Re: [RBW] Re: scouting East Canyon

[Evan Spacht]

I'm in total agreement; it's more of a hiking trail but fun, nonetheless. 
I personally find the trail a bit too steep and rocky for an enjoyable 
descent. 
Keep me posted on fall destinations and count me in.
-Evan

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:50:19 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> except that it's a short ride ( 45 min.) to the top and  no where to go 
> from there except down to the San Fernando Valley. You don't want to go 
> that way.
>
> There are much better rides up there north of town. Longer and nicer.  
>
> ~mike
>
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Mille Miglia on Vitorria Randonneur Hyper 700 x 38

[IanA]

Would you mind measuring the actual width if you have some calipers? 
 Wondering if these will fit my LongLow.

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:49:49 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>
> Following our recent discussion on the search for supple, 40 mm tires, Rob 
> Perks of Ocean Air Cycles (http://oceanaircycles.com/)  lent me a pair of 
> Vittoria Randonneur Hyper tires to try.  After putting over 1,000 miles on 
> them in all types of riding, I'm suitably impressed with the performance 
> and the ride comfort.  While this tire does not appear on Vittoria's 
> website under the "Rando Hyper" label, the Voyager Hyper appears to be 
> quite similar.
>
> For reference, my Atlantis came with 35 mm Panaracer Paselas back in '03.  
> After managing to accumulate a fair number of sidewall cuts, I changed to 
> Panaracer's T-Servs when the rear Pasela wore out.  It was a long time ago 
> so the ride of the Pasela is lost to memory but I recall the T-Servs 
> feeling noticeably stiffer.  Then I discovered Schwalbe's Marathon Supremes 
> & that's all I've run now for perhaps 5-6 years.  In fairness to my 
> previous tires, it was only after moving to Schwalbe that I discovered the 
> comfort of lower air pressure.  My baseline is the 40 mm Marathon Supreme 
> at 50 psi front / 60 psi rear.  A key feature for me is the great mileage 
> and lack of flats with Schwalbe.  
>
> I did not weigh the Vittorias but holding one in one hand and a Schwalbe 
> in the other there is not a noticable difference.  Assuming the Voyager is 
> the replacement for the Rando, they are roughly 50 grams lighter than the 
> 40 mm Schwalbe, per each mfg's website.  That's not enough for me to 
> notice.  
>
> After mounting up the Vittorias and inflating to the same 50 & 60 psi as 
> the Schwalbes, I've now ridden them in daily riding, off-road adventures, 
> and a lodging tour.  They do indeed ride smoother & with greater comfort 
> than Marathon Supremes.  The Marathon does not have an aggressive tread and 
> is only so-so off-road (OK on hard clay adobe; not so hot in soft stuff).  
> The Vittoria has even less tread & is really marginal off-road.  Even on 
> hard pack, it's prone to spinning under load.  This was the tire I used on 
> the Loch Leven adventure and it does slide around.  In fairness, the advice 
> was to "run knobbies".  
>
> But these kinds of tires are not intended for serious off-road work, and 
> I'm clumsy at best under those conditions anyway.  On the road they are 
> wonderful and I'd recommend them for general riding and touring.  For a 
> load, I bump up the pressure 10 psi and they still ride great.  In over 
> 1,000 miles I did get one flat (wouldn't you know it, within the last mile 
> of Hostel Obispo).  My normal flat rate with Marathon Supremes is about 1 
> on the rear every 5,000 miles and seldom to never on the front.  
>
> Now that Marathon Supremes have gotten quite pricey ($80 at Rivendell & 
> another $10 from Schwalbe on-line) I may move onto something more 
> comfortable and less spendy for everyday use, saving the Schwalbes for 
> tours.  Rob has a tire project he's working on that sounds interesting and 
> of course there's always the Pasela default or several others that were 
> mentioned in the recent thread.  Anyway, it was fun to have an improvement 
> in comfort and to find something new to obsess about.
>
> dougP
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saluki at 2200 feet

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Beautiful color on that dog. 
I haven't set any specific goals but I too hope to be out doing this kind 
of stuff in 30 years... hiking, biking, paddling... all of it. 
age 39... a whole life still ahead. 
--Smitty


On Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:03:42 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> One of my long time rides takes me up to Smugglers Notch. I've done this 
> 45 mile ride from my home pretty much once a year for the past thirty years 
> and one of my life goals is to do it for my 70th birthday, 15 months from 
> now.  The climb has 1800 feet of climbing in a 9 mile stretch, but 1000 
> feet of that comes in the last 3 miles of steady 7-10%, and most of the 
> rest in the first mile.  I'm about 25% slower now than I was at the turn of 
> the millennium and this time I had to walk up the 75-100 meters of 20%+ 
> grade, but I made it, and am feeling pretty good about that, even though it 
> seems clear I will need to loose 20 lbs if I want to ride up non stop a 
> year from now..  Ms Saluki is quite comfortable going back down at 45 mph.
>
> https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A2Grq0zwGOWHQK
>
> It's hard to see altitude!
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: Northwest Roadtrip with bikes

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Your pics make the San Juans look pretty inviting. 

Looks like you saw a fair amount of PDX on your own. It's a fun town to 
just pedal around and explore. 

--Smitty



On Friday, July 12, 2013 5:46:20 PM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:
>
> A couple of weeks ago I asked the list for some suggestions on places to 
> ride for my Pacific NW roadtrip. We ended up staying twice in Portland with 
> a 3-night bike-camping trip in the San Juan Islands. It was great. 
>
> We didn't get out of Portland for any ride, but rode all over town for the 
> total 4 nights we stayed. On the islands we stayed at Lopez and Orcas, and 
> visited San Juan Island. The ride on the west shore of San Juan, and on 
> Orcas were spectacular, especially riding from Eastsound to the top of Mt 
> Constitution in Moran State Park. Here are some pictures from the trip. We 
> both rode 650b-wheeled bikes, where my wife carried her load on a tubus 
> rear rack on her 82' Trek 720 and I carried most of the load upfront on my 
> Sequoia with a kogswell low-trail fork. Both bikes worked great as touring 
> bikes. I saw David's (cyclotourist) flickr pictures on his visit to 
> Portland and am a little envious he got to ride with some folks around 
> town, but we had a good time. Next time!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/collections/72157634576427083/
>
> best,
> Franklyn
>

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[RBW] FS: New Rough Stuff Single Speed Rear Wheel - $150.00 (pick up only)

[Matthew J]

For sale is a never used Rich Lesnik built single speed wheel and 
freewheels:

White Industries 36h Silver Eno Hub
Velocity Dyad Silver Rim
New White Industries 18 teeth Freewheel
Lightly (very) used White Industries 22 teeth Freewheel
Zefal Rim Tape

$150.00 price is real cheap and is only for someone who can pick this up - 
I am on the Northwest side of Chicago.

If there are no local buyers I may offer to ship but price will be closer 
to actual value.

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Rough Stuff Single Speed Rear Wheel - $150.00 (pick up only)

[Matthew J]

700C (And a big old duh on my part for hitting send before adding!)

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:19:01 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>
> For sale is a never used Rich Lesnik built single speed wheel and 
> freewheels:
>
> White Industries 36h Silver Eno Hub
> Velocity Dyad Silver Rim
> New White Industries 18 teeth Freewheel
> Lightly (very) used White Industries 22 teeth Freewheel
> Zefal Rim Tape
>
> $150.00 price is real cheap and is only for someone who can pick this up - 
> I am on the Northwest side of Chicago.
>
> If there are no local buyers I may offer to ship but price will be closer 
> to actual value.
>

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[RBW] Rivendell sittings yesterday, Markleeville Death Ride - was it you?

[reynoldslugs]

Did this challenging ride yesterday (www.deathride.com) for the seventh time.  
Quite beautiful, but less than 5% of the riders were on steel.  I chose my 
Orange Rambouillet for the day.

I was taking a break on the Ebbets Pass ascent when a nice guy on a tall 
Rivendell road passed me - his bike was a very nice deep green.  Would love to 
know more about the bike and the paintunfortunately did not have time to 
talk,

Was it you?

Also got passed by a strong rider on a white Roadeo, I think right before the 
Carson Pass climb.  Who could that be?

Anyway, send a note if you were out on the DR yesterday.

Best,

Max Beach

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell sighting what are the odds?

