Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

David, I think you got my photos twice and missed Hugh's. Sorry. A long 
week for you! If you make a correction, might be cool to post all over 
again, adding that great video link to have them together. Just saying', 
but not to make work for you!

Paul

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 12:56:36 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I think I have all the albums compiled here... let me know if I forgot 
> somebody! These show the perspective of the lugs & leather crowd pretty 
> nicely!
>
> Paul's: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
>
>
> Hugh's: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
>
>
> Esteban's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/16929993845/
>
>
> Jim's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651544957831
>
>
> Mine: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157651165005667/
>
>
> Philip's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/16716596259/
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I made my annual trip from Va. to L.A. to see my sister and ride with 
>> bro-in-law, Ian - and of course do a repeat of the Strada Rossa!
>>
>> These two albums are from Ian's and my ride last Saturday doing the 
>> Redlands Inland Empire Biking Alliance mixed-surface 50k / 100k group ride:
>>
>> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/ 
>> *
>>
>> Our Sunday post-ride ride was as much fun, thanks to David (cyclotourist) 
>> Estes giving up his day to guide us through Redlands and up to the single 
>> track riding in the Crafton Hills Trails:
>>
>> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/ 
>> *
>>
>> David's wife, Holly and family treated us to a great lunch after - on 
>> very short notice! Thanks Holly!
>>
>> Ian rode his Rivendell Atlantis with fat Smart Sams and I rode his 
>> Rivendell Homer Hilsen (one size too large) with Schwable Dureme's. That 
>> hard packed stuff was not a problem on those stout bikes. I was glad to 
>> have plenty of east coast single tracking experience though! Bikes seen 
>> along the way ranged from carbon fiber CX bikes, to all-steel like ours, to 
>> mountain bikes. Fun for all.
>>
>> Great fun both days, but that California sun is hard on a east-coast guy! 
>> I came back with a farmer's tan!
>>
>> Paul Germain 
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>>> We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great 
>>> host, we had gourmet pizza & craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We 
>>> had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the second year riding his 
>>> brother in laws A.A.H. and  Ian on his custom red Atlantis, Biketinker 
>>> Phillip came down from Northern Cal with Jacquie Phelan representing. Jim, 
>>> Estaban & Aaron were seen climbing some awesome single track. This is short 
>>> so others can fill in any details I miss.
>>>
>>> Here's some images:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/with/16285457244/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>   Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Peter Adler]

In that case, you won't want the White Industries models, either. I've 
ridden an MI5 on a jury-rigged CX bike for several years, and it out-"angry 
bee"s CK in ordinary use. It's a great trick for clearing a bike path of 
less-purposeful traffic; the hub has the sound of Getting Things Done.

I haven't ridden many Shimano freehubs; but frankly, I can't think of any 
freehub I've ever ridden that I'd call quiet. I take pride in lubing my 
freewheels as quiet as possible (Suntour and Regina give the best results); 
but for freehubs, pawl noise seems to be an inherent part of the design.

Peter Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:07:12 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> No, thank you.  They're attractive hubs but their noise bothers me like 
> few things do.  Seriously, I'm a very chill person but I find noisy hubs 
> very irritating.
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Re: [RBW] Ram with 38s (third eights)!!!!!

[Eric Daume]

Hope it doesn't rain where he is.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Matt Isaacs just emailed me with this photo of the frame I sold him, built
> up with  Compas 38s!!!
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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

[ascpgh]

On the supply side, threadless makes good sense when you look over the 
issues of how a fork of perfect steerer length but too much or too little 
threading can be troubling. Lots of very precise things have to be done to 
measure, select, prepare and install a threaded fork. The legal counsel of 
manufacturers are probably much happier that much of which is not necessary 
to do the same with threadless forks. I have one of each on the bikes I 
ride the most and really appreciate the threaded headset bike for many 
reasons, one being the intellectual OCD knowledge that it has been prepped, 
sized, installed and adjusted correctly. I also find the flex of the stem 
reassuring on out of the saddle climbs.

Too little threading on the fork (new headset w/ lower stack height, trying 
to put a fork  from the next size up on a smaller frame) will force a shop 
to add some with their tools which are technically chasers for cleaning up 
machine cut threads, not cutters. Those things are really delicate when you 
go off into the bare metal and do not have strong directional guidance once 
you extend from the factory threads guiding the endmost of its teeth. I saw 
some threads added beyond what came on an Italian steel fork, less than an 
inch, drift off axis because of this. I could see it, and when a headset 
cup was run down the threads to the new ones the tilt in comparison to the 
steerer's axis was obvious. Butted steerers threads shouldn't be extended 
beyond what came with them for the thinner wall a mechanic risks threading. 
They'll shear more easily when torqued.

Threaded headsets were a place of utmost tolerances until the cartridge 
bearing units and bushing-padded ball races came along to overcome 
tolerances, trained mechanics, expensive tools and educated customers. They 
de-emphasized the need for using a head tube mill to face and chase the 
tube to precise diameter, axial alignment and make the ends perfectly 
parallel to each other. The play of the cartridges seating and the gush of 
the bushed races reduced the care needed to prep a frame if at all, either 
at a local shop or in a factory assembling a box bike. They also are a bit 
more finicky about holding adjustment when many spacers are between the 
adjustable cup, its keyed washer and the lock nut.

Threaded headset stack height, the length of threading it covers when 
installed when the locknut is snugged just right and its capping flange 
just clears the end of the steer by a mm or two, when changing a headset 
often required cutting of small amounts from the steerer which in the local 
shop often bolluxed more threads below the cut than removed above it. A 
hacksaw cut had to be cleaned up by some skillful file work to clean the 
threads and the indexing groove for the adjustable cup's keyed washer.

Too many threads remaining on the fork or ill-advised use of a stem without 
enough quill to get the wedge fully below the threaded area produced bad to 
catastrophic results; the thread under the lateral force of the wedge would 
propagate a crack that would express itself as a bulge or an actual 
fracture around the steerer or longitudal cracking along the indexing 
washer groove, most discovered by a headset that went out of adjustment 
while JRA. 

Threadless has it's place on many counts but some are over emphasized. 
Their steerers are stout straight gauge, eroding some of the lighter weight 
claims since "one size fits all" I find the larger diameter steerers hide 
the initial presentation of an out of adjustment headset until 
embarrassingly obvious. The whole thing about all of the rise and 
adjustment being stem obligate dimensioning (once your steerer has been 
cut) leaves plenty of options, the one you need is always $198 and out of 
stock when you troll for it though. 

Lots of ways to mess up threaded fork bikes, I was out of the retail trade 
before the breadth of threadless equivalent repairs came about.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh



On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 1:18:47 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and how 
> much they are cut depends on the manufacturer.  Generally it's rare to have 
> more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper.  In fact, the fork is 
> usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install the 
> stem and assure proper headset adjustment.  I usually like to move the stem 
> to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for 
> rise).  
>
> The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every size 
> coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer uncut and 
> without the star nut not pressed in.  When I was service manager at a shop, 
> I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes.  However, that 
> does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't understand how 
> threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their bars that h

[RBW] Re: Bargain Atlantis in Virginia

[islaysteve]

Lots of racing bike's and frames, esp. Italian .  Saw bikes I've never seen 
like Hetchins and Mercien (multi-colored !).  Pretty reasonable prices.  
Vintage wool jerseys and cheap poly ones.  Some vintage parts.  Lots of toe 
clips.  I don't have a smartphone so no pix, sorry .  Most frames in the 55-56 
sizes.
Steve

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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

[Tom Harrop]

I don't have a particular preference for either system. I'm sure both are 
fine and I'm happy to accept the seemingly prevailing opinion that 
threadless is functionally better. But for my particular case it is not 
possible to get the bars high enough with a threadless setup (OK, maybe it 
would work with a custom fork), so it's is a non-starter.

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Re: [RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[David Johnston]

Ah, I looked it up, here is the Shimano Silent Clutch:

http://www.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/bikecomponents/FH/EV-FH-R080-1640A_v1_m56577569830612194.pdf

It came into the market and went silently as well. I'm not sure why,
maybe it was less reliable or heavy, as this blog indicates.

https://blog.dictvm.org/silent-clutches/

-Dave

On 3/29/15, Peter Adler  wrote:
> In that case, you won't want the White Industries models, either. I've
> ridden an MI5 on a jury-rigged CX bike for several years, and it out-"angry
>
> bee"s CK in ordinary use. It's a great trick for clearing a bike path of
> less-purposeful traffic; the hub has the sound of Getting Things Done.
>
> I haven't ridden many Shimano freehubs; but frankly, I can't think of any
> freehub I've ever ridden that I'd call quiet. I take pride in lubing my
> freewheels as quiet as possible (Suntour and Regina give the best results);
>
> but for freehubs, pawl noise seems to be an inherent part of the design.
>
> Peter Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:07:12 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> No, thank you.  They're attractive hubs but their noise bothers me like
>> few things do.  Seriously, I'm a very chill person but I find noisy hubs
>> very irritating.
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

[James Warren]

Thanks David!

The link to Philip's photos is a bit startling!


On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:56 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

> I think I have all the albums compiled here... let me know if I forgot 
> somebody! These show the perspective of the lugs & leather crowd pretty 
> nicely!
> 
> Paul's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
> 
> Hugh's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
> 
> Esteban's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/16929993845/
> 
> Jim's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651544957831
> 
> Mine: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157651165005667/
> 
> Philip's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/16716596259/
> 
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I made my annual trip from Va. to L.A. to see my sister and ride with 
> bro-in-law, Ian - and of course do a repeat of the Strada Rossa!
> 
> These two albums are from Ian's and my ride last Saturday doing the Redlands 
> Inland Empire Biking Alliance mixed-surface 50k / 100k group ride:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
> 
> Our Sunday post-ride ride was as much fun, thanks to David (cyclotourist) 
> Estes giving up his day to guide us through Redlands and up to the single 
> track riding in the Crafton Hills Trails:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/
> 
> David's wife, Holly and family treated us to a great lunch after - on very 
> short notice! Thanks Holly!
> 
> Ian rode his Rivendell Atlantis with fat Smart Sams and I rode his Rivendell 
> Homer Hilsen (one size too large) with Schwable Dureme's. That hard packed 
> stuff was not a problem on those stout bikes. I was glad to have plenty of 
> east coast single tracking experience though! Bikes seen along the way ranged 
> from carbon fiber CX bikes, to all-steel like ours, to mountain bikes. Fun 
> for all.
> 
> Great fun both days, but that California sun is hard on a east-coast guy! I 
> came back with a farmer's tan!
> 
> Paul Germain 
> Midlothian, Va.
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
> We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great 
> host, we had gourmet pizza & craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We 
> had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the second year riding his 
> brother in laws A.A.H. and  Ian on his custom red Atlantis, Biketinker 
> Phillip came down from Northern Cal with Jacquie Phelan representing. Jim, 
> Estaban & Aaron were seen climbing some awesome single track. This is short 
> so others can fill in any details I miss.
> 
> Here's some images:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/with/16285457244/
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Kieran J]

The Shimano LX hubs (and undoubtedly other models) are quite silent. Almost 
no pawl noise.

