[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
To answer Shaun's "completely off-the-topic" question: The Green and Orange Quickbeams were made by National (aka Panasonic). I'm not certain about the silver ones. When I had to fix a flat on my orange Quickbeam, I noticed it had a Panasonic rim strip, a Panasonic tube, and of course a Panaracer tire. Angus On Apr 22, 7:15 pm, Shaun Meehan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM, swenindy wrote: > > > > > Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first > > year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. > > > > swen > > This is completely off-the-topic of the thread but it has me > wondering. Is this accurate? It was my understanding that the > first-year, green QB's (and the subsequent orange and silver ones) > were built by Panasonic. No biggie. Just curious. > > Shaun Meehan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Simple One Proto-Preview-Auction
Especially 64cm types. Proto for sale on the site. http://tinyurl.com/29ogfak -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 22:17 -0700, Brianhef wrote: > The 37 mm are definitely fatter than the 35s. They do have more > grooves in the tread, but that doesn't seem to hurt anything other > than picking up a few more tiny pebbles. I'm riding 37mm Paselas (non- > tourguard) on my Quickbeam and they are my favorite so far. My > impression is the 37mm Pasela sidewalls are noticeably thiner and more > flexible than the bike's original Jack Brown Blues (kevlar-belted, > 3000+ miles and still in good condition), and the ride feels more > cushy and more lively. I was riding 35 mm Pasela Tourguards before I > got the Quickbeam and I liked them fine, but to me 37mm roll better, > both on pavement on rough gravel. Do 37mm Paselas actually exist any more? I've seen listings for the other sizes, but it's been a couple of years since I've seen anyone selling 37mm Paselas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Simple One Proto-Preview-Auction
Added a Flickr Group in anticipation of many more photos: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1377...@n24/ Book it Dano! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
I'd probably just grab some Tektro sidepulls. Sometimes spending the small amount o cash is worth your time. On Apr 23, 1:01 am, manueljohnacosta wrote: > I was lucky to get in possession of a 49cm Le Tour Mixte. I figured > since my girlfriend just recently got a new job, new place, graduated > from college and her birthday was coming up, I figured I should get > her something big. Pink is her favorite color and she enjoys biking. > So I set off building her a bike. Getting most of the parts together I > find myself with a few issues. > 1. Big issue the brakes seem like they are only a few centimeters off. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4545155110/in/set-7215762378... > > 2. The rear brake is a center-pull and needs a longer straddle cable > to clear the seat tube. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4544523125/in/set-7215762378... > > So with the first issue I go to the ROB group for some answers. Any > ideas of making this work? It's SOOO close to fitting. Or should I > just bite the bullet and look for brakes that fit? > > and about the second issue. Anyone have any ideas and where I can find > one? I might check out my local place, Cycle of Change, but never > guaranteed that I can find the part there. Thanks in advance! > Hopefully I can get this worked out. > > -Manny "Bikes aren't always easy" Acosta > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:01 AM, manueljohnacosta wrote: > I was lucky to get in possession of a 49cm Le Tour Mixte. I figured > since my girlfriend just recently got a new job, new place, graduated > from college and her birthday was coming up, I figured I should get > her something big. Pink is her favorite color and she enjoys biking. > So I set off building her a bike. Getting most of the parts together I > find myself with a few issues. > 1. Big issue the brakes seem like they are only a few centimeters off. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4545155110/in/set-72157623789349209/ > > 2. The rear brake is a center-pull and needs a longer straddle cable > to clear the seat tube. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4544523125/in/set-72157623789349209/ > > I'm confused - did you change out the wheels to a different size? I have a le tour mixte http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/3032966994/ and I never had any issue with the brakes - but I left the 27" wheels on there. About the straddle cable, I'd suggest finding a good used bike store and digging through boxes. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Earl Grey wrote: > Shaun, > > what do you find to be the sweet spot for the 38 Racers, and what's > your combined bike/rider/luggage load? > > Gernot > I'm not really sure how much my bike weighs but it's a 68cm Atlantis. I typically don't carry a whole lot of stuff with me. I have a Nitto Top Rack with a Big Loafer, in which I carry tools, tube, pump, rain shell, etc. I weigh about 230 pounds these days. So I would say that the total weight is probably in the neighborhood of 275 pounds. I always default to the max recommended pressure when I inflate my tires on account of my size; so initially I had the Racers inflated to 85 PSI. They rode fine at 85 but I noticed that after they lost some air, they actually rode quite a bit better. The "sweet spot" for me seems to be around 75 PSI. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] more tire info gathering...
Hi, Does anyone have experience mounting the Marathon Supreme 700x50's on a green Sam Hillborne? Riv's site says the bike can take 44mm tires without fenders and the site also says the 50 Supremes measure to be about 45mm on a 22mm rim..so is that one millimeter a deal breaker? Also, what about the new Dureme in 50's? Same thing on a velocity synergy rim? I'm riding 37mm Paselas now with 50mm Berthoud/SKS composite fenders and its a great match, but I want to go as fat as I can without fenders for some light trail riding before my tour from NYC to Montreal at the end of May. I think the 37 Paselas will be just right for that trip. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
Have you tried stretching while on the bike? There are a number of different stretches to do while still moving along, although the best is still to dismount every so often and walk 'em out a bit. In the end, I think some strain and discomfort is inevitable -- at least it is for me -- when pedaling in that position for 100 miles. Note that I refer to strain, not pain. If it's painful, then there are other problems that should be addressed. One other member recently commented that he often raises or lowers h'bars and fiddles with his seat several times during marathon rides. That sounds smart to me. Wish I could give credit to the poster, but I forgot who it was, now. From: happyriding To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 11:43:57 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr On Apr 22, 2:19 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > Not really. I move my hands around a lot to avoid numbness, but that's about > it. I felt great at the end of the 400. > I would be in heaven if I could complete a century without excruciating shoulder/neck and lower back fatigue. Any advice? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
Thanks to folks who responded to my quandry about the Col da la Vie tires. As one of you suggested, I know that Schwalbes would give a surer ride. I have those on two other bikes, and you are correct. In fact, that's what prompted my question to the list because I am used to a stiffer tire. I guess what I meant to ask is does the 650B size have anything to do with the squishy ride, but when I think about it, I know it can't. (?) When I ride to the office this morn, I'll pump those tires up to 50-55 and report back. Several of you apparently disregard the sidewall advisement to max out at 50 lbs. I'll do the same. Thanks to all, so far. Ray From: MikeC To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 6:34:03 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns I also weigh 175 lbs and I ride 700x35 pumped to 65 psi back/55 psi front. Could probably go down to 55 in back, but I wouldn't want to ride on 45 psi. -MikeC On Apr 22, 8:12 pm, Ray wrote: > So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another > list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have > been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's > different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm > Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the > inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal > strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For > those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, > well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, > and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like > cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated > as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I > still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty > much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on > this? > > This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to > Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. > > Regards, > Ray > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
On Apr 23, 6:52 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Do 37mm Paselas actually exist any more? I've seen listings for the > other sizes, but it's been a couple of years since I've seen anyone > selling 37mm Paselas. I received a pair of 37mm Paselas in early March 2010 from Harris Cyclery: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/622.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: grepsalot's Tour
There was a photo taken in North western Idaho, which is east of Montana. At that point she was about 320 miles from Seattle. You might have to look around a bit some more on her site. On Apr 22, 11:53 pm, happyriding wrote: > Has anyone looked at the pictures from her Tour aboard her Atlantis? > I love this one: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13860...@n02/3854802814/ > > There's a picture of a wheel dipping in Maine, and then the pictures > seem to abruptly end in Montana. I hope she got to where she wanted > to go. > > Note the small thumbnail image next to the heading "grepsalot's > photostream"--really poignant. Very inspiring. If you are out there > grepsalot, thank you. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
Hope you like 'em, Ray. I'm quite fond of the CdlV tires. BTW, I recall sidewall listing is the 1/2 way point for the pressure that blows them off the rim. So if blow off =100psi, then they put inflate to 50psi on the sidewall. It isn't the optimum pressure based on weight, conditions, etc. YMMV On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Ray Shine wrote: > Thanks to folks who responded to my quandry about the Col da la Vie tires. > As one of you suggested, I know that Schwalbes would give a surer ride. I > have those on two other bikes, and you are correct. In fact, that's what > prompted my question to the list because I am used to a stiffer tire. I > guess what I meant to ask is does the 650B size have anything to do with the > squishy ride, but when I think about it, I know it can't. (?) > > When I ride to the office this morn, I'll pump those tires up to 50-55 and > report back. Several of you apparently disregard the sidewall advisement to > max out at 50 lbs. I'll do the same. > > Thanks to all, so far. > > Ray > -- > *From:* MikeC > *To:* RBW Owners Bunch > *Sent:* Thu, April 22, 2010 6:34:03 PM > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns > > I also weigh 175 lbs and I ride 700x35 pumped to 65 psi back/55 psi > front. Could probably go down to 55 in back, but I wouldn't want to > ride on 45 psi. > > -MikeC > > On Apr 22, 8:12 pm, Ray wrote: > > So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another > > list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have > > been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's > > different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm > > Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the > > inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal > > strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For > > those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, > > well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, > > and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like > > cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated > > as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I > > still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty > > much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on > > this? > > > > This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to > > Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. > > > > Regards, > > Ray > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+ > unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+ > unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Simple One Proto-Preview-Auction
For the moment it will be a pretty small group... I keep hoping we will hear more info soon and see some more "protos" I'm keeping a space in my garage for one as soon as they are available. ~Mike~ On Apr 23, 3:55 am, Marty wrote: > Added a Flickr Group in anticipation of many more photos: > > http://www.flickr.com/groups/1377...@n24/ > > Book it Dano! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
