[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
> Before I've used the old fashioned kind & with annual cleaning & re-packing > with Phil's grease (really sticky stuff; does not wash out), have never had > any problem. I have 20+ year old BBs that are still good. > 7K seems low unless it's seen very tough service - lots of water, grit, > off-road. Slightly OT, but this touches on something that really caught my eye at the Antbike sight: http://www.flickr.com/photos/antbikemike/3239939188/ Mike has the new Boston Roadster - top tube and mixte (although he rather charmingly refers to them as gents and ladies) prototypes ready for NAHBS. Note he is using good old fashioned American Style one piece cranks. They add a little weight no doubt. But for daily commuting and around town use, the durability and ease of maintenance is a real positive. I imagine Mike will get some push back on that and the coaster brake. I think both are splendid. I would not be surprised to learn Riv's Taiwan manufacturer makes similar bikes for the Taiwan and other Asian markets. I think a Hilbourne set up with similar features would be a swell commuter. On Feb 5, 11:29 pm, "Doug Peterson" wrote: > I have 6 years & 20k miles on the Shimano UN-72 that came in my Atlantis. I > pull the cranks every year or 2 to check to see if it's still smooth or has > any play. Still OK. This is my first cartridge BB. > Before I've used the old fashioned kind & with annual cleaning & re-packing > with Phil's grease (really sticky stuff; does not wash out), have never had > any problem. I have 20+ year old BBs that are still good. > 7K seems low unless it's seen very tough service - lots of water, grit, > off-road. > > dougP > > > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Rognstad Jr. > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:13 PM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Phil Wood Bottom Bracket > > I am overhauling my Canti Rom to get ready for the brevet season and > have found that the bearings in the bottom bracket are shot. I only put > about 7,000 miles on it over the last two seasons. I did have several > long rides in pouring rain. Is this typical or should I have gotten > more miles out of it? My LBS is in the process of talking to Phil Wood.- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
Peter White has said before that premature failure of a Phil bottom bracket is due to the bottom bracket shell threads not being aligned. Here's an excerpt from one of these discussions: "For a Phil Wood BB to last, the frame's BB threads must be chased with a tool that indexes one side of the shell with the other so that the threads on each side share a common axis. Campagnolo and a few other companies make tooling that, when used properly, ensures that the threading is correct, and then, and only then, will you get the full life of the Phil Wood bearings." from here: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=touring.10709.0545.eml Makes sense to me. John McMurry Burlington, VT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 06:38 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > > Before I've used the old fashioned kind & with annual cleaning & re-packing > > with Phil's grease (really sticky stuff; does not wash out), have never had > > any problem. I have 20+ year old BBs that are still good. > > 7K seems low unless it's seen very tough service - lots of water, grit, > > off-road. > > Slightly OT, but this touches on something that really caught my eye > at the Antbike sight: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/antbikemike/3239939188/ > > Mike has the new Boston Roadster - top tube and mixte (although he > rather charmingly refers to them as gents and ladies) prototypes > ready for NAHBS. Note he is using good old fashioned American Style > one piece cranks. > > They add a little weight no doubt. But for daily commuting and around > town use, the durability and ease of maintenance is a real positive. > I imagine Mike will get some push back on that and the coaster brake. > I think both are splendid. > > I would not be surprised to learn Riv's Taiwan manufacturer makes > similar bikes for the Taiwan and other Asian markets. I think a > Hilbourne set up with similar features would be a swell commuter. Mike writes about that bike on his blog: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/website-and-old-email-down/ It's going to be reviewed by Bicycling magazine in the May 2009 issue. If you look at the flickr site you might notice, both bikes feature Velo Orange saddles. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
this has also happened to me. twice. first time, i thought maybe the bb shell wasn't properly machined, so I had the threads chased and made sure that would no longer be an issue. the second time I detected premature wear (same bike/bb shell), the advice I got regarding installation was to tighten the cups down as one normally would, then back them off 1/8 of a turn - this kind of confirms Jim's suspicion about a "too tight" installation. in any event, there's no doubt that they are great bb's when installed just right. but it has to be *just* right. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
I will have break down and finally buy a Bicycling Magazine again. Been years. Thanks for pointing out the saddles are VO. I did not look closely and just assumed they were Brooks. I understand Mike is working hard to keep the price below $2k. VO saddles fit the bill. A Hillbourne similarly kitted might come in a little above. But it would be a fun bike. I think Mike would appreciate the mimicry, as his main focus is to get people using bikes every day, even if they are not his. On Feb 6, 9:39 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 06:38 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > Before I've used the old fashioned kind & with annual cleaning & > > > re-packing > > > with Phil's grease (really sticky stuff; does not wash out), have never > > > had > > > any problem. I have 20+ year old BBs that are still good. > > > 7K seems low unless it's seen very tough service - lots of water, grit, > > > off-road. > > > Slightly OT, but this touches on something that really caught my eye > > at the Antbike sight: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/antbikemike/3239939188/ > > > Mike has the new Boston Roadster - top tube and mixte (although he > > rather charmingly refers to them as gents and ladies) prototypes > > ready for NAHBS. Note he is using good old fashioned American Style > > one piece cranks. > > > They add a little weight no doubt. But for daily commuting and around > > town use, the durability and ease of maintenance is a real positive. > > I imagine Mike will get some push back on that and the coaster brake. > > I think both are splendid. > > > I would not be surprised to learn Riv's Taiwan manufacturer makes > > similar bikes for the Taiwan and other Asian markets. I think a > > Hilbourne set up with similar features would be a swell commuter. > > Mike writes about that bike on his > blog:http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/website-and-old-email-down/ > It's going to be reviewed by Bicycling magazine in the May 2009 issue. > If you look at the flickr site you might notice, both bikes feature Velo > Orange saddles.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
This has happened to me (on my canti-rom, coincidentally), and now I favor Shimano UN-54 BBs, which tend to last a long time. I can get six of those for the price of one Phil. Just the Phil replacement bearings cost more than the Shimano BB, so I can't quite understand the long- term value of spending the extra dough on the Phil BB. Phil includes a little bottle of thread adhesive with their BB rings. If you use grease on the threads instead of thread-adhesive, which is a tempting shortcut, the BB will eventually loosen up unless you really torque it down. My suspicion is that having it installed too tightly stresses the bearings such that they wear prematurely. On Feb 5, 10:13 pm, "Ralph Rognstad Jr." wrote: > I am overhauling my Canti Rom to get ready for the brevet season and > have found that the bearings in the bottom bracket are shot. I only put > about 7,000 miles on it over the last two seasons. I did have several > long rides in pouring rain. Is this typical or should I have gotten > more miles out of it? My LBS is in the process of talking to Phil Wood. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] List-Adminy Thing or Two