[Johnny Alien]

Fred, you aren't too too far from me (I am in Harrisburg).  Are you by any 
chance doing the Lancaster covered bridge ride in August?

On Sunday, July 7, 2013 1:03:03 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Went out for a short ramble South of Del Mar through Torrey Pines reserve 
> and just happened to run into another Hilsen on my way back, Curtis and his 
> 67cm Homer. I recall Curtis joining the bunch inquiring about San Diego 
> mixed terrain rides as he had just acquired his Rivendell. What are the 
> odds in SD county dominated with carbon that we'd run into each other? I'm 
> not a mathematician but it seems the odds would be pretty high. Then again 
> as the Rivendell anomaly amplifies the odds will be more favorable of such 
> serendipitous meetings.It was a nice end to a ride.
>
> Pictures prove that it happened.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157634506333058/
>
> ~Hugh
>

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[RBW] Rivendell sighting what are the odds?

[Frank Quan]

I live in Oceanside but don't ride on the coast much in the summer.  I usually 
head to Bonsall, Fallbrook or Valley Center to get away from the crowd. 

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell sittings yesterday, Markleeville Death Ride - was it you?

[Addison Wilhite]

I was out there.  On my blue/white Gunnar Sport.  It's been 11 years since
I did the DR.  I was struck at just how many fewer steel bikes out there
since then.  I love bikes, even stealthy carbon pro racing machines, but I
kept wondering if there was basically one factory in Taiwan with a cookie
cutter carbon machine, and a separate room where workers paint the same
frame "Fuji, Specialized, Argon, Wilier, etc. etc."  I know that's not
fair.  30 years ago you could probably say the same basic thing about a
steel bike.  To the less discerning eye they probably all look the same
without the paint.

Anyway, a really nice day for a ride.  It's hard to describe for those not
used to that type of unrelenting gradients how intense the ride can be.
 That east side of monitor is breathtaking.  The descent and the ascent.
 I'd ridden Ebbett's a few days earlier just to remind and test myself as
far as fitness.

Cheers,


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:35 AM, reynoldslugs  wrote:

> Did this challenging ride yesterday (www.deathride.com) for the seventh
> time.  Quite beautiful, but less than 5% of the riders were on steel.  I
> chose my Orange Rambouillet for the day.
>
> I was taking a break on the Ebbets Pass ascent when a nice guy on a tall
> Rivendell road passed me - his bike was a very nice deep green.  Would love
> to know more about the bike and the paintunfortunately did not have
> time to talk,
>
> Was it you?
>
> Also got passed by a strong rider on a white Roadeo, I think right before
> the Carson Pass climb.  Who could that be?
>
> Anyway, send a note if you were out on the DR yesterday.
>
> Best,
>
> Max Beach
>
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[RBW] Re: Northwest Roadtrip with bikes

[franklyn]

Next time up in portland we will ride to Cape Lookout and Nehalem Bay!

Franklyn

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:15:32 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> Your pics make the San Juans look pretty inviting. 
>
> Looks like you saw a fair amount of PDX on your own. It's a fun town to 
> just pedal around and explore. 
>
> --Smitty
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 12, 2013 5:46:20 PM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:
>>
>> A couple of weeks ago I asked the list for some suggestions on places to 
>> ride for my Pacific NW roadtrip. We ended up staying twice in Portland with 
>> a 3-night bike-camping trip in the San Juan Islands. It was great. 
>>
>> We didn't get out of Portland for any ride, but rode all over town for 
>> the total 4 nights we stayed. On the islands we stayed at Lopez and Orcas, 
>> and visited San Juan Island. The ride on the west shore of San Juan, and on 
>> Orcas were spectacular, especially riding from Eastsound to the top of Mt 
>> Constitution in Moran State Park. Here are some pictures from the trip. We 
>> both rode 650b-wheeled bikes, where my wife carried her load on a tubus 
>> rear rack on her 82' Trek 720 and I carried most of the load upfront on my 
>> Sequoia with a kogswell low-trail fork. Both bikes worked great as touring 
>> bikes. I saw David's (cyclotourist) flickr pictures on his visit to 
>> Portland and am a little envious he got to ride with some folks around 
>> town, but we had a good time. Next time!
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/collections/72157634576427083/
>>
>> best,
>> Franklyn
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Family Bike Tour

[franklyn]

How did you get to Seaside? did you take the bus over to the coast?

Franklyn

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:52:42 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> Landing back at home after a week bike tour with my family and hearing the 
> news about Seth V was/is gut wrenching. Like most of those who commented on 
> that thread, I only knew Seth online through this group. It still feels 
> like a loss nonetheless. Right before we departed on our trip, I heard 
> another incident of a cyclist hit-and-run on a road just outside Portland. 
> As me and mine pedaled over this past week, it was tough to shake thoughts 
> of the risks we take by riding on roads. We made it through without 
> incident and the the time spent with the family on the bike was the stuff 
> to remember for a lifetime. Despite the risks involved in doing a trip like 
> this, my belief that bicycling is the "freedom of the open road" that car 
> commercials have been peddling for however many years, is that much 
> stronger.
>
> Pics remind me why I ride. 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634624349704/
>
> --Smitty
>
>

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[RBW] shipping a bike to Karme Choling

[bo richardson]

My main bicycling buddy Anne is off to the Buddhist Center in 
St Johnsbury Vt for two years. She flies in for August and then drives
from Washington State at the end of September.
 
Anne comes into Hanover NH by bus and then gets picked up by car.
 
We were thinking of packing and shipping her
Miyata 1000 before she flies so she would have it
for August and beyond.
 
The bike shops in the area get stunningly bad reviews.
Peter White is two hours away and two hours back.
 
It wont kill Anne to do without her bike for August 
but if there is a solution it would be nice for her to have.
 
Does anyone on the list have local knowledge which would
solve Anne's problem?
 
Even knowing there isnt a solution would help.
 
Thanks
 
Bo Richardson
Bellingham Wa.

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RE: [RBW] shipping a bike to Karme Choling

[Joe Bartoe]

Hi Bo,

I have used the Air Caddy system to ship bikes with very good results. The bike 
is put into the box, attached to a fork mount. All you have to do at the back 
end is reattach the front wheel, rotate the handlebars into position, and 
re-insert the seatpost and tighten it down. I've shipped 3 bikes this way now 
with no issues. You can buy the Air Caddy and even get good pricing on shipping 
through this site:

http://www.shipbikes.com/Whatis.html

Hope that helps,

Joe

Joe Bartoe
Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
email: j...@synapticcycles.com
website: www.synapticcycles.com
Twitter: @synapticcycles
phone: 949-374-6079

Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:36:55 -0700
From: borus...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] shipping a bike to Karme Choling

My main bicycling buddy Anne is off to the Buddhist Center in 
St Johnsbury Vt for two years. She flies in for August and then drives
from Washington State at the end of September.
 
Anne comes into Hanover NH by bus and then gets picked up by car.
 
We were thinking of packing and shipping her
Miyata 1000 before she flies so she would have it
for August and beyond.
 
The bike shops in the area get stunningly bad reviews.
Peter White is two hours away and two hours back.
 
It wont kill Anne to do without her bike for August 
but if there is a solution it would be nice for her to have.
 
Does anyone on the list have local knowledge which would
solve Anne's problem?
 
Even knowing there isnt a solution would help.
 
Thanks
 
Bo Richardson
Bellingham Wa.




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Re: [RBW] Rivendell sittings yesterday, Markleeville Death Ride - was it you?

[jimD]

Max,
Good on ya! 

I've tried twice but have been seduced by ice cream prior to Carson pass.
-JimD

On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:35 AM, reynoldslugs  wrote:

> Did this challenging ride yesterday (www.deathride.com) for the seventh time. 
>  Quite beautiful, but less than 5% of the riders were on steel.  I chose my 
> Orange Rambouillet for the day.
> 
> I was taking a break on the Ebbets Pass ascent when a nice guy on a tall 
> Rivendell road passed me - his bike was a very nice deep green.  Would love 
> to know more about the bike and the paintunfortunately did not have time 
> to talk,
> 
> Was it you?
> 
> Also got passed by a strong rider on a white Roadeo, I think right before the 
> Carson Pass climb.  Who could that be?
> 
> Anyway, send a note if you were out on the DR yesterday.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Max Beach
> 
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Re: [RBW] shipping a bike to Karme Choling

[jimD]

+1 for Air Caddy.

