[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread Angus
Roy,

I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
spring-thingie.

Angus

On Jul 28, 9:25 pm, Roy Yates  wrote:
> I've needed this spring thingy for my All-Rounder which has a big gap
> from the 26 inch wheels/tire to the cross-brace between the chain
> stays. However, I don't think I would want the fender to slide on the
> bolt. In that case, won't the head of the bolt always be close to the
> tire and block the the horizontal motion of the tire during removal.
> My impression is that the example in the picture allows the end of the
> bolt closest to the seat tube to slide when the horizontal motion of
> the wheel pushes the fender.  However, an All-Rounder's cross-brace
> between the chain stays has a threaded hole for a fender bolt but the
> hole dead-ends in the cross-brace. I've wondered if anyone has drilled
> through the cross-brace to allow a fender bolt to slide through? If
> not, is there some other solution?
>
> Thanks,
> ...Roy
>
> On Jul 28, 9:40 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > > Here you go:
>
> > Joe, thanks for the linked photo.  That shows what I was missing in my
> > scheme.  The bolt is thinner than it would be allowing the fender to
> > move back and forth over it.  Brilliant!
>
> > On Jul 28, 5:54 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > > Here you go:
>
> > >http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2009/04/spring-thing.html
>
> > > > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:59 -0700
> > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy
> > > > From: dougpn...@cox.net
> > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > Can you post a photo?  Springs are easy to find at good hardware
> > > > stores & especially industrial supply stores.  There's more to the
> > > > mounting than just using a spring, correct?
>
> > > > dougP
>
> > > > On Jul 28, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > > > > Some creative bike mechanics use a spring device to attach the fender
> > > > > to the chain stay bridge.  Seems like that is ideal for my current
> > > > > project as the bike has Campy 1010 horizontal dropouts.
>
> > > > > I have looked around and do not see where any of the usual suspects
> > > > > sell such a thing.  Are the mechanics cobbling this together?  If so,
> > > > > anyone come across a blog or youtube showing how?
>
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[RBW] 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.

http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/

Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
shifting.

Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
build.

Bryan

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[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread JoelMatthews
> I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
> corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
> even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
> spring-thingie.

Are you just putting the cork between the bike and no fender with not
bolt inside?  If so, how does it stay in place/ If bolted, how do you
get the fender out of the way when removing the fender?  Or does the
All-Rounder have vertical (or even semi-horizontal) drop outs?

On Jul 29, 2:55 am, Angus  wrote:
> Roy,
>
> I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
> corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
> even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
> spring-thingie.
>
> Angus
>
> On Jul 28, 9:25 pm, Roy Yates  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've needed this spring thingy for my All-Rounder which has a big gap
> > from the 26 inch wheels/tire to the cross-brace between the chain
> > stays. However, I don't think I would want the fender to slide on the
> > bolt. In that case, won't the head of the bolt always be close to the
> > tire and block the the horizontal motion of the tire during removal.
> > My impression is that the example in the picture allows the end of the
> > bolt closest to the seat tube to slide when the horizontal motion of
> > the wheel pushes the fender.  However, an All-Rounder's cross-brace
> > between the chain stays has a threaded hole for a fender bolt but the
> > hole dead-ends in the cross-brace. I've wondered if anyone has drilled
> > through the cross-brace to allow a fender bolt to slide through? If
> > not, is there some other solution?
>
> > Thanks,
> > ...Roy
>
> > On Jul 28, 9:40 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > > > Here you go:
>
> > > Joe, thanks for the linked photo.  That shows what I was missing in my
> > > scheme.  The bolt is thinner than it would be allowing the fender to
> > > move back and forth over it.  Brilliant!
>
> > > On Jul 28, 5:54 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > > > Here you go:
>
> > > >http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2009/04/spring-thing.html
>
> > > > > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:59 -0700
> > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy
> > > > > From: dougpn...@cox.net
> > > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > > Can you post a photo?  Springs are easy to find at good hardware
> > > > > stores & especially industrial supply stores.  There's more to the
> > > > > mounting than just using a spring, correct?
>
> > > > > dougP
>
> > > > > On Jul 28, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > > > > > Some creative bike mechanics use a spring device to attach the 
> > > > > > fender
> > > > > > to the chain stay bridge.  Seems like that is ideal for my current
> > > > > > project as the bike has Campy 1010 horizontal dropouts.
>
> > > > > > I have looked around and do not see where any of the usual suspects
> > > > > > sell such a thing.  Are the mechanics cobbling this together?  If 
> > > > > > so,
> > > > > > anyone come across a blog or youtube showing how?
>
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[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread JoelMatthews
> On the North Side, Clark and Devon hardware - northeast corner (my old
> neighborhood!)
>
> Also check out Gary's Cycles, one or two blocks south on the east side of
> Clark.  That LBS is essentially the same as it was in 1962.

I will have to check them out.  As it happens, the street
configuration there is among the least bike friendly in the city, so I
avoid whenver possible (when I go to Rogers Park I usually take Damen
to where it turns onto Ravenswood, then Ravenswood north - the
cyclists have beaten a path at Peterson).

