Re: [RBW] Re: Can you outgrow a frame?
Having bikes and parts that make it easy to convert to upright bars. : ) Meanwhile, coining the word "outshrink" - that and the recent ziptie inventor remark - Beth is just on fire! On Dec 29, 2010, at 10:20 PM, charlie wrote: > Me thinks ye hath answered thine own query! I know I have > shrunk due to weight and age. My flexibility has also declined which > has forced me to look at a more rounded exercise program since cycling > tends to tighten you up. Improving your flexibility may help. Maybe > you'll have to convert the bike to some upright bars. : ( > > On Dec 29, 9:42 pm, b hamon wrote: >> I wonder if any of you have had a custom frame that you rode for years and >> more recently have found that the top tube has become too long for you? I >> would guess this happens more noticeably to the short-torsoed among us, >> since as we age our spines compress and those with shorter torsos feel the >> difference in the reach to the handlebars sooner than everyone else. >> >> But I'm beginning to suspect that this may be happening to me with a >> 12-year-old custom frame that is no longer comfortable with drops on it >> (even with the shortest Nitto Techie I can find). My suspicion may have been >> confirmed at the doctor's office this week when I discovered that I was not >> only no longer 5' 7", I apparently haven't been for some time. >> >> For someone who is, in her family of origin, very, very short (my sister and >> all my cousins topped out at 6' or more), it was a crushing blow, for at >> least ten minutes. >> >> Seriously, has this happened to anyone else? Is it possible to "outgrow" (or >> outshrink?) a custom frame? --B > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Can you outgrow a frame?
If your question implies the question "Can one's body effectively shrink due to aging?" my answer is, yes, absolutely. I may be seeing this myself, and I certainly saw it in my dad as he aged. The lamina between spinal bones compress over time, and this alone results in a height reduction even in fit people. I'm not sure I'd trust the height/weight measurements done at some doctors' offices. The assistants at my GPs office aren't consistent about me having shoes on, for example. The doctor may be skilled at "taking it with a grain of salt," but still, the raw numbers are no longer good. How about your flexibility - have you had it tested, or do you have a baseline to compare to? I've found even in my '50s it can improve with stretching. On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:42 AM, b hamon wrote: > I wonder if any of you have had a custom frame that you rode for years and > more recently have found that the top tube has become too long for you? I > would guess this happens more noticeably to the short-torsoed among us, > since as we age our spines compress and those with shorter torsos feel the > difference in the reach to the handlebars sooner than everyone else. > > But I'm beginning to suspect that this may be happening to me with a > 12-year-old custom frame that is no longer comfortable with drops on it > (even with the shortest Nitto Techie I can find). My suspicion may have been > confirmed at the doctor's office this week when I discovered that I was not > only no longer 5' 7", I apparently haven't been for some time. > > For someone who is, in her family of origin, very, very short (my sister > and all my cousins topped out at 6' or more), it was a crushing blow, for at > least ten minutes. > > Seriously, has this happened to anyone else? Is it possible to "outgrow" > (or outshrink?) a custom frame? --B > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one
IF the Simple One has the same geometry as the Quickbeam... I have a PBH of 86.5, am 6' 0.5" tall, and have long arms. I have both a 60cm Quickbeam (with a 90mm stem and drops) and a 60cm Surly Crosscheck (with 90mm stem and Mary Bars) and feel great. Standover on the QB is fine with 35mm Paselas. My QB: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrivers/sets/72157618452191962/ Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can you outgrow a frame?
Beth, I'm 6 foot and middle aged, don't know that I have shrunk much, but things have changed. I was on a ride with the local bike club, riding next to a 20 year old LBS mechanic (riding a Surly Steamroller with very low drop bars) and middle aged lady. The young man and I were chatting about handle bars and he asked why my bars were so high..."Low bars make my back ache."..."But my back doesn't ache."..."Yes, but you're 20." Mechanic looks confusedmiddle aged lady starts to laugh. In the mid to late 90s I was fine on a 59.5cm Road Standard, now I'm fine on a 64cm Rambouillet. Touring bike was a 59cm All Rounder, now a 64cm Atlantis. I took my 59cm All-Rounder and converted it to Albatross bars (RBW made me a 14 or 15cm lugged stem to get the bars in the right place). I ride that bike after I have done something stupid and have a back ache. I can ride forever on that bike...my "bad back" bike. Low bars...I'm "beyond that" now :-) Angus "Middle age has benefits...a tolerant back isn't one of them" On Dec 29, 11:42 pm, b hamon wrote: > I wonder if any of you have had a custom frame that you rode for years and > more recently have found that the top tube has become too long for you? I > would guess this happens more noticeably to the short-torsoed among us, since > as we age our spines compress and those with shorter torsos feel the > difference in the reach to the handlebars sooner than everyone else. > > But I'm beginning to suspect that this may be happening to me with a > 12-year-old custom frame that is no longer comfortable with drops on it (even > with the shortest Nitto Techie I can find). My suspicion may have been > confirmed at the doctor's office this week when I discovered that I was not > only no longer 5' 7", I apparently haven't been for some time. > > For someone who is, in her family of origin, very, very short (my sister and > all my cousins topped out at 6' or more), it was a crushing blow, for at > least ten minutes. > > Seriously, has this happened to anyone else? Is it possible to "outgrow" (or > outshrink?) a custom frame? --B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one
I would call and ask Rivendell I have an 89cm PBH and ride 64cm frames with short stems (80-100mm). We are all different, I'm sure Grant and his crew have a lot more experience fitting people to their bikes than I do. Angus On Dec 30, 12:09 am, charlie wrote: > Wondered if the new frame will have a level top tube. Trying to figure > my size. I ride a 58cm Long Haul Trucker, and a couple of 23 inch > Raleigh's. I'm right in the middle between 58 & 60 cm but have a short > reach so I'm thinking a 58 cm might be the best size. I do have a 86.4 > cm PBH measurement. I found with my Trucker that I needed a 75mm stem > with the noodle bar to get comfortable and my other bikes have had > 22.5 top tubes using a 90mm stem. Some thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Chiang Mai 12-27-10
Awesome dougP, looking forward to meet you! On Dec 30, 12:24 am, doug peterson wrote: > Gernot: > > Great photos. 100% Rivendell participation is a high bar to meet; > doubt we'll ever get there here in the States. > > Hope I can hook up with you guys when I'm there next month. Gotta > make that adjustment to riding British style. > > dougP > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Chiang Mai 12-27-10
Nobody's mentioned the caps ?! On Dec 29, 8:07 pm, Earl Grey wrote: > First time we've had 3 Rivendells on a ride. Did my favorite loop that is > about half dirt, time-wise. > > A few photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/ > > Cheers, > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can you outgrow a frame?
