Re: [RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question
Thanks Philip. I'm considering this 5-speed hub for the QB: http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/4/id/34/specs/1 If I'm reading it right, if I set this up with a 22 tooth cog in back, the lowest gear will act like that divided by .625, in other words, the lowest gear in back will act like a 35 tooth cog. Combine that with my functioning front derailleur and triple crank up front (24-36-48) and consider the gear range... ...is all of this too good to be true? -Jim W. -Original Message- >From: Philip Williamson >Sent: Sep 21, 2010 11:54 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question > >The Sturmey S3X is supposed to accept threaded freewheels as well as >splined cogs. They come in 120mm spacing, and some sexy colors (not >green). >The "Quickbeam Supertype" setup would be an S3X and a Schlumpf, of >course... > > Philip Williamson >www.biketinker.com > >On Sep 20, 10:39 pm, CycloFiend wrote: >> on 9/20/10 9:45 PM, James Warren at jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: >> >> >> >> > I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the >> > following idea in mind. In the following pictures: >> >> >http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg >> >> > the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There >> > is no >> > cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of slack >> > so >> > that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front >> > derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so the >> > bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a >> > pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.) >> > What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through >> > use >> > of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal >> > shifter >> > in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the >> > front, >> > for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an >> > internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still have >> > it >> > work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it >> > takes >> > up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front? >> >> > I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of >> > derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any >> > pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble. >> >> You've already done most of the heavy lifting on that system. >> >> Since you are sticking with a coastable setup, there shouldn't really be >> that much of an issue. You really just have the same setup, with differing >> ratios which don't change any chain tension or angle. >> >> There is the spacing issue - 120 mm, which may nix the Shimano 3 speed (and >> I think those were coaster brake models, but I'm not sure). But, S-A stuff >> can be found that way, to be sure. There's probably no reason you couldn't >> run a 7 or 8 speed hub, if it was spaced correctly. >> >> It would be problematic to run the derailleur with a fixed hub like the S-A >> S3X. Derailleurs/tensioning devices and fixed setups are generally thought >> to be Bad Ideas. AASHTA >> -http://www.sheldonbrown.com/singlespeed.html#tension >> >> You're really just using the arm of the rear derailleur for tension. And >> for the range you are running, I don't think you could drop back to a Paul >> Melvin. But, if you widen your gearing aft, maybe you could run narrower up >> front... >> >> (For those looking to mount a derailleur on a tab-less fork end, you just >> need to find one of these - http://tinyurl.com/derhanger) >> >> It seems like you are really most of the way there, right now. >> >> - Jim >> >> -- >> Jim Edgar >> cyclofi...@earthlink.net >> >> Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com >> Current Classics - Cross Bikes >> Singlespeed - Working Bikes >> >> Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com >> >> "Maybe a bike, once discarded, pines away year after year for the first hand >> that steered it, and as it grows old it dreams, in its bike way, of the >> young roads." >> >> -- Robert McCammon, "Boy's Life" > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto wire guard
Thanks Angus On Sep 21, 10:18 pm, Angus wrote: > No, but Rivendell was able to special order me one...only took a few > days. > > Angus > > On Sep 21, 3:46 pm, hobie wrote: > > > > > Does anyone have a rear Nitto wire guard that they are not using and > > want to sell? Thanx Ride On.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Mini or Marks Rack ?
Agreed, William said it perfectly! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question
Jim: In the past 2 years I've built up a few sets of Sturmey Archer 8 speed drum hub wheels... I really like these hubs, and so far the quality of these hubs has been excellent, so good luck with yours. I plan to do something similar as what you're doing, so I'd love to hear your experience with this setup. One other challenge I've had with this (and other internal geared hubs) is the shifter... often you're stuck using whatever shifter the manufacturer provides, which can seriously limit your bar (and hand- placement) options. Companies like J-Tek have introduced 8-speed bar end shifters (kudos), which pull the right amount of cable to be compatible with the Alfine and SA 8-speed hubs. Measuring the amount of cable pull (if not already avail from the mfr) should be fairly simple to measure, and with enough training (and mashed internals through trial and error) I suppose a person could train oneself to friction-shift an internal geared hub. So here's a shout out to all would-be inventors and machinists out there (or Google search experts, in case I'm simply behind the times). The world needs an inline universal cable-travel gadget (similar to the Problem Solvers Travel Agent) that can be set to pull a variable amount of cable, depending on number of gears, manufacturer, etc. This should enable you to use whatever shifter you like with whatever drivetrain, internal or external, Campy, Shimano, SRAM, SA, you name it. Oh, and while we're inventing these things, why not invent an inline cable lever (not a barrel adjustor) that easily and quickly allows for derailleur trimming for index shifters (especially front derailleurs)? To all who provide