Re: [RBW] Re: STOLEN: 50cm Rambouillet (Berkeley, CA)

[Peter Adler]

If you can, try to get down to the Coliseum flea market on Tuesday - the 
fresh weekend crop of thievery often shows up there first, before filtering 
out to the weekend markets at Laney, Ashby Flea and San Jose.

Peter Adler
about a half-mile southwest of you, near West Campus Pool
Berkeley, CA/USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: STOLEN: 50cm Rambouillet (Berkeley, CA)

[Ron Mc]

make sure you contact your homeowner's insurance co. 

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:37:54 AM UTC-6, Peter Adler wrote:
>
> If you can, try to get down to the Coliseum flea market on Tuesday - the 
> fresh weekend crop of thievery often shows up there first, before filtering 
> out to the weekend markets at Laney, Ashby Flea and San Jose.
>
> Peter Adler
> about a half-mile southwest of you, near West Campus Pool
> Berkeley, CA/USA
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Re: [RBW] Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Tim Gavin]

I think all fenders do that on occasion.  Maybe you didn't hear it as much
with the plastic fenders?

Yehuda Moon uses it to his advantage, as a weapon in his war against cars.



On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:58 PM, lungimsam  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently installed H50 Honjos on the Bleriot with my Hetres, as you may
> recall from an earlier post.
>
> I have between what looks like 1-2cm clearance all around. Tightest are
> under the sidepull brakes. That's the max I can get. Tires spin fine, no
> rubbing. No rattling.
>
> But on the two commutes I did this week, I repeatedly heard pebbles and
> rocks rattling through the fenders as I rode over them.
>
> Does this indicate that the clearances are not ample?
> Do I need to go to a narrower/smaller tire?
>
> I have SKS Longboards and Hetres on my Sam bike and I rarely hear rocks
> going through, though the clearances look similar to what I have on the
> Bleriot.
>
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[RBW] FS - White Eno Wheel, Nitto r14 rear rack. WTT- Olive Medium Saddle Sack

[Trevor saxton]

Update rack is sold, boxed and ready for shipping, will post pics of wheels 
later today, have to deal with a plumbing issue...of course it's the nicest 
it's been for awhile.  

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Re: [RBW] Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Ron Mc]

my tire wiper installation (supported almost equally with the opposite 
installation in vintage photographs) even brought up an "incorrect" 
response from Jan.  
But, they eject everything except dust and water from my Honjos, including 
Big rocks and Big sticks.  I've done the math and the roadwork - there is 
no way you're going to flip these around without grossly deforming the 
fenders, because the fender clearances are tight enough, and anything that 
would deform the fenders to that extent makes the flip factor moot.  On the 
contrary, they keep that big stuff out of the fenders, along with all the 
small stuff.  
They even scrape mud before it enters the fenders.  Of course they only 
work with slick tires.  I wouldn't use these on the big clearances of my 
daughter's SKS fenders, but they function perfectly like this on my 
relatively low-clearance Honjos.  




On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:10:38 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I think all fenders do that on occasion.  Maybe you didn't hear it as much 
> with the plastic fenders?  
>
> Yehuda Moon uses it to his advantage, as a weapon in his war against cars.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:58 PM, lungimsam  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I recently installed H50 Honjos on the Bleriot with my Hetres, as you may 
>> recall from an earlier post.
>>
>> I have between what looks like 1-2cm clearance all around. Tightest are 
>> under the sidepull brakes. That's the max I can get. Tires spin fine, no 
>> rubbing. No rattling.
>>
>> But on the two commutes I did this week, I repeatedly heard pebbles and 
>> rocks rattling through the fenders as I rode over them.
>>
>> Does this indicate that the clearances are not ample?
>> Do I need to go to a narrower/smaller tire?
>>
>> I have SKS Longboards and Hetres on my Sam bike and I rarely hear rocks 
>> going through, though the clearances look similar to what I have on the 
>> Bleriot.
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[RBW] HIgh hopes on ebay

[cyclotourist]

Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell
water bottle!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578

And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767
Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!



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[RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Shoji Takahashi]

1-2cm clearance all around sounds like plenty of room. Are you using 
new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick up pebbles and 
small rocks. After using them for a while, the rocks-in-fenders have 
diminished. 



On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:58:24 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I recently installed H50 Honjos on the Bleriot with my Hetres, as you may 
> recall from an earlier post.
>
> I have between what looks like 1-2cm clearance all around. Tightest are 
> under the sidepull brakes. That's the max I can get. Tires spin fine, no 
> rubbing. No rattling.
>
> But on the two commutes I did this week, I repeatedly heard pebbles and 
> rocks rattling through the fenders as I rode over them.
>
> Does this indicate that the clearances are not ample?
> Do I need to go to a narrower/smaller tire?
>
> I have SKS Longboards and Hetres on my Sam bike and I rarely hear rocks 
> going through, though the clearances look similar to what I have on the 
> Bleriot.
>

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[RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Ron Mc]

and clearly a late model component - he's just fishing.  I did buy a single 
C-Record shift lever from him once and, believe it or not, his price was 
fair, though it was "on sale".  

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:31:10 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
> water bottle! 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>
> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup 650b x 38 vertical height tire measurement needed, please.

[Shoji Takahashi]

I have a set of Loup Loup EL on Velocity Synergy (Schwalbe SV14 innertube). 
Great tires for my riding, even poorly maintained urban roads. 

I didn't change my inflation pressure, which is 30-40psi. I eyeballed it at 
35mm with my mechanical calipers. 

Hope that helps,
Shoji

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:44:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
>
> Can anyone measure for me the vertical height measurement of your Loup 
> Loup pass tires above your rim at their minimum inflation pressure as 
> indicated on the tire's sidewall, whatever that is?
>
> So the distance the Loupys stand above the edge of the rim. I have the 
> grand Bois rims, I think 23mm wide. But I guess any rim will give me an 
> idea.
>
> I have Hetres on my fendered Bleriot but the clearance is minimal under 
> the brake calipers and fenders, and wondering how much vertical clearance I 
> will gain if I switch to the 38 Loup Loup tires.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to measure.
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Sackville Mark's ToolWrap in Olive

[Minh]

Joe, have you seen pictures of Tom's bike-cave?  It's the TARDIS of 
bike-caves!  i'm getting the impression that Tom is trying to pare things 
down, so i've been stalking his for sale posts for things like this to pop 
up!  