And to supplement your answer, my understanding is the silver batch was the final Panasonic produced run... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Angus Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:29 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much To answer Shaun's "completely off-the-topic" question: The Green and Orange Quickbeams were made by National (aka Panasonic). I'm not certain about the silver ones. When I had to fix a flat on my orange Quickbeam, I noticed it had a Panasonic rim strip, a Panasonic tube, and of course a Panaracer tire. Angus On Apr 22, 7:15 pm, Shaun Meehan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM, swenindy wrote: > > > > > Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first > > year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. > > > > swen > > This is completely off-the-topic of the thread but it has me > wondering. Is this accurate? It was my understanding that the > first-year, green QB's (and the subsequent orange and silver ones) > were built by Panasonic. No biggie. Just curious. > > Shaun Meehan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Image of Spring Riding
Came across this Hunqapillar image this morning: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikenoir/4539710552/ M "spring riding" Beautiful image! - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
IIRC, all of the Quickbeams were produced by National/Panasonic, which is a fairly large frame shop. Toyo is a much smaller outfit that built the Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, etc.; basically all the other non-customs until the Legolas came along (which was US-built), and then the Taiwan production frames. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Angus wrote: > To answer Shaun's "completely off-the-topic" question: > > The Green and Orange Quickbeams were made by National (aka > Panasonic). I'm not certain about the silver ones. > > When I had to fix a flat on my orange Quickbeam, I noticed it had a > Panasonic rim strip, a Panasonic tube, and of course a Panaracer tire. > > Angus > > On Apr 22, 7:15 pm, Shaun Meehan wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM, swenindy wrote: >> >> > >> > Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first >> > year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. >> > >> > swen >> >> This is completely off-the-topic of the thread but it has me >> wondering. Is this accurate? It was my understanding that the >> first-year, green QB's (and the subsequent orange and silver ones) >> were built by Panasonic. No biggie. Just curious. >> >> Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
Okay. Here it is: LOVELY LUGS RIDE - bring your favorite lugs, steel, shellacked bar tape, leather saddles and comfy, cushy tires to this mellow ride through Inner Eastside Portland. Lovers of Rivendell, Ira Ryan, Bob Brown, Sweetpea and other bike makers who put lugs front and center are invited to join in the fun and mutual appreciation as we roll through the best of urban(e) chic that Portland has to offer. SUNDAY JUNE 6. Meet at noon at Peninsula Park Rose Gardens, NE Ainsworth between Albina and Commercial above the fountain. We'll leave at noon-thirty. DRESS CODE: Please wear clothing. This is NOT the World Naked Ride. Helmets are required in Oregon for riders age 15 and under. (They're a nice idea for everyone else's head.) Bring a sack lunch and we can enjoy a picnic at Sellwood Park before looping back through the Reed College Area. Ride will officially end at Ladd's Circle in SE Portland. (If you've been on the Slug Velo Rose ride in years past, we will follow a slightly extended version of this route, roughly 10-12 miles long.) Anyone wishing to extend the fun may choose to meander over to Lucky Lab for an ad-hoc, apres-lunch celebration. NO NEED TO RSVP. Just show up. (C-M-A Disclaimer: This is NOT an organized ride and there is no leader.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
I would second that, it looks like a weel problem more thna a brake. Those are pretty long reach already. Looks like a fun project though - Rob On Apr 23, 4:49 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:01 AM, manueljohnacosta > > > > > > wrote: > > I was lucky to get in possession of a 49cm Le Tour Mixte. I figured > > since my girlfriend just recently got a new job, new place, graduated > > from college and her birthday was coming up, I figured I should get > > her something big. Pink is her favorite color and she enjoys biking. > > So I set off building her a bike. Getting most of the parts together I > > find myself with a few issues. > > 1. Big issue the brakes seem like they are only a few centimeters off. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4545155110/in/set-7215762378... > > > 2. The rear brake is a center-pull and needs a longer straddle cable > > to clear the seat tube. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4544523125/in/set-7215762378... > > I'm confused - did you change out the wheels to a different size? I > have a le tour mixte > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/3032966994/ > > and I never had any issue with the brakes - but I left the 27" wheels on > there. > > About the straddle cable, I'd suggest finding a good used bike store > and digging through boxes. > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Image of Spring Riding
I was expecting flowers! Using the bike as it was meant, anyway. On Apr 23, 9:58 am, cyclofiend wrote: > Came across this Hunqapillar image this morning: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikenoir/4539710552/ > > M "spring riding" > > Beautiful image! > > - Jim > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2
Please keep that color for the production Simple Ones :) On Apr 22, 6:42 pm, "Dave @ Riv" wrote: > Heads up to the bunch:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
Grant, Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare white elephant or skunk-works products. An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random accidents. I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I think that's how it went). Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of its tusks... Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your legacy. Thanks! Braden On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. If > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over two > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the only > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the farm, > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM, rperks wrote: > I would second that, it looks like a weel problem more thna a brake. > Those are pretty long reach already. Looks like a fun project though Maybe try sliding the wheel forward or back in the dropouts just a bit - there is A LOT of room to slide it around in those dropouts if memory serves. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
on 4/22/10 11:43 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Apr 22, 2:19 pm, Eric Norris wrote: >> Not really. I move my hands around a lot to avoid numbness, but that's about >> it. I felt great at the end of the 400. >> > > I would be in heaven if I could complete a century without > excruciating shoulder/neck and lower back fatigue. Any advice? Shorter/higher stem would be a place to look. You might have someone snap an image of you on the bike from the side, so you see what you are doing. Sometimes, that can be instructive. I've found that the yoga I've been doing over the last year is really paying benefits. Specifically, as I used to tire, my torso would start to "hang" slightly from my shoulder joints. It's a bit tricky to explain rather than show, but you can often notice as your shoulders move up towards your ears. I'm now noticing this before it really starts, and can shift around a bit, rely upon the shoulder muscles that the yoga have helped restore, stack my bones a bit so I'm not relying on the tendons and muscles. That sort of thing. Also, a lot of low back pain has to do with core strength issues - i.e. stomach muscles. Cycling does nothing for your gut, and since the organs are just kind of hanging there, they pull down, exacerbating the problem. Again, the yoga has helped me feel when that's starting to occur. Finally, I'd offer that when you feel the pain, it's too late. You're better off being very proactive, as Ray said, in getting off the bike, stretching a bit, walking around, and moving differently before you start to hurt. Most of the randonneurs I know who do the longer distances all spent some time getting comfortable, and more importantly, staying comfortable, at shorter distances. If you are comfortable, the mileage will take care of itself. hope that helps, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it." -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
Have photos been posted of this mystery frame? I'd like to see what all the hullabaloo is about. Aaron On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: > Grant, > > Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique > and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > white elephant or skunk-works products. > > An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes > these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > accidents. > > I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > > I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > think that's how it went). > > Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > > Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > its tusks... > > Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity > to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > legacy. > > Thanks! > Braden > > On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > > > > > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of > > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and > > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made > > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. > > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. If > > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most > > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over two > > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the only > > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the farm, > > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be > > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the > > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > > Grant > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
This is apparently the frame: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ I understand the desire to change it to a more typical Rivendell frame before releasing it to the wild, but i think Braden has a good point in his post. I admit that i check out the prototype listings once in a while, just to see if there was something odd and interesting that Grant tried and later canceled for whatever reason. Rivendell certainly has a strong house style, but there's also a long streak of experimenting, so i don't think it would be so bad for something like this to exist as-is. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Have photos been posted of this mystery frame? I'd like to see what > all the hullabaloo is about. > > Aaron > > On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: >> Grant, >> >> Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique >> and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare >> white elephant or skunk-works products. >> >> An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes >> these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random >> accidents. >> >> I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. >> The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets >> ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. >> >> I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how >> you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a >> rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs >> and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I >> think that's how it went). >> >> Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one >> of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay >> up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. >> >> Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board >> would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and >> your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of >> its tusks... >> >> Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity >> to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to >> inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your >> legacy. >> >> Thanks! >> Braden >> >> On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: >> >> >> >> > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of >> > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and >> > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made >> > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. >> > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. >> > If >> > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most >> > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over two >> > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the only >> > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the >> > farm, >> > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. >> > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be >> > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the >> > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. >> >> > Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:44 AM, wrote: > I can understand rules about support cars, but not being allowed to help your > fellow riders is pretty weak. I'm not sure I get the point of randonneuring. > Sounds like they take a nice ride and spoil it with a bunch of arbitrary > rules and limits. Helping other riders is not normally considered to be "personal support". So, yes, you can hold another rider's bike while they fix a flat. There's a thread on the "randon" list right now about the most memorable repairs riders have helped with on other rider's bikes. --glenn West Chester, PA, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Bill Connell wrote: > This is apparently the frame: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ > > I understand the desire to change it to a more typical Rivendell frame > before releasing it to the wild, but i think Braden has a good point > in his post. I admit that i check out the prototype listings once in a > while, just to see if there was something odd and interesting that > Grant tried and later canceled for whatever reason. Rivendell > certainly has a strong house style, but there's also a long streak of > experimenting, so i don't think it would be so bad for something like > this to exist as-is. > Prototype listings? Where would those be? thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
