[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Build review

[Bruce]

I'm not aware of other calipers that have the reach. Centerpulls, like the 
Diacompe 750 perhaps?





From: Len Lescosky <172tur...@gmail.com>
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 6:58:43 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Build review


This looks great, thanks for the photos. I have a similar-era 700c
Rivendell that I am considering for a 650b conversion. I have not done
it yet but I still might this summer. Are the Tektros the only brakes
that are long enough to allow the conversion work?

Thanks!

Len



  
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[RBW] Re: Albatross bars

[beth h]

On Mar 8, 7:29 pm, Chris Halasz  wrote:
> How *much* longer? Two cm? One?

When I switched from drops to the North Road bars I found that
swapping a stem that was 3cm longer really made a difference.
Beth
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[RBW] two racks and a bag FS

[b hamon]

I have been sitting on these for far too long, with no real plans to actually 
use them in the near future. I need space and cash for another project. So:

1. Nitto/RBW mini-rack, front, works with canti brakes (center tang is threaded 
and fits through fork crown hole): NIB, 80.00 shipped.

2. V/O front mini-rack, similar size and shape to # 1 but the center tang is 
flat and must be drilled to suit your bike. NOTE: This drilling should be done 
at a machine shop where they have a drill press. You CANNOT do this easily at 
home with a hand drill, so don't even try.) NIB, 80.00 shipped.

3. Old, used TINY boxy bag sorta thing. Canvas with vinyl trim, measures 10 
long, 6 inches high and 4 inches deep. Includes clear vinyl map sleeve; 
rear-facing pockets and foward-facing main pouch close with oe-handed snaps. 
Old, stained, Oddball size, good for very small bike or as a novelty. Still 
holds its shape relatively well. 20 bucks alone, shipped;  or 10 with one of 
the racks. (No pix yet, I'm working on it.)

Please reply offlist via email.




  

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[RBW] March Riv Ride

[Bruce Malm]

After the Feb Riv Ride there was some mention of a March ride in the San
Diego area corresponding to a visit from Jim Thill.  I've lost track of that
thread and was wondering if that ride is still going to occur and when and
where it will be?  Thanks

Bruce

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[RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

[David Estes]

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Malm  wrote:

> After the Feb Riv Ride there was some mention of a March ride in the San
> Diego area corresponding to a visit from Jim Thill.  I've lost track of that
> thread and was wondering if that ride is still going to occur and when and
> where it will be?  Thanks
>
> Bruce
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>
> Perfect timing to ask, Bruce!  Sunday the 15th, ride up (or maybe down) the
coast!  All are invited, Rivendell bikes are optional, but fun to look at if
you have one!

-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

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[RBW] nahbs

[Sarah Gibson]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/acmebicycle/sets/72157615028784300/

peace


well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
 




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[RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

The ride is this Sunday, meeting at the Oceanside Transit Center.
Start time is 10 AM (?) to coincide with the train schedule.

On Mar 9, 11:23 am, Bruce Malm  wrote:
> After the Feb Riv Ride there was some mention of a March ride in the San
> Diego area corresponding to a visit from Jim Thill.  I've lost track of that
> thread and was wondering if that ride is still going to occur and when and
> where it will be?  Thanks
>
> Bruce
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[RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

[Timothy Whalen]

Pls forgive me if this is slightly off topic.  I have been thinking about
visiting San Diego and may head out to join this ride.  Any recommendations
on where to stay for a few days, and/or what part of town is best to stay
in.  I'll be riding and maybe rock climbing.Thanks,
Tim Whalen
Santa fe

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The ride is this Sunday, meeting at the Oceanside Transit Center.
> Start time is 10 AM (?) to coincide with the train schedule.
>
> On Mar 9, 11:23 am, Bruce Malm  wrote:
> > After the Feb Riv Ride there was some mention of a March ride in the San
> > Diego area corresponding to a visit from Jim Thill.  I've lost track of
> that
> > thread and was wondering if that ride is still going to occur and when
> and
> > where it will be?  Thanks
> >
> > Bruce
> >
>

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[RBW] The Paper Reader Is Here, Available To Be Added To Web Orders.

[John at Rivendell]

Hi,

The real live paper Reader 41 was delivered by the printer this
morning. It's a "limited edition" of 5,000 copies. We will be mailing
them out this week to everyone who sent in their $4 and address label.
Starting now, they are also available as part of a web order.

