date:20100426

On Apr 25, 8:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or down
> tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My only
> complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level of
> my top-tube-mounted pump...

And why is that bad?

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RE: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant

I agree with you, Eric--it'd be interesting to see it sold as is but Grant gets 
to decide how to proceed...and it might be even more interesting to see how it 
is transformed!

Steve

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Subject: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant


I'll be contrarian.  It's Rivendell's call, and if they feel the need
to re-do the bike before selling it, then they should.  While from the
photo, the bike looks nice, if Grant is not comfortable selling it
like that, he shouldn't be pressured into doing so.

In 20 years, is someone going to look at that bike and see "hey, a
cool concept from Rivendell" or "what was Grant thinking?"

Sort of reminds me of the Leica M5.  Yes, a way to put a meter in a
Leica M model.  But the end result looked like something that wasn't
"typical" Leica.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN



On Apr 23, 11:03�am, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> I agree, it seems a shame to go to all that work and lose money when
> there seems to be interest in it as is.
>
> On Apr 23, 7:00�am, bdavis999  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Grant,
>
> > Can I offer an idea here. �For many companies, part of the mystique
> > and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare
> > white elephant or skunk-works products.
>
> > An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. �Soemtimes
> > these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random
> > accidents.
>
> > I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own.
> > The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets
> > ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums.
>
> > I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how
> > you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a
> > rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs
> > and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I
> > think that's how it went).
>
> > Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one
> > of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay
> > up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it.
>
> > Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board
> > would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and
> > your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of
> > its tusks...
>
> > Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. �Maybe this is an opportunity
> > to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to
> > inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your
> > legacy.
>
> > Thanks!
> > Braden
>
> > On Apr 23, 1:22�am, Grant Petersen  wrote:
>
> > > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of
> > > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and
> > > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made
> > > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show.
> > > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. 
> > > If
> > > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most
> > > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over 
> > > two
> > > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the 
> > > only
> > > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the 
> > > farm,
> > > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it.
> > > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be
> > > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the
> > > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too.
>
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[RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace

> And why is that bad?

Dings, dents, scratches.

On Apr 26, 6:10 am, happyriding  wrote:
> On Apr 25, 8:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> > The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or down
> > tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My only
> > complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level of
> > my top-tube-mounted pump...
>
> And why is that bad?
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[RBW] Re: Paul racer M's

2010-04-26 Thread MichaelH

I (quite literally) owe my life to my neo-retros; that's why I speced
the racers on my new tandem and will convert my Rambouillet to Racer
Ms, as soon as I get the scratch. Growing old stinks, but it still
beats the alternative.
Michael


On Apr 26, 2:01 am, paul  wrote:
> These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have
> on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love
> these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs
> hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter
> how hard you pull. I am biased, duh, but this is a product I am really
> proud of.
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[RBW] nitto big rack question

Hi,

It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on
the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to
strap things onto the rack.  For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is
25 inches wide.  If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10
inches off the back.  It seems to me that if the upward jutting
horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way
up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off
the end of the rack.  Why was the rack designed that way?

Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack?  What did you think of it?

Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question

Many front racks incorporate similar features.

They serve two functions.  First, they are a handy place to strap
things.  Second, they stop things on top of the rack from falling on
to, and interefering with, the front brake.

On Apr 26, 7:53 am, happyriding  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on
> the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to
> strap things onto the rack.  For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is
> 25 inches wide.  If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10
> inches off the back.  It seems to me that if the upward jutting
> horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way
> up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off
> the end of the rack.  Why was the rack designed that way?
>
> Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack?  What did you think of it?
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question

Oh, and for loaded touring,  I prefer a plain lowrider with a bar
bag.

On Apr 26, 8:13 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> Many front racks incorporate similar features.
>
> They serve two functions.  First, they are a handy place to strap
> things.  Second, they stop things on top of the rack from falling on
> to, and interefering with, the front brake.
>
> On Apr 26, 7:53 am, happyriding  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on
> > the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to
> > strap things onto the rack.  For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is
> > 25 inches wide.  If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10
> > inches off the back.  It seems to me that if the upward jutting
> > horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way
> > up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off
> > the end of the rack.  Why was the rack designed that way?
>
> > Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack?  What did you think of it?
>
> > Thanks.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul racer M's

2010-04-26 Thread Dustin Sharp

I'm pretty excited about these brakes too; So much that I have speced the
braze-on version for an incoming custom.

And then there is the love I have for my neo-retros on another bike. Best
cantis out there.

Cheers,

Dustin Sharp
San Diego, Calif.


On 4/26/10 5:29 AM, "MichaelH"  wrote:

> I (quite literally) owe my life to my neo-retros; that's why I speced
> the racers on my new tandem and will convert my Rambouillet to Racer
> Ms, as soon as I get the scratch. Growing old stinks, but it still
> beats the alternative.
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2:01 am, paul  wrote:
>> These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have
>> on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love
>> these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs
>> hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter
>> how hard you pull. I am biased, duh, but this is a product I am really
>> proud of.
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Re: [RBW] nitto big rack question

2010-04-26 Thread Ray Shine

I have toured with the rack, as well as using it locally and for commuting from 
time to time.  You are absolutely correct.   That loop does interfere with 
packing objects onto the top of the rack, as well as interfere with some 
saddlebags hanging from the seat.  I have often considered cutting it off, just 
haven't.  I'm guessing that its function is to give some lateral bracing to the 
rack, and perhaps protect the brake hanger.  I guess …





From: happyriding 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:53:45 AM
Subject: [RBW] nitto big rack question

Hi,

It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on
the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to
strap things onto the rack.  For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is
25 inches wide.  If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10
inches off the back.  It seems to me that if the upward jutting
horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way
up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off
the end of the rack.  Why was the rack designed that way?

Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack?  What did you think of it?

Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Paul racer M's

2010-04-26 Thread Esteban

45mm fenders and 32mm tires - that sounds pretty great for my
Romulus.  Oh, wait, I have an Ebisu coming to accommodate just that
combo!  Oh, well.

The brakes look stellar.  Hopefully more people will post here with
their Roadeos/Rams/Roms all suited up in Ms!  Motolite BMXs on my
Rawland (dang! those are good), and neo-retros on the to-buy list.

Good stuff.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.



On Apr 26, 6:50 am, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
> I'm pretty excited about these brakes too; So much that I have speced the
> braze-on version for an incoming custom.
>
> And then there is the love I have for my neo-retros on another bike. Best
> cantis out there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dustin Sharp
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On 4/26/10 5:29 AM, "MichaelH"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I (quite literally) owe my life to my neo-retros; that's why I speced
> > the racers on my new tandem and will convert my Rambouillet to Racer
> > Ms, as soon as I get the scratch. Growing old stinks, but it still
> > beats the alternative.
> > Michael
>
> > On Apr 26, 2:01 am, paul  wrote:
> >> These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have
> >> on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love
> >> these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs
> >> hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter
> >> how hard you pull. I am biased, duh, but this is a product I am really
> >> proud of.
>
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[RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace

2010-04-26 Thread Scott G.

SunTour bar-cons still appear on E-bay, look for the "Schwinn
Approved"
models for extra style points. Blunt for knee safe operation.

When I rode Shimano bar-cons I practiced shifting with my knees,
good party trick.  Shimano friction is no where near a nice
as power ratchet, too stiff.

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/sg8357/Scott-Goldsmith/ebisu/Ebisu-AP.JPG.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul racer M's

2010-04-26 Thread James Warren


Spending a lot for outstanding brakes like these makes sense, while I can't 
understand the hype and expense that so many people are willing to tolerate 
when it comes to shifting systems...oh wait, this is the choir I'm talking to.

-Jim W.