My wallet is thankful that Tom is a tad taller then me, otherwise i'd need 
a new house for all the bikes

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:22:43 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
>  Too many bags, Joe, too many bags.  I bought two, and use one; I also 
> use an Acorn Tri-fold on another bike.  And the tried and true oilcloth 
> burrito wraps on a couple of others.  Good that this one will find a good 
> home.
>
>  
>
>
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[RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Minh]

isn't this liberal use of the word vintage?  Is the lugged stem design old, 
i thought it was relatively recent?

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:31:10 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
> water bottle! 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>
> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>
>
>
> -- 
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> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[lungimsam]

Couple hundred miles I would guess on these Hetres. I thought about that too.

Though I have the 1cm clearance fender to tire, the stay eyelet nuts are still 
only 2-3 mm from tire. The lock washer and flat washer on them take up about a 
mm of space I would guess.

Are they necessary since the nut has a rough surface to its integrated washer?

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[Garth]

LoL 

Every theory of diet , in the end, negates itself by it's theoretical 
nature , always subject to change .   Anything that is changeable , is not 
Truth .  For Truth to be Truth, it must be Absolute and without 
opposition.   And I know of only One . .  . . and a Great One at that :)
And EveryOne inherently knows it without thought of it , as EveryOne IS it .




On Sunday, November 2, 2014 3:24:52 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> First off, this isn't necessarily Riv-related, or even bike-related 
> technically, but it is Grant-related. If this falls outside the parameters 
> of this list, let me know, and Jim feel free to delete. 
>
> I've been following Grant's new blog for his new book and am genuinely 
> interested in the diet/exercise viewpoint that he discusses and follows. 
> I guess my questions are (and answers probably should be offlist I guess):
> Anyone follow a similar diet?
> Your general experiences?
> Your reasons for adopting this diet, and your experience in the transition 
> period?
> Difficulties?
> What would you bring on a lengthy bike ride (bike-related!) or overnight?
> Thanks,
> David
> Chicago
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[RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Ron Mc]

to show you how much ebay endorses fraud by their sellers, there is no 
means to report this item.  If you go down every option for reporting an 
item, there is no place to say that the seller is misrepresenting what the 
item actually is  
No question, this is a current production part made to order for Grant 
Petersen and Rivendell, and and nothing like it has ever existed as a 
vintage, venerable or out-of-production Nitto component.  

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:11:07 AM UTC-6, Minh wrote:
>
> isn't this liberal use of the word vintage?  Is the lugged stem design 
> old, i thought it was relatively recent?
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:31:10 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
>> water bottle! 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>>
>> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
>> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> David
>>
>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
>>
>>
>>  

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[RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Anton Tutter]

Agreed. I've gone so far as to complain to eBay about this. Also, there's 
no way to block a seller's listings from appearing in search results.  
pb*bikes would be the very first seller I would block, for their insulting 
prices.  When I do a search, I can't stand seeing the same sellers from 
whom I would never buy anything. I've complained about this.  There's got 
to be a back end to activating this feature, and I'm willing to bet eBay 
just doesn't enable it for the end user.

Anton



On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:41:31 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> to show you how much ebay endorses fraud by their sellers, there is no 
> means to report this item.  If you go down every option for reporting an 
> item, there is no place to say that the seller is misrepresenting what the 
> item actually is  
> No question, this is a current production part made to order for Grant 
> Petersen and Rivendell, and and nothing like it has ever existed as a 
> vintage, venerable or out-of-production Nitto component.  
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:11:07 AM UTC-6, Minh wrote:
>>
>> isn't this liberal use of the word vintage?  Is the lugged stem design 
>> old, i thought it was relatively recent?
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:31:10 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
>>> water bottle! 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>>>
>>> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
>>> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>>
>>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>>
>>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  

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Re: [RBW] WTB Medium Sackville Shopsack Bag in Olive

[Kendallspower]

Great bag! Looking for another olive one now. Thank you.

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 5:22:02 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
>
>  I have an Olive Medium Shopsack, like new. $40 shipped?
>
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 3:11 PM, "Kendallspower"  > wrote:
>
>   That would be exellent. Thank you.
>
> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:52:32 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: 
>>
>>  I think I have one; will check tonight.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Kendallspower
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 03, 2014 11:38 AM
>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [RBW] WTB Medium Sackville Shopsack Bag in Olive
>>
>>  
>>  
>> ... my wifes Betty is almost done and Riv is out of stock.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Eric Norris]

FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s rear 
tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) snagged both of 
these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m holding in a 
gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; the other was embedded 
in the tire about 20 miles later but somehow didn’t damage the tube.

https://flic.kr/p/q2b95K  

https://flic.kr/p/pZ5DX5  

Jan Heine reports excellent flat resistance with Grand Bois tires; he should 
come ride the mean streets of Sacramento County sometime. 

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> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Shoji Takahashi  
> wrote:
> 
> Are you using new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick up 
> pebbles and small rocks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Ron Mc]

heavy gauge wire is the second-worst hazard on the road - the only thing 
worse is a y-shaped stick that will plant itself firm and impale your tire 
as you roll over it.  
Both of these are reasons to carry fold-up spares.  

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:09:26 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s 
> rear tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) snagged 
> both of these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m 
> holding in a gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; the 
> other was embedded in the tire about 20 miles later but somehow didn’t 
> damage the tube.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/q2b95K 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/pZ5DX5 
>
> Jan Heine reports excellent flat resistance with Grand Bois tires; he 
> should come ride the mean streets of Sacramento County sometime. 
>
> —Eric N
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>
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Shoji Takahashi  > wrote:
>
> Are you using new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick 
> up pebbles and small rocks.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Patrick Moore]

1 cm is plenty of space. 2 cm is a gap! If you have 1 cm under your front
caliper, you are fine.