As mentioned on the site, if you want only the Reader, please order
that by mail. If you are tacking it onto a web order, follow the link
here-

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/118

Thanks for your patience,

John
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[RBW] Re: The Paper Reader Is Here, Available To Be Added To Web Orders.

[John at Rivendell]

It can also be added to a PHONE order or mail order, too.



On Mar 9, 1:07 pm, John at Rivendell  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The real live paper Reader 41 was delivered by the printer this
> morning. It's a "limited edition" of 5,000 copies. We will be mailing
> them out this week to everyone who sent in their $4 and address label.
> Starting now, they are also available as part of a web order.
>
> As mentioned on the site, if you want only the Reader, please order
> that by mail. If you are tacking it onto a web order, follow the link
> here-
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/118
>
> Thanks for your patience,
>
> John
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[RBW] FW: FS or T: Selle Italia turbo special saddle

[Doug Peterson]

See photos at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33786...@n03/3341794639/in/photostream/

 

New Selle Italia turbo special saddle.  I purchased new many years ago and
have never mounted.  It has red pinstriping and gold colored rails, nose
badge and rear badges.  $100 or trade for new or very lightly used ("tried
it & didn't like it" condition Brooks.  Prefer B-17 either honey or black
but will consider other models also.  Respond off list to dougpn...@cox.net

 


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[RBW] Re: brooks saddle thought

[TJ Ramb]

It would be warm and fuzzy to know that the hide comes from a happy
cow until.bang! Bolt to the head.

I'd suggest that perhaps the cattle could be treated much better
during their lives but have occasional teasing and ridicule just to
keep their hide thicker and I would think better for saddle making.





On Mar 9, 3:01 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Doug Peterson  wrote:
> > As admirable as your intentions may be, you are asking for material
> > traceability similar to that required for critical parts (military,
> > aircraft, etc.).  Commercial products simply aren’t costly enough to support
> > that level of documentation.  Rough guess is you’re looking at $300 for a
> > B-17, assuming you could get a system in place.
>
> I realize the cost may well go up But if the quality and traceability
> of the products is high then it wouldn't be something one would need
> to buy often.
>
> Thanks for the input.
> -sv
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[RBW] Re: brooks saddle thought

[Doug Peterson]

Have you ever seen the ads for California cheese?  "Comes from happy cows".


-Original Message-
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It would be warm and fuzzy to know that the hide comes from a happy
cow until.bang! Bolt to the head.

I'd suggest that perhaps the cattle could be treated much better
during their lives but have occasional teasing and ridicule just to
keep their hide thicker and I would think better for saddle making.





On Mar 9, 3:01 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Doug Peterson  wrote:
> > As admirable as your intentions may be, you are asking for material
> > traceability similar to that required for critical parts (military,
> > aircraft, etc.).  Commercial products simply aren’t costly enough to
support
> > that level of documentation.  Rough guess is you’re looking at $300 for
a
> > B-17, assuming you could get a system in place.
>
> I realize the cost may well go up But if the quality and traceability
> of the products is high then it wouldn't be something one would need
> to buy often.
>
> Thanks for the input.
> -sv




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[RBW] Re: brooks saddle thought

[Eric Norris]

Happy and, presumably, still alive.

--Eric "Omnivore Married to a Vegetarian" Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
www.wheelsnorth.org



On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Doug Peterson wrote:

>
> Have you ever seen the ads for California cheese?  "Comes from happy  
> cows".
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TJ Ramb
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:19 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: brooks saddle thought
>
>
>
> It would be warm and fuzzy to know that the hide comes from a happy
> cow until.bang! Bolt to the head.
>
> I'd suggest that perhaps the cattle could be treated much better
> during their lives but have occasional teasing and ridicule just to
> keep their hide thicker and I would think better for saddle making.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 3:01 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Doug Peterson   
>> wrote:
>>> As admirable as your intentions may be, you are asking for material
>>> traceability similar to that required for critical parts (military,
>>> aircraft, etc.).  Commercial products simply aren’t costly enough to
> support
>>> that level of documentation.  Rough guess is you’re looking at  
>>> $300 for
> a
>>> B-17, assuming you could get a system in place.
>>
>> I realize the cost may well go up But if the quality and traceability
>> of the products is high then it wouldn't be something one would need
>> to buy often.
>>
>> Thanks for the input.
>> -sv
>
>
>
>
> >


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[RBW] Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[Jordan]

Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).

