wasn't cigar level; it didn't handle quite like my 
> Rivs.
>
> (I am tempted to give Chauncey my gofast, and tell him: "Replicate this." 
> But that would be at least $1200 -- cheap at the price, but more than I 
> ought to consider at this point.)
>
> (Wouldn't it be lovely to have a customized Roadeo, 57 for me, without the 
> derailleur bits?)
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, who just again rode the gofast with 95"/71"/59" S3X in 
> windy ABQ, NM
>
> Aside: As I turned north onto Corrales Road on the way to Stevie's, with 
> wind blowing from the south, I shifted into the 95" and bowled along 
> merrily -- until the road turned and the wind quartered and my cadence 
> dropped like a stone. How much better the ASC would be: you could have that 
> downhill and tailwind gear at say 80", and at 90% have a 72" cruising and 
> at 75% a 59" climbing -- though they say that the ASC also had lashings of 
> lash. The AM, with direct + 11.55% and - 12.5% would give one, say, a 70" 
> direct, a 78" high, and a 61" low -- very usable gears, not to mention 
> coasting.
>
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> **
> **
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto 115 Bars

[Eric Norris]

I’m looking for a pair around 45cm C-T-C. Used is OK.

Let me know if you have a pair. I’d be interested in buying outright, or I have 
a pair of Noodles to trade.

--Eric Norris
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[RBW] FS: New 700c LX/A23 wheelset

[lum gim fong]

Bump

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[RBW] FS: 650b Grand Bois Cypres tire set

[lum gim fong]

Bump

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[RBW] Re: Drop bars for a kid: help me out.

[Jeremy Tavan]

Clem's got a very long top tube, but I suspect a shorter-reach drop bar on 
a short stem could work, particularly for those with longer torsos. Have 
you looked at things like the Fairweather/Nitto MOD174? It's kind of a 
scaled-down Noodle. I know from working on fit for my wife's Clementine 
that those Nitto quill stems come in very short lengths! Note that you'll 
have to select one of the less-common long-pull road brake levers or use 
travel agents on the linear pull brakes, but that can actually work well. 
We've got reverse levers and travel agents on my wife's bike and the power 
and modulation are quite good.

I don't see any reason why drops would be inappropriate on the Clem if the 
reach can be made to work. It's a versatile bike, and I think preserving 
your son's enthusiasm and letting him make the bike even more "his" through 
customizing it sounds like a great idea.

/Jeremy

On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 7:50:04 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I got a little Clem for my kids last year when they came out. It is a 
> great bike. My oldest son has been riding it BUT  has just been so enamored 
> by drop bars on bikes whenever he sees them. He does not QUITE appreciate 
> how cool his bob-ish setup on the Clem is, no matter how many times the 
> bike shop staff or I tell him! 
> Right now we have VO tourist bars 
>  
> on 
> an 80mm stem.
> Question - if I want to have him try drop bars should I:
>
> Put some drops on the Clem, with a dirt drop style or shorter stem
>
> or is it too long in the top tube and not practical and not what it was 
> designed for and:
>
> Get a small used drop bar bike off of CL and let him play around with that?
>
> Thoughts from this smart group??
>
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] WTB: Riv Reader thumb drive

[Michael Mott]

If anyone has one of the wood thumb drives with all the Riv Readers that 
they used to sell but seem to be absent currently, and wants to sell it, 
I'm interested. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: RBW Website - Riv Staff bike builds

[Bill Lindsay]

Igor asked about a Staff Bikes Gallery on rivbike.com.  

Presumably there is something specific you are looking for.  If there is, 
then you should be able to use the wayback machine to locate the page you 
are after.  If you don't know what the wayback machine is, it's a website 
that takes internet snapshots of a large percentage of the entire internet. 
 If you know the url you care about, and you know roughly when in time you 
want a snapshot of that url, then you can browse for it on the wayback 
machine.  If you just want to idly browse through photographs of Rivendells 
because its diverting, then the wayback machine won't be fun for you, 
particularly if you don't know what it is or how to use it.  For idle 
browsing of Rivendell photos, there's always flickr.  If you specifically 
and exclusively demand a browsable Staff Bikes Gallery and only want to 
find it on rivbike.com, then 'Cannot locate' was a correct statement. 
 There is no such gallery on the new site.  If you want to determine 
whether there will be, call in and ask Dave, perhaps.  Whenever I move, 
it's an opportunity to shed clutter, and maybe they did the same thing.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 5:48:06 PM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Where they at? Cannot locate..
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 classic honey - $50

[Jeffrey B]

Sold to a good home.