Patrick "using tire savers since 1996" Moore

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:58 PM, lungimsam  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently installed H50 Honjos on the Bleriot with my Hetres, as you may
> recall from an earlier post.
>
> I have between what looks like 1-2cm clearance all around. Tightest are
> under the sidepull brakes. That's the max I can get. Tires spin fine, no
> rubbing. No rattling.
>
> But on the two commutes I did this week, I repeatedly heard pebbles and
> rocks rattling through the fenders as I rode over them.
>
> Does this indicate that the clearances are not ample?
> Do I need to go to a narrower/smaller tire?
>
> I have SKS Longboards and Hetres on my Sam bike and I rarely hear rocks
> going through, though the clearances look similar to what I have on the
> Bleriot.
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Re: [RBW] HIgh hopes on ebay

[Jim Bronson]

We've had several run ins with commenting on this same seller's antics and
he has yet to change his stripes.  It must be working for him.  I don't
know if it's possible to put sellers on ignore on eBay but I'd like to if
it were possible.
On Nov 11, 2014 8:31 AM, "cyclotourist"  wrote:

> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell
> water bottle!
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>
> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767
> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup 650b x 38 vertical height tire measurement needed, please.

[lungimsam]

Thanks Shoji. I appreciate it.

Another lister reported 35.5 mm.

My Hetres at 55psi are about 36mm tall from the rim. So the height is not much 
different which surprises me. I would have thought the smaller tire would have 
less height so maybe I need to use my Cyprii for max clearance.

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[RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[hsmitham]

Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do a 
search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his tactic 
must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's hard to 
conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a Riv to be 
so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site devoted to 
Ebay BS?

~Hugh 

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
> water bottle! 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>
> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>
>
>
> -- 
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> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[lungimsam]

I rechecked and looks like maybe 1cm tops under calipers. Hard to tell for sure 
as too tight to see under there.
A few 2-5mm from stay eyelet bolts to tires, depends on which fender.
About 1.5 at fender ends from tire to inside of fender.

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[cyclotourist]

Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for sale,
and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the
feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I
guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  wrote:

> Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do a
> search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his tactic
> must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's hard to
> conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a Riv to be
> so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site devoted to
> Ebay BS?
>
> ~Hugh
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell
>> water bottle!
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>>
>> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767
>> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> David
>>
>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
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[RBW] Brisk November Ride

[Deacon Patrick]

We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up and 
headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps Rampart 
Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own mortality on the 
hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the snow (either being 
from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 months). So I wimped out 
and turned around.

All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet to sort 
out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is minimalist. 
But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still pink and still 
wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.

Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado hills. 
(There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/

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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado]

I t wasn't quite as cold here.It was a balmy 9' at our house.I was 
wondering if you'd go out.
I bought a pair of these I took them on a hike at 15' and my feet were  
fine. Haven't tried them on the bike yet.
Something to try:
http://foxwear.net/store/hats-socks/power-stretch-socks/

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:25:52 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up 
> and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps 
> Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own 
> mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the 
> snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 
> months). So I wimped out and turned around.
>
> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet to 
> sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is 
> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still 
> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>
> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado 
> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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>  
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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Jon. I wore boiled wool socks, and won't do synthetic. The issue 
was the winds on the descent. 30+ mph. And my over shoes, which are thin 
leather running minimalist shoes with holes for breathability. The answer 
is mukluks, which I tried last year, but they rotted out within a month due 
to the freeze/thaw cycle. I have a moccasins system that works, but not as 
well as the mukluks, though the moccasins don't rot out. Lots more to tell 
about what doesn't work and why. But still in search of mukluks that don't 
rot out (they are designed to be highly breathable, but do not handle temps 
above 20˚F well, and are ideal for 0 or less.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:50:49 AM UTC-7, Jon in the foothills of 
Central Colorado wrote:
>
> I t wasn't quite as cold here.It was a balmy 9' at our house.I was 
> wondering if you'd go out.
> I bought a pair of these I took them on a hike at 15' and my feet were  
> fine. Haven't tried them on the bike yet.
> Something to try:
> http://foxwear.net/store/hats-socks/power-stretch-socks/
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:25:52 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up 
>> and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps 
>> Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own 
>> mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the 
>> snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 
>> months). So I wimped out and turned around.
>>
>> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet 
>> to sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is 
>> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still 
>> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>>
>> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado 
>> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>  
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Anton Tutter]

It really is truly amazing what he gets for his stuff when you look at his 
sold items.  $75 for NOS Simplex pulleys??!! They're not even the fancy 
bearing version.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simplex-Vintage-bicycle-Derailleur-Pulleys-/281326407472?pt=US_Derailleurs_Rear&hash=item41805c4f30&nma=true&si=w76z2dQWkZ8tR3W%252BVQ8Whd01vzA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I think I had box of these at some point. Dang, I could have retired!!!

Anton


On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:45:10 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for sale, 
> and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the 
> feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I 
> guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  > wrote:
>
>> Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do a 
>> search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his tactic 
>> must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's hard to 
>> conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a Riv to be 
>> so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site devoted to 
>> Ebay BS?
>>
>> ~Hugh 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
>>> water bottle! 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>>>
>>> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
>>> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>>
>>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Ron Mc]

the formula is simple - he buys parts in auction on ebay and re-sells them 
in a BIN store at double his purchase price (or more).  In many cases, he 
is simply fishing for idiots, sometimes people who don't know better, other 
times, impatient people who won't wait for a better deal.  

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:45:10 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for sale, 
> and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the 
> feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I 
> guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  > wrote:
>
>> Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do a 
>> search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his tactic 
>> must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's hard to 
>> conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a Riv to be 
>> so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site devoted to 
>> Ebay BS?
>>
>> ~Hugh 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell 
>>> water bottle! 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>>>
>>> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
>>> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>>
>>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>>
>>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup 650b x 38 vertical height tire measurement needed, please.

[Chris Chen]

Seriously one-off questions just create work for people and keep the data
from getting out. There's a list here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AquGGB-a4RW8dDdVU1hhTG9MQXotb1d0UU91dXB6Y2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM, lungimsam  wrote:

> Thanks Shoji. I appreciate it.
>
> Another lister reported 35.5 mm.
>
> My Hetres at 55psi are about 36mm tall from the rim. So the height is not
> much different which surprises me. I would have thought the smaller tire
> would have less height so maybe I need to use my Cyprii for max clearance.
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil final build--for now.

[hsmitham]

Trevor,

This past Summer I recall seeing your frame hanging way in the back at Riv 
HQ, a Riv employee took me back to show me your frame exclaiming how 
unusual and awesome the mat finish was. Seeing it built is awesome! I tried 
the "M" bars and didn't like them at all. I just installed Albatross bars 
on my Atlantis and what a difference it makes! Completely different bike in 
all the good ways. Enjoy hat ride.