It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.

How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
photos?

Thanks,
Jordan
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[RBW] Re: Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[Gino Zahnd]

What size tires are you running?

One thing you can use is aluminum spacers, which require longer bolts,
like I did here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/1678333665/in/set-72157602102746272/

And here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/1679280400/in/set-72157602102746272/

The other option is to use fatter tires, which I've done since taking
those photos a year and a half ago.

For a front SKS fender, it would be helpful to see photos of your
issue. I've always mounted SKS fenders forward of the fork, but if you
want to mount them in the rear of the fork, get Sheldon's Fender Nuts,
perhaps.
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/fenders_and_flaps#product=27-008

Gino in Chico



On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Jordan  wrote:
>
> Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
> Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
> and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
> annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
> clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).
>
> It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
> mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
> the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
> the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
> addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
> be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.
>
> How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
> photos?
>
> Thanks,
> Jordan
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[Steve Palincsar]

On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:33 -0700, Jordan wrote:
> Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
> Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
> and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
> annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
> clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).
> 
> It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
> mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
> the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
> the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
> addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
> be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.
> 
> How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
> photos?

Sometimes the design of a frame makes a good fender line very difficult
to achieve.  You can fix a problem at the chainstay bridge with spacers
- a friend of mine uses the full length of a wine cork on her Atlantis.
You can also refashion the fork crown bracket, and use spacers under the
fork crown.

My Velo Orange was remarkably easy to fit fenders to.  It was designed
for one particular tire, and the fittings were spec'd for the right
fenders to go with that width tire.  The Atlantis, on the other hand, is
meant to be used with a very wide range of tire widths.  The fittings
may be close to ideal with some size, not the one you're using... or
perhaps the bike simply wasn't designed with that in mind.  Many are
not.




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[RBW] Re: Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[Jordan]

Thank you both for the information.

I'll post some pictures of the fenders & Atlantis later today. That
will explain the situation more clearly than I can. I'm still learning
a lot about my Bike. In the meantime, here is a pre-fender photo of my
ride:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/2602078112/

I'm using Jack Browns (http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/
tires_tubes_pumps_patches?a=1&page=1#product=10-092), which is what
was recommended to me at Riv, where they built-up my bicycle. In most
cases I got "the usual" and I love these tires. It's a 33.33mm tire
and I'm using the 45mm SKS fenders, which are designed for this size
tire.

Cheers & Thanks,
Jordan

On Mar 9, 4:05 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:33 -0700, Jordan wrote:
> > Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
> > Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
> > and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
> > annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
> > clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).
>
> > It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
> > mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
> > the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
> > the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
> > addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
> > be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.
>
> > How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
> > photos?
>
> Sometimes the design of a frame makes a good fender line very difficult
> to achieve.  You can fix a problem at the chainstay bridge with spacers
> - a friend of mine uses the full length of a wine cork on her Atlantis.
> You can also refashion the fork crown bracket, and use spacers under the
> fork crown.
>
> My Velo Orange was remarkably easy to fit fenders to.  It was designed
> for one particular tire, and the fittings were spec'd for the right
> fenders to go with that width tire.  The Atlantis, on the other hand, is
> meant to be used with a very wide range of tire widths.  The fittings
> may be close to ideal with some size, not the one you're using... or
> perhaps the bike simply wasn't designed with that in mind.  Many are
> not.
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[RBW] Re: Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[J. Burkhalter]

Hey Jordan,

The Atlantis is designed with generous clearances, and I've never had
a problem achieving great fenders lines with my tires ranging from
1.5" to 2".  I have the 26" wheel version, but this'll apply to your
700c.  With a little patience and ingenuity you should get a great
fender line with most any tire you'd ride on the Atlantis.