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>From: Dustin Sharp 
>Sent: Apr 26, 2010 6:50 AM
>To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Paul racer M's
>
>I'm pretty excited about these brakes too; So much that I have speced the
>braze-on version for an incoming custom.
>
>And then there is the love I have for my neo-retros on another bike. Best
>cantis out there.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dustin Sharp
>San Diego, Calif.
>
>
>On 4/26/10 5:29 AM, "MichaelH"  wrote:
>
>> I (quite literally) owe my life to my neo-retros; that's why I speced
>> the racers on my new tandem and will convert my Rambouillet to Racer
>> Ms, as soon as I get the scratch. Growing old stinks, but it still
>> beats the alternative.
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2:01 am, paul  wrote:
>>> These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have
>>> on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love
>>> these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs
>>> hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter
>>> how hard you pull. I am biased, duh, but this is a product I am really
>>> proud of.
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul racer M's

Didn't know that, cool.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Dustin Sharp  wrote:

> I'm pretty excited about these brakes too; So much that I have speced the
> braze-on version for an incoming custom.
>
> And then there is the love I have for my neo-retros on another bike. Best
> cantis out there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dustin Sharp
> San Diego, Calif.
>
>
> On 4/26/10 5:29 AM, "MichaelH"  wrote:
>
> > I (quite literally) owe my life to my neo-retros; that's why I speced
> > the racers on my new tandem and will convert my Rambouillet to Racer
> > Ms, as soon as I get the scratch. Growing old stinks, but it still
> > beats the alternative.
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2:01 am, paul  wrote:
> >> These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have
> >> on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love
> >> these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs
> >> hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter
> >> how hard you pull. I am biased, duh, but this is a product I am really
> >> proud of.
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[RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

2010-04-26 Thread Justin August

How do you like the SRAM levers?

On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54  wrote:
> My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
> specials.
>
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> Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question

The loop does not have as much practical value when using the rack on
the back of the bike as the struts provide support and protect the
rear brake.  If you are lucky enough to have a bike with rack mount
studs on top of the fork crown, it would not be necessary up front,
either.

I think Ray is correct about lateral bracing.  Most front racks I have
seen without the loop are rated lower for weight than those that have
one.

On Apr 26, 8:54 am, Ray Shine  wrote:
> I have toured with the rack, as well as using it locally and for commuting 
> from time to time.  You are absolutely correct.   That loop does interfere 
> with packing objects onto the top of the rack, as well as interfere with some 
> saddlebags hanging from the seat.  I have often considered cutting it off, 
> just haven't.  I'm guessing that its function is to give some lateral bracing 
> to the rack, and perhaps protect the brake hanger.  I guess …
>
> 
> From: happyriding 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:53:45 AM
> Subject: [RBW] nitto big rack question
>
> Hi,
>
> It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on
> the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to
> strap things onto the rack.  For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is
> 25 inches wide.  If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10
> inches off the back.  It seems to me that if the upward jutting
> horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way
> up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off
> the end of the rack.  Why was the rack designed that way?
>
> Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack?  What did you think of it?
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Bridgestone

You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?

I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
(hell yes, pun intended!)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August wrote:

> How do you like the SRAM levers?
>
> On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54  wrote:
> > My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
> > specials.
> >
> > Pics at :  http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129
> >
> > Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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Re: [RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Bruce

Fountain pen restoration/collecting





From: Bridgestone 
Subject: [RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

2010-04-26 Thread Bruce

I like it okay, but that Brandywine Red is what I'm going for when my sage 
green one needs a re-do.


 http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc307-iankersey0507.html




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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!


  

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Re: [RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Seth Vidal

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Bruce  wrote:
> Fountain pen restoration/collecting
>

I don't restore them but I use them  fairly exclusively. But I used
them before I discovered rivendell.

I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a
riv'ish hobby.

Does gardening count? Probably not.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Jon Grant

Seth Vidal wrote:

I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a
riv'ish hobby.

Does gardening count? Probably not.

-sv

===

Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that
centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient,
fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it.

Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes,
yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers
himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny
Austin ³Green Acres² Texas


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[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question

I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers
nicely.  I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of
the newer therma-rest pads.  The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed
and could go in a pannier or sit on top.  A down sleeping bag in a
waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well.  I have
already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight
and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a
loaf of bread and I can fit both the mattress and the pad in the
sleeping bag compartment of my pack and use the pad loops to hold my
tent (which is usually wet) on the outside of the pack. No one wants
to go spend their fun tickets on gear when they have a perfectly
suitable mattress and sleeping bag that has served them well, but the
stuff is out there.

If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack.  No
horseshoe there.

D.G.

On Apr 26, 6:53 am, happyriding  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on
> the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to
> strap things onto the rack.  For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is
> 25 inches wide.  If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10
> inches off the back.  It seems to me that if the upward jutting
> horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way
> up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off
> the end of the rack.  Why was the rack designed that way?
>
> Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack?  What did you think of it?
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question

Believe you are referring to the B Gordon High Mount rack:

http://bgcycles.com/racks.html

BG does some interesting things with that rack.  It attached both at
the drop out and mid fork mount.  It also sets further back on the
fork than most front racks.  For the right bike, it is a great design.

On Apr 26, 10:13 am, "Darin G."  wrote:
> I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers
> nicely.  I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of
> the newer therma-rest pads.  The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed
> and could go in a pannier or sit on top.  A down sleeping bag in a
> waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well.  I have
> already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight
> and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a
> loaf of bread and I can fit both the mattress and the pad in the
> sleeping bag compartment of my pack and use the pad loops to hold my
> tent (which is usually wet) on the outside of the pack. No one wants
> to go spend their fun tickets on gear when they have a perfectly
> suitable mattress and sleeping bag that has served them well, but the
> stuff is out there.
>
> If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack.  No
> horseshoe there.
>
> D.G.
>
> On Apr 26, 6:53 am, happyriding  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on
> > the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to
> > strap things onto the rack.  For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is
> > 25 inches wide.  If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10
> > inches off the back.  It seems to me that if the upward jutting
> > horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way
> > up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off
> > the end of the rack.  Why was the rack designed that way?
>
> > Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack?  What did you think of it?
>
> > Thanks.
>
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RE: [RBW] STI 10 speed with 24-34 as low

Nice bike!  I ran that rust tape on my same color Heron for a while--it's a 
good look.  Running tan now to match the Banana bag...

Steve

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Subject: [RBW] STI 10 speed with 24-34 as low

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4551628878/in/set-72157623929181002/

Hard to set up, especially since I used the Mavic crank, but it almost gets 
every gear I want. Anyway, I'm happy to add this Heron road photo, since we 
don't see enough of that model. I want to thank Todd Kuzma for being really 
helpful to me when he sold the frame to me in late 2007. I've been using the 
bike in various shifting modes (road thumbies for example) for a about a year 
and a half, and in mid-09, Nashbar was closing out their Ultegra 10 speed 
triple brifters for $140, so I couldn't resist.

To get an extreme gear on the low end and not rub the chain on the high end, I 
sometimes have to turn the downtube barrel adjuster while riding. It actually 
kind of addresses the problem. It's like having some trim on your trim-lacking 
Shimano front brifters.

-Jim W.

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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

> Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that
centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient,
fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand
it.

Agree.  Self supporting and sustainable.

I don't have a yard, so gardening is out.  I do collect old tools,
some of which come in handy when working on the Riv.  All of which
make clear that while technology inevitably marches along, those who
came before us knew a thing or two about getting things done.

On Apr 26, 10:13 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
> Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a
> riv'ish hobby.
>
> Does gardening count? Probably not.
>
> -sv
>
> ===
>
> Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that
> centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient,
> fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it.
>
> Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes,
> yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers
> himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny
> Austin ³Green Acres² Texas
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[RBW] Re: Coth tape; was: Daughter's New Whip

2010-04-26 Thread wile

I wrap from the ends, first cork, then cloth.  The cork makes it all
the way to the top of the bar, several inches from the stem.  One roll
of cloth makes it just several inches past the brake lever because of
the increased diameter, so I use two rolls of cloth on each side (ends
up 1.5 with pieces left over).  I start the second roll just
overlapping with the first and make one full revolution before
continuing up the bar.  Twine at the end and shellac the whole thing.
I know two rolls of cloth on each side seems excessive, but I am so
happy with the looks and comfort and I think it should last a long
time.