Patrick, FWIW I have an Albastache bar looking for a new home. PM me if 
your interested?

~Hugh
 Los Angeles, CA  

On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:09:25 PM UTC-8, Trevor saxton wrote:
>
> After realizing that I do not like the moustache handlebars, I changed up 
> my Bombadil to what will be its final build for now.  Albatross bars, full 
> micro shift derailleurs and shifters, triple crankm and a Brooks b67 added. 
>
> Forgot to bring my camera on the test ride, so only a shot in my partially 
> finished basement, 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/15574833968/
>
> I may go back to a wide double...actually a 1x set up appeals too. 
>
> Bombadil rides great with the Albatross barsperfect for shopping, will 
> be looking to take it out longer tomorrow perhaps more pics. 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Goshen Peter]

People, ebay is an online auction house. The rules of the Auction house are
they present the product, you decide how much you want to pay. Now blatant
mis-representation is illegal and immoral but listing something for double
what its worth isnt either of those things. Why is a Rothko worth $40
million? because thats what someone paid for it.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> the formula is simple - he buys parts in auction on ebay and re-sells them
> in a BIN store at double his purchase price (or more).  In many cases, he
> is simply fishing for idiots, sometimes people who don't know better, other
> times, impatient people who won't wait for a better deal.
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:45:10 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for sale,
>> and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the
>> feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I
>> guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do a
>>> search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his tactic
>>> must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's hard to
>>> conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a Riv to be
>>> so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site devoted to
>>> Ebay BS?
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:

 Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100
 Rivendell water bottle!
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578

 And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767
 Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!



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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Anton Tutter]

Peter, you are correct, and I'm not aware that anyone is accusing him of 
violating any rules or principles of honesty.  But by setting prices to 
obscenely high sums, and actually waiting for someone desperate enough to 
pay them, he's effectively driving the entire market up.

I mentioned that I'd love to block him from my search results, and it's 
because I'm not desperate enough to ever pay his prices and his listings 
just end up being unwanted noise that I need to mentally filter out of my 
search results since eBay won't let me filter them out informatically. 

Anton



On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:49:58 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
>
> People, ebay is an online auction house. The rules of the Auction house 
> are they present the product, you decide how much you want to pay. Now 
> blatant mis-representation is illegal and immoral but listing something for 
> double what its worth isnt either of those things. Why is a Rothko worth 
> $40 million? because thats what someone paid for it.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ron Mc > 
> wrote:
>
>> the formula is simple - he buys parts in auction on ebay and re-sells 
>> them in a BIN store at double his purchase price (or more).  In many cases, 
>> he is simply fishing for idiots, sometimes people who don't know better, 
>> other times, impatient people who won't wait for a better deal.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:45:10 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for 
>>> sale, and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the 
>>> feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I 
>>> guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
>>>
 Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do 
 a search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his 
 tactic must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's 
 hard to conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a 
 Riv to be so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site 
 devoted to Ebay BS?

 ~Hugh 


 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
>
> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 
> Rivendell water bottle! 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>
> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>
>
>
> -- 
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> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
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Re: [RBW] Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Goshen Peter]

With honjos hetres and a Rivendell if there isnt rubbing you are all good,
at last thats how i rode the AHH, very tight clearances. I think as the
fenders got more and more rock hits they quieted down, now i almost never
hear them. Not sure if thats the tires wearing in or the fenders are now
nice and grimy and dont give that metallic ping ping when rocks do get up
there.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM, lungimsam  wrote:

> I rechecked and looks like maybe 1cm tops under calipers. Hard to tell for
> sure as too tight to see under there.
> A few 2-5mm from stay eyelet bolts to tires, depends on which fender.
> About 1.5 at fender ends from tire to inside of fender.
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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Goshen Peter]

Oh, i hear you. When see outrageous prices i know it is PB bikes or another
seller or two that deals in overpriced "vintage" items. I would think from
a business model Ebay would never let you filter out sellers, that would
hurt their commission on said sales and the bottom line, which is all that
really matters for ebay and thier quasi-legal offshore "bank" known as
paypal. I dont know for sure that these items drive everything up, I mean i
see his crap hang out for months on ebay so its not like people are just
falling over themselves to buy it. When i list stuff i list it at real
prices and it sells in a day or two, my time is worth more than hoping
someone comes along and pays an inflated price, but i am not running a
business.  Yeah its scummy to take advantage of people who dont know any
better but its capitalism, for better or worse.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Anton Tutter  wrote:

> Peter, you are correct, and I'm not aware that anyone is accusing him of
> violating any rules or principles of honesty.  But by setting prices to
> obscenely high sums, and actually waiting for someone desperate enough to
> pay them, he's effectively driving the entire market up.
>
> I mentioned that I'd love to block him from my search results, and it's
> because I'm not desperate enough to ever pay his prices and his listings
> just end up being unwanted noise that I need to mentally filter out of my
> search results since eBay won't let me filter them out informatically.
>
> Anton
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:49:58 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
>>
>> People, ebay is an online auction house. The rules of the Auction house
>> are they present the product, you decide how much you want to pay. Now
>> blatant mis-representation is illegal and immoral but listing something for
>> double what its worth isnt either of those things. Why is a Rothko worth
>> $40 million? because thats what someone paid for it.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> the formula is simple - he buys parts in auction on ebay and re-sells
>>> them in a BIN store at double his purchase price (or more).  In many cases,
>>> he is simply fishing for idiots, sometimes people who don't know better,
>>> other times, impatient people who won't wait for a better deal.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:45:10 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:

 Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for
 sale, and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the
 feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I
 guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.

 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  wrote:

> Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do
> a search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his
> tactic must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's
> hard to conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a
> Riv to be so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site
> devoted to Ebay BS?
>
> ~Hugh
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100
>> Rivendell water bottle!
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578
>>
>> And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767
>> Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!
>>
>>
>>
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>> David
>>
>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup 650b x 38 vertical height tire measurement needed, please.

[Anton Tutter]

Thanks for reminding me about that list-- that's a great resource! But the 
650B section could use some updating... none of the recent Compass 
offerings are in there.

The other thing is that not all people will measure using the same 
methodology, and tire height especially is a tricky one whose measurement 
can be dependent on a lot of variables.

