[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride

2010-09-23 Thread Garth

The saying "cash on the barrelhead" means cash, no credit. .  .  so
it's safe to assume that's what they mean.
Get your 50 and 100 dollar bills handy.

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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Justin August
My whole point is this:
Those who are unable to laugh at themselves are doomed to be laughed
at by others.

If you can't have a sense of humor about the "Buy Steel, Wool, Eat
Primal, Wear sandals with socks, etc" culture surrounding Riv then you
shouldn't be mocking the "Tight lycra, Carbon fiber, tall seatpost
short stem, skinny tires, fuel gel" culture either. Or the "Stretch
jeans, plaid shirts, color coordinated, messenger bag" culture either.

It's all in good fun. BSNYC's biggest target is often himself.

On Sep 22, 9:23 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> > As someone who does the same - it is not frowned upon. It is a sign
> > that you are not a shill for said company.
>
> So that makes it legit...
>
> > If you find the comment offensive - consider yourself square in the
> > 'fop' category!
>
> Right again...
>
> Peace,
>
> Bobby "52-year-old-fop-who-still-believes-in-nice" Birmingham

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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Justin August
My whole point is this:
Those who are unable to laugh at themselves are doomed to be laughed
at by others.

If you can't have a sense of humor about the "Buy Steel, Wool, Eat
Primal, Wear sandals with socks, etc" culture surrounding Riv then you
shouldn't be mocking the "Tight lycra, Carbon fiber, tall seatpost
short stem, skinny tires, fuel gel" culture either. Or the "Stretch
jeans, plaid shirts, color coordinated, messenger bag" culture either.

It's all in good fun. BSNYC's biggest target is often himself.

On Sep 22, 9:23 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> > As someone who does the same - it is not frowned upon. It is a sign
> > that you are not a shill for said company.
>
> So that makes it legit...
>
> > If you find the comment offensive - consider yourself square in the
> > 'fop' category!
>
> Right again...
>
> Peace,
>
> Bobby "52-year-old-fop-who-still-believes-in-nice" Birmingham

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[RBW] Re: simpleone sample

2010-09-23 Thread Justin August
I'm highly debating it, personally.

I'd love to have a Fixie Fop Chariot to go with my Bleriot. I'm not
sure if it's too small or not. And if I'd get slaughtered by bringing
a new bike home.

On Sep 23, 12:23 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 9/22/10 7:23 PM, jandrews_nyc at jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site..
> > Why is it still available?...
> > like, what's wrong with it?
>
> ...still 2 cm's too small for me. I keep hoping it will get a short growth
> spurt.
>
> - J
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[RBW] Re: simpleone sample

2010-09-23 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Hmm, curious minds want to know. Your wife went from trying to get you
a bike frame to a weekend travel bag?  What did you do wrong? :)

On Sep 22, 9:41 pm, A D  wrote:
> Just found out that my wife tried to pick it up for me for my birthday
> last week.  I got a weekend travel bag instead.
>
> She knows my quest for a 58cm Quickbeam well.
>
> On Sep 22, 7:29 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
>
>
>
> > it's a hair too small for me, or i'd be all over it.  literally.  
>
> > On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:23 PM, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
> > > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site..
> > > Why is it still available?...
> > > like, what's wrong with it?
>
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Re: [RBW] Fitting a chariot

2010-09-23 Thread Jon Grant
Allan,

Like you, my PBH is 85 cm, though I'm an inch shorter than you at 5'-8.5". I
used to ride a 56cm Trek 760, which always felt a little cramped. I now
divide my time between a 60.5cm Riv custom and a 59cm Bleriot. (or is it 58?
I forget.) I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a 59 or 60 to test ride in
Portland, and I'd be more surprised if you didn't love it almost
immediately.

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Austin, Texas




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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Point well taken...
(Although I hope people aren't laughing at my argyles and
Birkenstocks..)

On Sep 23, 6:53 am, Justin August  wrote:
> My whole point is this:
> Those who are unable to laugh at themselves are doomed to be laughed
> at by others.
>
> If you can't have a sense of humor about the "Buy Steel, Wool, Eat
> Primal, Wear sandals with socks, etc" culture surrounding Riv then you
> shouldn't be mocking the "Tight lycra, Carbon fiber, tall seatpost
> short stem, skinny tires, fuel gel" culture either. Or the "Stretch
> jeans, plaid shirts, color coordinated, messenger bag" culture either.
>
> It's all in good fun. BSNYC's biggest target is often himself.
>
> On Sep 22, 9:23 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > As someone who does the same - it is not frowned upon. It is a sign
> > > that you are not a shill for said company.
>
> > So that makes it legit...
>
> > > If you find the comment offensive - consider yourself square in the
> > > 'fop' category!
>
> > Right again...
>
> > Peace,
>
> > Bobby "52-year-old-fop-who-still-believes-in-nice" Birmingham- Hide quoted 
> > text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread JoelMatthews
> If you can't have a sense of humor about the "Buy Steel, Wool, Eat
> Primal, Wear sandals with socks, etc" culture surrounding Riv then you
> shouldn't be mocking the "Tight lycra, Carbon fiber, tall seatpost
> short stem, skinny tires, fuel gel" culture either. Or the "Stretch
> jeans, plaid shirts, color coordinated, messenger bag" culture either.