B I assume you already know that raising the bars also brings them closer to you as well as relieving strain on the wrists, arms, neck and back. I would also strongly recommend regular yoga routine. You can't stop the aging process but you can both slow it down and ameliorate its impact. Besides increasing your flexibility the yoga will heighten your body awareness, which will make the rest of your needs easier to perceive and respond to. enjoy the ride. michael On Dec 30, 12:42 am, b hamon wrote: > I wonder if any of you have had a custom frame that you rode for years and > more recently have found that the top tube has become too long for you? I > would guess this happens more noticeably to the short-torsoed among us, since > as we age our spines compress and those with shorter torsos feel the > difference in the reach to the handlebars sooner than everyone else. > > But I'm beginning to suspect that this may be happening to me with a > 12-year-old custom frame that is no longer comfortable with drops on it (even > with the shortest Nitto Techie I can find). My suspicion may have been > confirmed at the doctor's office this week when I discovered that I was not > only no longer 5' 7", I apparently haven't been for some time. > > For someone who is, in her family of origin, very, very short (my sister and > all my cousins topped out at 6' or more), it was a crushing blow, for at > least ten minutes. > > Seriously, has this happened to anyone else? Is it possible to "outgrow" (or > outshrink?) a custom frame? --B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one
If you're comfortable on a 58cm long haul trucker then you'd probably find a similar fit on the Rivendell, since they both have a slight rise to the TT and 2cm HT extension AFAIK. I'm 6' tall with about 89cm pbh and ride a 64cm quickbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029...@n07/4144838542/ -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can you outgrow a frame?
Beth, Don't think of it as out-growing the frame so much as out-growing a particular setup on that frame.Angus makes a good point about just keeping albatross or porteur or some other kind of upright, low-reach bar on the bike. Typically you need a frame with a longer TT to run those bars anyway-- because in most cases the reach of the bar is actually negative (the bars put your hands behind the steering axis). Anyway I hope you find the comfort sweet-spot on it. I'm sure that you & that bike have been through a lot over 12 years. Matt On Dec 30, 7:47 am, Angus wrote: > Beth, > > I'm 6 foot and middle aged, don't know that I have shrunk much, but > things have changed. > > I was on a ride with the local bike club, riding next to a 20 year old > LBS mechanic (riding a Surly Steamroller with very low drop bars) and > middle aged lady. The young man and I were chatting about handle bars > and he asked why my bars were so high..."Low bars make my back > ache."..."But my back doesn't ache."..."Yes, but you're 20." Mechanic > looks confusedmiddle aged lady starts to laugh. > > In the mid to late 90s I was fine on a 59.5cm Road Standard, now I'm > fine on a 64cm Rambouillet. Touring bike was a 59cm All Rounder, now > a 64cm Atlantis. > > I took my 59cm All-Rounder and converted it to Albatross bars (RBW > made me a 14 or 15cm lugged stem to get the bars in the right place). > I ride that bike after I have done something stupid and have a back > ache. I can ride forever on that bike...my "bad back" bike. > > Low bars...I'm "beyond that" now :-) > > Angus "Middle age has benefits...a tolerant back isn't one of them" > > On Dec 29, 11:42 pm, b hamon wrote: > > > I wonder if any of you have had a custom frame that you rode for years and > > more recently have found that the top tube has become too long for you? I > > would guess this happens more noticeably to the short-torsoed among us, > > since as we age our spines compress and those with shorter torsos feel the > > difference in the reach to the handlebars sooner than everyone else. > > > But I'm beginning to suspect that this may be happening to me with a > > 12-year-old custom frame that is no longer comfortable with drops on it > > (even with the shortest Nitto Techie I can find). My suspicion may have > > been confirmed at the doctor's office this week when I discovered that I > > was not only no longer 5' 7", I apparently haven't been for some time. > > > For someone who is, in her family of origin, very, very short (my sister > > and all my cousins topped out at 6' or more), it was a crushing blow, for > > at least ten minutes. > > > Seriously, has this happened to anyone else? Is it possible to "outgrow" > > (or outshrink?) a custom frame? --B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tonight's Quickbeam Ride
Thanks! I'll keep trying. --Eric N On Dec 29, 2010, at 10:07 PM, doug peterson wrote: > "Cooking with gas..." ah, the subversive within emerges. The audio is > an effective addition. Looking forward to more. > > dougP > > On Dec 29, 6:51 pm, Eric Norris wrote: >> Still learning about video editing. Enjoy: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJaofz2trvU >> >> --Eric >> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 64 cm Bombadil Arrived!