I'll plug in some data tonight on the Compass Babyshoe extra lights.



On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:46:20 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Seriously one-off questions just create work for people and keep the data 
> from getting out. There's a list here:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AquGGB-a4RW8dDdVU1hhTG9MQXotb1d0UU91dXB6Y2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM, lungimsam  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Shoji. I appreciate it.
>>
>> Another lister reported 35.5 mm.
>>
>> My Hetres at 55psi are about 36mm tall from the rim. So the height is not 
>> much different which surprises me. I would have thought the smaller tire 
>> would have less height so maybe I need to use my Cyprii for max clearance.
>>
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Re: [RBW] HIgh hopes on ebay

[Eric Norris]

Not sure I agree with this. In the real estate world, for instance, prices are 
set by “comps,” which are homes that have actually sold. If someone on my block 
put his/her home on the market for ten times the typical price, it wouldn’t 
budge prices for the other homes one bit … until it sells for that price.

At that point, it would tend to raise the potential price of the other similar 
homes.

If Mr. High Priced eBay Guy is actually *selling* things at high prices, it 
will encourage others to raise the prices of their items (or it will encourage 
buyers to bid more so they don’t get outbid). If he’s just posting his items at 
high prices while others keep selling the same items at lower prices, it 
doesn’t seem to me that prices overall would go up.

eBay is an free marketplace where people pay what they want to (willing 
seller/willing buyer). Nobody is holding a gun to anybody’s head to make them 
pay too much. As a previous poster to this thread suggested, there are many 
reasons why people pay high prices for something—think about this the next time 
you buy a single, chilled bottle of soda at the checkout counter for the same 
price as an unchilled sixpack a few steps away in the store.

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> On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
> 
> by setting prices to obscenely high sums, and actually waiting for someone 
> desperate enough to pay them, he's effectively driving the entire market up

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

>
> Here is a link to my flickr page with some better pics.   $1700 plus 
> shipping or open to trades.


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[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

[Evan Baird]

Spotted these on a Bilenky tandem at the Philly Expo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/therubbishbin/15566528697/



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Re: [RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/11/2014 07:04 PM, Evan Baird wrote:




Spotted these on a Bilenky tandem at the Philly Expo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/therubbishbin/15566528697/







Yes, but what are they?

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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Philip Williamson]

Can you keep the mukluks in the freezer? 
Like in a 'footwear drawer?'

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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! To freeze dry them, I presume? Even using the outside deep freezer, I 
can just imagine the condescending look of disgust and vile judgement on my 
wife's face. Grin.

My current plan is to try a vapor barrier (plastic baggie) next to my foot 
with the same set up I used today and see where that gets me. 

With abandon,
Patrick



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> Like in a 'footwear drawer?'
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[cyclotourist]

I too risked the wet and the cold today. Went out for lunch with my S.O.,
riding Quickbeam and Glorius respectively. Burgers and fries at the Tartan
(45th anniversary year for them), followed by a matinee showing of *Fury (*two
thumbs up, although not a perfect film*)*, then rush to pick up the kids at
school for the ride home.

Only pic from all that:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15149969103/

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Ha! To freeze dry them, I presume? Even using the outside deep freezer, I
> can just imagine the condescending look of disgust and vile judgement on my
> wife's face. Grin.
>
> My current plan is to try a vapor barrier (plastic baggie) next to my foot
> with the same set up I used today and see where that gets me.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:18:37 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Can you keep the mukluks in the freezer?
>> Like in a 'footwear drawer?'
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

I know all is well in the world when Deacon P is riding the Mammoth in the 
snow. 

--Smitty


On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up 
> and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps 
> Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own 
> mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the 
> snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 
> months). So I wimped out and turned around.
>
> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet to 
> sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is 
> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still 
> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>
> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado 
> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Deacon Patrick]

Smitty, Thanks! I can't help but wonder, however, how you reassure yourself 
all is right with the world the other 6 months? Grin.

David, date afternoon in the rain sounds wonderful! And your wife's 
Glorious is ... glorious!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:50:11 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> I know all is well in the world when Deacon P is riding the Mammoth in the 
> snow. 
>
> --Smitty
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up 
>> and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps 
>> Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own 
>> mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the 
>> snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 
>> months). So I wimped out and turned around.
>>
>> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet 
>> to sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is 
>> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still 
>> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>>
>> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado 
>> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[Paul Brodek]

So I kinda know pb*bikes, we talked once, and I've seen his postings on 
various forums. I'm familiar with his operation and the ill-will he seems 
to generate. He hasn't appointed me as his defender, and I'm not 
volunteering for that roll, but I will present another side of the coin.

If you search his completed auctions and check his feedback, you will find 
there are indeed quite a lot of buyers happy to pay his prices, and happy 
with the value they receive. If one sleeps better thinking these happy 
buyers are suckers or fools, so be it. Some of them may be. But the reality 
is there are quite a few well-heeled collectors who place a premium on 
their time, and would rather pay $500 for an NOS derailleur to finish off 
their $15k Herse/Cinelli/whatever than spend hours on ebay trying to find a 
clean-but-not-NOS one for less. I have customers with $50k monthly budgets 
for their hobbies, and they don't blink plunking down their Amex Centurion 
card for $40k worth of Leica, if Leica is what they want that month. You 
need to charge at least $250k/yr to get an Amex Centurion card, so we're 
talking big spenders. One guy bought a new Corvette last year with his 
Centurion card---he wanted one, and he also wanted to see if the charge 
would go through. It did.

As for sourcing, pb*bikes spends a lot of time sourcing this stuff from all 
over the world. Working the phones, traveling to check forgotten warehouse 
lots. He's got to grade, sort and photograph his inventory, handle all the 
auctions and fulfillment. I think he might have an employee now, so he's 
got a salary to meet as well. It's an interesting business model, he does 
it well and seems to enjoy it, but it doesn't look to me like an easy way 
to make a buck.

And yes, he is either directly or indirectly contributing to increasing 
prices for vintage bicycle stuff. There is a finite amount of vintage 
equipment on the planet, and as the deep pockets get the bug, prices go up. 
Doesn't matter whether you blame the sellers or the buyers, it happens. You 
either belly up to the bar and pay a premium, or you live without. Vintage 
guitars, vintage audio, vintage Zippo lighters, vintage Levi's jeans, 
vintage watches, vintage fly rods, vintage tons o' stuff---if people like 
it and collect it, usually prices rise.