Still do not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
same joke over and over and over and over and over again.

On Sep 23, 5:53 am, Justin August  wrote:
> My whole point is this:
> Those who are unable to laugh at themselves are doomed to be laughed
> at by others.
>
> If you can't have a sense of humor about the "Buy Steel, Wool, Eat
> Primal, Wear sandals with socks, etc" culture surrounding Riv then you
> shouldn't be mocking the "Tight lycra, Carbon fiber, tall seatpost
> short stem, skinny tires, fuel gel" culture either. Or the "Stretch
> jeans, plaid shirts, color coordinated, messenger bag" culture either.
>
> It's all in good fun. BSNYC's biggest target is often himself.
>
> On Sep 22, 9:23 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > As someone who does the same - it is not frowned upon. It is a sign
> > > that you are not a shill for said company.
>
> > So that makes it legit...
>
> > > If you find the comment offensive - consider yourself square in the
> > > 'fop' category!
>
> > Right again...
>
> > Peace,
>
> > Bobby "52-year-old-fop-who-still-believes-in-nice" Birmingham- Hide quoted 
> > text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 05:37 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > If you can't have a sense of humor about the "Buy Steel, Wool, Eat
> > Primal, Wear sandals with socks, etc" culture surrounding Riv then you
> > shouldn't be mocking the "Tight lycra, Carbon fiber, tall seatpost
> > short stem, skinny tires, fuel gel" culture either. Or the "Stretch
> > jeans, plaid shirts, color coordinated, messenger bag" culture either.
> 
> Still do not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
> same joke over and over and over and over and over again.

I agree, BSNYC became boring and repetitious to me long ago.



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[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride

2010-09-23 Thread John Bennett
Hey, Mitch,

Yep, cash. We're going to divide up the stuff by price point, post a
Riv employee in each area, and (like last time), you pay for what you
want in that section, and then move on to the next pile of stuff- with
your purchase, and minus your cash.

It's a simple system.

Of course, exceptions can be made for items exceeding $1000. I guess I
better check and see if we have any items exceeding $1000.

Bottom line- Kash Is King!

Cheers,

John

On Sep 22, 7:30 pm, Mitch Browne  wrote:
> John,
>
> The Riv site says cash only on the barrel head. Is that literally cash
> only or will you take plastic or checks. I'll have cash but not
> thousands ;)
>
> I'll be driving up from San Luis Obispo Friday.
>
> Cheers, Mitch
>
> On Sep 22, 1:45 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > But only if they give me a discount off list!
>
> > On Sep 22, 3:24 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, JoelMatthews  
> > > wrote:
> > > > Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to act
> > > > as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list.  You
> > > > read it here.
>
> > >  Note to Grant or John  <--- you can get Joel to pay you to
> > > let him buy a bike :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
 not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
>> same joke over and over and over and over and over again.
>
> I agree, BSNYC became boring and repetitious to me long ago.

The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.

I think it was CS Lewis who spoke of the "fine maturity of old jokes"
or words to that effect, iow, of repeated jokes.

Patrick "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes
Repetition" Moore, who does not like excessive earnestness.

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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Patrick, YOU need your own blog... too funny!

On Sep 23, 9:21 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>  not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
>
> >> same joke over and over and over and over and over again.
>
> > I agree, BSNYC became boring and repetitious to me long ago.
>
> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>
> I think it was CS Lewis who spoke of the "fine maturity of old jokes"
> or words to that effect, iow, of repeated jokes.
>
> Patrick "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes
> Repetition" Moore, who does not like excessive earnestness.
>
> --
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> Albuquerque, NM
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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Nah -- would be boring and repetitious (and this time I'm not kidding).

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Montclair BobbyB
 wrote:
> Patrick, YOU need your own blog... too funny!
>
> On Sep 23, 9:21 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>>
>>  not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
>>
>> >> same joke over and over and over and over and over again.
>>
>> > I agree, BSNYC became boring and repetitious to me long ago.
>>
>> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>>
>> I think it was CS Lewis who spoke of the "fine maturity of old jokes"
>> or words to that effect, iow, of repeated jokes.
>>
>> Patrick "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes
>> Repetition" Moore, who does not like excessive earnestness.
>>
>> --
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>> Albuquerque, NM
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>> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Mini or Marks Rack ?