KJ


On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 8:13:59 AM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> Ah, I looked it up, here is the Shimano Silent Clutch: 
>
>
> http://www.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/bikecomponents/FH/EV-FH-R080-1640A_v1_m56577569830612194.pdf
>  
>
> It came into the market and went silently as well. I'm not sure why, 
> maybe it was less reliable or heavy, as this blog indicates. 
>
> https://blog.dictvm.org/silent-clutches/ 
>
> -Dave 
>
> On 3/29/15, Peter Adler > wrote: 
> > In that case, you won't want the White Industries models, either. I've 
> > ridden an MI5 on a jury-rigged CX bike for several years, and it 
> out-"angry 
> > 
> > bee"s CK in ordinary use. It's a great trick for clearing a bike path of 
> > less-purposeful traffic; the hub has the sound of Getting Things Done. 
> > 
> > I haven't ridden many Shimano freehubs; but frankly, I can't think of 
> any 
> > freehub I've ever ridden that I'd call quiet. I take pride in lubing my 
> > freewheels as quiet as possible (Suntour and Regina give the best 
> results); 
> > 
> > but for freehubs, pawl noise seems to be an inherent part of the design. 
> > 
> > Peter Adler 
> > Berkeley, CA/USA 
> > 
> > On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:07:12 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: 
> >> 
> >> No, thank you.  They're attractive hubs but their noise bothers me like 
> >> few things do.  Seriously, I'm a very chill person but I find noisy 
> hubs 
> >> very irritating. 
> >> 
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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Tony DeFilippo]

"don't forget matches or a lighter"

+1

And another endorsement for the helix dripper, porlex mini grinder and a good 
mug.  A French press is more of a crowd pleaser if your serving up 2 or more 
customers though... Timing for multiple cups with one stove and one dripper can 
be tedious if you're cold and caffeine-starved.

Oh and you need a camera of course because no pictures means it didn't happen! 

Happy brewing!

Tony

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[RBW] security

[Will]

I need some security advice. I have a new-to-me Atlantis. It is an 
excellent condition. Paint is 9.9/10, build is excellent. It's a real 
looker. 

My problem is that I no longer want to ride my other bikes. This, I am 
sure, is a familiar story here. I thought my other Bobish bikes were nice. 
I monkeyed with them to make them nice, but the Atlantis is simply much, 
much better.

So what to do?

Riv recommends Pitlocks for the front wheel and seat post in conjunction 
with an Abus cable. 

What does this list do?

I'm not going to leave the bike outside overnight, or in sketchy 
situations. I will park at the library, Trader Joe's, the grocery store, 
etc... mostly public places with sidewalk traffic. 

Advice?

Will

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Kellie]

^^^What I meant by pictures in my post was, pictures of all of you outside 
with your coffee. (-:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 6:51:27 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> "don't forget matches or a lighter" 
>
> +1 
>
> And another endorsement for the helix dripper, porlex mini grinder and a 
> good mug.  A French press is more of a crowd pleaser if your serving up 2 
> or more customers though... Timing for multiple cups with one stove and one 
> dripper can be tedious if you're cold and caffeine-starved. 
>
> Oh and you need a camera of course because no pictures means it didn't 
> happen! 
>
> Happy brewing! 
>
> Tony

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

David,

Of course, there's always the "custom" route. Back in 1989, before 
threadless, I had Steve Potts fillet braze be a beautiful stem with a cap 
for a (new, then) Bontrager fillet brazed Cx-based bike. I think I got the 
idea from Bruce Gordon's Rock & Road frames back then.  Loved that thing! 
(Bike & stem) But, eventually sold it to a friend so that I can visit now & 
then. Still makes my heart pitter-patter to se it:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2010/cx057-paulgermain0410.html

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:01:42 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Ha! Yes, you're totally correct. I only mention Surly as their otherwise 
> great bikes seem to have that one error. And it's not a QBP thing as Salsa 
> has relatively tall headtubes on even their racey bikes like the Warbird. 
> I'm sure there's a reason for it it, probably that it's easier to add 
> spacers but you can't take it away. 
>
> As for threadless question... I'm moving pretty strongly into the prefer 
> threadless camp. It seems like a pretty good change away from a good but 
> fiddly design to something that works well for me. Open face stems alone 
> make it worthwhile! 
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Eric Daume  > wrote:
>
>> 29ers are even worse. There are a lot of XL 29ers out there with a 
>> 100~110mm head tube. It's ridiculous. To get the bars at saddle height, us 
>> tall folks will need 50-80mm of spacers, which looks dorky.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:43 PM, cyclotourist > > wrote:
>>
>>> I wish Surly would have proportionately taller head tubes on their 
>>> bikes. They are across the board 20-30mm too short IMHO. The 60cm 
>>> Crosscheck for example has a 160mm headtube. To my way of thinking, that 
>>> should be 190mm. 180 would be a good compromise. Then you could get rid of 
>>> 30mm of spacers on the steerer, which would help it look cleaner and less 
>>> hacky.
>>> I guess they don't want to alienate the 'Slam dat stem' crowd... :-) 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy Till >> > wrote:
>>>
 The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and 
 how much they are cut depends on the manufacturer.  Generally it's rare to 
 have more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper.  In fact, the 
 fork is usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe 
 install 
 the stem and assure proper headset adjustment.  I usually like to move the 
 stem to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for 
 rise).  

 The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every 
 size coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer 
 uncut and without the star nut not pressed in.  When I was service manager 
 at a shop, I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes.  
 However, that does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't 
 understand how threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their 
 bars that high.  Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a 
 critical part of bike buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack, 
 and if they test ride the bike with a "normal" stem height they're 
 unnerved 
 by the extra spacer stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the 
 solar plexus. So, there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them 
 uncut. 

 Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1" threaded headsets and quill 
 stems but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior.  
 With steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can 
 run the bars above the headset.  In fact, a high bar setup feels much more 
 solid with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset 
 adjustment 
 is far easier.  Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving 
 Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more 
 deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler.  

 With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is 
 much more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem.  I'm 
 sure different manufacturers would say different things but I would never 
 want to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max.  
  



 On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

> How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless 
> floor model road bikes when assembling? 
>
> Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go 
> by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? 
>
> My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than 
> usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill 
> stems. 
>
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[RBW] New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Matt]

Someone with a business background (not me) could probably chime in with a name 
for it, but what I see is a classic pattern used in product sales and marketing.

There is an established classic bicycle aesthetic, with ascribed qualities, 
values, and identities, that Rivendell is arguably at the forefront of.  New 
Albion capitalizes on this established and well-worked-for aesthetic by 
providing bike buyers with solid elements of the aesthetic, but at a lower 
price.

This is why KIA designed a car to look like the Honda Civic and Ford made the 
Taurus look like an Aston Martin.  They tread heavily on the design of the more 
established, higher status and more expensive product, but sell at a cheaper 
price.

So like buyers of the Ford Taurus, buyers of the New Albion might aspire to one 
day afford/own a Rivendell, but settle (at least in the mean time) for 
something that fulfills to their satisfaction both the aesthetic needs and 
functional needs of the bike, but at a lower cost.

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

['Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My setup: aeropress, porlex mini mill, snow peak giga power auto, ti pot, 
double wall ti mug, ti spork, bandana to clean things, and a sea to summit 
packing cell everything tucks into perfectly. 

Hudson in atx

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[RBW] New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Matt]

Do others find there is a kind of "Bicycle Ladder" like there is a "Property 
Ladder?"

As an example, for me, I started my bike obsession piecing bikes together from 
parts found in the trash.  Then I had a decent wheelset built for my favourite 
of the 1980's found frames.  Then I bought a used Soma frame and moved all the 
best parts over.  Then I bought a used Surly and built myself a nice wheelset.  
Then I bought a used Rivendell frame. One day I'd like a custom, etc.

Perhaps the New Albion is just another available rung to this Ladder?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

[cyclotourist]

It captured the feel nicely :-)

Hugh's set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157651110302400

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:49 AM, James Warren 
wrote:

>
> Thanks David!
>
> The link to Philip's photos is a bit startling!
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:56 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> I think I have all the albums compiled here... let me know if I forgot
> somebody! These show the perspective of the lugs & leather crowd pretty
> nicely!
>
> Paul's:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
>
> Hugh's:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
>
> Esteban's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/16929993845/
>
> Jim's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651544957831
>
> Mine: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157651165005667/
>
> Philip's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/16716596259/
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I made my annual trip from Va. to L.A. to see my sister and ride with
>> bro-in-law, Ian - and of course do a repeat of the Strada Rossa!
>>
>> These two albums are from Ian's and my ride last Saturday doing the
>> Redlands Inland Empire Biking Alliance mixed-surface 50k / 100k group ride:
>>
>> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
>> *
>>
>> Our Sunday post-ride ride was as much fun, thanks to David (cyclotourist)
>> Estes giving up his day to guide us through Redlands and up to the single
>> track riding in the Crafton Hills Trails:
>>
>> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/
>> *
>>
>> David's wife, Holly and family treated us to a great lunch after - on
>> very short notice! Thanks Holly!
>>
>> Ian rode his Rivendell Atlantis with fat Smart Sams and I rode his
>> Rivendell Homer Hilsen (one size too large) with Schwable Dureme's. That
>> hard packed stuff was not a problem on those stout bikes. I was glad to
>> have plenty of east coast single tracking experience though! Bikes seen
>> along the way ranged from carbon fiber CX bikes, to all-steel like ours, to
>> mountain bikes. Fun for all.
>>
>> Great fun both days, but that California sun is hard on a east-coast guy!
>> I came back with a farmer's tan!
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>>> We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great
>>> host, we had gourmet pizza & craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We
>>> had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the second year riding his
>>> brother in laws A.A.H. and  Ian on his custom red Atlantis, Biketinker
>>> Phillip came down from Northern Cal with Jacquie Phelan representing. Jim,
>>> Estaban & Aaron were seen climbing some awesome single track. This is short
>>> so others can fill in any details I miss.
>>>
>>> Here's some images:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/with/16285457244/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>   Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Tim Gavin]

Have you tried the redesigned PL23? It's supposed to be a lot stronger than the 
original design, hence they no longer advise a #185 weight limit.