On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Joe Bartoe  wrote:

> Hi Bo,
> 
> I have used the Air Caddy system to ship bikes with very good results. The 
> bike is put into the box, attached to a fork mount. All you have to do at the 
> back end is reattach the front wheel, rotate the handlebars into position, 
> and re-insert the seatpost and tighten it down. I've shipped 3 bikes this way 
> now with no issues. You can buy the Air Caddy and even get good pricing on 
> shipping through this site:
> 
> http://www.shipbikes.com/Whatis.html
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Joe
> 
> Joe Bartoe
> Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
> email: j...@synapticcycles.com
> website: www.synapticcycles.com
> Twitter: @synapticcycles
> phone: 949-374-6079
> 
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:36:55 -0700
> From: borus...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] shipping a bike to Karme Choling
> 
> My main bicycling buddy Anne is off to the Buddhist Center in
> St Johnsbury Vt for two years. She flies in for August and then drives
> from Washington State at the end of September.
>  
> Anne comes into Hanover NH by bus and then gets picked up by car.
>  
> We were thinking of packing and shipping her
> Miyata 1000 before she flies so she would have it
> for August and beyond.
>  
> The bike shops in the area get stunningly bad reviews.
> Peter White is two hours away and two hours back.
>  
> It wont kill Anne to do without her bike for August
> but if there is a solution it would be nice for her to have.
>  
> Does anyone on the list have local knowledge which would
> solve Anne's problem?
>  
> Even knowing there isnt a solution would help.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Bo Richardson
> Bellingham Wa.
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[RBW] Re: Family Bike Tour

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

List member Tommy Nguyen drove us to Seaside. He rode and camped with us 
for the first day/night.  

--Andy


On Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:05:02 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:
>
> How did you get to Seaside? did you take the bus over to the coast?
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:52:42 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Landing back at home after a week bike tour with my family and hearing 
>> the news about Seth V was/is gut wrenching. Like most of those who 
>> commented on that thread, I only knew Seth online through this group. It 
>> still feels like a loss nonetheless. Right before we departed on our trip, 
>> I heard another incident of a cyclist hit-and-run on a road just outside 
>> Portland. As me and mine pedaled over this past week, it was tough to shake 
>> thoughts of the risks we take by riding on roads. We made it through 
>> without incident and the the time spent with the family on the bike was the 
>> stuff to remember for a lifetime. Despite the risks involved in doing a 
>> trip like this, my belief that bicycling is the "freedom of the open road" 
>> that car commercials have been peddling for however many years, is that 
>> much stronger.
>>
>> Pics remind me why I ride. 
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634624349704/
>>
>> --Smitty
>>
>>

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[RBW] shipping a bike to Karme Choling

[Jay B]

+2 for the Air Caddy. I've flown with the Quickbeam several times and shipped a 
Betty Foy once. It's a well thought out and easy system, but keep in mind front 
fenders and front racks might require additional attention in order to fit. 
also, with all the extra room in the box it's really easy to toss in your bags 
and helmets and locks and such and quickly blow past the 50 pound weight limit. 
the 58cm Betty with fenders and tail light maxed out the length of the box, as 
well. for a cardboard box, ours have proven really durable and I expect to get 
many more uses/trips out of them. 

-Jay

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Re: [RBW] Family Bike Tour

[Brian Hanson]

The risks are worth the rewards. These pictures show it in spades.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Jul 13, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Andy Smitty Schmidt <54ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Landing back at home after a week bike tour with my family and hearing the 
> news about Seth V was/is gut wrenching. Like most of those who commented on 
> that thread, I only knew Seth online through this group. It still feels like 
> a loss nonetheless. Right before we departed on our trip, I heard another 
> incident of a cyclist hit-and-run on a road just outside Portland. As me and 
> mine pedaled over this past week, it was tough to shake thoughts of the risks 
> we take by riding on roads. We made it through without incident and the the 
> time spent with the family on the bike was the stuff to remember for a 
> lifetime. Despite the risks involved in doing a trip like this, my belief 
> that bicycling is the "freedom of the open road" that car commercials have 
> been peddling for however many years, is that much stronger.
> 
> Pics remind me why I ride. 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634624349704/
> 
> --Smitty
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[RBW] Re: Mille Miglia on Vitorria Randonneur Hyper 700 x 38

[dougP]

The Vittorias measure about 38-39 mm @ 60 psi on a Mavic A-719 rim (22 mm 
width, IIRC).  The Schwalbes measure right at 40 mm.  

dougP

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:52:57 AM UTC-7, IanA wrote:
>
> Would you mind measuring the actual width if you have some calipers? 
>  Wondering if these will fit my LongLow.
>
> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:49:49 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Following our recent discussion on the search for supple, 40 mm tires, 
>> Rob Perks of Ocean Air Cycles (http://oceanaircycles.com/)  lent me a 
>> pair of Vittoria Randonneur Hyper tires to try.  After putting over 1,000 
>> miles on them in all types of riding, I'm suitably impressed with the 
>> performance and the ride comfort.  While this tire does not appear on 
>> Vittoria's website under the "Rando Hyper" label, the Voyager Hyper appears 
>> to be quite similar.
>>
>> For reference, my Atlantis came with 35 mm Panaracer Paselas back in 
>> '03.  After managing to accumulate a fair number of sidewall cuts, I 
>> changed to Panaracer's T-Servs when the rear Pasela wore out.  It was a 
>> long time ago so the ride of the Pasela is lost to memory but I recall the 
>> T-Servs feeling noticeably stiffer.  Then I discovered Schwalbe's Marathon 
>> Supremes & that's all I've run now for perhaps 5-6 years.  In fairness to 
>> my previous tires, it was only after moving to Schwalbe that I discovered 
>> the comfort of lower air pressure.  My baseline is the 40 mm Marathon 
>> Supreme at 50 psi front / 60 psi rear.  A key feature for me is the great 
>> mileage and lack of flats with Schwalbe.  
>>
>> I did not weigh the Vittorias but holding one in one hand and a Schwalbe 
>> in the other there is not a noticable difference.  Assuming the Voyager is 
>> the replacement for the Rando, they are roughly 50 grams lighter than the 
>> 40 mm Schwalbe, per each mfg's website.  That's not enough for me to 
>> notice.  
>>
>> After mounting up the Vittorias and inflating to the same 50 & 60 psi as 
>> the Schwalbes, I've now ridden them in daily riding, off-road adventures, 
>> and a lodging tour.  They do indeed ride smoother & with greater comfort 
>> than Marathon Supremes.  The Marathon does not have an aggressive tread and 
>> is only so-so off-road (OK on hard clay adobe; not so hot in soft stuff).  
>> The Vittoria has even less tread & is really marginal off-road.  Even on 
>> hard pack, it's prone to spinning under load.  This was the tire I used on 
>> the Loch Leven adventure and it does slide around.  In fairness, the advice 
>> was to "run knobbies".  
>>
>> But these kinds of tires are not intended for serious off-road work, and 
>> I'm clumsy at best under those conditions anyway.  On the road they are 
>> wonderful and I'd recommend them for general riding and touring.  For a 
>> load, I bump up the pressure 10 psi and they still ride great.  In over 
>> 1,000 miles I did get one flat (wouldn't you know it, within the last mile 
>> of Hostel Obispo).  My normal flat rate with Marathon Supremes is about 1 
>> on the rear every 5,000 miles and seldom to never on the front.  
>>
>> Now that Marathon Supremes have gotten quite pricey ($80 at Rivendell & 
>> another $10 from Schwalbe on-line) I may move onto something more 
>> comfortable and less spendy for everyday use, saving the Schwalbes for 
>> tours.  Rob has a tire project he's working on that sounds interesting and 
>> of course there's always the Pasela default or several others that were 
>> mentioned in the recent thread.  Anyway, it was fun to have an improvement 
>> in comfort and to find something new to obsess about.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Synergy rims

[George Millwood]

Had 700's on the Atlantis for 5 years.  Commuted and toured.  No problems.

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[RBW] FS: New Rough Stuff Single Speed Rear Wheel - $150.00 (pick up only)

[ageorgestew...@gmail.com]

Matthew, what is spacing?
Thanks.