Hey all - This past week, I've been getting larger-than-normal slugs of enterprising internet marketing attempts. I'm pretty sure that in the last batch or two, a couple of posts by real members got thrown out with the bathwater. If something you posted didn't show up, you might resubmit it. As of right now (8 am Friday), there are no "held" posts in the queue. Please note that all initial posts by new members are moderated. Even though you may have been a group member for a while, unless you've posted, you're still a "new member"... And, another thing which has been on my mind - Many of the new member posts are responses to "For Sale" postings. Although I try to pass along all posts quickly, there are times when 12 or 24 hours may go by before I can get to it. I feel a bit badly that contact gets delayed, especially on those things which are of high interest, as you may miss out on that chance to nab that item you've been looking for. However, I've noted before that unless it's a general question about the item that is of interest to the group, the best thing to do is contact the seller directly, rather than through the list. Because the RBW Group is default as the "Send/Reply" address, you need to change it in order to reply directly to the seller. And, I do want to thank people for continuing to keep things civil and respectful - as many of the original group-folks know, I worry about this time of year (Feb/March). Historically on other lists, it's when cabin-fever can get the best of people, and innocuous threads ratchet up to really rough levels. Thanks! - Jim "...yeah, I _really_ gotta do an SOTL Update..." -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I just took a look at them. I still like the tubular shape of the Carradices. I bought the Hoss when it came out and found that it wouldn't ride on the top of my Nitto expedition rear rack. That little bar that sticks up on the front of the rack stuck right up through the bottom of the Hoss. With the camper longflap, I can just roatate the bag backward and rest it on the rack, with the seatpost strap going around that little upright bit that caused the problem with the Hoss. When I tried to rotate the Hoss back, it pointed up into the air. I finally sold the Hoss on Ebay. It looks like the Sackville bags may have the same problem. For now, it looks like I'm wedded to the Carradice Camper Longflap. It's become an old and comfortable companion. I can understand Grant wanting to have his own line of bags, but I don't understand why they ever dropped Carradice. They seem like great bags. Paul Cooley Santa Fe, NM On Feb 5, 8:38 am, b hamon wrote: > Anyone out in Riv-land planning on buying one of these new bags? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
On Feb 6, 11:32 am, pcooley wrote: > I just took a look at them. I still like the tubular shape of the > Carradices. I bought the Hoss when it came out and found that it > wouldn't ride on the top of my Nitto expedition rear rack. That > little bar that sticks up on the front of the rack stuck right up > through the bottom of the Hoss. I appears that's not an issue on Sackville bags: http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//2652/20-133c.jpg John McMurry Burlington, VT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
The large Sackville at 23L is the same size as the Carradice Super C or Camper but the Sackville costs twice as much. The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like the boxy shape. Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle strap buckles outside the bag. Maybe you an do that and not have too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags as I see there's a pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the saddlebag tight up against the saddle and you do that by fastening the buckles inside the bag. I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, that's what real cyclists used ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
I don't remember seeing this on the Phil Wood Web site, nor the required tool. If it's that critical Phil ought to be selling a simple tool to check it. What about other cartridge bb, like White or King? Do they have the same sensitivities? Michael Westford, Vt On Feb 6, 10:20 am, John McMurry wrote: > Peter White has said before that premature failure of a Phil bottom > bracket is due to the bottom bracket shell threads not being aligned. > > Here's an excerpt from one of these discussions: > > "For a Phil Wood BB to last, the frame's BB threads must be chased > with a > tool that indexes one side of the shell with the other so that the > threads on each side share a common axis. Campagnolo and a few other > companies make tooling that, when used properly, ensures that the > threading is correct, and then, and only then, will you get the full > life of the Phil Wood bearings." > > from here: > > http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=touring.10709.0545.eml > > Makes sense to me. > > John McMurry > Burlington, VT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I recall something probably in a RR a few years ago (maybe when Baggins came out?) that delivery of Carradice was spotty. I looked at Carradice on Wallingford yesterday & lots of stuff out of stock, and Peter White's inventory updates are months old. So Grant may have been trying to fill a demand. OTH, I don't know how you'd ever figure out what to stock. I love all the options Carradice has but it must drive a retailer nuts. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of pcooley Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:32 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? I just took a look at them. I still like the tubular shape of the Carradices. I bought the Hoss when it came out and found that it wouldn't ride on the top of my Nitto expedition rear rack. That little bar that sticks up on the front of the rack stuck right up through the bottom of the Hoss. With the camper longflap, I can just roatate the bag backward and rest it on the rack, with the seatpost strap going around that little upright bit that caused the problem with the Hoss. When I tried to rotate the Hoss back, it pointed up into the air. I finally sold the Hoss on Ebay. It looks like the Sackville bags may have the same problem. For now, it looks like I'm wedded to the Carradice Camper Longflap. It's become an old and comfortable companion. I can understand Grant wanting to have his own line of bags, but I don't understand why they ever dropped Carradice. They seem like great bags. Paul Cooley Santa Fe, NM On Feb 5, 8:38 am, b hamon wrote: > Anyone out in Riv-land planning on buying one of these new bags? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
On Feb 6, 2:50 pm, "Doug Peterson" wrote: > I recall something probably in a RR a few years ago (maybe when Baggins came > out?) that delivery of Carradice was spotty. I looked at Carradice on > Wallingford yesterday & lots of stuff out of stock, and Peter White's > inventory updates are months old. So Grant may have been trying to fill a > demand. I'd bet that the recession is causing low inventories. I believe that *all* merchants will have low inventories in the coming months. And given the amount of Chinese imports in the US, and the number of factory closures in China, we may soon be unable to buy what we want in the coming year. So, if there's something that you've been thinking about buying, you'd better get it now before it is no longer available. (For example, RBW has said that their hemp twine supplier is closing down.) (Been waiting 2+ months for my Cyo to arrive, at Peter White, from Germany.) I've been a little surprised that RBW has been introducing a lot more items in the last few months as compared to all of last year. > OTH, I don't know how you'd ever figure out what to stock. I love all the > options Carradice has but it must drive a retailer nuts. > > dougP robert > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of pcooley > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:32 AM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? > > I just took a look at them. I still like the tubular shape of the > Carradices. I bought the Hoss when it came out and found that it > wouldn't ride on the top of my Nitto expedition rear rack. That > little bar that sticks up on the front of the rack stuck right up > through the bottom of the Hoss. With the camper longflap, I can just > roatate the bag backward and rest it on the rack, with the seatpost > strap going around that little upright bit that caused the problem > with the Hoss. When I tried to rotate the Hoss back, it pointed up > into the air. I finally sold the Hoss on Ebay. > > It looks like the Sackville bags may have the same problem. > > For now, it looks like I'm wedded to the Carradice Camper Longflap. > It's become an old and comfortable companion. I can understand Grant > wanting to have his own line of bags, but I don't understand why they > ever dropped Carradice. They seem like great bags. > > Paul Cooley > Santa Fe, NM > > On Feb 5, 8:38 am, b hamon wrote: > > > Anyone out in Riv-land planning on buying one of these new bags? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM, k5osx wrote: > > On Feb 6, 2:50 pm, "Doug Peterson" wrote: >> I recall something probably in a RR a few years ago (maybe when Baggins came >> out?) that delivery of Carradice was spotty. I looked at Carradice on >> Wallingford yesterday & lots of stuff out of stock, and Peter White's >> inventory updates are months old. So Grant may have been trying to fill a >> demand. > > I'd bet that the recession is causing low inventories. I believe that > *all* > merchants will have low inventories in the coming months. And given > the amount of Chinese imports in the US, and the number of factory > closures > in China, we may soon be unable to buy what we want in the coming > year. So, > if there's something that you've been thinking about buying, you'd > better get it > now before it is no longer available. (For example, RBW has said that > their > hemp twine supplier is closing down.) > > (Been waiting 2+ months for my Cyo to arrive, at Peter White, from > Germany.) > > I've been a little surprised that RBW has been introducing a lot more > items > in the last few months as compared to all of last year. Wallingford has has Carradice supply problems for years, i don't think it's anything new, though it could be worse over the last year. It seems from Grant's writing on the new products that most of them are bourne partly from a desire for their own style, partly because existing supplies are unreliable. Carradice used to make a line of bags for RBW too, but i don't think those existed very long, maybe just a catalog or two? -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
FYI if you are looking for Carradice Bags with the weak dollar it seems to make sense to order them directly from England if you are looking to save a few bucks. Saint Johns Strees Cycles seems to have a good supply http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/ Dan Abelson Saint Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I also have a Bleriot and would be interested in seeing pictures of your bike with bag installed. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 10:06 PM I ordered the large one and plan to keep it on my Bleriot. That bike is most frequently ridden on errands or on weekends with my wife and two kids, who at 5 and 8 are adept cyclists, but not yet able to carry much. I typically carry lunch for 4, extra layers for the boys, a stuffed something or other, and anything we buy at the local markets. I have an old Baggins Hoss on my Quickbeam and like it a lot, but this bag looks more substantial, formed, and potentially useful. On Feb 5, 7:38 am, b hamon wrote: > I just got a look at the new Sackville bags over at the RBW Web site. > Wow, they're humungous. The "Large" is the largest large I've seen in a regular-shaped saddlebag (I think it's bigger than the Carradice Camper by a little bit). > > Anyone out in Riv-land planning on buying one of these new bags? > > I don't plan to; I only have two "regular" bikes and they're both suitably saddlebagged at present. (Also, I don't yet know how I feel, exactly, about a saddlebag that comes with its own engraved serial number plate.) But I'm quite curious to hear if anyone is planning to purchase one and what uses are planned for it. (The idea that a saddlebag is spec'd to fit a 14" laptop certainly makes the case for ditching your briefcase pannier...) > > Beth > > http://bikelovejones.livejournal.comhttp://veloquent.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I'm torn with them. On the one hand, yeah, they are too fussy loking. On the other, they really look like the bees knees of bags. Whether I get the medium or not is still being debated. Right now, though, would rather have an olive tweed big loafer to match my lil' loaf. Going to run the Atlantis with a Nitto top rack, and those two bags together should handle most day rides that don't involve shopping. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Feb 6, 1:56�pm, usuk2007 wrote: > The large Sackville at 23L is the same size as the Carradice Super C > or Camper > but the Sackville costs twice as much. > > The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like the > boxy shape. > Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle strap buckles outside > the bag. Maybe > you an do that and not have too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags > as I > see there's a pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the > saddlebag tight up > against the saddle and you do that by fastening the buckles inside the > bag. > > I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, > that's what real cyclists used ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] secrets for mounting fenders and the nitto big rack
Hi, I've got some wood fenders with the same kind of stays as come on the honjos and other metal fenders. I'm trying to mount the rear one but I can't get the stays around the lower tab on the nitto rack. I've been looking on flickr pictures to see how other people have worked around this but I can't tell if they're just bending the stay or what. Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions/experience on this, I'd love to hear if others have some words of guidance. thanks, -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Hi Doug! Thanks. I vow to take some new, new photos this spring/summer to send to Cyclofiend's website. I've been dragging my feet on that for far too long. Anyway, the basket is the Rivendell/Wald small. It's a great fit. And it has worked out so well w/ all the different sorts of riding this bike sees: commute to the office, brevet, after work 50K exercise, groceries, S24O...I've since outfitted three of our bikes, including our tandem, w/ the same basket. Yeah, that's a 105 FD. Model 5504. The saddle bag is a Carradice Nelson Long Flap. I had no idea what to get, and the old riv list and PJW coached me through it. It turns out that that size is really versatile for me. It works well. My roadie friends don't understand it though. The front is an old Carradice boxy bag on a Nitto clamp-on rack. I bought it all used off of the iBOB list. It was in great shape. I was looking for the old Rivendell Boxy, and I didn't even know that Carradice had made one. It's very convenient at that level...for map reading and for fishing around for a snack or camera or phone (oops) while riding. However, I think it induced quite a bit of shimmy one long, dark, rainy, windy, cold, lonely night on my last 400K. I likely had it over loaded though. Even though I really like the basket, I'm tempted to try a Berthoud ($ $), or at least mount the Carradice Boxy on the front rack, for brevets and see how that works. I've got Paul Comp Neo-Retro Cantis on the front. There's plenty of clearance for the straddle wire when I'm using my summer wheels. However, when I mount my SnowCat, it's a bit of work to get it all to work correctly. It does work though. Luckily in the winter I find it really challenging to break that 10 mph barrier. Therefore, I can mostly rely on the rear brake...or my feet. ;-) Gosh, we were fortunate enough to hit Maui the last three years. Wonderful riding!! There's not a better way to experience Maui than riding the back roads. We're staying home this year for obvious reasons. But since I like the islands so much...I'm designing a 200K permanent on Kodiak! Just waiting on the approval from the mother ship now. Stay tuned...it'll be a knock-out! Kevin Spread the word: http://alaskarandonneurs.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