On Apr 26, 3:31 am, Angus  wrote:
> I wrap from the ends toward the center of the bar.  Wrapped from the
> center out, a hand sliding down the bar can lift the edge of the
> tape.  If it is shellacked it probably doesn't matter.
>
> Angus
>
> On Apr 25, 4:52 pm, Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > That's a really good idea! (wrap from the ends, tuck under the hoods).
>
> > I left my Viva tape "unfinished" for almost a year, and it didn't
> > unroll. After a while, I wrapped with copper 
> > wire:http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/4510906281/
>
> >  Philip
>
> > On Apr 25, 2:22 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:56 PM, velomann  wrote:
> > > > "have any of y'all glued the ends of cloth tape in place?
> > > >> Or shellacked it in place?"
>
> > > > I start on the top of the bar and wrap toward the ends, make a neat
> > > > tuck, plug it with a wine cork, and shellac the whole thing. Slap a
> > > > new coat on every year or so and it doesn't unravel - much more
> > > > durable than cork wrap. And beats cork in the "beausage" department
> > > > every time.
>
> > > I start at the center of the bar and at the bar end and wrap to the
> > > brake hood. Then I tuck everything in under the hood and it stays.
>
> > > I know it's cheating but it seems to work pretty well.
>
> > > -sv
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Mike

I like to read. John McPhee is a favorite. His name and references to
his book Coming Into the Country have appeared in the RR on more than
one occasion if I remember correctly.

There's lots of Rivish stuff I can appreciate like fly fishing,
hiking, backpacking, craftwork, etc but my time is limited and I just
love cycling so I pretty much stick with that for "hobbies".

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread wile

Agreed - I don't collect fountain pens except for use, and use them
fairly exclusively.  I also brew my own beer.

Dylan

On Apr 26, 7:48 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Bruce  wrote:
> > Fountain pen restoration/collecting
>
> I don't restore them but I use them  fairly exclusively. But I used
> them before I discovered rivendell.
>
> I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a
> riv'ish hobby.
>
> Does gardening count? Probably not.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread rswatson

Is eating a hobby?

Ride to eat, eat to ride!



On Apr 26, 2010, at 9:29 AM, JoelMatthews  wrote:

>> Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that
> centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient,
> fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand
> it.
> 
> Agree.  Self supporting and sustainable.
> 
> I don't have a yard, so gardening is out.  I do collect old tools,
> some of which come in handy when working on the Riv.  All of which
> make clear that while technology inevitably marches along, those who
> came before us knew a thing or two about getting things done.
> 
> On Apr 26, 10:13 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
>> Seth Vidal wrote:
>> 
>> I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a
>> riv'ish hobby.
>> 
>> Does gardening count? Probably not.
>> 
>> -sv
>> 
>> ===
>> 
>> Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that
>> centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient,
>> fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it.
>> 
>> Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes,
>> yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers
>> himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny
>> Austin ³Green Acres² Texas
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[RBW] Re: Paul racer M's

2010-04-26 Thread Michael_S

I chose the Racers for my new custom as well, the originals in the
brazed on version. With a custom front rack using the special front
bolts as well. The bike is at Spectrum Powder right now getting
finished.

...also have the Touring canti's on my new Hillborne, which work
superbly.

~Mike~



On Apr 26, 7:32 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Didn't know that, cool.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
> > I'm pretty excited about these brakes too; So much that I have speced the
> > braze-on version for an incoming custom.
>
> > And then there is the love I have for my neo-retros on another bike. Best
> > cantis out there.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Dustin Sharp
> > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > On 4/26/10 5:29 AM, "MichaelH"  wrote:
>
> > > I (quite literally) owe my life to my neo-retros; that's why I speced
> > > the racers on my new tandem and will convert my Rambouillet to Racer
> > > Ms, as soon as I get the scratch. Growing old stinks, but it still
> > > beats the alternative.
> > > Michael
>
> > > On Apr 26, 2:01 am, paul  wrote:
> > >> These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have
> > >> on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love
> > >> these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs
> > >> hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter
> > >> how hard you pull. I am biased, duh, but this is a product I am really
> > >> proud of.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:43 AM,  wrote:

> Is eating a hobby?
>
> Only if you do it yourself.

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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

This post has me thinking about guitars, fly fishing, and cycling.
Long before I bought a Riv I acquired a taste for woody Martin guitars
and and favored my Winston traditional trout rod over my Sage
artillery pieces.  My fly boxes are adorned with modern bead-headed
and foam flies (trout bling), but I prefer to tie furry little
traditional bugs.  80% of the trout I catch fall for traditional
nymphs and dries.  In a way, those things opened me up to owning a
Rivendell and not the other way around.

That said, I wouldn't trade my gore-tex waders for old rubber chest
waders.  I play a very nice Taylor guitar when I have to plug in or
want it to be loud and bright.  I will fish my fast action fly rods
when the situation demands--i.e. when casting heavy streamers to
steelhead or big trout in big water, but just because I can cast 70
feet of shooting head with this gear doesn't mean I love doing it, nor
does it bring me more pleasure than a well placed thirty foot cast
that drops a size 18 Adams into a slot six inches wide and three feet
long. The point, I suppose, is to be objective about new technology
and its so called advantages.  Sometimes the advantages are real, but
often its just hype to get you to buy another version of something you
already have or an attempt to push everyone to the extreme edge of
their hobby or sport.

Do enjoy that new bamboo rod--I'm sure its a lovely reed.  What are
the specifics of the rod (wt., length) and what reel did you put on
it?

And noting the other posts--I use a fountain pen.  I think gardening
counts and I don't know why something as practical as sewing wouldn't
count as well.

D.G.

On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
> Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a
> riv'ish hobby.
>
> Does gardening count? Probably not.
>
> -sv
>
> ===
>
> Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that
> centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient,
> fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it.
>
> Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes,
> yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers
> himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny
> Austin ³Green Acres² Texas
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

Wow.  I mean really, wow.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Bruce  wrote:

> I like it okay, but that Brandywine Red is what I'm going for when my sage
> green one needs a re-do.
>
>  http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc307-iankersey0507.html
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> That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!
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[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question

On Apr 26, 9:13 am, "Darin G."  wrote:
> I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers
> nicely.  I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of
> the newer therma-rest pads.  The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed
> and could go in a pannier or sit on top.

4 inches x 9 inches?  How wide and long is it when it is inflated?

> A down sleeping bag in a
> waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well.  I have
> already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight
> and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a
> loaf of bread

In my opinion, down is only appropriate for snowy climates.   If you
get down wet, it won't work anymore.  The first time you ever try to
wash and then dry a down sleeping bag or jacket, you will realize the
world of hurt you will be in if you get one wet.  They take longer
than a week to dry out.


>
> If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack.  No
> horseshoe there.
>

Thanks.

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[RBW] Speed Up My Sam

Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.

I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.

So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.

D.G.

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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

I lived in Alaska for 13 years. There is no better read than Coming
Into the Country.  Just thinking about it makes me unbearably
homesick.

D.G.

On Apr 26, 9:36 am, Mike  wrote:
> I like to read. John McPhee is a favorite. His name and references to
> his book Coming Into the Country have appeared in the RR on more than
> one occasion if I remember correctly.
>
> There's lots of Rivish stuff I can appreciate like fly fishing,
> hiking, backpacking, craftwork, etc but my time is limited and I just
> love cycling so I pretty much stick with that for "hobbies".
>
> --mike
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

On Apr 26, 8:41 am, Bridgestone  wrote:
>
> I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
> class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
> (hell yes, pun intended!)
>

Nice.  They are beautiful, aren't they?  Making one yourself and then
fishing it with flies you tied yourself must be the ultimate fly
fishing experience.

