Re: [RBW] Re: Another "Last" One

[Eric Platt]

It's a different bike.  I have the last "last one" SO in 60cm.

Good bike for someone.  Still happy with mine.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Zack  wrote:

> oddly, i think that frame was up once, and then is back.  (at least that
> same posting was there, then went down, and is now back).
>
>
> On Thursday, July 5, 2012 4:22:09 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:
>>
>> There's a 60cm SimpleOne frame and fork available on the Riv site if
>> anyone's looking. Apparently a cancelled order (they don't know what
>> they're missing!)
>>
>> SO glad it's not my size or I'd end up with a mate for my QB!
>>
>> -Pete on CT
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My new Rivendell with HORIZONTAL dropouts and DOWNTUBE SILVER shifters..

[Steven Frederick]

Yeah, I like the colors.  A local builder often uses a similar color scheme
on his signature bikes.

Are you using a clamp on/threadless stem on a threaded steerer tube?  I've
read that that can lead to the steerer cracking but I don't know personally
if that is a realistic concern...

Steve

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:

> Looks great!  You're right, not the typical Riv build but that is
> basically the setup I'd go for (assuming Grant would let me) if I ordered a
> custom Riv road.  Maybe with 47-57mm reach brakes, though, so I could fit
> fenders + Ruffy Tuffy's in the winter.
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 12:33:16 PM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>Picked this up off one of the lists a couple months and with the
>> helped of Recycled Cycles did one of my fastest builds yet (2
>> months...my Trek project is pushing a year and a half!!). Took it out
>> on it's maiden voyage this morning.  Kind an atypical Riv build these
>> days..fenderless, fairly light, non-threaded headset, etc.  I built it
>> up with stuff laying around and some newer mid-level Shimano parts.
>> Ride was fantasticlight, quick, climbed and descended the biggest
>> hills I could find quite nicelyfelt nice.  I think we've got
>> sunshine for a few days so hopefully I'll get in a few more rides.  Oh
>> and no slippage from shifters or back wheel;).
>>
>> Happy Fourth from Seattle, WA
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**77502424@N00/sets/**72157630423425036/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Review of "Just Ride."

[Peter Pesce]

On Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:27:52 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
>
> "...Today when I was finishing up a short fast(ish) ride I went by two 
> bike shops and was looking at CF bikes--"endurance" and "distance" models 
> with lower BB heights and longer stays. No way. Or at least not today. No 
> way would I choose a bike that wouldn't fit at least a 28 and a fender and 
> there's no way I'm riding wheels with less than 32 spokes"



Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't a CF 'cross bike work in this case?  

-Pete in CT

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Re: [RBW] Re: Review of "Just Ride."

[Mike]

On Friday, July 6, 2012 6:58:22 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote:
>
>
> Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't a CF 'cross bike work in this case?  
>
> -Pete in CT
>

Yeah, that would be an option but most of them seem to have fairly short 
HTs making it hard to get the bars where I'd want them although most of 
them tend to have fender eyelets. The idea of a CF bike was just a passing 
interest. It's not something I'm gonna get. Just not impressed. 

One thing that is nice is that there are so many options for inexpensive 
all-road steel bikes with nice clearance. The fit on my CC isn't ideal but 
it works. All-City, Salsa, & Surly are all offering good all-road bikes. 
Salsa has some new bikes coming out including a "gravel grinder." All-City 
has some nice bikes. Surly is great and I'm curious if this will be the 
year they release a disc brake cross bike although disc brakes aren't 
something that really interest me.

I'm watching the tour as I respond to this and there was a pretty big 
pile-up of riders. Lots of them standing around waiting for new bikes and 
wheels. You gotta wonder, if they were on steel bikes more traditional 
wheels (28s as opposed to CF deep dish) would they weather cashes better? 
Would they be that much slower? I sorta doubt it. I think Grant has talked 
about it how it would be neat if the riders didn't have support cars easily 
available to them and had to fix their own flats. You'd see different 
equipment for sure.

--mike 

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[RBW] Re: Review of "Just Ride."

[Beth H]

I read it and liked most of it. I think Grant goes to some places I 
wouldn't, especially in the areas of food and helmets.
But I found it mostly informative and entertaining.