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[RBW] Re: RBW Website - Riv Staff bike builds

[Eric]

I really preferred the old site over the new one.

Also, I don't think a company should refer to a segment of their products 
as "cheaper". I'm not in marketing but I bet that's like in Marketing 
101

"Imported Framesets - $850-1300 

*Made & painted in bunches, seasonally in-stock, cheaper"*

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[RBW] WTB: Riv Reader thumb drive

[Dave]

Hi there, on my phone so can't reply directly, but shoot me a note. Have one 
and can send asap. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Website - Riv Staff bike builds

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Seems entirely in keeping with the overall Riv philosophy of calling things 
what they are.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 21, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Eric 
mailto:ericwolfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I really preferred the old site over the new one.

Also, I don't think a company should refer to a segment of their products as 
"cheaper". I'm not in marketing but I bet that's like in Marketing 101

"Imported Framesets - $850-1300

Made & painted in bunches, seasonally in-stock, cheaper"

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[RBW] ISO Frame Repair and Mods on Riv, who have you used?

[Jim Bronson]

I need to get my top tube replaced, it's rusting to the point of, I don't
feel confident on it anymore.  Someone from this forum actually noted such
about 9 months ago when I posted a pre-baby pic at a local watering hole.

I was also thinking of getting some mods done like crimping the seatstays
for 650x42B, I'm currently 650B converted and using LoupLoups; want to go
up to Babyshoes Pass.  More adventurous might be to get a low(er) trail
fork for it and have provisions for Paul or Compass brakes added.  I guess
it depends on how much that stuff costs.  If it's too much, might want to
just do the basic repair, paint and then get a new frame.

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[RBW] Re: ISO Frame Repair and Mods on Riv, who have you used?

[Belopsky]

Where are you located? i would start with calls/contacts to local builders.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Frame Repair and Mods on Riv, who have you used?

[Jim Bronson]

Austin, Texas.  That said I don't mind shipping it to someone good.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Frame Repair and Mods on Riv, who have you used?

[lum gim fong]

Bilenky  is liked here on the East Coast but that's far from you.

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[RBW] Re: ISO Frame Repair and Mods on Riv, who have you used?

[Garth]

Frankln Frames near Newark Ohio. 



On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 3:44:43 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> I need to get my top tube replaced, it's rusting to the point of, I don't 
> feel confident on it anymore.  Someone from this forum actually noted such 
> about 9 months ago when I posted a pre-baby pic at a local watering hole.
>
> I was also thinking of getting some mods done like crimping the seatstays 
> for 650x42B, I'm currently 650B converted and using LoupLoups; want to go 
> up to Babyshoes Pass.  More adventurous might be to get a low(er) trail 
> fork for it and have provisions for Paul or Compass brakes added.  I guess 
> it depends on how much that stuff costs.  If it's too much, might want to 
> just do the basic repair, paint and then get a new frame.
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Phil Wood 7 Speed Conversion Axle and End Caps

[EGNolan]

How much money are you looking for in trade for your axle? That'll be 
important to a potential buyer, I'm sure.

Best,
Eric
Indpls.


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[RBW] Re: How to crash by yourself

[Ian A]

Very nice indeed.  What width of tire are those and how is clearance? 
 Interesting choice to put on the racing mudguards of the era,  Were those 
a legal requirement in 60;s and 70's UK?  They don't appear to offer a 
functional benefit.

Ian A/Canada

On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 6:37:46 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
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> all done here 
>
>
> 
> (did raise the seatpost a half-inch)
>
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[RBW] Making fenders fit at the bottom bracket area?

[lum gim fong]

I heard one should not cut aluminium fenders, so:

1.how do I get my 650b Honjos to fit in between the cs at the bb?

2. Just squish them together til they fit like when changing the radius of 
the fender?

3. Is it ok for them to touch the stays or will they rub a groove into them?

4. How about steel Berthoud fenders? How to make them fit?

Thanks for the info.

