[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes is back

[William]

Twelve bikes.  Three have a Mark's Rack in front, and all three of those 
have the double struts mod.  I like it.  

On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:01:38 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> A new page with staff bikes:  http://www.rivbike.com/Staff-Bikes-s/766.htm 
>

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[RBW] Re: I am a (sometimes) enthusiastic but mediocre bike mechanic

[Frank Brose]

My mistake. I meant blue. I do know the difference as I use them both.
Mike is correct. Confusion. I get that after a couple of beers
sometimes.

On Feb 2, 8:40 pm, M D Smith  wrote:
> On Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:44:14 PM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> > I use shorter rack screws, lock washers and red loctite. Haven't lost
> > one yet.
>
> To which I reply:
>
> I would strongly recommend NOT using RED Loctite.  You want to be using the
> BLUE on just about anything on a bicycle.*
>
> Red is permanent and usually requires heat (like from a torch) to remove.
> The blue is temporary and allows parts to be removed with simple hand
> tools.  You might even look into Loctite purple for small bolts.  I think
> they recommend it for nuts/bolts less than 6mm.
>
> Note:  ALL LOCTITE PRODUCTS COME IN RED TUBES!!!  IT IS THE COLOR OF THE
> LIQUID THAT MATTERS!!!
>
> *  Loctite red can be used to screw fixed cogs on to non-track hubs.  i.e.
> It is strong enough to be used in lieu of a locknut.  That's really really
> strong!!!
>
> Cheers- Mike in Htfd CT

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[RBW] Re: The Roadeo is different from the Ram/AHH (long post)

[Michael Hechmer]

I have never found a difference in turning to be particularly important. 
 As long as the bike behaves predictably, I, and most experienced riders, 
will quickly adapt.  I find slow vs high speed stability to be more 
significant.  I loved commuting on my Ebisu All Purpose with 38c tires 
because it has phenomenal slow speed stability.  My commute ended with a 
mile plus of 10% +  climb on a narrow, busy urban street.  The Ebisu would 
easily go straight up as buses and trucks went by me. Thank you, thank you! 
 And I could effortlessly roll ever so slowly up to a light, no gymnastics 
required.  That trait is much better than the Ram with 28mm tires.  But at 
hi speed coming down a mountain the Ram offers stability and exhilaration 
that the Ebisu just can't match.

Michael

On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:37:50 AM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote:
>
> There have been posts recently questioning the differences between the 
> Roadeo and other Rivendell models. I am fortunate enough to own a 
> Rambouillet and A Homer Hilsen.  To this mix of bikes, I added the 
> Roadeo.  I have also ridden my wife’s Betty Foy. 
>
> To cut to the chase, I can definitively say that the Roadeo handles 
> differently than the Ram and the AHH.  I would say the Ram and AHH are 
> much more similar to each other than the Roadeo is to either of them. 
>
> I will describe my feel of the bikes so that perhaps we can have a 
> common language or maybe an understanding of how I describe the 
> handling of the bikes. 
> Every Riv I’ve ridden feels very stable, yet responsive. The 
> responsiveness I refer to is in the shift of weight from side to side. 
> If I’m going into a right turn, I can twist my hip to the right and 
> the bike immediately responds into a turn—I basically don’t have to 
> turn the handlebars to initiate a turn.  Anyone who has ridden no 
> handed through turns knows what I’m talking about.  You obviously 
> can’t turn the handlebars because you are riding no-handed.  You just 
> twist/lean to the side and the bike turns.  All bikes in the Riv line, 
> I can make a weight adjustment and easily turn, so for side-to-side 
> changes in weight, there is immediate response and a sprightly 
> responsiveness that I don’t get from other bikes. 
>
> The responsiveness in terms of steering input is quite different on my 
> array of Rivendells and bikes I’ve ridden in general.  For the Betty 
> Foy, to me, twisting the handlebars really has minimal effect on 
> leaning the bike.  If I had coaster brakes and downtube shifters on 
> the Betty, I bet I could spin the handlebars 360 degrees (while nearly 
> stopped) and have no problem staying upright. 
>
> In contrast, on my “racing-style” steel bike, if I turned my 
> handlebars too much, the bike would flop over and I’d be on the 
> ground.  In fact, one of my few falls involved a nearly zero mph fall 
> where a bottle slipped from my hand and I tried to grab it, but the 
> handlebar twisted a bit and I went falling. 
>
> OK, for the Ram and AHH, I would say they are relatively insensitive 
> to steering input compared to my racing-style bike mentioned above 
> (but more sensitive than the Betty Foy).  The forgiveness in the 
> steering is one of the aspects that make the Ram and AHH great 
> randonneuring bikes, for example.  I don’t have to worry that a little 
> wobble will put me on the ground. I don’t have to worry that some 
> weight in the handlebar bag will affect handling because I don’t use 
> the handlebars much to turn anyways; I turn by shifting my weight and 
> turning my hips. 
>
> If you count on turning with the handlebars, then these bikes may feel 
> “sluggish” to you because in my opinion, the Riv responsiveness is to 
> side-to-side weight changes and not as much in handlebar input. At 
> least that springy side-to-side responsiveness has held for every Riv 
> bike I’ve ridden. 
>
> --OK, what about the Roadeo? 
>
> The Roadeo (for me and my bike size) is much more responsive to 
> handlebar input compared to the Ram and AHH.  However, in contrast to 
> my racing style bike where I had to be on edge or I could crash, this 
> bike feels extremely stable. I don’t know the technical details, but 
> Grant lays out some in his description of designing bikes for smaller 
> riders. All of those details sound good, and Grant/Mark got the ride 
> right for the Roadeo. 
>
> The best I can describe it is that the bike really carves into the 
> turn with the handlebar input. It’s like the difference between power 
> steering on curves where you can’t really feel the road, versus a 
> manual steering car where you can feel the road and feel the traction. 
> There’s just that kind of comforting grip on the road that you can 
> feel and control on the bike—very nice!!! On the other hand, there is 
> little danger of me over-turning of the handlebars causing a flop of 
> the bike onto the ground.  It’s still very stable in that regard. 
>
> Does the Roadeo replace any of my other Riv 