solutions to these nagging problems, I wish you a life of great fortune and happiness thank you. BB On Sep 22, 3:19 am, James Warren wrote: > Thanks Philip. > > I'm considering this 5-speed hub for the QB: > > http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/4/id/34/specs/1 > > If I'm reading it right, if I set this up with a 22 tooth cog in back, the > lowest gear will act like that divided by .625, in other words, the lowest > gear in back will act like a 35 tooth cog. > > Combine that with my functioning front derailleur and triple crank up front > (24-36-48) and consider the gear range... > > ...is all of this too good to be true? > > -Jim W. > > > > -Original Message- > >From: Philip Williamson > >Sent: Sep 21, 2010 11:54 PM > >To: RBW Owners Bunch > >Subject: [RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question > > >The Sturmey S3X is supposed to accept threaded freewheels as well as > >splined cogs. They come in 120mm spacing, and some sexy colors (not > >green). > >The "Quickbeam Supertype" setup would be an S3X and a Schlumpf, of > >course... > > > Philip Williamson > >www.biketinker.com > > >On Sep 20, 10:39 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > >> on 9/20/10 9:45 PM, James Warren at jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: > > >> > I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the > >> > following idea in mind. In the following pictures: > > >> >http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg > > >> > the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There > >> > is no > >> > cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of > >> > slack so > >> > that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front > >> > derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so > >> > the > >> > bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a > >> > pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.) > >> > What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back > >> > through use > >> > of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal > >> > shifter > >> > in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the > >> > front, > >> > for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an > >> > internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still > >> > have it > >> > work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it > >> > takes > >> > up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front? > > >> > I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of > >> > derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any > >> > pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble. > > >> You've already done most of the heavy lifting on that system. > > >> Since you are sticking with a coastable setup, there shouldn't really be > >> that much of an issue. You really just have the same setup, with differing > >> ratios which don't change any chain tension or angle. > > >> There is the spacing issue - 120 mm, which may nix the Shimano 3 speed (and > >> I think those were coaster brake models, but I'm not sure). But, S-A stuff > >> can be found that way, to be sure. There's probably no reason you couldn'
[RBW] Re: FS Sam Hillborne 56cm Frame and Fork.
After getting a few emails asking for just the frame and fork, Bb, headset and seatpost, I will sell those for $875. On Sep 21, 5:51 pm, Andrew wrote: > Selling my 56cm green Sam Hillborne frame. Was going to build it for > my girlfriend but the standover does not work for her. I bought this > Frame and fork recently from renaissance bikes and never actually > built it up, just put it on two wheels to test the fit and it was too > big. The frame was originally built up by Renaissance Bikes as a > complete bike but never sold. It had a kinda nonstandard riv build so > I bought just the frame and fork (including seatpost, headset, bottom > bracket) , nitto canti mounted front rack, shimano r-550 cantilever > brakes, pletscher adjustable kickstand, velo orange retro cage. I > would be willing to sell the frame and fork and all the parts listed > for $950. It looks new, I'm not sure if it was ridden at all when it > was first built. You cant get the green frames anymore, nor single > toptube hillbornes with canti mounts. The retail on all the parts and > the frame and fork is over $1200. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Mini or Marks Rack ?
"... always buy the Mini when you can." Right now there doesn't seem to be a single one available in the USA. Lots of Googling, going down blind alleys, under rocks, behind bushes, yielded nothing. Does anyone here have a used one available (if so, contact me off list), or know of a vendor with some in stock? BTW, an M12 which I have will not work with Paul cantis. On Sep 21, 7:40 pm, William wrote: > The Mark's rack is definitely more versatile and adjustable. If you > want to buy a rack now for I-don't-know-what-application later, the > Mark's will work more different ways. > > The Mini is definitely stronger. It's all tubular cro-mo, where the > Mark's has Alum struts. Every loaded joint is welded, where the > Mark's is full of bolt-tightened pivots. For light loads both are > fine. Whatever load sags the Mark's I'd bet you big dollars that the > Mini will handle. > > Both will take a Platrack which is a FABULOUS feature (maybe the best > feature) for both. > > In my opinion, always buy the Mini when you can. Be happy with the > Mark's when you can't use the Mini. > > My canti-Hillborne and Bombadil both run the Mini up front. The > Bleriot/Renovelo will run a Mark's. > > On Sep 21, 9:35 am, storm wrote: > > > > > Hello, Is there any downside to Marks Rack? I have two bikes. Once has > > a Nitto Mini and the other needs a front rack. I was thinking Marks > > rack since it can be used on the current bike I have with cantilevers. > > However I have always had a vintage bike on my mind in which the Nitto > > mini would not work with. Should I buy the Mark with the future on my > > mind? > > > Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] quick Platrack report