I don't want SKS fenders. Just aluminum. Maybe Berthouds.

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[RBW] Re: FS Tubus, Ortlieb, Revelate, Thomson, SRAM

[Bruce Smitham]

*Update on what's left for sale of bike components and touring items. 
Prices don't include shipping (CONUS).* 

*Tubus Tara Big Apple front rack black in excellent condition $80 SOLD*
*Set of Ortlieb panniers city front black in great condition with a few 
scratches $70*
*New Revelate harness. Mounted but never used $65 SOLD*

*New Thomson X2 1 1/8" threadless stem 100mm 73/107 degree 31.8 Black in 
original packaging $70*
*SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great 
condition (few scratches) less than 60 miles $120*
*SRAM GXP bottom bracket fits 68, 73mm bottom bracket shells. Comes with 
spacers, english threaded less than 60 miles $15*
*SRAM PG 1070 10 speed Cassette 11-36T in great condition with less than 60 
miles $40*

Pictures here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskGYwY3o

Thanks, Bruce in San Diego

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 8:27:04 AM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> What's left for sale of some bike components and touring items. Prices 
> don't include shipping (CONUS). 
>
> Tubus Tara Big Apple front rack black in excellent condition $80
> Set of Ortlieb panniers city front black in great condition with a few 
> scratches $70
> New Revelate harness. Mounted but never used $65
> New Thomson X2 1 1/8" threadless stem 100mm 73/107 degree 31.8 Black in 
> original packaging $70
> SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great 
> condition (few scratches) less than 60 miles $120
> SRAM GXP bottom bracket fits 68, 73mm bottom bracket shells. Comes with 
> spacers, english threaded less than 60 miles $15
> SRAM PG 1070 10 speed Cassette 11-36T in great condition with less than 60 
> miles $40
>
> Pictures here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskGYwY3o
>
> Thanks, Bruce in San Diego
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[RBW] Re: How to crash by yourself

[Ron Mc]

Hi Ian, 
Those are Stampede Pass, 32mm, and nothing larger will fit - have a few mm 
clearance on the chainstays.  As parts came off the old frame I cleaned 
them, and before they went on the new frame I polished them.  
My Honjos were destroyed with the old frame - I saved all the good hardware 
for later.  I already had two sets of shorty fenders around.  These 
stainless which will fit 35mm or bigger, and some really pretty Bluemels 
alloy with blue foil decal that only fit 28mm.  
What they do is keep the  CP brakes clean, which have a lot of places for 
dirt.  


Just finished up over the weekend, and made short adjustment rides around 
the neighborhood yesterday.  
Made my ride maiden today - both for my busted bones and my new 
International. I rode 25 greenway miles. Rode my normal pace the whole way, 
just a bit shorter distance than I usually ride. 
My ribs did hurt when I was pedaling, and my shoulders when I got off. 
But it's good for me...

Something else I used on this bike - King Cages with their stud-welded hose 
clamps


  

I had strips of Brooks bar leather left over from two bar wraps (6 years 
apart) - used them underneath the umbrella clip to secure the frame fit 
pump (this worked for 6000 mi on the other frame) and underneath the King 
Cage hose clamps.  


On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 4:36:36 PM UTC-6, Ian A wrote:
>
> Very nice indeed.  What width of tire are those and how is clearance? 
>  Interesting choice to put on the racing mudguards of the era,  Were those 
> a legal requirement in 60;s and 70's UK?  They don't appear to offer a 
> functional benefit.
>
> Ian A/Canada
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 6:37:46 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> all done here 
>>
>>
>> 
>> (did raise the seatpost a half-inch)
>>
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[RBW] Drop bars for a kid: help me out.