[RBW] Re: I am a (sometimes) enthusiastic but mediocre bike mechanic

[Montclair BobbyB]

Jay:

Ah... but you possess the key quality of a true Jedi mechanic... You are 
FEARLESS!!!

I had a true Jedi mechanic once tell me:

Never let the bicycle see you sweat,
Make your adjustments swift, purposeful and with conviction,
Failure is only temporary, be persistent,
And most important... 

NEVER USE SH*TTY TOOLS...

May the force be with you.

BB

On Saturday, February 2, 2013 9:22:16 AM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> A couple months ago I bent my rear derailler. Brought it to the LBS 
> and was told I "could" bend it back, but would most likely need a new 
> one - this being Israel, $80 for low end Shimano. I bent it back, LBS 
> adjusted it the best they could and sent me off with a warning 
> DON'T USE THE SMALLEST COG OR THE CHAIN WILL FALL OFF AND GET STUCK!!! 
>
> So, I ordered an LX derailler for like $30 on the web (Jenson USA) but 
> by the time it showed up I had gotten used to indexed shifting again 
> and avoiding the smallest cog. It's an 11, who needs an 11? 
>
> Fast forward until last week. Rain every day. Moved to a new office 55 
> minutes away and the chain fell off and got stuck, in pouring rain, 
> twice. So I figured this weekend it was time to install the new 
> derailler. Expect I never did it before. No problem, I thought - I 
> have an internet connection and am fairly competent at following 
> instructions. 
>
> Long story short, 3 hours later I got the d%&&$ed thing on the bike 
> and adjusted the limit screws, cable tension, chain length and 
> everything else I could find. In friction mode it shifts sort of OK, 
> not great. Hopefully good enough to get to work tomorrow and to the 
> LBS at the end of the day, hat in hand. 
>
> Hrrumph. 
>
> Jay 
>

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[RBW] Homer's Back!

[Pondero]

http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/gravel-plunking-country-bike/

Just wanted to celebrate the return of A. Homer Hilsen to rural north 
Texas.  It's not the same one I foolishly sold several months ago, but same 
frame, same size...in a different color.  Yesterday's delightful winter 
weather was a perfect opportunity for the first real ride.  I spent the 
morning rambling around one of my favorite loops.  Since I've already owned 
an AHH, I knew what to expect.  But after about a year without, the 
homecoming was even better than I imagined.  Let the S24O routine resume...

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[RBW] Re: Homer's Back!

[Mike]

Welcome back Home(er)!

Maybe about a year or so ago I went a few months without riding my Homer 
and briefly thought about selling it. I'm glad I didn't act on those 
thoughts. I've had mine now like 4.5yrs and love it. I wish it did better 
with a load on it but it's still a great bike. 

Are you gonna try and get stickers for the DT and ST?