I really like using old corks for rear fender spacing at the brake
bridge and chainstay bridge (preferably the wider ones from Belgium
Ales, but normal wine corks work just fine) .  They're cheap and
plentiful, so if you miss-drill one or cut one too short just grab
another.  Get some longer bolts at your LBS or local hardware store
(zip ties work just fine in a pinch, though).  Drill a hole lengthwise
through the cork and cut to desired length with a handsaw.  The SKS
fenders already have a hole for the bolt at the chainstay bridge, but
you'll need to make one at the brake bridge.  While holding the fender
in place mark the hole spot.  You can then drill this hole, but I've
found the reamer on a Swiss Army knife does the trick, too.  You can
use the supplied SKS sliding bridge mount here, but drilling and
spacing the fender is really easy, makes for a more secure connection,
and looks loads better.

For the front fender, you might be able to use a piece of the hardware
that came with the fender set to fashion an extension to the mounting
tang (the piece that's about 1.5" long and has 3 holes in it.  just
cut-off or bend-out-of-the-way any excess length).  Not glamorous or
picturesque, but it'll do.  Since the SKS fenders tend to be a bit on
the short side, I like to mount them on the front of the fork crown
and then install a mudflap to catch the bottom spray.

If this isn't making any sense, I'd be glad to post some pics.

-Jay
Asheville, NC

On Mar 9, 6:33 pm, Jordan  wrote:
> Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
> Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
> and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
> annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
> clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).
>
> It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
> mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
> the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
> the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
> addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
> be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.
>
> How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
> photos?
>
> Thanks,
> Jordan
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[RBW] Re: Mark's Rack on a Bombadil

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell at the U of W?

[rob markwardt]

Hey, he does look familar. That was me...if I'd have know it was a
Rivendell guy taking my picture I would have smiled;)!

On Mar 8, 10:34 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> I was around Sunday at 4:00 on my Quickbeam.  :)
>
> Is that Rob maybe?
>
> On Mar 8, 10:17 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
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>
>
> > Anybody on this list?  I took this photo on Saturday around 5 p.m.  
> > near the stadiium at the U of W.  Rider was on a Bleriot, I think.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/3340696100/sizes/o/
>
> > --Eric
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell at the U of W?

[Eric Norris]

Cool.  As I saw you go by, I said to my wife, "Hey, that was a  
Rivendell!"

BTW, we were there to see the Drumheller Fountain, where our Wheels  
North ride will end on July 16th.  Come see us there--or ride the last  
leg from Chehalis with us!

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On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:51 PM, rob markwardt wrote:

>
> Hey, he does look familar. That was me...if I'd have know it was a
> Rivendell guy taking my picture I would have smiled;)!
>
> On Mar 8, 10:34 pm, rcnute  wrote:
>> I was around Sunday at 4:00 on my Quickbeam.  :)
>>
>> Is that Rob maybe?
>>
>> On Mar 8, 10:17 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Anybody on this list?  I took this photo on Saturday around 5 p.m.
>>> near the stadiium at the U of W.  Rider was on a Bleriot, I think.
>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/3340696100/sizes/o/
>>
>>> --Eric
>>> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org- Hide  
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>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> >


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[RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

[David Estes]

Tim, hope you can make it out!

When I'm in S.D., I've always stayed at one of the Youth Hostels in
town.
I like the Point Loma one, but it is kind of out of the way.  Downtown one
is great location, but kind of loud.  Swing by Joshua Tree if you're out
this far away from home, you'll love the climbing and riding there, too!

Cheers,
David

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Timothy Whalen  wrote:

> Pls forgive me if this is slightly off topic.  I have been thinking about
> visiting San Diego and may head out to join this ride.  Any recommendations
> on where to stay for a few days, and/or what part of town is best to stay
> in.  I'll be riding and maybe rock climbing. Thanks,
> Tim Whalen
> Santa fe
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
> thill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The ride is this Sunday, meeting at the Oceanside Transit Center.
>> Start time is 10 AM (?) to coincide with the train schedule.
>>
>> On Mar 9, 11:23 am, Bruce Malm  wrote:
>> > After the Feb Riv Ride there was some mention of a March ride in the San
>> > Diego area corresponding to a visit from Jim Thill.  I've lost track of
>> that
>> > thread and was wondering if that ride is still going to occur and when
>> and
>> > where it will be?  Thanks
>> >
>> > Bruce
>>
>>
>
> >
>


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Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell at the U of W?