It would seem there must be some way to get a bolt on either side of a
spring so you can attach one to the bridge and the other to the
fender.

On Jul 28, 11:00 pm, Ken Freeman  wrote:
> On the North Side, Clark and Devon hardware - northeast corner (my old
> neighborhood!)
>
> Also check out Gary's Cycles, one or two blocks south on the east side of
> Clark.  That LBS is essentially the same as it was in 1962.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:39 PM, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > > I am fortunate to have a local hardware store that has a box with at
> > > least one of every conceivable small spring.
>
> > Sadly, Home Despot and GalLowes have wreaked havoc on the independent
> > hardware stores in Chicago.  There probably are a few left in some of
> > the smaller, further out suburbs.  I will have to look around.
>
> > On Jul 28, 8:11 pm, Bob Cooper  wrote:
> > > I am fortunate to have a local hardware store that has a box with at
> > > least one of every conceivable small spring.
>
> > > You might try that route.
>
> > > Bob
>
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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread JoelMatthews
Beautiful work.  The Hillborne and Ultegra headset look just fine
together.

On Jul 29, 6:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
 wrote:
> I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> shifting.
>
> Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> build.
>
> Bryan

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[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-29 Thread Garth

Jim, I checked the RD travel with no chain on, and it hits the 28t cog
despite the B screw all the way in, at the highest tension.

I'm not sure what value the Park Tool idea is though, as on my road
bike, the XT RD will hit the 32t cog with the chain off, but with the
chain on it's not too close, and it shifts fine.

I'm using all 114 included links of a SRAM chain, BTW. As far as I
know, the Bombadil doesn't need longer than a stock chain.

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[RBW] FS: Nitto S-83 Seatpost (very scratched up)

2010-07-29 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Functionally it's perfect but aesthetically in pretty rough shape from a lot
of moving around from bike to bike and at different heights. Seat tube
scratches on pretty much entire length. Used mostly on my commuter/beater,
and probably ideal for yours. $50 shipped to CONUS. Can provide pics if
absolutely necessary.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Shaun Meehan
Looks great! You really take some fantastic bike pictures. I love that
Hillborne orange. I've been riding a Surly Pacer quite a bit lately,
and it's equipped with Shimano Tiagra "brifters". It's the first
brifter equipped bike that I've ridden in a long time. I know it's
sort of "sacrilege" on this list, but I really like the brifters a
lot. They're super ergonomic and they shift perfectly (at least for
now). What kind of bar tape did you use on the Hillborne?

Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)

2010-07-29 Thread Earl Grey
Thanks for all the recommendations.

I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to
keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted
the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast,
rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the
benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a
very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT...

Btw, I think she could be convinced to spend $2000 on the right bike,
but more may be a stretch.

Cheers,

Gernot


On Jul 28, 1:18 am, Phil Bickford  wrote:
> Earl - If you go with 24" tires like the Red-Line then here's a
> bobish alternative:
>
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/bik/1863030284.html
>
> Tire selection is probably abysmal in 24".  I'd try to stay with 26"
> if you can.
>
> Phil B
>
> On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13") but
> > now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and
> > commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys
> > (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does
> > anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to
> > 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider?

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[RBW] Wanted: mixte or step-through bike in NZ (or shopping help)

2010-07-29 Thread Earl Grey
Hi,

another friend of mine has just moved to New Zealand (Palmerston North
on the north island, to be precise), and is looking for an around-town
bike/commuter. Something with fenders and a rack or basket that she
can ride in a skirt. Could be a cheapo like my wife's Raleigh I wrote
about here recently. Anyone know anyone in the area selling a bike, or
who could help her find one? She is not (yet) bike-savvy.

Cheers,

Gernot

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[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread Roy Yates
Joel: I'm glad you asked first. My All-Rounder has horizontal dropouts
and the wheel really needs to slide forward for removal more than a
nice fender line permits.

Angus: Can you dig up a picture of your installation? I have the same
questions as Joel. Or if a photo is not possible, maybe a second try
on a description?

