Re: [RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

[Patrick Moore]

I've cut many seatposts and at least one stem quill and had absolutely no
problems with anything so modified.

Speaking of seatposts: weren't the old ones -- Records, those other early
road ones on every less expensive bike whose brand I now forget, but they
were ubiquitous -- Laprade! -- 180 mm from bottom of post to bottom of
clamp?

The seat tube on my Fargo is 43 cm; on a level-tubed road bike my ideal
would be a 60 c-c (with a 56-57 tt). It has a 40 cm seatpost, of which 21
cm or so is showing between top of clamp and bottom of cradle. I keep
meaning to cut off 10 cm or so, but keep forgetting. Bet I could save a lot
of weight and go a lot faster if I did this. Taking hacksaws to bike parts
is fun!

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> It is common and OK to cut off the unneeded part of a seat post.  I have
> done it, or you could take it to a bike shop with a good mechanic and have
> them do it. Lots of modern bikes require extremely long seatposts and the
> excess routinely gets cut off.   A couple of years ago I bought a beautiful
> used Saluki and was surprised to find that the classic Suntour Superbe
> seatpost had been cut pretty near the minimum of what I needed.
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

[Howard H]

Erl, this sounds exactly like what I experienced with my Ram last year. I took 
it to my LBS and they confirmed that the inner surface of the arm had worn and 
would never seat properly. They ordered a new Sugino left crank arm and 
installed it. I think the arm itself was surprisingly inexpensive, around 20 
bucks IIRC.

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[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

[Michael Hechmer]

I can confirm the unanimous opinion that the crank arm is toast.  And, BTW, 
the best strategy when you find you have a loose arm, and no tool, is to 
stop pedaling.  Call for help.   There is a little chance of saving the 
crank but every additional stroke reduces the chance.

Also, I now use a good long torque wrench to tighten crank bolts. My only 
experience of destroying a crank arm has begun with undertightened bolts 
and gone downhill from there.
Michael

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 1:06:59 AM UTC-4, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear WETH,
>
> The NDS crank is toast given how much time you've spent mashing on it 
> loose. If It won't stay tight, it is trash/recycling. The bb is 
> fine--hardened steel doesn't tend to deform much when it is mated poorly 
> with aluminum. 
>
> Next time, grease the tapers, crank it TIGHT (that's 40 n-m, or as tight 
> as you can make it with a peanut-butter wrench) and snug the crank bolts 
> back to torque (a torque wrench is helpful, but hellatight with a 9" wrench 
> is about right) after your first weekend riding. 
>
> Carry a suitable wrench (either an 8mm hex key, or a 14 or 15mm PB wrench 
> depending on your bolts) until you're confident the NDS has settled in. 
> Resist the urge to keep snugging up the bolt--you can split the 2deg 
> taper
>
> Best,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:26:25 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>>
>> Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
>> took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
>> Long version: really it is too long: 
>> Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last 
>> week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose 
>> and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt 
>> had not fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex 
>> wrench large enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I 
>> could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten 
>> the bolt a bit more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I 
>> repeated by previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to 
>> make it to work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills 
>> and coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
>> wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
>> had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
>> trouble free ride home. 
>>
>> Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened 
>> again.  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 
>>
>> About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
>> both crank arms to clean and inspect. 
>>
>> Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
>> interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
>> no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
>> this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
>> Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 
>>
>> Several other questions for the "MacGyvers" and engineers to satisfy my 
>> curiosity: 
>> 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex 
>> wrench?   
>> 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
>> fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
>> it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
>> Houston 
>> PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. 
>>  I did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
>> favor with the cycling gods. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New ACW mugs inspired by the orange...

[Jeff Lesperance]

My new ACW mug made it in to the office today. Should have commuted on the
orange XOXO I suppose, to be matchy, but Riv content preserved with SH in
the background, sporting its new ACW pin on the handlebar bag no less.


-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD


On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I got mine today! Somehow the lanyard makes it. Also got a couple cool ACW
> stickers and a pin. Stickers are already on the bike; first ever on the
> seat post.
>
> Very cool,
> Philip
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RE: [RBW] Re: RIP Jobst Brandt

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

What a wonderful picture.  Thanks so much for sharing it.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: RIP Jobst Brandt


[http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2006/images/sheldon-grant-jobst.jpg]
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
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[RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

[Bill Lindsay]

My 1987 Schwinn Paramountain is becoming even more Clemish.  Around the 
time the Clem pre-order happened, I had just finished stripping my frameset 
down for some body modification.  I was already emotionally invested in the 
Paramountain, since I just recently got a custom frame bag for it.  So, 
even though the Clem is plug and play and a better deal, I'm sticking with 
my franken-Clem.