Looks nice to my relatively untrained eye. Anyone know what size? Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Bill Connell wrote: From: Bill Connell Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 12:04 PM This is apparently the frame: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ I understand the desire to change it to a more typical Rivendell frame before releasing it to the wild, but i think Braden has a good point in his post. I admit that i check out the prototype listings once in a while, just to see if there was something odd and interesting that Grant tried and later canceled for whatever reason. Rivendell certainly has a strong house style, but there's also a long streak of experimenting, so i don't think it would be so bad for something like this to exist as-is. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Have photos been posted of this mystery frame? I'd like to see what > all the hullabaloo is about. > > Aaron > > On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: >> Grant, >> >> Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique >> and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare >> white elephant or skunk-works products. >> >> An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes >> these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random >> accidents. >> >> I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. >> The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets >> ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. >> >> I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how >> you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a >> rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs >> and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I >> think that's how it went). >> >> Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one >> of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay >> up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. >> >> Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board >> would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and >> your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of >> its tusks... >> >> Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity >> to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to >> inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your >> legacy. >> >> Thanks! >> Braden >> >> On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: >> >> >> >> > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of >> > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and >> > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made >> > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. >> > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. >> > If >> > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most >> > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over two >> > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the only >> > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the >> > farm, >> > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. >> > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be >> > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the >> > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. >> >> > Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
I vote for May 23rd, 'cause it's sooner. Thanks for the sack lunch option, too. That's my favorite restaurant! Philip On Apr 22, 10:20 pm, Beth H wrote: > I need to know which date would work: May 23 or June 6? > > Pick a date folks? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
Based on the head tube length, I guess someone in the 5'6" to 5'9" range. Just a guess. On Apr 23, 11:09 am, James Dinneen wrote: > Looks nice to my relatively untrained eye. Anyone know what size? Jim D. > Massachusetts > > --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Bill Connell wrote: > > From: Bill Connell > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 12:04 PM > > This is apparently the > frame:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ > > I understand the desire to change it to a more typical Rivendell frame > before releasing it to the wild, but i think Braden has a good point > in his post. I admit that i check out the prototype listings once in a > while, just to see if there was something odd and interesting that > Grant tried and later canceled for whatever reason. Rivendell > certainly has a strong house style, but there's also a long streak of > experimenting, so i don't think it would be so bad for something like > this to exist as-is. > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Aaron Thomas > wrote: > > Have photos been posted of this mystery frame? I'd like to see what > > all the hullabaloo is about. > > > Aaron > > > On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: > >> Grant, > > >> Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique > >> and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > >> white elephant or skunk-works products. > > >> An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes > >> these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > >> accidents. > > >> I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > >> The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > >> ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > > >> I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > >> you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > >> rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > >> and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > >> think that's how it went). > > >> Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > >> of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > >> up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > > >> Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > >> would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > >> your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > >> its tusks... > > >> Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity > >> to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > >> inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > >> legacy. > > >> Thanks! > >> Braden > > >> On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > > >> > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of > >> > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and > >> > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be > >> > made > >> > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less > >> > show. > >> > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* > >> > transformation. If > >> > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the > >> > most > >> > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over > >> > two > >> > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the > >> > only > >> > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the > >> > farm, > >> > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > >> > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will > >> > be > >> > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the > >> > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > >> > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
I'm a believer in downtube gussets (and many other Keith Bontrager ideas), but if it was my bike, I'd try to extract a promise of a free or cheap tube replacement if it cracked, and go ride my super-awesome brand new awesome new super-bike and be happy. Philip McMinnville, Ore. On Apr 22, 10:19 pm, happyriding wrote: > On Apr 22, 1:47 pm, Philip Williamson > wrote: > > > > > Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. > > I'm sure he could, and it would probably look great. However, if you > download Rivendell Reader #41, there is an article in there about the > Bombadil, and the article discusses the extended lug on the underside > of the down tube. The article says the lug extension serves to > reinforce an area that is susceptible to a lot of stress. So saying > that the missing lug work is a cosmetic oversight seems to contradict > that article. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Ray wrote: > For those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they > feel, well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 > lbs, and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like > cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated > as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I weigh less than you and pump my Col de la Vies to 45 PSI front, 55 rear. Mine say "Keep inflate to 50 PSI" on the sidewall, which I think means that 50 PSI is a minimum or recommended value, not the maximum. --glenn West Chester, PA, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
I ride and like the Cdlv tires. I am north of 250 and I have the tires pumped up to 65 front and back. No problems last season or so far this season at these pressures. Jim D Massachusetts --- On Fri, 4/23/10, cyclotourist wrote: From: cyclotourist Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 10:33 AM Hope you like 'em, Ray. I'm quite fond of the CdlV tires. BTW, I recall sidewall listing is the 1/2 way point for the pressure that blows them off the rim. So if blow off =100psi, then they put inflate to 50psi on the sidewall. It isn't the optimum pressure based on weight, conditions, etc. YMMV On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Ray Shine wrote: Thanks to folks who responded to my quandry about the Col da la Vie tires. As one of you suggested, I know that Schwalbes would give a surer ride. I have those on two other bikes, and you are correct. In fact, that's what prompted my question to the list because I am used to a stiffer tire. I guess what I meant to ask is does the 650B size have anything to do with the squishy ride, but when I think about it, I know it can't. (?) When I ride to the office this morn, I'll pump those tires up to 50-55 and report back. Several of you apparently disregard the sidewall advisement to max out at 50 lbs. I'll do the same. Thanks to all, so far. Ray From: MikeC To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 6:34:03 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns I also weigh 175 lbs and I ride 700x35 pumped to 65 psi back/55 psi front. Could probably go down to 55 in back, but I wouldn't want to ride on 45 psi. -MikeC On Apr 22, 8:12 pm, Ray wrote: > So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another > list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have > been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's > different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm > Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the > inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal > strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For > those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, > well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, > and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like > cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated > as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I > still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty > much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on > this? > > This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to > Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. > > Regards, > Ray > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2 - SOLD
Someone grabbed it. Not surprised. Not me. Marty On Apr 23, 11:20 am, newenglandbike wrote: > Please keep that color for the production Simple Ones > > :) > > On Apr 22, 6:42 pm, "Dave @ Riv" wrote: > > > Heads up to the bunch:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
If that's the frame, I don't see what's so un-Riv about it, aside from the lack of fender/rack eyelets. Otherwise, looks unmistakably Riv-ish to me. Given the apparent interest it's generated, I don't understand why they don't try to auction it off as-is rather than sinking more money into it with a retrofit. On Apr 23, 9:04 am, Bill Connell wrote: > This is apparently the > frame:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ > > I understand the desire to change it to a more typical Rivendell frame > before releasing it to the wild, but i think Braden has a good point > in his post. I admit that i check out the prototype listings once in a > while, just to see if there was something odd and interesting that > Grant tried and later canceled for whatever reason. Rivendell > certainly has a strong house style, but there's also a long streak of > experimenting, so i don't think it would be so bad for something like > this to exist as-is. > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Aaron Thomas > wrote: > > Have photos been posted of this mystery frame? I'd like to see what > > all the hullabaloo is about. > > > Aaron > > > On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: > >> Grant, > > >> Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique > >> and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > >> white elephant or skunk-works products. > > >> An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes > >> these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > >> accidents. > > >> I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > >> The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > >> ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > > >> I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > >> you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > >> rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > >> and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > >> think that's how it went). > > >> Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > >> of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > >> up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > > >> Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > >> would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > >> your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > >> its tusks... > > >> Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity > >> to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > >> inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > >> legacy. > > >> Thanks! > >> Braden > > >> On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > > >> > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of > >> > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and > >> > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be > >> > made > >> > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less > >> > show. > >> > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* > >> > transformation. If > >> > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the > >> > most > >> > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over > >> > two > >> > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the > >> > only > >> > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the > >> > farm, > >> > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > >> > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will > >> > be > >> > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the > >> > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > >> > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