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homer's Back!

[cyclotourist]

Are those Hetres on it? Whatever they are, they look perfect!


On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Mike  wrote:

> Welcome back Home(er)!
>
> Maybe about a year or so ago I went a few months without riding my Homer
> and briefly thought about selling it. I'm glad I didn't act on those
> thoughts. I've had mine now like 4.5yrs and love it. I wish it did better
> with a load on it but it's still a great bike.
>
> Are you gonna try and get stickers for the DT and ST?
>
> --mike
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[RBW] Fs: All new rear heavy duty tour kit and slightly used Supernova Airstream Chicago Pick up only

[Matthew J]

For sale dirt cheap a brand new rear Nitto Big Rack, two new Swift Industries 
Stack Panniers in brown wax canvas, and a very good condition Supernova 
Airstream.  Selling as a lot for $200.00 total.  

Not interested in parting out.  If you do not want everything, the price you 
pay is so low you can sell off the unwanted pieces if you are so inclined.  I 
am not. The only reasonI am asking for $200.00 is to weed out the eccentrics.  
My hope is whoever buys it uses them all on a Bombadil, Hilsen or Atlantis.

Not interested in shipping either.  Sorry.  I don't have a box and do not feel 
like looking for one.  I am located near the Kennedy expressway.  Out of 
towners maybe can get a local friend to swing by.

Pick up either this coming Wednesday, Friday, or next weekend.  

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[RBW] Re: Homer's Back!

[Jeremy Till]

In some ways, this is always the dream...to have a new bike but know even 
before you ride it that you're going to love it, such that the process of 
building it up is nothing but joyous anticipation.

On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:42:27 AM UTC-8, Pondero wrote:
>
> http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/gravel-plunking-country-bike/
>
> Just wanted to celebrate the return of A. Homer Hilsen to rural north 
> Texas.  It's not the same one I foolishly sold several months ago, but same 
> frame, same size...in a different color.  Yesterday's delightful winter 
> weather was a perfect opportunity for the first real ride.  I spent the 
> morning rambling around one of my favorite loops.  Since I've already owned 
> an AHH, I knew what to expect.  But after about a year without, the 
> homecoming was even better than I imagined.  Let the S24O routine resume...
>

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[RBW] Re: 2 Top Tube Observations

[John Philip]

I have both a 68 Atlantis and a 64 dtt Bombadil.  I'm 6'5" 238#.  I've 
ridden both bikes with the same loads, same bags, same racks and in the 
case of this large frame it's very clear the Bombadil handles the load much 
better.  On the Atlantis I can feel the head tube twisting and the frame 
springing when moving the bar back and fourth with a front load.  Much less 
with the Bombadil.  The Bombadil is much steadier climbing loaded and has 
no shimmy on fast descents loaded or not.  If I don't end up selling the 
Atlantis to Kelly :) I may just have a second top true added.  I guess I'm 
a 10% er :) 

On Saturday, February 2, 2013 4:26:19 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> I kinda suspect that 90% of the 2TT is because Grant thought it would look 
> cool, with a side benefit that it would distinguish current Rivs from older 
> Rivs and most competitor frames. You can attribute various functions to the 
> extra tube, but, as the preceding discussion demonstrates, most are in the 
> realm of the theoretical.
>
> I have a 60 cm 2TT Sam sitting in my shop. I thought it was weird at 
> first, but it's growing on me, and now I like it. Probably good that it's 
> too big for me...
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[RBW] Re: I am a (sometimes) enthusiastic but mediocre bike mechanic

[wrickster]

We all had to start somewhere. Rivendell has some great help videos. I've 
learned some nice tricks from Mark. - Ricky