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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

By the way, did you ever see the pictures of the Vanilla fishing bike?

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Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam

Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go
with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest
rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too
delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the
events you mentioned.

If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm
from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a
little bit less drag.

You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole
Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the
Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).

Have fun!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:

> Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> D.G.
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Re: [RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Bill Connell

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Bridgestone  wrote:
> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>
> I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
> class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
> (hell yes, pun intended!)


I've always been a DIY tinkerer, and this winter added sewing to my
many hobbies. I've also built some of my own furniture, my own LED
lights, and a bike trailer from cut-up frames (nearly done). I have an
old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a spare
weekend.

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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs.

Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of
this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what
convinced me I was through with the Roubaix.

D.G.

On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go
> with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest
> rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too
> delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the
> events you mentioned.
>
> If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm
> from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a
> little bit less drag.
>
> You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole
> Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the
> Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
>
> Have fun!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
> > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> > D.G.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

That's the rub, isn't it.  Comfort vs. efficiency/aerodynamics.

I don't know what you'll feel about the looks, but the Velocity Nuvian
wheelset  is built
with Aerohead rims.

Arm-chair quarterback mode off.

Cheers,
David

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Darin G.  wrote:

> Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs.
>
> Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of
> this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what
> convinced me I was through with the Roubaix.
>
> D.G.
>
> On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either
> go
> > with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest
> > rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too
> > delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the
> > events you mentioned.
> >
> > If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2
> cm
> > from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get
> a
> > little bit less drag.
> >
> > You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole
> > Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the
> > Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
> > > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> > > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
> >
> > > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> > > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> > > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> > > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> > > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> > > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> > > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> > > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> > > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
> >
> > > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> > > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> > > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> > > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
> >
> > > D.G.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

Here's a link for the wheels in other than black 32 spoke.  Another lister
found these and is giving them a try.

http://www.bikemania.biz/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VeloCity_Nuvian&Click=15344


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:36 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

> That's the rub, isn't it.  Comfort vs. efficiency/aerodynamics.
>
> I don't know what you'll feel about the looks, but the Velocity Nuvian
> wheelset  is built
> with Aerohead rims.
>
> Arm-chair quarterback mode off.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
>
>> Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs.
>>
>> Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of
>> this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what
>> convinced me I was through with the Roubaix.
>>
>> D.G.
>>
>> On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> > Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either
>> go
>> > with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest
>> > rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too
>> > delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the
>> > events you mentioned.
>> >
>> > If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2
>> cm
>> > from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get
>> a
>> > little bit less drag.
>> >
>> > You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole
>> > Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the
>> > Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
>> >
>> > Have fun!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
>> > > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
>> > > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>> >
>> > > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
>> > > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
>> > > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
>> > > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
>> > > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
>> > > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
>> > > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
>> > > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
>> > > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>> >
>> > > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
>> > > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
>> > > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
>> > > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>> >
>> > > D.G.
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>> >
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>> > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread MichaelH

Well that's a pretty heavy rim & tire combo.  Remember it is the
wheels you have to accelerate, so weight taken off there will yield
the most benefit.  I'd consider a second set of wheels.  If you can
afford it White Hubs, Open Pro rims, 32 spokes with some Michelin 25mm
tires.  That will help you accelerate when you need to stay with the
group, and will be zippier going uphill, which is where you are
probably loosing the pace.  Ride with your current wheels every day
and switch to the lighter ones for longer events.

Michael

On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, "Darin G."  wrote:
> Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs.
>
> Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of
> this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what
> convinced me I was through with the Roubaix.
>
> D.G.
>
> On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go
> > with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest
> > rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too
> > delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the
> > events you mentioned.
>
> > If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm
> > from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a
> > little bit less drag.
>
> > You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole
> > Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the
> > Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
>
> > Have fun!
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
> > > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> > > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> > > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> > > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> > > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> > > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> > > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> > > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> > > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> > > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> > > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> > > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> > > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> > > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> > > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> > > D.G.
>
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>
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> > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
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[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question

The NeoAir inflated is 72 X 20.

Agreed that the down sleeping bag is worthless when wet which is why a
waterproof stuff-sack is mandatory.  I've backpacked, sea kayaked,
biked and river rafted in miserable wet weather in the Rockies and
Alaska, and never had a problem. That said you do need to be
thoughtful about packing it and keeping it dry and you need a very
high degree of confidence in your tent.  A down sleeping bag will also
last much longer than a comparable synthetic (I put the lifespan of a
heavily used synthetic at around 5 years, even if kept in a storage
bag).  For me the comfort and weight savings are worth it.  Others
reasonably reach a different conclusion.  If you're going to be driven
to distraction by the thought of a down bag getting wet go with the
synthetic.

D.G.

On Apr 26, 10:06 am, happyriding  wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:13 am, "Darin G."  wrote:
>
> > I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers
> > nicely.  I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of
> > the newer therma-rest pads.  The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed
> > and could go in a pannier or sit on top.
>
> 4 inches x 9 inches?  How wide and long is it when it is inflated?
>
> > A down sleeping bag in a
> > waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well.  I have
> > already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight
> > and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a
> > loaf of bread
>
> In my opinion, down is only appropriate for snowy climates.   If you
> get down wet, it won't work anymore.  The first time you ever try to
> wash and then dry a down sleeping bag or jacket, you will realize the
> world of hurt you will be in if you get one wet.  They take longer
> than a week to dry out.
>
>
>
> > If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack.  No
> > horseshoe there.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread Sean Whelan

Wheels are definitely a good place to start. Even Mavic Aksium Wheelsets which 
run around $250 can give you a lighter / slightly aero wheel.

Put some 25mm lightweight tires on them, and only use them on your fast rides.

You will likely feel the difference, especially if there is a lot of climbing 
involved.

Can you post the full spec of your bike? Hard to suggest when you have no other 
info...

Cheers,
Sean

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, MichaelH  wrote:

From: MichaelH 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:40 PM

Well that's a pretty heavy rim & tire combo.  Remember it is the
wheels you have to accelerate, so weight taken off there will yield
the most benefit.  I'd consider a second set of wheels.  If you can
afford it White Hubs, Open Pro rims, 32 spokes with some Michelin 25mm
tires.  That will help you accelerate when you need to stay with the
group, and will be zippier going uphill, which is where you are
probably loosing the pace.  Ride with your current wheels every day
and switch to the lighter ones for longer events.

Michael

On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, "Darin G."  wrote:
> Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs.
>
> Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of
> this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what
> convinced me I was through with the Roubaix.
>
> D.G.
>
> On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go
> > with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest
> > rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too
> > delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the
> > events you mentioned.
>
> > If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm
> > from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a
> > little bit less drag.
>
> > You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole
> > Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the
> > Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
>
> > Have fun!
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
> > > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> > > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> > > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> > > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> > > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> > > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> > > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> > > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> > > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> > > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> > > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> > > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> > > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> > > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> > > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> > > D.G.
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

Full spec:  Nitto stem, Nitto post, Shimano Bar ends, Sugino 46-36-24,
11 X 32, Deore XT rear, Nitto Mini Front, Nitto Big Rack rear (may
replace with a top rack for summer commuting), Shimano cantis.

Pic here:  http://gallery.me.com/dbgoff#18

D.G.