2+ on getting the Tektros. I got a pair of the 800s for an ancient mountain bike rehab that had worn-out side-pulls, I am all for vintage and reuse but sometimes its nice just to have new stuff that works ;-). Had a lot of fun building a Mixte for my Wife's 40th last year but the pay off was seeing her big smile when she went for the first ride. If I can make one suggestion. Get a front Basket. I got a wicker eleven81 with QR and a handle and after color its her second favorite thing about the bike. Enjoy Ryan On Apr 23, 8:51 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM, rperks wrote: > > I would second that, it looks like a weel problem more thna a brake. > > Those are pretty long reach already. Looks like a fun project though > > Maybe try sliding the wheel forward or back in the dropouts just a bit > - there is A LOT of room to slide it around in those dropouts if > memory serves. > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
Grant: Braden presents a compelling and quite sensible argument. Please re- consider. Perhaps ask this group to vote with their wallets & make this the next auction bike? Proceeds to Smile Train? A win-win- win. Doug Peterson On Apr 22, 10:22 pm, Grant Petersen wrote: > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. If > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over two > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the only > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the farm, > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
And Jim and Hiawatha Cyclery told me about a month ago he had some 37mm Paselas. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 23, 6:23 am, Brianhef wrote: > On Apr 23, 6:52 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > Do 37mm Paselas actually exist any more? I've seen listings for the > > other sizes, but it's been a couple of years since I've seen anyone > > selling 37mm Paselas. > > I received a pair of 37mm Paselas in early March 2010 from Harris > Cyclery:http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/622.html > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
Sorry. It's June 6. We can try for second date later in the summer if there's enough interest. --BH On Apr 23, 9:13 am, Philip Williamson wrote: > I vote for May 23rd, 'cause it's sooner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
CycloFiend wrote: ...as I used to tire, my torso would start to "hang" slightly from my shoulder joints. It's a bit tricky to explain rather than show, but you can often notice as your shoulders move up towards your ears. Yeah, I call this "turtling," when your shoulders hunch up around your ears and your neck disappears down into your chest, sometimes with your head hanging, too. Like a turtle pulling back into his shell. I try to avoid doing this by focussing on keeping my back straight(ish) and my head up...the old "try to touch the top tube with your belly button," exercise works for me. Most of my lower back problems were solved by moving my saddle a bit forward and my bars down a little, FWIW. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
" . . . Just a wonderful feeling to have a dialed in ride!" Amen brother! I think everyone can agree this is one of life's indisputable truths. On Apr 22, 8:34 pm, Michael_S wrote: > Just got back for a mixed terrain ride on the 35 Pasleas... they are a > pretty sweet ride! Road at about 78 psi which is just right for me at > 187lbs ( just me) Fast on the pavement but good enuf in the dirt. Have > to pay attention in soft dirt corners at speed but otherwise a great > all around tire. Did I mention how well that Hillborne rides off > road? Just a wonderful feeling to have a dialed in ride! > > ~Mike~ > > On Apr 22, 8:13 pm, charlie wrote: > > > > > > > I have the plain black wall 35mm Paselas with wire bead and they are > > definitely easier to get up to speed on than my plain Jane 700x47 (41 > > actual) Marathons..but the Marathons are awesome when it comes to > > varied terrain and road shoulder junk. I even hit what appeared to be > > the remains of a paint scraper. It "wanged" off the tire and out to > > the side with no damage to the sidewall. I once hit a sharp, walnut > > sized rock with a Pasela and it tore at the sidewall and the tire was > > ruined. I run the Marathon pressures to around 60-70 psi which is max > > for this tire but I weigh in at a semi healthy 268 lbs. I hate fixing > > flats and I must have a reliable tire for commuting so I say, "go wide > > with pride" ! > > > On Apr 20, 8:32 pm, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also > > > supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone > > > have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both > > > in terms of actual width and ride quality? > > > > There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are > > > both 36mm. Do they ride differently? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gernot > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
+1 for questioning the wheel size choice. If this is a 27" to 650B conversion, that's a really large jump (630-584=46mm diameter, about an inch in radius). I'd be really worried about pedal dragging. Put the crankset and BB in before you do anything with brakes and see if she's going to be scraping pedals like crazy. I imagine that inch you are dropping the bottom bracket will get made up somewhat with fatter tires, but it would be a shame to 'fix' your brake problem with more money and then find the bike is unrideable due to a too-low BB. On Apr 23, 9:41 am, RoadieRyan wrote: > 2+ on getting the Tektros. I got a pair of the 800s for an ancient > mountain bike rehab that had worn-out side-pulls, I am all for > vintage and reuse but sometimes its nice just to have new stuff that > works ;-). > > Had a lot of fun building a Mixte for my Wife's 40th last year but the > pay off was seeing her big smile when she went for the first ride. > If I can make one suggestion. Get a front Basket. I got a wicker > eleven81 with QR and a handle and after color its her second favorite > thing about the bike. > > Enjoy > > Ryan > > On Apr 23, 8:51 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM, rperks wrote: > > > I would second that, it looks like a weel problem more thna a brake. > > > Those are pretty long reach already. Looks like a fun project though > > > Maybe try sliding the wheel forward or back in the dropouts just a bit > > - there is A LOT of room to slide it around in those dropouts if > > memory serves. > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
I did a 27" to 650B conversion on a pink Mixte myself! A Miyata "90". BB musta been crazy high to begin with since it was still high after the conversion. Just measure the BB height. Less than 260mm might be a concern, but I've ridden lower without issues. Ryan On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:45, William wrote: +1 for questioning the wheel size choice. If this is a 27" to 650B conversion, that's a really large jump (630-584=46mm diameter, about an inch in radius). I'd be really worried about pedal dragging. Put the crankset and BB in before you do anything with brakes and see if she's going to be scraping pedals like crazy. I imagine that inch you are dropping the bottom bracket will get made up somewhat with fatter tires, but it would be a shame to 'fix' your brake problem with more money and then find the bike is unrideable due to a too-low BB. On Apr 23, 9:41 am, RoadieRyan wrote: 2+ on getting the Tektros. I got a pair of the 800s for an ancient mountain bike rehab that had worn-out side-pulls, I am all for vintage and reuse but sometimes its nice just to have new stuff that works ;-). Had a lot of fun building a Mixte for my Wife's 40th last year but the pay off was seeing her big smile when she went for the first ride. If I can make one suggestion. Get a front Basket. I got a wicker eleven81 with QR and a handle and after color its her second favorite thing about the bike. Enjoy Ryan On Apr 23, 8:51 am, Seth Vidal wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:20 AM, rperks wrote: I would second that, it looks like a weel problem more thna a brake. Those are pretty long reach already. Looks like a fun project though Maybe try sliding the wheel forward or back in the dropouts just a bit - there is A LOT of room to slide it around in those dropouts if memory serves. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/ group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/ rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
Manny, I can't really offer any mechanical advice, but I do know of a shop in San Francisco that rebuilds lots of bikes of this vintage. They've helped me fix up an 80's Azuki mixte I acquired a few month ago. It's a small shop close to Pier 39 and the vibe is low-key. Citizen Chain: http://www.citizenchain.com/ Now it's up to me to complete the aesthetic transformation for this bike, into a French porteur style... someday - Cheryl "ever procrastinating on my bike project" Mitchell On Apr 22, 10:01 pm, manueljohnacosta wrote: > and about the second issue. Anyone have any ideas and where I can find > one? I might check out my local place, Cycle of Change, but never > guaranteed that I can find the part there. Thanks in advance! > Hopefully I can get this worked out. > > -Manny "Bikes aren't always easy" Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 06:06 -0700, Ray Shine wrote: > Thanks to folks who responded to my quandry about the Col da la Vie > tires. As one of you suggested, I know that Schwalbes would give a > surer ride. I have those on two other bikes, and you are correct. In > fact, that's what prompted my question to the list because I am used > to a stiffer tire. I guess what I meant to ask is does the 650B size > have anything to do with the squishy ride, but when I think about it, > I know it can't. (?) > What does "squishy" mean? And what would a "surer" ride be? I have 3 650B bikes. I've ridden over 18,000 miles on CdlVs and several thousand on Hetres. I'm not a daredevil rider and I don't take sharp turns at high speeds with extreme lean angles, so I've never experienced the much-discussed CdlV "squirm", but at least I think I know what those who notice it are talking about. I have absolutely no idea what "squishy" means to you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
45 seems to this particular 170-lb rider rather low for a 32 mm tire. I get the 33.3 Jack Browns on my Sam Hill at least up to 50-60, and they squeal in tight corners; and the 28s on the Motobecane up to a rock hard 70-80 (at least, 80 in the rear for heavy grocery loads). On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Ray wrote: > So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another > list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have > been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's > different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm > Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the > inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal > strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For > those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, > well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, > and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like > cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated > as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I > still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty > much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on > this? > > This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to > Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. > > Regards, > Ray > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 13:36 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > 45 seems to this particular 170-lb rider rather low for a 32 mm tire. The CdlV is not a 32mm tire. Nominally it's a 38, actual measurement on most rims around 36mm. > I get the 33.3 Jack Browns on my Sam Hill at least up to 50-60, and > they squeal in tight corners; and the 28s on the Motobecane up to a > rock hard 70-80 (at least, 80 in the rear for heavy grocery loads). If you want to ride rock hard tires, don't ride 650Bs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sugino XD700 double crank on an AHH?