Thanks for the recommendations, everyone. For the price and the noise factor, 
I'll probably just get a Shimano hub.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:
> 
> Pacenti PL23 is a pretty lightweight rim (maybe the lightest 650b rim on the 
> market), the walls are thinner than Synergy, I think it will offer less dent 
> protection.
> 
> I'm a big fan of Shimano rear hubs, especially the ones that are last years 
> or earlier models on closeout. I think shimano hubs are about the quietest of 
> the ratchet systems, wasn't there some brand with a ring clutch though that 
> was even quieter?
> 
> Where did you find the 5500 in 36h? I think Riv only has them in 32h for the 
> rear.
> 
> -Dave J
> 
> 
> 
>> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:23:03 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>> I'm looking for a rear hub.  Let me know what spares you have, or if you 
>> know of a great deal.
>> 
>> 130 mm OLD 
>> 8/9/10 speed cassette freehub
>> 36 hole
>> Silver body
>> Quiet pawls (no loud "angry bee" hubs)
>> 
>> I'd like something high quality; I'm currently riding the Phil freewheel hub 
>> original to my '97 Riv and it's butter-smooth (with new bearings). 
>> 
>> I will build it up with a new Pacenti PL23 rim.  I keep denting Synergy OC 
>> rims (2 since September, the cheapo ZAC19 I had before was dent free).
>> 
>> I see my new options as:
>> White Industries T11 or MI5 ~$325
>> Paul RHUB ~$325 (noisy?)
>> Phil Wood ~$410
>> Velo Orange Grand Cru Touring ~$110
>> Ultegra 6700 ~$100
>> 105 5500 ~$55
>> 
>> Any other good options?  What do I gain (besides MUSA) by going with the 
>> Paul or White Industries vs. the Ultegra or Grand Cru?  Are any of the ones 
>> I listed noisy, and I don't know it yet?  Also, anyone know a great price 
>> for spokes?  Best I see is ~$.80 per (in quantities of 50 or 100).
>> 
>> Items I offer in trade:
>> Nitto Big Front rack (excellent condition)
>> Sackville Trunksack Large Olive (good condition)
>> Revelate Tangle frame bag, Large (brand new)
>> Nitto Moustache bars, Dirt Drop 8 stem, and Dia-compe non-aero brake levers
>> Campagnolo Athena 9-speed (old) Ergo brake/shifters -- good hoods, work 
>> great, come with free Race Triple RD if wanted (free b/c it has a crack in 
>> the mount knuckle). These index shift 9 speed Campy or 7 speed whatever (set 
>> up on a freewheel currently).  Works fine with a triple, Race Triple FD also 
>> available.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Tim Gavin
>> Cedar Rapids, IA
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[RBW] security

[drew beckmeyer]

I live in LA.
First I had a wheelset stolen. Adapted to use the Sheldon technique. Then I had 
an entire bike stolen by cutting thru the budget u-lock. I learned from that 
and bought a real u-lock and pit lock skewers. Still had the front wheel 
stolen. Now I use a kryptonite ulock for the rear which is connected to a beefy 
cable woven thru the whole bike. I've had no issues since. I think it just 
looks like too much work. But I still wouldn't leave a Rivendell outside here 
for more than a couple hours.
Then again, just when I thought I had my technique down, someone broke into our 
house and stole another bike. None of these were rivs, thank god.

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[RBW] Re: security

[dougP]

Will:

A lot depends on the general level of crime in your area and where you 
would park the bike out of your sight.  The security measures mentioned 
sound pretty solid, and parking where there's foot traffic is good.  OTH, I 
read a while back about an experiment a bike mag did where they locked a 
bike in a public place, then came back a few minutes later with a an angle 
grinder & whacked the lock off in plain view of passersby, with no one 
paying any attention.  

When traveling, I lock my Atlantis with a big old honkin' Kryptonite cable 
about a half inch in diameter.  No doubt it could be cut with the right 
equipment.  Locking it to a table or tree when camping means someone is 
going to have to make some noise to steal it.  When lodging it comes 
inside.  The nervous part is when I have to leave the bike, say at a 
trailhead, for a couple of hours.  Thieves are known to wander around 
target rich environments.  

The best security is to have either your butt on the seat or your hand on 
the bike (not an original thought; read that somewhere).  And after 12 
years I still get nervous sometimes.  For knocking around town I have an 
old 3 speed for errands.  Not glamorous or desireable, I lock it up outside 
the library or the grocery without a thought.  

dougP

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 6:53:03 AM UTC-7, Will wrote:
>
> I need some security advice. I have a new-to-me Atlantis. It is an 
> excellent condition. Paint is 9.9/10, build is excellent. It's a real 
> looker. 
>
> My problem is that I no longer want to ride my other bikes. This, I am 
> sure, is a familiar story here. I thought my other Bobish bikes were nice. 
> I monkeyed with them to make them nice, but the Atlantis is simply much, 
> much better.
>
> So what to do?
>
> Riv recommends Pitlocks for the front wheel and seat post in conjunction 
> with an Abus cable. 
>
> What does this list do?
>
> I'm not going to leave the bike outside overnight, or in sketchy 
> situations. I will park at the library, Trader Joe's, the grocery store, 
> etc... mostly public places with sidewalk traffic. 
>
> Advice?
>
> Will
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Evolv Cruzer Shoes - men's 13

[Kieran J]

Shoes are sold.


On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 1:58:04 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> I have a pair of tan new-ish Evolv Cruzer approach shoes for sale. 
>
> Cool shoes. These have been said to work well for cycling, and they do. 
> Comfy, lightweight and fast-drying.
>
> They are size 13, but they fit more like an 11. I typically wear size 12, 
> and I ended up getting a pair of size 14, which fit great.
>
> These have not been worn out, only around the house a couple of times to 
> verify they were too small. They do have some dust/scuffs but they are new.
>
> $40 shipped. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

[William deRosset]

Dear Patrick,

Threadless is mostly about SKU reduction and ease of manufacture. It has 
small benefits and small costs for the end user. I personally prefer it, 
but not to the extent that I held my breath and drummed my heels on the 
workshop floor when Mike Kone at René Herse specified a threaded steerer 
for my most-traveled bike.

1. However, Threadless is more convenient when you travel. If you want to 
fly with your bike, and it has fenders, lights etc, then it is really most 
convenient to pull the fork rather than faff with pulling the bike apart to 
bare frame/fork/headset. I'd rather travel with a 5mm allen than a pair of 
32mm headset wrenches. Also, headsets generally won't work loose when 
adjusted properly, but it does happen. When it happens on tour, it is 
decidedly inconvenient unless you've packed appropriate tools, and the 
appropriate tools for a threaded headset are bulky.

3. I know nothing of Surly machines other than seeing them around town (and 
having tootled around on a cross-check, a steamroller, a Karate Monkey, and 
a Pacer over the years). The bikes in my (middling) sizes came with long 
steerers. 

Unlike many here, I ordinarily have to come pretty close to playing "slam 
dat stem" with modern "all-rounder" type machines (which have tall head 
tubes and use compact geometry to raise the front end) to get my preferred 
(most comfortable) road-going position, one that engages the core and 
glutes when climbing. When Mike and I worked out the geometry for the 
Boulder Bicycle Road Sport, one of the adjustments he made from his initial 
prototype (my bike) was to raise the front end another 15mm. Offroad is 
different, of course.

https://picasaweb.google.com/107184177736333468354/56CmBoulderBicycleRoadSportPrototype?authuser=0&feat=directlink

One other note: many manufacturers do choose to use 1 1/8" steerers in 
heavy gauge materials. It isn't the only option, just the least-cost one, 
and the heavy wall is just not necessary with clamp-on stems. 1" steerers 
are pretty much only available in gauges suitable for threading (1/16" wall 
in the belly, necessary to take threading and to resist distortion by a 
quill stem's expander bolt). A 1 1/8" fork done with a light-gauge butted 
steerer and (matching larger-diameter head tube) is break-even or a little 
ahead on weight with respect to a frame/fork with a 1" standard-gauge 
steerer, and is stiffer (which may improve fork judder with cantilevers). 
The "weight savings" is in the stem itself, and may be a selling point in 
the marketing wars, but really doesn't matter. 

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO




On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 6:40:36 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thanks, Will. I still don't get it, but then I don't get why shoes aren't 
> foot shaped, have a raised heel, cushioning, and support either. Sardonic 
> grin.
>
> 1: Are they really that hard to adjust? I've figured it out and go touring 
> without headset wrenches and have never had an issue. Not to say I won't, 
> but can it really be so hard?
> 3: I've seen many threadless bikes (often Surlys around here, and I'm only 
> looking at the L and XL) that have no way to get to the right handlebar 
> height, but a threaded headset would allow that were it on the same bike. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Anne Paulson]

Aeropress users: I have an aeropress, but when I use it according to
the directions, the coffee is way strong, much stronger than the
coffee I made with my Melitta filter. Is that just the way the coffee
is supposed to be, or should I use half the ground coffee they say?
The aeropress is a fussy procedure for coffee that is stronger than I
want.