Bill, Now that it's been a year with your Platrack and Slicker Sack, do you have any longitudinal experiences to report? (I'm planning to reconfigure one of my bikes for more front loads.) Thanks, David Sprunger Fargo, ND On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Bill Rhea wrote: > > I just received one of the new Platracks the other day, and have it > hooked up on my 64cm QB. > > My intention was to use it specifically for touring, but am intrigued > by the new Slicker sack. So I've checked to see what it feels like to > have my normal commute load (laptop, clothes, lunch) on the front > rather than the back to see how it rides before throwing down the > money. > > Installation was a breeze, though I have a front B&M generator > headlight for which I fabricated a new bracket so that it would not > sit higher than the rack (and get in the way of big loads). > > It turns out that my Baggins "Adam" bag fits on the Platrack quite > securely - you can loop the seatpost strap over the hoop, run the main > compartment straps over the front of the rack, and even tuck the side > compartment buckles under the sides. That setup does not sway one > tiny bit, but it's not as quick to take on and off. The NS Lil' > Loafer goes on the rear Nitto bag support. > > Riding with the weight up front feels different, but not in a bad > way. However, I've really gotten used to the convenience of the Lil > Loafer up front - so easy to get at while pedaling. I like how quick > and easy the Slicker appears to go on and off, and the handle is a > plus, but my setup pre-Flatrack has worked great for years w/o > complaints. I guess I'm just a sucker for nice bicycle luggage :-) > > Anybody have any thoughts they'd want to share about carrying weight > up front vs. on the rear? Any other Platrack feedback? > > -br > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] You read it here first
"fop chariot" -- so BSNYC describes Rivendell bicycles. Am proud owner of two. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: quick Platrack report
Hey Bill, thanks for the review and photos. On my QB I'm just using the Nitto mini-rack with a small Wald basket and the Sackville ShopSack. It's great. I've been using it for work daily. I did purchase a Nitto Platrack for my Hilsen which I used on 3 day bike camping trip last week and was pretty impressed with it. While I had problems with the bike getting wobbly at low speeds and no hands it was solid at high speeds. And I did get used to it pretty quickly. I actually think I could have loaded a bit more up front. On the first day of the trip I just had my tent on it, for the second day I added an extra pair of shoes I was taking. I think next year for S24Os the Platrack and my Sackville Saddlesack will be able to accommodate everything I need. For longer trips and more gear I think I'd just be happier with a touring bike. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
Deets here- http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/287 Hope to see you for either/or/both. John at RBW HQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
Funny comment... but BS is forgetting 2 things: 1. That it's generally considered bad form to be critical of a sponsor, literally inches away from a sponsor's ad... smooth... 2. Without the beautiful "gratuitous lugs", my Riv would likely become a "flop chariot" Perhaps too much car exhaust, I'm afraid... On Sep 22, 12:45 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > "fop chariot" -- so BSNYC describes Rivendell bicycles. Am proud owner of two. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] quick Platrack report
I've been using a Platrack/SlickerSack combo since March of this year and I almost love it. There's only one teeny problem and it's with the SlickerSack not the rack. I'd really like to see slight longer straps for holding the bag to the rack and the use of double snaps. Instead of straps with just one snap like this: ---\ 0| ---/ I'd like two: \ 0 0 | / I think a little extra length and the two snaps would help things be a wee bit more secure. The reason is that any shifting of contents seems to unsnap at least one of the straps, sometimes all of them. Then my SS is only held on by the loop of leather on the bag's back around the "up loop" of my mini-front rack. My solution is to use a basket net to make sure I'm holding everything in place. That's actually pretty useful anyway as I can then stick stuff under the net but on top of the SS which I end up doing all the time. It's not a deal breaker and may have to do with the fact that I routinely carry way too much stuff. Earlier this year I was camping out in order to participate in a metric century on the other side of the island (Oahu), so I ended riding the m.century with the bag stuffed with the stuff I didn't want taken from my campsite (camera and a few other things). More than one person asked why I was riding a long distance with "so much stuff." To be honest, I really didn't notice it...I commute like that daily. I should mention that in the time I've used this combo I've never had the SS fly off or anything like that, but it does start sliding around a little once the straps start coming loose. Aloha! On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:15 AM, David Sprunger wrote: > Bill, > Now that it's been a year with your Platrack and Slicker Sack, do you > have any longitudinal experiences to report? (I'm planning to > reconfigure one of my bikes for more front loads.) > Thanks, > David Sprunger > Fargo, ND > > -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
Well I guess I did learn something today. The word fop means “term for a foolish man over-concerned with his appearance and clothes” In the context that the BS uses it seems inappropriate since the Riv way is to wear everyday clothes for cycling and not some lycra based billboard. or perhaps he is referring to the bicycle itself. I would think he would have added a suffix to address it as a "foppish" chariot. I still cannot believe people read his blog which makes fun of other people for sport. Thinking about it, his columns do have sort of a "Foppish” perspective. ~Mike~ On Sep 22, 11:25 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Funny comment... but BS is forgetting 2 things: > > 1. That it's generally considered bad form to be critical of a > sponsor, literally inches away from a sponsor's ad... smooth... > 2. Without the beautiful "gratuitous lugs", my Riv would likely become > a "flop chariot" > > Perhaps too much car exhaust, I'm afraid... > > On Sep 22, 12:45 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > "fop chariot" -- so BSNYC describes Rivendell bicycles. Am proud owner of > > two. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