On Apr 26, 10:43 am, Sean Whelan  wrote:
> Wheels are definitely a good place to start. Even Mavic Aksium Wheelsets 
> which run around $250 can give you a lighter / slightly aero wheel.
>
> Put some 25mm lightweight tires on them, and only use them on your fast rides.
>
> You will likely feel the difference, especially if there is a lot of climbing 
> involved.
>
> Can you post the full spec of your bike? Hard to suggest when you have no 
> other info...
>
> Cheers,
> Sean
>
> --- On Mon, 4/26/10, MichaelH  wrote:
>
> From: MichaelH 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:40 PM
>
> Well that's a pretty heavy rim & tire combo.  Remember it is the
> wheels you have to accelerate, so weight taken off there will yield
> the most benefit.  I'd consider a second set of wheels.  If you can
> afford it White Hubs, Open Pro rims, 32 spokes with some Michelin 25mm
> tires.  That will help you accelerate when you need to stay with the
> group, and will be zippier going uphill, which is where you are
> probably loosing the pace.  Ride with your current wheels every day
> and switch to the lighter ones for longer events.
>
> Michael
>
> On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, "Darin G."  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs.
>
> > Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of
> > this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what
> > convinced me I was through with the Roubaix.
>
> > D.G.
>
> > On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either 
> > > go
> > > with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest
> > > rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too
> > > delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the
> > > events you mentioned.
>
> > > If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm
> > > from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a
> > > little bit less drag.
>
> > > You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole
> > > Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the
> > > Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
>
> > > Have fun!
>
> > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
> > > > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> > > > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> > > > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> > > > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> > > > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> > > > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> > > > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> > > > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> > > > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> > > > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> > > > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> > > > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> > > > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> > > > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> > > > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> > > > D.G.
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

> I have an old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a 
> spare
> weekend.

Love audio tubes.  What make?  This will be fun.

On Apr 26, 11:19 am, Bill Connell  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Bridgestone  wrote:
> > You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> > owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>
> > I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
> > class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
> > (hell yes, pun intended!)
>
> I've always been a DIY tinkerer, and this winter added sewing to my
> many hobbies. I've also built some of my own furniture, my own LED
> lights, and a bike trailer from cut-up frames (nearly done). I have an
> old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a spare
> weekend.
>
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[RBW] horseshoe rackthing's function

2010-04-26 Thread Grant Petersen

It prevents a load from the center wire of a canti- or centerpull brake,
mainly. Also helps locate the load on the platform, so it doesn't scoot
into  or above the brake itself, so you can work on the brake on a loaded
bike. Often used as a lash-point, as someone pointed out. You can cut it off
(would prolly regret it at some point) an soft-cap the jutting-up stumps
with something.

A sleeping pad is soft and can fold at the 'shoe, and shoot upward...or ukin
hang it out rearward, since it's too light to cause a problem if it sticks
way out. Just thoughts and a fact or two.
I think all rear racks have some sort of abutment there.

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Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread James Dinneen

I would think that over 100 miles, the comfort of a Riv would make up for fewer 
ounces on the bike. However, I am thinking that Rodeo would be a good option 
for your future  .    Jim D.   Massachusetts

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, cyclotourist  wrote:

From: cyclotourist 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:17 PM

Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go 
with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest rolling 
tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too delicate for 
day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the events you 
mentioned.

If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm from 
where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a little 
bit less drag.  

You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole Velocity 
Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the Cypres... you'd be 
set (maybe).

Have fun!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:

Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.

I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.

So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.

D.G.

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[RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace

2010-04-26 Thread Joe Bernard

In my curved-bar days, I preferred both. Silver friction front, DA
index rear. I tried Silver friction on the rear for a while.
Definitely smooth and silent, but I was never able to warm up to
friction on the rear, especially when shifting over two or three cogs
at a time. I hate missed shifts, and I don't have the patience to
manually perfect a perfect shift that can easily be done with accurate
clicks. If that makes me lazy, well..my average speed would back that
up.

On Apr 25, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or down
> tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My only
> complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level of
> my top-tube-mounted pump, but that's not their fault.
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[RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

2010-04-26 Thread Calm54

The dura ace shifters is just what I am use to, the SRAM levers are
good for smaller hands.   Otherwise, a typical RIV build...  I
wondered if I would notice a difference over my Surly LHT, there is a
noticeable difference in ride.

On Apr 25, 11:29 pm, happyriding  wrote:
> Yahooo!  A new bike!  I love the fenders and basket.  Well done!
>
> Ah hah!  I spy dura-ace bar end shifters instead of silvers...and SRAM
> brake levers.  Can you explain?
>
> Thanks
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread kps

i'm a female who enjoys (in no particular order):

bicycles and bicycling (i have five bicyles, with two more to arrive
soon, which folks say
is more than i'm supposed to have, being female. I love tinkering
with them, too.  they are great tools and works of art, imo.)  all my
bikes are steel, yes.

i should receive my NEW Roadeo frame (RCP, which is also something a
female isn't 'supposed' to want ) this week.
i'm excited about this!

photography (old film Leicas, especially)

guitars (both for fun and because it's my business).  i am especially
fond of old Gibson L-00s.

songwriting

reading

fountain pens (i use and old sheaffer and a newer OMAS) and good bags
(i'm a bag lady, i guess), both new and vintage.

oh, and cats.  i have three rescues.  i would give up anything i own
to keep/save my animals.

-k

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> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Seth Vidal

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM, kps  wrote:
> i'm a female who enjoys (in no particular order):
>
> bicycles and bicycling (i have five bicyles, with two more to arrive
> soon, which folks say
> is more than i'm supposed to have, being female. I love tinkering
> with them, too.  they are great tools and works of art, imo.)  all my
> bikes are steel, yes.
>
> i should receive my NEW Roadeo frame (RCP, which is also something a
> female isn't 'supposed' to want ) this week.
> i'm excited about this!

I don't recall Grant's 'How many bikes do you need' being
gender-specific so I'd say you're getting close to the right number of
bikes. :)

-sv

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RE: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

Here's the inspiration for that color, for what it's worth...at least, the 
inspiration for me to ask Grant to come up with the color when I ordered my 
Saluki from the first batch...my good friend Grub!
 
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376997200_226832d7ab.jpg  
  
  
 
 
Steve

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!


That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August < justinaug...@gmail.com> wrote:


How do you like the SRAM levers?


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> My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
> specials.
>
> Pics at :   http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129
>
> Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

cat-dog collabo!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Frederick, Steve <
frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:

>  Here's the inspiration for that color, for what it's worth...at least,
> the inspiration for me to ask Grant to come up with the color when I ordered
> my Saluki from the first batch...my good friend Grub!
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376997200_226832d7ab.jpg
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
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> rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *cyclotourist
> *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:41 AM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
>
> That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August wrote:
>
>> How do you like the SRAM levers?
>>
>> On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54  wrote:
>> > My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
>> > specials.
>> >
>> > Pics at :  http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129
>> >
>> > Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread RoadieRyan

S24O's

Tinkering on old steel 10 speeds

On Apr 26, 10:12 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM, kps  wrote:
> > i'm a female who enjoys (in no particular order):
>
> > bicycles and bicycling (i have five bicyles, with two more to arrive
> > soon, which folks say
> > is more than i'm supposed to have, being female. I love tinkering
> > with them, too.  they are great tools and works of art, imo.)  all my
> > bikes are steel, yes.
>
> > i should receive my NEW Roadeo frame (RCP, which is also something a
> > female isn't 'supposed' to want ) this week.
> > i'm excited about this!
>
> I don't recall Grant's 'How many bikes do you need' being
> gender-specific so I'd say you're getting close to the right number of
> bikes. :)
>
> -sv
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread William

I make stuff by hand and have a store on etsy.

On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone  wrote:
> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>
> I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
> class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
> (hell yes, pun intended!)
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[RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

2010-04-26 Thread William

Congrats!  That's my favorite Saluki color

On Apr 25, 10:10 pm, Calm54  wrote:
> My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread William

I'm building a lighter wheelset for my Sam (32 hole, narrower rims) to
use interchangeably with the 36 hole bombers I have now.  In addition
to that I'm planning to pull the racks and fenders for fair weather
events.