[Eric Norris]

P.S. You can see a video of our visit to the fountain at the Wheels  
North blog:

http://wheelsnorth.blogspot.com

--Eric
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On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:51 PM, rob markwardt wrote:

>
> Hey, he does look familar. That was me...if I'd have know it was a
> Rivendell guy taking my picture I would have smiled;)!
>
> On Mar 8, 10:34 pm, rcnute  wrote:
>> I was around Sunday at 4:00 on my Quickbeam.  :)
>>
>> Is that Rob maybe?
>>
>> On Mar 8, 10:17 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Anybody on this list?  I took this photo on Saturday around 5 p.m.
>>> near the stadiium at the U of W.  Rider was on a Bleriot, I think.
>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/3340696100/sizes/o/
>>
>>> --Eric
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[RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

[Doug Peterson]

A while back a buddy & I got a nice room at the Holiday Inn Downtown (the
round one just off I-5, near Little Italy) for something like $70 by doing a
bid on Priceline.  When you bid, you're submitting to several hotels so you
can get some interesting responses.  Another option is the old YMCA, near
the Amtrak station, has been converted to a hostel but I don't think it's
affiliated with the international system.  Friends have stayed there and say
the price is right but rooms are pretty tight with your bike.  Can't recall
the name but if you Google hostels in san diego it should come up.  

 

dougP

 

  _  

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

 

Tim, hope you can make it out!

When I'm in S.D., I've always stayed at one of the Youth Hostels in town
 .  I like the Point
Loma one, but it is kind of out of the way.  Downtown one is great location,
but kind of loud.  Swing by Joshua Tree if you're out this far away from
home, you'll love the climbing and riding there, too!

Cheers,
David

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Timothy Whalen  wrote:

Pls forgive me if this is slightly off topic.  I have been thinking about
visiting San Diego and may head out to join this ride.  Any recommendations
on where to stay for a few days, and/or what part of town is best to stay
in.  I'll be riding and maybe rock climbing.

Thanks,

Tim Whalen

Santa fe

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:


The ride is this Sunday, meeting at the Oceanside Transit Center.
Start time is 10 AM (?) to coincide with the train schedule.


On Mar 9, 11:23 am, Bruce Malm  wrote:
> After the Feb Riv Ride there was some mention of a March ride in the San
> Diego area corresponding to a visit from Jim Thill.  I've lost track of
that
> thread and was wondering if that ride is still going to occur and when and
> where it will be?  Thanks
>
> Bruce

 

 




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[RBW] Re: Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[Jordan]

Jay,

Great info, but in my ignorance it is a little hard for me to follow.
I love the idea of using old corks, and I'd love to see what that
looks like on your bike. Your post also gave me a great excuse to buy
some fancy beer. So, will this kind of cork do?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3342709669/in/set-72157614978912773/.
If not, I may have to buy some wine. =)


Gino,

Some quick pics of my current setup are up:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3342709669/in/set-72157614978912773/

Of particular note for me is this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3343541884/in/set-72157614978912773/

I didn't mind my toe clearance too much before, but with my fenders as
far out as they are now it seems pretty untenable.


Steve,

Those Velo bikes look sweet. This is my first "nice" bike, so I hope
the versatility of the Atlantis was a smart move for me. My next bike
will be an inexpensive city ride, but down the road I'd love a bike
along the lines of the VO Randonneur. There is already a place in my
heart for a Hilsen, or a custom bike similar to it.

...of course, a motorcycle and a yacht would be cool too.

