[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

[Michael Hechmer]

Gee Phil, I'm sorry to hear you have had such bad luck with brakes.  We're 
glad you're still alive.  Some cantis and some canti - lever combinations 
are indeed more trouble than their worth, but that's not true of all cantis. 
A good set of brakes will last as long, or even longer than a frame, so 
those no reason not to spring for really good ones. Pauls cantis have a 
short learning curve, as do most mechanical things, but once you get it, 
they are a snap to set up, as are the Racers.  I always set brakes up as 
high on the rim as I can, and have not had a problem with wear or diving.  I 
would also argue that single pivot brakes are pretty easy to live with.  You 
need a 13 mm offset cone wrench to align them, and they can get knocked out 
of alignment, but it is literally a 5 second job straightening them.  I have 
a pair of Campy Grand Sports which I bought in the early '80s and a pair of 
very early Chorus (the pretty ones with the split arms) from the late '80s 
and they both continue to work as well as they did when they were brand new. 
 I will admit that dual pivots have a lighter touch but they crowd fenders a 
lot more than single pivots.  Maybe its like friction shifters, if you 
didn't start with them it might be frustrating to get up the learning curve. 
 

Good news, I have no back pain this morning, and a chiroparctor appointment 
at which I'm hoping to get the green light to resume riding.  Now lets see 
if I can find some intact roads in VT!

michael

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[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

[Earl Grey]

I have always liked cantis, and the Tektro 720s are my favorites. I
have disc brakes (Avid BB7 wit h8" rotors) on one tandem (didn't have
a choice, and thought may as well give them a chance. Every few rides
I need to adjust the pads because they rub. In the rain, they squeal
like crazy. Don't see the advantage over cantis. I have also had the
last generation of single pivot Campy sidepulls. They were fine, but
not as nice as cantis.

V brakes have lot's of stopping power (with special levers) and I
concur that they look terrible. In addition, they are so powerful that
lightweight riders can very easily endo. My 100 lb ex did that once
while cruising at 12mph or so in the park, casually grabbing the brake
to come to a stop on a low-end Cannondale mtn bike. So try some Tektro
CR720s with Koolstop pads before going to V-brakes, and warn your wife
about their grabbiness and high power.

Cheers,

Gernot


On Aug 31, 6:33 am, dougP  wrote:
> Michael:
>
> Thanks for sharing your experiences.  I plan to try a high profile
> canti set-up on my wife's Atlantis as a first measure.  Hopefully that
> will replicate the braking performance of her old bike.  If not, I'll
> look into V-brakes & new levers, but that probably has its own
> learning curve.
>
> dougP
>
> On Aug 30, 2:53 pm, Michael Hechmer  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Doug, you pose the perfect question for me to share my experience with
> > cantilevers and why I continue to believe in hi straddle and hi profile
> > cantis.
>
> > My first experience with cantis, after years of good riding with Campy Grand
> > Sport LR brakes and Chorus SR brakes came around 2000, when I bought a SOMA
> > DBL Cross for commuting and had it outfitted with my first Ultegra 9 spd.
> > system and the then new Ultegra Low Profile canti brakes.   The bike and
> > brakes were installed by the best mechanic in VT, including the very short
> > straddle wire supplied by Shimano.  Braking was awful, downright scary for
> > commuting.  I replaced the pads with Salmons and that helped somewhat.  I
> > finally abandoned the SIS brifters, replacing with Cane Creek & Silver
> > shiftes and the braking rose to the level of OK.  Setup, with Shimano
> > Brifters, was also pretty tedious and the brakes needed to be re-centered
> > every time I put the bike into the back of the car or did any almost thing
> > else.  The brifters, which were designed for short reach side pulls, simply
> > did not work together with cants.  I have avoided low profile brakes (and
> > briftes) ever since.
>
> > After a poor-braking-near-death-experience, I bought a pair of hi profile
> > Pauls and found that with a very hi straddle wire, as recommended by Paul, I
> > had easy set up and great braking.
>
> > My next experience with Cantis was a pair of hi profile, short arm di comp
> > which came on a 1984 Trek 620 I bought on ebay.  Much to my surprise these
> > brakes also delivered mediocre power, even with salmon pads.
>
> > Now my Ram and my tandem have Paul's Racer Ms and Racers respectively.  My
> > Ebisu has neo retros with a hi straddle wire and my now pretty beat up
> > winter bike SOMA has those di comps, which I'm planning on replacing with
> > Tektros and a hi straddle wire.
>
> > When I was much younger I would say, "Who needs brakes, they just slow you
> > down!"  Now, medicare not withstanding, I really like having brakes I can
> > rely on.  Intimations of mortality no doubt.
>
> > michael
> > recovering from lower back strain and Irene, in Vermont

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[RBW] FS: 13-30 9sp cassette Harris Century Special

[stevep33]

13-30 cassette, 9 speed Shimano compatible.

It is a Harris Cyclery Century Special (http://harriscyclery.net/
product/harris-cyclery-century-special-13-30-9-speed-
cassette-702.htm).   13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30.  About 800 miles.
Condition is great.  Very light wear.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988383@N06/6100057846/in/photostream

$55 via Paypal (includes shipping in CONUS)
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[RBW] Looking for a VO Viva Saddlebag Support

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

I'm surprised. Are you saying a 5" standoff is just too long? That may be. But 
I also have an old-style Acorn "Large" saddlebag and am able to use it with a 
stand-off I made. It might've been 5"; I don't know. But I definitely had my 
saddle slammed back and am able to use the bag with this standoff. I'll have to 
measure it all.

Good luck with your ViVa search!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Anyone want to trade? My Moustache for your Albatross?

[jinxed]

Thanks for all the alternate trade offers! For now I want to find specifically 
the aluminum albatross bar since I have previously tried one with good results 
and it keeps the trade even. 

Thanks,
Brad

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[RBW] Re: FS: 13-30 9sp cassette Harris Century Special

[stevep33]

sold

On Aug 31, 9:43 am, stevep33  wrote:
> 13-30 cassette, 9 speed Shimano compatible.
>
> It is a Harris Cyclery Century Special (http://harriscyclery.net/
> product/harris-cyclery-century-special-13-30-9-speed-
> cassette-702.htm).   13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30.  About 800 miles.
> Condition is great.  Very light wear.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988383@N06/6100057846/in/photostream
>
> $55 via Paypal (includes shipping in CONUS)
> Contact off list please steve...@gmail.com

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[RBW] WTB brooks b17or imperial

[MTrise]

Simple as that. In black.  Never seem to be quick enough on this board
when one is listed for sale.  Thanks.  Will be shipping to bozeman,
mt.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone want to trade? My Moustache for your Albatross?

[rb]

How about for a Sycip wonder bar? It's an interesting alternative to the 
Alba; I like them both.  