Wallingford has has Carradice supply problems for years, i don't think it's anything new, though it could be worse over the last year. It seems from Grant's writing on the new products that most of them are bourne partly from a desire for their own style, partly because existing supplies are unreliable. Carradice used to make a line of bags for RBW too, but i don't think those existed very long, maybe just a catalog or two? -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN [dougpnirv] Wasn't the entire Hobo, Hoss, Adam, etc saddlebag collection the Baggins line? And panniers too? Now Baggins is the bar tube, Lil & Big Loafers. It's nice to have your own stuff made just the way you want it but unless you can carry inventory (expensive!) you're at the mercy of your suppliers. I still want a medium Sackville. dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I'll second that. Please post photos of the bag on the bike so we can get an idea of scale. Load it up. Then a photo of all the stuff that went into the bag, spread out, with some common item like a loaf of bread for scale comparison. Knowing it's 23 liters is helpful but I know 30 bottles of wine won't fit. dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Dinneen Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:45 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? I also have a Bleriot and would be interested in seeing pictures of your bike with bag installed. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 10:06 PM I ordered the large one and plan to keep it on my Bleriot. That bike is most frequently ridden on errands or on weekends with my wife and two kids, who at 5 and 8 are adept cyclists, but not yet able to carry much. I typically carry lunch for 4, extra layers for the boys, a stuffed something or other, and anything we buy at the local markets. I have an old Baggins Hoss on my Quickbeam and like it a lot, but this bag looks more substantial, formed, and potentially useful. On Feb 5, 7:38 am, b hamon wrote: > I just got a look at the new Sackville bags over at the RBW Web site. > Wow, they're humungous. The "Large" is the largest large I've seen in a regular-shaped saddlebag (I think it's bigger than the Carradice Camper by a little bit). > > Anyone out in Riv-land planning on buying one of these new bags? > > I don't plan to; I only have two "regular" bikes and they're both suitably saddlebagged at present. (Also, I don't yet know how I feel, exactly, about a saddlebag that comes with its own engraved serial number plate.) But I'm quite curious to hear if anyone is planning to purchase one and what uses are planned for it. (The idea that a saddlebag is spec'd to fit a 14" laptop certainly makes the case for ditching your briefcase pannier...) > > Beth > > http://bikelovejones.livejournal.comhttp://veloquent.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Hi David, You know...it really wasn't too difficult to freshen up the chain-suck mess. I'll post a Flickr photo showing how it turned out. You can sort of see the primer in this photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28720...@n02/3054481627/ All I did was wet-sand the area w/ emory paper of progressively finer grits until it was moderately smooth, then masked the area off and sprayed it w/ multiple, thin coats of rattle-can primer. Go for it. I was really hesitant at first. But now that I've done it...no problem! It's an easy fix. I probably should've painted over it, but I wanted to go for a ride. Contact me if you have any questions. I can send you other photos directly, too. Kevin Spread the word: http://alaskarandonneurs.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
Why don't you just take the two saddle straps out and re-thread them back with the buckles inside the bag, with only a tight loop coming out of the slot and fastening to the saddle ring? It's easy. Lisa > On Feb 6, 1:56�pm, usuk2007 wrote: > > The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like > > the boxy shape. Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle > > strap buckles outside the bag. Maybe you an do that and not have > > too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags as I see there's a > > pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the saddlebag > > tight up against the saddle and you do that by fastening the > > buckles inside the bag. > > I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, > > that's what real cyclists used ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Phil Wood Bottom Bracket
I've never had this problem, but then I've not put more than about 2-3K miles on the ones mounted on production frames. (One was already very old when I installed it.) As for the Phils on the 2 custom Rivs, one has ~ 5500 miles and the other ~9,500, and both feel as they did when new. The third: I forget how many, but it was on a Waterford Riv and racked up many good miles without problem. The other chichi bbs I used -- Sampson, Am Classic, Grafton, Syncros, at least one other whose name I forget but Perf sold it for a while -- did not call for this task in their instructions; and again, no problems, at least in 2-3K miles. So, I expect this is one of those situations where half the user population had problems while the other half did not. Thank God I seem to fall into the latter category. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM, MichaelH wrote: > > I don't remember seeing this on the Phil Wood Web site, nor the > required tool. If it's that critical Phil ought to be selling a > simple tool to check it. What about other cartridge bb, like White or > King? Do they have the same sensitivities? > > Michael > Westford, Vt > > On Feb 6, 10:20 am, John McMurry wrote: > > Peter White has said before that premature failure of a Phil bottom > > bracket is due to the bottom bracket shell threads not being aligned. > > > > Here's an excerpt from one of these discussions: > > > > "For a Phil Wood BB to last, the frame's BB threads must be chased > > with a > > tool that indexes one side of the shell with the other so that the > > threads on each side share a common axis. Campagnolo and a few other > > companies make tooling that, when used properly, ensures that the > > threading is correct, and then, and only then, will you get the full > > life of the Phil Wood bearings." > > > > from here: > > > > http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=touring.10709.0545.eml > > > > Makes sense to me. > > > > John McMurry > > Burlington, VT > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
How much can you get in the Lil' Loafer? I've never seen on in person but they look good in the photos & seem to be out of the way as far as your hands go. I use my front bag for food, maps, & a handy stash spot for clothes. As neat as it looks, the Lil Loafer looked a bit small for the price. But what's your real world experience with it? I have a black nylon ugly trunk bag that's roughly the size of the big loafer. Hate the look but it works & that nylon stuff won't die so I have an excuse to replace it. For supported tours it goes on the rear rack & the ancient Hobo as a h'bar bag. Between food, clothes, & odds'n'ends, I've still managed to max that combo out. The Hobo is actually a bit in the way as a h'bar bag, even with 42 cm. Junk expands to fill the available space. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? I'm torn with them. On the one hand, yeah, they are too fussy loking. On the other, they really look like the bees knees of bags. Whether I get the medium or not is still being debated. Right now, though, would rather have an olive tweed big loafer to match my lil' loaf. Going to run the Atlantis with a Nitto top rack, and those two bags together should handle most day rides that don't involve shopping. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Feb 6, 1:56�pm, usuk2007 wrote: > The large Sackville at 23L is the same size as the Carradice Super C > or Camper > but the Sackville costs twice as much. > > The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like the > boxy shape. > Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle strap buckles outside > the bag. Maybe > you an do that and not have too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags > as I > see there's a pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the > saddlebag tight up > against the saddle and you do that by fastening the buckles inside the > bag. > > I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, > that's what real cyclists used ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I prefer the aesthetics of my Nigel Smythe country bag. The brown leather against black canvas and engraved nameplate are all a little dear (a little too Dooney and Bourke) for me. In general, I prefer my canvas in khaki or forest green. I do love my Riv NS country bag. It's probably the proximate size of the new medium Sackville model. Holds quite a bit and always keeps out the rain. Here's a photo: http://flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/379511081/ Riv stuff is really so well made that the first saddlebag I bought is the last one I will probably ever need. Lesli Larson On Feb 6, 4:27 pm, "Doug Peterson" wrote: > How much can you get in the Lil' Loafer? I've never seen on in person but > they look good in the photos & seem to be out of the way as far as your hands > go. I use my front bag for food, maps, & a handy stash spot for clothes. As > neat as it looks, the Lil Loafer looked a bit small for the price. But > what's your real world experience with it? > > I have a black nylon ugly trunk bag that's roughly the size of the big > loafer. Hate the look but it works & that nylon stuff won't die so I have an > excuse to replace it. For supported tours it goes on the rear rack & the > ancient Hobo as a h'bar bag. Between food, clothes, & odds'n'ends, I've > still managed to max that combo out. The Hobo is actually a bit in the way > as a h'bar bag, even with 42 cm. > Junk expands to fill the available space. > dougP > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:24 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? > > I'm torn with them. On the one hand, yeah, they are too fussy > loking. On the other, they really look like the bees knees of bags. > Whether I get the medium or not is still being debated. > > Right now, though, would rather have an olive tweed big loafer to > match my lil' loaf. Going to run the Atlantis with a Nitto top rack, > and those two bags together should handle most day rides that don't > involve shopping. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Feb 6, 1:56 pm, usuk2007 wrote: > > The large Sackville at 23L is the same size as the Carradice Super C > > or Camper > > but the Sackville costs twice as much. > > > The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like the > > boxy shape. > > Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle strap buckles outside > > the bag. Maybe > > you an do that and not have too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags > > as I > > see there's a pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the > > saddlebag tight up > > against the saddle and you do that by fastening the buckles inside the > > bag. > > > I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, > > that's what real cyclists used ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
Someone wrote: > > I just took a look at them. I still like the tubular shape of the > Carradices. I bought the Hoss when it came out and found that it > wouldn't ride on the top of my Nitto expedition rear rack. That > little bar that sticks up on the front of the rack stuck right up > through the bottom of the Hoss. With the camper longflap, I can just > roatate the bag backward and rest it on the rack, with the seatpost > strap going around that little upright bit that caused the problem > with the Hoss. When I tried to rotate the Hoss back, it pointed up > into the air. I finally sold the Hoss on Ebay. > > It looks like the Sackville bags may have the same problem. That problem, if it is indeed a problem, was also true of the Adam and siblings: because they were built more boxy and "upright", when I rotated mine backward to fit onto a Carradice mount with a wire rack, the opening was tilted toward the saddle. A Nelson would have been held perfectly upright. But IMO, the boxier, upright-er design of the Adam was nice for someone who didn't want a rack for a saddlebag. Tucked under the saddle, the opening was still upward, not downward as with a Nelson and ilk. But this baggage user has decided that, if he has to use a rack for a bag, he'd rather use it with panniers -- the entire raison d'etre and purpose and entelechy and causam finalem or teleological determinatum of a saddle bag being: ya don't need a rack, right? So it's back to Flys and panniers of varying sizes according to load. Benefits: carry more at need -- including fretless room for an iBook; smaller bag at need; load affects handling less (and, folks, I've used almost all of them); and -- FWIW -- compared to the 2 1/4 lb unladen weight of the Adam, the Fly plus my converted OYB ManPurse minipannier weigh in at about 1.5 lb. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
I don't like the way the little loafer loads to the front of the bike, away from the rider. You should be able to open it up easily while riding or stopped, not reach around and open from the front... On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: > > How much can you get in the Lil' Loafer? I've never seen on in person but > they look good in the photos & seem to be out of the way as far as your > hands go. I use my front bag for food, maps, & a handy stash spot for > clothes. As neat as it looks, the Lil Loafer looked a bit small for the > price. But what's your real world experience with it? > > I have a black nylon ugly trunk bag that's roughly the size of the big > loafer. Hate the look but it works & that nylon stuff won't die so I have > an excuse to replace it. For supported tours it goes on the rear rack & the > ancient Hobo as a h'bar bag. Between food, clothes, & odds'n'ends, I've > still managed to max that combo out. The Hobo is actually a bit in the way > as a h'bar bag, even with 42 cm. > Junk expands to fill the available space. > dougP > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:24 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? > > > I'm torn with them. On the one hand, yeah, they are too fussy > loking. On the other, they really look like the bees knees of bags. > Whether I get the medium or not is still being debated. > > Right now, though, would rather have an olive tweed big loafer to > match my lil' loaf. Going to run the Atlantis with a Nitto top rack, > and those two bags together should handle most day rides that don't > involve shopping. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > > On Feb 6, 1:56�pm, usuk2007 wrote: > > The large Sackville at 23L is the same size as the Carradice Super C > > or Camper > > but the Sackville costs twice as much. > > > > The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like the > > boxy shape. > > Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle strap buckles outside > > the bag. Maybe > > you an do that and not have too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags > > as I > > see there's a pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the > > saddlebag tight up > > against the saddle and you do that by fastening the buckles inside the > > bag. > > > > I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, > > that's what real cyclists used ;-) > > > > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale: 58cm Rambouillet (blue) -- New
Steve, have you ever tried a recumbent? I'm not convinced it would solve the biking-with-a-bad-back issue, but it's worth a try. I switched a couple years ago because of saddle sores and wrist pain. If you log on to www.bentrideronline.com, you may be able to hook up with someone in your area who will let you ride their 'bent. Bentriders are big on spreading the gospel. I'm in Marin County, CA. On Feb 5, 4:31 pm, Steve wrote: > Sorry for the double post. I'm computer illiterate, I thought I was > editing. Maybe I'll get double your attention. > > On Feb 5, 7:30 pm, Steve wrote: > > > I'm going to sell this lovely new bicycle, because my back won't let > > me ride it. > > > The beautiful blue frame was purchased from a store in Nashville > > awhile back, and I built it up with old (but new (except the seat post > > which is in mint condition)) Campagnolo Nuovo and Super Record parts > > -- memories of my wayword youth. Anyway, I finally got around to > > putting it together this summer, and when I took it for a short spin > > in September...well lets just say I have a spinal problem that's not > > letting me exercise with no end in sight. I don't think cycling will > > ever be an option. > > > My loss will be someone's gain. Before I go and list on that auction > > house, I thought I'd give a shout out to the folks here. Let me know > > if anyone's interested. $2000 is the number in my mind, and that's > > less than I have into it. I know the frames run for that now (OMG!). > > Photos on request. Thanks Steve. steve91...