Thanks,
...Roy

On Jul 29, 8:10 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
> > corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
> > even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
> > spring-thingie.
>
> Are you just putting the cork between the bike and no fender with not
> bolt inside?  If so, how does it stay in place/ If bolted, how do you
> get the fender out of the way when removing the fender?  Or does the
> All-Rounder have vertical (or even semi-horizontal) drop outs?
>
> On Jul 29, 2:55 am, Angus  wrote:
>
> > Roy,
>
> > I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
> > corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
> > even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
> > spring-thingie.
>
> > Angus
>
> > On Jul 28, 9:25 pm, Roy Yates  wrote:
>
> > > I've needed this spring thingy for my All-Rounder which has a big gap
> > > from the 26 inch wheels/tire to the cross-brace between the chain
> > > stays. However, I don't think I would want the fender to slide on the
> > > bolt. In that case, won't the head of the bolt always be close to the
> > > tire and block the the horizontal motion of the tire during removal.
> > > My impression is that the example in the picture allows the end of the
> > > bolt closest to the seat tube to slide when the horizontal motion of
> > > the wheel pushes the fender.  However, an All-Rounder's cross-brace
> > > between the chain stays has a threaded hole for a fender bolt but the
> > > hole dead-ends in the cross-brace. I've wondered if anyone has drilled
> > > through the cross-brace to allow a fender bolt to slide through? If
> > > not, is there some other solution?
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > ...Roy
>
> > > On Jul 28, 9:40 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > > > > Here you go:
>
> > > > Joe, thanks for the linked photo.  That shows what I was missing in my
> > > > scheme.  The bolt is thinner than it would be allowing the fender to
> > > > move back and forth over it.  Brilliant!
>
> > > > On Jul 28, 5:54 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > > > > Here you go:
>
> > > > >http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2009/04/spring-thing.html
>
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:59 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy
> > > > > > From: dougpn...@cox.net
> > > > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > > > Can you post a photo?  Springs are easy to find at good hardware
> > > > > > stores & especially industrial supply stores.  There's more to the
> > > > > > mounting than just using a spring, correct?
>
> > > > > > dougP
>
> > > > > > On Jul 28, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > > > > > > Some creative bike mechanics use a spring device to attach the 
> > > > > > > fender
> > > > > > > to the chain stay bridge.  Seems like that is ideal for my current
> > > > > > > project as the bike has Campy 1010 horizontal dropouts.
>
> > > > > > > I have looked around and do not see where any of the usual 
> > > > > > > suspects
> > > > > > > sell such a thing.  Are the mechanics cobbling this together?  If 
> > > > > > > so,
> > > > > > > anyone come across a blog or youtube showing how?
>
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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Pesce
Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!

Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
Imperial saddle it's the same.

I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.

I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
about the look of the crank.

-Pete

On Jul 29, 7:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
 wrote:
> I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> shifting.
>
> Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> build.
>
> Bryan

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[RBW] FS: Brooks Swallow Titanium (Honey)

2010-07-29 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Used, but in phenomenal shape. The no-compromise, best-of-all-worlds Brooks
saddle, in the best color. $280 shipped FedEx to CONUS. Please repy
off-list.

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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Michael_S
looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.

~Mike~

On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!
>
> Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
> Imperial saddle it's the same.
>
> I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
> the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.
>
> I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
> about the look of the crank.
>
> -Pete
>
> On Jul 29, 7:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> > I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> > to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> > Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> >http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> > Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> > Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> > balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> > bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> > shifting.
>
> > Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> > build.
>
> > Bryan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)

2010-07-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Thanks for all the recommendations.
>
> I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to
> keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted
> the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast,
> rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the
> benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a
> very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT...
>

a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they
may be more than she wants to spend.

and salukis are really pretty.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)

2010-07-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Thanks for all the recommendations.
>
> I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to
> keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted
> the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast,
> rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the
> benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a
> very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT...
>

a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they
may be more than she wants to spend.

and salukis are really pretty.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Michael_S
I was just thinkin'... these bikes would look very cool with that new
Gran Compe centerpull brakeset from VO!

~Mike~

On Jul 29, 7:18 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
> canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
> one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!
>
> > Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
> > Imperial saddle it's the same.
>
> > I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
> > the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.
>
> > I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
> > about the look of the crank.
>
> > -Pete
>
> > On Jul 29, 7:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
>
> >  wrote:
> > > I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> > > to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> > > Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> > >http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> > > Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> > > Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> > > balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> > > bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> > > shifting.
>
> > > Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> > > build.
>
> > > Bryan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Pesce
As far as I can tell the "decorative" elements of the lugs are a bit
different on these Sams from the previous orange models.
And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.

On Jul 29, 10:18 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
> canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
> one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
> > Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!
>
> > Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
> > Imperial saddle it's the same.
>
> > I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
> > the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.
>
> > I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
> > about the look of the crank.
>
> > -Pete
>
> > On Jul 29, 7:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
>
> >  wrote:
> > > I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> > > to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> > > Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> > >http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> > > Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> > > Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> > > balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> > > bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> > > shifting.
>
> > > Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> > > build.
>
> > > Bryan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread JoelMatthews
Wasn't minding my edits this a.m.  Meant to say:

"> Are you just putting the cork between the bike and fender with no
> bolt inside?"

And to Roy's point, a photo if possible would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

Who would have thought something so apparently simple could become so
complicated!