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[RBW] Second Breakfast (ride report)

[Pondero]

Because I know some of you enjoy ride reports, here's one...

http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2013/07/13/second-breakfast-micro-tour/

To be honest, it's more about what happens between pedaling sessions.  But 
I rode my A. Homer Hilsen 40+ miles, over delightful paved and non-paved 
roads, so this could happen.  It's hot in Texas, but somehow we manage.

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[RBW] Re: Second Breakfast (ride report)

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

A hammock should be a bike ride essential.

--Smitty


On Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:59:45 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>
> Because I know some of you enjoy ride reports, here's one...
>
> http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2013/07/13/second-breakfast-micro-tour/
>
> To be honest, it's more about what happens between pedaling sessions.  But 
> I rode my A. Homer Hilsen 40+ miles, over delightful paved and non-paved 
> roads, so this could happen.  It's hot in Texas, but somehow we manage.
>

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[RBW] shipping a bike to Karme Choling

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

I will be in Meredith NH from July 25th until August 9th. If I can help in some 
way please let me know. It's an hour plus from Hanover.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Mille Miglia on Vitorria Randonneur Hyper 700 x 38

[Mike Schiller]

I think the A719 is wider than 22mm  Doug. I have the A319's and it 
measures 25mm on the outside. I think the A719 is the same.

Good review on that tire.They are well liked from all I've read.   Maybe 
you should try some knobbies for your next test?

~mike

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[RBW] WT Trade: Technomic long for short

[KyleBH]

I have a Technomic stem, 10 cm length, 26mm clamp that I'd like to trade for 
the same with a 7 cm length. 

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[RBW] Re: Second Breakfast (ride report)

[WETH]

Outstanding way to beat the heat or at least adapt to it.  I think I may have 
to add a hamock to my cycling gear.
-Erl 

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell sittings yesterday, Markleeville Death Ride - was it you?

[reynoldslugs]

Jim and Addison -

I did see one fellow on a really nice looking Gunnar, perhaps it was you - 
- it was a relatively new Gunnar, I think it was white with the new style 
of decal.  I might be wrong about the color (I was pretty popped when I saw 
it), I just remember thinking it was a very classy looking bike.

As for ice cream and Carson Pass, sometimes it's just the thought of the 
ice cream (traditionally given out at the top of the pass) that keeps me 
going.

I only did two passes this year - - I spent the last two weeks before the 
ride in Berlin and Munich eating German food and drinking German beer (Zero 
riding), and got off a 13 hour transatlantic flight exactly 36 hours before 
the ride.  Not what anyone would call smart training - - so I stuck with 
the front side of Monitor and the front side of Ebbets, for about 6k' over 
50 miles.  I'll do better next year.

The ride, even a short version, is an epic, magnificent day.  The locals 
turn out in droves and cheer the riders - - literally the full population 
of Markleeville sits on the court house lawn and cheers the riders.

Still looking for the owner of that pretty Rivendell road that passed me 
ascending Ebbets.  Very nice deep emerald green.

Max

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[RBW] Re: Tuning up indexing, a little OT

[Jeremy Till]

Yes, others are right in that cable tension is key with indexing, 
especially as the number of rear cogs increase.  Barrel adjusters are your 
friend.  From your description, i would say that you probably have just 
slightly too much tension--maybe a 1/2 or 3/4 turn of the barrel adjuster 
in might help.  

I usually setup indexing by adjust limit screws first, then set the cable 
anchor, just barely taking up all cable slack in the smallest cog.  Then i 
shift into the second to smallest cog--just one jump--and check to make 
sure that that derailleur pulleys are centered under that cog.  If not, i 
use the barrel adjuster to fine tune it's position.  Then I shift up into 
the higher parts of the cassette and double check.  As long as the 
derailleur is staying centered in each gear you should be getting even 
shifts up and down.  

If the derailleur is centering well, especially on the way up, but hanging 
up going down, another culprit might be friction in the cable housing, 
which I imagine might be a problem with the long cable runs on a tandem.  
The shifter is shifting but friction in the system is holding the cable 
against the spring in the derailleur.  If that's the case, try lubricating 
the cable housing and any cable guides with a thin lubricant like TriFlow.  

Finally, if you're getting even shifting in one part of the cassette but 
not in another, your derailleur hanger might be slightly bent.  Any good 
LBS should have the Park hanger alignment gauge, which checks to make sure 
that hanger threads are perpendicular to the plane of the wheel (and thus 
the cogs).  With most frames, especially steel ones, you can also use the 
gauge to slightly cold-set the hanger into proper alignment, although if 
it's a badly bent replaceable aluminum hanger cold-setting in back might 
crack it.

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:23:33 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I stopped using indexed shifting about ten years ago, and reverted to 
> friction, which seemed to require less fussing, at least in the shimano 
> version.  Now I have a tandem with shimano BE's, which was set up by a bike 
> shop. Perhaps one of you who works with this stuff regularly can offer some 
> guidance.
>
> The rear shifting worked quite well but it took me 2 1/2 years to get the 
> front end shifting predictably (for those of you who have never ridden a 
> tandem, front end shifting is a very different animal).  While fixing the 
> front end, which now works perfectly, I replaced the much too big Deore XT 
> RD with an Ultegra 6700 GS, and can't seem to get it to work quite right. 
>  The limit screws are good, as is the B screw,  and the cable tension feels 
> quite high.  The indexed shifter lifts the chain fine from the outside all 
> the way up to the inside (28) cog; but when I start down it will hang up 
> between the 1 & 2 position, then jump two cogs on the next click; it then 
> hangs between 7 & 6, and jumps 2 cogs to 5.  After that it is OK, except 
> for that indexing hesitation which I hate.  The chain (wipperman 908) has 
> just a few hundred miles on it and the cassette (11-28 HG) is new.
>
> Right now, I have reverted to friction which seems to be working fine, but 
> would like to get the dang index to behave!
>
> Michael
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tuning up indexing, a little OT

[Steve Palincsar]

Actually, there isn't any more cable housing as such on a tandem than there is 
on a single; most of the cable run is out in the open.  One area that used to 
create a lot of trouble for indexing, especially for converting the older 
friction tandems to indexing, was the routing of the cable under the captain's 
bottom bracket.  Many of the bikes had the cable run through holes drilled in a 
flange beneath the bottom bracket shell, which was split to allow eccentric 
motion to take up timing chain tension.  It worked fine for friction shifting, 
but provided too much cable friction for indexing.  However it took a few years 
to figure it out, leading to much frustration in the meantime.


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From: "Jeremy Till" 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:29:00 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Tuning up indexing, a little OT

Yes, others are right in that cable tension is key with indexing, especially as 
the number of rear cogs increase. Barrel adjusters are your friend. From your 
description, i would say that you probably have just slightly too much 
tension--maybe a 1/2 or 3/4 turn of the barrel adjuster in might help. 

I usually setup indexing by adjust limit screws first, then set the cable 
anchor, just barely taking up all cable slack in the smallest cog. Then i shift 
into the second to smallest cog--just one jump--and check to make sure that 
that derailleur pulleys are centered under that cog. If not, i use the barrel 
adjuster to fine tune it's position. Then I shift up into the higher parts of 
the cassette and double check. As long as the derailleur is staying centered in 
each gear you should be getting even shifts up and down. 

If the derailleur is centering well, especially on the way up, but hanging up 
going down, another culprit might be friction in the cable housing, which I 
imagine might be a problem with the long cable runs on a tandem. The shifter is 
shifting but friction in the system is holding the cable against the spring in 
the derailleur. If that's the case, try lubricating the cable housing and any 
cable guides with a thin lubricant like TriFlow. 

Finally, if you're getting even shifting in one part of the cassette but not in 
another, your derailleur hanger might be slightly bent. Any good LBS should 
have the Park hanger alignment gauge, which checks to make sure that hanger 
threads are perpendicular to the plane of the wheel (and thus the cogs). With 
most frames, especially steel ones, you can also use the gauge to slightly 
cold-set the hanger into proper alignment, although if it's a badly bent 
replaceable aluminum hanger cold-setting in back might crack it. 

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:23:33 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: 

I stopped using indexed shifting about ten years ago, and reverted to friction, 
which seemed to require less fussing, at least in the shimano version. Now I 
have a tandem with shimano BE's, which was set up by a bike shop. Perhaps one 
of you who works with this stuff regularly can offer some guidance. 