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> double wall ti mug, ti spork, bandana to clean things, and a sea to summit 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Deacon Patrick]

I water it down after, unless I want an espresso-like experience. I get a 
full mug, including cream, from a single scoop of beans, though it only 
takes up a small portion of the mug when it's brewed.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Anne Paulson]

The directions call for 18 grams of coffee, which is TWO scoops of beans.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Deacon Patrick]

I've never weighed it, I just use a single heaping scoop. Perhaps that's 
worth a try?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[William deRosset]

Dear Anne,

It is coffee. Adjust to taste, either by watering it down directly or using 
less coffee per cup.

I ended up with 24g of coffee per 10oz cup, and run all the water through 
the grounds. I do find the Aeropress is neater than my french press 
(cleanup is very simple), and produces a mellower cup of coffee.

Best,

Will

William M. deRosset
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On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:12:51 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> Aeropress users: I have an aeropress, but when I use it according to 
> the directions, the coffee is way strong, much stronger than the 
> coffee I made with my Melitta filter. Is that just the way the coffee 
> is supposed to be, or should I use half the ground coffee they say? 
> The aeropress is a fussy procedure for coffee that is stronger than I 
> want. 
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:42 AM, 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> > wrote: 
> > My setup: aeropress, porlex mini mill, snow peak giga power auto, ti 
> pot, double wall ti mug, ti spork, bandana to clean things, and a sea to 
> summit packing cell everything tucks into perfectly. 
> > 
> > Hudson in atx 
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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

[Deacon Patrick]

Looks great! I love how changeable Rivendells are depending on use, tires, 
racks, and bags. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Shawn Granton]

For coffee outside, I don't have a "standard" setup, as I play around a lot 
with what I have. (Sometimes I bring the hand grinder, sometimes I grind at 
home.) But the device I pull out the most is my Esbit coffee maker, a 
unique little moka pot/percolator that makes a decent cup o' coffee. It 
always gets a comment, and so far I haven't run into anyone else with one!
-Shawn


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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

[dougP]

" Of course the basket stays though."

Of course!  For summer you still need to carry the beach towel, book, small 
cooler & large hat.  Seriously, that's a neat & tidy set-up that still 
maintains plenty of carrying capacity.  

dougP

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> After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple years 
> I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for some 
> more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On went 
> the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my trusty 
> and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do run a 
> bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with the 
> Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.
>
> -Hudson in ATX
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[RBW] Simplifying the Simpleone

[Philip Williamson]

Beautiful! My basket is a full timer, too.

Philip
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Re: [RBW] Fund my Clem sale!

[Philip Williamson]

It does look like swapping the cranks and saddle for generic units could move 
the bike faster, and net you more money.

Philip
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

[Philip Williamson]

I think Jacquie said her "Otto" bike is on loan, possibly to a museum. I don't 
think she rides it, since it has become an Artifact. Definitely an LD stem, but 
I don't know if any were production, or all were custom.

Philip
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Kellie]

Thanks for the photo! will this coffee maker work over any type of stove?

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>
>
> 
>
>
> 
> For coffee outside, I don't have a "standard" setup, as I play around a 
> lot with what I have. (Sometimes I bring the hand grinder, sometimes I 
> grind at home.) But the device I pull out the most is my Esbit coffee 
> maker, a unique little moka pot/percolator that makes a decent cup o' 
> coffee. It always gets a comment, and so far I haven't run into anyone else 
> with one!
> -Shawn
>
>
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[RBW] FS: MUSA splats, Showers Pass Club Convertible Rain Pants

[Zack]

1 pair MUSA splats, size B, never used: $20
1 pair MUSA splats, size C, used a handful of times: $17
1 pair Showers Pass Club Convertible Rain Pants, size XL, used a handful of 
times: $75

add $5 shipping for first item, free to add another item.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Shawn Granton]

Kellie-

No, it's designed to work with the Esbit stove that nests inside the pot
when stored.

-Shawn

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> Thanks for the photo! will this coffee maker work over any type of stove?
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 9:54:16 AM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> For coffee outside, I don't have a "standard" setup, as I play around a
>> lot with what I have. (Sometimes I bring the hand grinder, sometimes I
>> grind at home.) But the device I pull out the most is my Esbit coffee
>> maker, a unique little moka pot/percolator that makes a decent cup o'
>> coffee. It always gets a comment, and so far I haven't run into anyone else
>> with one!
>> -Shawn
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Deacon Patrick]

Here's the set on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Esbit-Stainless-Steel-Coffee-Tablets/dp/B002AQCLT0

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 12:15:04 PM UTC-6, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Kellie-
>
> No, it's designed to work with the Esbit stove that nests inside the pot 
> when stored.
>
> -Shawn
>
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> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Kellie  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the photo! will this coffee maker work over any type of stove?
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 9:54:16 AM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> For coffee outside, I don't have a "standard" setup, as I play around a 
>>> lot with what I have. (Sometimes I bring the hand grinder, sometimes I 
>>> grind at home.) But the device I pull out the most is my Esbit coffee 
>>> maker, a unique little moka pot/percolator that makes a decent cup o' 
>>> coffee. It always gets a comment, and so far I haven't run into anyone else 
>>> with one!
>>> -Shawn
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That is a great looking bike!!  Makes me want to single-speed my Handsome 
Devil, which is extremely close to the Simpleone in geometry and size.  



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>
> After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple years 
> I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for some 
> more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On went 
> the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my trusty 
> and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do run a 
> bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with the 
> Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.
>
> -Hudson in ATX
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

[Bill Lindsay]

Richard

Hopefully you will make contact. More than once in the last year Peter has had 
health issues cause delays in his shipping of FS items. I hope he is well and I 
hope you eventually get your bars

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I love these coffee threads!  

I've got an old Mr. Coffee 4-cup drip machine, a French Press, a Moka pot, 
a Keurig and one of those Vietnamese single-cup coffee makers that sits on 
top of your cup.  I'm getting closer and closer to springing for an 
Aeropress because the curiosity is killing me!



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> I"m gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what 
> people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home 
> without. Add your photos as well. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Fund my Clem sale!

[Wayne Naha]

That is a great idea, but I have nothing to substitute in their place. 
 Still, I am more than happy to sell the bike as frame/fork/headset/bb to 
any interested party.  A lot of the removed parts could transition directly 
onto my Clem, which would be a big help.  What about that Kooka crank on a 
anthracite Clem?  I like it already.

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>
> It does look like swapping the cranks and saddle for generic units could 
> move the bike faster, and net you more money. 
>
> Philip 
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[RBW] Re: Fund my Clem sale!

[Wayne Naha]

I mean, consider the bike as a frame/fork/headset/bb sale only.

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[RBW] Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[SeanMac]

Hi folks,

Taking advantage of the cold weather to work on a Noodle to Albatross 
conversion project.  Unfortunately, it is not off to a very good start.  
After removing the noodle bars, I decided to remove my stem as well.  I 
loosened the bolt , gave it a light wack with a rubber mallet and pulled 
the stem right out.  Unfortunately, the expander bolt remained inside the 
head tube.  Despite my best efforts I cannot remove it.

What I have tried - so far
1)  Put the stem back in place, put the bolt back, tightened things up and 
tried to remove it again.  Same result as before
2)  Put the bolt in (no stem) and screwed it into the expander bolt and 
tried to pull the wedge and the bolt out with a pair of vice grips on the 
bolt.  Again, no go.

At this point I am at a bit of a loss as to what to do.  My plan was to 
replace the stem with one that had both a longer quill and a longer 
extension.  However, I am guessing that if I cannot remove the wedge that I 
am in big trouble.

Any advice / suggestions about what to do would be appreciated.

The bike is an early 1990s Trek 520.  These are not the original parts.  
The stem was likely in place for three or four years before I started 
fussing with it.

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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

[George Schick]

Looks like pretty much all of the pro's & con's of threadless vs. quill 
stems have been covered in these threads (no pun intended).  I have bikes 
with each, agree with most of the remarks, don't have any real quarrel with 
the threadless per se.  One thing worth mentioning, though, if you're going 
threadless is to make sure you buy a quality stem like a Ritchey or 
similar.  I have a Surly 1x1 equipped with a threadless fork that always 
seemed to bind when the bars were turned in one direction and no matter how 
I adjusted it, it always seemed to be loose.  Turned out that the bottom of 
the cheap stem was not machined perfectly flat which made for uneven spacer 
seating on bearings.  I replaced it with a quality stem (which I carefully 
measured to ensure decent machining) and all the problems went away.  

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>
> Dear Patrick,
>
> Threadless is mostly about SKU reduction and ease of manufacture. It has 
> small benefits and small costs for the end user. I personally prefer it, 
> but not to the extent that I held my breath and drummed my heels on the 
> workshop floor when Mike Kone at René Herse specified a threaded steerer 
> for my most-traveled bike.
>
> 1. However, Threadless is more convenient when you travel. If you want to 
> fly with your bike, and it has fenders, lights etc, then it is really most 
> convenient to pull the fork rather than faff with pulling the bike apart to 
> bare frame/fork/headset. I'd rather travel with a 5mm allen than a pair of 
> 32mm headset wrenches. Also, headsets generally won't work loose when 
> adjusted properly, but it does happen. When it happens on tour, it is 
> decidedly inconvenient unless you've packed appropriate tools, and the 
> appropriate tools for a threaded headset are bulky.
>
> 3. I know nothing of Surly machines other than seeing them around town 
> (and having tootled around on a cross-check, a steamroller, a Karate 
> Monkey, and a Pacer over the years). The bikes in my (middling) sizes came 
> with long steerers. 
>
> Unlike many here, I ordinarily have to come pretty close to playing "slam 
> dat stem" with modern "all-rounder" type machines (which have tall head 
> tubes and use compact geometry to raise the front end) to get my preferred 
> (most comfortable) road-going position, one that engages the core and 
> glutes when climbing. When Mike and I worked out the geometry for the 
> Boulder Bicycle Road Sport, one of the adjustments he made from his initial 
> prototype (my bike) was to raise the front end another 15mm. Offroad is 
> different, of course.
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/107184177736333468354/56CmBoulderBicycleRoadSportPrototype?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
> One other note: many manufacturers do choose to use 1 1/8" steerers in 
> heavy gauge materials. It isn't the only option, just the least-cost one, 
> and the heavy wall is just not necessary with clamp-on stems. 1" steerers 
> are pretty much only available in gauges suitable for threading (1/16" wall 
> in the belly, necessary to take threading and to resist distortion by a 
> quill stem's expander bolt). A 1 1/8" fork done with a light-gauge butted 
> steerer and (matching larger-diameter head tube) is break-even or a little 
> ahead on weight with respect to a frame/fork with a 1" standard-gauge 
> steerer, and is stiffer (which may improve fork judder with cantilevers). 
> The "weight savings" is in the stem itself, and may be a selling point in 
> the marketing wars, but really doesn't matter. 
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 6:40:36 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Will. I still don't get it, but then I don't get why shoes aren't 
>> foot shaped, have a raised heel, cushioning, and support either. Sardonic 
>> grin.
>>
>> 1: Are they really that hard to adjust? I've figured it out and go 
>> touring without headset wrenches and have never had an issue. Not to say I 
>> won't, but can it really be so hard?
>> 3: I've seen many threadless bikes (often Surlys around here, and I'm 
>> only looking at the L and XL) that have no way to get to the right 
>> handlebar height, but a threaded headset would allow that were it on the 
>> same bike. 
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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[RBW] Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Kainalu]