On Jul 29, 7:10 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
> > corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
> > even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
> > spring-thingie.
>
> Are you just putting the cork between the bike and no fender with not
> bolt inside?  If so, how does it stay in place/ If bolted, how do you
> get the fender out of the way when removing the fender?  Or does the
> All-Rounder have vertical (or even semi-horizontal) drop outs?
>
> On Jul 29, 2:55 am, Angus  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Roy,
>
> > I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
> > corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
> > even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
> > spring-thingie.
>
> > Angus
>
> > On Jul 28, 9:25 pm, Roy Yates  wrote:
>
> > > I've needed this spring thingy for my All-Rounder which has a big gap
> > > from the 26 inch wheels/tire to the cross-brace between the chain
> > > stays. However, I don't think I would want the fender to slide on the
> > > bolt. In that case, won't the head of the bolt always be close to the
> > > tire and block the the horizontal motion of the tire during removal.
> > > My impression is that the example in the picture allows the end of the
> > > bolt closest to the seat tube to slide when the horizontal motion of
> > > the wheel pushes the fender.  However, an All-Rounder's cross-brace
> > > between the chain stays has a threaded hole for a fender bolt but the
> > > hole dead-ends in the cross-brace. I've wondered if anyone has drilled
> > > through the cross-brace to allow a fender bolt to slide through? If
> > > not, is there some other solution?
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > ...Roy
>
> > > On Jul 28, 9:40 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > > > > Here you go:
>
> > > > Joe, thanks for the linked photo.  That shows what I was missing in my
> > > > scheme.  The bolt is thinner than it would be allowing the fender to
> > > > move back and forth over it.  Brilliant!
>
> > > > On Jul 28, 5:54 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > > > > Here you go:
>
> > > > >http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2009/04/spring-thing.html
>
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:59 -0700
> > > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy
> > > > > > From: dougpn...@cox.net
> > > > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > > > Can you post a photo?  Springs are easy to find at good hardware
> > > > > > stores & especially industrial supply stores.  There's more to the
> > > > > > mounting than just using a spring, correct?
>
> > > > > > dougP
>
> > > > > > On Jul 28, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > > > > > > Some creative bike mechanics use a spring device to attach the 
> > > > > > > fender
> > > > > > > to the chain stay bridge.  Seems like that is ideal for my current
> > > > > > > project as the bike has Campy 1010 horizontal dropouts.
>
> > > > > > > I have looked around and do not see where any of the usual 
> > > > > > > suspects
> > > > > > > sell such a thing.  Are the mechanics cobbling this together?  If 
> > > > > > > so,
> > > > > > > anyone come across a blog or youtube showing how?
>
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Re: [RBW] Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-29 Thread Rene Sterental
There is always the option, in addition to all other suggestions, of
reversing the B screw to get some extra separation...

That's what I did on the Bombadil first and now the Atlantis to be
able to run a rear 12-36 with an XT Rapid Rise RD.

René

On 7/29/10, Garth  wrote:
>
> Jim, I checked the RD travel with no chain on, and it hits the 28t cog
> despite the B screw all the way in, at the highest tension.
>
> I'm not sure what value the Park Tool idea is though, as on my road
> bike, the XT RD will hit the 32t cog with the chain off, but with the
> chain on it's not too close, and it shifts fine.
>
> I'm using all 114 included links of a SRAM chain, BTW. As far as I
> know, the Bombadil doesn't need longer than a stock chain.
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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
@ Shaun,

Thanks for the complements ... I too am a brifter man on my "racey"
Soma Stanyan.

The tape is Brooks leather in Brown.  Super good quality stuff ... the
cork bar end plugs are a really nice touch.

In fact, I've added few more photos of the bars, tape, saddle, and a
few Polariods just for fun:
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/?album=12&gallery=63

Bryan


On Jul 29, 9:43 am, Shaun Meehan  wrote:
> Looks great! You really take some fantastic bike pictures. I love that
> Hillborne orange. I've been riding a Surly Pacer quite a bit lately,
> and it's equipped with Shimano Tiagra "brifters". It's the first
> brifter equipped bike that I've ridden in a long time. I know it's
> sort of "sacrilege" on this list, but I really like the brifters a
> lot. They're super ergonomic and they shift perfectly (at least for
> now). What kind of bar tape did you use on the Hillborne?
>
> Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Considering selling my Colnago Tecnos 2000

2010-07-29 Thread jinxed
I suppose in the spectrum of things this could be considered at the go
fast fancy end of Rivendell-esque.

A 54cm 1999 Colnago Tecnos 2000. Full Campagnolo 10 etc...

I took this out for a 60 mile ride a couple weekends ago and came back
realizing the go-fast in me done got up and went. I have absolutely
loved this bike as the original owner for the last 11 years.
Completely babied and in near mint condition.

I'll admit, I love to have it hanging in the house, staring at it's
Italianess. But if it's not going to be ridden...it may need a new
lover. Never look back right? First rule of racing...what is behind
you does not matter.

I'm not really going to push it, but if someone here wants to cut a
fine figure...contact me.

Not sure on pricing...can't find ANY that are selling or have sold.
Less than a complete Riv, more than a complete Surly.