@mac.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Lesli wrote: > > I prefer the aesthetics of my Nigel Smythe country bag. The brown > leather against black canvas and engraved nameplate are all a little > dear (a little too Dooney and Bourke) for me. In general, I prefer my > canvas in khaki or forest green. > > I do love my Riv NS country bag. It's probably the proximate size of > the new > medium Sackville model. Holds quite a bit and always keeps out the > rain. > > Here's a photo: > > http://flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/379511081/ > > Riv stuff is really so well made that the first saddlebag I bought is > the last one I will probably ever need. > How do y'all keep ya'll's bags so *clean*? Mine all look used after a month! (Well, my NS canvas country bag, on the gofast, still looks new after a few months, but that's because the gofast doesn't get as much action as the errand bikes.) FWIW, the Country Bag is, to my mind, the ideal day ride bag: too small for commuting, too big for just tools and ride kit, but just right for tools, the bulky gloves, neck gaiter and pullover that you take off after 10 miles or so, plus lunch, book and camera. Lesli: what is yours made from? I thought that the options were canvas (approved) and tweed (not approved). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: List-Adminy Thing or Two
Jim -- thanks for your work in maintaining the Riv lists. I enjoy the give and take, which is different enough from that of the Boblist to be interesting. Warning: photos of my fleet to come. I am waiting for the return of my newly purchased ($25) and lent out Nishiki mixte, which, when returned and cleaned and overhauled, will become (God willing) my local errand bike, with m-bars, rack and panniers, and, of course, 11 of the excessive 12 ratios removed, along with the useless freewheel. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Was Sackville bags now Lil Loafer volume
Mine has: Shop rag, click-stand, tire bars, tube in latex glove, patch kit, tool kit, ziploc with toilet tissue, sunblock &chapstick, band aids, rain bonnet for my helmet (Nashbar: also fits the lil loafer perfectly, and cheaper than a fitted cover) rain jaccket. Room for some food, etc. rings on top allow more to be laced on if need be. It rests on a Nitto small front rack. From: Doug Peterson T How much can you get in the Lil' Loafer? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
My NS bag is a nice canvas twill. It was one of the early prototypes. Color is more forest green than khaki tan. It has a wonderful tight weave which really keeps out the rain. LL On Feb 6, 4:55 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Lesli wrote: > > > I prefer the aesthetics of my Nigel Smythe country bag. The brown > > leather against black canvas and engraved nameplate are all a little > > dear (a little too Dooney and Bourke) for me. In general, I prefer my > > canvas in khaki or forest green. > > > I do love my Riv NS country bag. It's probably the proximate size of > > the new > > medium Sackville model. Holds quite a bit and always keeps out the > > rain. > > > Here's a photo: > > >http://flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/379511081/ > > > Riv stuff is really so well made that the first saddlebag I bought is > > the last one I will probably ever need. > > How do y'all keep ya'll's bags so *clean*? Mine all look used after a month! > (Well, my NS canvas country bag, on the gofast, still looks new after a few > months, but that's because the gofast doesn't get as much action as the > errand bikes.) > > FWIW, the Country Bag is, to my mind, the ideal day ride bag: too small for > commuting, too big for just tools and ride kit, but just right for tools, > the bulky gloves, neck gaiter and pullover that you take off after 10 miles > or so, plus lunch, book and camera. > > Lesli: what is yours made from? I thought that the options were canvas > (approved) and tweed (not approved). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
Paul C wrote: >>For now, it looks like I'm wedded to the Carradice Camper Longflap. It's become an old and comfortable companion. I can understand Grant wanting to have his own line of bags, but I don't understand why they ever dropped Carradice. They seem like great bags.<< My bike shop carries Carradice bags, and I can tell you why any retailer MIGHT decide to stop. Carradice bags, enjoying a rennaissance as they have, are still made one at a time, by a handful of people in a small facility in Great Britain. As their popularity grew (thanks in large part to Grant and the nice folks at RBW back in the late 90's) the supply-line became clogged with backorders. At this writing, Citybikes Workers' Co-op (my shop) remains the only "stockist" on the west coast of the US. As a result, we get lots of phone calls from all over the country for Carradice bags. We place two very large orders with Carradice each year, mostly consisting of transverse saddlebags, Bike Bureau panniers and rain capes. Sometimes we get everything we've asked for. Sometimes we don't; it just depends on what Carradice can crank out with a handful of people making these things on half a dozen sewing machines. Their operation is small, even though their appeal is great. Some retailers, like us, continue to think that the delays and shortages are worth the trouble of being able to stock the bags. Other retailers may decide that it's too much of a hassle. If that's what Rivendell decided, I can't say I blame them -- though Carradice still make one nice saddlebag. I look forward to seeing one of the Sackville bags in person to contrast and compare. If anyone here gets one, let us know how you like it. And take pix! Please. Beth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
+1 on buying directly form the UK. Lots of stock at St John's Street and with the exchange rate at $1.40 to the pound the bags are good value. You'll get a great bag and save $80. Here's what I pack in a 18L Nelson Longflap and a 9 L Junior (used as a bar bag) for weeks of credit card touring http://www.flickr.com/photos/8342...@n02/3259533098/in/photostream/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: secrets for mounting fenders and the nitto big rack
I just mounted a set of fenders and ran into the same problem. Yes, I bent the stay and all is well. It definetly required the off set of the loop that holds the screw. --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Seth Vidal wrote: > From: Seth Vidal > Subject: [RBW] secrets for mounting fenders and the nitto big rack > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 3:37 PM > Hi, > I've got some wood fenders with the same kind of stays > as come on the > honjos and other metal fenders. I'm trying to mount the > rear one but I > can't get the stays around the lower tab on the nitto > rack. I've been > looking on flickr pictures to see how other people have > worked around > this but I can't tell if they're just bending the > stay or what. > Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions/experience on this, > I'd love to > hear if others have some words of guidance. > > thanks, > -sv > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Want to swap: Lil Loafer (green tweed) for Lil Loafer (Baggins Canvas)
Anyone want to trade a Baggins canvas one for my Smythe green tweed one? It is in essentially new condition. Gino --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: List-Adminy Thing or Two