Ron

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[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

[Patrick in VT]

On Aug 30, 9:06 pm, grant  wrote:

> As the book points out, and as anybody who tries it will see, your
> blood scores vastly improve when you eat fat and protein

there's more than 1 book and countless studies that say the opposite.
again, weight loss vs. health.  lose weight, eat fatty foods, and keep
exercise to a minimum ... doesn't sound like a recipe for reducing the
risk of heart disease.  When roughly two thirds of Americans (to keep
this conservation ethnocentric - because, as others have noted, the
rest of the carb-eating world isn't epidemically fat) are overweight/
obese, I do understand the emphasis on weight loss - and I think it's
great that folks are finding ways of shedding the weight, whether it's
with Taubes or their local weight watchers class.  whatever works.

but obesity isn't the only epidemic we're dealing with.  heart
disease, cancers, and chronic health issues can all be related to diet
and nutrition (or lack thereof) too.  diets that lead to disease have
the following markers:

-High in animal fats and protein
-High in unhealthy fats (saturated/trans)
-Low in fiber
-High in processed/packaged foods
-Low in complex carbs
-Low in plant-based foods

not coincidentally, these are also the markers of a diet (which can
rightly be called an American diet) that lead to obesity.

can one lose weight on this diet?  absolutely.  does one also lose the
risk of disease that goes hand in hand with these diet markers?
absolutely not.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

[CycloFiend]

on 8/31/11 5:15 AM, Earl Grey at earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have always liked cantis, and the Tektro 720s are my favorites. I
> have disc brakes (Avid BB7 wit h8" rotors) on one tandem (didn't have
> a choice, and thought may as well give them a chance. Every few rides
> I need to adjust the pads because they rub. In the rain, they squeal
> like crazy. Don't see the advantage over cantis. I have also had the
> last generation of single pivot Campy sidepulls. They were fine, but
> not as nice as cantis.
> 
> V brakes have lot's of stopping power (with special levers) and I
> concur that they look terrible. In addition, they are so powerful that
> lightweight riders can very easily endo. My 100 lb ex did that once
> while cruising at 12mph or so in the park, casually grabbing the brake
> to come to a stop on a low-end Cannondale mtn bike. So try some Tektro
> CR720s with Koolstop pads before going to V-brakes, and warn your wife
> about their grabbiness and high power.


The real rub with V-Brakes (or specifically, linear pull) is that they tend
to be on or off. It's a matter of the pressure your hands are used to
applying, and the more time you spend running canti brakes, the more
ingrained it becomes. You can get used to the difference, but you can also
really hurt yourself - especially when jumping to a bicycle with different
brakes. 

Braking 101 Review
Most of the people I've encountered who complain of poor braking performance
have brakes that feel "hard" at the lever. That's the antithesis of power.
It's also about learning how to effectively use the front brake.  I was out
at the trails and listened to some "teacher" from a local outdoor shop
carefully explaining to new mountain bikers that they should never use their
front brake, because it would cause them to crash.  Piffle and hogwash, to
be sure, but the wrong techniques are out there...

Quick Brake Setup Thoughts
Of course, the main reason the switch to lp brakes caught on was that they
were bone-simple to set up. For shops where you are building a ton of bikes
every day, this was/is important. With cantis, there are a few more
variables, and the problem is that you tend to change one while attempting
to adjust the other.  But, when canti designs incorporated the multi-washer
pad adjustment systems of lp brakes, things got better.  Here's the
procedure which I found helps mimic quickie-lp setup:

pre - make sure wheel is centered in the dropouts - work on the same side of
the bike as the brake arm unless specified.
1 - release straddle wire.  (let's start front left)
2 - cupping the brake pad assembly from below with your left hand, use your
thumb on the same hand to position the arm so it is vertical (i.e. at 90
degrees, i.e. perpendicular to the ground.
3 - while maintaining that position, loosen and position the brake pad so it
is 90 degrees from the arm, and touching the rim (flat is ok at this point)
The trick here is to not move the arm, which should be pretty much lined up
with the fork blade, lock the pad down in this position, which applies the
most power to the rim.
4 - do the same to the opposing arm
5 - connect the straddle cable.  If you cannot see if you can change the
straddle relation easily.  Otherwise back off the pads a smidge until you
get appropriate clearance
6 - make sure things are even, when viewed from the front.
7 - if you didn't back off the pads, check that they have enough clearance
at this point.  
8 - now go back and set toe-in


4  - 


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gernot
> 
> 
> On Aug 31, 6:33 am, dougP  wrote:
>> Michael:
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing your experiences.  I plan to try a high profile
>> canti set-up on my wife's Atlantis as a first measure.  Hopefully that
>> will replicate the braking performance of her old bike.  If not, I'll
>> look into V-brakes & new levers, but that probably has its own
>> learning curve.
>> 
>> dougP
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2:53 pm, Michael Hechmer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Doug, you pose the perfect question for me to share my experience with
>>> cantilevers and why I continue to believe in hi straddle and hi profile
>>> cantis.
>> 
>>> My first experience with cantis, after years of good riding with Campy Grand
>>> Sport LR brakes and Chorus SR brakes came around 2000, when I bought a SOMA
>>> DBL Cross for commuting and had it outfitted with my first Ultegra 9 spd.
>>> system and the then new Ultegra Low Profile canti brakes.   The bike and
>>> brakes were installed by the best mechanic in VT, including the very short
>>> straddle wire supplied by Shimano.  Braking was awful, downright scary for
>>> commuting.  I replaced the pads with Salmons and that helped somewhat.  I
>>> finally abandoned the SIS brifters, replacing with Cane Creek & Silver
>>> shiftes and the braking rose to the level of OK.  Setup, with Shimano
>>> Brifters, was also pretty tedious and the brakes needed to be re-centered
>>> every time I put the bike into the back of the car or did any almost thin

[RBW] 8/27 Visit to RBW HQ

[Marty]

Had a chance for a quick visit to HQ with my son when I was in town over the 
weekend. Always a good time with lots to see. The game is still on, but 
neither me or my son came close to hanging a lug. Grant did his best too, 
but no luck while we were there. Wanted to stay longer, but had other things 
to do in SF. It's always nice to see the bikes in person - they all look so 
much better in the flesh. The Simpleone green is really nice. Another 
customer had her dog along, and it had really cool eyes - almost like Betty 
Foy! 
 
Thanks to Grant for talking the time to chat a bit. I look forward to my 
next visit.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/sets/72157627438239523/
 
Marty

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Re: [RBW] PBP 2011 Ride Photos - a set on Flickr

[Bruce Herbitter]

A friend from here in AL also did the ride on steel. His was a MASI fixie.
Lookiing forward to scanning your pictures when I get home.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> My photos from Paris-Brest-Paris, which I completed on a lugged steel,
> friction-shifting, leather-saddled road bike:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627550599380/
>
> Watch for my complete video of the adventure, coming soon!
>
> --Eric
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> www.campyonly.com
> www.wheelsnorth.org
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[RBW] Re: 8/27 Visit to RBW HQ

[Joe Bernard]

Not a fan of the Roadeo name, but those white/red bikes sure are pretty, eh? 

 
Joe "what's in a name" Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

[Lyle Bogart]

This has been a very interesting thread to follow and I’ve been reluctant to
join in as I feel I’ve nothing terribly relevant to add to the many voices
which have already spoken here.
However, I think it is too easy to overstate the detrimental qualities of
certain foods:
". . . obesity isn't the only epidemic we're dealing with.  heart
disease, cancers, and chronic health issues can all be related to diet
and nutrition (or lack thereof) too.  diets that lead to disease have
the following markers:
-High in animal fats and protein
-High in unhealthy fats (saturated/trans)
-Low in fiber
-High in processed/packaged foods
-Low in complex carbs
-Low in plant-based foods. . . "

Well, not necessarily so.  The Amish have been studied extensively (or as
extensively as can be done given difficulties involving technology) for the
very reason of the high prevalence of high fat, high protein diets, obesity
rates vastly below that of non-Amish America, vastly lower cancer rates
(except perhaps breast cancer) than non-Amish America.