[Joe Bernard]

80cm is already a pretty short stem for a pullback bar..I'm not sure you'll be 
able to get a dropbar on there that he can reach. Plus if he's enamored of the 
road bikes he's seeing, he may be interested in more than just the bars. I 
would recommend finding something used with brifters and see how he takes to 
it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Poster post

[RichS]

Eric, I always liked this poster. I also have a dedicated "bike stuff 
bedroom"! My contributions to the poster post:

Best,
Richard

On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 2:30:51 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Here are a few of my bicycle-related pieces of art. I got one bedroom to 
> go hog wild with bike stuff, so I did. [image: image1.JPG]
>
> –Eric N
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
> I picked this one up at Goodwill some 10 years ago, already framed. It has 
> hung in my garage ever since. 
>
> (I conscientiously assured the other shoppers and the checkout clerk that 
> I was interested in the *bicycle.*)
>
>  
>
> Does anyone know where I can get these:
>
>
> http://www.nzoactive.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Gino-Bartali-Tour-de-France-1948-winner-Legnano-bike-Campagnolo-Cambia-Corsa-groupset.jpg
>
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ERxywogDj9Y/TKdA-IQdrPI/Anw/JGG0CNp-H6I/s1600/CCE2.jpg
>
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 12:06:01 PM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
>  > Finally had a chance to frame a poster I picked up from a book shop 
> near Chicago when Grant was on his book tour. They were going to pitch it, 
> and I was happy to save it from that fate. I thought it would be cool to 
> see what posters you have hanging around. Post your posters here!
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Shifting parts

[dougP]

Rivendell has the Shimano Altus for only $28.  Should handle the 32T cog 
with no problem.

doug

On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 11:32:06 PM UTC-8, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> I've picked up some Silver Downtube Shifters from Riv and a 7-speed 
> cassette...but to accommodate the larger range, I need a new rear 
> derailleur.
>
> So, does anyone have a nice 7, 8, or 9 speed rear derailleur they'd be 
> willing to part with that can accommodate at 32T cog? 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 1:49:51 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>>
>> I built up my current 1x9 Hilsen drivetrain on the extreme cheap from 
>> various existing parts. It’s a bit of a mess (severe ghost-shifting on 
>> friction on a 9-speed cassette), and I’m ready to upgrade to make it all 
>> work better. I like both indexed and friction, so I figure I’d make the 
>> decision based on what I could get a good deal on. Sooo, does anyone have 
>> any of the following they’d be willing to part with:
>>
>>
>> 1. Riv Silver downtube shifters
>>
>> 2. 7-speed road cassette (preferably with 30t-ish max ring)
>>
>> (I'd use these friction with my existing late-eighties era rear 
>> derailleur)
>>
>>
>> and/or
>>
>>
>> 3. 9-speed indexed Shimano downtube shifters
>>
>> 4. 9-speed Shimano road rear derailleur (105 or Ultegra or some such)
>>
>> (I'd use these indexed with my existing 9-speed ultegra cassette)
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
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[RBW] Re: Want a San Marcos!

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Actually I had emailed BicycleClassics before opening this thread.  For 
many many days I received no response.  Just about when I had given up 
hopes of finding a new frame, I heard back.  It was quite a pleasant 
surprise.  The only disappointment was the fork.  The version I received 
does not have eyelets for mini rack.  A mini-rack was part of my original 
plan (I prefer them over the other versions purely for the looks).   

The frame arrived last weekend.  In the process of ordering parts.  Last 
night I ordered Veloce 10 speed groupset from http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk

Going to buy several parts directly from Rev (doing my part to support what 
they do)

No I had not run into your post on internetbob (until now I did not know 
about that group!)

 

On Tuesday, 15 November 2016 08:50:05 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Ashwath did you see my post on internetbob about BicycleClassics? They may 
> have a 51cm frame left still
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:36:18 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>>
>> Hello folks, 
>>
>> Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions 
>> and pictures here. 
>>
>> Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos. 
>>  However, I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the 
>> distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I 
>> might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling 
>> theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Want a San Marcos!

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Sorry about the delay coming back here.  Yes, I've managed to find one!!

As for pictures, of course.  How can I not not post pictures of the build! 
 Been busy with work, so it might take a couple of weeks.

Why not Ram or Rodeo, being new to the word of Rivendell, I don't know a 
whole lot about those bikes.  I stumbled upon a blog that talked about SM 
build.  That got my interest because of aesthetics and the upright 
geometry.   Somebody had suggested Sam.  I was mentally prepared to buy a 
Sam frame.