On Saturday, February 2, 2013 4:27:06 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> "I replaced the too long screw holding my rack on, which I suspect was the 
> issue all 
> along."
>
> My observation is that with 11 & 12 tooth small cogs, there is little 
> clearance for the drive side rack screw to extend beyond the threaded 
> eyelet without chain interference.  On the rack installation video the 
> screw appears to be just long enough but not much, if any, protruding.  
>
> Being a "lockwashers with lock nuts" kinda guy, I use longer rack screws 
> with a nut.  On the drive side, the only thing that fits is a button head 
> screw.  These have a very low profile head which clears even an 11 cog.  
> Screwed into the threaded eyelet from the inside, it becomes a stud to 
> which the rack strut attaches with a nut.  Note this may be over-thinking 
> the solution.  
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Saturday, February 2, 2013 6:25:53 AM UTC-8, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>
>> On the bright side, I did manage to adjust my brakes, front and back, 
>> and replace the pads. 
>> Also, I'm pretty sure the old derailler was fine. I replaced the too 
>> long screw holding my rack on, which I suspect was the issue all 
>> along. 
>>
>> Haaarumph 
>>
>>
>> Jay 
>>
>> On Feb 2, 4:22 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv  wrote: 
>> > A couple months ago I bent my rear derailler. Brought it to the LBS 
>> > and was told I "could" bend it back, but would most likely need a new 
>> > one - this being Israel, $80 for low end Shimano. I bent it back, LBS 
>> > adjusted it the best they could and sent me off with a warning 
>> > DON'T USE THE SMALLEST COG OR THE CHAIN WILL FALL OFF AND GET STUCK!!! 
>> > 
>> > So, I ordered an LX derailler for like $30 on the web (Jenson USA) but 
>> > by the time it showed up I had gotten used to indexed shifting again 
>> > and avoiding the smallest cog. It's an 11, who needs an 11? 
>> > 
>> > Fast forward until last week. Rain every day. Moved to a new office 55 
>> > minutes away and the chain fell off and got stuck, in pouring rain, 
>> > twice. So I figured this weekend it was time to install the new 
>> > derailler. Expect I never did it before. No problem, I thought - I 
>> > have an internet connection and am fairly competent at following 
>> > instructions. 
>> > 
>> > Long story short, 3 hours later I got the d%&&$ed thing on the bike 
>> > and adjusted the limit screws, cable tension, chain length and 
>> > everything else I could find. In friction mode it shifts sort of OK, 
>> > not great. Hopefully good enough to get to work tomorrow and to the 
>> > LBS at the end of the day, hat in hand. 
>> > 
>> > Hrrumph. 
>> > 
>> > Jay 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Candy Bar Bag

[HTC]

photo?

On Friday, February 1, 2013 5:39:25 AM UTC-7, Kris wrote:
>
> FWIW this is still available.  
>
> On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:03:28 PM UTC-5, Kris wrote:
>>
>> Darker gray version.  Good condition w/ no tears.  Some patina on the 
>> buckles.  Used very lil and sitting in the basement for years.  Deserves a 
>> good home.
>>
>> $50 shipped to the mainland.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 2 Top Tube Observations

[hangtownmatt]

Last January my wife and I happened to be in Berkeley and stopped by 
Rivendell to take a look at the Betty Foy.  I wasn't interested in a new 
bike, but needed something so I could go on a test ride with her.  At the 
time I wouldn't even look at anything with 2TT's, so they set me up with a 
1TT 65cm Hilsen; hard to believe now there ever was such a thing.  We did 
not have much time that day and left without a purchase.  The following 
March we had another opportunity and set up an appointment for an extended 
test ride.  I was right up front with Rivendell and told them that I, 
personally, wasn't in the market, but wanted the opportunity to test ride 
something; anything; their choice.  When we arrived I was given a 60cm 
green 2TT Sam Hillborne.   We took off for an extensive 4 hour test ride.  
I had never felt more comfortable on a bike.  The handling was superb.  I 
felt as though I could do anything and/or ride anywhere on that bike.  To 
make a long story short we came home with Betty and Sam Hillborne frames 
that day.  I wasn't influenced by looks, price, the RMW Owners Bunch, 2TT's 
or anything else.  I simply liked the fit and ride.  Since than I've put 
almost 4,000 miles on the bike and have only ridden my former favorite 
once.  I've also grown to appreciate the novelty of the 2TT.  Not sure what 
it adds or detracts from, but I'm happy with the ride handling 
characteristics and it is kinda clool having something a little different.

Matt


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[RBW] FS: Nitto mini front rack, Brand V Seat Bag

[Alice Stribling]

Hi all,

I have these things for sale. Please email me offlist if interested.

Nitto Mini-Front Rack  * $70 includes shipping  
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r2.htm

Brand V Seat Bag  * $40 includes shipping
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm

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Payment via Paypal/personal/gift. 







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www.alicestribling.com

Artist, obsessed bike fiend, burlesque enthusiast and
Director of the SF branch of Dr Sketchy's Anti-Art School.
www.drsketchyssf.com

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[RBW] Re: Homer's Back!