Bikesnob loves to ridicule his sponsors. He's never more cruel to Rapha than when he has an event scheduled at their store. It's all good fun. On Sep 22, 10:25 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Funny comment... but BS is forgetting 2 things: > > 1. That it's generally considered bad form to be critical of a > sponsor, literally inches away from a sponsor's ad... smooth... > 2. Without the beautiful "gratuitous lugs", my Riv would likely become > a "flop chariot" > > Perhaps too much car exhaust, I'm afraid... > > On Sep 22, 12:45 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > "fop chariot" -- so BSNYC describes Rivendell bicycles. Am proud owner of > > two. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Michael_S wrote: . I > still cannot believe people read his blog which makes fun of other > people for sport. That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way and in his own sphere. Patrick "too much niceness is corrosive of character" Moore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
and people on this site, do sometimes take which normal clothes to wear while riding a bike pretty far. the normal clothes talk does take on a techish vibe at times. Voltaire made fun of everyone all the time too. it has a pretty rich history. being overly sensitive may make one seem more foppish. just some thoughts. jamison brosseau On Sep 22, 2:52 pm, Ian Dickson wrote: > Bikesnob loves to ridicule his sponsors. He's never more cruel to > Rapha than when he has an event scheduled at their store. It's all > good fun. > > On Sep 22, 10:25 am, Montclair BobbyB > wrote: > > > Funny comment... but BS is forgetting 2 things: > > > 1. That it's generally considered bad form to be critical of a > > sponsor, literally inches away from a sponsor's ad... smooth... > > 2. Without the beautiful "gratuitous lugs", my Riv would likely become > > a "flop chariot" > > > Perhaps too much car exhaust, I'm afraid... > > > On Sep 22, 12:45 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > "fop chariot" -- so BSNYC describes Rivendell bicycles. Am proud owner of > > > two. > > > > -- > > > Patrick Moore > > > Albuquerque, NM > > > For professional resumes, contact > > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Mini or Marks Rack ?
Storm, Marks' rack will suit you fine. I also have a frame that won't allow a Mini rack due to a threaded fork crown. I could go drillin' but I don't think so! Mark's rack will fit any bike, and that's a big plus for many. As far as the weight load . I don't know . how much are you going to be putting on it ? The Platrack is a nice add- on if want a hauler, but for the price and weight there's lots of other brands of basket/platform type racks out there to choose from if you need a hauler. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
I wish I was in CA for the weekend or the week . month . year or maybe just visit and stay . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
> That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > and in his own sphere. The first year or so his blog was amusing. I stopped reading it as it became very repetitive. To me, BSNYC is the Jack Bauer of bloggers. Intriguing the first day. Every day thereafter more of the same. On Sep 22, 2:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Michael_S wrote: > > . I > > > still cannot believe people read his blog which makes fun of other > > people for sport. > > That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > and in his own sphere. > > Patrick "too much niceness is corrosive of character" Moore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to act as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list. You read it here. On Sep 22, 2:53 pm, Garth wrote: > I wish I was in CA for the weekend or the week . month . > year or maybe just visit and stay . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to act > as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list. You > read it here. > Note to Grant or John <--- you can get Joel to pay you to let him buy a bike :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
IMO, once every week or two keeps it fresh. I mean, "fop chariot" is funny. Heaping scorn on those who ride a $5-10k crabon road bike while not knowing how to fix a flat is funny. And yes, the whole country is being taken over by "Generally Not Knowing How To Do Stuff" and that needs being said. The irony is that GNKHTDS is something Grant has generally stood athwart of and yelled stop. And which just goes to show the "fob chariot" really was all in good fun. Best, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
> I mean, "fop chariot" is funny. Yeah. But I recall him saying as much, albeit worded differently 3 years ago. > Heaping scorn on those who ride a $5-10k crabon road bike while not knowing > how to fix a flat is funny. Again, a point worth making. But making again and again and again? On Sep 22, 3:32 pm, Allan in Portland wrote: > IMO, once every week or two keeps it fresh. I mean, "fop chariot" is > funny. Heaping scorn on those who ride a $5-10k crabon road bike while > not knowing how to fix a flat is funny. And yes, the whole country is > being taken over by "Generally Not Knowing How To Do Stuff" and that > needs being said. The irony is that GNKHTDS is something Grant has > generally stood athwart of and yelled stop. And which just goes to > show the "fob chariot" really was all in good fun. > > Best, > -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
But only if they give me a discount off list! On Sep 22, 3:24 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to act > > as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list. You > > read it here. > > Note to Grant or John <--- you can get Joel to pay you to > let him buy a bike :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm Sam Hillborne
