my tire wiper installation (supported almost equally with the opposite 
installation in vintage photographs) even brought up an "incorrect" 
response from Jan.  
But, they eject everything except dust and water from my Honjos, including 
Big rocks and Big sticks.  I've done the math and the roadwork - there is 
no way you're going to flip these around without grossly deforming the 
fenders, because the fender clearances are tight enough, and anything that 
would deform the fenders to that extent makes the flip factor moot.  On the 
contrary, they keep that big stuff out of the fenders, along with all the 
small stuff.  
They even scrape mud before it enters the fenders.  Of course they only 
work with slick tires.  I wouldn't use these on the big clearances of my 
daughter's SKS fenders, but they function perfectly like this on my 
relatively low-clearance Honjos.  

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On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:10:38 AM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I think all fenders do that on occasion.  Maybe you didn't hear it as much 
> with the plastic fenders?  
>
> Yehuda Moon uses it to his advantage, as a weapon in his war against cars.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:58 PM, lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I recently installed H50 Honjos on the Bleriot with my Hetres, as you may 
>> recall from an earlier post.
>>
>> I have between what looks like 1-2cm clearance all around. Tightest are 
>> under the sidepull brakes. That's the max I can get. Tires spin fine, no 
>> rubbing. No rattling.
>>
>> But on the two commutes I did this week, I repeatedly heard pebbles and 
>> rocks rattling through the fenders as I rode over them.
>>
>> Does this indicate that the clearances are not ample?
>> Do I need to go to a narrower/smaller tire?
>>
>> I have SKS Longboards and Hetres on my Sam bike and I rarely hear rocks 
>> going through, though the clearances look similar to what I have on the 
>> Bleriot.
>>
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