-Jordan

I'm loving the
On Mar 9, 6:30 pm, "J. Burkhalter"  wrote:
> Hey Jordan,
>
> The Atlantis is designed with generous clearances, and I've never had
> a problem achieving great fenders lines with my tires ranging from
> 1.5" to 2".  I have the 26" wheel version, but this'll apply to your
> 700c.  With a little patience and ingenuity you should get a great
> fender line with most any tire you'd ride on the Atlantis.
>
> I really like using old corks for rear fender spacing at the brake
> bridge and chainstay bridge (preferably the wider ones from Belgium
> Ales, but normal wine corks work just fine) .  They're cheap and
> plentiful, so if you miss-drill one or cut one too short just grab
> another.  Get some longer bolts at your LBS or local hardware store
> (zip ties work just fine in a pinch, though).  Drill a hole lengthwise
> through the cork and cut to desired length with a handsaw.  The SKS
> fenders already have a hole for the bolt at the chainstay bridge, but
> you'll need to make one at the brake bridge.  While holding the fender
> in place mark the hole spot.  You can then drill this hole, but I've
> found the reamer on a Swiss Army knife does the trick, too.  You can
> use the supplied SKS sliding bridge mount here, but drilling and
> spacing the fender is really easy, makes for a more secure connection,
> and looks loads better.
>
> For the front fender, you might be able to use a piece of the hardware
> that came with the fender set to fashion an extension to the mounting
> tang (the piece that's about 1.5" long and has 3 holes in it.  just
> cut-off or bend-out-of-the-way any excess length).  Not glamorous or
> picturesque, but it'll do.  Since the SKS fenders tend to be a bit on
> the short side, I like to mount them on the front of the fork crown
> and then install a mudflap to catch the bottom spray.
>
> If this isn't making any sense, I'd be glad to post some pics.
>
> -Jay
> Asheville, NC
>
> On Mar 9, 6:33 pm, Jordan  wrote:
>
> > Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
> > Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
> > and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
> > annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
> > clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).
>
> > It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
> > mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
> > the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
> > the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
> > addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
> > be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.
>
> > How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
> > photos?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Jordan
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[RBW] Re: So Cal March Riv Ride

[Esteban]

Well, a local might be the worst person to ask about hotels...depends
on what you're looking for.  The hostels are a good idea - lots of
botique hotels around town (The Pearl in Pt. Loma) and the regular
kind of places.  Lots of variety in where to stay - Downtown, North
County, the desert, mountains, etc.

Anyway - hope you make it for the ride - should be great.

On Mar 9, 9:21 pm, "Doug Peterson"  wrote:
> A while back a buddy & I got a nice room at the Holiday Inn Downtown (the
> round one just off I-5, near Little Italy) for something like $70 by doing a
> bid on Priceline.  When you bid, you're submitting to several hotels so you
> can get some interesting responses.  Another option is the old YMCA, near
> the Amtrak station, has been converted to a hostel but I don't think it's
> affiliated with the international system.  Friends have stayed there and say
> the price is right but rooms are pretty tight with your bike.  Can't recall
> the name but if you Google hostels in san diego it should come up.  
>
> dougP
>
>   _  
>
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Estes
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:11 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Re: March Riv Ride
>
> Tim, hope you can make it out!
>
> When I'm in S.D., I've always stayed at one of the Youth Hostels in town
>  .  I like the Point
> Loma one, but it is kind of out of the way.  Downtown one is great location,
> but kind of loud.  Swing by Joshua Tree if you're out this far away from
> home, you'll love the climbing and riding there, too!
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Timothy Whalen  wrote:
>
> Pls forgive me if this is slightly off topic.  I have been thinking about
> visiting San Diego and may head out to join this ride.  Any recommendations
> on where to stay for a few days, and/or what part of town is best to stay
> in.  I'll be riding and maybe rock climbing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Whalen
>
> Santa fe
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>
>  wrote:
>
> The ride is this Sunday, meeting at the Oceanside Transit Center.
> Start time is 10 AM (?) to coincide with the train schedule.
>
> On Mar 9, 11:23 am, Bruce Malm  wrote:
>
> > After the Feb Riv Ride there was some mention of a March ride in the San
> > Diego area corresponding to a visit from Jim Thill.  I've lost track of
> that
> > thread and was wondering if that ride is still going to occur and when and
> > where it will be?  Thanks
>
> > Bruce
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
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[RBW] Re: Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[Gino Zahnd]

Here's a wine cork spacer, which serves the same function as my little
aluminum ones:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluelemonphoto/2613409899/

Get a longer bolt, and run it through the length of the cork (drill it
out first!).

That bike was made for fatties, and if I had an Atlantis, I'd run 'em
a lot fatter than 33.333. The fatter tire would fill up all that space
too.  But, that's just me!