On Apr 26, 9:10 am, "Darin G."  wrote:
> Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> D.G.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Bill Gibson

Busted. All of the above, except for guitar, and the fact that fly
fishing in the lower Sonoran desert scrub doesn't make much sense
right now. I make my flies, too, when I live near water. Someday,
soon, again. Time is a problem lately. Add Photography! I've ridden my
bikes to fish and photograph and eat, etc. I used to have a saddlebag
spray-painted white to reflect sun, to keep things from cooking too
soon. Just back from an S24O with 9 middle-schoolers from "South
Phoenix", which is very urban in a suburban way.

Now, these aren't "hobbies", folks, theses are just ways to be alive.
Some of many. I also like to learn the names and ways of flowers,
rocks, and the other critters I amuse as I blunder through. Visual and
Mental Astronomy. I am reviving an old interest in what some call
"traditional crafts/bushcraft/wildcraft/woodscraft". Making cordage.
Basket weaving. Wood carving. Whittling. Scout stuff?

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:18 AM, William  wrote:
> I make stuff by hand and have a store on etsy.
>
> On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone  wrote:
>> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
>> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>>
>> I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
>> class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
>> (hell yes, pun intended!)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Bill Connell

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:51 AM, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>> I have an old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a 
>> spare
>> weekend.
>
> Love audio tubes.  What make?  This will be fun.

It's a GE, probably early 60s, it was my grandfather's garage radio
for as long as i could remember, rescued from my mom's basement. It's
in working order, but the capacitors are obviously shot. I have the
schematics and a radio shop nearby, i just need to get started.
Looking forward to being able to use it again.

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Re: [RBW] Tom Milton of Selle Anatomica

2010-04-26 Thread CycloFiend

The California Triple Crown  blog has  created an entry for folks to share
stories and reminisces -
http://caltriplecrown.blogspot.com/2010/04/tom-milton-you-will-be-missed.htm

or

http://tinyurl.com/tom-milton

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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread soqer...@gmail.com

Shoot things with feathers
Eat them
Use feathers to tie flies
Catch trout
Eat them

On Apr 26, 7:41 am, Bridgestone  wrote:
> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>
> I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
> class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
> (hell yes, pun intended!)
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

If the Roadeo had rack mounts I'd consider it, at least for a rear
with a trunk bag.  I guess I could put a big Arkel handlebar bag on it
or something.  As is, waiting to see if the Amos comes to be as the
Roadeo is some serious cheddar for me right now.

D.G.

On Apr 26, 10:57 am, James Dinneen  wrote:
> I would think that over 100 miles, the comfort of a Riv would make up for 
> fewer ounces on the bike. However, I am thinking that Rodeo would be a good 
> option for your future  .    Jim D.   Massachusetts
>
> --- On Mon, 4/26/10, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> From: cyclotourist 
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:17 PM
>
> Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go 
> with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest 
> rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too 
> delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the 
> events you mentioned.
>
> If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm 
> from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a 
> little bit less drag. 
>
> You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole Velocity 
> Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the Cypres... you'd 
> be set (maybe).
>
> Have fun!
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
>
> Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> D.G.
>
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

> Looking forward to being able to use it again.

I am sure it will sound great.

On Apr 26, 12:34 pm, Bill Connell  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:51 AM, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> >> I have an old tube radio that i'm planning to rebuild (recap) when i get a 
> >> spare
> >> weekend.
>
> > Love audio tubes.  What make?  This will be fun.
>
> It's a GE, probably early 60s, it was my grandfather's garage radio
> for as long as i could remember, rescued from my mom's basement. It's
> in working order, but the capacitors are obviously shot. I have the
> schematics and a radio shop nearby, i just need to get started.
> Looking forward to being able to use it again.
>
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> St. Paul, MN
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[RBW] Re: horseshoe rackthing's function

Thanks Grant.  Pretty much what I thought.

On Apr 26, 11:54 am, Grant Petersen  wrote:
> It prevents a load from the center wire of a canti- or centerpull brake,
> mainly. Also helps locate the load on the platform, so it doesn't scoot
> into  or above the brake itself, so you can work on the brake on a loaded
> bike. Often used as a lash-point, as someone pointed out. You can cut it off
> (would prolly regret it at some point) an soft-cap the jutting-up stumps
> with something.
>
> A sleeping pad is soft and can fold at the 'shoe, and shoot upward...or ukin
> hang it out rearward, since it's too light to cause a problem if it sticks
> way out. Just thoughts and a fact or two.
> I think all rear racks have some sort of abutment there.
>
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread RoadieRyan

Darin

I will preface this by saying I am fortunate to have two bikes; a
Steel bike with 36h Rims/35c Pasela's racks front and rear etc for
comfort riding and a Cannondale R800 stripped down for faster rides
but before I picked up my steel ride I tired to make my R800 an all
rounder with mixed results.

If I was in your shoes with only the one bike for the near term and
wanting to go faster, I would think about the following for the "event
rides":

-ditch the rear rack
-swap the Sugino for compact 50/34 double, maybe a square taper FSA
Vero or even a Campy Veloce.  That would drop weight and give you some
taller gears
-Go with the Mavic Aksium's as the "racy" wheelset.  I have them on my
go fast bike and even for a Clydesdale like me they work fine and feel
zippy paired with the 700/25c tire of your choice (I use Continental
gatorskins)
- Save for the Roadeo or AMOS/San Marcos

My steel bike, a Handsome Devil, is set up very much like your Sam and
I am easily a couple miles and hour faster on the go fast bike over
the same course.  Although to be honest when I am riding the Handsome
Devil its not about going fast ;-)

Good luck

Ryan

On Apr 26, 10:53 am, "Darin G."  wrote:
> If the Roadeo had rack mounts I'd consider it, at least for a rear
> with a trunk bag.  I guess I could put a big Arkel handlebar bag on it
> or something.  As is, waiting to see if the Amos comes to be as the
> Roadeo is some serious cheddar for me right now.
>
> D.G.
>
> On Apr 26, 10:57 am, James Dinneen  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I would think that over 100 miles, the comfort of a Riv would make up for 
> > fewer ounces on the bike. However, I am thinking that Rodeo would be a good 
> > option for your future  .    Jim D.   Massachusetts
>
> > --- On Mon, 4/26/10, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > From: cyclotourist 
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:17 PM
>
> > Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go 
> > with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest 
> > rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too 
> > delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the 
> > events you mentioned.
>
> > If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm 
> > from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a 
> > little bit less drag. 
>
> > You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole 
> > Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the 
> > Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
>
> > Have fun!
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
>
> > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> > D.G.
>
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread RoadieRyan

Forgot to add Nice looking SAM!  looks like a great all around ride

On Apr 26, 10:53 am, "Darin G."  wrote:
> If the Roadeo had rack mounts I'd consider it, at least for a rear
> with a trunk bag.  I guess I could put a big Arkel handlebar bag on it
> or something.  As is, waiting to see if the Amos comes to be as the
> Roadeo is some serious cheddar for me right now.
>
> D.G.
>
> On Apr 26, 10:57 am, James Dinneen  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I would think that over 100 miles, the comfort of a Riv would make up for 
> > fewer ounces on the bike. However, I am thinking that Rodeo would be a good 
> > option for your future  .    Jim D.   Massachusetts
>
> > --- On Mon, 4/26/10, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > From: cyclotourist 
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:17 PM
>
> > Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go 
> > with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest 
> > rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too 
> > delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the 
> > events you mentioned.
>
> > If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm 
> > from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a 
> > little bit less drag. 
>
> > You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole 
> > Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the 
> > Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).
>
> > Have fun!
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G.  wrote:
>
> > Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> > bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
>
> > I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> > slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> > I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> > fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> > my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> > than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> > want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> > difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> > take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
>
> > So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> > I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> > can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> > I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
>
> > D.G.
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread CycloFiend

on 4/26/10 9:10 AM, Darin G. at dbg...@mac.com wrote:

> Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my
> bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
> 
> I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
> 
> So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.