2010-09-23 Thread Earl Grey
"... always buy the Mini when you can. Be happy with the
Mark's when you can't use the Mini. "

Sounds right to me, too. I have a mini on a Sam, and the other day
brought home a 22lb bag of cat litter, and 13lbs of cat food, all in a
rattan basket zip-tied to the mini. Not an ideal load distribution :),
but fine for the ride home from the store, and the mini was solid as
can be.

Gernot "the Nitto mini front maximum load gauntlet has been thrown
down" Huber

On Sep 23, 2:50 am, Garth  wrote:
> Storm, Marks' rack will suit you fine. I also have a frame that won't
> allow a Mini rack due to a threaded fork crown. I could go drillin'
> but I don't think so!  Mark's rack will fit any bike, and that's a big
> plus for many.  As far as the weight load . I don't know . how
> much are you going to be putting on it ?  The Platrack is a nice add-
> on if want a hauler, but for the price and weight there's lots of
> other brands of basket/platform type racks out there to choose from if
> you need a hauler.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Mini or Marks Rack ?

2010-09-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
This inspires me to get a Platrack for my mini... order has been
placed. Thanks!

On Sep 23, 10:20 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
> "... always buy the Mini when you can. Be happy with the
> Mark's when you can't use the Mini. "
>
> Sounds right to me, too. I have a mini on a Sam, and the other day
> brought home a 22lb bag of cat litter, and 13lbs of cat food, all in a
> rattan basket zip-tied to the mini. Not an ideal load distribution :),
> but fine for the ride home from the store, and the mini was solid as
> can be.
>
> Gernot "the Nitto mini front maximum load gauntlet has been thrown
> down" Huber
>
> On Sep 23, 2:50 am, Garth  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Storm, Marks' rack will suit you fine. I also have a frame that won't
> > allow a Mini rack due to a threaded fork crown. I could go drillin'
> > but I don't think so!  Mark's rack will fit any bike, and that's a big
> > plus for many.  As far as the weight load . I don't know . how
> > much are you going to be putting on it ?  The Platrack is a nice add-
> > on if want a hauler, but for the price and weight there's lots of
> > other brands of basket/platform type racks out there to choose from if
> > you need a hauler.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: simpleone sample

2010-09-23 Thread A D
The weekend bag was also packed with two Rapha shirts and touring
shorts and we spent a night at the new Westin in Napa.  Where our
friends joined us for a night out at Morimoto's.  So I didn't make out
too bad.

Spotted a couple of Atlantis' at the Oxbow farmers market too!

I still have the go ahead to pick up a Quickbeam if I ever come across
one.

On Sep 23, 4:00 am, Ken Yokanovich 
wrote:
> Hmm, curious minds want to know. Your wife went from trying to get you
> a bike frame to a weekend travel bag?  What did you do wrong? :)
>
> On Sep 22, 9:41 pm, A D  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Just found out that my wife tried to pick it up for me for my birthday
> > last week.  I got a weekend travel bag instead.
>
> > She knows my quest for a 58cm Quickbeam well.
>
> > On Sep 22, 7:29 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
>
> > > it's a hair too small for me, or i'd be all over it.  literally.  
>
> > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:23 PM, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
> > > > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site..
> > > > Why is it still available?...
> > > > like, what's wrong with it?
>
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RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Frederick, Steve
You can get a nice repaint for half that dollar difference.  If you don't care 
about fenders, I vote Rambouillet...

Steve

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell


> 1) It will be a bit newer.
> 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that.
> 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your 
> pref).
> 4) More choices of color
> 5) Slightly shorter chainstay (if I remember your intended uses correctly)

Some good points.

1.  Can't argue that (although this one is pretty great condition)
2.  I don't want to run fenders on that bike because it won't need
them. I can get Jack Brown's on without fenders.
3.  I would go threaded even with the Roadeo because I prefer it.
4.  This is my only drawback.  Love the blue but I was going to get an
orange Roadeo
5.  I will need to think about that one.

I just am not sure the color is worth and extra $1800.

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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Justin August
I don't know, let's gab on about how great those sugino cranks are.
But what we'd really like is to see the Ritchy triples in production
again. With a polished finish.

Again.

;)

-Justin

On Sep 23, 9:21 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>  not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
>
> >> same joke over and over and over and over and over again.
>
> > I agree, BSNYC became boring and repetitious to me long ago.
>
> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>
> I think it was CS Lewis who spoke of the "fine maturity of old jokes"
> or words to that effect, iow, of repeated jokes.
>
> Patrick "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes
> Repetition" Moore, who does not like excessive earnestness.
>
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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread JoelMatthews
> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious

Three years ago the threads on this board discussed the new Hilsen,
Bleriot, Quickbeam and Legolas builds, the new Ruffy Tuffy tires and
bike luggage called Nigel something or another.  Now these threads
discuss the new Roadeo, Hunqapillar and Hillborne, Bombadil builds,
the new Pari-Moto tires, and Sackville and Brand V bike luggage.