Some liquid wrench soaking and a stack of fender washers on top would allow you 
to use the bolt to pull it free from its anchor, maybe. That would get you 
infinitely more torque than the vice grips method. Good luck
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Patrick Moore]

I make my coffee at home and take it out into the field in a thermos --
actually, for cycling, I prefer tea *a la Inde*, which isn't the syrupy
goop you get here but cheap black tea made very strong with a lot of milk
and sugar. It is the most amazing energy drink.

But back to coffee: I like decent coffee, strong, and in large amounts --
breakfast for years has been 20+ oz of very strong coffee with lotsa milk
or half 'n' half and sugar. I also am cheap. I've tried the stovetop
so-called espresso makers, the press, Melita, and of course your garden
variety drip machine, but I like my kitchen utensils small enough to fit
easily into a cupboard.

Melita makes strong coffee in the #2 size, but all the #4s I've seen seem
to make it weaker. The press makes decently strong coffee, but the flavor
is less "clear". The stovetop maker is a pain to use.

I'm interested in the Aeropress, but wonder if it can make only 8 oz or so
at once. That would be a deal-killer, since I'd need to brew 3 batches for
breakfast.

Can anyone advise:

About quantity servings with the Aeropress;
The best method of getting a strong, clear, good-tasting brew with the most
economical measure of beans.
Any other coffee making/buying/storing/appreciating advice?

Thanks.

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[RBW] Simplifying the Simpleone

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice build, great fit, good job Hudson. I think a front rack with a basket 
completes a SO/Q build. The basket is always offering to simply hold our stuff 
while we hop on and simply just ride. My Q is complete overlap with other bikes 
in the stable, but I think I will ride it to the end of my days. 

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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

[RoadieRyan]

my Handsome Devil has had many configurations from 3x9  to 1x9 but never a 
single speed I would be curious how that works out

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:27:19 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> That is a great looking bike!!  Makes me want to single-speed my Handsome 
> Devil, which is extremely close to the Simpleone in geometry and size.  
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-5, Hudson Doerge wrote:
>>
>> After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple 
>> years I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for 
>> some more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On 
>> went the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my 
>> trusty and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do 
>> run a bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with 
>> the Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.
>>
>> -Hudson in ATX
>>
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Re: [RBW] security

[Patrick Moore]

My "errand" bike is a Riv custom, and my security method is principally to
bring the bike inside with me as often as I can. The area grocery stores
are used to me wheeling the bike through the aisles; at the library I can
at least park it in the foyer; at church I copied the key to the utility
room and park it there (or else simply wheel it in to the men's bathroom
or, if the building is not crowded, through the nave into an adjacent
classroom. (Since I've been a parishioner since 1994, longer than anyone
else, and have been doing this for almost as long, I get away with it.)

In other circumstances I like to use a lock made from towing chain: this
stuff, sold by the nearby True Value, can't be cut with a bolt cutter and
the clerk has to use a bench grinder and finish it with a hacksaw: a 15
minute job. A 2' section is heavy but cheap and secure, and I slip it
though an old MTB innertube and finish the system with one of these:

[image: Inline image 1]



On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Will  wrote:

> I need some security advice. I have a new-to-me Atlantis. It is an
> excellent condition. Paint is 9.9/10, build is excellent. It's a real
> looker.
>
> My problem is that I no longer want to ride my other bikes. This, I am
> sure, is a familiar story here. I thought my other Bobish bikes were nice.
> I monkeyed with them to make them nice, but the Atlantis is simply much,
> much better.
>
> So what to do?
>
> Riv recommends Pitlocks for the front wheel and seat post in conjunction
> with an Abus cable.
>
> What does this list do?
>
> I'm not going to leave the bike outside overnight, or in sketchy
> situations. I will park at the library, Trader Joe's, the grocery store,
> etc... mostly public places with sidewalk traffic.
>
> Advice?
>
> Will
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Re: [RBW] security

[Patrick Moore]

I forgot to add that the proper technique for being accepted with bike in
store aisles is to march in with an attitude of lordly proprietorship and,
if challenged, respond with an air of mystified outrage.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> My "errand" bike is a Riv custom, and my security method is principally to
> bring the bike inside with me as often as I can. The area grocery stores
> are used to me wheeling the bike through the aisles; at the library I can
> at least park it in the foyer; at church I copied the key to the utility
> room and park it there (or else simply wheel it in to the men's bathroom
> or, if the building is not crowded, through the nave into an adjacent
> classroom. (Since I've been a parishioner since 1994, longer than anyone
> else, and have been doing this for almost as long, I get away with it.)
>
> In other circumstances I like to use a lock made from towing chain: this
> stuff, sold by the nearby True Value, can't be cut with a bolt cutter and
> the clerk has to use a bench grinder and finish it with a hacksaw: a 15
> minute job. A 2' section is heavy but cheap and secure, and I slip it
> though an old MTB innertube and finish the system with one of these:
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Will  wrote:
>
>> I need some security advice. I have a new-to-me Atlantis. It is an
>> excellent condition. Paint is 9.9/10, build is excellent. It's a real
>> looker.
>>
>> My problem is that I no longer want to ride my other bikes. This, I am
>> sure, is a familiar story here. I thought my other Bobish bikes were nice.
>> I monkeyed with them to make them nice, but the Atlantis is simply much,
>> much better.
>>
>> So what to do?
>>
>> Riv recommends Pitlocks for the front wheel and seat post in conjunction
>> with an Abus cable.
>>
>> What does this list do?
>>
>> I'm not going to leave the bike outside overnight, or in sketchy
>> situations. I will park at the library, Trader Joe's, the grocery store,
>> etc... mostly public places with sidewalk traffic.
>>
>> Advice?
>>
>> Will
>>
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Re: [RBW] security

[Deacon Patrick]

It's the same technique walking into a store with a service dog. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:28:02 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I forgot to add that the proper technique for being accepted with bike in 
> store aisles is to march in with an attitude of lordly proprietorship and, 
> if challenged, respond with an air of mystified outrage.
>  

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Re: [RBW] Simplifying the Simpleone

[Eric Daume]

What do you do with the fender when you have to remove the rear wheel?

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:40 PM, 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple years
> I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for some
> more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On went
> the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my trusty
> and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do run a
> bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with the
> Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.
>
> -Hudson in ATX
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Re: [RBW] Simplifying the Simpleone

['Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

When the tire is deflated the real wheel can be squeezed out, which works out 
since I almost never remove the rear wheel except to fix the rare flat. 

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[RBW] The accent, if nothing else, makes this fully Rivendellian

[Patrick Moore]

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[RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[KC]

Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for extreme 
speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm cheviot 650b 42. 
I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said they 
are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 

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[RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Kellie]

I have 43's on mine; Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads. Nice center tread for 
street riding (with a little hum). I had 33's, Gran Bois Cypress before. 
Don't really notice a difference in speed, but *do* notice a more comfy 
ride and increased ability off road with the 43's.

GB Cypress



Rock and Road's






On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for 
> extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm 
> cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with 
> cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 

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[RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[dougP]

"I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said 
they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "

In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy don't have 
much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression of big 
tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB knobbies or 
beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure tires it's no 
surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike as-is & see 
how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding with people 
who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a special case.  
If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more miles in that 
way.

dougP

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>
> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for 
> extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm 
> cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with 
> cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado]

Hopefully it's caused by corrosion and the liquid wrench will break it 
loose. Another common problem is over tightening the stem bolt causing the 
steerer tube to bulge.Do you have access to the expander from the bottom of 
the fork?Can you remove the fork??
I use water proof marine grease on my stem and use it liberally.
Good luck with your project.
Jon
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 12:58:23 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Taking advantage of the cold weather to work on a Noodle to Albatross 
> conversion project.  Unfortunately, it is not off to a very good start.  
> After removing the noodle bars, I decided to remove my stem as well.  I 
> loosened the bolt , gave it a light wack with a rubber mallet and pulled 
> the stem right out.  Unfortunately, the expander bolt remained inside the 
> head tube.  Despite my best efforts I cannot remove it.
>
> What I have tried - so far
> 1)  Put the stem back in place, put the bolt back, tightened things up and 
> tried to remove it again.  Same result as before
> 2)  Put the bolt in (no stem) and screwed it into the expander bolt and 
> tried to pull the wedge and the bolt out with a pair of vice grips on the 
> bolt.  Again, no go.
>
> At this point I am at a bit of a loss as to what to do.  My plan was to 
> replace the stem with one that had both a longer quill and a longer 
> extension.  However, I am guessing that if I cannot remove the wedge that I 
> am in big trouble.
>
> Any advice / suggestions about what to do would be appreciated.
>
> The bike is an early 1990s Trek 520.  These are not the original parts.  
> The stem was likely in place for three or four years before I started 
> fussing with it.
>

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[RBW] Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[ted]

If all else fails,
remove the wheel pull brake or rack if needed for clear access to wedge from 
crown end of steerer,
Flip bike with headset / top of steerer end supported on bench or blocks on 
floor, 
Run largest drill that won't mess up steerer through wedge, the bolt hole 
providing a center guide,
Tap remaining bit of wedge out with long drift punch and hammer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Kathy Carroll]

My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the reason i
have the cheviot with 650b 42 tires. Specifically, he was concerned with
the continental tour rides they put on it. Riv response is you don't go
fast when you get flats.  I get that, but you also don't want to be lagging
behind in the herd of rivs.