I will apologize for the crummy cell photo, but my camera was hijacked
by my wife this morning. I can get detailed photos tonight.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/4841190254/#/photos/42027...@n00/4841190254/lightbox/

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Re: [RBW] Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-29 Thread Ken Freeman
If the jockey wheel is hitting the cog it's too close. Shortening the
chain is IMO the main way of rotating the cage so the jockey wheel
position os farther from the cog.  Then you have to see if operation
over the rest of the range is acceptable. If it's not, you might need
a different dérailleur.

A B screw adjustment might help.
On Thursday, July 29, 2010, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 7/28/10 6:09 PM, Angus at angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> This must be "if Jim is wrong day"
>
> Y'know I'm wrong _every_ day.
> In fact, I strive to be wrong every day.
> Somedays I do six wrong things before breakfast...
>
>> By looking at the picture of the derailleur the upper pivot and upper
>> jockey pulley are in different places.  Look at the picture and
>> imagine a shorter chain, it would rotate the cage counter-clockwise,
>> pulling the upper jockey pulley away from the cog.
>
> I just keep thinking that the issue isn't really the overall chain length as
> much as it is side load on the derailluer.  My suggestion was to lessen
> tension from the chain while the derailleur is at its most extended
> position.
>
> I kinda lost track if the OP mentioned that he'd checked derailleur travel
> with no chain installed (been workng/engineering today/this evening).  If
> the derailleur swings through the proper range without a chain, and keeps
> enough spacing from the cogs, then it might be worth tweaking the chain
> length to see if that helps.
>
> Should look like  this -
> http://www.parktool.com/images_inc/repair_help/der_llimit.gif
>
> from:
> http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=64
>
>
> - J
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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread M. Chandler
The transition from the hoods to the flats looks fantastic.  Which
bars are those?

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[RBW] madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread Seth Vidal
If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
1. to travel by bike while in town
2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town

anyone know where I should look/talk to?

-sv

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[RBW] Re: madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread Brad Gantt
I've heard good things about this shop from friends in Madison-
http://www.revolutioncycles.net/

On Jul 29, 10:44 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
> 1. to travel by bike while in town
> 2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town
>
> anyone know where I should look/talk to?
>
> -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Rob Harrison
Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
missing?


Rob in Seattle


On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:


And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.


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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread William
Design flaw?  No.  Design choice with which some will disagree?
Yes.

Many cages clear the FD without standoffs...the King Cage Riv sells
being my favorite

For every frame with a low mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to reach
For every frame with a high mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to shoulder the
bike

Being able to easily reach the seat tube H2O bottle in my mind would
only be important if you needed two different beverage choices while
riding.  Otherwise it's easy-access on the downtube and backup water
on the seattube.  Swap them out when the downtube one is empty.  What
it gets you is extra space in the frame for a bag or for shouldering
the bike.

Low-mount H2O bosses have screwed me up a few times when I've wanted
to use a 'low-clamp' front derailleur.



On Jul 29, 11:39 am, Rob Harrison  wrote:
> Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
> design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
> over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
> grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
> missing?
>
> Rob in Seattle
>
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:
>
> > And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
> > mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
> > Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread Tim McNamara


On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:


If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
1. to travel by bike while in town
2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town

anyone know where I should look/talk to?


Andy Muzi at the Yellow Jersey, one of the ten best bike shops on the  
planet.


www.yellowjersey.org

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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread rperks
As stated there are tradeoffs both ways.  Best spacer I have fond to
date for this "problem" is a single presta valve nut on each.

Rob

On Jul 29, 11:56 am, William  wrote:
> Design flaw?  No.  Design choice with which some will disagree?
> Yes.
>
> Many cages clear the FD without standoffs...the King Cage Riv sells
> being my favorite
>
> For every frame with a low mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
> observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to reach
> For every frame with a high mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
> observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to shoulder the
> bike
>
> Being able to easily reach the seat tube H2O bottle in my mind would
> only be important if you needed two different beverage choices while
> riding.  Otherwise it's easy-access on the downtube and backup water
> on the seattube.  Swap them out when the downtube one is empty.  What
> it gets you is extra space in the frame for a bag or for shouldering
> the bike.
>
> Low-mount H2O bosses have screwed me up a few times when I've wanted
> to use a 'low-clamp' front derailleur.
>
> On Jul 29, 11:39 am, Rob Harrison  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
> > design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
> > over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
> > grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
> > missing?
>
> > Rob in Seattle
>
> > On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:
>
> > > And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
> > > mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
> > > Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:15 PM, rperks  wrote:
> As stated there are tradeoffs both ways.  Best spacer I have fond to
> date for this "problem" is a single presta valve nut on each.
>

presta-valve-nut! that makes so much more sense now!

I thought those were just things the tube manufacturers gave us to use
as spacers for rear-rack installs to let our fender stays sneak past.

:)

-sv

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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Bill
I just took delivery on a double top tube 60 Sam frame.  As good as
the orange looks in photos, and the Renaissance ones in particular,
it's simply stunning in the flesh.  Once I decided on getting a Sam I
really waffled trying to choose between the green and orange.
Availability solved that issue for me, and now there's no looking
back.  Let the build begin.