That's a great looking bike! Let us know if you end-up loving, hating, or bring indifferent about the Albatross bars. Enjoy the new ride! How could you not? Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell All-Rounder; 54 cm
FYI...I have no interest in these sales. http://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/2133293567.html http://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/2133266233.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
No worry... one can never have too many zipties... On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte wrote: > Lovely idea, > > I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, > before it occurred to me that I needed disk brakes to make it work... > > Marc > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Leslie > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm > Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled across > > this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read it here > > at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even re-read this > > threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- > > bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find > > it here yet. > > >http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... > > > Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should > > be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, > > etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) > > > Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send > > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Marc Nolte > phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 > email: m...@mbn.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
Or, of course, drums, Bobby! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:29 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute No worry... one can never have too many zipties... On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte wrote: > Lovely idea, > > I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, before it occurred to me > that I needed disk brakes to make it work... > > Marc > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Leslie > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm > Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled > > across this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read > > it here at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even > > re-read this > > threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- > > bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find it > > here yet. > > >http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... > > > Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should > > be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, > > etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) > > > Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > >bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Marc Nolte > phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 > email: m...@mbn.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
Guilty as charged, you honor... On Dec 30, 10:43 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" wrote: > Or, of course, drums, Bobby! > > > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:29 AM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > > No worry... one can never have too many zipties... > > On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte wrote: > > Lovely idea, > > > I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, before it occurred to me > > that I needed disk brakes to make it work... > > > Marc > > > - Original Message - > > From: Leslie > > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm > > Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > > Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled > > > across this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read > > > it here at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even > > > re-read this > > > threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- > > > bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find it > > > here yet. > > > >http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... > > > > Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should > > > be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, > > > etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) > > > > Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > >bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Marc Nolte > > phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 > > email: m...@mbn.ca > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > --- > --- > > > To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you > that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained > in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal > Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) > promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters > addressed herein. > > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > === > === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders for Roadeo
Sounds like the fender nut option is a good one but if you are running 700x28c tires you could also do the Planet bike SpeedEZ fenders, I had a pair on a Cannondale and they go on pretty easy and not messing with brakes http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7017.html On Dec 29, 1:38 pm, rperks wrote: > Get the fender nuts, and squeeze those fenders up as high as you can, > a 45mm fender should fit width wise but your height will be the > squeeze as you decide on what tires you are going to run. I went with > Planet bike fenders. For the price they are decent, not honjo, but > better by far than nothing. I ended up making a longer mud flap for > mine too. The stock one on the front was really short. > > http://oceanaircycles.com/2010/12/16/fenders-on-the-roadeo/ > orhttp://wp.me/p19mfs-9b > > Have fun, rain is what you make of it. I think of it as a step closer > to the frictionless universe from physics class. > > Rob > > On Dec 29, 8:37 am, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > Would it be terrible to temporarily attach the front fender to my > > Roadeo with a bolt as usual at the fork blade tip, and zipties at the > > brake bridge? These fenders are just for a few days, and since I'm > > hopelessly bad at readjusting brakes I don't want to have to do it > > twice in a week. > > > -- > > -- Anne Paulson > > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one