Haven't had a chance to even show my new bike to my son yet.  But my
husband seems to be riding faster than me and that's not the plan
On Mar 29, 2015 2:16 PM, "dougP"  wrote:

> "I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said
> they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "
>
> In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy don't have
> much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression of big
> tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB knobbies or
> beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure tires it's no
> surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike as-is & see
> how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding with people
> who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a special case.
> If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more miles in that
> way.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>
>> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for
>> extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm
>> cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with
>> cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[ted]

Krups moka brew. Works well, more compact than most self contained counter top 
machines. Not cheep, but not super expensive either. If you use it every day 
and amortize over years, the price per pot is probably quite reasonable.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[James Warren]

Hetres


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On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:40 PM, KC  wrote:

> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for extreme 
> speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm cheviot 650b 
> 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said 
> they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Deacon Patrick]

Tires change easily. Try the tires you want to try and see if you get 
faster and/or have more flats.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 3:25:00 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
>
> My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the reason i 
> have the cheviot with 650b 42 tires. Specifically, he was concerned with 
> the continental tour rides they put on it. Riv response is you don't go 
> fast when you get flats.  I get that, but you also don't want to be lagging 
> behind in the herd of rivs.  
>
> Haven't had a chance to even show my new bike to my son yet.  But my 
> husband seems to be riding faster than me and that's not the plan
> On Mar 29, 2015 2:16 PM, "dougP" > wrote:
>
>> "I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said 
>> they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "
>>
>> In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy don't have 
>> much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression of big 
>> tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB knobbies or 
>> beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure tires it's no 
>> surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike as-is & see 
>> how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding with people 
>> who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a special case.  
>> If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more miles in that 
>> way.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for 
>>> extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm 
>>> cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with 
>>> cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 
>>
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[RBW] Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

['jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It possible the wedge is "wedged" into the thicker butted end of the steerer. 
IF that's the case, going from the bottom of the fork will be the best bet. 
Liquid wrench is a good idea too. Several times I've had luck flipping it over, 
place the top nut of the HS on a block of wood, then use a long heavy punch and 
a decent hammer or small sledge to TAP it up through the steerer. Best done 
with a second set of hands to hold the bike steady. A piece of rebar would work 
too. Once I broke it free of the thicker steerer section it fell right out. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Kellie]

Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive experiment. I'd 
give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really familiar with your 
Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I didn't like them; 
they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB Cypress, which are 
supple and buttery smooth. Some complain of flats with them but I haven't 
had a one for over a year. Even rode a 50 mile day on some light gravel 
with them. They're now planned to reside on my new to me Saluki I'm 
building. The Cypress' also started on my Cheviot, but then I wanted more 
tread and thicker tires for grip/comfort on the dirt trails.

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Tires change easily. Try the tires you want to try and see if you get 
> faster and/or have more flats.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 3:25:00 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
>>
>> My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the reason i 
>> have the cheviot with 650b 42 tires. Specifically, he was concerned with 
>> the continental tour rides they put on it. Riv response is you don't go 
>> fast when you get flats.  I get that, but you also don't want to be lagging 
>> behind in the herd of rivs.  
>>
>> Haven't had a chance to even show my new bike to my son yet.  But my 
>> husband seems to be riding faster than me and that's not the plan
>> On Mar 29, 2015 2:16 PM, "dougP"  wrote:
>>
>>> "I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son 
>>> said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "
>>>
>>> In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy don't 
>>> have much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression of big 
>>> tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB knobbies 
>>> or beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure tires it's 
>>> no surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike as-is & 
>>> see how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding with 
>>> people who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a special 
>>> case.  If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more miles in 
>>> that way.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:

 Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for 
 extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm 
 cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with 
 cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 
>>>
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[RBW] Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Bill Lindsay]

Flip the bike over, front wheel out. Remove anything that is bolted through the 
crown. Thread the bolt into the wedge from the bottom and tap the wedge out 
with your mallet

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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not to derail the thread too much, my Devil is now a 1x9 and I think it 
would be fantastic as a single-speed.  Going from a 3x9 to a 1x9 took at 
least one pound of weight off the bike (not that I'm a weight weenie) and 
going to a SS would take at least that, maybe closer to 2 pounds.  

This may blow your mind but i'm seriously considering doing a 650B 
conversion to my Devil! I'd thought about it before but tire availability 
didn't really support it.  Now Compass is coming out with a 650B x 47 tire 
and that might make the conversion worthwhile.  I prefer smaller wheels 
than 700c so that's another incentive.  It would be a long-term project 
because I don't have any 650B wheels at this time.  If I get the wheels, 
I'll send the frameset to the Groody brothers and have them do the canti 
braze-on work and then powdercoat it something other than the blue it came 
in.  



On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:15:55 PM UTC-5, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> my Handsome Devil has had many configurations from 3x9  to 1x9 but never a 
> single speed I would be curious how that works out
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:27:19 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> That is a great looking bike!!  Makes me want to single-speed my Handsome 
>> Devil, which is extremely close to the Simpleone in geometry and size.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-5, Hudson Doerge wrote:
>>>
>>> After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple 
>>> years I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for 
>>> some more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On 
>>> went the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my 
>>> trusty and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do 
>>> run a bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with 
>>> the Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.
>>>
>>> -Hudson in ATX
>>>
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[RBW] Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[stonehog]

Kevin - I've gone from Dureme 50s to Jack Brown 33s to Clement MSO 40s.  I just 
built a wheel set with tubeless Thunder Burt 54s for a long gravel ride. My 
favorites have been the Clements (so far - no time on the Burts yet). They are 
light, nice on road, and have done very well on dry single track. No flats, 
either, but that must be attributed mostly to luck. 

I went with wider tires for the upcoming ride mainly for better comfort. The 
Burts are a similar weight, as well, so just bonus float. I also have several 
other "faster" bikes if I need to feel lighter. 

Thoughts on lighter Hunqapillar build found here:
http://stonehog.com/2013/01/27/lighten-it-up/

Pics of Clements:
http://stonehog.com/2013/10/16/hunqlightfilmtest/

Some may say I've gone full circle if the Burts stay on for the long term. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[islaysteve]

KC, to expand on James' post above, Grand Bois Hetres have been the darlings of 
this group and others, for their smooth and seemingly fast ride.  They are not 
cheap.  This seems to be a Golden Age for 650b tires, with  new tires being 
introduced by GB and other makers.  There is a related 650b Google group that 
you might want to check out.  Another option is the Pari Moto (38), which has 
been introduce in a more reasonably price "gravel" version.  Cheers,
Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[dougP]

KC:

Apologies to your son for my assuming he was speaking from a racing 
perspective.  He could be onto something.

The Continental Tour Rides weigh in at 675 grams per their website for 42 
mm 650B.  By contrast, Compass Baby Shoe Pass are 390 grams and the Hetre 
are 412 grams.  Both are $59.  One of our Riv group rode Strada Rossa last 
weekend on the Hetres with no flats.  Compass (Jan Heine) is big on supple, 
comfy tires.  Might be something to consider if you continue to feel the 
Contis are kinda doggy.  

FWIW, I picked up a pair of 26" x 1.75" Continentals (not sure of the 
model) on sale for an old MTB for utility use.  They did feel kinda clunky 
but they were cheap.  Later I stumbled onto a pair of Schwalbe Marathon 
Supremes in 26" x 2" & those felt a whole lot lighter & cushier than the 
Contis.  

We're not normally a bunch of weight weenies here but you are spinning up 
an extra 500+ grams of tire weight over what you would with tires in the 
400 gram per tire range.  

dougP

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the reason i 
> have the cheviot with 650b 42 tires. Specifically, he was concerned with 
> the continental tour rides they put on it. Riv response is you don't go 
> fast when you get flats.  I get that, but you also don't want to be lagging 
> behind in the herd of rivs.  
>
> Haven't had a chance to even show my new bike to my son yet.  But my 
> husband seems to be riding faster than me and that's not the plan
> On Mar 29, 2015 2:16 PM, "dougP" > wrote:
>
>> "I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said 
>> they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "
>>
>> In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy don't have 
>> much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression of big 
>> tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB knobbies or 
>> beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure tires it's no 
>> surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike as-is & see 
>> how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding with people 
>> who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a special case.  
>> If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more miles in that 
>> way.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for 
>>> extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm 
>>> cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with 
>>> cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 
>>
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[RBW] Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[stonehog]

Forgot the pic of the Thunder Burts:
https://flic.kr/p/rP6PZM

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[SeanMac]

Thanks for your suggestions on how to attack my stuck stem wedge.  The 
consensus certainly seems to be that I need to attack it from the bottom of 
the head tube.  That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.  Unfortunately, 
it also means that I need to remove the front fender and [most likely] the 
front brake as well.  It is amazing how what began as a relatively simple, 
straight-forward project has become much more involved.

My plan is to purchase a Nitto Tallux stem to use on this bike, as I am 
looking to go both a bit taller and longer than my current stem.  Is it 
possible [or likely] that the stuck wedge has caused any damage to the head 
tube that will make this plan not work?  

Anyone have any experience with a threadless stem adaptor, such as this one 
sold by VO?  VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
.
  
I have contemplating using one of these and a VO threadless stem on this 
project, but think that the Tallus will work even better for me.

Again, thanks for your help.

Sean

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[stonehog]

Ann - one heaping scoop is fine. Fill water close to top and stir for 10 
seconds. Let your arm weight do the plunging - no need to push hard. Add water 
after to taste. Aeropress is an espresso maker, so it makes a strong cup if 
sipped straight. Still smoother than a machine. The biggest thing will be beans 
(please use fresh - within 7 days of roasting for best taste) and grinder. You 
want a consistent grind. If you find it tough to plunge, try courser grounds 
til you get it the way you like it. It generally takes me 20 seconds for a 
plunge, BTW. 