> This past week, I've been getting larger-than-normal slugs of enterprising > internet marketing attempts. I'm pretty sure that in the last batch or two, > a couple of posts by real members got thrown out with the bathwater. It is really a shame you have to spend your time fending off pesky marketers trying to force themselves where they are not wanted. The only way we can ever get rid of these people is all of us vow never to buy one thing from people and companies that use such tactics. > And, I do want to thank people for continuing to keep things civil and > respectful - as many of the original group-folks know, I worry about this > time of year (Feb/March). Historically on other lists, it's when > cabin-fever can get the best of people, and innocuous threads ratchet up to > really rough levels. Amen to that. Today Chris had to delete a VO-blog site topic apparently because some of the commentators were getting out of hand. The beauty of the bike stems mainly from that fact that in its simplicity it can become whatever the owner wants it to be. Instead of nagging at people who like things different from you, we all need to just appreciate our own and everyone else's. On Feb 6, 10:21 am, CycloFiend wrote: > Hey all - > > This past week, I've been getting larger-than-normal slugs of enterprising > internet marketing attempts. I'm pretty sure that in the last batch or two, > a couple of posts by real members got thrown out with the bathwater. > > If something you posted didn't show up, you might resubmit it. As of right > now (8 am Friday), there are no "held" posts in the queue. > > Please note that all initial posts by new members are moderated. Even > though you may have been a group member for a while, unless you've posted, > you're still a "new member"... > > And, another thing which has been on my mind - > Many of the new member posts are responses to "For Sale" postings. Although > I try to pass along all posts quickly, there are times when 12 or 24 hours > may go by before I can get to it. I feel a bit badly that contact gets > delayed, especially on those things which are of high interest, as you may > miss out on that chance to nab that item you've been looking for. > > However, I've noted before that unless it's a general question about the > item that is of interest to the group, the best thing to do is contact the > seller directly, rather than through the list. > > Because the RBW Group is default as the "Send/Reply" address, you need to > change it in order to reply directly to the seller. > > And, I do want to thank people for continuing to keep things civil and > respectful - as many of the original group-folks know, I worry about this > time of year (Feb/March). Historically on other lists, it's when > cabin-fever can get the best of people, and innocuous threads ratchet up to > really rough levels. > > Thanks! > > - Jim "...yeah, I _really_ gotta do an SOTL Update..." > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis
Guys: Someone posted that model paint (maybe Testors?) has a match for the Atlantis color. Kevin's prep sounds good & follow up with a little model airplane paint should get it at least to "she'll do" (if you know any Aussies!). Heck, I wouldn't get excited about the finish in that area; it's just going to get beat up again. I've got similar damage & I've never been near 3 degrees F in my life, let alone on a bike! Gotta fix that some day. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Turinsky Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:21 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: first time building up an atlantis Hi David, You know...it really wasn't too difficult to freshen up the chain-suck mess. I'll post a Flickr photo showing how it turned out. You can sort of see the primer in this photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28720...@n02/3054481627/ All I did was wet-sand the area w/ emory paper of progressively finer grits until it was moderately smooth, then masked the area off and sprayed it w/ multiple, thin coats of rattle-can primer. Go for it. I was really hesitant at first. But now that I've done it...no problem! It's an easy fix. I probably should've painted over it, but I wanted to go for a ride. Contact me if you have any questions. I can send you other photos directly, too. Kevin Spread the word: http://alaskarandonneurs.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Was Sackville bags now Lil Loafer volume
Bruce: Thanks for that info. I've got the Nitto small rack, it's just so handy. I'd be a bit lighter on rain gear (less than 20" per year here) & tend to carry a lot of food. It sounds a good option. And they just look so good! dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:28 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Was Sackville bags now Lil Loafer volume Mine has: Shop rag, click-stand, tire bars, tube in latex glove, patch kit, tool kit, ziploc with toilet tissue, sunblock &chapstick, band aids, rain bonnet for my helmet (Nashbar: also fits the lil loafer perfectly, and cheaper than a fitted cover) rain jaccket. Room for some food, etc. rings on top allow more to be laced on if need be. It rests on a Nitto small front rack. _ From: Doug Peterson T How much can you get in the Lil' Loafer? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses?
The rigging Lisa suggests works on other bags too. I've done that with my Hobo because I figured it was less likely to be casually ripped off the bike if the attachments were out of sight. On my bag, moving the buckles doesn't change the relationship of the bag to the seat but I could easily punch another hole in the strap & tighten it up. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa -S.H. Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:25 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? Why don't you just take the two saddle straps out and re-thread them back with the buckles inside the bag, with only a tight loop coming out of the slot and fastening to the saddle ring? It's easy. Lisa > On Feb 6, 1:56�pm, usuk2007 wrote: > > The bags look well made, but they also look fussy and I don't like > > the boxy shape. Rivendell also persists in fastening the saddle > > strap buckles outside the bag. Maybe you an do that and not have > > too much saddle sway on the Sackville bags as I see there's a > > pocket for the rack upright. Anyway i like to have the saddlebag > > tight up against the saddle and you do that by fastening the > > buckles inside the bag. > > I may be an uber retro grouch here, but I'll stick with Carradice, > > that's what real cyclists used ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, Now cleaning waxed canvas
Patrick raises an interesting question: Is there a proper way to clean waxed canvas? I've never thrown mine into the washer but just hosing it off doesn't seem to do much except wash of the surface grit. I'm afraid anything aggressive will destroy whatever's left of the waxing. It still feels kinda-sorta waxy but it looks pretty bad. It's nice & soft & pliable with no holes or serious wear marks, just grimy as all get out. Any ideas on cleaning? dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:56 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville bags: how necessary, and for what uses? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Lesli wrote: I prefer the aesthetics of my Nigel Smythe country bag. The brown leather against black canvas and engraved nameplate are all a little dear (a little too Dooney and Bourke) for me. In general, I prefer my canvas in khaki or forest green. I do love my Riv NS country bag. It's probably the proximate size of the new medium Sackville model. Holds quite a bit and always keeps out the rain. Here's a photo: http://flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/379511081/ Riv stuff is really so well made that the first saddlebag I bought is the last one I will probably ever need. How do y'all keep ya'll's bags so *clean*? Mine all look used after a month! (Well, my NS canvas country bag, on the gofast, still looks new after a few months, but that's because the gofast doesn't get as much action as the errand bikes.) FWIW, the Country Bag is, to my mind, the ideal day ride bag: too small for commuting, too big for just tools and ride kit, but just right for tools, the bulky gloves, neck gaiter and pullover that you take off after 10 miles or so, plus lunch, book and camera. Lesli: what is yours made from? I thought that the options were canvas (approved) and tweed (not approved). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Pumps for Riv frames
I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
I do. I hang a full length Topeak Master Blaster under the top tube using aforementioned pump peg.. I've used it, as well, and it worked flawlessly. Ray --- On Fri, 2/6/09, colin p. cummings wrote: > From: colin p. cummings > Subject: [RBW] Pumps for Riv frames > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:20 PM > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a > nice looking > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if > you have > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > Cheers, > > Colin Cummings > Amarillo, TX > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