Of course as Angus said ... call Rivendell. But it's not all PBH. Other variables I would mention, pedal and shoe choices, crank arm length, seatpost setback and saddle position also factor in. While I'm almost as tall as those who've chimed in at 5"11 1/2" I only use a SH of 73cm with a PBH of 85. I have a longer torso and arms so on my 58 Ram I have my B17 all the way back on a 30mm setback seatpost. I also use a Ritchey SPD pedals which have closer cleat to axle height and use 175 crank arms. If I used a quill pedal, flat shoes, middle saddle position and 170 arms I would be ~1 1/2 cm higher. I also run a 11cm stem with my Noodles. Bottom line... it's way more complex than PBH or Saddle height. ~Mike~ On Dec 30, 6:03 am, newenglandbike wrote: > If you're comfortable on a 58cm long haul trucker then you'd probably > find a similar fit on the Rivendell, since they both have a slight > rise to the TT and 2cm HT extension AFAIK. > > I'm 6' tall with about 89cm pbh and ride a 64cm quickbeam: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029...@n07/4144838542/ > > -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one in green
Oh and by the way ... has anyone seen the green color Grant mentioned? I have been pining away for a SimpleOne but am hoping to see the color before I plop down the deposit on a 58cm. ~Mike~ On Dec 30, 9:28 am, Michael_S wrote: > Of course as Angus said ... call Rivendell. But it's not all PBH. > > Other variables I would mention, pedal and shoe choices, crank arm > length, seatpost setback and saddle position also factor in. > While I'm almost as tall as those who've chimed in at 5"11 1/2" I only > use a SH of 73cm with a PBH of 85. I have a longer torso and arms so > on my 58 Ram I have my B17 all the way back on a 30mm setback > seatpost. I also use a Ritchey SPD pedals which have closer cleat to > axle height and use 175 crank arms. If I used a quill pedal, flat > shoes, middle saddle position and 170 arms I would be ~1 1/2 cm > higher. I also run a 11cm stem with my Noodles. Bottom line... it's > way more complex than PBH or Saddle height. > > ~Mike~ > > On Dec 30, 6:03 am, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > > If you're comfortable on a 58cm long haul trucker then you'd probably > > find a similar fit on the Rivendell, since they both have a slight > > rise to the TT and 2cm HT extension AFAIK. > > > I'm 6' tall with about 89cm pbh and ride a 64cm quickbeam: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029...@n07/4144838542/ > > > -Matt- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS/FT: 53cm Kogswell P/R, Fatty Rumpkins
For sale is a 53 cm Kogswell P/R in good condition. Has small dent on chainstay. Sold with everything seen in pics. F/F, Aheadset C4, 100 mm/90 degree Salsa stem, Tektro cantis, 115 mm BB, 27.2 alum. seat post. $300+shipping in cont. US. http://picasaweb.google.com/117372028987661521999/KogswellPR53cm# Also FS: Pair of Fatty Rumkins with 50 miles on them. $50 or $25 with Kogswell. Would also consider trade/$ combo. Some things I'm interested in trading for: Nitto Campee Front Rack (w/ detachable low-rider mounts), Nitto M-12 rack, med. or med./lg. Acorn saddle bag, S-M Rawland cSogn. Please contact off list if interested. Thanks, Kris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 64 cm Bombadil Arrived!
I went with Rapid Rise when I built up my Sam this summer. The nifty thing about RR is how intuitive it is with bar-end shifters: pull up to shift up, push down to shift down. My other bike is getting the switch to RR soon. Bill On Dec 28, 11:18 pm, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > Well it seems like forever, but in reality it was very quick in arriving. > Even hasd a Christmas Tree and Candy Cane drawn on the box. > > The bike went together flawlessly and the first ride was great. The > Albatross bars are going to take some getting used to I think. > > The basket and grocery bag are great .. which was actually suprising to me. > > The more I look and read I'm seriously looking at the E3 symetrical light > now instead of the Edulux like I have on my ahh. Still hate the tail light > but more light out front sure seems like the way to go. > > Got the 700x50 big apples instead of the fat franks because I was worried > about dirt... started out with 55 psi, think I'll be dropping that > slightly. > > I had just put an xt reat derailur on the ahh standard, the Bombadil came > with rapid rise. Time to switch one of them. Having them different will > drive me nuttier than I already am. > > Weather and this head cold clear up a bit tomorrow see how it does on a > 40ish mile meander. > > Here are some pics from the unboxing. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157625693997926/ > > Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A couple of grainy Sam photos.
Great photos. Thanks for posting. Arizona looks really good from this snowbound point-of-view! Nice Sam H. Is that a 60cm with Pletscher mouse trap rack on the front? I only ask because it looks almost level and I didn't think that was possible using the Sam fork braze-ons. I have one of those racks on the way but wasn't considering putting it on the front for that reason. I'm not interested in using clamps on a fork that has rack braze-ons. Just figured I would mount it on the back. But that looks close enough to level for me! Maybe I will try it after seeing yours. I have a 60 Sam but with a single tt. I love it but enjoy how well your frame pump fits in there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tucson Area Ride Suggestions?
Thanks, cm! Sounds like I have plenty to explore before I leave for the next adventure in February. Oh, and I live on the East side. On Dec 29, 10:29 pm, cm wrote: > Welcome to Tucson! Been here almost 5 years and love it. What part of > town are you in? There are quite a few dirt roads north of town > heading to Oracle. You could probably ride out there forever. The road > that heads out to the 24 hours in the Old Pueblo course goes over some > hills and i think it reaches a spring eventually (never been out that > far). There are also some dirt roads south of town headed toward the > Santa Ritas-- old vail road is dirt i believe. Also some dirt roads in > the middle of town, pretty much between Campbell and Oracle Rd. Along > with those are some trials/ roads that link up with the bike path and > Fantasy Island. I use google maps to map things out and then see how > it goes. > > Mt Lemmon is a great ride and cars are pretty respectful. There are > way too many cyclists up there to not be. Swing by the Safeway on > Tanque Verde and Mt. Lemmon Highway some weekend morning and you will > be astounded at the number of cyclists It isnt that steep honestly it > is just long. Bring plenty of water as there isnt any until > Summerhaven and in the summer there isnt any until Palisades. I have > never had an issue on that road.I think it is scarier going down at > 40+ and sweeping turns. There are also some dirt roads and trails on > Mt Lemmon that may be worth checking out. There is also an old dirt > road up the back side of Mt Lemmon called the Control Road. It starts > in Oracle and ends just before Summerhaven. I have not done it, but > hope to soon. Reddington Road also loops around the Catalinas and > would make a great long day or overnight. All of the roads are god for > riding. > > Be sure to get over to Saguaro National Park East and ride the 8 mile > loop road. Gates Pass on the west side of town is another great ride, > though one that you want to be a little more careful about traffic. > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers! > cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A couple of grainy Sam photos.