[William]

Definitely worth celebrating

On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:42:27 AM UTC-8, Pondero wrote:
>
> http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/gravel-plunking-country-bike/
>
> Just wanted to celebrate the return of A. Homer Hilsen to rural north 
> Texas.  It's not the same one I foolishly sold several months ago, but same 
> frame, same size...in a different color.  Yesterday's delightful winter 
> weather was a perfect opportunity for the first real ride.  I spent the 
> morning rambling around one of my favorite loops.  Since I've already owned 
> an AHH, I knew what to expect.  But after about a year without, the 
> homecoming was even better than I imagined.  Let the S24O routine resume...
>

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[RBW] Homer's Back!

[Chris]

Hey congratulations! I grew up in nearby Fort Worth. Always liked Denton. I 
used to take my mountain bike out to the Fort Worth Nature Center many years 
ago. Looks like you got the road to yourself.
Enjoy!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes is back

[Ryan Ray]

Are you supposed to shellac those little twine frame protectors?

- Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes is back

[Manuel Acosta]

Ha the true story to sean twine wrap dealie is a secret. Maybe sean can chime 
in.

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[RBW] FS: Shimano Bar-End Shifters, NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

I have three sets of Shimano bar-end shifters for sale. All are new, 
never installed, perfect condition. All prices include free Priority 
Mail shipping.


All are Ultegra level, which means they'll index with any 8-speed or 
7-speed Shimano set-up, respectively, road or mountain, but won't work 
with those speeds of Dura-Ace.


They'll also work well as friction shifters with any rear derailleur 
(the front is friction in all setups).


Here's what's what of the three I have to sell:

 * 8-speed, with cables and housing = $75
 * 8-speed, with cables but no housing = $70
 * 7-speed, with cables but no housing = $90

Let me know if you have any questions.

Smiles,

Dave

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[RBW] Re: Considering selling: my 59 Bleriot frame/fork

[Chris]

As they should be, amen. 

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[RBW] Re: Homer's Back!

[Pondero]

Mike, I haven't decided about the decals.  The pure, functional part of me 
likes the clean look, and the social side of me wants to share with my brothers 
and sisters in riding for the brand.

David, yes, Hetres, and they ARE perfect.

Thanks, all, for the encouragement.

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[RBW] Re: Homer's Back!

[dougP]

"Plunk around" evokes a nice, leisurely ride of exploration.  I especially 
like the notion of "visiting, not conquering".  Nice photos, too.  Are 
Rivendell riders better than average photographers?  Or perhaps good 
photographers are drawn to Rivendells?  

dougP

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>
> http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/gravel-plunking-country-bike/
>
> Just wanted to celebrate the return of A. Homer Hilsen to rural north 
> Texas.  It's not the same one I foolishly sold several months ago, but same 
> frame, same size...in a different color.  Yesterday's delightful winter 
> weather was a perfect opportunity for the first real ride.  I spent the 
> morning rambling around one of my favorite loops.  Since I've already owned 
> an AHH, I knew what to expect.  But after about a year without, the 
> homecoming was even better than I imagined.  Let the S24O routine resume...
>

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[RBW] FS: Brooks saddles, B17 Standard and Ladies B17S, both honey color

[Doug Way]

Hi Rivsters-

We have a couple of extra Brooks saddles that we have for sale. Both are 
very lightly used, probably less than 300 miles.  Both have been 
Proofhided on the top and underside.  Pictures can be seen on my Flickr 
page:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/25652527@N05/8442973602/in/photostream

We're asking $70 for each saddle including shipping to the lower 48 by 
USPS Priority Mail.  We'd prefer payment by Paypal just because it's 
easier.


Thanks,
Doug Way
Boulder, CO
Atlantis and Roadeo

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[RBW] Just some colorful Sam H. photos from today

[Scot Brooks]

My Sam's been getting a little neglected lately since I've been riding the 
Soma so much. I decided to spruce him up a little with new orange bar tape, 
Shimano levers, NOS metal fenders from 1975 (made right here in Seattle!), 
and a relocation of the B&M headlight. Here's the imgur album 
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Re: [RBW] Just some colorful Sam H. photos from today

[René Sterental]

That looks spectacular! Congratulations!

What is the handlebar you're using and what are those tires? Again, how
could you neglect that? ;-)

René

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> My Sam's been getting a little neglected lately since I've been riding the
> Soma so much. I decided to spruce him up a little with new orange bar tape,
> Shimano levers, NOS metal fenders from 1975 (made right here in Seattle!),
> and a relocation of the B&M headlight. Here's the imgur album
> http://imgur.com/a/UACku
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[RBW] Finding balance.