Ed Litton put several braze ons...um...on for me.  The fork needed fender 
tips, mid fork braze ons and a fender eyelet hidden inside the fork crown.  
In back I needed rack braze ons on the seatstays and I had fender eyelets 
put in both bridges.  Now the Paramountain has a Nitto Mt Campee F20 front 
rack, and Velo Orange stainless steel fenders.  I uploaded 6 photos this 
morning, which can be scrolled here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157641291971794/

The latest ones are at the bottom.  Enjoy.  

Mechanics note.  The bike has suntour Roller cams, which are great brakes.  
When they QR open, though, they hit the fender, and put me in the annoying 
situation of having to deflate my front tire to get the wheel out.  So, 
last night I profiled the brakes to fit the curve of the fender much 
better.  Now they open wide enough for 42mm real width tires with some 
margin.  I might go at them again when the new Rat Trap Pass tires come 
out.  

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[RBW] Re: RIP Jobst Brandt

[Montclair BobbyB]

A sad (and perhaps grateful) day for cyclists.  I didn't learn of Jobst's 
passing until today.  And ironically just last evening I built up a 
beautiful set of wheels for a good friend in record time (with seemingly 
minimal effort).  I thought to myself, wow... I had a good teacher (in 
Sheldon Brown and most of all, Jobst Brandt) who have inspired so many 
fools like me to dare to become halfway proficient at wheel-building. 
 Today I raise my coffee cup (and red Spokey) to Jobst Brandt and Sheldon 
Brown.

Awesome pic of the threesome! 



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> 
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: New ACW mugs inspired by the orange...

[Darin G.]

I've been using an aeropress for almost two years and until this moment I 
couldn't figure out how to use the funnel.  

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-6, Jeff wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the rapid shipping, Brad! What a fantastic wee cup. Here 
>> are my initial impressions/observations:
>>
>> -- Aeropress is too wide to sit (rest) solidly inside the mug, but the 
>> mug is wide enough that coffee can be brewed into it using the Aeropress -- 
>> doing so requires punging with one hand on the plunger, the other on the 
>> winder section so the Aeropress doesn't ram/wedge into the mug. I brew 
>> using the standard, and it seems like the inverted might be awkward, at 
>> greater risk to spill? Others will have to comment on that. Not a big issue 
>> with me and the Aeropress is not what I take bikepacking, Helix cone is.
>>
>
> ...
>
> I recently ordered and am anticipating receipt of this fine looking mug 
> myself. I'm also an aeropress owner and regular user. I've found, that with 
> some mugs where the aeropress fit is a bit sketchy, as you've described, 
> Deacon, that I can use the funnel, which I believe is primarily meant as a 
> means to better funnel the coffee into the aeropress, to adapt it to a more 
> solid fit/feel while plunging, to get the brew out of the press, as 
> illustrated on this mug that doesn't really need the funnel to fit well, 
> but was my cup du jour:
>
>
> ​ 
>

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[RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?

[Kellie]

Helmet light. I use a rechargeable Dinnote. It is wonderful. Three levels 
of lighting, small and light. You can attach the battery to the helmut or 
it comes with a longer cord to tuck the battery in a pocket. Of course, 
depending on how much you use it you need a source to recharge.

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> In ten days I'll be heading out west for a ten day tour in Oregon. There 
> will be some long days where we'll be riding into the night, and that's got 
> me thinking about how I have my lights mounted. 
>
> I'm using an Edelux II light with a SONdelux hub. The light is mounted to 
> the light mount on a Nitto Campee front rack. It is perfect when riding in 
> the dark on straight roads or moderate curves. It is not so great when you 
> are on trails or tight fast corners, like switch backs when coming down the 
> mountains. Like all bike-mounted lights, the beam is directed forward, 
> rather than into the turn. This has given me a few hair-raising moments 
> when I can't see what's around the bend. 
>
> Mounting your light to your helmet is an obvious alternative, so you are 
> lighting whatever you are looking at. However, that's very awkward with a 
> dynamo.
>
> For those who ride in the mountains or on twisty roads, what do you do? 
> Maybe a dynamo plus a head/helmet light when required? 
>

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RE: [RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

That bike is the shizzle.  You going to repaint the new braze-on areas, or are 
you going for the “It’s a utilitarian bike – you gotta problem with that?” kind 
of approach?

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Subject: [RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

My 1987 Schwinn Paramountain is becoming even more Clemish.  Around the time 
the Clem pre-order happened, I had just finished stripping my frameset down for 
some body modification.  I was already emotionally invested in the 
Paramountain, since I just recently got a custom frame bag for it.  So, even 
though the Clem is plug and play and a better deal, I'm sticking with my 
franken-Clem.