On the other hand, 3 years ago BSNYC was joking about Riv owners
spending big bucks for shiney heavy steel bikes and was predicting the
apocalypse of the FGN, still common themes for him today.

On Sep 23, 8:21 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>  not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
>
> >> same joke over and over and over and over and over again.
>
> > I agree, BSNYC became boring and repetitious to me long ago.
>
> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>
> I think it was CS Lewis who spoke of the "fine maturity of old jokes"
> or words to that effect, iow, of repeated jokes.
>
> Patrick "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes
> Repetition" Moore, who does not like excessive earnestness.
>
> --
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> Albuquerque, NM
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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Mike

>
> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>
Whatever.

Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know what the biggest size
tire is you can use on a Rambouillet with fenders?

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Johnny Alien
Nope, no fenders needed.  I thought about the repaint as well. I may
look into it after a thorough test period.

On Sep 23, 10:49 am, "Frederick, Steve" 
wrote:
> You can get a nice repaint for half that dollar difference.  If you don't 
> care about fenders, I vote Rambouillet...
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:44 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
>
> > 1) It will be a bit newer.
> > 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that.
> > 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your 
> > pref).
> > 4) More choices of color
> > 5) Slightly shorter chainstay (if I remember your intended uses correctly)
>
> Some good points.
>
> 1.  Can't argue that (although this one is pretty great condition)
> 2.  I don't want to run fenders on that bike because it won't need
> them. I can get Jack Brown's on without fenders.
> 3.  I would go threaded even with the Roadeo because I prefer it.
> 4.  This is my only drawback.  Love the blue but I was going to get an
> orange Roadeo
> 5.  I will need to think about that one.
>
> I just am not sure the color is worth and extra $1800.
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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread stevep33
Hahahaha! ironic interruption is awesome.

Reality is hilarious.  I'm wearing MUSA shorts and a wool shirt as I
type.  BS is a keen observer.  Besides, count yourself lucky that
you're not a hipster or a roadie because BS comes down much harder on
them.  I think his gentle ribbing of the Riv set is actually a nod to
Rivishness being relatively less ridiculous than other bike nations.


On Sep 23, 11:29 am, Mike  wrote:
> > The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>
> Whatever.
>
> Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know what the biggest size
> tire is you can use on a Rambouillet with fenders?
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride

2010-09-23 Thread Mitch Browne
John,

Will will the regular store / goods be open and  available for
purchase too?

For instance I was hoping to pick up another bottle of El Duke and
other odds ends.

On Sep 23, 5:55 am, John Bennett  wrote:
> Hey, Mitch,
>
> Yep, cash. We're going to divide up the stuff by price point, post a
> Riv employee in each area, and (like last time), you pay for what you
> want in that section, and then move on to the next pile of stuff- with
> your purchase, and minus your cash.
>
> It's a simple system.
>
> Of course, exceptions can be made for items exceeding $1000. I guess I
> better check and see if we have any items exceeding $1000.
>
> Bottom line- Kash Is King!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> On Sep 22, 7:30 pm, Mitch Browne  wrote:
>
>
>
> > John,
>
> > The Riv site says cash only on the barrel head. Is that literally cash
> > only or will you take plastic or checks. I'll have cash but not
> > thousands ;)
>
> > I'll be driving up from San Luis Obispo Friday.
>
> > Cheers, Mitch
>
> > On Sep 22, 1:45 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > > But only if they give me a discount off list!
>
> > > On Sep 22, 3:24 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
> > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, JoelMatthews  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to act
> > > > > as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list.  You
> > > > > read it here.
>
> > > >  Note to Grant or John  <--- you can get Joel to pay you to
> > > > let him buy a bike :)

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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Philip Williamson
I'm a fop. White shoes, painted fenders, color-matched bike.
http://www.biketinker.com/2010/projects/skate-deck-pedals/skate-deck-pedal-prototyping/attachment/img_0140/

I'm putting the next "bikesnob sucks / no he doesn't" thread on my
calendar to start December 11th. See you there!

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com



On Sep 23, 8:36 am, stevep33  wrote:
> Hahahaha! ironic interruption is awesome.
>
> Reality is hilarious.  I'm wearing MUSA shorts and a wool shirt as I
> type.  BS is a keen observer.  Besides, count yourself lucky that
> you're not a hipster or a roadie because BS comes down much harder on
> them.  I think his gentle ribbing of the Riv set is actually a nod to
> Rivishness being relatively less ridiculous than other bike nations.
>
> On Sep 23, 11:29 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> > > The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>
> > Whatever.
>
> > Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know what the biggest size
> > tire is you can use on a Rambouillet with fenders?
>
> > --mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Jon Grant
This whole thread has become a parody of itself.

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Yay!

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
> This whole thread has become a parody of itself.
>
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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread William
I agree with those who think BSNYC repeats his jokes too often.  I'm
going to ask him to refund the price I paid for the privilege to read
his blog, and spend my blog-admission dollars elsewhere.