Im glad I'm not the only one @ HMS prowling this list! I enjoy looking at both Steve's Surly, Tom's Kogswell/Sam, and making the cage an all around pleasant place to park. On Sep 21, 11:50 am, tomm wrote: > I know your bike too! > > Haven't seen your Ram in there ever though. Thad sometimes rides a > green Quickbeam in and parks in that cage as well. Good Riv > representation at HMS! > > On Sep 21, 11:36 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > > > > > I know this bike! > > > I have been admiring it in the bike cage behind Vanderbilt Hall at HMS. > > Very nice. I would definitely be interested if I didn't already have a > > 60cm Rambouillet. > > > Steve "the owner of the grey Surly Cross Check with the Nexus rear hub who > > also parks in the Vandy bike cage" Wimberg > > > On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:42 AM, tomm wrote: > > > > For sale is my Sam Hillborne 60 cm, double top-tubed, Waterford > > > version. > > > > The frame is a beauty but unfortunately is just too big for me. I've > > > tried everything to achieve the riding position, posture, etc I want > > > and it just doesn't work. > > > > Less than 500 miles on it. > > > > Frame, fork, Cane Creek headset - $800. > > > If you want the front (Nitto mini) or rear (Tubus Cosmo) as well - > > > $1,000 > > > The complete bike (everything) - $2,200 > > > > The frame doesn't have a blemish on it, with the exception of the > > > dropouts and I assume maybe the hourglass eyelets since racks were > > > mounted. One note, there is a university bicycle registration sticker > > > on the bottom of the seat tube. They're pretty sticky stickers so I'm > > > not sure how easily it would come off. > > > > The components and everything are pretty self-explanatory from the > > > pictures but feel free to ask any questions if you can't make anything > > > out in particular. > > > >http://gallery.me.com/mullenjr#18 > > > > Thanks, > > > Tom > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first
Don't forget Wodehouse now, Jeeves... From: PATRICK MOORE He carries on the tradition of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way and in his own sphere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: quick Platrack report
I do a bit of both. For commuting purposes on Bleriot, most of the weight is the laptop and files up front, clothes and stuff are behind the seat: http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/4637721608/ That Nitto rack on the back has been swapped for a mini, and is now at home on the Atlantis; on farmer's market days, I'll use two ortleib panniers on the back of the Atlantis to cart purchases home, and feeding six, the weight adds up. Obviously, steering is different between the Bleriot front load and Atlantis rear load, but you just get used to it. The main difference for me is that out of the saddle, I notice a heavy rear load sways more on the way home from the market than I do the files in front on the way to and from work. Again, no big deal, but it's there. Rick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
I had a similar problem with the silver brakes on my AHH when new. I was using Ultegra levers and they definitely felt mushy. After some months and putting in a lot of miles on the bike, I noticed that the problem had completely disappeared. The bike would stop on a dime with very little flexy feeling. I believe the problem was the factory coating on the also new rims (Velocity Synergy). I don't think the rims are anodized, but the surface definitely looks different now than it did when new. Once the coating wore off, everything changed. At some point I changed from the Ultegra levers to some Campy ones and experienced another significant improvement. I'm sure not all levers have the same leverage and cable pull. Dylan On Sep 15, 12:53 pm, Garth wrote: > FWIW I've found it's not necessary to have a perfectly square > cable end. I've driven myself nuts trying to do it, but then realized > as long as the cut is clean, the angle doesn't have to be perfectly > square. This is based on my many trials and errors. The most useful > tool I have is one I'm not sure the name of it is. It's essentially a > pick that I use to inset into cable ends after cutting and filing, to > ensure it's fully open. As filing is great and all, but it can > compress the metal inside the cable, where it's unreachable, hence > using the pick I wedge it in there and gently ream it in back to > proper size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first
I don't agree with this observation. The contributions on this list over the years have provided some of the most practical sets of information and advice I have ever seen on the topic of the best way for my bike to take me as far as I want it to take me. -Original Message- > >and people on this site, do sometimes take which normal clothes to >wear while riding a bike pretty far. the normal clothes talk does >take on a techish vibe at times. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rick's Atlantis (was quick Platrack report)
Rick, Your Atlantis is the bomb! (Not literally, and not Bombadiliterally either.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/4689767208/in/photostream/ Makes me want to take off on a bike for a couple years. -Original Message- >From: Rick >Sent: Sep 22, 2010 2:04 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: quick Platrack report > >I do a bit of both. For commuting purposes on Bleriot, most of the >weight is the laptop and files up front, clothes and stuff are behind >the seat: > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/4637721608/ > >That Nitto rack on the back has been swapped for a mini, and is now at >home on the Atlantis; on farmer's market days, I'll use two ortleib >panniers on the back of the Atlantis to cart purchases home, and >feeding six, the weight adds up. Obviously, steering is different >between the Bleriot front load and Atlantis rear load, but you just >get used to it. > >The main difference for me is that out of the saddle, I notice a heavy >rear load sways more on the way home from the market than I do the >files in front on the way to and from work. Again, no big deal, but >it's there. > >Rick. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rick's Atlantis (was quick Platrack report)