On Tuesday, 15 November 2016 08:06:03 UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Welcome to the list. And good luck finding a San Marcos. You do know that 
> there is a statutory requirement that you post photos of any new build?
>
> Curious: why San Marcos in particular? The Ram might be an alternative 
> worth considering, as certainly would be the Roadeo. (I've owned a Ram; 
> I've not ridden a Roadeo but am judging from others' opinions.)
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu  > wrote:
>
>> Hello folks, 
>>
>> Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions 
>> and pictures here. 
>>
>> Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos.  
>> However, I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the 
>> distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I 
>> might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling 
>> theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.  
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Re: [RBW] Want a San Marcos!

[Belopsky]

Maybe I was mistaken, I thought I had seen multiple posts by you, oh well..

Where is Bicycle Classics shipping from? I see two addresses for them - one 
in Michigan the other in Colorado - I actually had emailed them/him but 
have not heard back in a week+

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[RBW] Re: Drop bars for a kid: help me out.

[Sky Coulter]

Our ten year old son is pretty athletic and was insistent on getting drop 
bars.  I was pretty dubious, but thought it was worth the effort and bought 
him an old trek 520:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/25082999224/in/dateposted-public/

The fit was pretty terrible and he didn't feel confident on the bike and I 
was worried it just wasn't going to work out for him. Then I bought a small 
long haul trucker frame off an ibob member and transferred most of the 
parts from the 520 over while adding some more:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/27626962340/in/dateposted-public/

Since then, he's going up and down curbs with aplomb; mounting and 
dismounting while the bike is in motion and biking to school everyday (the 
only bike at the racks when I go past the school).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if your son wants to ride drops and 
you want to encourage him to take after you in a love of cycling, I think 
it's worth it to build up a bike specifically for drops so that he's 
comfortable and develops confidence.  The long haul trucker frame I bought 
for my son is one of if not my best biking investment.

Sky in new west



On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 7:50:04 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:

I got a little Clem for my kids last year when they came out. It is a great 
> bike. My oldest son has been riding it BUT  has just been so enamored by 
> drop bars on bikes whenever he sees them. He does not QUITE appreciate how 
> cool his bob-ish setup on the Clem is, no matter how many times the bike 
> shop staff or I tell him! 
> Right now we have VO tourist bars 
>  
> on 
> an 80mm stem.
> Question - if I want to have him try drop bars should I:
>
> Put some drops on the Clem, with a dirt drop style or shorter stem
>
> or is it too long in the top tube and not practical and not what it was 
> designed for and:
>
> Get a small used drop bar bike off of CL and let him play around with that?
>
> Thoughts from this smart group??
>
>
> Edwin
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[RBW] Re: Drop bars for a kid: help me out.

[Abcyclehank]

Edwin
The fact you treated your kids to a small Clem is truly a generous gift.  The 
best gift I ever purchased for my young son was a 43cm Cannondale R500 w 650c 
wheels. It had Shimano 105 components and drop bars and he road the shit out of 
that bike.  Flew like the wind and carved his love for cycling.  
Either option is good, and I suggest just being honest with him and see what is 
preference is.
Trying dropped bars on the Clem may work despite the the designed longer than 
usual top tube because it proportionally gets greater as each size increases; 
also the flexibility of young whippersnappers can surprise one and only he can 
tell you "he is physically comfortable". 
I would mention your willingness to try it but emphasis the designed purpose 
and offer an inexpensive drop bar bike in his size too.  His eyes and response 
will tell you far more than our personal bias and opinions.  
If together you decide to go with a second bike figure out again with his input 
an appropriate size.  Small enough to handle safely yet big enough to handle a 
growth spurt.  Stand over is important but less so than adults--again because 
of flexibility factors and desire/willingness to look the part.

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson

P.S. Personal Message me once you find a desired size range.  I may have 
something to consider that is otherwise waiting for a grandchild who is not 
even born yetI think I have a bike problem.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Poor man's Rivendell Road/Roadeo substitute?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for the replies. I'll keep a sharp eye out for a good old racing
frame from the pre-crit era with horizontal dropouts and bad paint, for
cheap. And if anyone has more personal experience comparing particular
makes/models with Rivendell road models, I'd like to hear from him/her.

I think I'll prefer a racing bike for the lighter tubing and fewer braze
ons; this will be a dedicated, retro-style gofast bike (of a sort; I'm not
very fast, but I do like light bikes). I don't need the braze ons; I've got
2 other bikes with full braze ons.