Ed Litton put several braze ons...um...on for me.  The fork needed fender tips, 
mid fork braze ons and a fender eyelet hidden inside the fork crown.  In back I 
needed rack braze ons on the seatstays and I had fender eyelets put in both 
bridges.  Now the Paramountain has a Nitto Mt Campee F20 front rack, and Velo 
Orange stainless steel fenders.  I uploaded 6 photos this morning, which can be 
scrolled here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157641291971794/

The latest ones are at the bottom.  Enjoy.

Mechanics note.  The bike has suntour Roller cams, which are great brakes.  
When they QR open, though, they hit the fender, and put me in the annoying 
situation of having to deflate my front tire to get the wheel out.  So, last 
night I profiled the brakes to fit the curve of the fender much better.  Now 
they open wide enough for 42mm real width tires with some margin.  I might go 
at them again when the new Rat Trap Pass tires come out.
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[RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?

[Jeremy Till]

I haven't done a lot of night time trail riding on my dyno setup but my 
commute used to involve a fairly twisty multi-use paved trail where I would 
run into the same issue.  I picked up one of those Princeton Tec EOS helmet 
lights like Riv used to sell, and it's great, totally took care the looking 
into turns issue.  The newest ones use the current super-bright led's and 
run on three AAA batteries, so you can either use rechargeables or pick up 
spares in any gas station or convenience store.  I was amazed at how bright 
it is, I could easily ride with only it as a headlight.   It also has three 
brightness settings so you can run it on low beam when it's supplementing 
another light and get really good battery life out of it.   

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> In ten days I'll be heading out west for a ten day tour in Oregon. There 
> will be some long days where we'll be riding into the night, and that's got 
> me thinking about how I have my lights mounted. 
>
> I'm using an Edelux II light with a SONdelux hub. The light is mounted to 
> the light mount on a Nitto Campee front rack. It is perfect when riding in 
> the dark on straight roads or moderate curves. It is not so great when you 
> are on trails or tight fast corners, like switch backs when coming down the 
> mountains. Like all bike-mounted lights, the beam is directed forward, 
> rather than into the turn. This has given me a few hair-raising moments 
> when I can't see what's around the bend. 
>
> Mounting your light to your helmet is an obvious alternative, so you are 
> lighting whatever you are looking at. However, that's very awkward with a 
> dynamo.
>
> For those who ride in the mountains or on twisty roads, what do you do? 
> Maybe a dynamo plus a head/helmet light when required? 
>

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Re: [RBW] RIP Jobst Brandt

[Steven Sweedler]

Mark, thought you would like this pic, Sheldon, Grant and Jobst Brandt, who
died earlier this week. Steve

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[RBW] FS: 650b Panaracer Pasela PT - PAIR - $55 plus shipping.

[David Banzer]

Short story: PAIR of Panaracer Pasela PT 650b x 42mm Tires, Tanwall for 
sale: $55 plus shipping, contact off list, Paypal Personal please.

Long story: I ordered said tires for a Shogun conversion as there was lots 
of clearance for 650b tires. It was a very large frame, and with 38mm 650b 
tires, I was pushing standover clearance. After I ordered the tires, I 
resolved that the frame indeed was too big and sold it to another list 
member. Tires arrived and I installed them on a Univega conversion I've 
been working on. There was about 1mm of clearance on either side of the 
chainstays, so too tight for 42mm tires. I'll need to go back to 38mm, 
which is fine. So, now I have a pair of tires with no frame for them. I 
installed them and rode them about 10 miles.

Thanks,
David
Chicago

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Re: [RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

[Tim Gavin]

Very nice, Bill.  I had my '88 KOM frame blasted this winter, and my friend
Andy brazed on some fork end, seat stay, and dropout eyelets (my frame had
zero).  I left the frame bare and had a clear coat painted on.  It looks
great; consider the bare/clear.

Mine has cantis in front and U brakes in back, so no fender interference
with 2.1".  While 2.35" Super Motos are fantastic tires, they leave no
clearance for a fender.  I tried a P65 (very non-intrusive design) the
other day and it's just too tight.  And the U-brakes in back may not fit a
Super Moto.  I have to get another in hand to test fit (they're back in
stock next week!)

The Paramountain/KOM-10 is a great lugged, MUSA frame.  The later PDG
series (some TIG, some lugged) are also nice; I definitely keep my eye
out.  I'd love to score a cheap "blue velvet gas" (aka purple/fuschia)
lugged '92 Series 90.

-Tim

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thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:

>  That bike is the shizzle.  You going to repaint the new braze-on areas,
> or are you going for the “It’s a utilitarian bike – you gotta problem with
> that?” kind of approach?
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[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

[John]

Thank you everyone for piping up and letting me know I'm not riding off a 
cliff.

And thanks Joe for the offer of the stem, but having measured the whole 
bike/saddle/seat post set up at least 10 times, I'm going to go head and 
trim an inch off the end.