The rear shifting worked quite well but it took me 2 1/2 years to get the front 
end shifting predictably (for those of you who have never ridden a tandem, 
front end shifting is a very different animal). While fixing the front end, 
which now works perfectly, I replaced the much too big Deore XT RD with an 
Ultegra 6700 GS, and can't seem to get it to work quite right. The limit screws 
are good, as is the B screw, and the cable tension feels quite high. The 
indexed shifter lifts the chain fine from the outside all the way up to the 
inside (28) cog; but when I start down it will hang up between the 1 & 2 
position, then jump two cogs on the next click; it then hangs between 7 & 6, 
and jumps 2 cogs to 5. After that it is OK, except for that indexing hesitation 
which I hate. The chain (wipperman 908) has just a few hundred miles on it and 
the cassette (11-28 HG) is new. 


Right now, I have reverted to friction which seems to be working fine, but 
would like to get the dang index to behave! 


Michael 

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell sittings yesterday, Markleeville Death Ride - was it you?

[jimD]

You can find great ice cream after coming off of Ebbets prior to climbing 
Carson.  Knowing this I'm no longer tempted to shoot for the five passes.
The draw is just too strong.  

These days the most climbing I'm doing is up Monetbello road to Black Mtn in 
the Santa Cruz montains. I know the way to Peets when I come down from there.

-JimD

On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:11 PM, reynoldslugs  wrote:

> 
> Jim and Addison -
> 
> I did see one fellow on a really nice looking Gunnar, perhaps it was you - - 
> it was a relatively new Gunnar, I think it was white with the new style of 
> decal.  I might be wrong about the color (I was pretty popped when I saw it), 
> I just remember thinking it was a very classy looking bike.
> 
> As for ice cream and Carson Pass, sometimes it's just the thought of the ice 
> cream (traditionally given out at the top of the pass) that keeps me going.
> 
> I only did two passes this year - - I spent the last two weeks before the 
> ride in Berlin and Munich eating German food and drinking German beer (Zero 
> riding), and got off a 13 hour transatlantic flight exactly 36 hours before 
> the ride.  Not what anyone would call smart training - - so I stuck with the 
> front side of Monitor and the front side of Ebbets, for about 6k' over 50 
> miles.  I'll do better next year.
> 
> The ride, even a short version, is an epic, magnificent day.  The locals turn 
> out in droves and cheer the riders - - literally the full population of 
> Markleeville sits on the court house lawn and cheers the riders.
> 
> Still looking for the owner of that pretty Rivendell road that passed me 
> ascending Ebbets.  Very nice deep emerald green.
> 
> Max
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[RBW] Re: Mille Miglia on Vitorria Randonneur Hyper 700 x 38

[dougP]

I'll sure pay attention next time David advises knobbies!  

dougP

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:06:21 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> I think the A719 is wider than 22mm  Doug. I have the A319's and it 
> measures 25mm on the outside. I think the A719 is the same.
>
> Good review on that tire.They are well liked from all I've read.   Maybe 
> you should try some knobbies for your next test?
>
> ~mike
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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 cm Atlantis 2150.00

[Tony McG]

*It's mine !!!*

I met Jim in Hannibal, MO this morning and bought his Atlantis.  The frame 
is a 2009 Toyo built with a kickstand plate and braze-ons everywhere.  I 
have it locked up in the garage and I am not going to look at it until I 
get back from RAGBRAI; there is a little devil on my shoulder telling me to 
pull the necessary parts off of my other bikes and riding the Riv instead 
of the San Marcos next weekend.

Thanks for posting this, Kelly !!!

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/WFRTony/DSCN0912.jpg

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:40:06 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
>
> Ok here are e photos and contact info.  This is not my bike and I get 
> nothing if sold or not.
> This thing is pristine and would pass for new.  He wants 2000 without 
> wheels.
>
> Freight is Not included
>
> Photos
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157634579220753/
>
> Contact
> mcclur...@att.net 
> James McClure
>
> Kelly
>
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[RBW] Re: Second Breakfast (ride report)

[dougP]

I especially love the thought "Sugar & caffiene, everything you want; 
nothing you need."  

dougP

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:59:45 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>
> Because I know some of you enjoy ride reports, here's one...
>
> http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2013/07/13/second-breakfast-micro-tour/
>
> To be honest, it's more about what happens between pedaling sessions.  But 
> I rode my A. Homer Hilsen 40+ miles, over delightful paved and non-paved 
> roads, so this could happen.  It's hot in Texas, but somehow we manage.
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell sittings yesterday, Markleeville Death Ride - was it you?

[Addison Wilhite]

I posted a few photos of the ride.  I noticed after loading them off my
phone that all but one were from the monitor climbs.  That probably says
more about my status on the DR at that point than anything else.  I think
the last one in this selection is from Ebbett's.  I did take a few photos
last Wednesday when I did a trial run up Ebbett's which capture the beauty
better (although none of the photos will do it justice).  I'm kind of
convinced that I won't be doing Carson (the final pass) anymore as much
because that is the one pass that they don't close down from auto traffic.
 It just isn't very pleasant and not quite as pretty as the others.

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2013/07/2013-death-ride-few-photos.html

Cheers,


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM, jimD  wrote:

> You can find great ice cream after coming off of Ebbets prior to climbing
> Carson.  Knowing this I'm no longer tempted to shoot for the five passes.
> The draw is just too strong.
>
> These days the most climbing I'm doing is up Monetbello road to Black Mtn
> in the Santa Cruz montains. I know the way to Peets when I come down from
> there.
>
> -JimD
>
> On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:11 PM, reynoldslugs  wrote:
>
>
> Jim and Addison -
>
> I did see one fellow on a really nice looking Gunnar, perhaps it was you -
> - it was a relatively new Gunnar, I think it was white with the new style
> of decal.  I might be wrong about the color (I was pretty popped when I saw
> it), I just remember thinking it was a very classy looking bike.
>
> As for ice cream and Carson Pass, sometimes it's just the thought of the
> ice cream (traditionally given out at the top of the pass) that keeps me
> going.
>
> I only did two passes this year - - I spent the last two weeks before the
> ride in Berlin and Munich eating German food and drinking German beer (Zero
> riding), and got off a 13 hour transatlantic flight exactly 36 hours before
> the ride.  Not what anyone would call smart training - - so I stuck with
> the front side of Monitor and the front side of Ebbets, for about 6k' over
> 50 miles.  I'll do better next year.
>
> The ride, even a short version, is an epic, magnificent day.  The locals
> turn out in droves and cheer the riders - - literally the full population
> of Markleeville sits on the court house lawn and cheers the riders.
>
> Still looking for the owner of that pretty Rivendell road that passed me
> ascending Ebbets.  Very nice deep emerald green.
>
> Max
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[RBW] FT: Nitto Dynamic Stem for a Technomic

[Johnny Alien]

I have a brand new Dynamic stem.  I purchased it thinking I didn't need a 
really long stem but it turns out that I probably need a little more 
height.  This was only inserted into the headtube once so there are no 
marks and it is as new.  I would like to trade it for a longer Nitto like 
the Technomic or similar.  Preferably the stem would be in nice shape as 
well.  If you don't need a super long stem than this one is beautiful and 
will save you a few precious ounces. :)

Here is the one I have.

http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222367745/125/Nitto-Dynamic-Road-Quill.html

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell sittings yesterday, Markleeville Death Ride - was it you?

[reynoldslugs]

Addison, after looking at your pictures, I'm pretty that was you I saw - - 
light blue (not white) Gunnar.  That is a really nice looking bike.  Do you 
have any other shots of the bike posted somewhere?