Reading it, I was reminded of how blessed I am to live in a city where 
living car-free and relying on a bicycle for primary transportation is 
actually possible -- and how far behind Portland so many cities remain in 
developing human-scale infrstraucture.

I've tried nearly everything -- from Randonneuring to racing -- and these 
days I find I am mostly content to ride my bike for transportation and 
pleasure at slower speeds. Much of what's in the book applies to folks who 
want to Just Ride. In the landscape of too many books and magazines 
exhorting us to pour ourselves into lycra, strap on the heart-rate monitors 
and emulate elite racers at every opportunity (so that bike shops can sell 
more carbon-fiber racing bikes and recoup their investments on all that R & 
D -- sorry, that's my bike industry cynicism at work), *Just Ride* is a 
breath of fresh air.

Beth in PDX

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[RBW] Re: My new Rivendell with HORIZONTAL dropouts and DOWNTUBE SILVER shifters..

[rob markwardt]

Thanks to all.  Previous owner (Joe) did all the color choosing.  The
steerer was completely revamped to threadless so all should be good.
Did about 4.5 hours yesterday on the bike and it performed
flawlessly.  Only concern is my "racy" saddle...good for a couple
hours then the butt starts asking "where's the Brooks"?

Rob


On Jul 6, 6:08 am, Steven Frederick  wrote:
> Yeah, I like the colors.  A local builder often uses a similar color scheme
> on his signature bikes.
>
> Are you using a clamp on/threadless stem on a threaded steerer tube?  I've
> read that that can lead to the steerer cracking but I don't know personally
> if that is a realistic concern...
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> > Looks great!  You're right, not the typical Riv build but that is
> > basically the setup I'd go for (assuming Grant would let me) if I ordered a
> > custom Riv road.  Maybe with 47-57mm reach brakes, though, so I could fit
> > fenders + Ruffy Tuffy's in the winter.
>
> > On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 12:33:16 PM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:
>
> >> Hi All,
> >>    Picked this up off one of the lists a couple months and with the
> >> helped of Recycled Cycles did one of my fastest builds yet (2
> >> months...my Trek project is pushing a year and a half!!). Took it out
> >> on it's maiden voyage this morning.  Kind an atypical Riv build these
> >> days..fenderless, fairly light, non-threaded headset, etc.  I built it
> >> up with stuff laying around and some newer mid-level Shimano parts.
> >> Ride was fantasticlight, quick, climbed and descended the biggest
> >> hills I could find quite nicelyfelt nice.  I think we've got
> >> sunshine for a few days so hopefully I'll get in a few more rides.  Oh
> >> and no slippage from shifters or back wheel;).
>
> >> Happy Fourth from Seattle, WA
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/**77502424@N00/sets/**72157630423425036/
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Review of "Just Ride."

[pb]

On Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:09:14 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
 
"carbon fiber forks are stupid"
 
Your approach and your passion, as someone else called it, fit well in the 
contemporary landscape of confrontational divisiveness, and are effective 
not in furthering the conversation, but in terminating it.
 
Peter Bridge
(Who believes that most facts are subjective, and who misses the courtesy, 
good humour, and wit of William F. Buckley Jr.)
 
 
 
  

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[RBW] 61cm Romulus For Sale

[Kwabbott]

My 61cm Romulus is up on craigslist here in Kalamazoo.

http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/bik/3117889874.html 

Thanks,

Kevin

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[RBW] What happened to "Silver" sidepulls?

[lungimsam]

RBW has Tektro 559's that they say are the same. But what happened to the 
ones that said "Silver" on them?

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[RBW] Re: Betties and Sams and paint choices

[JaxandPuzzle]

In defense of the color - I am typically drawn to warm colors, and thought 
about getting my Betty in a pink, orange or red. However, every Betty I saw 
that had been custom painted didn't appeal to me for reasons unbeknownst to 
me. The blue, while not something I'd normally choose, is awesome. It's an 
unusual shade, blue-green, very serene. And it photographs extremely well! 