They're about 44mm in actual width mounted on Dyads. Pressure when I set out was approximately 60 psi, and i was carrying light loads front/ back. On Dec 29, 11:13 pm, doug peterson wrote: > Maybe Pugsley size could be comfortable on washboard but it would be t- > t-t-tou-gh-gh-gh on anything else, IMHO. What size tires are you on, > at what pressure? > > dougP > > On Dec 29, 9:39 pm, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > > > Made me jealous! Looks like a great time. > > > Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one in green
Hi Y'all, Stopped by Riv today to place My deposit on my Simpleone. The Green in Person is definitely a dark and slimey green. Really nice color in person. I would compare it to the original Quickbeam green but a bit darker and definitely has that slimey glisten to it. I think with the cream accents it will definitely be a winner. Looking forward to the arrival in April. It's going to be a Long 4 months. Dustin G Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hillborne converted to Compact Double
Several things converged on this small winter project. Rather than bore with the backstories, here's the Hillborne with a new compact double drivetrain: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/sets/72157625582849057/ chainguard/42/30 in front 11-32 8 speed in back Suntour XC Pro ft + rear ders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one in green
Thanks Dustin. How does it compare to the green on the RB-1? I just saw the listing on the Riv website and they have a color sample, hard to visualize on monitor though. I have most of the parts now as I just found a NOS Mavic MA3 rim with Miche Primato hub in 36 spokes on EBAY for a steal. ~Mike~ On Dec 30, 10:36 am, EastBayGuy wrote: > Hi Y'all, > > Stopped by Riv today to place My deposit on my Simpleone. The Green in > Person is definitely a dark and slimey green. Really nice color in > person. I would compare it to the original Quickbeam green but a bit > darker and definitely has that slimey glisten to it. I think with the > cream accents it will definitely be a winner. Looking forward to the > arrival in April. It's going to be a Long 4 months. > > Dustin G > Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne converted to Compact Double
Looks good Bill. I know you like black bike stuff, but the Salsa crossing guard comes in a nice shiney silver if you change your mind. I have one on on my Bridgestone T700 Urban ride. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4985030961/in/set-72157616782736096/ I was wondering if the XC Pro rear dérailleur would handle a 32t cog since it say's max 28T on it. I've run it with a 30T and it worked just fine.. now I know. My Ram has XC Pro dérailleurs and hubs BTW. ~Mike` On Dec 30, 11:32 am, William wrote: > Several things converged on this small winter project. Rather than > bore with the backstories, here's the Hillborne with a new compact > double drivetrain: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/sets/72157625582849057/ > > chainguard/42/30 in front > 11-32 8 speed in back > Suntour XC Pro ft + rear ders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
How long does it take you to fix a flat? On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Guilty as charged, you honor... > > On Dec 30, 10:43 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" > wrote: >> Or, of course, drums, Bobby! >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:29 AM >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute >> >> No worry... one can never have too many zipties... >> >> On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte wrote: >>> Lovely idea, >> >>> I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, before it occurred to me >>> that I needed disk brakes to make it work... >> >>> Marc >> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Leslie >>> Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm >>> Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute >>> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled across this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read it here at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even re-read this threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find it here yet. >> http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... >> Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) >> Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> Marc Nolte >>> phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 >>> email: m...@mbn.ca >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> --- >> --- >> >> >> To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you >> that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained >> in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, >> for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal >> Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) >> promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related >> matters addressed herein. >> >> >> >> This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the >> addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or >> confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this >> email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >> copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. >> If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) >> 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any >> email) and any printout thereof. >> >> Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their >> professional qualifications will be provided upon request. >> >> === >> === > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne converted to Compact Double
I think you will really like this set up. I converted my Rambouillet to a White Ind VCB double with a 44/30 and 11-28 9 speed cassette and have really liked it. Front shifting is much more predictable and with an 11 tooth cog the smaller rings eliminate the nee for a triple. Happy New Year michael On Dec 30, 2:32 pm, William wrote: > Several things converged on this small winter project. Rather than > bore with the backstories, here's the Hillborne with a new compact > double drivetrain: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/sets/72157625582849057/ > > chainguard/42/30 in front > 11-32 8 speed in back > Suntour XC Pro ft + rear ders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