Along with their high fat, high protein, moderate carbs diet, the Amish
expend a great deal of energy daily.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17473766

http://www.endo-society.org/media/ENDO-07/research/Amish-children-tend-not-to-be-overweight-thanks-to-exercise.cfm

http://www.cancergenetics.med.ohio-state.edu/article.cfm?ID=5307



Of course, as some folks here have already mentioned, there’s a big
difference between not becoming overweight and trying to reduce body weight.
. .

I’ll return to my seat now J
lyle



On 31 August 2011 11:33, Patrick in VT  wrote:

> On Aug 30, 9:06 pm, grant  wrote:
>
> > As the book points out, and as anybody who tries it will see, your
> > blood scores vastly improve when you eat fat and protein
>
> there's more than 1 book and countless studies that say the opposite.
> again, weight loss vs. health.  lose weight, eat fatty foods, and keep
> exercise to a minimum ... doesn't sound like a recipe for reducing the
> risk of heart disease.  When roughly two thirds of Americans (to keep
> this conservation ethnocentric - because, as others have noted, the
> rest of the carb-eating world isn't epidemically fat) are overweight/
> obese, I do understand the emphasis on weight loss - and I think it's
> great that folks are finding ways of shedding the weight, whether it's
> with Taubes or their local weight watchers class.  whatever works.
>
> but obesity isn't the only epidemic we're dealing with.  heart
> disease, cancers, and chronic health issues can all be related to diet
> and nutrition (or lack thereof) too.  diets that lead to disease have
> the following markers:
>
> -High in animal fats and protein
> -High in unhealthy fats (saturated/trans)
> -Low in fiber
> -High in processed/packaged foods
> -Low in complex carbs
> -Low in plant-based foods
>
> not coincidentally, these are also the markers of a diet (which can
> rightly be called an American diet) that lead to obesity.
>
> can one lose weight on this diet?  absolutely.  does one also lose the
> risk of disease that goes hand in hand with these diet markers?
> absolutely not.
>
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[RBW] Re: PBP 2011 Ride Photos - a set on Flickr

[Jeff]

Eric, great pics!  I did the 90 hour start on my almost a year old
baby blue Rivendell custom with Berthoud bags.  I saw several Atlantis
at the bike check and encountered a Hilsen, saw many Boulder Bicycles,
but didn't see any other customs.  I did see a couple of French gents
on Alex Singers (an older fellow on a black one and another guy on a
blue one.)  I struggled to communicate with each of them.  The older
guy managed to come out with a joking,"You-- and your Rivendell!"

The controls look sparsely populated compared to my experience.  The
rain that hit us between St. Nic and Carhaix caused me to give up on
my sleeping plans.  I actually didn't get any sleep until Quedellac on
the way back in (about mile 530!)

I look forward to seeing your video.

Jeff

On Aug 30, 9:21 am, Eric Norris  wrote:
> My photos from Paris-Brest-Paris, which I completed on a lugged steel, 
> friction-shifting, leather-saddled road bike:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627550599380/
>
> Watch for my complete video of the adventure, coming soon!
>
> --Eric
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RE: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Those green ano Pauls stop REALLY well.  ;-) 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5645451309/in/set-72157626433454817

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To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro 
CR720)

I look back on the last 15 years of my cycling life, and I gotta say.
Cantis suck. Single pivot sidepulls suck. The disc brakes on my weirdo project 
bike brake very well, but go 'shk shk shk' in corners. The nicer Avid v-brakes 
on my 1999 Bontrager have, aside from the initial squealy pads ("hey, someone 
set these up without ceramic pads, let me change that for you")... have been 
absolutely trouble free for 11 years. I've changed the pads a couple times. 
They have excellent modulation, good stopping in wet or dry; I can do nosies on 
purpose, but never on accident (well, once).

Cantis for me are a crapshoot. I've set up dynamite dialed-in cantis a couple 
times, and as the pad wears, the braking degrades. Sometimes the canti arm 
dives under the rim (well, once). I study the charts, change out the pads (why 
should you even have to DO this?), finesse the setup, and then forget 
everything I learned the next time I have to set them up from scratch.

I just hate the way v-brakes look on a roadified bike. They look like ass. I 
can't imagine putting them on my Quickbeam, but I don't want to sell a bike 
just to buy some green anodized Paul cantis.

Actually, maybe I do.

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com



On Aug 30, 4:33 pm, dougP  wrote:
> Michael:
>
> Thanks for sharing your experiences.  I plan to try a high profile 
> canti set-up on my wife's Atlantis as a first measure.  Hopefully that 
> will replicate the braking performance of her old bike.  If not, I'll 
> look into V-brakes & new levers, but that probably has its own 
> learning curve.
>
> dougP
>
> On Aug 30, 2:53 pm, Michael Hechmer  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Doug, you pose the perfect question for me to share my experience 
> > with cantilevers and why I continue to believe in hi straddle and hi 
> > profile cantis.
>
> > My first experience with cantis, after years of good riding with 
> > Campy Grand Sport LR brakes and Chorus SR brakes came around 2000, 
> > when I bought a SOMA DBL Cross for commuting and had it outfitted with my 
> > first Ultegra 9 spd.
> > system and the then new Ultegra Low Profile canti brakes.   The bike 
> > and brakes were installed by the best mechanic in VT, including the 
> > very short straddle wire supplied by Shimano.  Braking was awful, 
> > downright scary for commuting.  I replaced the pads with Salmons and 
> > that helped somewhat.  I finally abandoned the SIS brifters, 
> > replacing with Cane Creek & Silver shiftes and the braking rose to 
> > the level of OK.  Setup, with Shimano Brifters, was also pretty 
> > tedious and the brakes needed to be re-centered every time I put the 
> > bike into the back of the car or did any almost thing else.  The 
> > brifters, which were designed for short reach side pulls, simply did 
> > not work together with cants.  I have avoided low profile brakes 
> > (and
> > briftes) ever since.
>
> > After a poor-braking-near-death-experience, I bought a pair of hi 
> > profile Pauls and found that with a very hi straddle wire, as 
> > recommended by Paul, I had easy set up and great braking.
>
> > My next experience with Cantis was a pair of hi profile, short arm 
> > di comp which came on a 1984 Trek 620 I bought on ebay.  Much to my 
> > surprise these brakes also delivered mediocre power, even with salmon pads.
>
> > Now my Ram and my tandem have Paul's Racer Ms and Racers 
> > respectively.  My Ebisu has neo retros with a hi straddle wire and 
> > my now pretty beat up winter bike SOMA has those di comps, which I'm 
> > planning on replacing with Tektros and a hi straddle wire.
>
> > When I was much younger I would say, "Who needs brakes, they just 
> > slow you down!"  Now, medicare not withstanding, I really like 
> > having brakes I can rely on.  Intimations of mortality no doubt.
>
> > michael
> > recovering from lower back strain and Irene, in Vermont

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:42:07 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
 

 

>
> The real rub with V-Brakes (or specifically, linear pull) is that they tend
> to be on or off. It's a matter of the pressure your hands are used to
> applying, and the more time you spend running canti brakes, the more
> ingrained it becomes. You can get used to the difference, but you can also
> really hurt yourself - especially when jumping to a bicycle with different
> brakes. 
>
 