I've never bought a single item from him, don't reckon I ever will. I don't 
care about NOS, and even if I did, I don't have that kind of budget. But I 
don't think the majority of his customers are ignorant or idiots, and his 
business model doesn't upset me.

As for filtering him out of your ebay search results, that's not hard to do 
indirectly. You can input a price range on a search. Whatever part you're 
looking for, set the high end of the range to whatever you think is 
unreasonable. Then you won't see anything that'll upset you.   

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:08:27 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
> It really is truly amazing what he gets for his stuff when you look at his 
> sold items.  $75 for NOS Simplex pulleys??!! They're not even the fancy 
> bearing version.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simplex-Vintage-bicycle-Derailleur-Pulleys-/281326407472?pt=US_Derailleurs_Rear&hash=item41805c4f30&nma=true&si=w76z2dQWkZ8tR3W%252BVQ8Whd01vzA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
>
> I think I had box of these at some point. Dang, I could have retired!!!
>
> Anton
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:45:10 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for sale, 
>> and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the 
>> feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I 
>> guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do a 
>>> search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his tactic 
>>> must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's hard to 
>>> conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a Riv to be 
>>> so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site devoted to 
>>> Ebay BS?
>>>
>>> ~Hugh 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:

 Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 
 Rivendell water bottle! 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/281339963578

 And this one is a deal with handlebars thrown in the mix: 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/271624744767 
 Who  can say no to such a once in a lifetime opportunity!?!?!



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[Grant Petersen]

I started the blog mostly because it's an author's respo to assist the pub
in selling the books. It's  not like--now I wrote it, now you sell it.
Not wanting to rewrite every entry, I starting doing stuff that i don't do
in the book--like photo food. It's easy, I do it at home as I'm making the
stuff.

There IS an entry titled Recalibrate Your Taste Buds (or something like
that) that deals with being able to eat cheaply and health-ily...and
another one titled Viva Canned Fish, in which I disclose that I love the
stuff. I eat low on the foodsnob pole (except for roquefort), and canned
fish is right there on the bottom.

But the book doesn't belabor that. It's mostly other stuff.
Anybody can look for free at eatbacondontjog.com. It's light reading, and
some of those platesfulla food are gorgeous.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> Based on the EBDJ blog, the diet consisits of: Canned fish, eggs, coconut
> products, ghee, kale and blue cheese. That combo would help most anyone
> lose weight..
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[hsmitham]

Eric,

I don't buy Jan's Hetre's flat resistance. He can come ride em in LA and see 
how he fairs. I know, I know others swear by them. It must just be my bad luck.

Hugh
Los Angeles, CA 


On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09:26 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
> FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s rear 
> tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) snagged both of 
> these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m holding in a 
> gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; the other was 
> embedded in the tire about 20 miles later but somehow didn’t damage the tube.
> 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/q2b95K 
> 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/pZ5DX5 
> 
> 
> Jan Heine reports excellent flat resistance with Grand Bois tires; he should 
> come ride the mean streets of Sacramento County sometime. 
> 
> 
> —Eric N
> campyo...@me.com
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> www.wheelsnorth.org
> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Shoji Takahashi  wrote:
> 
> Are you using new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick up 
> pebbles and small rocks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[cyclotourist]

It's a heck of a business model, and probably something they love doing.
Separating fools from their money that is. But I don't see how a *buyer*
would not take 30 seconds and find a new Nitto stem for half of what pb is
selling used for. If s/he is able to take their money, all hail pb!

I much prefer Pro's Closet out of CO: They offer excellent product, start a
low price, no reserve auction, and sell it at what the market determines.
They've established quite the reputation for quality.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:

> So I kinda know pb*bikes, we talked once, and I've seen his postings on
> various forums. I'm familiar with his operation and the ill-will he seems
> to generate. He hasn't appointed me as his defender, and I'm not
> volunteering for that roll, but I will present another side of the coin.
>
> If you search his completed auctions and check his feedback, you will find
> there are indeed quite a lot of buyers happy to pay his prices, and happy
> with the value they receive. If one sleeps better thinking these happy
> buyers are suckers or fools, so be it. Some of them may be. But the reality
> is there are quite a few well-heeled collectors who place a premium on
> their time, and would rather pay $500 for an NOS derailleur to finish off
> their $15k Herse/Cinelli/whatever than spend hours on ebay trying to find a
> clean-but-not-NOS one for less. I have customers with $50k monthly budgets
> for their hobbies, and they don't blink plunking down their Amex Centurion
> card for $40k worth of Leica, if Leica is what they want that month. You
> need to charge at least $250k/yr to get an Amex Centurion card, so we're
> talking big spenders. One guy bought a new Corvette last year with his
> Centurion card---he wanted one, and he also wanted to see if the charge
> would go through. It did.
>
> As for sourcing, pb*bikes spends a lot of time sourcing this stuff from
> all over the world. Working the phones, traveling to check forgotten
> warehouse lots. He's got to grade, sort and photograph his inventory,
> handle all the auctions and fulfillment. I think he might have an employee
> now, so he's got a salary to meet as well. It's an interesting business
> model, he does it well and seems to enjoy it, but it doesn't look to me
> like an easy way to make a buck.
>
> And yes, he is either directly or indirectly contributing to increasing
> prices for vintage bicycle stuff. There is a finite amount of vintage
> equipment on the planet, and as the deep pockets get the bug, prices go up.
> Doesn't matter whether you blame the sellers or the buyers, it happens. You
> either belly up to the bar and pay a premium, or you live without. Vintage
> guitars, vintage audio, vintage Zippo lighters, vintage Levi's jeans,
> vintage watches, vintage fly rods, vintage tons o' stuff---if people like
> it and collect it, usually prices rise.
>
> I've never bought a single item from him, don't reckon I ever will. I
> don't care about NOS, and even if I did, I don't have that kind of budget.
> But I don't think the majority of his customers are ignorant or idiots, and
> his business model doesn't upset me.
>
> As for filtering him out of your ebay search results, that's not hard to
> do indirectly. You can input a price range on a search. Whatever part
> you're looking for, set the high end of the range to whatever you think is
> unreasonable. Then you won't see anything that'll upset you.
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:08:27 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:
>>
>> It really is truly amazing what he gets for his stuff when you look at
>> his sold items.  $75 for NOS Simplex pulleys??!! They're not even the fancy
>> bearing version.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simplex-Vintage-bicycle-Derailleur-Pulleys-/
>> 281326407472?pt=US_Derailleurs_Rear&hash=item41805c4f30&nma=true&si=
>> w76z2dQWkZ8tR3W%252BVQ8Whd01vzA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=
>> p2047675.l2557
>>
>> I think I had box of these at some point. Dang, I could have retired!!!
>>
>> Anton
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:45:10 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for
>>> sale, and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the
>>> feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I
>>> guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:19 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
>>>
 Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do
 a search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his
 tactic must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's
 hard to conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a
 Riv to be so gullible. Perhaps there's a blog or consumer watch dog site
 devoted to Ebay BS?

