[RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.
I'm definitely going with at least one paper book since I don't have a kindle. I like Bill's idea of signed copies too, but either way it will be a great read for the start of the summer and I can't wait. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tO4uuRXWTrEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
Bill- I thought about a sprung saddle - I've always been intrigued by the B72 actually - but I'm quite surprised/happy with how much extra "spring" the bike has now with the slightly larger, slightly lower pressure, and more compliant (can't say "supple" any more!) Paselas, compared to the JB's. Of course, I could just be stressing the frame and fork right up to its limits! -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vYAW4MolLCgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.
On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:32 PM, grant wrote: > If that guy (or woman) has money and misplaced faith in the > salesperson, s/he's going to get on a bike looking kind of like a > former pro racer gone to seed. LOL Good turn of phrase! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two more items For Sale: Nitto Tech Deluxe and Loyal Designs Handlebar bag
I have claims on the bag and the stem. If those claims fall through, I'll re-post, but I expect them to be taken. Morphe handlebars are still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bLXk4WhevcYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.
Unlikely (impossible) that I'd charge a premium for that. More likely, will wrestle with what to say, whether to customize or just sign my name, embarrassed about the awkwardness, but willing, and even tho Amazon (which, as an author, I should say "the blessed Amazon") is buying them for less than RIV can buy them for, we'll come close to Zon price, I think. I don't want to make mad other booksellers by selling too low AND with the signed thing, and then they'd get made and say Oh Forget It, he can sell them himself...or something. Will try to balance the stuff. On Feb 22, 7:44 pm, Bill wrote: > It would be really neat if RBW offered GP-autographed copies for a buck or > two extra (assuming the publisher allows that sort of thing). I'd gladly > pay the upcharge and I'll even shellac my twine bookmark to go with it. If > I were to get a Kindle to use to read it I'm afraid that would be the > slippery slope whereby I would sell my Sam Hillborne, my Saluki, and my > beloved XO-3 to buy another modern plastic device like a Trekalized bike. > Besides that, I wouldn't be able to write "bullsh*t!" on the pages I > don't like, although I seriously doubt I'd be inspired to do that. Hey, > even three bucks would be OK by me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
I run 37mm Pasela TG and have no need for a spring saddle, in fact i switched from a split center selle anatomica to a berthoud because there is so much cushion with the wider tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
Some good Lycra Warrior vs. Hipster-Fixie LOLZ here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4 "You can barely get your hands on your handlebars Lookin' pretty shaky when you're weavin through cars You think it makes you look like a courier It really just makes you look girlier" On Feb 22, 2:03 pm, Peter Morgano wrote: > Haha, I once bought a fixie where the bars were no joke 8 inches wide, not > even big enough for my hands on the ride home. What a joke! > On Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM, "Peter Pesce" wrote: > > > > > > > > > I walk by that Kog every day on the way to and from work. > > The moustache bars always make me smile - especially compared to all the > > stubby little sawn-off flat bars that seem so trendy on fixies around town. > > I fully expect to see guys riding around clutching a bare stem eventually! > > > -Pete > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bcdZLzr5mNcJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] recent Atlantis changes
For Atlantis frames made between, say 2003 and 2008-ish, I usually have a pretty good eye for estimating the approximate vintage because of my experience selling them and working on them during those years. Earlier this week, we got a new 61cm Atlantis in for a customer. I noticed that it has some different dropouts and rack braze-ons on the fork and seat stays, not to mention lug detail variations compared to older examples. But above all that, when we tried to put a standard SRAM chain on, the chain was very close to being too short. I wondered about chainstay length, which turns out to be a long 47 cm. I recall the older models having 43.5-44.5 cm chainstays. Just thought this might be worth a mention for academic purposes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A6Os_kwanGIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.