> -- 
> Jim Edgar
> cyclo...@earthlink.net
>
 
Ah-ha! This goes a long way towards explaining why lots of people seem not 
to like linear-pull brakes. Perhaps It's an area where having a certain 
minimum amount of mass on the bike and having *less* experience actually 
mitigates an issue. That is, I've had only linear-pull brakes in my recent 
riding. And they feel relatively smooth and controllable... perhaps because 
they are fighting a substantial load (at least me, at 245lbs). I think with 
my kind of payload, there's a big difference in the hand-effort required 
to (1) merely engage the brake and (2) stop the bike. Fortunately, I also 
have strong hands (years of piano lessons). So, while going from (1) to (2) 
for a lighter-weight cyclist might be startingly quick and difficult 
control, for me it seems reasonably gradual, easy to manipulate, and never 
gets too difficult. I've never thought I was missing anything using 
linear-pull brakes. But I do realize that my current brakes and levers (both 
from Paul Components) were each an improvement in feel and control. And 
together they are quite nice. So perhaps after about a year with these I'd 
feel that my old $20 Tektros or $40 Shimanos, both with Tektro levers, are 
somehow wanting. Hard to say. But I do know they worked fine for me at the 
time.
 
Now, as to other comments about the looks of linear-pull brakes... well, to 
some extent I agree. Not so much that linear-pull brakes are ugly or even 
particularly unattractive. But some canti-brakes I've seen are works of art. 
And I like the simple elegance of some sidepull brakes as well. So to me 
it's more like linear pull brakes are kind of a "lost opportunity" for 
beauty than an actual blemish. I happen to like the way the Motolite sort of 
echoes the soldier-y image of the fork crown in front. And in general I like 
the Paul Components aesthetic.
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
 

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[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

[Patrick in VT]

On Aug 31, 12:54 pm, Lyle Bogart  wrote:

> Well, not necessarily so.  The Amish have been studied extensively (or as
> extensively as can be done given difficulties involving technology) for the
> very reason of the high prevalence of high fat, high protein diets, obesity
> rates vastly below that of non-Amish America, vastly lower cancer rates
> (except perhaps breast cancer) than non-Amish America.

okay.  so a select group of people with a genetic make-up that makes
them more resistant lung cancer can smoke and have lower rates of lung
cancer compared to the general population.  ergo, smoking does "not
necessarily" lead to increased risk of lung cancer for people who
don't share those genes?  same logic, right?  If so, I'm not sure I
find the Amish counterpoint persuasive.

FWIW, I recall reading somewhere that heart disease is still the
leading cause of death in Amish communities, despite some genetic
resistance to it.  which isn't shocking.

anyway, i don't mean to overstate anything about any foods . .. i
simply called some foods "markers."  these diet markers turn up over
in over in cases of disease and obesity.  that's an irrefutable fact.
are they the sole cause?  no, of course not.  and I never stated (or
overstated) that they were.  genetics play a role.  environment plays
a role.  lifestyle plays a role.  those are all part of the health
equation.

I'm officially out of this one, but will gladly debate offlist!  It's
an important discussion.  and I know it's intensely personal for some
(myself included).

Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: PBP 2011 Ride Photos - a set on Flickr

[Bill Pustow]

Yes, the controls look a lot sparser than my (orange Hilsen) 90 hour start. 
That might be the way to go next time. Any thoughts, Eric or others? 
Bill, Louisville, Ky
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On Aug 31, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jeff  wrote:

> Eric, great pics!  I did the 90 hour start on my almost a year old
> baby blue Rivendell custom with Berthoud bags.  I saw several Atlantis
> at the bike check and encountered a Hilsen, saw many Boulder Bicycles,
> but didn't see any other customs.  I did see a couple of French gents
> on Alex Singers (an older fellow on a black one and another guy on a
> blue one.)  I struggled to communicate with each of them.  The older
> guy managed to come out with a joking,"You-- and your Rivendell!"
> 
> The controls look sparsely populated compared to my experience.  The
> rain that hit us between St. Nic and Carhaix caused me to give up on
> my sleeping plans.  I actually didn't get any sleep until Quedellac on
> the way back in (about mile 530!)
> 
> I look forward to seeing your video.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On Aug 30, 9:21 am, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> My photos from Paris-Brest-Paris, which I completed on a lugged steel, 
>> friction-shifting, leather-saddled road bike:
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627550599380/
>> 
>> Watch for my complete video of the adventure, coming soon!
>> 
>> --Eric
>> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org
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[RBW] Re: 8/27 Visit to RBW HQ

[islaysteve]

Much as the bikes are nice, the dog picture is the best.  Thanks for the 
report!

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[RBW] Re: Wet Riding Ahead

[islaysteve]

Wow.  Glad you made it through the storm safely.  Nice bike.  

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[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

[charlie]

I too disagree.since the Taubes idea as I read it is to (not) eat
unhealthy fats (trans fats etc.), processed foods, low fiber starches
etc.what I get from reading Taubes/Marks Daily Apple/ Paleo etc.
is to eat high protein, good fats, fresh vegetables (the leafy green
kind) berries,certain nuts, and some fruits and avoid all starchy
carbohydrates bread, potatoes, corn, rice, sugar. basically eat a
healthy diet.
 I'm not sure but I get the impression that there might be a little
phobia regarding the eating of animal fats and proteins. The issues
with heart disease can most definitely be related to the ingestion of
excess carbohydrates (grains and/or sugar) along with fats (absolutely
the worst combination) but the eating of saturated fats in the absence
of starchy carbohydrates does not have the same effectTaubes's
book really needs to be read in its entirety along some other
publications to get the complete picture. As Grant stated, the blood
numbers do improve. I know this because I did this several years ago
when I first tried the Atkins approach and my test results were
amazingly improved. A common misunderstanding among many is the focus
on meat and fats as being the only thing eaten with these diets
however I don't get that when I read the books. I can't see how lower
blood numbers, fat loss and lower insulin reactions could be
unhealthy. But I do see the success of this philosophy helping to put
to rest some of the misinformation we've been 'swallowing' since the
government indoctrinated us with the food pyramid concept this last
generation.

On Aug 31, 8:33 am, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> On Aug 30, 9:06 pm, grant  wrote:
>
> > As the book points out, and as anybody who tries it will see, your
> > blood scores vastly improve when you eat fat and protein
>
> there's more than 1 book and countless studies that say the opposite.
> again, weight loss vs. health.  lose weight, eat fatty foods, and keep
> exercise to a minimum ... doesn't sound like a recipe for reducing the
> risk of heart disease.  When roughly two thirds of Americans (to keep
> this conservation ethnocentric - because, as others have noted, the
> rest of the carb-eating world isn't epidemically fat) are overweight/
> obese, I do understand the emphasis on weight loss - and I think it's
> great that folks are finding ways of shedding the weight, whether it's
> with Taubes or their local weight watchers class.  whatever works.
>
> but obesity isn't the only epidemic we're dealing with.  heart
> disease, cancers, and chronic health issues can all be related to diet
> and nutrition (or lack thereof) too.  diets that lead to disease have
> the following markers:
>
> -High in animal fats and protein
> -High in unhealthy fats (saturated/trans)
> -Low in fiber
> -High in processed/packaged foods
> -Low in complex carbs
> -Low in plant-based foods
>
> not coincidentally, these are also the markers of a diet (which can
> rightly be called an American diet) that lead to obesity.
>
> can one lose weight on this diet?  absolutely.  does one also lose the
> risk of disease that goes hand in hand with these diet markers?
> absolutely not.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

[PATRICK MOORE]

What do all those Chinese, South Indians, Filipinos and Japanese
(among others) have to say about the last part of this sentence?