Why a separate bike for the AM hub? Because why not? More particularly, it
would be nice to have it match somewhat the period of the hub. Craig, if
you read this, the AM is very definitely *not* a substitute for a TF!

I'll use wheels appropriate to the frame, which if it is used and meets my
other criteria will be 700C.

Ray: what exactly do you mean by "it rides naively"? I can live with French
threading for a top line Motobecane, though of course I'd prefer English.
Rather wish I'd kept the Motobecane I once owned.

John -- thanks. I'm not quite ready yet, though I'll keep the Brothel in
mind. Just ended up paying more than I had anticipated for the Matthews
crank conversion (but it will be nice!) I'm hoping for another deal as with
the Motobecane: $25 on eBay with $30-40 shipping.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Shifting parts

[JohnS]

Hello Eric,

I hope you like you're 1x7 setup as much as I do on my '12 Salsa Casseroll. 
I'm using a CS-HG50 cassette (13,15,17,20,24,29,34), a 44 Sugino chain 
ring, Deore XT Integrated 8 SIS derailleur, 105 7 SIS down tube shifter and 
a better quality Shimano 6/7/8 speed chain, something like a HG70. All 
works great together, no ghost shifting, wide gear range, no gearing over 
lap, no front derailleur rub/trimming. One thing that I tried to do was to 
align the middle cog with the chain ring and to set that gear inch close to 
the cruising gear on my QB. This way the deflection from center to smallest 
cog is about equal to the deflection from center to largest cog. I've found 
that I'm usually on the middle cog or one up most of the time. I also 
recommend using a crank with 110 or 130 BCD so that it's easy/cheap to get 
a smaller or bigger ring should you need to bump the gearing one way or the 
other. I initially tired a 46 chain ring, but it felt a little too hard 
with the 20 tooth cog, whereas when I tired the 44, it was just right.

Good luck and happy trials,
JohnS

PS - Yes, I know those are some big jumps in gearing which may cause 
distress for some, but I like'm. 




On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 1:49:51 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> I built up my current 1x9 Hilsen drivetrain on the extreme cheap from 
> various existing parts. It’s a bit of a mess (severe ghost-shifting on 
> friction on a 9-speed cassette), and I’m ready to upgrade to make it all 
> work better. I like both indexed and friction, so I figure I’d make the 
> decision based on what I could get a good deal on. Sooo, does anyone have 
> any of the following they’d be willing to part with:
>
>
> 1. Riv Silver downtube shifters
>
> 2. 7-speed road cassette (preferably with 30t-ish max ring)
>
> (I'd use these friction with my existing late-eighties era rear derailleur)
>
>
> and/or
>
>
> 3. 9-speed indexed Shimano downtube shifters
>
> 4. 9-speed Shimano road rear derailleur (105 or Ultegra or some such)
>
> (I'd use these indexed with my existing 9-speed ultegra cassette)
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Eric
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Want a San Marcos!

[Tim Gavin]

You could use a Nitto M1 or M18 and run extra long stays down to the fender 
eyelets.

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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu  wrote:
> 
> Actually I had emailed BicycleClassics before opening this thread.  For many 
> many days I received no response.  Just about when I had given up hopes of 
> finding a new frame, I heard back.  It was quite a pleasant surprise.  The 
> only disappointment was the fork.  The version I received does not have 
> eyelets for mini rack.  A mini-rack was part of my original plan (I prefer 
> them over the other versions purely for the looks).   
> 
> The frame arrived last weekend.  In the process of ordering parts.  Last 
> night I ordered Veloce 10 speed groupset from http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk
> 
> Going to buy several parts directly from Rev (doing my part to support what 
> they do)
> 
> No I had not run into your post on internetbob (until now I did not know 
> about that group!)
> 
>  
> 
>> On Tuesday, 15 November 2016 08:50:05 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>> Ashwath did you see my post on internetbob about BicycleClassics? They may 
>> have a 51cm frame left still
>> 
>>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:36:18 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>>> Hello folks, 
>>> 
>>> Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions and 
>>> pictures here. 
>>> 
>>> Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos.  However, 
>>> I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the 
>>> distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I 
>>> might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling 
>>> theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.  
> 
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