Boy, helping someone diagnose why they're not quite happy with their saddle 
set up isn't too easy.

Thanks again!

John 

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Re: [RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

[Bill Lindsay]

Tom asked

"You going to repaint the new braze-on areas, or are you going for the 
“It’s a utilitarian bike – you gotta problem with that?” kind of approach?"

Litton advised me to do the build before getting paint/powder, just in case 
there were any other issues.  I'm now thinking that I'll do a simple R14 in 
back, and I'm debating whether to leave the frame as it is or do a set of 
mid-stay braze ons in addition.  I'll (hopefully) use it for a few 
overnighters this summer and then get it powdercoated.  I'm debating 
whether to powdercoat the fenders at the same time.  
>
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[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

[Joe Bernard]

It's hard enough to figure out my OWN saddle issues. Get ta sawing and good 
luck!:)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Cecily Walker]

Thanks for asking, Hugh. 

I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has 
deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult, 
and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and 
again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward. 

I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from 
riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed. 


On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days? 
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  > wrote:
>
>> Great photos. Happy belated birthday!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>>> Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.
>>>
>>> Here 
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>   Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

[Ryan Fleming]

You can never have too much of a good thing:) I'm insanely jealous...
 
I've always really admired those Quickbeams.. I don't believe I've ever 
seen a photo of one that I didn't like.but I'll have to limp along with my 
PX-10. S'OK, it was my first good bike in 1973, and I'm very happy with the 
single-speed incarnation of version 3.0 built in 1974 But,  indeed, it's 
nowhere near as pretty as those Quickbeams. 
 
 
 
Ryan in Winnipeg
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:03:36 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've actually tried to rationalize getting a third Quickbeam. 
> Unsuccessfully so far, but gave it a good shot! 
> One townie, one monstercross, one light roadie. 
> the perfect trifecta of singlespeed goodness!
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>>
>> When it comes to bike acquisition, logic is overrated. 
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Philip Williamson 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:33 AM 
>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam. 
>>
>> This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60, 
>> light wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64! 
>> I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently, 
>> but couldn't rationalize it with logic. 
>>
>> Philip 
>> www.biketinker.com 
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Re: [RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Bill,
What a fun project! That turned out so cool. Thanks for sharing the pics.. 
Now you got my wheels are turning.
Who did the bag for you? Great Idea!
Keep us up to date on the paint.
Jon

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[RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?

[Kieran J]

I don't cycle much in pitch dark, but I do enjoy wearing a Petzl headband 
LED light when camping and walking the dog on dark trails. It's the best, 
and I could picture it also doing really well in supplementing a dyno setup 
like others have suggested.

KJ


On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 4:32:01 PM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> In ten days I'll be heading out west for a ten day tour in Oregon. There 
> will be some long days where we'll be riding into the night, and that's got 
> me thinking about how I have my lights mounted. 
>
> I'm using an Edelux II light with a SONdelux hub. The light is mounted to 
> the light mount on a Nitto Campee front rack. It is perfect when riding in 
> the dark on straight roads or moderate curves. It is not so great when you 
> are on trails or tight fast corners, like switch backs when coming down the 
> mountains. Like all bike-mounted lights, the beam is directed forward, 
> rather than into the turn. This has given me a few hair-raising moments 
> when I can't see what's around the bend. 
>
> Mounting your light to your helmet is an obvious alternative, so you are 
> lighting whatever you are looking at. However, that's very awkward with a 
> dynamo.
>
> For those who ride in the mountains or on twisty roads, what do you do? 
> Maybe a dynamo plus a head/helmet light when required? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

[cyclotourist]

'Beams are good looking bikes, no way around it!
Here's one more to add to the pool:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/17209157658/

Swapped a Swift for the Team Pro that was on it.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> You can never have too much of a good thing:) I'm insanely jealous...
>
> I've always really admired those Quickbeams.. I don't believe I've ever
> seen a photo of one that I didn't like.but I'll have to limp along with my
> PX-10. S'OK, it was my first good bike in 1973, and I'm very happy with the
> single-speed incarnation of version 3.0 built in 1974 But,  indeed, it's
> nowhere near as pretty as those Quickbeams.
>
>
>
> Ryan in Winnipeg
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:03:36 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've actually tried to rationalize getting a third Quickbeam.
>> Unsuccessfully so far, but gave it a good shot!
>> One townie, one monstercross, one light roadie.
>> the perfect trifecta of singlespeed goodness!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> When it comes to bike acquisition, logic is overrated.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Philip Williamson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:33 AM
>>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.
>>>
>>> This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60,
>>> light wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64!
>>> I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently,
>>> but couldn't rationalize it with logic.
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> www.biketinker.com
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[RBW] Re: New ACW mugs inspired by the orange...