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM, charlie  wrote:
what I get from reading Taubes/Marks Daily Apple/ Paleo etc.
> is to eat high protein, good fats, fresh vegetables (the leafy green
> kind) berries,certain nuts, and some fruits

**and avoid all starchy carbohydrates bread, potatoes, corn, rice,
sugar. basically eat a healthy diet.**

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[RBW] So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[jinxed]

There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air in 
it.

My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per trip. 
All caused by goat heads.

I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of 
Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon 
(Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the 
hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40 
nowbummer.

There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti 
flat as is available. From what I gather, the "Supreme" is the, well, 
supreme?

Anyone gone the Foss route yet?

The previous players:

Sealants:
True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.

Tires:
700x37 Pasela TG.
700x42 IRC Slick XC. 
700x32 Conti Twister Pro. 
700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.

These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take most 
often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about 
equally.


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[RBW] Re: Wet Riding Ahead

[Michael Hechmer]

Two of the 4 major north south roads and virtually every east west road in 
the southern half of the state has been labeled "compromised" .

Michael
Westford, VT

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[RBW] Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Scotty]

I just discovered the Hennessy Hammock in my internet searches for camping 
gear and I find them quite interesting as an alternative to carrying a tent. 
I was wondering if any of you have tried these and what you think of them. I 
think I want one.
 
http://hennessyhammock.com/

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Re: [RBW] Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Rex Kerr]

I haven't used that particular brand [I use an Amazonas Mokito], but I've
been using hammocks for bike & hike camping for the last 3-4 years.
There's a site called hammockforums.net, which can give you a lot of good
advice -- you'll learn a lot about underquilts, overquilts, DIY hammocks,
tree straps, etc, etc...

I LOVE no longer always finding the one rock for my shoulder to lie on. :-)
The big drawback, though, is that a hammock gets colder at night due to not
having the ground as insulation and compressing your sleeping back
underneath you, thus the underquilts.

Overall it's a great way to go and significantly reduces the weight of your
load.


On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Scotty  wrote:

> I just discovered the Hennessy Hammock in my internet searches for camping
> gear and I find them quite interesting as an alternative to carrying a tent.
> I was wondering if any of you have tried these and what you think of them. I
> think I want one.
>
> http://hennessyhammock.com/
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[RBW] NYC S24O

[mizrachi]

Any fellow New Yorkers up for a sub 24 overnighter at some point in
the near future?

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Re: [RBW] So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[Rex Kerr]

I hate goatheads.  Had them where I grew up and I got a flat EVERY time I
rode to one of my friend's house on the old train right of way (which are
now a paved bike trail).

My last flat was almost two years ago after putting 5000 miles on a set of
Bontranger Racelite Hardcase (oxymoron?) tires... I'd not gotten a single
flat on them and was very happy with them, then, while looking for a camp
site, I pulled off the road into a patch of goatheads.  The next morning I
had two flat tires, each with about 20 goatheads, each with four that made
it through the tube.  I didn't even bother patching them.


On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:26 PM, jinxed  wrote:

> There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air
> in it.
>
> My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per trip.
> All caused by goat heads.
>
> I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
> Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
> (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the
> hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
> nowbummer.
>
> There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti
> flat as is available. From what I gather, the "Supreme" is the, well,
> supreme?
>
> Anyone gone the Foss route yet?
>
> The previous players:
>
> Sealants:
> True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
> Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
> Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.
>
> Tires:
> 700x37 Pasela TG.
> 700x42 IRC Slick XC.
> 700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
> 700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.
>
> These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take most
> often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
> equally.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: PBP 2011 Ride Photos - a set on Flickr

[Forrest]

Epic accomplishment, Eric. I'm mightily impressed. Congratulations.  -- 
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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[Jeremy Till]

Had a ride last weekend where I had one flat on the rear from two 
goatheads.  Pulled over and replaced the tube, went to put the wheel back on 
the bike only to notice that my front tire was also going flat from 2 
goatheads!   I was kind of up a creek since i only had used my one extra 
tube and didn't have a patch kit on me.  I limped back to the nearest town, 
pausing every 2 miles or so to refill the front tire.  Luckily that town had 
a bike shop in it where I bought another tube and patch kitthe shop 
owner noted that it was "goathead season."   All of this in 90+ degree heat.

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[jimD]

I recently returned from a 3 week stint in eastern Wa. (Kennewick) helping to 
care for my elderly mom.
I had 3 flats in 3 weeks, all from goatheads. The good news is that the volume 
of the JB greens allowed me to limp back to the house to address the flats 
there. I've found 'slime' tubes are useful in a goathead laden places. 

I'm curious about those Foss tubes too.

Here in northern Cal. I don't get 3 flats in 3 months. 
-JimD

On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Jeremy Till wrote:

> Had a ride last weekend where I had one flat on the rear from two goatheads.  
> Pulled over and replaced the tube, went to put the wheel back on the bike 
> only to notice that my front tire was also going flat from 2 goatheads!   I 
> was kind of up a creek since i only had used my one extra tube and didn't 
> have a patch kit on me.  I limped back to the nearest town, pausing every 2 
> miles or so to refill the front tire.  Luckily that town had a bike shop in 
> it where I bought another tube and patch kitthe shop owner noted that it 
> was "goathead season."   All of this in 90+ degree heat.
> 
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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[Mike]

On my tour earlier this month I got my first flat ever courtesy of a
goathead. This was right as I was entering Yakima. About 20 minutes
later I got another flat, a piece of glass. I was running Schwalbe
700x40 Marathons and these were the only flats I had. In fact these
were the only flats I've ever had on these tires.

Today, I put a set of 700x38 Marathons with "Greenguard" on my
commuter. They're on odd feeling tire. Fine for commuting but
definitely sluggish. I kinda wish Schwalbe had just stuck with their
standard Marathon design. Then again, they're pretty inexpensive given
their longevity.

I've run 700x47 Marathons on my Hilsen:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/3831147247/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/3770136217/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/3770135967/in/photostream/

Marathon Supremes are also an excellent tire. So far I've only tried
the 35s. At some point pony up the ducats for Duremes, most likely the
700x40s.

I should add, I have a problem with tires. It's amazing how a tire can
change a bike.

My bikes and the tires they're sporting:
Hilsen--Marathon Supremes 700x35
Quickbeam--Marathon 700x35
LHT--Marathon--700x40
CrossCheck--Marathon 700x38
Bryant--Jack Brown Greens

I also have a pretty worn set of Panaracer T-Serves and a set of
Marathon 700x47s. I may actually put the 47s on the Hilsen for
tomorrow scheduled mixed terrain ride through Forest Park.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[PATRICK MOORE]

Three flats in three weeks? I wish I got three flats in three weeks.
Had four on yesterday's brief ride (tho' 3 were due to an ancient,
slipping rim strip. The moral: use only Velox.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:14 PM, jimD  wrote:
> I recently returned from a 3 week stint in eastern Wa. (Kennewick) helping
> to care for my elderly mom.
> I had 3 flats in 3 weeks, all from goatheads. The good news is that the
> volume of the JB greens allowed me to limp back to the house to address the
> flats there. I've found 'slime' tubes are useful in a goathead laden
> places.
> I'm curious about those Foss tubes too.
> Here in northern Cal. I don't get 3 flats in 3 months.
> -JimD
> On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> Had a ride last weekend where I had one flat on the rear from two
> goatheads.  Pulled over and replaced the tube, went to put the wheel back on
> the bike only to notice that my front tire was also going flat from 2
> goatheads!   I was kind of up a creek since i only had used my one extra
> tube and didn't have a patch kit on me.  I limped back to the nearest town,
> pausing every 2 miles or so to refill the front tire.  Luckily that town had
> a bike shop in it where I bought another tube and patch kitthe shop
> owner noted that it was "goathead season."   All of this in 90+ degree heat.
>
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Re: [RBW] Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Scotty]

That drawback might be a bonus for me. Being in Florida the extra air 
circulation may be a good thing. Thanks for the link. 