[Manuel Acosta]

The stresses of work and having enough time just to do things for yourself 
can be daunting, if not impossible at times.  Nothing a quick overnight 
bike camping trip to remind you the importance of the basic things in life 
and to bring you back to earth. Tried to plan a quick and imprompt 
overnighter with some of the Rivendell crew. Due to school and sickness 
only Dustin could make it. Never the less it was a blast. Great refresher 
from a week worth of work and stress. Dustin told me about the story on how 
he ended up to be the ginny pig for Mark's new Hub rack shin-dig. He was at 
the shop for an overnighter trip when low and behold his bike is gone. 
Apparently Grant, Brian or Mark were wondering if Dustin's bike would fit 
the hub rack, so they took his bike in and fitted the rack on Dustin's 
bike. Before Dustin could object he was trying the new hub rack. Rack looks 
great without bags and seems like a great fit with the other Mark rack 
trifecta. We both talked about what would be in store for the new bags. We 
both jokingly figured that whatever bag Grant designs it would have some 
quirky design.  I said that maybe with the new bags you would have to clap 
twice to open them or something. All in good fun. 

Pictures proved that sometimes a good sleep outside is all you need to 
recharge the batteries:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDS3VqQ

-Manny " Oh yea it's the Super Bowl" Acosta

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[RBW] Re: Considering selling: my 59 Bleriot frame/fork

[justinaugust]

I sold my Bleriot for much less than that. But I also had a better fitting 
Saluki en route.  I think value when selling a used frame is a negotiation 
between the seller and buyer. For example: I (non-obsessively) collect vinyl. I 
have a 12 7" set from a band that I value very little. I would love to trade 
this for a similar set of an artist I adore. The set I have is "worth" 5x the 
one I want but I would trade it straight up because my perception of value is 
biased. We're there money involved I would do the same - sell mine under 
"market value" while paying over for the artist whom I like. 

Simply put - if it will take 750 for you to part with your Bleriot, don't 
accept anything less. There will be someone willing to pay just that. If you 
are negotiable, then find the buyer willing to work with you to find the 
maximum satisfactory situation for both of you. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Finding balance.

[René Sterental]

Nice...

On Sunday, February 3, 2013, Manuel Acosta wrote:

> The stresses of work and having enough time just to do things for yourself
> can be daunting, if not impossible at times.  Nothing a quick overnight
> bike camping trip to remind you the importance of the basic things in life
> and to bring you back to earth. Tried to plan a quick and imprompt
> overnighter with some of the Rivendell crew. Due to school and sickness
> only Dustin could make it. Never the less it was a blast. Great refresher
> from a week worth of work and stress. Dustin told me about the story on how
> he ended up to be the ginny pig for Mark's new Hub rack shin-dig. He was at
> the shop for an overnighter trip when low and behold his bike is gone.
> Apparently Grant, Brian or Mark were wondering if Dustin's bike would fit
> the hub rack, so they took his bike in and fitted the rack on Dustin's
> bike. Before Dustin could object he was trying the new hub rack. Rack looks
> great without bags and seems like a great fit with the other Mark rack
> trifecta. We both talked about what would be in store for the new bags. We
> both jokingly figured that whatever bag Grant designs it would have some
> quirky design.  I said that maybe with the new bags you would have to clap
> twice to open them or something. All in good fun.
>
> Pictures proved that sometimes a good sleep outside is all you need to
> recharge the batteries:
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDS3VqQ
>
> -Manny " Oh yea it's the Super Bowl" Acosta
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[RBW] Terraferma Frameset

[hobie]

Excellent looking frameset and extras on Bay. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Terraferma-Randoneuring-Frame-58-cm-Seat-Tube-700c-tires-/230922693940?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item35c410ad34
  
Jan Heine gave one of his 650b frames an excellent review.

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Re: [RBW] Just some colorful Sam H. photos from today

[Manuel Acosta]

agreed good stuff.

On Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:21:41 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>
> That looks spectacular! Congratulations!
>
> What is the handlebar you're using and what are those tires? Again, how 
> could you neglect that? ;-)
>
> René 
>
> On Sunday, February 3, 2013, Scot Brooks wrote:
>
>> My Sam's been getting a little neglected lately since I've been riding 
>> the Soma so much. I decided to spruce him up a little with new orange bar 
>> tape, Shimano levers, NOS metal fenders from 1975 (made right here in 
>> Seattle!), and a relocation of the B&M headlight. Here's the imgur album 
>> http://imgur.com/a/UACku 
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Re: [RBW] Just some colorful Sam H. photos from today

[Scot Brooks]

Thank Rene! Those bars are the VO Chris's Rando Bar and the tires are Soma 
New Xpress 35c. The bar feels good to me, but I've never tried a Noodle so 
I couldn't really say how they measure up. The tires are great; I think I 
like them even a little better the Marathon Racer, which was my previous 
favorite. 