All of this is pure Opinion based on years of daily use. I've worn out several 
presses at this point, but it's dark up here in the winter months. 

Brian Hanson 
Seattle, WA
Daily Aeropress user since '08

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[stonehog]

Baby Shoes or Hetres. Amazing tires, and they "go Fast"!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Dan McNamara]

I did not care for the Tour Rides. They were pretty dead feeling. Switched over 
to the 650B Big Bens and was much happier. This was on the Bombadil. 

On the Cheviot I have the Soma New Express and on the Betty we have Soma 
B-Line. I prefer the B-Line although they are not as puncture resistant as the 
New Express. You can find B-Lines for decent prices.  New Express measure 36 
and the B-Line measure 38. 

Ultimately I am going to put Rock N' Roads on the Cheviot as I intend to use it 
for some trail riding. 



My .02

Dan

> On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:40 PM, KC  wrote:
> 
> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for extreme 
> speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm cheviot 650b 
> 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said 
> they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[Patrick Moore]

Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds of
light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's
even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly
puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in
goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.

I'm with you; I can't stand stiff, sluggish tires; I'd rather fix flats.
But modern sealants have squared the otherwise impossible circle.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Kellie  wrote:

> Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive experiment. I'd
> give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really familiar with your
> Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I didn't like them;
> they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB Cypress, which are
> supple and buttery smooth. Some complain of flats with them but I haven't
> had a one for over a year. Even rode a 50 mile day on some light gravel
> with them. They're now planned to reside on my new to me Saluki I'm
> building. The Cypress' also started on my Cheviot, but then I wanted more
> tread and thicker tires for grip/comfort on the dirt trails.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 2:46:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Tires change easily. Try the tires you want to try and see if you get
>> faster and/or have more flats.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 3:25:00 PM UTC-6, KC wrote:
>>>
>>> My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the reason i
>>> have the cheviot with 650b 42 tires. Specifically, he was concerned with
>>> the continental tour rides they put on it. Riv response is you don't go
>>> fast when you get flats.  I get that, but you also don't want to be lagging
>>> behind in the herd of rivs.
>>>
>>> Haven't had a chance to even show my new bike to my son yet.  But my
>>> husband seems to be riding faster than me and that's not the plan
>>> On Mar 29, 2015 2:16 PM, "dougP"  wrote:
>>>
 "I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son
 said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "

 In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy don't
 have much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression of big
 tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB knobbies
 or beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure tires it's
 no surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike as-is &
 see how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding with
 people who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a special
 case.  If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more miles in
 that way.

 dougP

 On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for
> extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind.  50cm
> cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with
> cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Mark Wilkins]

Anne: 

I've been using the inverted method with my Aeropress for some time, and really 
like it. 

http://stumptowncoffee.com/brew-guides/aeropress/

Uses one rounded scoop. 

Mark

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> On Mar 29, 2015, at 12:12, Anne Paulson  wrote:
> 
> Aeropress users: I have an aeropress, but when I use it according to
> the directions, the coffee is way strong, much stronger than the
> coffee I made with my Melitta filter. Is that just the way the coffee
> is supposed to be, or should I use half the ground coffee they say?
> The aeropress is a fussy procedure for coffee that is stronger than I
> want.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:42 AM, 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
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>> My setup: aeropress, porlex mini mill, snow peak giga power auto, ti pot, 
>> double wall ti mug, ti spork, bandana to clean things, and a sea to summit 
>> packing cell everything tucks into perfectly.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Jim Bronson]

Wow.  Just wow.  I am so very glad that you are still alive.  I would guess
that more times than not, an accident like you describe would be fatal to
the cyclist.  He left you for dead pretty much.

There's nothing I can say about this motorist that would not violate the
spirit of this email list.  I just hope this results in a long prison
sentence for him. And whatever happens there, well too bad so sad.
On Mar 27, 2015 1:27 PM, "David Spranger"  wrote:

> I was riding to work early on last Friday morning. My usual route. Nothing
> unusual at all precipitating the event. I have no memory of the event
> itself. What I know I have pieced together from eyewitness reports and
> police reports.
>
> I was traveling around ten mph up a hill on a arterial road that is
> labeled at 35mph. A Ford Winstar came up behind me moving higher than 55
> mph. Though there was a clear lane he could have moved into, he instead
> plowed through me as if I was not there. Eyewitnesses state he carried my
> body on his hood and partially embedded in his windshield approximately 90
> feet before coming to a stop and allowing my body to fall off his vehicle.
> This was directly in front of a very busy city bus stop with eyewitnesses
> that are used to seeing me every day pass this bus stop on my bicycle. He
> then changed lanes to not run me directly over as he sped away.
>
> He later reported an incident in which he said the damages to his car were
> caused by boxes falling off a truck. Of course modern forensics and
> on-the-ball police officers knew better and immediately arrested him.
>
>
> On Friday, Ma 27, 2015 at 7:17:51 AM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and
>> run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I haveve been hit several
>> times, but never H&R'd.
>>
>> Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due
>> an incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than
>> was typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's
>> common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was
>> fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the
>> damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).
>>
>> Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where
>> you're located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be
>> able to forward a book or two!
>>
>> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate
>>> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that
>>> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier
>>> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full
>>> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full
>>> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:

 David,

 I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a
 helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?

 Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal
 quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.

 Sincerely,

 Matt

 On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>
>  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs,
> hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, 
> and
> I will be home tomorrow.
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Did you escape injury?
>>
>> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but
>> as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto
>> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
>> find
>> the OP's insurance information.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat
>>> stays? Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is
>>> the bike I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my 
>>> life. I
>>> am not yet ready to give up on it.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Charlotte, NC
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[RBW] Re: Clem with drop bars

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I think that I would enjoy my Hunqapillar much more with Noodles than I do with 
it's current Bullmoose setup. I think you should give it a go.

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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I collect certain pictures of Riv's and speaking of nobby tires, the 
oblique-from-the-front photo of the Hunqapillar on the blog is one of the 
best Riv photos I've seen.  And it even uses a threaded-to-threadless 
adapter!!  





On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 6:27:36 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:
>
> Forgot the pic of the Thunder Burts: 
> https://flic.kr/p/rP6PZM 
>
> Brian Hanson 
> Seattle, WA 
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Re: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Jim Bronson]

36 unless you only ride on very smooth roads, or build rims that will take
very high spoke tension.

I never had any problems running 32h with Velocity DeepV rims, which will
take 135kgf, but every other 32h rim I've had gave me issues of some sort
or another.

I can tell you that from recent experience that a 32h with a broken spoke
gives significantly more hop than does a 36h.  In fact I rode a 36h wheel
with a broken spoke for several weeks before I realized it wasn't just out
of true.

A 40h setup would probably be even better for the rear, but you'd have to
go with a boutique rear hub, which I am not willing to do.
On Mar 27, 2015 5:09 PM, "Rod Holland"  wrote:

> Related question: 36h or 32h wheels?
>
> rod
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

[drew beckmeyer]

In the same boat here with regard to a saddle, which he told me he sent over a 
month ago. Finally the response I got was that he had to attend a funeral and 
he was not checking that email address anymorewhich is sort of frustrating. 
Sorta relieved it's not just me, because I was just about to write that 90$ off 
as gone. 

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

[Nikita R]

If nothing else works, check if the wedge is made of an aluminum alloy. If 
it is, you can dilute it with caustic soda. Only use this method as a last 
resort since it has several major drawbacks. First of all, caustic soda is 
dangerous (always work with latex gloves and protective goggles). Second, 
it will dilute paint/powder coat (but it will not corrode steel). Third, it 
will mess up any alu alloy parts that it touches (some crown race plates 
are made of alloys. For example Miche's crown race plate for needle 
bearings is made of some sort of alu alloy). Fourth, the reaction produces 
hydrogen which is explosive, so NEVER do it indoors.

I used this method to remove a stuck bottom bracket once. I also used it to 
remove a stuck wedge from Miche's expander plug. In the latter case, the 
plug was made of steel, but the expander ring that came with it was alu, so 
the method worked. BTW, that was the time when I learned that Miche's crown 
race plate for needle bearings is made of alu alloy:) I had to replace it 
after it got corroded by a few drops of caustic soda overnight.



On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:49:57 PM UTC+1, jinxed wrote:
>
> It possible the wedge is "wedged" into the thicker butted end of the 
> steerer. IF that's the case, going from the bottom of the fork will be the 
> best bet. Liquid wrench is a good idea too. Several times I've had luck 
> flipping it over, place the top nut of the HS on a block of wood, then use 
> a long heavy punch and a decent hammer or small sledge to TAP it up through 
> the steerer. Best done with a second set of hands to hold the bike steady. 
> A piece of rebar would work too. Once I broke it free of the thicker 
> steerer section it fell right out. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Jim A]

A steerer tube shim and then whichever 1 1/8" stem you want. Not a very 
elegant solution but pretty much invisible when installed. Theoretically 
could cause problems but pretty unlikely to.

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 8:20:37 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> what are they using in terms of stem? 
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
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[RBW] WTT Cardiff goodwill 11L plus saddlebag support for smaller saddlebag

[Michael Gasparino]

Hey guys I have a brand new Cardiff goodwick saddlebag. It's black with brown 
leather accents. 11L. And a brand new velo Orange vivo saddlebag support. I 
would like to trade for smaller saddlebag. Such as a tweed Nigel,xs 
saddleback,baggins,etc. I can send pics on request

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[RBW] Re: security

[Ryan Thompson]

Like you I find myself choosing not to ride my "beater" bikes and instead 
riding my Sam and Cheviot everywhere.  I usually use only my cable 
Kyrptonite lock around the frame and rear wheel when possible.  I think 
there is an issue with bike theft where I live (DC Metro) it seems to be 
people are stealing bikes left unattended on porches or cars versus bikes 
locked up in front of the corner store.  The bigger issue are thieves 
stealing lights and saddle bags which has happened to me a few times while 
the bike is parked.