[Deacon Patrick]

Already getting abuse, er, love, in the field!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/17409335341/

I have to say after a slightly longer than S24O that the ballance between 
lightweight and hearty is perfect. The double wall is brilliant. It kept my 
morning coffee a near steady temp with it at 35˚F out, so I could slow sip 
and warm up to the morning. I brew 20oz of coffee into my Klean Kanteen 
double walled thermous, then have three cups in this, all piping hot. Great 
job getting everything just right, Brad!

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

[Bill Lindsay]

Ely Rodriguez (RuthWorks) did the bag.  Google RuthWorks SF and you'll find 
him.  

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 1:36:58 PM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman in the foothills 
of Colorado wrote:
>
>
> Bill,
> What a fun project! That turned out so cool. Thanks for sharing the pics.. 
> Now you got my wheels are turning.
> Who did the bag for you? Great Idea!
> Keep us up to date on the paint.
> Jon
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[RBW] Dyno hub/light vibrations through handlebars question...

[Lungimsam]

I have a SON Deluxe wide body hub with an upside down Edelux II light.

The light is great, but I feel some vibration in the handlebars when the 
bike is over 20mph.

1. Is this normal for this kind of hub?
2. Is there any way to get rid of the vibrations?

Light is mounted to my front rack eyelet.

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Re: [RBW] Dyno hub/light vibrations through handlebars question...

[Jim Bronson]

The SON Deluxe actually has much less vibration than did the older
SON28 hubs and the Shimano hubs.

I have the SON Deluxe Widebody and I barely notice the vibration as
compared to the others I have used.  I recommend just getting used to
it, sorry.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:
> I have a SON Deluxe wide body hub with an upside down Edelux II light.
>
> The light is great, but I feel some vibration in the handlebars when the
> bike is over 20mph.
>
> 1. Is this normal for this kind of hub?
> 2. Is there any way to get rid of the vibrations?
>
> Light is mounted to my front rack eyelet.
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[RBW] Re: Dyno hub/light vibrations through handlebars question...

[William deRosset]

1. It is normal
2. There isn't an easy way to get rid of the vibrations.
3. Not that you asked, but some SON hubs are buzzier than others. I've had 
one that was borderline unpleasant, and I have one that is a real challenge 
to notice a difference between "off" and "on" on average pavement without 
visual cues from the lights. Most are somewhere in-between, and they tend 
to have a favorite resonant frequency somewhere around 17-20mph. I prefer 
them with higher resonant speeds and less vibes, as I average 15mph or so 
on overnight rides..

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO


On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 3:42:20 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> I have a SON Deluxe wide body hub with an upside down Edelux II light.
>
> The light is great, but I feel some vibration in the handlebars when the 
> bike is over 20mph.
>
> 1. Is this normal for this kind of hub?
> 2. Is there any way to get rid of the vibrations?
>
> Light is mounted to my front rack eyelet.
>

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[RBW] Pushing the boundaries till they push back

[Deacon Patrick]

Pushing the boundaries till they push back — it’s really the only way to really 
know what we’re capable of. I just wish my boundaries were further out there! 
Sardonic grin.

The plan: a two night, 160 mile loop to Deckers, Buffalo Creek, Lost Creek, 
Lake George, Divide, and home.

The reality: The same bloomin’ creosote poles that blew up my brain on Goose 
Creek Road a month ago haven’t aired out enough and blew up my brain again. 
That road is off my list for this year. I’m slow, but I try not to make the 
same mistake three times. Grin.

Got to dance with thunderstorms in stunning canyons following amazing rivers, 
climb some challenging hills, camp in a new to me area at the edge of National 
Forest at Lake Wellington, slog and bog my way up Stoney Pass which is lovingly 
being re-topped with as yet to be packed down new dirt, take in epic views of 
Pikes Peak from afar and Lost Creek and the Haymen fire burn area from close 
up, and then get my carcass hauled out from Deckers by my wonderful, far too 
good to me wife.

Photos prove the world is an amazing, beautiful place to explore and play!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157652026645308/

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Ryan Fleming]

That is too bad, Cecily. I hope that you have your surgery soon and the 
recovery is successful. I can well understand your frustration, loving my 
own bikes as much as I do. I would find your situation hard to bear, indeed 
 But  from what I've gleaned in your posts, you are a lady of great 
fortitude and I feel  in the end that you and Betty  will triumph!
 
Best wishes
 
Ryan in Winnipeg
On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 3:24:54 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:

> Thanks for asking, Hugh. 
>
> I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has 
> deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult, 
> and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and 
> again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward. 
>
> I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from 
> riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days? 
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  wrote:
>>
>>> Great photos. Happy belated birthday!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
 Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

 Here 

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Deacon Patrick]

Och, Cecily! Prayers for a successful surgery and rapid recovery and many 
years of riding ahead! Sometimes the road ahead is long and hard and 
involves a lot of LCG! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> Thanks for asking, Hugh. 
>
> I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has 
> deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult, 
> and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and 
> again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward. 
>
> I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from 
> riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days? 
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  wrote:
>>
>>> Great photos. Happy belated birthday!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
 Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

 Here 

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] The latest status of my Clemish build

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Thanks Bill!