But it's cross-chaining! Bike Snob would DISAPPROVE!! I kid I kid. On Sep 22, 4:37 pm, James Warren wrote: > Rick, > Your Atlantis is the bomb! (Not literally, and not Bombadiliterally either.) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/4689767208/in/photostream/ > > Makes me want to take off on a bike for a couple years. > > -Original Message- > >From: Rick > >Sent: Sep 22, 2010 2:04 PM > >To: RBW Owners Bunch > >Subject: [RBW] Re: quick Platrack report > > >I do a bit of both. For commuting purposes on Bleriot, most of the > >weight is the laptop and files up front, clothes and stuff are behind > >the seat: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/4637721608/ > > >That Nitto rack on the back has been swapped for a mini, and is now at > >home on the Atlantis; on farmer's market days, I'll use two ortleib > >panniers on the back of the Atlantis to cart purchases home, and > >feeding six, the weight adds up. Obviously, steering is different > >between the Bleriot front load and Atlantis rear load, but you just > >get used to it. > > >The main difference for me is that out of the saddle, I notice a heavy > >rear load sways more on the way home from the market than I do the > >files in front on the way to and from work. Again, no big deal, but > >it's there. > > >Rick. > > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >"RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >For more options, visit this group > >athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
Bumping an older thread. Say that I found a really nice condition used Rambo in my size. Say it's a great price and from a very nice dealer. Is it worth the extra cash and time to go with the Roadeo. Is it really a ton lighter and will that matter. The Rambouillet would be run with light components (DT shifters, compact double crank, etc.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
Johnny: There was a thread here about a year ago entitled "is the Ram the perfect Riv?" or something similar. It was long and quite detailed and worth digging up. I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, performance, etc. But to your question about the Roadeo being significantly lighter than a Ram, if you were a true weight weenie, you wouldn't be looking at either. dougP On Sep 22, 5:02 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > Bumping an older thread. > > Say that I found a really nice condition used Rambo in my size. Say > it's a great price and from a very nice dealer. > > Is it worth the extra cash and time to go with the Roadeo. Is it > really a ton lighter and will that matter. > > The Rambouillet would be run with light components (DT shifters, > compact double crank, etc.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
> I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, > performance, etc. But to your question about the Roadeo being > significantly lighter than a Ram, if you were a true weight weenie, > you wouldn't be looking at either. Yeah I am not a weight weenie really just want something on the light end for the road rides. I would have gotten a more classic build on the Roadeo so that would take it up past 20lbs anyway. my guess is that a ram built up similar would only be marginally heavier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
The dimensions of the two bikes are nearly identical, and I believe the larger sizes (>56) use the same diameter tubing (8-5-8). There might be a small bit of extra clearance for fenders on the Roadeo, but I believe that's about it. So you're talking ounces at most. Grab the Ram, an established classic, and put your savings into light wheels, ti saddle, etc and don't look back! On Sep 22, 5:17 pm, doug peterson wrote: > Johnny: > > There was a thread here about a year ago entitled "is the Ram the > perfect Riv?" or something similar. It was long and quite detailed > and worth digging up. > > I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, > performance, etc. But to your question about the Roadeo being > significantly lighter than a Ram, if you were a true weight weenie, > you wouldn't be looking at either. > > dougP > > On Sep 22, 5:02 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > > Bumping an older thread. > > > Say that I found a really nice condition used Rambo in my size. Say > > it's a great price and from a very nice dealer. > > > Is it worth the extra cash and time to go with the Roadeo. Is it > > really a ton lighter and will that matter. > > > The Rambouillet would be run with light components (DT shifters, > > compact double crank, etc.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
Strange, His blog usually reminds me more of Dorothy Parker. Cruel. Funny sometimes, but still cruel. On the other hand, did find the book quite humorous. And in a more gentle, Wodehouse way. And, yes, I do have thin skin. Eric Platt (who does realize this thread has nothing at all to do with Rivendell. But contributed anyway.) On Sep 22, 4:01 pm, Bruce wrote: > Don't forget Wodehouse now, Jeeves... > > > From: PATRICK MOORE > > He carries on the tradition > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > and in his own sphere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
He has to make fun of everything he mentions to avoid the appearance of favoritism. But you can still tell he appreciates well designed bikes that serve a purpose by hiding complements in his remarks. I think he once said that Rivendell bikes are favored by male cyclists in their fifties. He followed that by saying that male cyclists in their fifties who don't know about Rivendell, should. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
"1. That it's generally considered bad form to be critical of a sponsor, literally inches away from a sponsor's ad... smooth... " As someone who does the same - it is not frowned upon. It is a sign that you are not a shill for said company. If you find the comment offensive - consider yourself square in the 'fop' category! I love the random comments and shots at Riv. Means they're still relevant in today's increasingly saturated bike market. AND if you think Riv doesn't focus on riding specific clothes, then you should go take a look at their clothing section again. Most folks don't dress in MUSA pants wool tops everyday. More practical clothes than spandex? Yes. Totally 'normal, everyday' clothes? No. Justin On Sep 22, 8:34 pm, EricP wrote: > Strange, > > His blog usually reminds me more of Dorothy Parker. Cruel. Funny > sometimes, but still cruel. On the other hand, did find the book > quite humorous. And in a more gentle, Wodehouse way. > > And, yes, I do have thin skin. > > Eric Platt > (who does realize this thread has nothing at all to do with > Rivendell. But contributed anyway.) > > On Sep 22, 4:01 pm, Bruce wrote: > > > > > Don't forget Wodehouse now, Jeeves... > > > > > From: PATRICK MOORE > > > He carries on the tradition > > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > > and in his own sphere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