On Sep 23, 6:41 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Nah -- would be boring and repetitious (and this time I'm not kidding).
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Montclair BobbyB
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> > Patrick, YOU need your own blog... too funny!
>
> > On Sep 23, 9:21 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> >>  not follow why having a sense of humor means laughing at the
>
> >> >> same joke over and over and over and over and over again.
>
> >> > I agree, BSNYC became boring and repetitious to me long ago.
>
> >> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious.
>
> >> I think it was CS Lewis who spoke of the "fine maturity of old jokes"
> >> or words to that effect, iow, of repeated jokes.
>
> >> Patrick "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes Repetition" Moore "Likes
> >> Repetition" Moore, who does not like excessive earnestness.
>
> >> --
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> >> Albuquerque, NM
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[RBW] FS:56cm Atlantis Frame/fork/wheelset

2010-09-23 Thread Michael Williams
I have a 2007 56cm Atlantis frame/fork/headset for sale. Also I have A
really great wheelset/tires for sale as well. Mavic 719/XT 36h 26"
Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. Id like to sell them together. The bike
and wheelset are both used. Bike shows normal use from mounting racks,
chainsuck, a couple a paint chips. Wheels are very solid, completely
true and the hubs spin great. I love this bike, just realizing its too
small. Probably gonna get another Atlantis or maybe Hunq. Id like to
get $1500 for everything, but am open to negotiations. I can email
some pics if anyone is interested. thanks Mike

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[RBW] WTB Bridgestone MB-1 or Mid 80's Stumpjumper

2010-09-23 Thread Michael Williams
Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 or mid 80's Stumpjumper they want to
sell. I know its a long
shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame. Thanks, Mike

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Racks

2010-09-23 Thread jandrews_nyc
I have a Mark's Rack that I've used daily for 2 years...
Its used, not abused..I never cut the struts so it's pretty much the
way I received it from Rivendell.
It's dirty, I can polish it up before I ship.  $65.00

Also
I have a Nitto R-15 rear pannier rack that I purchased off this list
early in the summer.
It's basically the Top Rack that Riv sells with the addition of being
able to carry two small panniers.
For some reason it doesn't suit me.   It does have the struts cut to
fit my Bleriot perfectly...but if they are too short for you, Riv
sells them.  $75.00

These, Prices don't include shipping but I will ship as cheaply as I
can.

pics:
http://tiny.cc/fo22n

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Bruce
PLEASE DO!!




>>Not to hijack the thread <<



>>but does anyone know what the biggest size
tire is you can use on a Rambouillet with fenders?<<


I can get fenders on with 32s. Except Woody's fenders which bring me down to a 
28 max tire size. The bike takes 37 mm tires max, so I suspect it should be 
okay 
up to 34mm on the tire. 


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:29 -0700, Mike wrote:

> Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know what the biggest size
> tire is you can use on a Rambouillet with fenders?

For me it was 28mm.



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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread stevep33
With or without air?

On Sep 23, 11:29 am, Mike  wrote:
> Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know what the biggest size
> tire is you can use on a Rambouillet with fenders?

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[RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread EricP
Well, as long as you're not a fattie on a bike, you'll be fine.
(That's what made me stop subscribing from BSNYC, twice).

Eric (still fat) Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sep 23, 1:30 pm, stevep33  wrote:
> With or without air?
>
> On Sep 23, 11:29 am, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know what the biggest size
> > tire is you can use on a Rambouillet with fenders?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Rick's Atlantis (was quick Platrack report)

2010-09-23 Thread Rick
Muchas gracias, it is far and away the best thing I've ever bought
with money.  My wife knows that I love her dearly, but is savvy enough
to let me keep the Atlantis in the dining room so I don't get
seperation anxiety.

On Sep 22, 7:48 pm, William  wrote:
> But it's cross-chaining!  Bike Snob would DISAPPROVE!!
>
> I kid I kid.
>
> On Sep 22, 4:37 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Rick,
> > Your Atlantis is the bomb! (Not literally, and not Bombadiliterally either.)
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/4689767208/in/photostream/
>
> > Makes me want to take off on a bike for a couple years.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > >From: Rick 
> > >Sent: Sep 22, 2010 2:04 PM
> > >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > >Subject: [RBW] Re: quick Platrack report
>
> > >I do a bit of both. For commuting purposes on Bleriot, most of the
> > >weight is the laptop and files up front, clothes and stuff are behind
> > >the seat:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/4637721608/
>
> > >That Nitto rack on the back has been swapped for a mini, and is now at
> > >home on the Atlantis; on farmer's market days, I'll use two ortleib
> > >panniers on the back of the Atlantis to cart purchases home, and
> > >feeding six, the weight adds up.  Obviously, steering is different
> > >between the Bleriot front load and Atlantis rear load, but you just
> > >get used to it.
>
> > >The main difference for me is that out of the saddle, I notice a heavy
> > >rear load sways more on the way home from  the market than I do the
> > >files in front on the way to and from work.  Again, no big deal, but
> > >it's there.
>
> > >Rick.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks

2010-09-23 Thread boomer
PM'ed on the Mark Rack

On Sep 23, 10:28 am, jandrews_nyc  wrote:
> I have a Mark's Rack that I've used daily for 2 years...
> Its used, not abused..I never cut the struts so it's pretty much the
> way I received it from Rivendell.
> It's dirty, I can polish it up before I ship.  $65.00
>
> Also
> I have a Nitto R-15 rear pannier rack that I purchased off this list
> early in the summer.
> It's basically the Top Rack that Riv sells with the addition of being
> able to carry two small panniers.
> For some reason it doesn't suit me.   It does have the struts cut to
> fit my Bleriot perfectly...but if they are too short for you, Riv
> sells them.  $75.00
>
> These, Prices don't include shipping but I will ship as cheaply as I
> can.
>
> pics:http://tiny.cc/fo22n

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread James Warren
How is the price difference $1800? Is that the difference between the complete 
Rambouillet and what you estimate the built up Roadeo will be? 


-Original Message-
>From: Johnny Alien 
>Sent: Sep 23, 2010 8:32 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
>
>Nope, no fenders needed.  I thought about the repaint as well. I may
>look into it after a thorough test period.
>
>On Sep 23, 10:49 am, "Frederick, Steve" 
>wrote:
>> You can get a nice repaint for half that dollar difference.  If you don't 
>> care about fenders, I vote Rambouillet...
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>>
>> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:44 PM
>> To: RBW Owners Bunch
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
>>
>> > 1) It will be a bit newer.
>> > 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that.
>> > 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your 
>> > pref).
>> > 4) More choices of color
>> > 5) Slightly shorter chainstay (if I remember your intended uses correctly)
>>
>> Some good points.
>>
>> 1.  Can't argue that (although this one is pretty great condition)
>> 2.  I don't want to run fenders on that bike because it won't need
>> them. I can get Jack Brown's on without fenders.
>> 3.  I would go threaded even with the Roadeo because I prefer it.
>> 4.  This is my only drawback.  Love the blue but I was going to get an
>> orange Roadeo
>> 5.  I will need to think about that one.
>>
>> I just am not sure the color is worth and extra $1800.
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[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Johnny Alien
> How is the price difference $1800? Is that the difference between the 
> complete Rambouillet and what you estimate the built up Roadeo will be?

A complete Roadeo runs from about $3300 to $4300 depending on the
build.  The Rambouillet complete is at least $1800 cheaper than the
Roadeo complete would be.

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[RBW] Canti-rom and dt shifters?

2010-09-23 Thread andrew hill
hi folks,

i'm in negotiations to pick up a canti-Romulus frameset, and dreaming about the 
eventual build.
one question - looking at picks of the Rom around the interwebs, about half of 
em i see have downtube shifters. 

does this mean that a stock (canti) Romulus have bosses for the dt shifters?  
or were these all added aftermarket?

thanks,
andrew

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Re: [RBW] Canti-rom and dt shifters?

2010-09-23 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM, andrew hill  wrote:
> hi folks,
>
> i'm in negotiations to pick up a canti-Romulus frameset, and dreaming about 
> the eventual build.
> one question - looking at picks of the Rom around the interwebs, about half 
> of em i see have downtube shifters.
>
> does this mean that a stock (canti) Romulus have bosses for the dt shifters?  
> or were these all added aftermarket?
>

Of the 2 roms I've seen up close and personal both of them had dt
shifter bosses.

I'd suspect they all do.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread James Warren


>> The threads on these lists are, if not boring, certainly repetitious
>

More threads per topic makes for a more supple, smooth ride through cyberspace.

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Re: [RBW] WTB Bridgestone MB-1 or Mid 80's Stumpjumper

2010-09-23 Thread John Speare
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Michael Williams
 wrote:
>
> Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 or mid 80's Stumpjumper they want to
> sell. I know its a long
> shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame. Thanks, Mike
>
> --

I have neither, but I'm curious what your goal is -- these bikes are
very different. The first generation stumpjumpers are super slack,
long chainstay, ultra turds with "specialized touring" steel. The 94
MB1 is much steeper, super climber, fancy tubing, much faster
handling.






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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

2010-09-23 Thread John Speare
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Montclair BobbyB
 wrote:
> Patrick, YOU need your own blog... too funny!
>
>

He has one. It's called iBOB list.

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Re: [RBW] Canti-rom and dt shifters?

2010-09-23 Thread James Warren
Oh, you are so lucky. I hope you make that deal happen. That canti-Rom, could 
be the most classic of all Rivendell classics. Hilsen-like capabilities before 
there ever was a Hilsen with the ride of Ram.