I had all my lugs filled in red, and paired with cream Grand Bois Hetres, 
honey saddle and grips, and hammered honjos. It looks really phenomenal 
IMO. I waited more than a year to purchase my Betty and would have been 
disappointed had they changed the color. Blue is evidently a great seller 
for Riv. If your wife prefers another color, get a custom color! It's 
already a very expensive bike, it may as well be the color she prefers.

Here are a few shots of my Betty, which I think looks different from most 
even though it's the same color: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10344790@N06/sets/72157630449833200/

My fiance and I are planning to purchase Bromptons this fall, and I think I 
might go with the Turkish green to match Betty. My next bike after that 
will probably be orange :-) 


On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:09:19 AM UTC-4, Earl Grey wrote:
>
> Can anyone explain to me (I know, I should write Grant) why the Sam 
> has gone through 4 gorgeous paint choices (the only one I didn't like 
> was the original green, but only because of the gold decals; too much 
> like a pimped Lexus), and Betty is still on her first (not terrible) 
> paint job. True, there is Ives Gomez, but he sports the same IMHO 
> tasteless gold decals. 
>
> This seems even stranger because of the perceived notion that color 
> has a much larger influence in women's bike buying decisions. Lest I 
> be accused of prejudice, my own wife and several female friends have 
> confirmed this (I know, small sample size). 
>
> Why do I care? I have been wanting to buy my wife a Betty Foy for a 
> while, and she actually wants one, but she pretty much hates the 
> color, nor does she like black and gold. Upon asking her what color 
> she DOES like, she can't actually give an answer beyond "I'd have to 
> look at a bunch of bikes". Oh well, at least she knows what she 
> dislikes, and I am not among them. 
>
> Nonetheless, I have a feeling that she is not alone, and that 
> switching Betty's color every couple of re-orders would increase 
> sales, as it would increase the color choices over time, and might 
> also lead to the-red-ones-are-going-away-get-yours-now-type sales. If 
> the Betty came in a color my wife liked, and that color was going 
> away, I would have bought one already. 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Gernot 
> Thailand

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[RBW] Re: Review of "Just Ride."

[Mojo]

>From Bicycle Times
 
http://www.bicycletimesmag.com/content/book-review-just-ride-grant-petersen

 

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[RBW] Portland Travel

[kmcmoobud]

Hi--

If all goes well, I will be visiting Portland for the first time to
attend a bicycle planning workshop at Portland State University's
Institute for Bicycle and Pedestrian Innovation in late August.  I
plan to arrive a few days early with my bike in tow.  I will have to
get me and my bike from the airport to my hotel.  Is anyone from
Portland willing to email me off the list to help me work through some
of the logistics?  I'm also considering bike rental, so feedback on
this would also be helpful.

Thanks,

Kristy Carter
kmcmoo...@gmail.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Review of "Just Ride."

[rlh3...@gmail.com]

Perhaps it's personal with him, I don't know. I also admire the passion, and  
strong opinions, based on facts, can be refreshing. I know Rivendell sells  
some fine bicycles at reasonable prices. I just picked up a Homer and spent  
about a half-hour just looking at it. It's really quite stunning. The lug  
work, headbadge, and paint all work together to produce one fine piece of  
eye candy. I'm almost too scared to ride the damn thing! I said almost. 


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

-Original message-
From: Peter Morgano 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 5, 2012 15:40:50 EDT
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Review of "Just Ride."

While I dont agree with Grant on some stuff (see helmets) I admire his
passion. All too often those who run a business can be worn down over time
by the tide of criticism and in an attempt to appeal to the biggest
audience possible and wind up sounding like some politician who cant just
take a stand on something.  I would rather have someone I vehemently
disagree with than some syncophant who doesnt want to step on anyone's
toes.  And as for the hating on CF I do remember reading that GP knew
someone who lost thier life due to a snapped CF fork so maybe it is a bit
more personal to him than just cost and other superficial concerns.  Again,
I rode CF, and a SS conversion at that but as a bigger guy I was glad was
glad to see it go rather than worrying if that next pothole was going to be
my doom or not.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM, pb  wrote:



On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:26:08 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:



Why does Grant continue to propagate such falsehood. Of course CARBON
FIBER FRAMES CAN BE REPAIRED. Grants continued insistance that it "can't  

be
fixed" makes him look petty and shows that he has no other way of  

degrading

the material to sell his supposedly *superior* steel frames. Note, it can
actually be easier and cheaper to repair carbon!