Has anyone tried the Sugino XD700 double crankset (available through Velo Orange) on an A. Homer Hilsen? VO recommends a 110mm bottom bracket for this crankset. Your reports on this appreciated. Thanks, -- Forrest (Iowa City) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
You might be able to file the hole for the centerbolt to allow for some vertical adjustment. Kind of like these Mafacs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/54878...@n00/4544396102/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/54878...@n00/4543765097/ If you do that in combination with filing the brake shoe slots, you might just make it. You could also fabricate some sort of drop bolt. Good luck. Jay On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:01 AM, manueljohnacosta < manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I was lucky to get in possession of a 49cm Le Tour Mixte. I figured > since my girlfriend just recently got a new job, new place, graduated > from college and her birthday was coming up, I figured I should get > her something big. Pink is her favorite color and she enjoys biking. > So I set off building her a bike. Getting most of the parts together I > find myself with a few issues. > 1. Big issue the brakes seem like they are only a few centimeters off. > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4545155110/in/set-72157623789349209/ > > 2. The rear brake is a center-pull and needs a longer straddle cable > to clear the seat tube. > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4544523125/in/set-72157623789349209/ > > > So with the first issue I go to the ROB group for some answers. Any > ideas of making this work? It's SOOO close to fitting. Or should I > just bite the bullet and look for brakes that fit? > > and about the second issue. Anyone have any ideas and where I can find > one? I might check out my local place, Cycle of Change, but never > guaranteed that I can find the part there. Thanks in advance! > Hopefully I can get this worked out. > > -Manny "Bikes aren't always easy" Acosta > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
Rock hard? 60 psi??? On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 13:36 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > 45 seems to this particular 170-lb rider rather low for a 32 mm tire. > > The CdlV is not a 32mm tire. Nominally it's a 38, actual measurement on > most rims around 36mm. > > > > > I get the 33.3 Jack Browns on my Sam Hill at least up to 50-60, and > > they squeal in tight corners; and the 28s on the Motobecane up to a > > rock hard 70-80 (at least, 80 in the rear for heavy grocery loads). > > > If you want to ride rock hard tires, don't ride 650Bs. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sugino XD700 double crank on an AHH?
On my new to me AHH, I put on a Stronglight compact double cranskset which is really just a Sugino with Stronglight rings. The crankset is paired with a 113mm bottom bracket. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Forrest wrote: > Has anyone tried the Sugino XD700 double crankset (available through > Velo Orange) on an A. Homer Hilsen? VO recommends a 110mm bottom > bracket for this crankset. Your reports on this appreciated. Thanks, > -- Forrest (Iowa City) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
I also have a Bleriot. The bike shop was showing me some Hetres but at $60 or so a piece, I was hesitant. I have adequate, $25 Cdlv's now. I would be interested in a comparison of the two tires for the time when I need to replace the Cdlv's. Jim D Massachusetts --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Jon Grant wrote: From: Jon Grant Subject: Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:00 PM I have a 59cm Blériot. I weigh, um, more than you by 50 lbs or so. When I used Col De La Vies, I kept them around 70-75 lbs. A lot of folks reported that they felt a little squirmy, especially in corners, but I never noticed it until I got Grand Bois Hetres and felt the absence of squirm. Noticeable, but not a huge difference, at least to me. So, maybe add 10-15 lbs pressure? -- Jon “Papa” Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings — all sorts From: Ray Reply-To: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on this? This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sugino XD700 double crank on an AHH?
You should just call the 1(800) number and ask Mark. I'm sure he's set up several. They use a 107 on just about everything with the XD2 triple. On Apr 23, 1:24 pm, Dan Abelson wrote: > On my new to me AHH, I put on a Stronglight compact double cranskset which > is really just a Sugino with Stronglight rings. The crankset is paired with > a 113mm bottom bracket. > > Dan Abelson > St. Paul, MN > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Forrest wrote: > > Has anyone tried the Sugino XD700 double crankset (available through > > Velo Orange) on an A. Homer Hilsen? VO recommends a 110mm bottom > > bracket for this crankset. Your reports on this appreciated. Thanks, > > -- Forrest (Iowa City) > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Image of Spring Riding
I was expecting flowers...and a meadow...and sunshine! On Apr 23, 9:58 am, cyclofiend wrote: > Came across this Hunqapillar image this morning: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikenoir/4539710552/ > > M "spring riding" > > Beautiful image! > > - Jim > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
I have the Hetres on my Bleriot, tire pressure ranging from 45-60psi (depending on how if I'm too lazy to pump up my tires, heh.) So far, it's been great for roads and light trails. Yeah, they're a little pricier, but definitely great, responsive tires. Like riding on a quick couch. Only warning I can think of are the sidewalls are extremely thin so you'd need to be mindful of where you're riding and how rough the terrain is. But again, aside from that, they're really good tires. Doesn't hurt that they're beautiful either. On Apr 23, 3:32 pm, James Dinneen wrote: > I also have a Bleriot. The bike shop was showing me some Hetres but at $60 or > so a piece, I was hesitant. I have adequate, $25 Cdlv's now. I would be > interested in a comparison of the two tires for the time when I need to > replace the Cdlv's. Jim D Massachusetts > > --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Jon Grant wrote: > > From: Jon Grant > Subject: Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:00 PM > > I have a 59cm Blériot. I weigh, um, more than you by 50 lbs or so. When I > used Col De La Vies, I kept them around 70-75 lbs. A lot of folks reported > that they felt a little squirmy, especially in corners, but I never noticed > it until I got Grand Bois Hetres and felt the absence of squirm. Noticeable, > but not a huge difference, at least to me. So, maybe add 10-15 lbs pressure? > > -- > Jon “Papa” Grant > Illustration + Information Graphics > Austin, Texas > jgr...@papagrant.com > 512-284-9599 > > Drawings — all sorts > > From: Ray > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns > > So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another > list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have > been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's > different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm > Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the > inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal > strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For > those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, > well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, > and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like > cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated > as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I > still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty > much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on > this? > > This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to > Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. > > Regards, > Ray > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Angeles National Forest Ride
Hey there- Visiting downtown LA from SF and was wondering if anyone here has biked the Angeles National Forest. I'm hoping to do 40-50 mile loop on Saturday and this seems to be the nearest big green patch on Google maps, hah. I'll also need to rent a bike as I've left the Bleriot at home. Any recommendations for shops would be helpful, thanks. Oh, and I have a car so you know of other nearby rides I'd love to hear about them. Thanks, Jorge -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
I agree, it seems a shame to go to all that work and lose money when there seems to be interest in it as is. On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: > Grant, > > Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique > and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > white elephant or skunk-works products. > > An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes > these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > accidents. > > I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > > I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > think that's how it went). > > Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > > Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > its tusks... > > Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity > to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > legacy. > > Thanks! > Braden > > On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > > > > > > > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of > > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and > > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made > > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. > > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. If > > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most > > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over two > > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the only > > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the farm, > > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be > > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the > > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > > Grant > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
Whoop! That is a rather over-the-top crown and head tube! And what's with the curvey stays? Patrick "likes his women and frames plain and his theology baroque" Moore On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Bill Connell wrote: > This is apparently the frame: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ > > I understand the desire to change it to a more typical Rivendell frame > before releasing it to the wild, but i think Braden has a good point > in his post. I admit that i check out the prototype listings once in a > while, just to see if there was something odd and interesting that > Grant tried and later canceled for whatever reason. Rivendell > certainly has a strong house style, but there's also a long streak of > experimenting, so i don't think it would be so bad for something like > this to exist as-is. > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Aaron Thomas > wrote: > > Have photos been posted of this mystery frame? I'd like to see what > > all the hullabaloo is about. > > > > Aaron > > > > On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: > >> Grant, > >> > >> Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique > >> and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > >> white elephant or skunk-works products. > >> > >> An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes > >> these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > >> accidents. > >> > >> I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > >> The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > >> ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > >> > >> I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > >> you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > >> rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > >> and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > >> think that's how it went). > >> > >> Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > >> of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > >> up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > >> > >> Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > >> would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > >> your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > >> its tusks... > >> > >> Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity > >> to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > >> inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > >> legacy. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Braden > >> > >> On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all > of > >> > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, > and > >> > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be > made > >> > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less > show. > >> > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* > transformation. If > >> > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the > most > >> > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation > over two > >> > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the > only > >> > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the > farm, > >> > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > >> > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor > will be > >> > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over > the > >> > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > >> > >> > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Angeles National Forest Ride
Hi, They been closing some roads around Mt. Wilson, do to landslides from the rains. I had friends say they would even let a bicycle past. You may want to check it out. On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Jorge wrote: > Hey there- > > Visiting downtown LA from SF and was wondering if anyone here has > biked the Angeles National Forest. I'm hoping to do 40-50 mile loop > on Saturday and this seems to be the nearest big green patch on Google > maps, hah. > > I'll also need to rent a bike as I've left the Bleriot at home. Any > recommendations for shops would be helpful, thanks. > > Oh, and I have a car so you know of other nearby rides I'd love to > hear about them. > > Thanks, > > Jorge > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2 - SOLD
What will be the differences between a SimpleOne and a Quickbeam? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] More Rich Lesnik Music Found on Youtube - Check it out!