-Original Message-
>From: andrew hill 
>Sent: Sep 23, 2010 1:36 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Canti-rom and dt shifters?
>
>hi folks,
>
>i'm in negotiations to pick up a canti-Romulus frameset, and dreaming about 
>the eventual build.
>one question - looking at picks of the Rom around the interwebs, about half of 
>em i see have downtube shifters. 
>
>does this mean that a stock (canti) Romulus have bosses for the dt shifters?  
>or were these all added aftermarket?
>
>thanks,
>andrew
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB Bridgestone MB-1 or Mid 80's Stumpjumper

2010-09-23 Thread Philip Williamson
Close - There were two small MB-zips and an MB-2 on sfbay Craigslist
recently.
I tried to get my friend to get one, but he thought a 19" mtb was too
big for him. I mailed him a packet of Riv Kool-Ade, though, so he
should start regretting having passed up the MB-2 any minute now...

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Sep 23, 9:15 am, Michael Williams 
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> Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 or mid 80's Stumpjumper they want to
> sell. I know its a long
> shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame. Thanks, Mike

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[RBW] Re: Canti-rom and dt shifters?

2010-09-23 Thread Michael Gordon
My canti-rom had bosses for dt shifters.

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[RBW] Re: different cockpits on one frame

2010-09-23 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Now version 2: I''ve added a few more comments based on experience. No
new pictures yet, sorry.

http://tiny.cc/h1p8s

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean


On Sep 9, 12:27 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> Hi, all!
>
> (wordy... skip to the link for the main content)
>
> For about a year before I got my Hillborne, I was a happy Albatross
> bar cyclist. I remain a happy Albatross bar cyclist. But in my youth I
> rode drop bars and liked them. Later I had also ridden mountain-bike-y
> bars and liked them. Having ridden almost daily for a couple of years
> now, I've gone from being a total couch-potato huffing-puffing fat guy
> to being an energetic less-fat able-bodied guy. Along the way I have
> discovered that almost all of my ideas about "discomfort" when cycling
> were really reflecting my utter lack of general fitness. Growing more
> fit made me realize I could sit this way and move that way and bend
> the other way, without causing pain or feeling at risk. That is, I
> started feeling even *more* comfortable on my bike, more loose and
> more "able". And started thinking "you know, it wouldn't be so bad to
> stretch out here, lean there, tuck in more". I began to wonder what
> riding in positions besides being bolt upright might be like. And now
> that I had a Hillborne frameset, surely one of the most versatile bike
> platforms around, I thought perhaps I could set it up with different
> handlebars to accommodate somewhat different riding styles and
> positions.
>
> I had, as a stout-but-active middle-aged man, become bar-curious.
>
> (sorry...)
>
> In case you're still reading, below is a link to my web page
> describing how I satisfied my curiosity. There you'll find
> descriptions, parts lists, some pictures, and general comments. And, I
> promise, no puns.
>
> http://tiny.cc/h1p8s
>
> I really can't overstate how much I like my Hillborne. For me, its
> lengths and angles have felt exactly right from the very first time I
> sat on one. Putting parts on it was truly fun. And now it looks
> beautiful and rides great. In all its forms.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Canti-rom and dt shifters?

2010-09-23 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.

 Mine does. Since there was only one batch, all of them should.

On 9/23/2010 3:37 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM, andrew hill  wrote:

hi folks,

i'm in negotiations to pick up a canti-Romulus frameset, and dreaming about the 
eventual build.
one question - looking at picks of the Rom around the interwebs, about half of 
em i see have downtube shifters.

does this mean that a stock (canti) Romulus have bosses for the dt shifters?  
or were these all added aftermarket?


Of the 2 roms I've seen up close and personal both of them had dt
shifter bosses.

I'd suspect they all do.

-sv



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[RBW] Salt Lake City Bicycle Commuter Hub

2010-09-23 Thread Darin G.
I know this isn't Riv specific but a cool story about the new bike
commuter hub in downtown Salt Lake City.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50342926-76/bike-center-canyon-says.html.csp

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Re: [RBW] Salt Lake City Bicycle Commuter Hub

2010-09-23 Thread James Warren

Brisbane, Australia has an impressive one of these also.


-Original Message-
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>Sent: Sep 23, 2010 4:37 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Salt Lake City Bicycle Commuter Hub
>
>I know this isn't Riv specific but a cool story about the new bike
>commuter hub in downtown Salt Lake City.
>
>http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50342926-76/bike-center-canyon-says.html.csp
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[RBW] Rambouillet Fender clearance

2010-09-23 Thread Bruce
As an update, the RBW literature on the bike says, "38c tires or 35c with 
fenders thanks to the "standard" reach brake spec..."