Bill

On Jul 29, 7:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
 wrote:
> I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> shifting.
>
> Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> build.
>
> Bryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Rob Harrison

Good points William, thanks.

Rob in Seattle


On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:56 AM, William wrote (about low water bottle  
bosses):



Design flaw?  No.  Design choice with which some will disagree?
Yes.


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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Pesce
Thanks William.
That's the first reasonable explanation I've heard for that "design
choice."

-Pete

On Jul 29, 2:56 pm, William  wrote:
> Design flaw?  No.  Design choice with which some will disagree?
> Yes.
>
> Many cages clear the FD without standoffs...the King Cage Riv sells
> being my favorite
>
> For every frame with a low mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
> observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to reach
> For every frame with a high mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
> observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to shoulder the
> bike
>
> Being able to easily reach the seat tube H2O bottle in my mind would
> only be important if you needed two different beverage choices while
> riding.  Otherwise it's easy-access on the downtube and backup water
> on the seattube.  Swap them out when the downtube one is empty.  What
> it gets you is extra space in the frame for a bag or for shouldering
> the bike.
>
> Low-mount H2O bosses have screwed me up a few times when I've wanted
> to use a 'low-clamp' front derailleur.
>
> On Jul 29, 11:39 am, Rob Harrison  wrote:
>
> > Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
> > design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
> > over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
> > grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
> > missing?
>
> > Rob in Seattle
>
> > On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:
>
> > > And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
> > > mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
> > > Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.

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[RBW] Re: s24o in progress

2010-07-29 Thread William
I posted some of the pictures I took.  I did a poor job of taking
shots during the climb itself.  I admire how guys like Manny can take
60 photos during a 3000ft climb.  That's not me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/



On Jul 25, 6:56 am, Mike  wrote:
> John Denver! I was on a bike camping trip earlier in the week and had
> Country Roads stuck in my head. At least they weren't playing Limp
> Bizkit.
>
> Please share pictures with us if you have any.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Free 559 rear wheel

2010-07-29 Thread RonLau
To all,

Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.

Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
and that is.

Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.

Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
wheel.

Ron

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Re: [RBW] Free 559 rear wheel

2010-07-29 Thread James Warren

Hey Ron,
If it's available, I could come and pick it up in Berkeley sometime around 
August 15th.

Thanks,
Jim Warren
(orange Ram guy from the Fairfax ride last December)


-Original Message-
>From: RonLau 
>Sent: Jul 29, 2010 5:45 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Free 559 rear wheel
>
>To all,
>
>Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
>Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.
>
>Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
>and that is.
>
>Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.
>
>Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
>wheel.
>
>Ron
>
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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I agree. Seems like the placement of the bottle cage bosses need not
be so low on a 60cm. Especially so low that they overlap the derailer
clamp.

However...

I have a double-top-tube 60cm Hillborne. While its bottle cage bosses
are reasonable where they are (on mine they're both solidly above the
derailer clamp), the simple addition of a frame bag mount (not the bag
itself) to the lower top tube has made it rather tedious to use the
seat tube bottle cage for an actual bottle. I never anticipated that
I'd be able to use the actual bag and still have good access to the
bottle cage. But I had hoped to be able to use the bottle cage when
only the bag's attachment dealy is in place. So, on my frame anyway,
having them a little lower would be nice. They could be a solid inch
or more lower without a chance of overlapping the derailer.

I'm thinking of adding a clamp below the front derailer specifically
to *lower* the bottle cage mount position so that the cage is more
generally useful. I haven't yet measured to see if it would be
practical to do so.

All that said... As problems go, this one barely rates. And it's
probably the most glaring "imperfection" (if it even qualifies as one)
my Hillborne has. It is one fantastic bike. Easy to build up,
fantastic to ride.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Jul 29, 9:24 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> As far as I can tell the "decorative" elements of the lugs are a bit
> different on these Sams from the previous orange models.
> And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
> mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
> Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.
>
> On Jul 29, 10:18 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
> > canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
> > one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
> > > Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!
>
> > > Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
> > > Imperial saddle it's the same.
>
> > > I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
> > > the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.
>
> > > I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
> > > about the look of the crank.
>
> > > -Pete
>
> > > On Jul 29, 7:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
>
> > >  wrote:
> > > > I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> > > > to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> > > > Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> > > >http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> > > > Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> > > > Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> > > > balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> > > > bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> > > > shifting.
>
> > > > Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> > > > build.
>
> > > > Bryan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: s24o in progress

2010-07-29 Thread Jim Cloud
So, did you bring your tent on your camping trip?  If you did, were
you glad that brought it, or was it extraneous and not needed.  Just
curious, after your previous posts requesting input on the need to
carry a tent for an S24O.

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Jul 25, 6:56 am, Mike  wrote:
> John Denver! I was on a bike camping trip earlier in the week and had
> Country Roads stuck in my head. At least they weren't playing Limp
> Bizkit.
>
> Please share pictures with us if you have any.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: s24o in progress

2010-07-29 Thread William
Jim

That wasn't my thread.  I always planned on bringing the tent.  I just
about always prefer being in a tent, and am not an ounce-squeezer when
I camp.  I actually brought both a tent and a bivy sack.  I gave Doug
the Bivy sack.  He had planned sleeping in the open air.  There were
some bugs.