Ryan

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 9:53:03 AM UTC-4, Will wrote:
>
> I need some security advice. I have a new-to-me Atlantis. It is an 
> excellent condition. Paint is 9.9/10, build is excellent. It's a real 
> looker. 
>
> My problem is that I no longer want to ride my other bikes. This, I am 
> sure, is a familiar story here. I thought my other Bobish bikes were nice. 
> I monkeyed with them to make them nice, but the Atlantis is simply much, 
> much better.
>
> So what to do?
>
> Riv recommends Pitlocks for the front wheel and seat post in conjunction 
> with an Abus cable. 
>
> What does this list do?
>
> I'm not going to leave the bike outside overnight, or in sketchy 
> situations. I will park at the library, Trader Joe's, the grocery store, 
> etc... mostly public places with sidewalk traffic. 
>
> Advice?
>
> Will
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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[Chris Chen]

Yeah, I'd say that's about right.

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:35:23 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
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> the only wrong way to do coffee outside is not to do it :-)
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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[Leslie]

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:59:41 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> I collect certain pictures of Riv's and speaking of nobby tires, the 
> oblique-from-the-front photo of the Hunqapillar on the blog is one of the 
> best Riv photos I've seen.  And it even uses a threaded-to-threadless 
> adapter!!  
>
>
>
> 
>


I liked that pic, too;   did you see the early pics as I built up my Bomba?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/6836831408/in/set-72157623199721925 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/6982957135/in/album-72157623199721925/

I might need to pull my fenders and go back to knobbies for a bit





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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[Leslie]

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:09:57 PM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:
>
> Kevin - I've gone from Dureme 50s to Jack Brown 33s to Clement MSO 40s.  I 
> just built a wheel set with tubeless Thunder Burt 54s for a long gravel 
> ride. My favorites have been the Clements (so far - no time on the Burts 
> yet). They are light, nice on road, and have done very well on dry single 
> track. No flats, either, but that must be attributed mostly to luck. 
>
> I went with wider tires for the upcoming ride mainly for better comfort. 
> The Burts are a similar weight, as well, so just bonus float. I also have 
> several other "faster" bikes if I need to feel lighter. 
>
> Thoughts on lighter Hunqapillar build found here: 
> http://stonehog.com/2013/01/27/lighten-it-up/ 
>
> Pics of Clements: 
> http://stonehog.com/2013/10/16/hunqlightfilmtest/ 
>
> Some may say I've gone full circle if the Burts stay on for the long term. 
>
> Brian Hanson 
> Seattle, WA



Must admit, I'm liking the MSO's on the Rom:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/16004557507/in/set-72157623199721925
 


 

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[RBW] Re: security

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Fine suggestions already.  I will only add that it's also about making your 
bike harder to steal than those around it.  Cables aren't tough, generally 
speaking, but they will dissuade those folks due to the extra steps to 
defeat them.  To that end, two locks are best - the main U-lock (yep - 
Krypto) through the frame to an object which cannot be defeated (know what 
a "sucker pole" is), then heavy cable to an ABUS disk lock. I know folks 
who use Sevalon (woven fishing leader wire - 270# or higher) wire passed 
through their Brooks saddle frame and crimped to make a retaining loop - 
but you can nip that stuff pretty easily with cutters. Still it means the 
thief has to have more than a hex wrench to nab that B-17.  

Also - take recent photos of your bicycle (generally not a problem for most 
of us on this list) and have serial numbers, etc. written down for 
immediate posting should it get lifted (there are some groups - like the 
one Jenny Oh put together in the SF area - which help get the word out). 
 Some folks hide a laminated card with their name/number on it in the BB 
area, inside the bar end or seat post.  So, if there's a dispute of 
ownership, you can have an officer pop the plug and check. 

I also find it helps if folks know it's your bike - maybe the librarian or 
the cashier near the exit or something like that - so if they see someone 
monkeying with it, they might think to let you know. 

best of luck and enjoy that new ride!

- Jim



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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's an awesome Bombadil!.   

I have a real love/hate relationship with knobby tires.  I love how they 
look but hate how they ride (on pavement...where 99% of my time is spent).  



On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:22:00 PM UTC-5, Leslie wrote:
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:59:41 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> I collect certain pictures of Riv's and speaking of nobby tires, the 
>> oblique-from-the-front photo of the Hunqapillar on the blog is one of the 
>> best Riv photos I've seen.  And it even uses a threaded-to-threadless 
>> adapter!!  
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
>
> I liked that pic, too;   did you see the early pics as I built up my Bomba?
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/6836831408/in/set-72157623199721925
>  
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/6982957135/in/album-72157623199721925/
>
> I might need to pull my fenders and go back to knobbies for a bit
>
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[RBW] FS: 650b Dynamo Wheel - Son 28 - Velocity Synergy - 36h - $300 plus shipping

[David Banzer]

Rethinking bike priorities, this was going to go on a Redwood 650b 
conversion, but I'm content with the original 700c for now.

650b Dynamo Wheel

Son 28 (classic version) Dynamo Hub - 36h, no skewer, silver
Velocity Synergy Rim
36 ss spokes

Wheel is a few years old, on a bike that wasn't ridden too often.
I can take photos in the morning.

$300 plus actual shipping.
Paypal Personal payment, please.

Thanks,
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[Leslie]

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 8:36:29 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> That's an awesome Bombadil!.   
>
> I have a real love/hate relationship with knobby tires.  I love how they 
> look but hate how they ride (on pavement...where 99% of my time is spent).  
>


Yeah   I'm running Rumpkins on it right now, they're good for the 
riding I do with it most of the time.  Rumpkins get along w/ fenders (but, 
I could clear the Neo's even... 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/7501897362/in/album-72157623199721925/
 
)  

The Neos were surprisingly civil on pavement for knobbies, actually
but, on a downhill run they would sing, sounded like a Jeep.

   

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Re: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Jim Bronson]

Actually, I take that back.  The first time I used 32h DeepV, I used it in
the rear with an older DT Swiss hub and after about 6 months, the drive
side flange broke at the root and two spokes started pulling through.

I guess the older hub just wasn't up to the high tension that was applied
to it.
On Mar 29, 2015 7:05 PM, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

36 unless you only ride on very smooth roads, or build rims that will take
very high spoke tension.

I never had any problems running 32h with Velocity DeepV rims, which will
take 135kgf, but every other 32h rim I've had gave me issues of some sort
or another.

I can tell you that from recent experience that a 32h with a broken spoke
gives significantly more hop than does a 36h.  In fact I rode a 36h wheel
with a broken spoke for several weeks before I realized it wasn't just out
of true.

A 40h setup would probably be even better for the rear, but you'd have to
go with a boutique rear hub, which I am not willing to do.
On Mar 27, 2015 5:09 PM, "Rod Holland"  wrote:

> Related question: 36h or 32h wheels?
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[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[David Banzer]

I have a 65cm Redwood. Riv probably wouldn't recommend it to me, but it 
rides great and planes nicely for me. For a road bike, which it is, I don't 
know if I'd want a stouter ride.
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:26:14 PM UTC-5, DSat wrote:
>
> To the riders that weigh 200 lbs or more, which Riv model are you riding?  
> I am just shy of 300, so should I consider one model over another?  I 
> assume that the wider the tires the better.
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[RBW] Re: security

[DS]

I'm a big fan of the Hiplock, i got the lite version from REI and have a 
review posted there. Easy to carry since you wear it (barely noticeable, 
though that raises questions of damage it may cause if you crash). Hard to 
cut (need an electric grinder). And its long enough to go through at least 
one wheel and the frame. Not both wheels though, unless you want to remove 
the front wheel and lock it w/ the back wheel.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

[Richard Rios]

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the response. It is definately helpful as I am hoping for the best, 
for everyone involved. I have had great experiences in the past purchasing 
items from fellow list members. I bought my A Homer Hilsen from Frank_a and he 
was awesome to deal with. I had a nice conversation with him about the frame 
and everything. So I just assumed the same of all members and pay paled the 
money to Peter with the friend / family option so he didn't have to pay fees as 
the bars were already very well priced. Again hopefully everything will work 
out for everyone involved. Clearly health and family issues are way more 
important than handlebars.  But in anything less than the most dire of 
situations a simple
refund or tracking number is only a couple of minutes of time at most. I hope I 
don't come across as in sensitive because that definately isn't my intent. 

Drew,

I feel for you as I am in the same boat. Initially he said there was a shipping 
delay due to snow storms where he lives. Then it turned into the package was 
shipped and he would send me the tracking number which never came, the next 
time I contacted him a family member was sick and he said he would get back to 
me, which has never happened. For what it is worth I totally understand any 
frustration you are feeling. I am kinda at the point of writing it off as a 
loss as well, but am remaining hopeful that everything will work out, as the 
owners bunch is a fantastic community and I would hate to think anyone is 
acting...well in a way that is not so nice.

Sincerely,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Iron Rider]

I ride an A. Homer Hilsen and I weight 240 - 250+ depending on the season. 
I use 38 mm 650B tires and I love my bike.



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[RBW] It shoud feel like spring any time now. A ride report.

[Iron Rider]

More adventures on my A. Homer Hilsen. For those who may be interested. 
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-season-starts-anew.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

[Jim Bronson]

Oh no.  Not again!

I bought a frame from Peter a few months back and it took at least a
month to get it.  It did show up eventually, but it took a lot of back
and forth.  The other folks who purchased items from him that were
advertised on the list at the same time also suffered long delays in
getting their items.  I know this because we had an off list email
thread going on it.  Eventually, everyone got their items but it took
an inordinate amount of time.

Peter, folks are expecting a reasonable turnaround on this stuff.  I
don't know what's going on and I know you said you live way out in the
sticks, but you've got to commit to getting stuff to folks as within a
reasonable period of time.

I would hate to see us have to have some sort of "buyer beware" list
around here, but you're really pushing the envelope as to what's
acceptable.  $0.02.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Richard Rios  wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Have you sent the bars or can you please provide me with an update?  It has
> been about a month and a half since I paid you. I have been trying to
> contact you and haven't heard back.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 9:41:47 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> All good, PayPal at this address with your address when u get a chance. At
>> work, cant talk bikes, haha.
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2015 12:37 PM, "Richard Rios"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> I am interested in the bars. I apologize for the post as I Don't know how
>>> to pm from my phone. Please feel free to contact me at 909 910-7424 as to
>>> where I can send PayPal payment.
>>>
>>> thank you,
>>> Richard
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