  

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[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread hobie
A Homer Hilsen sounds like it could be for you. I don't know your size
but 100 mile rides are long and being comfortable is a must for me. I
owned a Ram and liked it, but for longer rides I prefer my 58cm Saluki
650b.The Hilsen overlaps in wheel size at about the 57-58cm mark.The
Hilsen or Saluki has the option to fit fatter tires w. fenders
compared to the Rodeo.

On Sep 7, 5:28 pm, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> I love my Bleriot and would like another Rivendell so I am in the
> process of saving up right now but would like to know which one I
> should aim for.  My Bleriot covers my "all around" bike for trails and
> general riding.  I don't do alot of touring and don't really plan to
> so I don't need anything heavy duty but if I did I have a Bridgestone
> MB-2.  Next year I plan on doing more century and half century rides
> and possibly some club rides so what I would like is something that
> can go pretty fast but is comfortable for long rides. I was thinking
> of going for a Rodeo but am unsure how the geometry would work on long
> rides.  My other choices would be a Hillborne set up with some light
> weight components (I do like orange bikes) or possibly finding a used
> Ramboillet in my size.
>
> Thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet Fender clearance

2010-09-23 Thread Rene Valbuena

please give me the link to the rbw literature. i have a 50cm rambouillet and i want to know the maximum tires i can use if i have to install fenders.
-Original Message- From: Bruce Sent: Sep 23, 2010 5:01 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Rambouillet Fender clearance 


As an update, the RBW literature on the bike says, "38c tires or 35c with fenders thanks to the "standard" reach brake spec..."
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[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell

2010-09-23 Thread Patrick in VT


On Sep 7, 5:28 pm, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> Next year I plan on doing more century and half century rides
> and possibly some club rides so what I would like is something that
> can go pretty fast but is comfortable for long rides.

the "fast" part is up to you - you can't purchase that.  any rivendell
you choose is going to be comfortable, and I wouldn't sweat the minor
differences in geometry, etc. - if you're comfortable with the riv
fit, you should be able to dial-in whatever bike you get.

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Fender clearance

2010-09-23 Thread Johnny Alien
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/

That page has tons of information.  There is not much info on the
smaller sizes though.  Those used 26" wheels I believe and I don't see
any widths mentioned for anything other than the 700C.

On Sep 23, 9:20 pm, Rene Valbuena  wrote:
> please give me the link to the rbw literature. i have a 50cm rambouillet and 
> i want to know the maximum tires i can use if i have to install 
> fenders.-Original Message-
> From: Bruce
> Sent: Sep 23, 2010 5:01 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Rambouillet Fender clearanceAs an update, the RBW literature 
> on the bike says, "38c tires or 35c with fenders thanks to the "standard" 
> reach brake spec..."
>
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[RBW] Anyone hear ever use a camping hammock?

2010-09-23 Thread Jeffrey
Has anyone here aver used a camping hammock for touring or camping?
I've been considering a Clark Jungle Hammock or the Hennessy Hammock
and would like to hear about actual experience with them.

Jeff

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet Fender clearance

2010-09-23 Thread CycloFiend
on 9/23/10 6:20 PM, Rene Valbuena at valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> please give me the link to the rbw literature. i have a 50cm rambouillet and i
> want to know the maximum tires i can use if i have to install fenders.

http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer

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Re: [RBW] Anyone hear ever use a camping hammock?

2010-09-23 Thread CycloFiend
on 9/23/10 7:15 PM, Jeffrey at unclecowb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Has anyone here aver used a camping hammock for touring or camping?
> I've been considering a Clark Jungle Hammock or the Hennessy Hammock
> and would like to hear about actual experience with them.

I believe that Kent Peterson has written about hammocks, as well as others
who have written on the iBob list.  I'd check the iBob archives and search
on Kent's blog as well.

http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Re: Anyone hear ever use a camping hammock?

2010-09-23 Thread Philip Williamson
I first heard about Hennessey Hammocks right here on the RBW list, and
I plan to get one. The down side is that hammocks for people over 6'1"
and 200# are significantly more expensive.

I have yet to S24O (by bike), and that seems like the most
straightforward setup here in Oregon, where we have an abundance of
damp ground and skinny trees.

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Sep 23, 9:22 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 9/23/10 7:15 PM, Jeffrey at unclecowb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Has anyone here aver used a camping hammock for touring or camping?
> > I've been considering a Clark Jungle Hammock or the Hennessy Hammock
> > and would like to hear about actual experience with them.
>
> I believe that Kent Peterson has written about hammocks, as well as others
> who have written on the iBob list.  I'd check the iBob archives and search
> on Kent's blog as well.
>
> http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/
>
> - J
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet Fender clearance

2010-09-23 Thread Rene Valbuena
thank you.


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>on 9/23/10 6:20 PM, Rene Valbuena at valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>> please give me the link to the rbw literature. i have a 50cm rambouillet and 
>> i
>> want to know the maximum tires i can use if i have to install fenders.
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>http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer
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