Pedaling faster has always sped me up... ;^)

Actually, that may be a place to look.  If you came back from a "typical"
road gearing setup, it may just be that you are in lower gears than what
your body remembers. The muscle memory in your legs, which may have been
cultivated by a few years at "X" cadence in gear "Y" - is now all skewed.
Your legs want to chunk along at what they are used to, but that won't move
you along at the same speed.

I've noticed that even though both bikes feel "good", it sometimes takes a
ride or two before I feel quick on the Hilsen or Quickbeam.  There's just
this moment of "yeah!" when the micro adjustment of position and cadence
makes everything feel locked in.  You might play around a little with saddle
setback, bar height.  I'd be careful, not do it before a big, big ride and
take copious notes so you can get back where you started.

One of the things I'll try periodically for a day is to stay in one or two
gears lower (larger sprocket on the cog) than what feels "right".  I then
try to keep the same speed at the resulting higher cadence.  That tends to
reawaken the low pressure, high cadence approach for me. I call these my
"Spinny" rides. 

What kind of terrain are you riding?  Where are you being dropped?

And, your sure your riding buddies just didn't dial down your rear brake so
it's rubbing on the rim?

If you are going to swap gear, I'd try tires before wheels.

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread cm

I would take off the rack for faster rides/ events and maybe get some
narrower tires. Clipless pedals? Then I would smell the flowers. When
you do get a new more specialized bike you will be that much better.

Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Phil Brown

Photography with a Leica.
Phil Brown

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RE: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

Good point!  I don't think "abandoned kitten found on a country road," would 
fit on a headbadge anyway...

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!


cat-dog collabo!


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Frederick, Steve < frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> 
wrote:


Here's the inspiration for that color, for what it's worth...at least, the 
inspiration for me to ask Grant to come up with the color when I ordered my 
Saluki from the first batch...my good friend Grub!
 
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376997200_226832d7ab.jpg  
  
  
 
 

Steve

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!


That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August < justinaug...@gmail.com> wrote:


How do you like the SRAM levers?


On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54 < mukum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
> specials.
>
> Pics at :   http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129
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> Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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Re: [RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Kenneth Stagg

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Bridgestone  wrote:
> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?

Well, I started this before I'd heard of Rivendell but I see
woodworking with antique, hand-powered tools to be complimentary.
Other than chopping mortices it's generally peaceful work with an
unrushed pace.

-Ken

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Re: [RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace

2010-04-26 Thread carnerdavid

You are in good company.  Sheldon Brown said more than once that he preferred 
indexed shifting for the rear derailer.
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:35:04 
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace

In my curved-bar days, I preferred both. Silver friction front, DA
index rear. I tried Silver friction on the rear for a while.
Definitely smooth and silent, but I was never able to warm up to
friction on the rear, especially when shifting over two or three cogs
at a time. I hate missed shifts, and I don't have the patience to
manually perfect a perfect shift that can easily be done with accurate
clicks. If that makes me lazy, well..my average speed would back that
up.

On Apr 25, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or down
> tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My only
> complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level of
> my top-tube-mounted pump, but that's not their fault.
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread jinxed

I tinker with old watches ad am getting into recycling old leather
into watch straps.

Shave with a 1950's DE Gillette Superspeed.

Sewing, although not as much since I had to sell my Bernina 950 due to
space issues.

Woodblock printing.

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[RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Dustin Sharp

Apparently off-topic posting to bike lists is chief among the hobbies that
complement Riv lifestyles.

;)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

Maybe in Latin?

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Frederick, Steve <
frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:

>  Good point!  I don't think "abandoned kitten found on a country road,"
> would fit on a headbadge anyway...
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *cyclotourist
> *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 1:15 PM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
>
> cat-dog collabo!
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Frederick, Steve <
> frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Here's the inspiration for that color, for what it's worth...at least,
>> the inspiration for me to ask Grant to come up with the color when I ordered
>> my Saluki from the first batch...my good friend Grub!
>>
>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376997200_226832d7ab.jpg
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *cyclotourist
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:41 AM
>> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
>>
>>  That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August wrote:
>>
>>> How do you like the SRAM levers?
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54  wrote:
>>> > My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
>>> > specials.
>>> >
>>> > Pics at :  http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129
>>> >
>>> > Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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Re: [RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

Craft beer sampling has always been high on my list of Rivendell related
hobbies.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Dustin Sharp  wrote:

> Apparently off-topic posting to bike lists is chief among the hobbies that
> complement Riv lifestyles.
>
> ;)
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> Dustin Sharp
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[RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

2010-04-26 Thread JL

Great bike!  Is that a 47cm?  I have to say my saluki is one of my
favorite bikes to ride.

On Apr 26, 12:39 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Maybe in Latin?
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Frederick, Steve <
>
>
>
> frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:
> >  Good point!  I don't think "abandoned kitten found on a country road,"
> > would fit on a headbadge anyway...
>
> > -Original Message-
> > *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *cyclotourist
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 1:15 PM
> > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
>
> > cat-dog collabo!
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Frederick, Steve <
> > frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >>  Here's the inspiration for that color, for what it's worth...at least,
> >> the inspiration for me to ask Grant to come up with the color when I 
> >> ordered
> >> my Saluki from the first batch...my good friend Grub!
>
> >>http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376997200_226832d7ab.jpg
>
> >> Steve
>
> >>  -Original Message-
> >> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> >> rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *cyclotourist
> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:41 AM
> >> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
>
> >>  That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!
>
> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August 
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> How do you like the SRAM levers?
>
> >>> On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54  wrote:
> >>> > My Saluki arrive from Rivendell.  I bought one of the frame
> >>> > specials.
>
> >>> > Pics at :  http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129
>
> >>> > Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Mojo

Interesting replies. For me, cycling has been part of an aerobic
outdoors lifestyle that included running, hiking, climbing, and cross-
country skiing. Clean oxygen-fed sport as XCZone.tv has called it. I
know longer do the running or climbing. But the Riv/BOB bent was a
decision to keep the gear less complicated and more sane, and less
expensive. I think I have lost track of that at times as I have
fiddled with fenders and racks and lighting, and god-forbid, twine. I
have purposely decided to get back to keeping it simple and letting
the experience be the hobby instead of the gear. So for me, hobbies
that compliment my Riv lifestyle are less gear purchase and play, and
more riding, hiking, and skiing.

On Apr 26, 8:41 am, Bridgestone  wrote:
> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>
> I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
> class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
> (hell yes, pun intended!)
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread kps


hey seth,

funny, i hadn't thought about grant's comment that seven is a good
number of bikes. 
i guess i said 'more than i'm supposed to have' because of an earlier
thread i ran across a few days ago (a thread from back in 2007, i
think) where beth h. was mentioning that it's more rare than not for
females to have more than one bike, and when they have a bike, they
are mostly just happy to ride it and 1. don't tinker with it or 2. buy
more bikes.  i'd say it's safe to say that i am just outside that
particular box, that's all. ;-)

there's no right or wrong, obviously, and the actual riding's the best
part of all.  i just happen to like bikes and have more than one (or
two).

i really do appreciate everyone on this list, and the fact that
regardless of our particular passions, we all have 'em, and we all
seem to appreciate things that work well, are well-built and LAST.

-k


> I don't recall Grant's 'How many bikes do you need' being
> gender-specific so I'd say you're getting close to the right number of
> bikes. :)
>
> -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace

2010-04-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE

The shifter knocks the pump off the frame.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:24 AM, JoelMatthews  wrote:

> > And why is that bad?
>
> Dings, dents, scratches.
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> On Apr 26, 6:10 am, happyriding  wrote:
> > On Apr 25, 8:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
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> > > The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or
> down
> > > tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My
> only
> > > complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level
> of
> > > my top-tube-mounted pump...
> >
> > And why is that bad?
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Re: [RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace

2010-04-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Practice helps.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> In my curved-bar days, I preferred both. Silver friction front, DA
> index rear. I tried Silver friction on the rear for a while.
> Definitely smooth and silent, but I was never able to warm up to
> friction on the rear, especially when shifting over two or three cogs
> at a time. I hate missed shifts, and I don't have the patience to
> manually perfect a perfect shift that can easily be done with accurate
> clicks. If that makes me lazy, well..my average speed would back that
> up.
>
> On Apr 25, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or
> down
> > tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My only
> > complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level
> of
> > my top-tube-mounted pump, but that's not their fault.
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread Michael_S

haven't you heard it's not the bike it's the motor!  And those fancy
lycra togs will make you look fast too.  hehe.