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 3:35:01 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Ely Rodriguez (RuthWorks) did the bag.  Google RuthWorks SF and you'll 
> find him.  
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 1:36:58 PM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman in the foothills 
> of Colorado wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>> What a fun project! That turned out so cool. Thanks for sharing the 
>> pics.. Now you got my wheels are turning.
>> Who did the bag for you? Great Idea!
>> Keep us up to date on the paint.
>> Jon
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Ryan Fleming]

Sorry...what's LCG again when it's at home with its feet up?
On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 4:59:27 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Och, Cecily! Prayers for a successful surgery and rapid recovery and many 
> years of riding ahead! Sometimes the road ahead is long and hard and 
> involves a lot of LCG! Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for asking, Hugh. 
>>
>> I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has 
>> deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult, 
>> and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and 
>> again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward. 
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from 
>> riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days? 
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  wrote:
>>>
 Great photos. Happy belated birthday!


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

> Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.
>
> Here 
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Deacon Patrick]

Lowest common gear. In this case, two buns. Some days are like that, for 
whatever reason. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 4:02:23 PM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Sorry...what's LCG again when it's at home with its feet up?
> On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 4:59:27 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Och, Cecily! Prayers for a successful surgery and rapid recovery and many 
>> years of riding ahead! Sometimes the road ahead is long and hard and 
>> involves a lot of LCG! Grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Hugh Smitham]

Cecily,

What a bummer!  I know how frustrating this must be. It drives me Looney
when I'm forced off my bike for even a few days. I daydream of those days
when my body always cooperated no matter what I threw at it. Today is an
entirely different case I'm afraid. I can only imagine how painful your
knee pain is.

I agree with Ryan about your fortitude, you and betty will prevail.

Much Love,

~Hugh
On May 7, 2015 1:25 PM, "Cecily Walker"  wrote:

> Thanks for asking, Hugh.
>
> I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has
> deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult,
> and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and
> again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward.
>
> I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from
> riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed.
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days?
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  wrote:
>>
>>> Great photos. Happy belated birthday!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
 Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

 Here 

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: Dyno hub/light vibrations through handlebars question...

[Lungimsam]

Thanks, Jim and Will.

Will, when you say that some SON hubs are buzzier than others, do you 
mean between different models, or even among the same model, they buzz 
differently?

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[RBW] Re: Pushing the boundaries till they push back

[Lungimsam]

Sounds like a fun ride.
Hope you are feeling better.
What is a creosote pole? How do they blow up? 

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[RBW] Re: Pushing the boundaries till they push back

[Lungimsam]

Sounds like a fun ride. Hope you are feeling better. 

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[RBW] Re: Pushing the boundaries till they push back

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks! It was a blast! Recovering now via the uber LCG (two buns on the 
ground). It's slow compared with standard LCG, but it gets you moving 
again, eventually. Grin.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno hub/light vibrations through handlebars question...

[Eric Norris]

I get less vibration from my Shutter Precision hub than from my Schmidt hub 
(the kind with the large alloy shell, not the newer, bulb-shaped type). Running 
LED lights, which draw less current, also seems to reduce vibration (as well as 
drag).

I’ve found that having the lights “on” when starting from a stop makes the 
vibration less noticeable than if I turn the lights on while moving. 

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> 
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> 
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> between different models, or even among the same model, they buzz differently?
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[RBW] Re: RIP Jobst Brandt

[Kyle Brooks]

I never met Jobst personally, but had email conversations with him and had 
a lot of respect for him. Along with Sheldon Brown, he was kind of an icon 
to me.

I have my own little tribute to Jobst on The Retrogrouch Blog -- just 
posted a few moments ago:

http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2015/05/jobst-brandt.html

Kyle Brooks
Akron, OH, USA

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 9:49:51 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:
>
> I assume many here have at least heard of Jobst, and maybe a lesser number 
> have read and understood his writings on bicycling and wheel building.
>
>
> https://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2015/05/06/jobst-brandt-leaves-behind-memories-to-last-a-lifetime/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Cecily Walker]

Awww. Thanks, Ryan. 