Definitely a paper copy for me. Does V8 help when you're riding home from work on Wednesday night and you're riding so slow that you're sure your tire is flat again but it turns out that it's just your legs? Cause that's what happened to me this week. today was fine though. ride home was no less spritely than usual. Turning 45 on Tuesday do maybe that's it. Hope not. Jay On Feb 23, 7:09 pm, grant wrote: > Unlikely (impossible) that I'd charge a premium for that. More likely, > will wrestle with what to say, whether to customize or just sign my > name, embarrassed about the awkwardness, but willing, and even tho > Amazon (which, as an author, I should say "the blessed Amazon") is > buying them for less than RIV can buy them for, we'll come close to > Zon price, I think. I don't want to make mad other booksellers by > selling too low AND with the signed thing, and then they'd get made > and say Oh Forget It, he can sell them himself...or something. Will > try to balance the stuff. > > On Feb 22, 7:44 pm, Bill wrote: > > > > > > > > > It would be really neat if RBW offered GP-autographed copies for a buck or > > two extra (assuming the publisher allows that sort of thing). I'd gladly > > pay the upcharge and I'll even shellac my twine bookmark to go with it. If > > I were to get a Kindle to use to read it I'm afraid that would be the > > slippery slope whereby I would sell my Sam Hillborne, my Saluki, and my > > beloved XO-3 to buy another modern plastic device like a Trekalized bike. > > Besides that, I wouldn't be able to write "bullsh*t!" on the pages I > > don't like, although I seriously doubt I'd be inspired to do that. Hey, > > even three bucks would be OK by me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.
Do = so How come you can't edit your posts on this thing? Jay On Feb 23, 11:00 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: > Definitely a paper copy for me. > > Does V8 help when you're riding home from work on Wednesday night and > you're riding so slow that you're sure your tire is flat again but it > turns out that it's just your legs? > > Cause that's what happened to me this week. today was fine though. > ride home was no less spritely than usual. > > Turning 45 on Tuesday do maybe that's it. Hope not. > > Jay > > On Feb 23, 7:09 pm, grant wrote: > > > > > > > > > Unlikely (impossible) that I'd charge a premium for that. More likely, > > will wrestle with what to say, whether to customize or just sign my > > name, embarrassed about the awkwardness, but willing, and even tho > > Amazon (which, as an author, I should say "the blessed Amazon") is > > buying them for less than RIV can buy them for, we'll come close to > > Zon price, I think. I don't want to make mad other booksellers by > > selling too low AND with the signed thing, and then they'd get made > > and say Oh Forget It, he can sell them himself...or something. Will > > try to balance the stuff. > > > On Feb 22, 7:44 pm, Bill wrote: > > > > It would be really neat if RBW offered GP-autographed copies for a buck or > > > two extra (assuming the publisher allows that sort of thing). I'd gladly > > > pay the upcharge and I'll even shellac my twine bookmark to go with it. > > > If > > > I were to get a Kindle to use to read it I'm afraid that would be the > > > slippery slope whereby I would sell my Sam Hillborne, my Saluki, and my > > > beloved XO-3 to buy another modern plastic device like a Trekalized bike. > > > Besides that, I wouldn't be able to write "bullsh*t!" on the pages I > > > don't like, although I seriously doubt I'd be inspired to do that. Hey, > > > even three bucks would be OK by me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma
Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/ Dirtdrop stem & moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal. I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach. In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min. insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation. The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little horrifying for my perfectionism to bear. I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for any input! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma
have you looked at the super tall periscopa? Ben's cycles has them in I believe but with only 80mm extension might not be what you are looking for. On Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM, "Mike S" wrote: > Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam > Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/ > Dirtdrop stem & moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal. > I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have > gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost > as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach. > > In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum > insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like > it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be > replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic > would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm > additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm > also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min. > insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation. > > The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and > throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something > so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little > horrifying for my perfectionism to bear. > > I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had > similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will > actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for > any input! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma
Mike I don't have any tactical help to give you besides encouragement to try whatever your gut tells you. I will say that the risk associated with running your stem above the max height line is that the wedging part that is expanding the steerer is at the part where the steerer is weakened by the threads being there. The risk is you literally pulling the top of your steertube off. It's a really rare thing that those of us that have worked at shops have seen maybe a handful of times per decade. That failure, though rare, is almost the fastest way to get your head on the ground. So the risk is small, but the penalty is large. I would not go more than a couple mm above the min insertion line. What I do have is empathy, as the process of buying, setting up and riding bigger Rivendells has finally led me to conclude that my custom racing bike is too small, and I'm parting it out. I'm not saying that you should punt on your QuickBeam, but I am saying that I know what it's like for a good fitting bike to ruin another bike that had SEEMED to fit right for a long long time. Best of luck with your efforts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F8R80LP3EqIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
Can't speak for Brad, but I lock my Atlantis outside short term when I'm running errands. Knock on wood, I haven't had any problems yet. At least not with the bike itself. Had my headlight stolen once because I forgot and left it on the bike. And I take any saddlebags, handlebar bags off when lock it too. I generally just use one of the Kryptonite NYC u-locks, usually through the front wheel and frame, but if I'm leaving it for a longer time I'll also use a heavy duty cable lock through the rear wheel and frame too. My impression is that bike theft rates vary widely from neighborhood to neighborhood. But maybe I've just been lucky too. I figure the Atlantis is for riding. If it gets stolen or vandalized, well, it would be pretty annoying and an inconvenience for sure, but just another excuse to save my pennies and go shopping at Rivbike.com again. On Feb 22, 9:39 am, Chris wrote: > Hey Brad, > > I'll make sure to say hi next time I run into you and your bike. > > Do you lock your bike outside pretty often? How's your experience been? > Any tips you can dispense? I've equipped my Sam with Pitlock on both > wheels and seatpost but have yet left it outside. It'd be really nice to > run errands on the bike, but I'm bit worried... > > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: shorter bolt for Pletscher Twin-Legger?
I went the other way. Switched from the allen and went to a hex. Much easier if you are mounting to a kickstand plate and need to get some torque on it. I find a hex wrench far to dainty while there are big tools available! I like the idea of a nylock. I think I'll try that too, Doug. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ozi2CR4A-_MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Green Ram touch-up paint
The bottle just came in. It looks pretty close but I'll get some on the bike this weekend. Ended up being less that $6 shipped. Thanks again for the tip. Dan On Feb 22, 12:04 pm, Leslie wrote: > Was the Emerald City close enough for your tastes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Uber-Tall Cockpit Dilemma
Thanks for the suggestion, but as the DD has an extension of 82mm, that wouldn't be helping me. I could live with the bars being level with the saddle, but a couple centimeters more extension would be really awesome. I'm not even sure that a technomic has that much more than a DD, but if it does, I may just go for the stem riser and technomic option. If only I had fully downed the Grant Petersen buy-a-size-up Kool-Aid when I was a greenhorned Rivver... On Feb 23, 4:22 pm, Peter Morgano wrote: > have you looked at the super tall periscopa? Ben's cycles has them in I > believe but with only 80mm extension might not be what you are looking for. > On Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM, "Mike S" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Now that I've been riding my ridiculously perfect-fitting 64cm Sam > > Hillborne a bit, it's become clear to me that my 64cm Quickbeam w/ > > Dirtdrop stem & moustache bars gives me less extension than is ideal. > > I impulsively bought the QB when it first debuted, and I should have > > gotten a 66 or 68 over the 64. Also, using the Nitto lugged seatpost > > as far back as possible, and it's still not enough reach. > > > In addition to not being enough reach, the Dirtdrop is at the minimum > > insertion line and it's only about even with the saddle, and I'd like > > it higher. The option I am most in favor of right now would be > > replacing the DD with a 13cm tallux, in the belief that a technomic > > would give me more horizontal extension than a DD, and the 3cm > > additional quill length would make up for the loss of up-angle. I'm > > also considering being slightly reckless and raising it above the min. > > insertion mark if I can't get enough height in regulation. > > > The other option would be to get the stem extension Riv sells and > > throw a technomic in there I guess, but the thought of the something > > so kludgy on an otherwise excessively nice setup is a little > > horrifying for my perfectionism to bear. > > > I'm just wondering if there are any of you tall dudes who've had > > similar issues with getting bikes to fit, and if my hypothesis will > > actually work in achieving more extension AND stem height. Thanks for > > any input! > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
That's an encouraging report, Brad! I guess I'll start with short grocery runs to Tribeca or Chinatown, once my bike is ready. I'm in the process of changing out the handlebar setup and re-cabling everything (and missing the good weather). I bought a Kryptonite New York lock, though not the model with the chain (it's heavy enough without the chain!). I think I remember seeing your saddle cover. So it actually helps to put on a cover? I have to find the cover that came with the Brooks box. What LSB do you recommend? Bike Works by the Williamsburg Bridge is my favorite. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/X4413qJ7xy8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.