 ~Hugh


 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:31:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
 

Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh hopes on ebay

[John L]

I brought my RB-1 from Pro's Closet for $400, a great purchase.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[cyclotourist]

I was joshin' about the rain and the cold. 72F and never going to rain
again.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Smitty, Thanks! I can't help but wonder, however, how you reassure
> yourself all is right with the world the other 6 months? Grin.
>
> David, date afternoon in the rain sounds wonderful! And your wife's
> Glorious is ... glorious!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:50:11 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> I know all is well in the world when Deacon P is riding the Mammoth in
>> the snow.
>>
>> --Smitty
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled
>>> up and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or
>>> perhaps Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my
>>> own mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in
>>> the snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last
>>> 6 months). So I wimped out and turned around.
>>>
>>> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet
>>> to sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is
>>> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still
>>> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>>>
>>> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado
>>> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

[Jim Bronson]

650B tandem shorn with Compass Babyshoe Pass Ultralight??



On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Evan Baird  wrote:

>
> 
> Spotted these on a Bilenky tandem at the Philly Expo.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/therubbishbin/15566528697/
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Deacon Patrick]

Ahhh. I forgot you live in the desert edition of Narnia. How's the Sandy 
Witch? Does she turn anyone opposing her into snow sculptures? Sardonic 
grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:26:12 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I was joshin' about the rain and the cold. 72F and never going to rain 
> again.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Smitty, Thanks! I can't help but wonder, however, how you reassure 
>> yourself all is right with the world the other 6 months? Grin.
>>
>> David, date afternoon in the rain sounds wonderful! And your wife's 
>> Glorious is ... glorious!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:50:11 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>> I know all is well in the world when Deacon P is riding the Mammoth in 
>>> the snow. 
>>>
>>> --Smitty
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled 
 up and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or 
 perhaps Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my 
 own mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in 
 the snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 
 6 months). So I wimped out and turned around.

 All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet 
 to sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is 
 minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still 
 pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.

 Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado 
 hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Jim Bronson]

do you have more pics of your wife's Glorius?

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:33 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I too risked the wet and the cold today. Went out for lunch with my S.O.,
> riding Quickbeam and Glorius respectively. Burgers and fries at the Tartan
> (45th anniversary year for them), followed by a matinee showing of Fury (two
> thumbs up, although not a perfect film), then rush to pick up the kids at
> school for the ride home.
>
> Only pic from all that:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15149969103/
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>
>> Ha! To freeze dry them, I presume? Even using the outside deep freezer, I
>> can just imagine the condescending look of disgust and vile judgement on my
>> wife's face. Grin.
>>
>> My current plan is to try a vapor barrier (plastic baggie) next to my foot
>> with the same set up I used today and see where that gets me.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:18:37 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you keep the mukluks in the freezer?
>>> Like in a 'footwear drawer?'
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Eric Norris]

I’ve been to Seattle and ridden there. The roads don’t *seem* to be magically 
free of debris, but that’s the only way to explain Jan’s run of good luck. The 
GBs are nice tires—I really like them—but in my experience they are just as 
prone to flatting as anything else out there. Maybe more.

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> On Nov 11, 2014, at 7:14 PM, hsmitham  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> I don't buy Jan's Hetre's flat resistance. He can come ride em in LA and see 
> how he fairs. I know, I know others swear by them. It must just be my bad 
> luck.
> 
> Hugh
> Los Angeles, CA 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09:26 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>> FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s rear 
>> tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) snagged both 
>> of these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m holding in 
>> a gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; the other was 
>> embedded in the tire about 20 miles later but somehow didn’t damage the tube.
>> 
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/q2b95K 
>> 
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/pZ5DX5 
>> 
>> 
>> Jan Heine reports excellent flat resistance with Grand Bois tires; he should 
>> come ride the mean streets of Sacramento County sometime. 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Shoji Takahashi > > wrote:
>> 
>> Are you using new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick up 
>> pebbles and small rocks.
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Re: [RBW] Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[David Hays]

Peter,
You’re running Honjos and Hetres on the Homer(it does have a ring to it doesn’t 
it) and I wondered are they the hammered Honjos and which model?
Thanks.
David


> On Nov 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Goshen Peter  wrote:
> 
> With honjos hetres and a Rivendell if there isnt rubbing you are all good, at 
> last thats how i rode the AHH, very tight clearances. I think as the fenders 
> got more and more rock hits they quieted down, now i almost never hear them. 
> Not sure if thats the tires wearing in or the fenders are now nice and grimy 
> and dont give that metallic ping ping when rocks do get up there. 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM, lungimsam  > wrote:
> I rechecked and looks like maybe 1cm tops under calipers. Hard to tell for 
> sure as too tight to see under there.
> A few 2-5mm from stay eyelet bolts to tires, depends on which fender.
> About 1.5 at fender ends from tire to inside of fender.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[cyclotourist]

Well seeing as you asked...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157604628485425

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> do you have more pics of your wife's Glorius?
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:33 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > I too risked the wet and the cold today. Went out for lunch with my S.O.,
> > riding Quickbeam and Glorius respectively. Burgers and fries at the
> Tartan
> > (45th anniversary year for them), followed by a matinee showing of Fury
> (two
> > thumbs up, although not a perfect film), then rush to pick up the kids at
> > school for the ride home.
> >
> > Only pic from all that:
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15149969103/
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ha! To freeze dry them, I presume? Even using the outside deep freezer,
> I
> >> can just imagine the condescending look of disgust and vile judgement
> on my
> >> wife's face. Grin.
> >>
> >> My current plan is to try a vapor barrier (plastic baggie) next to my
> foot
> >> with the same set up I used today and see where that gets me.
> >>
> >> With abandon,
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:18:37 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can you keep the mukluks in the freezer?
> >>> Like in a 'footwear drawer?'
> >>>
> >>> Philip
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[RBW] FS: Nice Lugged Steel

[Eric Norris]

I’m selling a bike that’s perhaps a bit “racier” than most on this list, but I 
thought someone here might like it … or know someone who does.