On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 2:52:58 PM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> That is too bad, Cecily. I hope that you have your surgery soon and the 
> recovery is successful. I can well understand your frustration, loving my 
> own bikes as much as I do. I would find your situation hard to bear, indeed 
>  But  from what I've gleaned in your posts, you are a lady of great 
> fortitude and I feel  in the end that you and Betty  will triumph!
>  
> Best wishes
>  
> Ryan in Winnipeg
> On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 3:24:54 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for asking, Hugh. 
>>
>> I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has 
>> deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult, 
>> and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and 
>> again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward. 
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from 
>> riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days? 
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  wrote:
>>>
 Great photos. Happy belated birthday!


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

> Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.
>
> Here 
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning - Round 2. Parts & Bags - Odds & Ends.

[David Banzer]

Some stuff sold, updated list, mostly bags left:

Tall Rando Bag - roughly the same size as an Acorn Tall Rando bag, red 
waxed canvas, tan leather - *$175 *- 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/tall-rando-bag-red-waxed-canvas

Level Components Fixed Gear Hub - w/ 16t & 17t cogs, 36h, 135mm - *$50* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/level-components-fixed-gear-hub

1" Headset Mount Spring Bell - *$8* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/headset-mount-spring-bell

Zefal Solibloc Frame Pump - black - *$10* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/zefal-solibloc-pump

Jansport Backpack - not bike-specific but fits in a basket just fine - dark 
blue with brown leather - *$20* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/jansport-backpack-dark-blue-brown-leather

Bar Bag/Wedge Set - 2 bags, deluxe-y, leather liners - *$75* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/front-bar-bag-saddle-wedge-combo-black-w-leather-liner

Boxy Front Bag/Saddlebag - new design for me, 12x8x8, fits on a front rack 
or saddlebag support/saddle - *$90* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/boxy-front-bag-saddlebag

Small Saddlebag Test Bag - prototype of a new design - *$25* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/small-saddlebag-prototype-test-bag

Medium Saddle Wedge - YELLOW (1 available) OR RED (5 available) - *$25* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/medium-saddle-wedge-waxed-canvas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[dougP]

Cecily:

I sympathize with your missing the riding, especially just now as the 
weather is so encouraging of being outside.  Looking to the future, I've 
had two friends that have had knee replacements.  Both pursued the 
post-surgical physical therapy as aggressively as possible and were 
actually cleared to ride within 90 days, based on their rapid progress.  
One even motivated himself by booking a big, hilly tour so he had to keep 
on track to meet the tour date.  Good luck & keep us posted.  

dougP

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 3:16:11 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Cecily, 
>
> What a bummer!  I know how frustrating this must be. It drives me Looney 
> when I'm forced off my bike for even a few days. I daydream of those days 
> when my body always cooperated no matter what I threw at it. Today is an 
> entirely different case I'm afraid. I can only imagine how painful your 
> knee pain is. 
>
> I agree with Ryan about your fortitude, you and betty will prevail. 
>
> Much Love,
>
> ~Hugh
> On May 7, 2015 1:25 PM, "Cecily Walker" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for asking, Hugh. 
>>
>> I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has 
>> deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult, 
>> and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and 
>> again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward. 
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from 
>> riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days? 
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  wrote:
>>>
 Great photos. Happy belated birthday!


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

> Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.
>
> Here 
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

[Cecily Walker]

Thanks, Hugh. :) 

On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 3:16:11 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Cecily, 
>
> What a bummer!  I know how frustrating this must be. It drives me Looney 
> when I'm forced off my bike for even a few days. I daydream of those days 
> when my body always cooperated no matter what I threw at it. Today is an 
> entirely different case I'm afraid. I can only imagine how painful your 
> knee pain is. 
>
> I agree with Ryan about your fortitude, you and betty will prevail. 
>
> Much Love,
>
> ~Hugh
> On May 7, 2015 1:25 PM, "Cecily Walker" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for asking, Hugh. 
>>
>> I'm off the bike for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid. The knee has 
>> deteriorated to the point where riding more than 30 minutes is difficult, 
>> and hills are right out. I still take it out for short joy rides now and 
>> again, but I end up regretting it for days afterward. 
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a surgery date, after which I'll be barred from 
>> riding on the street for at least 6 months. I'm understandably bummed. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:16:39 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Cecily! How's your riding these days? 
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015, 6:14 PM Cecily Walker  wrote:
>>>
 Great photos. Happy belated birthday!


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

> Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.
>
> Here 
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

[Justin August]

If you wear butchering a 'Beam/'One to make it 650b would you replace canti 
studs with Paul Racer brazeons or just lower the canti studs?


If you were doing that. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: RIP Jobst Brandt

[Mike Shaljian]

Good piece by the Bike Snob on today's post: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

[Deacon Patrick]

Liesl, When I talked with the folks at Riv (I don't remember who), they 
said Big Ben would not be as supple but would have more protection.