I appreciated Brewster's comments.  When I was a Reader subscriber, I was
always saddened and alienated when Grant would assert that certain things
were stupid, inferior, a fraud, a lie


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[RBW] Re: Betties and Sams and paint choices

[Peter Pesce]

Beautiful photos of a beautiful bike! I really like the way you continued 
the red accents - like the twining on the cork grips! 

The cream tires really lighten-up the look. I can't imagine it with black 
tires.

That is a bike that is really "put together." Fantastic.

-Pete in CT

On Friday, July 6, 2012 10:47:27 AM UTC-4, JaxandPuzzle wrote:
>
>
> In defense of the color - I am typically drawn to warm colors, and thought 
> about getting my Betty in a pink, orange or red. However, every Betty I saw 
> that had been custom painted didn't appeal to me for reasons unbeknownst to 
> me. The blue, while not something I'd normally choose, is awesome. It's an 
> unusual shade, blue-green, very serene. And it photographs extremely well! 
>
> I had all my lugs filled in red, and paired with cream Grand Bois Hetres, 
> honey saddle and grips, and hammered honjos. It looks really phenomenal 
> IMO. I waited more than a year to purchase my Betty and would have been 
> disappointed had they changed the color. Blue is evidently a great seller 
> for Riv. If your wife prefers another color, get a custom color! It's 
> already a very expensive bike, it may as well be the color she prefers.
>
> Here are a few shots of my Betty, which I think looks different from most 
> even though it's the same color: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10344790@N06/sets/72157630449833200/
>
> My fiance and I are planning to purchase Bromptons this fall, and I think 
> I might go with the Turkish green to match Betty. My next bike after that 
> will probably be orange :-) 
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:09:19 AM UTC-4, Earl Grey wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone explain to me (I know, I should write Grant) why the Sam 
>> has gone through 4 gorgeous paint choices (the only one I didn't like 
>> was the original green, but only because of the gold decals; too much 
>> like a pimped Lexus), and Betty is still on her first (not terrible) 
>> paint job. True, there is Ives Gomez, but he sports the same IMHO 
>> tasteless gold decals. 
>>
>> This seems even stranger because of the perceived notion that color 
>> has a much larger influence in women's bike buying decisions. Lest I 
>> be accused of prejudice, my own wife and several female friends have 
>> confirmed this (I know, small sample size). 
>>
>> Why do I care? I have been wanting to buy my wife a Betty Foy for a 
>> while, and she actually wants one, but she pretty much hates the 
>> color, nor does she like black and gold. Upon asking her what color 
>> she DOES like, she can't actually give an answer beyond "I'd have to 
>> look at a bunch of bikes". Oh well, at least she knows what she 
>> dislikes, and I am not among them. 
>>
>> Nonetheless, I have a feeling that she is not alone, and that 
>> switching Betty's color every couple of re-orders would increase 
>> sales, as it would increase the color choices over time, and might 
>> also lead to the-red-ones-are-going-away-get-yours-now-type sales. If 
>> the Betty came in a color my wife liked, and that color was going 
>> away, I would have bought one already. 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>>
>> Gernot 
>> Thailand
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster--What to do now that you have it

[islaysteve]

I was at a giant antique mall yesterday, and after I realized that I could 
look for frames, I was happy to browse while my wife looked for other 
things.  It occurred to me that what I'd like is an oak frame with a 
"Mission" or "Arts & Crafts" vibe.  Didn't find anything yesterday, but who 
knows?  There's a bit of wiggle room on the size, with a custom mat (which 
it will need anyway). Steve