I don't know; I haven't flatted yet (knock wood). But as long as I have a 15mm wrench and a flat-bladed screwdriver, the rest is minor. On the front, you gently disconnect the dyno wire (screwdriver helps), compress the (drum) brake caliper and pop the cable off (again screwdriver can help pry off a tightly fitting cable); on the rear, same for the brake cable, and disconnecting the gear cable is a cinch. The non-turn washers can sometimes be stubborn, but the screwdriver (aka "the convincer") takes care of that. I'll take a wild guess that it may add an additional minute or two to each wheel when removing, and the same when connecting. Well worth the extra effort, though. Peace, BB On Dec 30, 4:41 pm, William Pustow wrote: > How long does it take you to fix a flat? > > On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > > > > Guilty as charged, you honor... > > > On Dec 30, 10:43 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" > > wrote: > >> Or, of course, drums, Bobby! > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB > >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:29 AM > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > > >> No worry... one can never have too many zipties... > > >> On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte wrote: > >>> Lovely idea, > > >>> I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, before it occurred to me > >>> that I needed disk brakes to make it work... > > >>> Marc > > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: Leslie > >>> Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm > >>> Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > >>> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled > across this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read > it here at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even > re-read this > threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- > bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find it > here yet. > > http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... > > Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should > be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, > etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) > > Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> Marc Nolte > >>> phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 > >>> email: m...@mbn.ca > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> --- > >> --- > >> > > >> To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you > >> that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice > >> contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and > >> cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties > >> under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law > >> provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party > >> any tax-related matters addressed herein. > >> > >> > > >> This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > >> addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > >> confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > >> email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > >> copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly > >> prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify > >> me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any > >> copy of any email) and any printout thereof. > > >> Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > >> professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > >> > >> ==
[RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
OH, and apologies for going OT... please, no more drum questions on this thread... (but for the record I USE ZIP TIES FOR THE CABLE ROUTING!!!) On Dec 30, 6:21 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > I don't know; I haven't flatted yet (knock wood). > > But as long as I have a 15mm wrench and a flat-bladed screwdriver, the > rest is minor. On the front, you gently disconnect the dyno wire > (screwdriver helps), compress the (drum) brake caliper and pop the > cable off (again screwdriver can help pry off a tightly fitting > cable); on the rear, same for the brake cable, and disconnecting the > gear cable is a cinch. The non-turn washers can sometimes be > stubborn, but the screwdriver (aka "the convincer") takes care of > that. I'll take a wild guess that it may add an additional minute or > two to each wheel when removing, and the same when connecting. Well > worth the extra effort, though. > > Peace, > BB > > On Dec 30, 4:41 pm, William Pustow wrote: > > > > > How long does it take you to fix a flat? > > > On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > > > Guilty as charged, you honor... > > > > On Dec 30, 10:43 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" > > > wrote: > > >> Or, of course, drums, Bobby! > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > >> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:29 AM > > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > > > >> No worry... one can never have too many zipties... > > > >> On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte wrote: > > >>> Lovely idea, > > > >>> I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, before it occurred to me > > >>> that I needed disk brakes to make it work... > > > >>> Marc > > > >>> - Original Message - > > >>> From: Leslie > > >>> Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm > > >>> Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > > >>> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled > > across this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read > > it here at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even > > re-read this > > threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- > > bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find it > > here yet. > > > http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... > > > Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should > > be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, > > etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) > > > Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > >>> -- > > >>> Marc Nolte > > >>> phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 > > >>> email: m...@mbn.ca > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group > > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> > > > >> To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you > > >> that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice > > >> contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and > > >> cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties > > >> under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law > > >> provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party > > >> any tax-related matters addressed herein. > > >> > > >> > > > >> This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > > >> addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > > >> confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > > >> email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > > >> copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly > > >> prohibited. If you receive this email in error plea
Re: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