Gino




On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Jordan  wrote:
>
> Jay,
>
> Great info, but in my ignorance it is a little hard for me to follow.
> I love the idea of using old corks, and I'd love to see what that
> looks like on your bike. Your post also gave me a great excuse to buy
> some fancy beer. So, will this kind of cork do?
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3342709669/in/set-72157614978912773/.
> If not, I may have to buy some wine. =)
>
>
> Gino,
>
> Some quick pics of my current setup are up:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3342709669/in/set-72157614978912773/
>
> Of particular note for me is this one:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3343541884/in/set-72157614978912773/
>
> I didn't mind my toe clearance too much before, but with my fenders as
> far out as they are now it seems pretty untenable.
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Those Velo bikes look sweet. This is my first "nice" bike, so I hope
> the versatility of the Atlantis was a smart move for me. My next bike
> will be an inexpensive city ride, but down the road I'd love a bike
> along the lines of the VO Randonneur. There is already a place in my
> heart for a Hilsen, or a custom bike similar to it.
>
> ...of course, a motorcycle and a yacht would be cool too.
>
> -Jordan
>
> I'm loving the
> On Mar 9, 6:30 pm, "J. Burkhalter"  wrote:
>> Hey Jordan,
>>
>> The Atlantis is designed with generous clearances, and I've never had
>> a problem achieving great fenders lines with my tires ranging from
>> 1.5" to 2".  I have the 26" wheel version, but this'll apply to your
>> 700c.  With a little patience and ingenuity you should get a great
>> fender line with most any tire you'd ride on the Atlantis.
>>
>> I really like using old corks for rear fender spacing at the brake
>> bridge and chainstay bridge (preferably the wider ones from Belgium
>> Ales, but normal wine corks work just fine) .  They're cheap and
>> plentiful, so if you miss-drill one or cut one too short just grab
>> another.  Get some longer bolts at your LBS or local hardware store
>> (zip ties work just fine in a pinch, though).  Drill a hole lengthwise
>> through the cork and cut to desired length with a handsaw.  The SKS
>> fenders already have a hole for the bolt at the chainstay bridge, but
>> you'll need to make one at the brake bridge.  While holding the fender
>> in place mark the hole spot.  You can then drill this hole, but I've
>> found the reamer on a Swiss Army knife does the trick, too.  You can
>> use the supplied SKS sliding bridge mount here, but drilling and
>> spacing the fender is really easy, makes for a more secure connection,
>> and looks loads better.
>>
>> For the front fender, you might be able to use a piece of the hardware
>> that came with the fender set to fashion an extension to the mounting
>> tang (the piece that's about 1.5" long and has 3 holes in it.  just
>> cut-off or bend-out-of-the-way any excess length).  Not glamorous or
>> picturesque, but it'll do.  Since the SKS fenders tend to be a bit on
>> the short side, I like to mount them on the front of the fork crown
>> and then install a mudflap to catch the bottom spray.
>>
>> If this isn't making any sense, I'd be glad to post some pics.
>>
>> -Jay
>> Asheville, NC
>>
>> On Mar 9, 6:33 pm, Jordan  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
>> > Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
>> > and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
>> > annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
>> > clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).
>>
>> > It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
>> > mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
>> > the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
>> > the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
>> > addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
>> > be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.
>>
>> > How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
>> > photos?
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jordan
> >
>

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[RBW] Saluki and Big Wood Hetre

[Gino Zahnd]

Tonight I put a pair of 650 x 42B Grand Bois Hetres on my
canti-Saluki.  I've heard great things about them, the most important
of which is that they don't get flats like the ballet-slipper-like
Grand Bois Cypres. I've also read and heard first hand accounts that
the Hetre is quite long-lived. I'm skeptical right now, still. I
haven't ridden them, except up the road in front of my house and back.

A few things to note:
- The canti-luki easily, with no fiddling or rigging whatsoever,
swallows the Hetre tire with Honjo fenders.
- These tires, for a road-ish bike, look huge. They're pluffy, silent,
and seem like they'll be very comfortable.
- My current Honjos are 45mm, which I've used with CDLV tires until
this point. If I end up liking this tire size and durability, I'll
move up to the 50mm, which will still easily fit.

The biggest thing I've noticed in the one-whole-minute riding the
Hetre is how quiet this tire is compared to the squibbly CDLV. I like
that tire. I've toured on it, camped on it, I commute/run errands on
it almost every day, and it's a good, durable tire. It isn't fast, and
boy, is it loud!  But for the price, you really can't beat it, and
it's still the go-to tire on my daily driver.