Max

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:15:17 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:
>
> I posted a few photos of the ride.  I noticed after loading them off my 
> phone that all but one were from the monitor climbs.  That probably says 
> more about my status on the DR at that point than anything else.  I think 
> the last one in this selection is from Ebbett's.  I did take a few photos 
> last Wednesday when I did a trial run up Ebbett's which capture the beauty 
> better (although none of the photos will do it justice).  I'm kind of 
> convinced that I won't be doing Carson (the final pass) anymore as much 
> because that is the one pass that they don't close down from auto traffic. 
>  It just isn't very pleasant and not quite as pretty as the others.
>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2013/07/2013-death-ride-few-photos.html
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM, jimD  >wrote:
>
>> You can find great ice cream after coming off of Ebbets prior to climbing 
>> Carson.  Knowing this I'm no longer tempted to shoot for the five passes.
>> The draw is just too strong.  
>>
>> These days the most climbing I'm doing is up Monetbello road to Black Mtn 
>> in the Santa Cruz montains. I know the way to Peets when I come down from 
>> there.
>>
>> -JimD
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:11 PM, reynoldslugs > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Jim and Addison -
>>
>> I did see one fellow on a really nice looking Gunnar, perhaps it was you 
>> - - it was a relatively new Gunnar, I think it was white with the new style 
>> of decal.  I might be wrong about the color (I was pretty popped when I saw 
>> it), I just remember thinking it was a very classy looking bike.
>>
>> As for ice cream and Carson Pass, sometimes it's just the thought of the 
>> ice cream (traditionally given out at the top of the pass) that keeps me 
>> going.
>>
>> I only did two passes this year - - I spent the last two weeks before the 
>> ride in Berlin and Munich eating German food and drinking German beer (Zero 
>> riding), and got off a 13 hour transatlantic flight exactly 36 hours before 
>> the ride.  Not what anyone would call smart training - - so I stuck with 
>> the front side of Monitor and the front side of Ebbets, for about 6k' over 
>> 50 miles.  I'll do better next year.
>>
>> The ride, even a short version, is an epic, magnificent day.  The locals 
>> turn out in droves and cheer the riders - - literally the full population 
>> of Markleeville sits on the court house lawn and cheers the riders.
>>
>> Still looking for the owner of that pretty Rivendell road that passed me 
>> ascending Ebbets.  Very nice deep emerald green.
>>
>> Max
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 cm Atlantis 2150.00

[dougP]

Tony:

Congratulations on the new bike.  Racks & bottle cages & you'll be ready to 
roll.  It would tempting to take this to Iowa but I can see how you'd like 
to do that event on a bike you've spent enough time on.  Plus, now you've 
got a new project when you return.  

dougP

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:08:37 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:
>
> *It's mine !!!*
>
> I met Jim in Hannibal, MO this morning and bought his Atlantis.  The frame 
> is a 2009 Toyo built with a kickstand plate and braze-ons everywhere.  I 
> have it locked up in the garage and I am not going to look at it until I 
> get back from RAGBRAI; there is a little devil on my shoulder telling me to 
> pull the necessary parts off of my other bikes and riding the Riv instead 
> of the San Marcos next weekend.
>
> Thanks for posting this, Kelly !!!
>
> http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/WFRTony/DSCN0912.jpg
>
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:40:06 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
>>
>> Ok here are e photos and contact info.  This is not my bike and I get 
>> nothing if sold or not.
>> This thing is pristine and would pass for new.  He wants 2000 without 
>> wheels.
>>
>> Freight is Not included
>>
>> Photos
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157634579220753/
>>
>> Contact
>> mcclur...@att.net
>> James McClure
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto, Paul, Nigel Smythe, Swift, Gripking, Brand V, Bruce Gordon, Cateye, Tektro, etc.

[Mike On A Bike]

Hey y'all, I'm having a long overdue garage sale for some of my underused 
equipage. The prices listed are simply what I think their worth, and I'm 
open to offers. Most of the items listed here have a picture or two in this 
photo album . I may add a few more things to this 
listing and I'll try to post pictures for everything. 

All items will have an at-cost shipping fee added. Please contact me 
off-list if your're interested, thanks!

2011 Tweed Big Loafer: Used regularly for about a year and has some 
beausage on the leather and scotchlite, but in pretty nice shape still. $90

2011 Tweed Keven's Bag: Same deal, beausage on the leather and overall in 
good used condition. $70

Late 2012 Swift Industries "Little Dear" w/ tweed flap: Nice smallish 
saddle bag, with waxed cotton fabric and recycled tweed flap. Vinyl lining 
and very waterproof, capacity is about 400 cubic inches, I think. Only 
flaws are staining on the bottom from rubbing against my rack, and some 
stains inside. $45

2010 Tan Canvas Big Loafer: In pretty good shape, though it has a small 
hole on one side, and only one of the zippers works (but it works 
perfectly). $30

Brand V Handlebar Bag: Only briefly used, with only issue being a stain and 
two small holes on underside from rubbing a rack. Zippers work great. $25

2012 Nitto R-14 Top Rack: Some minor scratches here and there, but in very 
good condition. Stays are in original uncut condition. $90

Paul Flatbed Rack w/ stem clamp extension: Bought in 2012 and used for 
about 3 months. Has some scratches on front corners of tubing. Includes 
stem clamp extension kit, which fit my 64cm Sam Hillborne perfectly. $120

Cateye Strada Wireless Cycling Computer: Brand new and in the box 2013 
model. $40

Bruce Gordon "Bullet" LED Taillight in black: Bought in 2012 and never even 
used it it! Mounts into an eyelet and has steady and flash modes operated 
by pressing LED. $30

MKS Gripking Pedals: One brand new pair for $40 and two used pairs with 
scratches and whatnot for $20/ea. 

Paul Components "Canti-Combo": One pair of Neo-Retro brakes (front) and one 
pair of the Touring model, both in silver anodized. $75 for the set. 

Tektro CR-720 Brakes: Came with my Quickbeam and used amply, but still in 
good shape. $25.

Shimano Tiagra Levers: Also came with my Quickbeam and still in decent 
shape. $25

Tektro R-538 Extra Long Reach Brakes: Bought for a Resurrectio project from 
Velo Orange and used briefly. Also, filed away a small amount of material 
on underside of the front brake because a tire wouldn't clear, but didn't 
do any serious damage. Hardware has some rust, otherwise pretty good 
condition. $35 for the set. 

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[RBW] FS: 3 short sleeve wool shirts

[Vic]

For some reason I have been hoarding wool shirts over the last couple of 
years.  It may have something to do with having absolutely fallen in love 
with the stuff.  Weird thing is, because it doesn't need to be washed very 
often, I actually don't need that much.  I decided to sell off a few, and I 
wanted to give ROB a shot before eBay.  I took the pictures kind of crumply 
in a fit of art-y-ness to replicate some of the riv pics, but now I regret 
it.

The first is a blue short sleeve from RBW.  Its one of the New Zealand ones 
and very similar to the one they're selling now.  I would say its like the 
steel blue, but it has a back pocket and drop tail like the cobalt ones. 
 It is a slightly heavier fabric.  I would say closer to a 200 than a 150, 
but not quite a 260.  Its in perfect shape, used 2-3 times I think.  Listed 
as a size large, but I wear a M and its a perfect fit.  I would say its 
good for a chest size of 40-ish.

Blue - $25 plus shipping
http://db.tt/pp3QpxsH
http://db.tt/pEMhzEe6

The "Salmon" one is also from RBW, from the Merino Skins vendor.  SOme of 
you may remember they had a sale a while back because they ordered red but 
it came out closer to salmon.  I'm attaching picks, but its less pink in 
real life than in the pics.  To me it looks like the "coral" color that 
everyone is wearing these days, maybe a little less orange.  Take that with 
a grain of salt, I am notoriously bad at describing color.  This one is 
larger than the blue.  Wearable by someone who wears a medium, but i would 
say its closer to what generally gets sold as a large now.  Maybe a chest 
of 42-44-ish?  Its a 150 weight, which is really light and perfect for hot 
weather.  Full disclosure, this one has 4 of the tiny little holes that 
wool can sometimes get.  It has no logo, pocket, raglan sleeves, or any 
other funny business.  Because of the holes and the slightly odd color 
(maybe you'll love it?) this one is cheaper.  Great intro to wool if you 
never wanted to spend the money.

Salmon - $15
http://db.tt/2YRCwjPK

The grey one is actually from a brand called Wickers. Its 50% Merino and 
50% Viscose.  That latter one sounds synthetic, but if you've ever talked 
to Grant about it, you'll know its not.  Viscose comes from beech wood and 
its super soft.  This one seems to have all of the benefits of wool.  To be 
honest, I can't tell the difference. Its never smelled on me, but YMMV. 
 Its a light weight, like a 150, and great for hot weather.  No pockets, 
raglan, logos or funny business.  Its roomier and boxier than the blue one, 
more like the Salmon one, but a little shorter.  Would fit a "medium" 
person well and if you're a little stockier by "medium" height, it'll be 
perfect.  No blemishes, but its not 100% wool, so its also on the cheaper 
side.