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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[jinxed]

Mike - 

HA! Your bike is the one I saw!! So the 47's do exist and fit the Hilsen! 
Nice.

Goatheads are a prolific problem here in Denver. There are two major trail 
systems that will get you darn near anywhere in and around the metro area 
you want to go. Since my daughter was born I have taken to using them more 
often "as my ride" where before I used them to get "to my ride". Problem is 
both trail systems are bordered with the low level ground cover plant that 
creates the thorns. There is some speculation that they were 
used purposely along the Highline Canal Trail (built in the early 20s) as it 
was originally an access road for the irrigation canal. It would require no 
maintenance without getting overgrown. The recreation/bike trail was not to 
be until the 70s. 

Some years are better than others depending on heat and moisture. I can only 
guess that our summer of record heat has the little devils out in score.

Again...brilliant Hilsen there sir!

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[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

[grant]

Taubes says...according to the studies he's read (as a science writer
and a health researcher)...that the studies that suggest high fat
diets increasing cholesterol, triglycerides, and so on...are flawed.
Not because they don't point the way he wants 'em to, but because they
haven't isolated the independent variables. It's the McDonalds
mentality, where you blame the meat and cheese, while ignoring the bun-
fries-Coke.

The only way to increase triglycerides is by eating carbohydrates. A
friend of mine ate nothing but meat and butter for 6 months, and his
triglycerides plummeted to 39, while his HDL shot up to 105 (that's
good). His LDL decreased.

The Asian pops that eat rice and tubers (as Taubes sez, and from what
I've seen in Japan and Taiwan) --- don't eat them in the quantities WE
do. A serving of rice in Japan is a small bowl. And they often don't
even finish it. Japanese people do not eat between meals. Never eat on
the street Eat 3 meals a day, don't snack, and get filled up
quick...in my experience.

Taubes goes into all that in the book.

The first seven people reading this who are sincerely interested in
the red book that's causing all the fuss...PM me at gr...@rivbike.com,
and I'll send you a copy free, as long as you kinda sincerely plan to
read it.

All this diet-bodyfat stuff is so...well, it's important to all of us.
We all want to lose weight and improve our blood scores, reduce the
risks, and so on. I've "known" Patrick M. for --fifteen years,
Patrick? Maybe more. We haven't met in person, but I get the feeling
he's one of the lucky ones. To a lesser extent, I probably am, too---
most would describe me as stocky but not fat. I don't know how I'd be
described, actually. But lean or fat, stocky or blubbery, magical-
phenomenal like Scott C., or still struggling..it's a bonding, common
concern. I've heard from dozens who've lost 10 to 60 pounds eating
burgers and cheese, whole eggs and bacon, salmon and salads with blue
cheese dressing...WHILE improving their blood scores. Most are over 50
and have struggled for 20 years or more, and nothing else worked.

The Taubes regime isn't "the Taubes regime"---it's pretty much the
diet we evolved to eat, and the diet we were eating before anybody
ever had atherosclerosis, high blood pressure, and so on. IF you've
tried counting calories and cutting back on fat and riding your ass
off, and you see no progress, and it's gotten to the point where you
figure if yout cut back on your mileage you'll gain five pounds a
month and sixty a year---please do yourself a favor and read the red
book (and Primal Blueprint, too).

Google "Rivendell Gary Taubes" and spend a couple of hours (in 12-
minute segments) listening to Gary make his case.

The seven free books offer is still good. First seven. I'm not trying
to convert anybody to "my" way. It's  not power-tripping. It has
worked for so many, and since I believe it so much, I feel like i
gotta speak up. I don't get hungry anymore. I used to eat most of my
calories after 7 at night. Now I don't even get hungry, ever, and I
eat...good fatty stuff.  When you read the book you'll understand
exactly how and why it works. Carbs spike glucose, glucose spikes
insulin, and when the subject is blood scores and weight gain, insulin
is the bad guy. The Satan in it all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[Jim Mather]

My tubeless set-up on my mountain bikes has been immune to flats,
including goatheads, for 3 years now. I'm tempted by the road tubeless
but it looks like the widest you can get is a 25mm tire. Maybe I'll
experiment a bit, but I don't want to die from it.

jim m
tubeless in walnut creek

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Re: [RBW] Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Jack Warman]

I just started Hennessey camping this season and only made it out a few
times with mine.  All told, I've done probably a half dozen nights in it.

The comments about your underside being cool are true.  The first time I
went out in it, I had my Wiggy bag and vapor barrier and what I thought to
be ample sleep clothing for the weather.  I fell asleep, and woke up 40
minutes later with one cold side.  I rolled over and was thrilled to be warm
again... for about another 40 minutes.  Much of the night was like that.
 :-)  Last spring I found their winter kit on sale and I got it.  I haven't
been out in even Autumn like weather in it, but it was good in late Spring.

Good way t stealth camp, too, if you're into that sort of thing.  I was
scouting locations this past weekend and actually stumbled upon a small
pedestrian bridge over a little babbling brook and realized it would be a
piece of cake to hang the tent under it.  I'm determined to try it some day.
 :-)

Oh, and I hosted an S24O here in NC in early June.  About a dozen folks came
out, and we had 6 hammocks, 5 of them Hennessey.  :-)  Its a good way to go!


Enjoy,
Jack

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> I just discovered the Hennessy Hammock in my internet searches for camping
> gear and I find them quite interesting as an alternative to carrying a tent.
> I was wondering if any of you have tried these and what you think of them. I
> think I want one.
>
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[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[Mattt]

I have Marathon Supremes and no flats in about 1000 miles.  This is 
commuting miles on the road to and from work.  They are great tires and 
barely have any wear in this time.  They are a little expensive up front, 
but worth the cost.

Matt

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Re: [RBW] Wet Riding Ahead

[Greg Smith]

Howdy neighbor,
A bit wet, but we were oh so lucky.  Very pretty bike!
Greg in W. Htfd.



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> This is the Wethersfield cove off the Connecticut River.  The river had 
> already receded a couple of feet by the time we got there.  We were glad to 
> get through the hurricane with dry bikes.
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[RBW] FS - Shimano L422 Stem Shift Levers - Best ever

[bikecg]

For Sale - 2 Sets

Arguably the best stem levers ever made.  From around 1986, these
Shimano L422 Stemmies are beautifully finished aluminum and chromed
steel.  The lever action is a light ratchet with a light rear pulling
spring to make downshifting very light.  (Kind of like a Simplex
Retrofriction feel).  These levers mount to 22.2mm old school stems.
You will not find better looking levers for the stem, period.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bearsadiecody/6101133145/  This picture
is an example, not the actual ones for sale.