I would 2nd the other notes... tires and wheels are biggest factor in
my opinion, but I'd use some fast 28-30's.. 25's are too skinny!

other then that... take off excess weight... racks, bags, etc.  helps
aerodynamics too.

~Mike~



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> I would take off the rack for faster rides/ events and maybe get some
> narrower tires. Clipless pedals? Then I would smell the flowers. When
> you do get a new more specialized bike you will be that much better.
>
> Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam

2010-04-26 Thread Mike

Last year I did a super randonneur series on a Hilsen that was set-up
very simillar to your Sam. I had JB blues, a Sugino triple and some
pretty heavy wheels (Salsa Delgados, 36h, XT hubs). While the tires
felt a bit sluggish I only had one flat and overall they're fine. I
had pretty good times last year and really, the only thing holding me
back was myself. Well, maybe the heat and endless climbs on the XTR...
Over the winter I swapped out the triple for a compact double (46/34)
and got some JB greens which feel much nicer than the blues. All my
times are faster this year but the weather is nicer and I'm paying
better attention to staying fueled and hydrated.

As others have suggested you could take off the rear rack. Switching
to JB greens might be good, or Gran Bois. I wouldn't go to 25s though.
Consider Paseals, 32s or 28s. But most of all, just keep pedaling. I
bet on a 200k your Sam will outshine your friend's lightweight racing
style bikes.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread EricP

My wife is still fairly adamant that she only wants one bike.  Have
been able to get her to change that bike, but only after we found a
buyer for the last one.

Like KPS  enjoy photography with a film Leica.  Also  playing
acoustic guitars.  Main one right now is one a friend built.  00 size
rosewood/spruce.  Also have a couple of vintage acoustics and even a
Taylor (gasp!)  For a long time had serious guitar acquisition
syndrome (GAS).  That seems to have replaced in the past few years by
BAS (bicycle acquisition syndome).

Do have a fly rod made by my father in law.  It's CF.  Fine since I
rarely take the time to fish.  Too many other hobbies.  Even then will
grab an ultralight spinning rod have had since I was a kid.

As for bikes, at three right now.  All steel, but only one Riv.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 26, 3:55 pm, kps  wrote:
> hey seth,
>
> funny, i hadn't thought about grant's comment that seven is a good
> number of bikes. 
> i guess i said 'more than i'm supposed to have' because of an earlier
> thread i ran across a few days ago (a thread from back in 2007, i
> think) where beth h. was mentioning that it's more rare than not for
> females to have more than one bike, and when they have a bike, they
> are mostly just happy to ride it and 1. don't tinker with it or 2. buy
> more bikes.  i'd say it's safe to say that i am just outside that
> particular box, that's all. ;-)
>
> there's no right or wrong, obviously, and the actual riding's the best
> part of all.  i just happen to like bikes and have more than one (or
> two).
>
> i really do appreciate everyone on this list, and the fact that
> regardless of our particular passions, we all have 'em, and we all
> seem to appreciate things that work well, are well-built and LAST.
>
> -k
>
> > I don't recall Grant's 'How many bikes do you need' being
> > gender-specific so I'd say you're getting close to the right number of
> > bikes. :)
>
> > -sv
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[RBW] Homer w/ Greens or Homer w/ Blues (was Speed Up Sam)

2010-04-26 Thread James Warren

I know experiences vary, but I gotta point out that I equally love the ride of Homer (AHH) with JB Blues or JB Greens. Can't tell a difference. Amazingly good either way.
-Jim W.
-Original Message- From: cyclotourist Sent: Apr 26, 2010 9:17 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues. Either go with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s. Those are the nicest rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using. I found them too delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the events you mentioned.If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm from where they are as well. Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a little bit less drag. You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim? I'd recommend 28 hole Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out. Those plus the Cypres... you'd be set (maybe).Have fun!
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G. wrote:
Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick mybones over. I'm new to this type of bicycle.I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible. I have aslate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer andI'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly lessfit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (includingmy old Roubaix). I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same coursethan I was on "road bike." I've never been a racer but I really don'twant my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up thedifference with pure horsepower. I'm planning on a second bike totake on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam? Wheels? Tires?I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues. And if it justcan't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers untilI can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.D.G.--You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-- Cheers,DavidRedlands, CA"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!

2010-04-26 Thread James Warren

It would be neat if Saluki and AHH were seasonal things. At certain times of the year or every couple years or whatever, the bike sold by Rivendell would be the Saluki with Saluki decals and that butterscotch. And then after a while, the company would stop selling the Saluki, but sell the AHH in the great original blue, but it would be the same bike functionally. And then after a while, it would change back to the Saluki again...and so on.
-Jim W.
-Original Message- From: cyclotourist Sent: Apr 26, 2010 7:41 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki! That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color!
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August wrote:
How do you like the SRAM levers?

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[RBW] Re: Homer w/ Greens or Homer w/ Blues (was Speed Up Sam)

2010-04-26 Thread wile

Yeah - I couldn't tell a difference either - similar tire life,
similar puncture resistance, equally fun to ride.

On Apr 26, 3:16 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> I know experiences vary, but I gotta point out that I equally love the ride 
> of Homer (AHH) with JB Blues or JB Greens. Can't tell a difference. Amazingly 
> good either way.
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> -Jim W.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cyclotourist
> Sent: Apr 26, 2010 9:17 AM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam
> Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues.  Either go 
> with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s.  Those are the nicest 
> rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using.  I found them too 
> delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the 
> events you mentioned.
> If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm 
> from where they are as well.  Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a 
> little bit less drag. 
> You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim?  I'd recommend 28 hole Velocity 
> Aeroheads if you really want to go all out.  Those plus the Cypres... you'd 
> be set (maybe).
> Have fun!On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin 
> G.wrote:Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please 
> don't pick my
> bones over.  I'm new to this type of bicycle.
> I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible.  I have a
> slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and
> I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less
> fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including
> my old Roubaix).  I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course
> than I was on "road bike."  I've never been a racer but I really don't
> want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the
> difference with pure horsepower.  I'm planning on a second bike to
> take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away.
> So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam?  Wheels?  Tires?
> I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues.  And if it just
> can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until
> I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job.
> D.G.
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Ron MH

I too use a Leica M and shoot black and white film. I've been shooting
since I was about 17 and with a Leica for the last 20+ years.

On Apr 26, 11:35 am, Kenneth Stagg  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Bridgestone  wrote:
> > You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> > owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>
> Well, I started this before I'd heard of Rivendell but I see
> woodworking with antique, hand-powered tools to be complimentary.
> Other than chopping mortices it's generally peaceful work with an
> unrushed pace.
>
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[RBW] hiawatha cyclery print

2010-04-26 Thread Seth Vidal

I assume this is quasi on topic since I found out about the print
here. I got my print from Hiawatha back from the framers today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4556326860/

I think it came out really nicely with the green frame.

Thanks Jim!
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[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle

2010-04-26 Thread Steve

Keeping my fleet of antique Volvos on the road for use when the Riv is
best left in the garage.  My website helps you get your Volvo to a
million miles or beyond:
http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/
Steve

On Apr 26, 9:41 am, Bridgestone  wrote:
> You're an all-steel, tweed, canvas and shellac kind of guy/girl. Has
> owning a Rivendell opened you up to new hobbies?
>
> I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long
> class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now
> (hell yes, pun intended!)
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