> As someone who does the same - it is not frowned upon. It is a sign > that you are not a shill for said company. So that makes it legit... > If you find the comment offensive - consider yourself square in the > 'fop' category! Right again... Peace, Bobby "52-year-old-fop-who-still-believes-in-nice" Birmingham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
You're right about the weight, at least from my experience. Both bikes are light enough and great. But I say go with the Roadeo, because: 1) It will be a bit newer. 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that. 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your pref). 4) More choices of color 5) Slightly shorter chainstay (if I remember your intended uses correctly) The Rambouillet has the better name however, by a longshot. I am a huge Rambouillet fan, by the way, and I've had mine since 2003. This is a really high class problem. Enjoy! -Jim W. -Original Message- >From: Johnny Alien >Sent: Sep 22, 2010 5:26 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > >> I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, >> performance, etc. But to your question about the Roadeo being >> significantly lighter than a Ram, if you were a true weight weenie, >> you wouldn't be looking at either. > >Yeah I am not a weight weenie really just want something on the light >end for the road rides. I would have gotten a more classic build on >the Roadeo so that would take it up past 20lbs anyway. my guess is >that a ram built up similar would only be marginally heavier. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
A Ram with a double and a lighter wheel/tire set, and lightweight saddle can be had at about 21 lbs. I actually went back up a couple for comfort. Mine now is 23.5 lbs with Selle Anatomica saddle, and stock wheels and 32 mm Panaracer Pasela TGs. Br ends, 2 cages, and MKS pedals included. From: Johnny Alien To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 7:02:34 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell Bumping an older thread. Say that I found a really nice condition used Rambo in my size. Say it's a great price and from a very nice dealer. Is it worth the extra cash and time to go with the Roadeo. Is it really a ton lighter and will that matter. The Rambouillet would be run with light components (DT shifters, compact double crank, etc.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
> 1) It will be a bit newer. > 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that. > 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your > pref). > 4) More choices of color > 5) Slightly shorter chainstay (if I remember your intended uses correctly) Some good points. 1. Can't argue that (although this one is pretty great condition) 2. I don't want to run fenders on that bike because it won't need them. I can get Jack Brown's on without fenders. 3. I would go threaded even with the Roadeo because I prefer it. 4. This is my only drawback. Love the blue but I was going to get an orange Roadeo 5. I will need to think about that one. I just am not sure the color is worth and extra $1800. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
Well, lets not get carried away. The guy does have his moments. Sometimes his comments on fixed-gear culture are dead-on. But his main thing is adolescent or, perhaps, pre-adolescent, locker room humor (an obsession with bodily secretions, masturbation, etc.). And, of course, he has a problem with women. Huxley? Theroux? I don't think so. GeorgeS On Sep 22, 3:19 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition > > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > > and in his own sphere. > > The first year or so his blog was amusing. I stopped reading it as it > became very repetitive. > > To me, BSNYC is the Jack Bauer of bloggers. Intriguing the first > day. Every day thereafter more of the same. > > On Sep 22, 2:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Michael_S > > wrote: > > > . I > > > > still cannot believe people read his blog which makes fun of other > > > people for sport. > > > That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition > > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > > and in his own sphere. > > > Patrick "too much niceness is corrosive of character" Moore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] simpleone sample
the one on frame specials page of the Riv site.. Why is it still available?... like, what's wrong with it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] simpleone sample
it's a hair too small for me, or i'd be all over it. literally. On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:23 PM, jandrews_nyc wrote: > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site.. > Why is it still available?... > like, what's wrong with it? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
John, The Riv site says cash only on the barrel head. Is that literally cash only or will you take plastic or checks. I'll have cash but not thousands ;) I'll be driving up from San Luis Obispo Friday. Cheers, Mitch On Sep 22, 1:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > But only if they give me a discount off list! > > On Sep 22, 3:24 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to act > > > as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list. You > > > read it here. > > > Note to Grant or John <--- you can get Joel to pay you to > > let him buy a bike :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: simpleone sample
I've seen it up close and nothing's wrong with it. It's a real beaut', and much better looking live than in that photo. I think they haven't pushed it much so maybe not enough people are aware of it. Or maybe there just aren't any single speeders looking for a 56cm frame right now. If you're tempted, go for it. jim m wc ca On Sep 22, 7:23 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site.. > Why is it still available?... > like, what's wrong with it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: simpleone sample