I think Rich made the instrument that the young lady is using in the clip and taught her how to play it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OptLgGtZ9_E -Original Message- >From: Me >Sent: Apr 21, 2010 9:57 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact > >Just watched/listened. Very nice, Rich! > >Rich and me have discussed music on a couple occasions. If memory >serves, Rich studied with the same cat that one of the guys I played/ >toured & recorded with pretty often also studied with back in the day, >Dave Liebman [played in Miles Davis' band and Elvin Jones' Jazz >Machine]. > >Rich, if you happen to see this, who is playing drums on the gig? > >-Scott > >On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau wrote: >> For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay >> Area. Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in >> town. >> >> Enjoy. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
On Apr 23, 6:08 am, Shaun Meehan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Earl Grey wrote: > > Shaun, > > > what do you find to be the sweet spot for the 38 Racers, and what's > > your combined bike/rider/luggage load? > > > Gernot > > I'm not really sure how much my bike weighs but it's a 68cm Atlantis. > I typically don't carry a whole lot of stuff with me. I have a Nitto > Top Rack with a Big Loafer, in which I carry tools, tube, pump, rain > shell, etc. I weigh about 230 pounds these days. So I would say that > the total weight is probably in the neighborhood of 275 pounds. I > always default to the max recommended pressure when I inflate my tires > on account of my size; so initially I had the Racers inflated to 85 > PSI. They rode fine at 85 but I noticed that after they lost some air, > they actually rode quite a bit better. The "sweet spot" for me seems > to be around 75 PSI. > Have you had any flats with the Racers? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: More Rich Lesnik Music Found on Youtube - Check it out!
I always suspected straight gauge spokes would have a cleaner tone. On Apr 23, 4:34 pm, James Warren wrote: > I think Rich made the instrument that the young lady is using in the clip and > taught her how to play it! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OptLgGtZ9_E > > > > -Original Message- > >From: Me > >Sent: Apr 21, 2010 9:57 PM > >To: RBW Owners Bunch > >Subject: [RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact > > >Just watched/listened. Very nice, Rich! > > >Rich and me have discussed music on a couple occasions. If memory > >serves, Rich studied with the same cat that one of the guys I played/ > >toured & recorded with pretty often also studied with back in the day, > >Dave Liebman [played in Miles Davis' band and Elvin Jones' Jazz > >Machine]. > > >Rich, if you happen to see this, who is playing drums on the gig? > > >-Scott > > >On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau wrote: > >> For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay > >> Area. Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in > >> town. > > >> Enjoy. > > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >"RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >For more options, visit this group > >athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Apr 23, 4:32 pm, James Dinneen wrote: > I also have a Bleriot. The bike shop was showing me some Hetres but at $60 or > so a piece, I was hesitant. I have >adequate, $25 Cdlv's now. I would be > interested in a comparison of the two tires for the time when I need to > replace the >Cdlv's. to be frank, there is no comparison. The hetres roll faster, corner better, and are even more plush than the CdlV. The Hetre is also very durable. i probably have over 5,000 miles on Hetres without a flat. It's a freakish tire. I still think it's overkill if you spend a lot of time on pavement. but if you spend a lot time in the dirt or mixed surfaces, the hetres are heavenly. especially if you like to descend fast on dirt and mixed surfaces - they inspire confidence, for sure. are they worth it? that's another question and entirely up to you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Under-inflated Col Da Le Vies- Was New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
Well, I pumped these Col De La Vie tires up to 65lbs rear, 60 lbs front and rode the long way into the office. It was much, much better. Those of you who knew I was under-inflated were absolutely correct, and I thank you. You who brought to my attention that the sidewall reads 50 lbs MINIMUM, thank you, as well. To be honest, I was just following Grant Peterson's advice, but that's no excuse. Inflation instructions for the Col Da Le Vie 35mm 650B tires on the RBW web site read: "At 36mm wide, it's voluminous enough to run as low as 25psi, and yet you can harden it up to 50psi or so if you like. Most of the time, compromise." I compromised. I'd advise against it. Thanks again, everyone. The Bleriot is a winner! Great fun, great ride. Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:34 PM, happyriding wrote: > > Have you had any flats with the Racers? > I think I've just had one rear flat since I started running them. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2 - SOLD
Country of origin (Taiwan vs. Japan). Not sure if the SimpleOne is going to be offered complete or not. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 23, 6:04�pm, happyriding wrote: > What will be the differences between a SimpleOne and a Quickbeam? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] What the H*#L is Squishy? Was New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
Steve Wrote: What does "squishy" mean? And what would a "surer" ride be? I have absolutely no idea what "squishy" means to you. You're right, Steve. I guess I wasn't clear in my descriptive. Let me try to rephrase these two terms in Riv-Speak: Squishy: Less em-surer. Surer: Less em-squishied. Hope that clears things up. : ^ ) RS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
I'll be contrarian. It's Rivendell's call, and if they feel the need to re-do the bike before selling it, then they should. While from the photo, the bike looks nice, if Grant is not comfortable selling it like that, he shouldn't be pressured into doing so. In 20 years, is someone going to look at that bike and see "hey, a cool concept from Rivendell" or "what was Grant thinking?" Sort of reminds me of the Leica M5. Yes, a way to put a meter in a Leica M model. But the end result looked like something that wasn't "typical" Leica. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 23, 11:03�am, Joe Bernard wrote: > I agree, it seems a shame to go to all that work and lose money when > there seems to be interest in it as is. > > On Apr 23, 7:00�am, bdavis999 wrote: > > > > > > > Grant, > > > Can I offer an idea here. �For many companies, part of the mystique > > and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > > white elephant or skunk-works products. > > > An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. �Soemtimes > > these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > > accidents. > > > I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > > The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > > ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > > > I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > > you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > > rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > > and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > > think that's how it went). > > > Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > > of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > > up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > > > Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > > would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > > your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > > its tusks... > > > Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. �Maybe this is an opportunity > > to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > > inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > > legacy. > > > Thanks! > > Braden > > > On Apr 23, 1:22�am, Grant Petersen wrote: > > > > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of > > > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and > > > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made > > > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. > > > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. > > > If > > > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most > > > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over > > > two > > > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the > > > only > > > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the > > > farm, > > > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > > > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be > > > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the > > > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > > > Grant > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: [RBW] What the H*#L is Squishy? Was New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 17:27 -0700, Ray Shine wrote: > > > > > __ > > Steve Wrote: > > What does "squishy" mean? And what would a "surer" ride be? > > I have absolutely no idea what > "squishy" means to you. > > > > You're right, Steve. I guess I wasn't clear in my descriptive. Let > me try to rephrase these two terms in Riv-Speak: > > Squishy: Less em-surer. > > Surer: Less em-squishied. > > Hope that clears things up. : ^ ) No, not even slightly, and it actually isn't funny, either. Try again. As they tell the 2 year olds, "use your words." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 17:00 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: > > On Apr 23, 4:32 pm, James Dinneen wrote: > > I also have a Bleriot. The bike shop was showing me some Hetres but at $60 > > or so a piece, I was hesitant. I have >adequate, $25 Cdlv's now. I would be > > interested in a comparison of the two tires for the time when I need to > > replace the >Cdlv's. > > to be frank, there is no comparison. The hetres roll faster, corner > better, and are even more plush than the CdlV. The Hetre is also very > durable. i probably have over 5,000 miles on Hetres without a flat. > It's a freakish tire. I still think it's overkill if you spend a lot > of time on pavement. but if you spend a lot time in the dirt or mixed > surfaces, the hetres are heavenly. especially if you like to descend > fast on dirt and mixed surfaces - they inspire confidence, for sure. We have a dirt road ride up near Middleburg VA. I've done it twice on my Saluki, once with CdlVs and once with Hetres. One long downhill stretch really caught my attention. On the CdlVs I felt secure and comfortable going down at 10-12 mph. A year later, same stretch of road, conditions exactly the same, on Hetres I was going down that same downhill at 20 mph feeling secure and comfortable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What the H*#L is Squishy? Was New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 17:27 -0700, Ray Shine wrote: >> >> >> >> >> __ >> >> Steve Wrote: >> >> What does "squishy" mean? And what would a "surer" ride be? >> >> I have absolutely no idea what >> "squishy" means to you. >> >> >> >> You're right, Steve. I guess I wasn't clear in my descriptive. Let >> me try to rephrase these two terms in Riv-Speak: >> >> Squishy: Less em-surer. >> >> Surer: Less em-squishied. >> >> Hope that clears things up. : ^ ) > > > No, not even slightly, and it actually isn't funny, either. It gave ME a chuckle. Couldn't have said it better myself! Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