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[RBW] Finding balance.

[Pondero]

This is an excellent example showing that good balance requires vigilant 
attention and quick adjustments.  It's not too difficult, but one must be 
intentional about it.  The skillful, like Manny here, make it look easy.

Follow the illustrations carefully.

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[RBW] Homer's Back!

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I like your blog, Pondero. I just added it to the short list of blogs that I 
currently read.

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Re: [RBW] Staff Bikes is back

[Eric Daume]

I don't know why, but the bike I keep coming back to is... Will's old 26"
Raleigh mountain bike. Maybe like an old race horse that's been out to
pasture, it no longer has any performance expectations and can just have
fun.

Eric


On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Jim Mather  wrote:

> A new page with staff bikes:  http://www.rivbike.com/Staff-Bikes-s/766.htm
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[RBW] Finding balance.

[EastBayGuy]

Test Pilot

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[RBW] Some New Steel for the Stable

[Eric Norris]

Stopped at the local bike swap today ... and came home with a new bike!

http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/02/new-classic-steel-for-campy-only-stable.html
 

Call this one "Homer's Italian Grandfather." Lots of very cool details on the 
frame--more photos coming soon.

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Re: [RBW] Finding balance.

[matherjd1]

You got the right stuff, Dustin.
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[RBW] Re: Some New Steel for the Stable

[Manuel Acosta]

Classy. Why was I not told about this bike swap?

On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:02:57 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
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> Stopped at the local bike swap today ... and came home with a new bike!
>
>
> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/02/new-classic-steel-for-campy-only-stable.html
>  
>
> Call this one "Homer's Italian Grandfather." Lots of very cool details on 
> the frame--more photos coming soon.
>
> --Eric
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> www.wheelsnorth.org
> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
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[RBW] Re: Mt.Hamiliton S240 Feb 20- 21?

[Way Rebb]

Cool, your headed through my stomping grounds…Livermore.   Wish I
could make it but getting out on weekend are hard enough.  Mines Road
is a good ride, lots of bicycle traffic on the weekends and not flat,
okay compared to Diablo, Hamilton or the coast it's flat.   You need
to get out to Tracy and beyond, say camp at Caswell State Part, to
experience flat flat lands.

Your route through Livermore looks good, I commute part of it daily.
 One change I offer to suggest is where you get on Stanley Rd.
 Stanley Rd is a constant work in progress and major commute artery to
Pleasanton  I just stay on the trail, go under the bridges, hang a BIG
left to keep on that trail.   This will empty on the new multi-use
path on Stanley and you are back on track. Much nicer than Stanley.
You can see this the map.

There is also camping at Del Valle recreational area.  You'll pass the
intersection to Del Valle when you are on Mines Road and Del Valle
Road happens to be the biggest climb for miles around…if you feel the
urge to do some climbing…

Regards,
Ray

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wrote:
> Mike asked me about a s240 trip to Mt.Ham. Taking Will's suggestion. Trying
> to give enough notice so that people can actually come to these things.
> Hosting a s240 to Mt.Hamilition. Will be a mixed terrain ride. Long and a
> good amount of climbing. Two days 4000+ climbing.
> But the views and route are by far worth all the trouble.
>
> First day.
> Fremont Bart to Joseph D Grant Ranch. 50ish mileshttp://goo.gl/maps/Cixf4
>
> - Slight detour on Sierra(because Google can't change the directions).
> Instead of riding down Sierra riding down the Sierra Vista Trail into Alum
> Rock Park.
> - I take this route in reverse when I have time and it's a blast.
>
> Second day.
> Joseph D Grant Ranch back to Fremont Bart 80ishhttp://goo.gl/maps/9GpCF
>
> - Totally making this part up. Never been this far out I hear it pretty
> flat after Hamilton. I'm actually open to suggestions on making it more
> interesting.
>
> So there it is. Sorry for the weird dates I'm on my second winter break and
> I got a week off and my weekends are booked.
> Any suggestions on the route or interesting place to see would be helpful.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Some New Steel for the Stable

[campyonlyguy]

I only happened on it by chance.