First Look: http://www.pushingthepedals.com/2012/02/new-trinkets-from-rivendell-and-a-bike-calendar/ On Feb 21, 8:43 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761155589/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&t... > > http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/02/just-ride-radically... > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes
Could you post some photos when you get the bike built up? More rack mounts is a plus. My '03 Atlantis came with nothing on the fork, a situation I've since remedied. I seem to recall a while back there were going to be hourglass mounts on the fork for a Nitto mini-rack. Have low rider mounts been added? dougP On Feb 23, 12:01 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > For Atlantis frames made between, say 2003 and 2008-ish, I usually have a > pretty good eye for estimating the approximate vintage because of my > experience selling them and working on them during those years. Earlier > this week, we got a new 61cm Atlantis in for a customer. I noticed that it > has some different dropouts and rack braze-ons on the fork and seat stays, > not to mention lug detail variations compared to older examples. But above > all that, when we tried to put a standard SRAM chain on, the chain was very > close to being too short. I wondered about chainstay length, which turns > out to be a long 47 cm. I recall the older models having 43.5-44.5 cm > chainstays. Just thought this might be worth a mention for academic > purposes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] recent Atlantis changes
I used to think the lack of consistency along models years was frustrating, but now I think it's sort of charming. The variation over time reminds me that real people are responsible for Rivs, not robots. However, chain stays that are are so long that a standard chain won't wrap a 48/32 ( or whatever) is problematic! I guess the super long-n-low Rosco will be a single speed, or you'll just buy 2 chains? Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/d1zlWbLmdNgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant, in (or soon to be) in print.
Grant, Any possibility of a book tour, live readings etc.? Maybe your publisher can fly you out east and elsewhere. How about a read and ride? I'm looking forward to reading the book. -Norman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
I think Bike Works is great. I also like B's Bikes in Williamsburg, which is a little closer to my house. Both (in my experience) will treat you well whether you're buying something stupid like a spoke. Seat covers work for me. Keeps the seat dry when my butt isn't on it and makes it look cheap to discourage thieves (it helps that they develop holes that I patch with ragged pieces of duck tape). On Feb 23, 12:41 pm, Chris wrote: > That's an encouraging report, Brad! I guess I'll start with short grocery > runs to Tribeca or Chinatown, once my bike is ready. I'm in the process of > changing out the handlebar setup and re-cabling everything (and missing the > good weather). I bought a Kryptonite New York lock, though not the model > with the chain (it's heavy enough without the chain!). > > I think I remember seeing your saddle cover. So it actually helps to put > on a cover? I have to find the cover that came with the Brooks box. > > What LSB do you recommend? Bike Works by the Williamsburg Bridge is my > favorite. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
I've had a few lights stolen. I don't leave them on my bike anymore. But I have been leaving my saddlebag on for a while. Two or three years and it hasn't been stolen (knock on wood). My thinking is that people who steal bike parts don't know what they're worth and they're a little tricky to get off. Or I've just been lucky. On Feb 22, 3:52 pm, Peter F wrote: > Can't speak for Brad, but I lock my Atlantis outside short term when > I'm running errands. Knock on wood, I haven't had any problems yet. At > least not with the bike itself. Had my headlight stolen once because I > forgot and left it on the bike. And I take any saddlebags, handlebar > bags off when lock it too. I generally just use one of the Kryptonite > NYC u-locks, usually through the front wheel and frame, but if I'm > leaving it for a longer time I'll also use a heavy duty cable lock > through the rear wheel and frame too. > > My impression is that bike theft rates vary widely from neighborhood > to neighborhood. But maybe I've just been lucky too. > > I figure the Atlantis is for riding. If it gets stolen or vandalized, > well, it would be pretty annoying and an inconvenience for sure, but > just another excuse to save my pennies and go shopping at Rivbike.com > again. > > On Feb 22, 9:39 am, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Brad, > > > I'll make sure to say hi next time I run into you and your bike. > > > Do you lock your bike outside pretty often? How's your experience been? > > Any tips you can dispense? I've equipped my Sam with Pitlock on both > > wheels and seatpost but have yet left it outside. It'd be really nice to > > run errands on the bike, but I'm bit worried... > > > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: shorter bolt for Pletscher Twin-Legger?