I have two sets
Set 1 - Like brand new, no visible signs of wear.  $22 includes
postage
Set 2 - New, but I am missing the original m5 screws.  Have replaced
them with m5 stainless Phillips head screws.  Works beatifully.  $22
includes postage

Prefer Paypal - my account is bik...@gmail.com

Thanks,
Carl Gonzalez
Bay Village, OH

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[RBW] Sackville Grid Grey Fabric Discontinued

[Chris]

I was on the phone with Rivendell trying to place an order for a
Sackville Tool Wrap in Grid Grey, but was told that the Grid Grey
fabric is being discontinued.  That's really sad news!

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[RBW] Re: Vittoria 1976 Men's Cycling Shoe

[Alice Stribling]

Hi Kris,

There was a nice review on these shoes on the Pushbike blog:   
http://pushbikesf.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/vittoria-1976-classics-review-by-fergus/

They are really nice looking!
A

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[RBW] Re: WTB brooks b17or imperial

[Mattt]

MTrise,
 
I will have a black B17 available for sale in about 1 to 1.5 weeks.  I am 
waiting for other parts to come in the mail to make a transfer.  I 
will contact you when I have it available to see if you still need one. 
 
Thanks,
Matt

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[RBW] Questions: Wiring a tail light and more.

[Brian]

Hi,

I'm about to install fender mounted, dyno powered tail lights on my
Sam H. and my wife's Trek. We both have Cyo IQ headlights. Hers is at
the fork crown, mine on the front of the rack. Best route to run the
cable? Least obtrusive, most secure method of attachment?

Also, this winter, I plan on Rivifying my early '90s Miyata road bike.
What's the best way to remove the decals? Neon is so 1992.

Thanks for the help.

Brian

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a VO Viva Saddlebag Support

[Eric]

Would you elaborate on the stand-off?  I assume you mean some sort of
device or method of keeping the bag aft of the post such that it sits
more upright.  If we're on the same page, please let me know how you
managed this.

Cheers

On Aug 31, 6:56 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> I'm surprised. Are you saying a 5" standoff is just too long? That may be. 
> But I also have an old-style Acorn "Large" saddlebag and am able to use it 
> with a stand-off I made. It might've been 5"; I don't know. But I definitely 
> had my saddle slammed back and am able to use the bag with this standoff. 
> I'll have to measure it all.
>
> Good luck with your ViVa search!
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Questions: Wiring a tail light and more.

[Rex Kerr]

I've never done it, but I've been considering it for a while.

So far I've come up with the idea to do the following, starting at the rear:

Run the wire inside the fender... use duct tape to hold it along the inside
of the fender all the way to the kickstand plate.  I have a small stack of
washers on my fender bolt here to get the right fenderline so I'd anchor the
wire to this stack of washers with a zip-tie.  Starting with the rear
deraller in the center gear, run the wire under the BB shell, leaving a
small amount of slack, about 3/4 of the total cable travel for the rear
derailler.  Run the cable up the downtube along the r-der cable, taping or
otherwise tying them together ever 6 inches or so.  At the adjuster barrel
I'd leave a small bit of slack and then tape or otherwise anchor the wire to
the cable housing.  The slack at each end allows the section of wire along
the cable to move freely with the cable.  From here I was planning to route
as cleanly as possible (TBD) to the fork crown, around the fender daruma to
anchor it, and then through the top vent hole in the fork and fish it out at
the bottom vent hole, which comes out right next to the dynamo contacts (not
sure how hard that'd be to do).

I planned to do this with a single wire, so I would ground the dynamo to
fork using one of the rack/fender eyelets, and the light could be grounded
to the fender (hoping that the al fenders conduct enough, but I have a hard
time believing that they wouldn't)

Like I said, I haven't tried this, but it's what I've been thinking of
doing.  I plan to do the same single wire setup for the headlight to get it
to the left side of the rack cleanly... single small wire making the trip
through the fork, over the fender, around the daruma, and then to the light,
frame grounded.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Brian  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm about to install fender mounted, dyno powered tail lights on my
> Sam H. and my wife's Trek. We both have Cyo IQ headlights. Hers is at
> the fork crown, mine on the front of the rack. Best route to run the
> cable? Least obtrusive, most secure method of attachment?
>
> Also, this winter, I plan on Rivifying my early '90s Miyata road bike.
> What's the best way to remove the decals? Neon is so 1992.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Brian
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[RBW] Re: Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Manuel Acosta]

Make your own out of paracord and a tarp.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/6067459201/in/set-72157627488726100
Easy find a youtube video about it. The paracord and tarp is also
multi-use.


On Aug 31, 6:27 pm, Rex Kerr  wrote:
> I haven't used that particular brand [I use an Amazonas Mokito], but I've
> been using hammocks for bike & hike camping for the last 3-4 years.
> There's a site called hammockforums.net, which can give you a lot of good
> advice -- you'll learn a lot about underquilts, overquilts, DIY hammocks,
> tree straps, etc, etc...
>
> I LOVE no longer always finding the one rock for my shoulder to lie on. :-)
> The big drawback, though, is that a hammock gets colder at night due to not
> having the ground as insulation and compressing your sleeping back
> underneath you, thus the underquilts.
>
> Overall it's a great way to go and significantly reduces the weight of your
> load.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Scotty  wrote:
> > I just discovered the Hennessy Hammock in my internet searches for camping
> > gear and I find them quite interesting as an alternative to carrying a tent.
> > I was wondering if any of you have tried these and what you think of them. I
> > think I want one.
>
> >http://hennessyhammock.com/
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[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

[Chris Halasz]

Curious regarding Taubeser's take on the following:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/health/19brody.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=still%20counting%20calories%20your%20weight%20loss%20plan&st=cse

(or the direct article link at 
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1014296?query=TOC#t=articleTop)

Cheers,

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Grid Grey Fabric Discontinued

[Manuel Acosta]

Porque!


On Aug 31, 2:37 pm, Chris  wrote:
> I was on the phone with Rivendell trying to place an order for a
> Sackville Tool Wrap in Grid Grey, but was told that the Grid Grey
> fabric is being discontinued.  That's really sad news!

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Re: [RBW] Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Robert F. Harrison]

I love mine. It's light, easy to pack up, and very comfortable. What
everyone else has been saying about being a bit cool on the bottom side is
true but easy to fix - at least out here in Hawaii. I got myself a one of
those cheap silvery windshield sun screens and carry that along. They weigh
almost nothing and have a thin closed cell construction. I got the smaller
one because even though I'm over six feet tall I really only need it under
my upper body. It works great and, as I said, is very light - perfect for a
bike (you can see it folded up in my large SaddleSack in this image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4559543495/sizes/l/in/photostream/. My
Hennessy is under the yellow rain cover up front. Believe it or not even
with all that blue sky it had rained for the first half hour I was out that
day.

Aloha, Bob

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> I just discovered the Hennessy Hammock in my internet searches for camping
> gear and I find them quite interesting as an alternative to carrying a tent.
> I was wondering if any of you have tried these and what you think of them. I
> think I want one.
>
> http://hennessyhammock.com/
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Re: [RBW] So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[cyclotourist]

Aarugh, I HATE goatheads.  This year is the worst here in SoCal due to
the record breaking rain we had this winter and spring.  Every dormant
goathead from the last 20 years started growing.  Seriously, I ride past
orchards and empty lots that are covered with ACRES of the things.