On Jul 29, 2:57 pm, Jim Cloud  wrote:
> So, did you bring your tent on your camping trip?  If you did, were
> you glad that brought it, or was it extraneous and not needed.  Just
> curious, after your previous posts requesting input on the need to
> carry a tent for an S24O.
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
>
> On Jul 25, 6:56 am, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > John Denver! I was on a bike camping trip earlier in the week and had
> > Country Roads stuck in my head. At least they weren't playing Limp
> > Bizkit.
>
> > Please share pictures with us if you have any.
>
> > --mike

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[RBW] Apology

2010-07-29 Thread James Warren

Listmembers,
I want to briefly apologize for "replying all" to a single member on a private 
matter for probably the 5th time in the past few years.

-Jim W.


-Original Message-
>From: RonLau 
>Sent: Jul 29, 2010 5:45 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Free 559 rear wheel
>
>To all,
>
>Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
>Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.
>
>Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
>and that is.
>
>Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.
>
>Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
>wheel.
>
>Ron
>
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[RBW] Re: Free 559 rear wheel

2010-07-29 Thread RonLau
We have a taker already.  Thank you all.

On Jul 29, 2:45 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> To all,
>
> Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
> Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.
>
> Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
> and that is.
>
> Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.
>
> Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
> wheel.
>
> Ron

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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread RoadieRyan
Bryan

Very lovely looking build,one of the few Sam's I have seen built up as
a "go fast" bike and it looks like it could go snap off a 20 mph club
ride no problem.  FWIW I really like the sidepull look on the Sam.

Odd that all of the Ultegra group is "ice grey" except the shifters
seems like the levers usually match the color of the rest of the
group.

So is Murphy ever going to give you back your Schwinn to
finish.???

Ryan

On Jul 29, 4:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
 wrote:
> I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> shifting.
>
> Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> build.
>
> Bryan

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[RBW] Re: s24o in progress

2010-07-29 Thread manueljohnacosta
The pictures look great. I take a ton of pictures because I feel some
what comfortable doing so and I get really bored on climbs that are
steady. But I've taken a couple of spills and broke a handful of
cameras doing so during the process.


On Jul 29, 3:05 pm, William  wrote:
> Jim
>
> That wasn't my thread.  I always planned on bringing the tent.  I just
> about always prefer being in a tent, and am not an ounce-squeezer when
> I camp.  I actually brought both a tent and a bivy sack.  I gave Doug
> the Bivy sack.  He had planned sleeping in the open air.  There were
> some bugs.
>
> On Jul 29, 2:57 pm, Jim Cloud  wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, did you bring your tent on your camping trip?  If you did, were
> > you glad that brought it, or was it extraneous and not needed.  Just
> > curious, after your previous posts requesting input on the need to
> > carry a tent for an S24O.
>
> > Jim Cloud
> > Tucson, AZ
>
> > On Jul 25, 6:56 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> > > John Denver! I was on a bike camping trip earlier in the week and had
> > > Country Roads stuck in my head. At least they weren't playing Limp
> > > Bizkit.
>
> > > Please share pictures with us if you have any.
>
> > > --mike

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[RBW] Re: 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread EricP
Hadn't noticed, but it would make the newer Hillborne bikes easier to
mount a frame bag, such as the Revelate Designs Tangle with a lower
bottle mount.

Yes, the fork crown is different now.  I have an early Hillborne and
the design is different.  I like mine, but if I had the newer, I'd
like that, too.

As to the lower bottle mount, have it on another bike, and have used
the presta nut spacer solution.  Otherwise, don't really notice a
difference in actually reaching down to grab a bottle.

Oh, and add me to the list - those are very nice photos of a very nice
build.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jul 29, 4:57 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> I agree. Seems like the placement of the bottle cage bosses need not
> be so low on a 60cm. Especially so low that they overlap the derailer
> clamp.
>
> However...
>
> I have a double-top-tube 60cm Hillborne. While its bottle cage bosses
> are reasonable where they are (on mine they're both solidly above the
> derailer clamp), the simple addition of a frame bag mount (not the bag
> itself) to the lower top tube has made it rather tedious to use the
> seat tube bottle cage for an actual bottle. I never anticipated that
> I'd be able to use the actual bag and still have good access to the
> bottle cage. But I had hoped to be able to use the bottle cage when
> only the bag's attachment dealy is in place. So, on my frame anyway,
> having them a little lower would be nice. They could be a solid inch
> or more lower without a chance of overlapping the derailer.
>
> I'm thinking of adding a clamp below the front derailer specifically
> to *lower* the bottle cage mount position so that the cage is more
> generally useful. I haven't yet measured to see if it would be
> practical to do so.
>
> All that said... As problems go, this one barely rates. And it's
> probably the most glaring "imperfection" (if it even qualifies as one)
> my Hillborne has. It is one fantastic bike. Easy to build up,
> fantastic to ride.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Jul 29, 9:24 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
>
>
> > As far as I can tell the "decorative" elements of the lugs are a bit
> > different on these Sams from the previous orange models.
> > And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
> > mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
> > Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.
>
> > On Jul 29, 10:18 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
> > > canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
> > > one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.
>
> > > ~Mike~
>
> > > On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
> > > > Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!
>
> > > > Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
> > > > Imperial saddle it's the same.
>
> > > > I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
> > > > the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.
>
> > > > I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
> > > > about the look of the crank.
>
> > > > -Pete
>
> > > > On Jul 29, 7:55 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm "Maxway" Hillborne
> > > > > to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived "2010" frameset from
> > > > > Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.
>
> > > > >http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
>
> > > > > Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
> > > > > Ultegra line -- this time in "ice grey".  A  few retrogrouches might
> > > > > balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
> > > > > bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
> > > > > shifting.
>
> > > > > Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
> > > > > build.
>
> > > > > Bryan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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[RBW] Re: Cowboy shirts