My work here is finished! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Montclair BobbyB Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:23:06 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute OH, and apologies for going OT... please, no more drum questions on this thread... (but for the record I USE ZIP TIES FOR THE CABLE ROUTING!!!) On Dec 30, 6:21 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > I don't know; I haven't flatted yet (knock wood). > > But as long as I have a 15mm wrench and a flat-bladed screwdriver, the > rest is minor. On the front, you gently disconnect the dyno wire > (screwdriver helps), compress the (drum) brake caliper and pop the > cable off (again screwdriver can help pry off a tightly fitting > cable); on the rear, same for the brake cable, and disconnecting the > gear cable is a cinch. The non-turn washers can sometimes be > stubborn, but the screwdriver (aka "the convincer") takes care of > that. I'll take a wild guess that it may add an additional minute or > two to each wheel when removing, and the same when connecting. Well > worth the extra effort, though. > > Peace, > BB > > On Dec 30, 4:41 pm, William Pustow wrote: > > > > > How long does it take you to fix a flat? > > > On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > > > Guilty as charged, you honor... > > > > On Dec 30, 10:43 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" > > > wrote: > > >> Or, of course, drums, Bobby! > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > >> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:29 AM > > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > > > >> No worry... one can never have too many zipties... > > > >> On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte wrote: > > >>> Lovely idea, > > > >>> I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, before it occurred to me > > >>> that I needed disk brakes to make it work... > > > >>> Marc > > > >>> - Original Message - > > >>> From: Leslie > > >>> Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm > > >>> Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute > > >>> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled > > across this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read > > it here at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even > > re-read this > > threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- > > bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find it > > here yet. > > > http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... > > > Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should > > be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, > > etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) > > > Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > >>> -- > > >>> Marc Nolte > > >>> phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 > > >>> email: m...@mbn.ca > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group > > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > >> --- > > >> --- > > >> > > > >> To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you > > >> that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice > > >> contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and > > >> cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties > > >> under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law > > >> provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party > > >> any tax-related matters addressed herein. > > >> > > >> > > > >> This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > > >> addressee(s) named herein and may c
[RBW] Re: Hillborne converted to Compact Double
Now for a few of the back story pieces 1. Front and rear derailers I bought here on the list. The worst thing about them was that the jockeys were pretty toast, but I had on hand a pair of NOS Suntour sealed bearing pulleys. Perfect for friction shifting. 2. Crankset and BB came off a buddy's bike. He bought a SRAM Red group for his bike, and paid me to do the build for him with a Riv Gift Cert. Those dollars went to my Bombadil this summer. 172.5mm arms are always good with me. No way was I going to use it as a 52/42/30. I might make the small ring a 26, or even a 24. This move liberates my Ritchey 94/58 triple, as a spare or another project. It also liberates a Campy triple front der. 3. I posted a WTB post for this chainguard. Turned out I found it at my LBS, and they gave me a decent deal on it. 4. I had been assembling this drivetrain as a possible kit for an 80's road bike build. This move keeps the headcount in the stable at a marriage-preserving 4. 5. This also liberates an XT mega 9 SGS rear derailler which can go on the tandem, along with a 12-36 cogset. Mega. 6. I also have put a more substantial rear rack on for my next round of Shimmy tests. 7. I'm considering moving this bike into full-commuter status with an Albatross setup. On Dec 30, 2:34 pm, MichaelH wrote: > I think you will really like this set up. I converted my Rambouillet > to a White Ind VCB double with a 44/30 and 11-28 9 speed cassette and > have really liked it. Front shifting is much more predictable and > with an 11 tooth cog the smaller rings eliminate the nee for a triple. > > Happy New Year > michael > > On Dec 30, 2:32 pm, William wrote: > > > Several things converged on this small winter project. Rather than > > bore with the backstories, here's the Hillborne with a new compact > > double drivetrain: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/sets/72157625582849057/ > > > chainguard/42/30 in front > > 11-32 8 speed in back > > Suntour XC Pro ft + rear ders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne converted to Compact Double
8. A common commuting gripe I had was that the big ring grabbed hold of several shoelaces. Now with the guard setup I expect to be liberated from having to remember to tuck those laces in. Or maybe I should be wearing 'splats rain or shine? On Dec 30, 3:46 pm, William wrote: > Now for a few of the back story pieces > > 1. Front and rear derailers I bought here on the list. The worst > thing about them was that the jockeys were pretty toast, but I had on > hand a pair of NOS Suntour sealed bearing pulleys. Perfect for > friction shifting. > 2. Crankset and BB came off a buddy's bike. He bought a SRAM Red > group for his bike, and paid me to do the build for him with a Riv > Gift Cert. Those dollars went to my Bombadil this summer. 172.5mm > arms are always good with me. No way was I going to use it as a > 52/42/30. I might make the small ring a 26, or even a 24. This move > liberates my Ritchey 94/58 triple, as a spare or another project. It > also liberates a Campy triple front der. > 3. I posted a WTB post for this chainguard. Turned out I found it at > my LBS, and they gave me a decent deal on it. > 4. I had been assembling this drivetrain as a possible kit for an > 80's road bike build. This move keeps the headcount in the stable at > a marriage-preserving 4. > 5. This also liberates an XT mega 9 SGS rear derailler which can go > on the tandem, along with a 12-36 cogset. Mega. > 6. I also have put a more substantial rear rack on for my next round > of Shimmy tests. > 7. I'm considering moving this bike into full-commuter status with an > Albatross setup. > > On Dec 30, 2:34 pm, MichaelH wrote: > > > I think you will really like this set up. I converted my Rambouillet > > to a White Ind VCB double with a 44/30 and 11-28 9 speed cassette and > > have really liked it. Front shifting is much more predictable and > > with an 11 tooth cog the smaller rings eliminate the nee for a triple. > > > Happy New Year > > michael > > > On Dec 30, 2:32 pm, William wrote: > > > > Several things converged on this small winter project. Rather than > > > bore with the backstories, here's the Hillborne with a new compact > > > double drivetrain: > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/sets/72157625582849057/ > > > > chainguard/42/30 in front > > > 11-32 8 speed in back > > > Suntour XC Pro ft + rear ders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] RR 31
Does anyone have this as a PDF? Specifically looking Grant's article on the eternal trail question. The Atlantis & I have been out messing with loading againthe things you start mulling about during winter... dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RR 31