I have to say, given what I put the tires through on my abbreviated tour, 
if you aren't flat prone, you would love these. I'm considering taking the 
Hunqapillar rather than the Quickbeam up Pikes Peak (all paved, with a 
loong curvy climb at the begening and a looong curvy fast descent 
at the end). With me and full water, food, and gear, the bike weighed 280 
pounds. I had a LOT of sandyish clayish mud to bog my way through and I 
still felt like I was floating over it compared with the Smart Sams (though 
my legs will tell you differently). The descents were equally challenging, 
with that same mud strewn liberally with fist-sized and larger rocks there 
was no way to miss. I was surprised by how well they handled all the varied 
conditions and terrain and circumstances.

Yes, it's $90 a pop, but I'd say if you're asking the question, you'll like 
the only answer that matters and that's the ride. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:
>
> I'm intrigued!  Can anyone compare how's the clearance for fenders with 
> Big Ben v. Thunder Burts?  And thoughts about the TB's as a commuter tire, 
> summer and winter both?  The reduction in weight is of great interest.  I 
> run 26" BB's on the wee but long custom and *love* the ride (and that I can 
> get them in brown).  However, I'm just not that big and not that young so 
> when the bike is set up with front and rear racks and bags, it's hard for 
> me to carry it up and down the stairs to the basement where the little 
> steed beds down for the night in fluffy fresh hay.  Losing 2 pounds in 
> tires would be appreciated!  Also note that I am not flat-prone (which of 
> course will change immediately now that I put it in writing).
>
> RCW
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

[Hugh Smitham]

Liesl,

I just received by TB's and promptly mounted them on my '03 Atlantis
running 26" wheels and took it for a spin today. My initial reaction is
damn wow! I road mixed terrain,  mostly sandy loose trail with some fist
sized rocks. Right off the bat I was amazed how fast they rolled over
asphalt and how sure footed they felt in the loose trail, especially
compared to the Big Ben's I've been running.

Clearance:

I have 60 mm SKS fenders and the TB's have gobs more room, probably because
they measure 47.5mm on my DT Swiss 23mm OD MTB rims, versus the Big Ben's
which on the same rims measures approximately 53.5mm.

Supple:

I know this seems a stretch but they have that Grand Bois Hetre suppleness
which at least for me translates into a cush ride. I ran them at 40 psi and
they rolled really quick, sort of feel like I could run em at 35 psi and be
fine.

Price:

I purchased them from
http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/schwalbe-thunder-burt-evo-snakeskin-pacestar-26x2.10-tl-easy-folding-405726
for two I paid IIRC $85.76 approximately that included shipping. They
arrived really quickly considering they came from Germany and had to go
through customs.

Keep in mind I can't speak to durability since I just started riding them,
pretty sure the Big Ben's will last a really long time. I however am
willing to sacrifice that for a supple, fast, weight saving tire that
increases my riding pleasure, along with the potential for increased flats.
Hey out West here the dreaded "Goat Head" don't discriminate. They went
easily through my brand new Big Ben's.

I think with the cost it's an easy decision.

Happy riding,

~Hugh
On May 6, 2015 9:31 AM, "Liesl"  wrote:

> I'm intrigued!  Can anyone compare how's the clearance for fenders with
> Big Ben v. Thunder Burts?  And thoughts about the TB's as a commuter tire,
> summer and winter both?  The reduction in weight is of great interest.  I
> run 26" BB's on the wee but long custom and *love* the ride (and that I can
> get them in brown).  However, I'm just not that big and not that young so
> when the bike is set up with front and rear racks and bags, it's hard for
> me to carry it up and down the stairs to the basement where the little
> steed beds down for the night in fluffy fresh hay.  Losing 2 pounds in
> tires would be appreciated!  Also note that I am not flat-prone (which of
> course will change immediately now that I put it in writing).
>
> RCW
>
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[RBW] FS stems, threadless 1" etc

[subfascia]

Nice, slim, well made 1" threadless stems!

I have a few spare stems for sale. 
All prices include shipping in conusa, further is extra. Al measurements are 
+/- 5mm because of variance in measurement styles.  These are measures in the 
center lf the stem body, not down the top.  Email for details.

Ritchey: 
Force quill stem - $20 120x 25.4 clamp
Ritchey threadless 1" 26.0 clamp.
6degree 110 black - $50
17degree (aka flat with a 73° ht) 
  110 black-$60 
  110 silver-$60 
  125 silver -$60 

Cannondale 6° 1 1/8 x 31.6 x115 - $30 
ahead force 0° 1 1/8x25.4x110  -$30
Deda  17° 1 1/8x26.0x110 black NOS -$60

Email offlist please. 

I would consider a trade for a brooks C17/C15. 

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Thanks
Jason
SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

[Mike Shaljian]

Look, Schwalbe is offering the Thunder Burt as a 29 X 2.25" model now! Even 
more volume for super-cush All-Road and trails riding! 
http://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/thunder-burt.html

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