On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:46:51 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote:
>
> Mine showed up today.  Yeah, it is better than shown on the interweb.  
> Wasn't sure I'd like it when the first version showed up.  But, it's very 
> good.  For some reason, looks like "California" to this person from 
> fly-over land.  It's now in a Target frame on the living room wall.  For 
> anyone who cares, an 18x24 frame works swell.  Had to take down the 
> Rivendell bike model poster to make room.
>  
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:57 AM, islaysteve  wrote:
>
>> Given the prices some here are posting, I might have to order the 
>> supplies and do it myself.  I have an idea of the type of frame I want, so 
>> as to compliment the style and period look of the poster.  I will probably 
>> take it to the framer that I've used before for an estimate.  Cheers 
>> everyone, Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:12:09 PM UTC-4, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>>>
>>> I had no idea how (seemingly) crazy expensive pro framing is. I was 
>>> quoted $150-300 depending on how fancy by a local frame shop. 
>>>
>>> I'd really like to split the middle between museum-quality display and 
>>> thumbtacks in the wall... what are the options? I really like 
>>> William's idea of frameless mounting on inch thick sturdy stuff. 
>>> Anybody have similarly less costly options? 
>>>
>>> On Jun 30, 5:47 pm, Kevin Mulcahy  wrote: 
>>> > I got mine framed and matted. 
>>> > 
>>> > Semi-fancy frame, colored matte to match the print, UV protectant 
>>> glass to 
>>> > protect the colors, and a slip on back to house the "info" that came 
>>> with 
>>> > it. With labor, it came to about $230. 
>>> > 
>>> > Kevin 
>>> > in steamy Humboldt Park, Chicago
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[RBW] Re: Long distance clothing choices

[Scot Brooks]

Thanks for the replies, everyone. Special thanks to Mike for the LL Bean 
seersuckers on sale tip; I have one of their Cool Weave Trail Shirts coming my 
way, along with some nice lightweight shorts. As a former Mainer, I'll wear 
them with an inappropriate amount of pride. 

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[RBW] WTB: Bullmoose

[Tim]

I'll be getting my 58cm Hunqa in a couple of weeks (with the gray/kidney 
paint!) and I'm looking for some RBW Bullmoose bars. I think they came in 
two heights, with the 200mm being the taller ones. Those are the size I'm 
looking for. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Bullmoose

[Tim]

Whoops! Found RBW's specs on the Bullmoose. They all have the same quill 
and it is the extension that is either 150 or 200mm. I think I would prefer 
the 150mm but am open to either. Thanks again!
On Friday, July 6, 2012 4:47:44 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
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> I'll be getting my 58cm Hunqa in a couple of weeks (with the gray/kidney 
> paint!) and I'm looking for some RBW Bullmoose bars. I think they came in 
> two heights, with the 200mm being the taller ones. Those are the size I'm 
> looking for. Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Bullmoose

[Tim]

On Friday, July 6, 2012 4:47:44 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
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> I'll be getting my 58cm Hunqa in a couple of weeks (with the gray/kidney 
> paint!) and I'm looking for some RBW Bullmoose bars. I think they came in 
> two heights, with the 200mm being the taller ones. Those are the size I'm 
> looking for. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Bullmoose

[James Warren]

Tim,
I have a set in the 150 mm length. Where do you live?

-Jim Warren

p.s. On my way to a BBQ, so I won't see replies until later tonight.



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> I'll be getting my 58cm Hunqa in a couple of weeks (with the gray/kidney 
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> heights, with the 200mm being the taller ones. Those are the size I'm looking 
> for. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Bullmoose

[James Warren]

Dang, sorry to spam the list. I can never get used to this auto-reply-all, and 
it's been years now! I've made this mistake like 5 times.

-Jim W.


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> 
> Tim,
> I have a set in the 150 mm length. Where do you live?
> 
> -Jim Warren
> 
> p.s. On my way to a BBQ, so I won't see replies until later tonight.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Tim wrote:
> 
>> I'll be getting my 58cm Hunqa in a couple of weeks (with the gray/kidney 
>> paint!) and I'm looking for some RBW Bullmoose bars. I think they came in 
>> two heights, with the 200mm being the taller ones. Those are the size I'm 
>> looking for. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] What happened to "Silver" sidepulls?

[Bruce Herbitter]

The Silvers were a nicer polished version with salmon pads instead of black
ones. Maybe not enough of a difference to sell Silvers when 559's do the
job for less.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:34 AM, lungimsam  wrote:

> RBW has Tektro 559's that they say are the same. But what happened to the
> ones that said "Silver" on them?
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Re: [RBW] What happened to "Silver" sidepulls?