2010-07-29 Thread EricP
Update - got my shirt yesterday.  Washed it last night and wore to
work today.  At 6' and 220, the XL fits.  In a perfect world would
like the shirt tails and sleeves about 1/2 inch longer.  That's my
preference.  It looks fine.  And probably better when the shirt is
untucked over MUSA shorts.

Also, the color shown on the website isn't necessarily that accurate.
The shot of the label is the best at showing the red.  Otherwise, it
veers a bit to the pink for my taste.  In person, it definitely seems
red.  With a nice strong blue stripe.

So, yeah, the shirt is nice.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
(well past 40 and looking like a dork for more than half that time)

On Jul 23, 12:56 pm, Brad Gantt  wrote:
> I'm 6' 3" and a lean 195 lbs. The large Riv seersucker shirts fit me
> well. While I don't have the RR shirt (yet) I expect that it would fit
> just as well.

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[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 Narrow Brown

2010-07-29 Thread eflayer
FS: Brooks B17 Narrow Brown

I bought this thinking it might like my butt more than the standard
width B17. But standard still works best for me.

This is the rich brown color, not honey. Mounted in post, ridden
less than 5 miles. One swipe on top with Proofhide.

With original box and innards.

nice photo here, just in case you need a viewing:
http://aebike.com/product/brooks-b1...sa1269-qc30.htm

$75 shipped. Paypal via the personal tab preferred.

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[RBW] Hillborne out of town

2010-07-29 Thread EricP
Took the wife and our bikes on a short trip this weekend.  Went to
Wisconsin to ride, eat, and relax.  Had been on these trails a couple
of months ago, but with a different bike.  This time, took the
Hillborne.  After some misgivings, realized the bike could handle
these trails just fine.  About perfectly, in fact.  The 40mm wide
tires were wide enough for the gravel and less than optimum paving.
And the high handlebars and comfy handling of the bike combined to
make riding seriously fun.

The only thing less than ideal was the weather, which was slightly on
the hot and humid side.  Although not as bad as feared.  At least
until Tuesday.  A short jaunt on the trails that morning had me
perspiring quite freely.  Didn't see any fish mistaking the air for
the water, but it was close.

May be adding a few photos to this set in the near future.  Had to get
a roll of film developed.  And, well, we'll see what develops.
Otherwise, the set is here - http://tinyurl.com/2bdcrct

BTW, finally have over 1,000 miles on the Hillborne.  For some reason,
it was the last of the three main bikes to do that this year.   Will
need to make up for that.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] FS: B17 Narrow Brown

2010-07-29 Thread eflayer
Link to photo:

http://aebike.com/page.cfm?action=details&PageID=30&SKU=SA1269

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[RBW] Re: madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread lukemcg
This is a good shop with decent rental selections situated on a bike
path and bike friendly streets:
http://www.machineryrowbicycles.com/index.php/rentals

Luke

On Jul 29, 12:44 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
> 1. to travel by bike while in town
> 2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town
>
> anyone know where I should look/talk to?
>
> -sv

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Re: [RBW] madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread Glenn Ammons
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
> 1. to travel by bike while in town
> 2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town
>
> anyone know where I should look/talk to?

There's also the Budget Bicycle Center on Regent Street:

http://www.budgetbicyclectr.com/

There's no shortage of great bike shops in Madison!

--glenn
was Madison, WI, USA
now West Chester, PA, USA


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[RBW] FS: Paul Components Neo Retro Cantilever Brakes- Polished and Rack Adapter

2010-07-29 Thread Darren
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1870607304.html

I’m selling a bikes worth of these beautifully polished Paul
Components Neo Retro Cantilever Brakes. I mounted once but couldn’t
use them for my setup : ( , so they were never used and in new
condition. $100 each. Also selling Paul Component Rack Adapter $25
Cash and Carry. No Shipping. Thanks for looking.

San Francisco Bay Area only

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