The Hetre is my Favorite tire ever, but only on pavement. It has no tread to speak of and feels much less secure in dirt than a CDLV or Trimline to me. I have pathetic off-road skills however. Ryan On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 17:00 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: >> >> On Apr 23, 4:32 pm, James Dinneen wrote: >>> I also have a Bleriot. The bike shop was showing me some Hetres but at $60 >>> or so a piece, I was hesitant. I have >adequate, $25 Cdlv's now. I would be >>> interested in a comparison of the two tires for the time when I need to >>> replace the >Cdlv's. >> >> to be frank, there is no comparison. The hetres roll faster, corner >> better, and are even more plush than the CdlV. The Hetre is also very >> durable. i probably have over 5,000 miles on Hetres without a flat. >> It's a freakish tire. I still think it's overkill if you spend a lot >> of time on pavement. but if you spend a lot time in the dirt or mixed >> surfaces, the hetres are heavenly. especially if you like to descend >> fast on dirt and mixed surfaces - they inspire confidence, for sure. > > We have a dirt road ride up near Middleburg VA. I've done it twice on > my Saluki, once with CdlVs and once with Hetres. One long downhill > stretch really caught my attention. On the CdlVs I felt secure and > comfortable going down at 10-12 mph. A year later, same stretch of > road, conditions exactly the same, on Hetres I was going down that same > downhill at 20 mph feeling secure and comfortable. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 20:04 -0600, rswat...@me.com wrote: > The Hetre is my Favorite tire ever, but only on pavement. It has no tread to > speak of and feels much less secure in dirt than a CDLV or Trimline to me. > I have pathetic off-road skills however. What does "dirt" mean to you? When I speak of "dirt road riding" I'm talking about Northern Virginia gravel roads. The base is very hard, sometimes with some loose small gravel on top but usually not. Occasional to severe potholes and washboard, but basically graded and not too much in the way of sharp rocks or ruts. Tread, especially knobby tread, would do absolutely nothing for you on a surface like that: there's no way rubber any softer than granite would dig into it. You'd need a pick axe to dig in to that stuff. What does help is a wide, secure footprint and the Hetre sure has that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Apr 23, 2010, at 20:14, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 20:04 -0600, rswat...@me.com wrote: The Hetre is my Favorite tire ever, but only on pavement. It has no tread to speak of and feels much less secure in dirt than a CDLV or Trimline to me. I have pathetic off-road skills however. What does "dirt" mean to you? I don't know, just the typical dirt roads I encounter around Colorado and New Mexico. The Hetres slip much more when cornering and climbing than the more "tready" tires. There are a couple roads that have seriously hard, smooth stuff like you describe below where even a skinny slick would work, but they have looser sections, too. When I speak of "dirt road riding" I'm talking about Northern Virginia gravel roads. The base is very hard, sometimes with some loose small gravel on top but usually not. Occasional to severe potholes and washboard, but basically graded and not too much in the way of sharp rocks or ruts. Tread, especially knobby tread, would do absolutely nothing for you on a surface like that: there's no way rubber any softer than granite would dig into it. You'd need a pick axe to dig in to that stuff. What does help is a wide, secure footprint and the Hetre sure has that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
Link is to West Virginia, but is it similar to what you describe? http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=RrzKj&pic_id=502534&v=1&size=large On Apr 23, 9:24 pm, rswat...@me.com wrote: > On Apr 23, 2010, at 20:14, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 20:04 -0600, rswat...@me.com wrote: > >> The Hetre is my Favorite tire ever, but only on pavement. It has > >> no tread to speak of and feels much less secure in dirt than a CDLV > >> or Trimline to me. > >> I have pathetic off-road skills however. > > > What does "dirt" mean to you? > > I don't know, just the typical dirt roads I encounter around Colorado > and New Mexico. The Hetres slip much more when cornering and climbing > than the more "tready" tires. There are a couple roads that have > seriously hard, smooth stuff like you describe below where even a > skinny slick would work, but they have looser sections, too. > > > > > When I speak of "dirt road riding" I'm talking about Northern Virginia > > gravel roads. The base is very hard, sometimes with some loose small > > gravel on top but usually not. Occasional to severe potholes and > > washboard, but basically graded and not too much in the way of sharp > > rocks or ruts. > > > Tread, especially knobby tread, would do absolutely nothing for you > > on a > > surface like that: there's no way rubber any softer than granite would > > dig into it. You'd need a pick axe to dig in to that stuff. What > > does > > help is a wide, secure footprint and the Hetre sure has that. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Voyager in the Gallery
This might be my favorite bike in the entire Cyclofiend gallery: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc772-michaelkullman0410.html -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
I agree with Patrick. There's no comparison between Hetres and CDLV's. The CDLV tire, for me, has never been willing to mount on the rim properly. There's always a hump no matter how many times I've tried to get them to sit properly. Aside from that annoyance, the Hetres are faster, smoother, quieter, and make handling better. So far, I've never had a flat on a Hetre either, and I ride in volcanic, goathead-laden Chico. They are pricey, but so far I'm getting surprisingly little wear for as many miles as I've put on my Hetres. Off road in all but ridiculous mud or rock faces, they're great, too. Dirt in Chico means anything from nicely maintained fine gravel trails to this kind of junk: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2418266670/in/set-72157607024143730/ When the CDLVs wear out on my townie Bleriot, that'll be the last of that tire for me. And yes, for $60 vs $20 per tire, the Hetre had better be that much nicer! > On Apr 23, 4:32 pm, James Dinneen wrote: > to be frank, there is no comparison. The hetres roll faster, corner > better, and are even more plush than the CdlV. The Hetre is also very > durable. i probably have over 5,000 miles on Hetres without a flat. > It's a freakish tire. I still think it's overkill if you spend a lot > of time on pavement. but if you spend a lot time in the dirt or mixed > surfaces, the hetres are heavenly. especially if you like to descend > fast on dirt and mixed surfaces - they inspire confidence, for sure. > > are they worth it? that's another question and entirely up to you. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: grepsalot's Tour
Her trip diary and pictures are on Crazy Guy on a Bike at: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/Marking70. Sounds like quite a lady. Had some wheel trouble towards the end of the tour. That, combined with a friend's offer for a ride home, was too tempting to resist. No regrets through. Mike On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:53 AM, CCX wrote: > There was a photo taken in North western Idaho, which is east of > Montana. At that point she was about 320 miles from Seattle. You > might have to look around a bit some more on her site. > > On Apr 22, 11:53 pm, happyriding wrote: >> Has anyone looked at the pictures from her Tour aboard her Atlantis? >> I love this one: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/13860...@n02/3854802814/ >> >> There's a picture of a wheel dipping in Maine, and then the pictures >> seem to abruptly end in Montana. I hope she got to where she wanted >> to go. >> >> Note the small thumbnail image next to the heading "grepsalot's >> photostream"--really poignant. Very inspiring. If you are out there >> grepsalot, thank you. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grant and Jay Race video
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/4546725579/ I took this with my phone camera back in December. I spent three consecutive Saturdays at RBWHQ while in town visiting family, in between jaunts on my bike trip. I saw a lot of California that month, but my time with the folks at Riv was one of the biggest highlights. Fantastic, fantastic folks. And quick kick-bikers, to boot! ~Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What the H*#L is Squishy? Was New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:59 PM, wrote: > > > > > On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 17:27 -0700, Ray Shine wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __ > >> > >> Steve Wrote: > >> > >> What does "squishy" mean? And what would a "surer" ride be? > >> > >> I have absolutely no idea what > >> "squishy" means to you. > >> > >> > >> > >> You're right, Steve. I guess I wasn't clear in my descriptive. Let > >> me try to rephrase these two terms in Riv-Speak: > >> > >> Squishy: Less em-surer. > >> > >> Surer: Less em-squishied. > >> > >> Hope that clears things up. : ^ ) > > > > > > No, not even slightly, and it actually isn't funny, either. > > It gave ME a chuckle. Couldn't have said it better myself! > > Ryan > > > -- > +1 It's official: Ray is funny in a funny ha-ha sort of a way. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Angeles National Forest Ride
Jorge, I can't recommend enough doing the Dirt Mulholland/Santa Monicas loop. It's magical. Only downside is that it's little bit tricky w/out a guide. Really, just wonderful and inspiring to be up there above the city! You can find a lot of info on it from our discussion here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157622071145760/ On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:49 PM, James Valiensi wrote: > Hi, > They been closing some roads around Mt. Wilson, do to landslides from the > rains. I had friends say they would even let a bicycle past. You may want to > check it out. > On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Jorge wrote: > > > Hey there- > > > > Visiting downtown LA from SF and was wondering if anyone here has > > biked the Angeles National Forest. I'm hoping to do 40-50 mile loop > > on Saturday and this seems to be the nearest big green patch on Google > > maps, hah. > > > > I'll also need to rent a bike as I've left the Bleriot at home. Any > > recommendations for shops would be helpful, thanks. > > > > Oh, and I have a car so you know of other nearby rides I'd love to > > hear about them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jorge > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > James Valiensi, PE > Northridge, CA > H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