[Mike]

I imagine that the Silvers cost a bit more and RBW scaled back a bit. When 
I was putting my Hilsen together the Silver brakes I received came in their 
own box so I'm sure that, the polishing and the change of pads added an 
extra cost. Still, I liked that the Silvers said "Silver" on them. I always 
thought that was a nice name for a line of bicycle components.

It's nice to see the brake has found it's way on to bikes other than Rivs. 
I know one of the Civia bikes is spec'd with it. It's a smart design and 
works well. Using it off road on my Hilsen I've had a couple of moments 
here and there when I've wondered if the brake is up to the challenge but 
on the road it's been fine. I do like having the canti clearance with a 
much easier set-up.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster--What to do now that you have it

[Leslie]

At the local Ben Franklin (half-price frame sale right now), I picked a frame 
similar to the one my first Hiawatha Cyclery poster is in, but in cherry 
instead of oak with a bit of matting, and non-reflective UV-protective 
conservation glass, mounted, for about 80... Yeah, more than the poster itself, 
but far less than what the poster will one day cost... 

Have to admit, looking through DLG's catalog, there's several others I *really* 
wish I could afford, but are past my range for posters...

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[RBW] Slightly OT-Hilarious Ritchey CL Posting

[Peter M]

Shame Bikesnob is off this week because this one is a gem...

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/3104733725.html

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[RBW] Ram for sale on iBob list

[Peter Pesce]

I waited a few hours and nobody mentioned it, so maybe I'm being naive and this 
guy's a known scammer, but...

An iBob member posted a NOS 60cm Ram frame and fork for sale:

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/internet-bob/vJ_LunMDW3U

No knowledge of or relation to the seller. Just FYI. 

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[RBW] Shimano hubs.

[Mike]

So I was looking for some hubs tonight, checking Universal Cycles as a 
start and they no longer have Shimano non-disc XT hubs. I checked the 
Shimano website and it doesn't appear they're making them. It appears LX 
hubs are still being made but they aren't listed on the Shimano website. 
Deore hubs are still available although they appear to be made only in 
black. That totally sucks. I've found XT hubs to be great and have them on 
most of my bikes. 

Furthermore, Shimano appears to have streamlined their V-brakes. I guess as 
soon as road bikes are being made with disc brakes it'll be hard to find 
road calipers. 

It's not like this is the end of the world, there's plenty of options but 
I've found the XT hubs to be a great value. I'll definitely be looking to 
scoop up a set of LX hubs to put aside.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Portland Travel

[Ely Rodriguez]

I just flew to portland from SF. they have a bicycle repair stand and some 
tools you can borrow, at the airport. just ask the info desk.
When we arrived, we put our bikes together and rode to our destination. it 
was very easy.
They also have public transport, but we did not use it.

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>
> If all goes well, I will be visiting Portland for the first time to 
> attend a bicycle planning workshop at Portland State University's 
> Institute for Bicycle and Pedestrian Innovation in late August.  I 
> plan to arrive a few days early with my bike in tow.  I will have to 
> get me and my bike from the airport to my hotel.  Is anyone from 
> Portland willing to email me off the list to help me work through some 
> of the logistics?  I'm also considering bike rental, so feedback on 
> this would also be helpful. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Kristy Carter 
> kmcmoo...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Slightly OT-Hilarious Ritchey CL Posting

[Philip Williamson]

The only thing funnier than the arabica-snorting civets is the list of keywords 
at the end.
That and the misplaced decimal in his price...

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[RBW] Which tubes work with Nifty Swiftys?

[lungimsam]

Having a hard time finding tubes that are for anything narrower than 650b x 
35.
 
What do you use with your Nifty Swiftys?

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[RBW] WTB: rear derailleur

[Donald Lee]

Slowly building up my first nice bike, a Rivendell Heron. I think I have 
everything except for a rear derailleur. I'm using friction shifters and an 
11-32 8 sp cassette. Something in silver, like a Shimano LX would be 
preferred, but as this is just a commuter / grocery-getter I'm not going to 
be picky.

Thanks!

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