I just threaded a nut on the long bolt and sawed off 3/4 of the length with a hacksaw. Cleaned up the edge with a file and removing the nut chased the threads. I used a ratchet to tighten the bolt on the bike. I also did away with the top plate since my Kogswell has a kickstand plate. Used a big washer, too. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM, geosat wrote: > I went the other way. Switched from the allen and went to a hex. Much > easier if you are mounting to a kickstand plate and need to get some torque > on it. I find a hex wrench far to dainty while there are big tools > available! > > I like the idea of a nylock. I think I'll try that too, Doug. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ozi2CR4A-_MJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] recent Atlantis changes
No low rider mounts. That would be nice. The Tubus Duo is a favorite rack of mine. There are threaded holes in the top of the crown. I have a few ideas for that, but maybe there's a devoted rack? The front dropouts are like little satan heads with horns sticking out. The seat stays have three hourglass braze-ons in each side - top, middle, and bottom - in addition to the double eyelets on the dropouts. The chainstay length with an XT long cage rder and a 46/32(or 34) combo maxed out a 114L SRAM chain. I don't think it would have worked with a 48t big ring and/or a 36t big cog. But the heel clearance with panniers must be amazing! Sorry. No pics, and the Atlantis has left the building. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/B5LDZkTTQkIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
Sorry having had bikes stolen in Brooklyn before I would never lock up an Atlantis or my homer outside, being out my 200 dollar nishiki is one thing being out my right would be another. Seen so many Cl posts about bikes stolen and especially in hipsterburg. On Feb 23, 2012 9:16 PM, "Brad" wrote: > I've had a few lights stolen. I don't leave them on my bike anymore. > But I have been leaving my saddlebag on for a while. Two or three > years and it hasn't been stolen (knock on wood). My thinking is that > people who steal bike parts don't know what they're worth and they're > a little tricky to get off. Or I've just been lucky. > > On Feb 22, 3:52 pm, Peter F wrote: > > Can't speak for Brad, but I lock my Atlantis outside short term when > > I'm running errands. Knock on wood, I haven't had any problems yet. At > > least not with the bike itself. Had my headlight stolen once because I > > forgot and left it on the bike. And I take any saddlebags, handlebar > > bags off when lock it too. I generally just use one of the Kryptonite > > NYC u-locks, usually through the front wheel and frame, but if I'm > > leaving it for a longer time I'll also use a heavy duty cable lock > > through the rear wheel and frame too. > > > > My impression is that bike theft rates vary widely from neighborhood > > to neighborhood. But maybe I've just been lucky too. > > > > I figure the Atlantis is for riding. If it gets stolen or vandalized, > > well, it would be pretty annoying and an inconvenience for sure, but > > just another excuse to save my pennies and go shopping at Rivbike.com > > again. > > > > On Feb 22, 9:39 am, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Brad, > > > > > I'll make sure to say hi next time I run into you and your bike. > > > > > Do you lock your bike outside pretty often? How's your experience > been? > > > Any tips you can dispense? I've equipped my Sam with Pitlock on both > > > wheels and seatpost but have yet left it outside. It'd be really nice > to > > > run errands on the bike, but I'm bit worried... > > > > > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Battle Bots in the Amazon store
While I don't expect everyone to grok, this was too cool not to share: http://carlos.bueno.org/2012/02/bots-seized-control.html Riv content, hey Grant's got a new book coming out himself. Best, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MRh1ZawyKSQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes
Three hourglass braze-ons on the seat stays sounds like a couple of them got mis-placed. And haven't there been other models with the threaded holes in the fork crown? For tours where the bike gets shipped & assembled at the start, bolting on front racks when the fork has dedicated mounts is a snap. I've also got hourglass mounts for the little Nitto front rack. Sure beats all the futzing around with clamps when you're sticking a bike together far from home. About those long chainstays, think about the foot size of the rider of a 61 cm. On my 58, my size 11s clear panniers but I've got the Nitto Big Back rack which lets the bags stay well back. A shorter rack or bigger bags like some of the Ortleibs could be close. dougP On Feb 23, 7:02 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > No low rider mounts. That would be nice. The Tubus Duo is a favorite rack of > mine. There are threaded holes in the top of the crown. I have a few ideas > for that, but maybe there's a devoted rack? The front dropouts are like > little satan heads with horns sticking out. > > The seat stays have three hourglass braze-ons in each side - top, middle, and > bottom - in addition to the double eyelets on the dropouts. > > The chainstay length with an XT long cage rder and a 46/32(or 34) combo maxed > out a 114L SRAM chain. I don't think it would have worked with a 48t big ring > and/or a 36t big cog. But the heel clearance with panniers must be amazing! > > Sorry. No pics, and the Atlantis has left the building. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Drop Bar Newbie Qs
I've always had straight or upright bars. Went with mustache bars when I bought my Hilsen in September. I've been riding the M's for half a year and don't hate them but haven't fallen in love with them either. I've decided it's time to try a different handlebar. I suspect I may be on the path to being an early adopter of the New Bar. In the mean time... I've been sitting on a 48cm noodle bar bought off the list here. Today I removed the M's and put on the noodles. I tried them out with 2 stems... 7cm and 9cm. My riding style/pace is pretty casual so I imagine most of my riding will be on the tops or on the hoods. With the 7cm stem the tops are kinda too close but not deal-breader bad, the hoods are fine and the drops are close/comfortable enough that I could see myself using them. With the 9cm stem the tops are in a great place, the hoods seem like a good aggressive position, but the drops are so far forward that I'm not sure I would use them hardly ever. These are all first impressions from a couple laps around the block by a guy who's only ever ridden drops a few times on friends' bikes. I would love to hear people's opinion's on balancing the aggressive vs leisurely positions/set-up on a drop bar. This may all be a moot point If I go with the New Bar next month but it's fun to fiddle with for now. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9NWyAOzqx_AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Brooks Saddle Squeaks
My Brooks Champion Special squeaks when I ride it. I had it off my bike for a couple of years but I missed the looks and feel so I remounted it a couple of weeks ago and for a while it was quiet but now the noise is back. I hate noisey bikes. It is impossible for me to tell where the saddle is squeaking. Any ideas on how to quiet the beast? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs
Noodles are a lovely shape, but the drops are pretty deep. I had them on a number of bikes, but nearly never rode in the drops. Now all my bikes are sporting compact bars from FSA. The reach to tops and hoods is definitely shorter than Noodles, but with shorter reach to the drops, and more extension of the drop rearward, for the first time in my later years, I ride in the drops on a regular basis. I sometimes wish for a longer flat section approaching the hoods, but FSA Omega compact bars suit me quite well. Omegas are made only for 31.8 bars, but Soma and Origin 8 and others make them for 26.0. Oh yeah, some think compact bars don't look cool and traditional and I agree. But we make choices. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CzlpILYXKd8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle Squeaks
Bees wax or grease on the rail clamps and the seat post bolts. Then tighten 'em. Works for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hzNh2Ru2tj8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes
The Bombadil has threaded holes in the top of the fork, although I'm not quite sure what the threading is. I couldn't get an M4 screw in there, but it could just be full of paint. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BK_L8K2YdFoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Chilly Hilly 2012?