Just found out that my wife tried to pick it up for me for my birthday last week. I got a weekend travel bag instead. She knows my quest for a 58cm Quickbeam well. On Sep 22, 7:29 pm, andrew hill wrote: > it's a hair too small for me, or i'd be all over it. literally. > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:23 PM, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > > > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site.. > > Why is it still available?... > > like, what's wrong with it? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first
Whew, sorry I'm coming in late to the conversation... I just finished my 24 almonds. What did I miss? On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:54 PM, GeorgeS wrote: > Well, lets not get carried away. The guy does have his moments. > Sometimes his comments on fixed-gear culture are dead-on. But his > main thing is adolescent or, perhaps, pre-adolescent, locker room > humor (an obsession with bodily secretions, masturbation, etc.). And, > of course, he has a problem with women. Huxley? Theroux? I don't > think so. > GeorgeS > > > On Sep 22, 3:19 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition > > > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > > > and in his own sphere. > > > > The first year or so his blog was amusing. I stopped reading it as it > > became very repetitive. > > > > To me, BSNYC is the Jack Bauer of bloggers. Intriguing the first > > day. Every day thereafter more of the same. > > > > On Sep 22, 2:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Michael_S > wrote: > > > > > . I > > > > > > still cannot believe people read his blog which makes fun of other > > > > people for sport. > > > > > That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition > > > of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way > > > and in his own sphere. > > > > > Patrick "too much niceness is corrosive of character" Moore > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] simpleone sample
on 9/22/10 7:23 PM, jandrews_nyc at jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site.. > Why is it still available?... > like, what's wrong with it? ...still 2 cm's too small for me. I keep hoping it will get a short growth spurt. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fitting a chariot
Hey folks, First off, anyone in the Portland metro with a 59+/-1cm Riv with the handlebars about the height of the saddle which you would be willing and able to allow me to test ride in the next couple or few days please, *please* respond off-list. Next, the real purpose of this email is I'm considering a used frame & fork. I was going to send the following to Grant for a little expert advice, but by the time I finished writing seemed I was looking for more than a "little." Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel like he's a pretty busy guy that gets inundated with these types of emails. So instead I figured I'd seek the wisdom of the crowd. Hey, it always worked well on "Who wants to be a Millionaire." And Grant if you're reading this, feel free to respond. ;-) Background: I have an ~1987 Miyata 215ST which I bought used but virtually NOS (photo at http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc169-alan1006.html). By English/Riv measure it has a 57cm ST & 56cm TT. It's always felt a little small, but I always wondered if it was something a new stem could fix. It has a fist-full plus maybe a finger of seat post showing. At this point I guess I should mention my PBH is 85 and my height is 176 (5' 9.5"). Three years of ~100 miles/wk commuting has either worn out or subjected to outright damage about every moving part and it's overdue for some love. I was about to start down that route when it occurred to me if this bike is a size too small anyway, I might be better served getting a new bike of proper size. So I've been thinking about that more and more and today along came a 57 side-pull Rom for sale. So, my questions are: 1) I've always thought the Miyata was a good frame, but given the rate at which I blew through the parts... wore out 3 chains (obviously only the first one was stock, but it went the fastest), the bottom bracket, a few cogs, the middle chain ring, and the rims, I wonder if maybe it wasn't as quality a bike as I've imagined? Any knowledge on how good a frame it actually is? Do you think there is going to be a large difference in ride quality between that and a Rom? Or a Sam? 2) I'm a pretty light guy. I've weighed between 125 & 130 for the last 20 years. (I'm 38.) While I agree with you people make too much importance of frame weight, I'm also quite sympathetic to Jan Heine's ideas on frame flex (though I like to call it resonance instead of planing). Being such a small guy, I'm extra inclined to go with smaller tubes and lighter frames. I know you think most people even asking are misguided, but given my small size maybe in my case -- not so much. :-) So, do you recall the tubes the Rom's have? Wall thickness? How would they compare to a Sam? 3) Unlike most folks that complain about moving their saddle as far back as they can, I'm always feeling myself riding forward onto the nose. (Not just this one, ALL my bikes.) Most of the time I have to think about it to keep myself on the back of it. Any idea what this might be indicative of? I've always felt I have a relatively short torso. And thus I've wondered if it means I should be on shorter top tubes & stem than "typical". If true, that might mean I'm actually better served on a 56 with a long seat post and short, but high stem, than a 58 which would give me too long a top tube that can't be solved with a shorter stem. On the other hand, it occurred to me perhaps the too low handlebars are pulling me forward onto the nose of the saddle. I am your prototypical 5'9.5", 85cm PBH rider in the "Bike Fit" articles, and in them you say I should be on a 60. Wow, that sounds large!?! I reckon everybody says that at first? :-) Thanks all for the help. -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