Grey - $15
http://db.tt/RnWNKSQP

Private message or email me or whatever if you're interested.  If you're a 
few dollars off, make an offer.  I'm opened minded.   I'll be sensitive to 
shipping requests (i.e. fast or cheap, whatever you prefer).   

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[RBW] Re: Mille Miglia on Vitorria Randonneur Hyper 700 x 38

[Brian Campbell]

I run the 35mm Hyper rando on my AHH. Love them. I am using Mavic Open Pro 
rims and they measure a true 35mm @ 80psi.

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:03:55 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>
> I'll sure pay attention next time David advises knobbies!  
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:06:21 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> I think the A719 is wider than 22mm  Doug. I have the A319's and it 
>> measures 25mm on the outside. I think the A719 is the same.
>>
>> Good review on that tire.They are well liked from all I've read.   Maybe 
>> you should try some knobbies for your next test?
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 cm Atlantis 2150.00

[Kelly]

Fantastic Tony!  It's a beautiful bike.








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> It's mine !!!
> 
> 
> I met Jim in Hannibal, MO this morning and bought his Atlantis.  The frame is 
> a 2009 Toyo built with a kickstand plate and braze-ons everywhere.  I have it 
> locked up in the garage and I am not going to look at it until I get back 
> from RAGBRAI; there is a little devil on my shoulder telling me to pull the 
> necessary parts off of my other bikes and riding the Riv instead of the San 
> Marcos next weekend.
> 
> 
> Thanks for posting this, Kelly !!!
> 
> 
> http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/WFRTony/DSCN0912.jpg
> 
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:40:06 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:Ok here are e 
> photos and contact info.  This is not my bike and I get nothing if sold or 
> not.
> This thing is pristine and would pass for new.  He wants 2000 without wheels.
> Freight is Not included
> Photos
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157634579220753/
> Contact
> mcclur...@att.net
> James McClure
> Kelly

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Re: [RBW] FS: 3 short sleeve wool shirts

[Dan McNamara]

On Jul 14, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Vic  wrote:

> For some reason I have been hoarding wool shirts over the last couple of 
> years.  It may have something to do with having absolutely fallen in love 
> with the stuff.  Weird thing is, because it doesn't need to be washed very 
> often, I actually don't need that much.  I decided to sell off a few, and I 
> wanted to give ROB a shot before eBay.  I took the pictures kind of crumply 
> in a fit of art-y-ness to replicate some of the riv pics, but now I regret it.
> 
> The first is a blue short sleeve from RBW.  Its one of the New Zealand ones 
> and very similar to the one they're selling now.  I would say its like the 
> steel blue, but it has a back pocket and drop tail like the cobalt ones.  It 
> is a slightly heavier fabric.  I would say closer to a 200 than a 150, but 
> not quite a 260.  Its in perfect shape, used 2-3 times I think.  Listed as a 
> size large, but I wear a M and its a perfect fit.  I would say its good for a 
> chest size of 40-ish.
> 
> Blue - $25 plus shipping
> http://db.tt/pp3QpxsH
> http://db.tt/pEMhzEe6
> 
> The "Salmon" one is also from RBW, from the Merino Skins vendor.  SOme of you 
> may remember they had a sale a while back because they ordered red but it 
> came out closer to salmon.  I'm attaching picks, but its less pink in real 
> life than in the pics.  To me it looks like the "coral" color that everyone 
> is wearing these days, maybe a little less orange.  Take that with a grain of 
> salt, I am notoriously bad at describing color.  This one is larger than the 
> blue.  Wearable by someone who wears a medium, but i would say its closer to 
> what generally gets sold as a large now.  Maybe a chest of 42-44-ish?  Its a 
> 150 weight, which is really light and perfect for hot weather.  Full 
> disclosure, this one has 4 of the tiny little holes that wool can sometimes 
> get.  It has no logo, pocket, raglan sleeves, or any other funny business.  
> Because of the holes and the slightly odd color (maybe you'll love it?) this 
> one is cheaper.  Great intro to wool if you never wanted to spend the money.
> 
> Salmon - $15
> http://db.tt/2YRCwjPK
> 
> The grey one is actually from a brand called Wickers. Its 50% Merino and 50% 
> Viscose.  That latter one sounds synthetic, but if you've ever talked to 
> Grant about it, you'll know its not.  Viscose comes from beech wood and its 
> super soft.  This one seems to have all of the benefits of wool.  To be 
> honest, I can't tell the difference. Its never smelled on me, but YMMV.  Its 
> a light weight, like a 150, and great for hot weather.  No pockets, raglan, 
> logos or funny business.  Its roomier and boxier than the blue one, more like 
> the Salmon one, but a little shorter.  Would fit a "medium" person well and 
> if you're a little stockier by "medium" height, it'll be perfect.  No 
> blemishes, but its not 100% wool, so its also on the cheaper side.
> 
> Grey - $15
> http://db.tt/RnWNKSQP
> 
> Private message or email me or whatever if you're interested.  If you're a 
> few dollars off, make an offer.  I'm opened minded.   I'll be sensitive to 
> shipping requests (i.e. fast or cheap, whatever you prefer).   
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Campee Front Rack

[kris]

https://picasaweb.google.com/117970270819316025970/NittoCampeeFrontRack?authkey=Gv1sRgCJjP-ouZt5_rbA
This is the one with the removable lowrider supports.  I attached mine to 
my Saluki's mid-fork braze-ons, but it comes with cantilever mounts too. 
 $200 shipped to lower 48.
Kris

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[RBW] FS Newish Medium Sackville Saddlesack(Olive)

[David Hwang]

Hey RBW'ers I have a newish-never-really-used-except-once Medium Sackville 
Saddlesack in olive for sale. I purchased this sack last September and 
tried it out once on my daily commute and found it was too much sack for 
me...I often lock up on a daily basis in SF and know it would eventually 
get stolen.

I have since opted for a rear basket and it's perfect for my daily use. The 
sack has been sadly sitting in my kitchen acting as an extra-parts storage 
box. It's a great bag that can hold a ton of stuff (I was able to stuff a 
sleeping bag and a thermarest pad into it with ease) with great 
build/material quality.

Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhwang217/sets/72157634638306293/

Asking price is $150 plus shipping, payments accepted through paypal. 
Contact me at dhwang217 at gmail

Thanks!
David

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[RBW] Betty Foy Picnic Bike

[blakcloud]

I finally picked up the Betty Foy frame and brought it back to Toronto and 
built it up for my wife. I quickly put it together for the maiden voyage 
but it does need a few more items and of course tweaked.  

My wife doesn't care about bikes at all. She keeps a mama-chari in Japan 
for transportation and rides a Trek hybrid with me on the weekends. 
Typically we ride along the bike trails and have picnics. Last year I 
bought us Bromptons thinking this was all we needed for the weekend rides 
but the Bromptons are really horrible riding bikes and so that was an 
experiment that went wrong. This year I decided to build what I call our 
picnic bikes. My attempt at converting a bike I had to a picnic bike was 
not successful, long story of why but not RBW Owners Bunch material. For 
her I wanted to get a step through frame and the Betty Foy was the way to 
go. 

The maiden voyage was a success. She loves the bike. From the look of the 
frame, the Albatross bars and the Hetre tires were all commented on. 

http://s283.photobucket.com/user/blakcloud60/media/Betty%20Foy/BettyFoy024_zps7849af2d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

There are four photos to browse. (I hope the link works)

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[RBW] Re: Tuning up indexing, a little OT

[Bill Lucas]

Michael,

I just fixed the shifting issues with my BMC Monster Cross, which is a 3 x 
9.  The chain was cut for another bike and was 2 links ( 1 pair) too short 
per the instructions from Shimano.  The shifting worked, but you had to 
fuss with the smaller cassette cogs.  It was better on the road than the 
stand.  I installed a new chain of the same model (KMC 9.99) with 2 more 
links and shifting is dialed in.  The change is very noticeable. So check 
the chain length per the instructions for your model of derailleur.