Any Rivendellians considering the Chilly Hilly this Sunday? I'm in, and hope to be on the 8:45 a.m. boat. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs
Smitty, I'm in a similar situation with Noodles. I'm pretty sure the stem length on my Sam is right for me at 8 cm (down from 10), but I can't figure out if I want to adjust the height up or down. As it is, the hoods are good but perhaps a bit high. But I wouldn't mind the drops a little higher. I was thinking about Albas, but maybe a more differently shaped drop bar would make more sense. Jay On Feb 24, 6:29 am, Smitty-A-Go-Go <54ca...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've always had straight or upright bars. Went with mustache bars when I > bought my Hilsen in September. I've been riding the M's for half a year and > don't hate them but haven't fallen in love with them either. I've decided > it's time to try a different handlebar. I suspect I may be on the path to > being an early adopter of the New Bar. In the mean time... I've been > sitting on a 48cm noodle bar bought off the list here. Today I removed the > M's and put on the noodles. I tried them out with 2 stems... 7cm and 9cm. > > My riding style/pace is pretty casual so I imagine most of my riding will > be on the tops or on the hoods. > > With the 7cm stem the tops are kinda too close but not deal-breader bad, > the hoods are fine and the drops are close/comfortable enough that I could > see myself using them. > > With the 9cm stem the tops are in a great place, the hoods seem like a good > aggressive position, but the drops are so far forward that I'm not sure I > would use them hardly ever. > > These are all first impressions from a couple laps around the block by a > guy who's only ever ridden drops a few times on friends' bikes. > > I would love to hear people's opinion's on balancing the aggressive vs > leisurely positions/set-up on a drop bar. This may all be a moot point If > I go with the New Bar next month but it's fun to fiddle with for now. > > --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Good Rivendell Stem Review
http://road.cc/content/review/53286-nitto-lugged-quill-stem -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs
I'm transitioning to drop bars for the rando season, and I've decided that the drops are there for wind and stretching the back only (for me). I generally ride on the hoods, or on the flat curves on my similar Nitto B115 (deep drops). The flats to hoods give me as much real-estate as my Porteur bars (albeit stretching the other way). With enough bar height, and the right reach, I'm fine in the neck and hands dept, and always have the drops if I'm heading into a nasty headwind and need to get more aero, or more power. Brian Seattle On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: > Smitty, > > I'm in a similar situation with Noodles. I'm pretty sure the stem > length on my Sam is right for me at 8 cm (down from 10), but I can't > figure out if I want to adjust the height up or down. > > As it is, the hoods are good but perhaps a bit high. But I wouldn't > mind the drops a little higher. > I was thinking about Albas, but maybe a more differently shaped drop > bar would make more sense. > > Jay > > On Feb 24, 6:29 am, Smitty-A-Go-Go <54ca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've always had straight or upright bars. Went with mustache bars when I > > bought my Hilsen in September. I've been riding the M's for half a year > and > > don't hate them but haven't fallen in love with them either. I've decided > > it's time to try a different handlebar. I suspect I may be on the path to > > being an early adopter of the New Bar. In the mean time... I've been > > sitting on a 48cm noodle bar bought off the list here. Today I removed > the > > M's and put on the noodles. I tried them out with 2 stems... 7cm and > 9cm. > > > > My riding style/pace is pretty casual so I imagine most of my riding will > > be on the tops or on the hoods. > > > > With the 7cm stem the tops are kinda too close but not deal-breader bad, > > the hoods are fine and the drops are close/comfortable enough that I > could > > see myself using them. > > > > With the 9cm stem the tops are in a great place, the hoods seem like a > good > > aggressive position, but the drops are so far forward that I'm not sure I > > would use them hardly ever. > > > > These are all first impressions from a couple laps around the block by a > > guy who's only ever ridden drops a few times on friends' bikes. > > > > I would love to hear people's opinion's on balancing the aggressive vs > > leisurely positions/set-up on a drop bar. This may all be a moot point > If > > I go with the New Bar next month but it's fun to fiddle with for now. > > > > --Smitty > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Chilly Hilly 2012?
Yes - I will likely be there if it's not snowing :) Brian Seattle On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:15 PM, awilliams53 wrote: > Any Rivendellians considering the Chilly Hilly this Sunday? > > I'm in, and hope to be on the 8:45 a.m. boat. > > Andy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Thief of Expensive Bicycles Caught in N.Ca
There seems to have been a lot of postings here about bicycles stolen from garages lately. If you're in northern CA you might want to read this: http://www.chicoer.com/breakingnews/ci_20030958 Police said the bicycles, some selling for more than $8,000, came from several burglaries around the north state [...] Victims who have had expensive bicycles stolen from their residence is asked to contact property crimes detectives at 897-5825. A serial number, license number or specific identifying information is requested. *(the area code for Chico is 530)* -Rex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