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On Feb 3, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Manuel Acosta  wrote:

> Classy. Why was I not told about this bike swap?
> 
> On Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:02:57 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
> Stopped at the local bike swap today ... and came home with a new bike!
> 
> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/02/new-classic-steel-for-campy-only-stable.html
>  
> 
> Call this one "Homer's Italian Grandfather." Lots of very cool details on the 
> frame--more photos coming soon.
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Re: [RBW] Some New Steel for the Stable

[Dan McNamara]

That looks like a nice ride. This was a Davis swap? 

Dan

Marin

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> Stopped at the local bike swap today ... and came home with a new bike!
> 
> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/02/new-classic-steel-for-campy-only-stable.html
>  
> 
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> frame--more photos coming soon.
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Re: [RBW] Some New Steel for the Stable

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Sacramento. The folks at Edible Pedal sponsor it on the first Sunday of the 
month. Lots of interesting stuff this time, but the Nicoletti called to me ...

Needless to say, I spent the entire afternoon cleaning and polishing it. 
Finally got to ride it late in the day.

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On Feb 3, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:

> That looks like a nice ride. This was a Davis swap? 
> 
> Dan
> 
> Marin
> 
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
>> Stopped at the local bike swap today ... and came home with a new bike!
>> 
>> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/02/new-classic-steel-for-campy-only-stable.html
>>  
>> 
>> Call this one "Homer's Italian Grandfather." Lots of very cool details on 
>> the frame--more photos coming soon.
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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

[Montclair BobbyB]

Steve:

Would like to plan 2 rides:

April 13-14: Delaware Water Gap Adventure Loop - 2-day credit 
card/self-supported (on/off road), which features a scenic rural road ride 
up the Delaware River on Day 1, with the Day 2 return leg including a mixed 
hilly terrain route through High Point/Stokes State Forest and a finish 
down along the Paulinskil rail trail (unpaved).
 
May 3-5: Riv Rally East (2-day with 3rd optional) - Blue Ridge area of 
Virginia / Greenbriar River, West Virginia (tentative; still looking...)  

I hope to have more definitive info within a week.  Stay tuned.

Bobby

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> I learned some new techniques for B&W conversions the other day and 
> tried them out on this photo taken on the Great Allegheny Passage: 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/7107713635/in/set-72157629882288771#/photos/97916047@N00/8439218788/in/set-72157629882288771/lightbox/
>  
>
> That was a great trip.  How are things going re: the 2013 edition? 
> (After all, the Great Prognosticator said we're going to have an early 
> spring...) 
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Re: [RBW] Just some colorful Sam H. photos from today

[Chris]

Great looking bike! I dig those tires.

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[RBW] SoCal Riv Riders Spring Ride

[cyclotourist]

Planning updated here, now with map!
http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157632662880910/

We're at the date-setting stage, so chime in. 9th is off the table, and
23rd doesn't look good, but the rest of the month is available.

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[RBW] Re: Just some colorful Sam H. photos from today

[Michael]

>
> Thanks for the shots!! Beautiful bike! I really enjoyed that.
>
1. What fenders?
2. Does the saddle bag come with that zippered pocket on back, or did you 
add that? Not mentioned on the description of that bag on the Riv site. 

>  
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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012

[Michael]

>
> Thanks for the pics. Looked like an awesome ride.
>
How many miles? 

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[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Riders Spring Ride

[dougP]

How about February 16?  March 2 is out for me.

dougP

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> Planning updated here, now with map! 
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157632662880910/
>
> We're at the date-setting stage, so chime in. 9th is off the table, and 
> 23rd doesn't look good, but the rest of the month is available.
>
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[RBW] Re: Just some colorful Sam H. photos from today

[Scot Brooks]

Thanks for the kind words, Michael. The fenders don't say anything on them, but 
the story is that they were manufactured around 1975 in Seattle. A bunch ended 
up in a barn and the ones that survived were recently salvaged. There's a bit 
of oxidation on some of the mounting hardware, but nothing to fret about. 
They're steel so I might fancy them up with a Riv magnet. The zippered pouch 
does indeed come with the bag and it's great for keeping my wallet/cell 
phone/flashlight or whatever. It never leaks, even in Seattle rain, not a drop. 
Not sure how, but that's my experience anyway. 

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[RBW] Roadeo pictures

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Took a short but wonderful ride on the bike today, and I saw Brian from Riv
out and about with a couple of his friends.

Here are pics I took:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/sets/72157632686324800/

Toshi in Oakland.

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