The bike is a 1980s Benotto, refinished by Joe Bell and equipped with 
period-correct Campagnolo and Phil Wood equipment. Nice bike in excellent 
condition.

Size is 57cm, with about a 56cm top tube (I don’t have the bike here, so I 
can’t measure exactly). Comes with a Brooks Professional saddle.

Photo here shows the bike before I put a Super Record crankset back on, and 
switched the rear mech to Super Record:

https://flic.kr/p/cg29vW  

Here it is in random trim:

https://flic.kr/p/9BiiAW  

The bike is currently at Edible Pedal, a small bike shop in downtown 
Sacramento. Asking price is $1,300. If you have any questions, call Edible 
Pedal and ask for John: 916-822-5969 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Hugh Smitham]

https://flic.kr/p/pgpfKC

https://flic.kr/p/hUrN6m

The first link is the Hetre's casing don't see anything special and doesn't
seem substantial. When mounted They rode great. I do try to avoid debris
but I'm not fanatical about it, generally more concerned with other large
obstacles . I rode them on a fire road in the San Gabriel's which has
granite structures exposed  which I suspect  is different from Jan's gravel
roads.

The second link is the gash from said ride...tore then the tube squeezed
out and ruptured.

Jan did sell me  replacement at cost, so I'll try em again just not on our
brand of off road.

Also realize I'm hijacking this post, my apologies. But this tire gets me
going.

-Hugh
Los Angeles, CA
On Nov 11, 2014 7:37 PM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:

> I’ve been to Seattle and ridden there. The roads don’t *seem* to be
> magically free of debris, but that’s the only way to explain Jan’s run of
> good luck. The GBs are nice tires—I really like them—but in my experience
> they are just as prone to flatting as anything else out there. Maybe more.
>
> —Eric N
> campyonly...@me.com
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>
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 7:14 PM, hsmitham  wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
> I don't buy Jan's Hetre's flat resistance. He can come ride em in LA and
> see how he fairs. I know, I know others swear by them. It must just be my
> bad luck.
>
> Hugh
> Los Angeles, CA
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09:26 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s
> rear tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) snagged
> both of these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m
> holding in a gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; the
> other was embedded in the tire about 20 miles later but somehow didn’t
> damage the tube.
>
>
> https://flic.kr/p/q2b95K
>
>
> https://flic.kr/p/pZ5DX5
>
>
> Jan Heine reports excellent flat resistance with Grand Bois tires; he
> should come ride the mean streets of Sacramento County sometime.
>
>
> —Eric N
> campyo...@me.com
> www.campyonly.com
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>
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Shoji Takahashi  wrote:
>
> Are you using new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick
> up pebbles and small rocks.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Jim Bronson]

The new Compass tires seem to have a bit more tread thickness than the
Grand Bois tires, IMO.  I think they are a little more flat resistant
than the Grand Bois.  That is not to say that you won't get flats, but
I think it's a reasonable amount.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
> https://flic.kr/p/pgpfKC
>
> https://flic.kr/p/hUrN6m
>
> The first link is the Hetre's casing don't see anything special and doesn't
> seem substantial. When mounted They rode great. I do try to avoid debris but
> I'm not fanatical about it, generally more concerned with other large
> obstacles . I rode them on a fire road in the San Gabriel's which has
> granite structures exposed  which I suspect  is different from Jan's gravel
> roads.
>
> The second link is the gash from said ride...tore then the tube squeezed out
> and ruptured.
>
> Jan did sell me  replacement at cost, so I'll try em again just not on our
> brand of off road.
>
> Also realize I'm hijacking this post, my apologies. But this tire gets me
> going.
>
> -Hugh
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> On Nov 11, 2014 7:37 PM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:
>>
>> I’ve been to Seattle and ridden there. The roads don’t *seem* to be
>> magically free of debris, but that’s the only way to explain Jan’s run of
>> good luck. The GBs are nice tires—I really like them—but in my experience
>> they are just as prone to flatting as anything else out there. Maybe more.
>>
>> —Eric N
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> www.wheelsnorth.org
>> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 7:14 PM, hsmitham  wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I don't buy Jan's Hetre's flat resistance. He can come ride em in LA and
>> see how he fairs. I know, I know others swear by them. It must just be my
>> bad luck.
>>
>> Hugh
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09:26 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, my Hetres seem very adept at picking stuff up. Monsieur Blériot’s
>> rear tire (worn enough to have lost most of the molded tread ribs) snagged
>> both of these items in the same ride on Sunday. The straight piece I’m
>> holding in a gloved hand went through the sidewall and caused a flat; the
>> other was embedded in the tire about 20 miles later but somehow didn’t
>> damage the tube.
>>
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/q2b95K
>>
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/pZ5DX5
>>
>>
>> Jan Heine reports excellent flat resistance with Grand Bois tires; he
>> should come ride the mean streets of Sacramento County sometime.
>>
>>
>> —Eric N
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> www.wheelsnorth.org
>> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Shoji Takahashi  wrote:
>>
>> Are you using new-ish tires? New tires seem a bit more tacky and can pick
>> up pebbles and small rocks.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Andy Schmidt]

The other 6 months I don't worry about the world. I just enjoy shirt
sleeves and blue skies.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Smitty, Thanks! I can't help but wonder, however, how you reassure
> yourself all is right with the world the other 6 months? Grin.
>
> David, date afternoon in the rain sounds wonderful! And your wife's
> Glorious is ... glorious!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:50:11 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> I know all is well in the world when Deacon P is riding the Mammoth in
>> the snow.
>>
>> --Smitty
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled
>>> up and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or
>>> perhaps Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my
>>> own mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in
>>> the snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last
>>> 6 months). So I wimped out and turned around.
>>>
>>> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet
>>> to sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is
>>> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still
>>> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>>>
>>> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado
>>> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>>
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