Over the years I've gotten pretty good and seeing the plants and steering
clear.  When I see a new one along a path, I'll often stop and pull the
plant out by the root before it can really propagate.

Only advice is learn to look for the plants (individual thorns can't be
seen).  They grow in open ground that doesn't have any native ground cover
or manicured lawns.  They need water, so thrive on urban run-off.

Then join the group  to post
pictures and commiserate on the devil's seed!

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:26 PM, jinxed  wrote:

> There are 5 bicycles hanging in the garage. There is *one tire* with air
> in it.
>
> My last 3 trips on the Hilsen have seen no fewer than 2 punctures per trip.
> All caused by goat heads.
>
> I think I am going to finally bite the bullet and pick up a set of
> Marathons. I have seen evidence of a 700 x 47 (41 actual) Marathon
> (Supreme??) on a Hilsen that would be stellar. I like the big meat on the
> hoops off road. Unfortunately the widest I see searching the web is 40
> nowbummer.
>
> There seems to be some pretty lofty praise on the Marathons being as anti
> flat as is available. From what I gather, the "Supreme" is the, well,
> supreme?
>
> Anyone gone the Foss route yet?
>
> The previous players:
>
> Sealants:
> True Goo - worked for a month, then stopped.
> Slime - slowed the leak a little then created a huge mess in the tire.
> Caffe Latex - worked for @ 2 months, then clogged the valve.
>
> Tires:
> 700x37 Pasela TG.
> 700x42 IRC Slick XC.
> 700x32 Conti Twister Pro.
> 700x35 Schwalbe Delta Cruisers with puncture protection.
>
> These tires excelled in different areas, but on the roads/path I take most
> often they all suffered the dreaded goat head rapture (rupture?) about
> equally.
>
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Re: [RBW] Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Rex Kerr]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote:

> I got myself a one of those cheap silvery windshield sun screens and carry
> that along. They weigh almost nothing and have a thin closed cell
> construction. I got the smaller one because even though I'm over six feet
> tall I really only need it under my upper body.
>

That's a neat idea.  It really depends on your climate.  On my last trip
into the Sierra Nevada mountains I had a down underquilt hanging under my
hammock, a tarp to keep the wind at bay, a bag rated to 0F, and was freezing
on some of the higher, more exposed, peaks.  I didn't sleep very much a few
nights because I was so cold.  That said, stealth camping on the shores of
Lake Baryessa in July was just fine with a light bag and no underquilt or
pad.

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[RBW] Re: Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[Matthew Z.]

I've always been pleased with mine.  Brought it to the first Riv
Weekend, got quite a few interested folks checking it out.

Had to close the exhibit so I could get some rest :D

Treehuggers are handy, and quite light.  Would want a pair if I was
traveling light, even without the whole Hammock.

Find their pricing quite fair for the work, materials, and support
after purchase.

Haven't built my own, but some of the truly dedicated Hammock campers
have used fleece and windshield sunscreens(!) to keep their undersides
warm.

My Cat's Meow and a thermarest pad was too much for Diablo that first
night.  Do layer, and expect to be a bit fiddly 'til you dial in your
personal insulation preferences.

Larger fly they offer is good for sheltering your steel steed from the
elements, as well :D

Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping

[rcnute]

Funny, I was just reading Alex Wetmore's blog on this:
http://blogs.phred.org/blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2010/01/28/gifford-powdercoat-and-details.aspx

Ryan

On Aug 31, 5:49 pm, Scotty  wrote:
> I just discovered the Hennessy Hammock in my internet searches for camping
> gear and I find them quite interesting as an alternative to carrying a tent.
> I was wondering if any of you have tried these and what you think of them. I
> think I want one.
>
> http://hennessyhammock.com/

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[RBW] ISO good LED headlamp

[PATRICK MOORE]

I hope to pick up my Herse tomorrow, modified with a new bb dynamo
attached to newly brazed on mount, and with the original tt and
seatstay bottle dyno brazeons removed. I need a good LED lamp; a Cyo R
or non-R would be perfect but I would consider paying for a used
Edeluxe. Does anyone have one for sale or trade?

Thanks.

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Blazing high above your head;
But in you is the Presence that will be
When all the stars are dead.
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Re: [RBW] So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

[Michael_S]

My worst experience with goatheads was on a dirt road that I rarely take 
near a water purification plant. I had at least 20 on each tire. I was 
running 38mm marathon racers. I replaced the rear tube after 30 min. of 
extractions. The front I left alone and managed to ride the final 3 miles 
home with  a slowly leaking tire.
 
I haven't taken the dirt road home since then.
 
Overall I've been lucky. I probably only get 1 flat tire every few months.  
I'm sure that will change now that I've put it in writing. 
 
~mike
 

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Re: [RBW] Sackville Grid Grey Fabric Discontinued

[Rex Kerr]

Oh no!  I was planning to pick up one of their grid gray mudflaps to match
my phantom gray AHH this weekend!  Hopefully they still have some!

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> fabric is being discontinued.  That's really sad news!
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Re: [RBW] Sackville Grid Grey Fabric Discontinued

[EastBayGuy]

I am curious what the replacement will be. 

Dustin G

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[RBW] bike sheds

[Seth Vidal]

Hi folks,

This is a bit off topic but I suspect many folks on this list have
enough bikes to warrant housing for them.

We are currently in the middle of a building process for a new bike
shed/workshop.

Pictures here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/tags/shed/

The space will end up being 12x20 with rafters starting at just below
the 10ft mark.

I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for:

1. storage of our bikes (including 2 tandems)
2. workbench recommendations
3. shelving recommendations.

Bikes to house/maintain:
- atlantis
- romulus
- fastboy mixte
- lotus excelle
- breezer uptown 8
- burley paso doble tandem
- bike friday family tandem
- bike +1
- bike +2
- maybe a brompton sometime in the future? I dunno

Plus an assortment of bags/racks/tools/etc.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks,
-sv

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Re: [RBW] bike sheds

[Rex Kerr]

Everybody should have some input on this one:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/bikeshed.html

:-)

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> This is a bit off topic but I suspect many folks on this list have
> enough bikes to warrant housing for them.
>
> We are currently in the middle of a building process for a new bike
> shed/workshop.
>
> Pictures here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/tags/shed/
>
> The space will end up being 12x20 with rafters starting at just below
> the 10ft mark.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for:
>
> 1. storage of our bikes (including 2 tandems)
> 2. workbench recommendations
> 3. shelving recommendations.
>
> Bikes to house/maintain:
> - atlantis
> - romulus
> - fastboy mixte
> - lotus excelle
> - breezer uptown 8
> - burley paso doble tandem
> - bike friday family tandem
> - bike +1
> - bike +2
> - maybe a brompton sometime in the future? I dunno
>
> Plus an assortment of bags/racks/tools/etc.
>
> Any recommendations would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> -sv
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Re: [RBW] bike sheds

[Seth Vidal]

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Rex Kerr  wrote:
> Everybody should have some input on this one:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/bikeshed.html
> :-)
>


I work for a free software company for my day job so I know the bike
shed terminology well.

In fact, I have started piling up nickels for each time someone
mentions this to me in reference to what we're building.

I might need to start construction on a silo to house my nickels soon.

:-D

Rex, do you happen to have any recommendations on color?

-sv

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