Did you know the pdf author was Milhouse Vanhouten? Cali is a mythical place, you know...I have it, but I bought the pdfs from Rivendell...I hesitate to violate copyright , but I will quote, assuming you are a loyal customer..."Experiments With Rake & Trail" Fork rake is how much the front wheel is offset from the steering axis—a straight line through the center of the head tube. The aspect of the bike’s steering geometry that’s affected by fork rake is called trail. Don’t confuse it with a trail you ride on. Road bikes typically have between 2-inches (50.6mm) and 2 1/2-inches (63.5mm) of trail, and bike journalists who’ve written about trail have said 2 1/4-inches (57/58mm) of trail makes a bike not too quick, not too slow, just right. Trail theory says that more trail makes a bike easier to control at high speeds and over rough ground. Mountain bikes typically have between 2 3/4-inches (69.8mm) and three inches 76.2mm) of trail. Less trail, according to theory, makes a bike easier to control at slow speeds, but harder to control when you’re going fast, hitting bumps, or both. Trail is affected by: (1) the wheel radius; (2) the head tube angle; and (3) the fork rake (offset).There are three ways to increase trail: • Bigger front wheel. • Shallower head tube angle. • Less fork rake. Most folks who start thinking about trail temporarily get confused at least three times, and think more rake makes more trail. Nupe. To calculate trail using arithmetic: Trail = Wheel radius/Tan. of head tube angle minus fork offset/Sin. of head tube angle. If that’s Greek to you, we should be in the same club. I have it programmed on my computer here, so I just plug in the numbers and there you go… How Trail Affects Our Frame Designs When I design a Rivendell, I find the typical tire the rider will ride, and then the biggest. For all-purpose road riding, I shoot for 60-61mm of trail with the most common tire. That’s more than what “experts have said” results in neutral handling, but they are not the boss of me. Nor should they be of you! Then I see what the trail is with the largest tire. Normally a customer will say, “I’ll ride a 700x28 most of the time, but there are some fire roads here, and I’ll ride 700x35s when I go there.” Well, that works out just fine, because the bigger tire will increase the trail, making the bike better for the fire road (so goes trail theory). Most frame designers have a trail figure they’re comfortable with, depending on the bike’s intended purpose. But some copy other manufacturer’s geometries—not a bad thing to do, and I hope we haven’t reached the point where somebody out there considers Xmm of trail to be intellectual property. Finally, some builders just know from experience what works, and don’t think about trail. That’s fine, too! In Italy in the ‘80s it was common for the top makers to put 45mm of rake on each fork, regardless of the frame’s head tube angle. The big bikes, which almost always had steeper head tubes, didn’t have much trail, but the little bikes (with slacker head tubes) had more than plenty. I wouldn’t say that’s all that fine; in fact it seems odd to me. But these same Italian frames were ridden to many prestigious victories, which will impress those in the “results speak for themselves” camp. I’m in the “trail doesn’t win races” camp. When you first learn about trail, you may find yourself getting obsessed. It happened to me and I’ve seen it happen to others. Trail is interesting, but it is not the sole ‘splainer of bike handling, something nobody knows better than Waterford’s Marc Muller (more on him later). The Educational-Type Fun Begins FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS I’VE WANTED to experiment with trail by getting some forks with adjustable rakes, so we did. We also got non-adjustable forks with no rake, and with 65mm (whopping lot) of rake. You can do that when you have your own bike company and a publication to get out, but it takes more than snapping your fingers. The bikes are 59cm Romuluses. The Romulus is a road bike with what I think is a perfect geometry for allaround road riding. Pertinent to this story, it has a 73- degree head tube with 42.5mm of rake, which, with the stock Ruffy-Tuffy tire (343mm radius), results in 60mm of trail. It is as familiar to me as it gets. We equipped three bikes with different forks—adjustable rake, 0mm rake, and 65mm rake; and of course we have a normal one, too (42.5mm rake), so really, four. I rode it up and down Mount Diablo and the local streets and roads. I rode it loaded and unloaded, on smooth and rough ground, holding onto the bars like you’re supposed to, and no hands; over speed bumps (with hands and no hands), with a heavy basket, and at different speeds. The Problem With This Test It combines objective numbers and subjective feelings, and what I feel may not be what you’d feel, because maybe we’re used to different bikes, or one of us is more sensitive than the other. Also keep in mind that describing bicycle handling with
[RBW] Re: A couple of grainy Sam photos.
It's a 56 cm, and (good eye) that is a Pletscher on the front... If your fork dropouts have two eyelets each, you should be able to mount directly to the upper eyelets as I have done. It does tilt down a bit toward the front, but it's more stable than with clamps and I like that. By the way, the mountains that looked so sunny and warm a few days ago are now dusted with snow. On Dec 30, 2:31 am, Will wrote: > Great photos. Thanks for posting. Arizona looks really good from this > snowbound point-of-view! Nice Sam H. Is that a 60cm with Pletscher > mouse trap rack on the front? I only ask because it looks almost level > and I didn't think that was possible using the Sam fork braze-ons. I > have one of those racks on the way but wasn't considering putting it > on the front for that reason. I'm not interested in using clamps on a > fork that has rack braze-ons. Just figured I would mount it on the > back. But that looks close enough to level for me! Maybe I will try it > after seeing yours. I have a 60 Sam but with a single tt. I love it > but enjoy how well your frame pump fits in there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] AHH Gets A New Old Crank Set, Old Rear Derailleur - Feels Fantastic !
My bicycle came alive today, and we were synchronized. It was a great feeling. Euphoria hit and and drivers kept staring. Maybe it's was because of the big fellow in the red rain-coat riding atop the turmeric-colored double-top-tubed bicycle. I felt like it was because they were celebrating with me in sharing the huge smile upon my face. :) I gotta say, today was a good day. Here's a photo for your viewing pleasure: http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/5307702174/in/photostream/ TA Carmina 185 cranks, Sugino chainrings 52 / 38, Shimano Ultegra 6700 rear derailleur. And waxed chain with a 80 / 20 Mix of Paraffin to Bees Wax for clean silent riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Simple one in green
Oops. Forgot to mention. The color description was just from a color sample in the paint brochure. So we will just have to see what it looks like when they arrive. I know from experience that you can't always trust such a small sample from a brochure, but I am sure she will be pretty sweet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