I'll report back after a few hundred miles on the Large Beech Wood.

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[RBW] Re: Looking for tips for Mounting Fenders

[Jordan]

Fixed link for the photos I took today: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/sets/72157614978912773/

Sorry 'bout that.

On Mar 9, 9:35 pm, Jordan  wrote:
> Jay,
>
> Great info, but in my ignorance it is a little hard for me to follow.
> I love the idea of using old corks, and I'd love to see what that
> looks like on your bike. Your post also gave me a great excuse to buy
> some fancy beer. So, will this kind of cork 
> do?http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3342709669/in/set-72157614978912773/.
> If not, I may have to buy some wine. =)
>
> Gino,
>
> Some quick pics of my current setup are 
> up:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3342709669/in/set-72157614978912773/
>
> Of particular note for me is this 
> one:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jibbah/3343541884/in/set-72157614978912773/
>
> I didn't mind my toe clearance too much before, but with my fenders as
> far out as they are now it seems pretty untenable.
>
> Steve,
>
> Those Velo bikes look sweet. This is my first "nice" bike, so I hope
> the versatility of the Atlantis was a smart move for me. My next bike
> will be an inexpensive city ride, but down the road I'd love a bike
> along the lines of the VO Randonneur. There is already a place in my
> heart for a Hilsen, or a custom bike similar to it.
>
> ...of course, a motorcycle and a yacht would be cool too.
>
> -Jordan
>
> I'm loving the
> On Mar 9, 6:30 pm, "J. Burkhalter"  wrote:
>
> > Hey Jordan,
>
> > The Atlantis is designed with generous clearances, and I've never had
> > a problem achieving great fenders lines with my tires ranging from
> > 1.5" to 2".  I have the 26" wheel version, but this'll apply to your
> > 700c.  With a little patience and ingenuity you should get a great
> > fender line with most any tire you'd ride on the Atlantis.
>
> > I really like using old corks for rear fender spacing at the brake
> > bridge and chainstay bridge (preferably the wider ones from Belgium
> > Ales, but normal wine corks work just fine) .  They're cheap and
> > plentiful, so if you miss-drill one or cut one too short just grab
> > another.  Get some longer bolts at your LBS or local hardware store
> > (zip ties work just fine in a pinch, though).  Drill a hole lengthwise
> > through the cork and cut to desired length with a handsaw.  The SKS
> > fenders already have a hole for the bolt at the chainstay bridge, but
> > you'll need to make one at the brake bridge.  While holding the fender
> > in place mark the hole spot.  You can then drill this hole, but I've
> > found the reamer on a Swiss Army knife does the trick, too.  You can
> > use the supplied SKS sliding bridge mount here, but drilling and
> > spacing the fender is really easy, makes for a more secure connection,
> > and looks loads better.
>
> > For the front fender, you might be able to use a piece of the hardware
> > that came with the fender set to fashion an extension to the mounting
> > tang (the piece that's about 1.5" long and has 3 holes in it.  just
> > cut-off or bend-out-of-the-way any excess length).  Not glamorous or
> > picturesque, but it'll do.  Since the SKS fenders tend to be a bit on
> > the short side, I like to mount them on the front of the fork crown
> > and then install a mudflap to catch the bottom spray.
>
> > If this isn't making any sense, I'd be glad to post some pics.
>
> > -Jay
> > Asheville, NC
>
> > On Mar 9, 6:33 pm, Jordan  wrote:
>
> > > Hi folks. I've recently had some SKS fenders mounted on my Atlantis.
> > > Unfortunately, I'm not really happy with the results. Both the front
> > > and rear fenders extend pretty far from the tire. This is especially
> > > annoying with the front tire, as I already didn't have a lot of toe
> > > clearance (I'm on a 63 Atlantis 2 with 700's).
>
> > > It looks like both front and rear fenders are limited by a hard
> > > mounting. In the case of the front fender, it's the mounting behind
> > > the fork. I don't see how it could go any lower. For the rear fender,
> > > the issue is the fastening to the bottom bracket. Both of these seem
> > > addressable with the right hardware, but I'm not sure what that would
> > > be. The parts that came with the fenders don't seem to do the job.
>
> > > How can I get a nice close-to-the-tire mounting like I've seen in many
> > > photos?
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jordan
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