Regards,
Bill Lucas
Watsonville, CA

On Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:23:33 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I stopped using indexed shifting about ten years ago, and reverted to 
> friction, which seemed to require less fussing, at least in the shimano 
> version.  Now I have a tandem with shimano BE's, which was set up by a bike 
> shop. Perhaps one of you who works with this stuff regularly can offer some 
> guidance.
>
> The rear shifting worked quite well but it took me 2 1/2 years to get the 
> front end shifting predictably (for those of you who have never ridden a 
> tandem, front end shifting is a very different animal).  While fixing the 
> front end, which now works perfectly, I replaced the much too big Deore XT 
> RD with an Ultegra 6700 GS, and can't seem to get it to work quite right. 
>  The limit screws are good, as is the B screw,  and the cable tension feels 
> quite high.  The indexed shifter lifts the chain fine from the outside all 
> the way up to the inside (28) cog; but when I start down it will hang up 
> between the 1 & 2 position, then jump two cogs on the next click; it then 
> hangs between 7 & 6, and jumps 2 cogs to 5.  After that it is OK, except 
> for that indexing hesitation which I hate.  The chain (wipperman 908) has 
> just a few hundred miles on it and the cassette (11-28 HG) is new.
>
> Right now, I have reverted to friction which seems to be working fine, but 
> would like to get the dang index to behave!
>
> Michael
>

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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy Picnic Bike

[Peter Morgano]

All smiles, they way a bike ride should be. Awesome to see.


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:00 PM, blakcloud  wrote:

> I finally picked up the Betty Foy frame and brought it back to Toronto and
> built it up for my wife. I quickly put it together for the maiden voyage
> but it does need a few more items and of course tweaked.
>
> My wife doesn't care about bikes at all. She keeps a mama-chari in Japan
> for transportation and rides a Trek hybrid with me on the weekends.
> Typically we ride along the bike trails and have picnics. Last year I
> bought us Bromptons thinking this was all we needed for the weekend rides
> but the Bromptons are really horrible riding bikes and so that was an
> experiment that went wrong. This year I decided to build what I call our
> picnic bikes. My attempt at converting a bike I had to a picnic bike was
> not successful, long story of why but not RBW Owners Bunch material. For
> her I wanted to get a step through frame and the Betty Foy was the way to
> go.
>
> The maiden voyage was a success. She loves the bike. From the look of the
> frame, the Albatross bars and the Hetre tires were all commented on.
>
>
> http://s283.photobucket.com/user/blakcloud60/media/Betty%20Foy/BettyFoy024_zps7849af2d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
>
> There are four photos to browse. (I hope the link works)
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[RBW] Re: Second Breakfast (ride report)

[Manuel Acosta]

Hammocks are amazing. trying to sell the idea to a couple of buddies of 
mine but they like their tents. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, Paul, Nigel Smythe, Swift, Gripking, Brand V, Bruce Gordon, Cateye, Tektro, etc.

[pcb]

 Hi Mike, if I'm not too late, though I'll assume I am, I'd like to 
buy your Paul canti brakes. IMHO they perform very nicely, they also 
have the best possible name. Can paypal straightaway, please let me 
know if I got lucky. 
Cheers,

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

Quoting Mike On A Bike :

  Hey y'all, I'm having a long overdue garage sale for some of my 
underused equipage. The prices listed are simply what I think their 
worth, and I'm open to offers. Most of the items listed here have a 
picture or two in this photo album. I may add a few more things to this 
listing and I'll try to post pictures for everything. 
All items will have an at-cost shipping fee added. Please contact me 
off-list if your're interested, thanks!


Paul Components "Canti-Combo": One pair of Neo-Retro brakes (front) and 
one pair of the Touring model, both in silver anodized. $75 for the set. 
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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy Picnic Bike

[LeahFoy]

Oh, let's do see more photos of the pair of them! It's not so common to see 
photos of "my" bike and I just love seeing how other ladies love theirs and how 
they have set them up. Please tell us more about how she likes her bike. Even 
if one "doesn't care about bikes at all" one would still fall in love with a 
Betty Foy. How can we help ourselves? Enjoy!

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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy Picnic Bike

[LeahFoy]

Oh, let's do see more photos of the pair of them! It's not so common to see 
photos of "my" bike and I just love seeing how other ladies love theirs and how 
they have set them up. Please tell us more about how she likes her bike. Even 
if one "doesn't care about bikes at all" one would still fall in love with a 
Betty Foy. How can we help ourselves? Enjoy!

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[RBW] Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

[Michael]

On the upstroke, does your knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends? Like 
a line drawn from one bar end to another.
 
Just curious to see how roomy everyone's Alba set up is.
 
My knees break the plane. I feel I have plenty of room though and I 
wouldn't want to get the bars any further away.
 
I have the bars high enough that they are above my legs, unless I do a 
really slow circle turn, then the ends tend to run into my thighs. But no 
biggie. I really like sitting upright and seeing the sky when I ride. 
Pretty sights.

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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy Picnic Bike

[Michael]

>
> Awesome bike and looks comfy for her. I have my Alba bars up high, too. 
> Thanks for the pics.

 
 
I would love to get my wife a Betty but she doesn't want one. I keep 
raising the issue. I think she would love the easy shifting with the Silver 
shifters and the shape of the Alba bars. Wish I could get her off the 
Raleigh. Maybe I'll lower my Sam saddle and let her try it out for 
reference.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 3 short sleeve wool shirts

[Vic]

All taken.  Thanks!

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:42:54 PM UTC-7, Vic wrote:
>
> For some reason I have been hoarding wool shirts over the last couple of 
> years.  It may have something to do with having absolutely fallen in love 
> with the stuff.  Weird thing is, because it doesn't need to be washed very 
> often, I actually don't need that much.  I decided to sell off a few, and I 
> wanted to give ROB a shot before eBay.  I took the pictures kind of crumply 
> in a fit of art-y-ness to replicate some of the riv pics, but now I regret 
> it.
>
> The first is a blue short sleeve from RBW.  Its one of the New Zealand 
> ones and very similar to the one they're selling now.  I would say its like 
> the steel blue, but it has a back pocket and drop tail like the cobalt 
> ones.  It is a slightly heavier fabric.  I would say closer to a 200 than a 
> 150, but not quite a 260.  Its in perfect shape, used 2-3 times I think. 
>  Listed as a size large, but I wear a M and its a perfect fit.  I would say 
> its good for a chest size of 40-ish.
>
> Blue - $25 plus shipping
> http://db.tt/pp3QpxsH
> http://db.tt/pEMhzEe6
>
> The "Salmon" one is also from RBW, from the Merino Skins vendor.  SOme of 
> you may remember they had a sale a while back because they ordered red but 
> it came out closer to salmon.  I'm attaching picks, but its less pink in 
> real life than in the pics.  To me it looks like the "coral" color that 
> everyone is wearing these days, maybe a little less orange.  Take that with 
> a grain of salt, I am notoriously bad at describing color.  This one is 
> larger than the blue.  Wearable by someone who wears a medium, but i would 
> say its closer to what generally gets sold as a large now.  Maybe a chest 
> of 42-44-ish?  Its a 150 weight, which is really light and perfect for hot 
> weather.  Full disclosure, this one has 4 of the tiny little holes that 
> wool can sometimes get.  It has no logo, pocket, raglan sleeves, or any 
> other funny business.  Because of the holes and the slightly odd color 
> (maybe you'll love it?) this one is cheaper.  Great intro to wool if you 
> never wanted to spend the money.
>
> Salmon - $15
> http://db.tt/2YRCwjPK
>
> The grey one is actually from a brand called Wickers. Its 50% Merino and 
> 50% Viscose.  That latter one sounds synthetic, but if you've ever talked 
> to Grant about it, you'll know its not.  Viscose comes from beech wood and 
> its super soft.  This one seems to have all of the benefits of wool.  To be 
> honest, I can't tell the difference. Its never smelled on me, but YMMV. 
>  Its a light weight, like a 150, and great for hot weather.  No pockets, 
> raglan, logos or funny business.  Its roomier and boxier than the blue one, 
> more like the Salmon one, but a little shorter.  Would fit a "medium" 
> person well and if you're a little stockier by "medium" height, it'll be 
> perfect.  No blemishes, but its not 100% wool, so its also on the cheaper 
> side.
>
> Grey - $15
> http://db.tt/RnWNKSQP
>
> Private message or email me or whatever if you're interested.  If you're a 
> few dollars off, make an offer.  I'm opened minded.   I'll be sensitive to 
> shipping requests (i.e. fast or cheap, whatever you prefer).   
>

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