Once upon a time when I was ordering my Rivendell (circa 1999) I came really close to having it built as a 29er. I'm guessing it would have looked something like this one. Seeing this makes me REALLY wish I went all the way and did. It's just fantastic IMHO. Looks tough enough to go anywhere, and in style. Somebody's missing out on a beautiful bike! But yes, as Eric said, it's Grant's call. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:34 PM, EricP wrote: > I'll be contrarian. It's Rivendell's call, and if they feel the need > to re-do the bike before selling it, then they should. While from the > photo, the bike looks nice, if Grant is not comfortable selling it > like that, he shouldn't be pressured into doing so. > > In 20 years, is someone going to look at that bike and see "hey, a > cool concept from Rivendell" or "what was Grant thinking?" > > Sort of reminds me of the Leica M5. Yes, a way to put a meter in a > Leica M model. But the end result looked like something that wasn't > "typical" Leica. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > > > On Apr 23, 11:03�am, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I agree, it seems a shame to go to all that work and lose money when > > there seems to be interest in it as is. > > > > On Apr 23, 7:00�am, bdavis999 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grant, > > > > > Can I offer an idea here. �For many companies, part of the mystique > > > and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > > > white elephant or skunk-works products. > > > > > An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. �Soemtimes > > > these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > > > accidents. > > > > > I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > > > The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > > > ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > > > > > I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > > > you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > > > rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > > > and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > > > think that's how it went). > > > > > Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > > > of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > > > up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > > > > > Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > > > would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > > > your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > > > its tusks... > > > > > Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. �Maybe this is an opportunity > > > to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > > > inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > > > legacy. > > > > > Thanks! > > > Braden > > > > > On Apr 23, 1:22�am, Grant Petersen wrote: > > > > > > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not > all of > > > > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, > and > > > > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be > made > > > > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less > show. > > > > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* > transformation. If > > > > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the > most > > > > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation > over two > > > > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is > the only > > > > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on > the farm, > > > > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > > > > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor > will be > > > > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over > the > > > > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > > > > > Grant > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > You recei
Re: [RBW] Re: Image of Spring Riding
It's a whole hunqa' goodness there! On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Angus wrote: > I was expecting flowers...and a meadow...and sunshine! > > > > On Apr 23, 9:58 am, cyclofiend wrote: > > Came across this Hunqapillar image this morning: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikenoir/4539710552/ > > > > M "spring riding" > > > > Beautiful image! > > > > - Jim > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Yep. I think everyone would have been happy with that super-awesome arrangement! On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm a believer in downtube gussets (and many other Keith Bontrager > ideas), but if it was my bike, I'd try to extract a promise of a free > or cheap tube replacement if it cracked, and go ride my super-awesome > brand new awesome new super-bike and be happy. > > Philip > McMinnville, Ore. > > On Apr 22, 10:19 pm, happyriding wrote: > > On Apr 22, 1:47 pm, Philip Williamson > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. > > > > I'm sure he could, and it would probably look great. However, if you > > download Rivendell Reader #41, there is an article in there about the > > Bombadil, and the article discusses the extended lug on the underside > > of the down tube. The article says the lug extension serves to > > reinforce an area that is susceptible to a lot of stress. So saying > > that the missing lug work is a cosmetic oversight seems to contradict > > that article. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
of course that would be a fixed gear 29er... with no rear brake! It seems so odd to me I wonder who would be willing to pay even the Rivendell actual cost for this peculiar bike? Perhaps some collector who fancies odd and unique bikes? So unless someone coughs up the $$ Grant should do what he can to recoup his investment... is my vote. ~Mike~ On Apr 23, 9:07 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Once upon a time when I was ordering my Rivendell (circa 1999) I came really > close to having it built as a 29er. I'm guessing it would have looked > something like this one. Seeing this makes me REALLY wish I went all the > way and did. It's just fantastic IMHO. Looks tough enough to go anywhere, > and in style. Somebody's missing out on a beautiful bike! But yes, as Eric > said, it's Grant's call. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:34 PM, EricP wrote: > > I'll be contrarian. It's Rivendell's call, and if they feel the need > > to re-do the bike before selling it, then they should. While from the > > photo, the bike looks nice, if Grant is not comfortable selling it > > like that, he shouldn't be pressured into doing so. > > > In 20 years, is someone going to look at that bike and see "hey, a > > cool concept from Rivendell" or "what was Grant thinking?" > > > Sort of reminds me of the Leica M5. Yes, a way to put a meter in a > > Leica M model. But the end result looked like something that wasn't > > "typical" Leica. > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > On Apr 23, 11:03 am, Joe Bernard wrote: > > > I agree, it seems a shame to go to all that work and lose money when > > > there seems to be interest in it as is. > > > > On Apr 23, 7:00 am, bdavis999 wrote: > > > > > Grant, > > > > > Can I offer an idea here. For many companies, part of the mystique > > > > and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare > > > > white elephant or skunk-works products. > > > > > An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. Soemtimes > > > > these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random > > > > accidents. > > > > > I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. > > > > The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets > > > > ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. > > > > > I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how > > > > you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a > > > > rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs > > > > and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I > > > > think that's how it went). > > > > > Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one > > > > of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay > > > > up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. > > > > > Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board > > > > would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and > > > > your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of > > > > its tusks... > > > > > Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. Maybe this is an opportunity > > > > to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to > > > > inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your > > > > legacy. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Braden > > > > > On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > > > > > > The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not > > all of > > > > > which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, > > and > > > > > repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be > > made > > > > > rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less > > show. > > > > > It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* > > transformation. If > > > > > we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the > > most > > > > > expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation > > over two > > > > > years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is > > the only > > > > > option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on > > the farm, > > > > > and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. > > > > > My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor > > will be > > > > > undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over > > the > > > > > years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. > > > > > > Grant > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > group
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Michael_S wrote: > of course that would be a fixed gear 29er... with no rear brake! It > seems so odd to me I wonder who would be willing to pay even the > Rivendell actual cost for this peculiar bike? Perhaps some collector > who fancies odd and unique bikes? So unless someone coughs up the $$ > Grant should do what he can to recoup his investment... is my vote. > > ~Mike~ > > Fixed 29er with front brake only? Oh, me, me, me! I would, too, if I could afford it and it fit me -- despite the somewhat over-elaborate, for my taste, decoration. (The decoration -- I mean mostly the crown and the paint -- is indeed well done; just fancier than my own taste prefers.) -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What the H*#L is Squishy? Was New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
I think Ray's definitions are metaphysically exact. And, very funny. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 17:27 -0700, Ray Shine wrote: > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Steve Wrote: > > > > What does "squishy" mean? And what would a "surer" ride be? > > > > I have absolutely no idea what > > "squishy" means to you. > > > > > > > > You're right, Steve. I guess I wasn't clear in my descriptive. Let > > me try to rephrase these two terms in Riv-Speak: > > > > Squishy: Less em-surer. > > > > Surer: Less em-squishied. > > > > Hope that clears things up. : ^ ) > > > No, not even slightly, and it actually isn't funny, either. > > Try again. As they tell the 2 year olds, "use your words." > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Items for sale
I thought the group might like to have a look... A friend of mine is parting out a 1981 Specialized Sequoia on ebay. His descriptions are good and prices are right. http://shop.ebay.com/atsffan/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Voyager in the Gallery
I briefly owned one of those; not bad for a $24.99 Goodwill find, since it was in good condition, but I found the frame rather unforgiving and heavy (I built it up as a fixed gear errand bike), though the harshness may have been due in part to the tires, which I forget but which were probably cheap. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:55 PM, James Warren wrote: > > This might be my favorite bike in the entire Cyclofiend gallery: > > http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc772-michaelkullman0410.html > > > -Jim W. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