The Master Blaster is a great frame pump. But after using the Topeak Morph pumps, traditional frame pumps no longer have much appeal. On Feb 6, 10:36 pm, Ray Shine wrote: > I do. I hang a full length Topeak Master Blaster under the top tube using > aforementioned pump peg.. I've used it, as well, and it worked flawlessly. > > Ray > > --- On Fri, 2/6/09, colin p. cummings wrote: > > > From: colin p. cummings > > Subject: [RBW] Pumps for Riv frames > > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" > > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:20 PM > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a > > nice looking > > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if > > you have > > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > > Cheers, > > > Colin Cummings > > Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
If I were to carry a frame pump, I'd carry my old white Silca (matched my Paramount). Still works great and looks classic. For better or worse, I now carry a small pump that fits in my banana bag. Jim M WC, CA On Feb 6, 8:20 pm, "colin p. cummings" wrote: > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > Cheers, > > Colin Cummings > Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
Currently using a morph, and the only qualms I have with it are the location: it takes up a reasonably valuable water bottle spot on my Bleriot. Plus the pump peg is all wasted... On Feb 6, 10:38 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > The Master Blaster is a great frame pump. But after using the Topeak > Morph pumps, traditional frame pumps no longer have much appeal. > > On Feb 6, 10:36 pm, Ray Shine wrote: > > > I do. I hang a full length Topeak Master Blaster under the top tube using > > aforementioned pump peg.. I've used it, as well, and it worked flawlessly. > > > Ray > > > --- On Fri, 2/6/09, colin p. cummings wrote: > > > > From: colin p. cummings > > > Subject: [RBW] Pumps for Riv frames > > > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" > > > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:20 PM > > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a > > > nice looking > > > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if > > > you have > > > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Colin Cummings > > > Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM, colin p. cummings wrote: > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. I use the Topeak in the standard top tube location for my Riv, though i admit that i'd sometimes prefer a decent mini pump in the saddlebag instead. I do use a little elasticky velcro strap on the pump, 'cause i hate hearing it rattle. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] WTB: Nitto Dirt Drop Stem with 26.0 clamp
Hello all. I'm trying to find the long (quill length - not stem) version of the dirt drop stem with a 26.0 clamp. Ben's Cycle only has the short version, as does Riv. Any ideas (or anybody got one laying around)? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
I have a little tiny mini Silca pump in my saddlebag. Schwalbe Marathons (35 mm) don't have many (knock on wood!) flats so I don't use it regularly. Actually, most use is by people who've run out of CO2 cartrideges. Pump peg has gotten used to being ignored. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of colin p. cummings Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:21 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Pumps for Riv frames I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
Bah. I use a road morph G. It isn't pretty at all. But it is very effective at pumping up tires. On 2/6/09, colin p. cummings wrote: > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > Cheers, > > Colin Cummings > Amarillo, TX > > > -- Sent from my mobile device having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
I have my morph mounted directly to the left of the water bottle on the downtube. It doesn't conflict with pedaling in that location and I can use all my water bottles. On 2/6/09, colin p. cummings wrote: > > Currently using a morph, and the only qualms I have with it are the > location: it takes up a reasonably valuable water bottle spot on my > Bleriot. Plus the pump peg is all wasted... > > On Feb 6, 10:38 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > wrote: >> The Master Blaster is a great frame pump. But after using the Topeak >> Morph pumps, traditional frame pumps no longer have much appeal. >> >> On Feb 6, 10:36 pm, Ray Shine wrote: >> >> > I do. I hang a full length Topeak Master Blaster under the top tube >> > using aforementioned pump peg.. I've used it, as well, and it worked >> > flawlessly. >> >> > Ray >> >> > --- On Fri, 2/6/09, colin p. cummings wrote: >> >> > > From: colin p. cummings >> > > Subject: [RBW] Pumps for Riv frames >> > > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" >> > > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:20 PM >> > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a >> > > nice looking >> > > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if >> > > you have >> > > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. >> >> > > Cheers, >> >> > > Colin Cummings >> > > Amarillo, TX > > > -- Sent from my mobile device having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
Blackburn frame fit pump on the Quickbeam and the Road Std. I dumped my last mini-pump long ago ... ... except for one bike on which I carry the mini pump that Velo Orange sells. It's the only small pump I have found that actually works. --Eric Norris Sent from my iPhone 3G On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:20 PM, "colin p. cummings" wrote: > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > Cheers, > > Colin Cummings > Amarillo, TX > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
Park Tool frame pump for me. On Feb 6, 9:29 pm, Jim Bronson wrote: > Bah. I use a road morph G. It isn't pretty at all. But it is very > effective at pumping up tires. > > On 2/6/09, colin p. cummings wrote: > > > > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > > Cheers, > > > Colin Cummings > > Amarillo, TX > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > having a blood clot is a sticky situation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Floor pump poll
This is only Riv related because Rivs have tires, but... I've had the same Silca track pump with a Presta head on it since the 70's, and it's been a dependable marvel. However, we have a fleet of bikes now and half of them have Schraeder valves. I have a compressor, but it's a bother running it for a single top off for one bike; I'd rather just grab a floor pump for quick jobs. Is there a hands down favorite floor pump out there? They all do the same thing, of course, but a lot of them are junk. I want an accurate gauge and a dual head. Suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
On Feb 6, 2009, at 10:20 PM, colin p. cummings wrote: > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. Silca Impero with Campy head. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
Zefal HPx, but mounted on the left chainstay. I've never liked top tube mounted pumps. Bill On Feb 6, 8:20 pm, "colin p. cummings" wrote: > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > Cheers, > > Colin Cummings > Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
Blackburn full frame under top tube, or behind seat tube, depending on if I have fenders on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3152600068/in/set-72157604046492434/ On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bill M. wrote: > > Zefal HPx, but mounted on the left chainstay. I've never liked top > tube mounted pumps. > > Bill > > On Feb 6, 8:20 pm, "colin p. cummings" > wrote: > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Colin Cummings > > Amarillo, TX > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Floor pump poll
One of the cheap Topeak Joe Blow variants. Don't spend more than $40. On Feb 6, 11:46 pm, Dave in Redding wrote: > This is only Riv related because Rivs have tires, but... > > I've had the same Silca track pump with a Presta head on it since the > 70's, and it's been a dependable marvel. However, we have a fleet of > bikes now and half of them have Schraeder valves. I have a > compressor, but it's a bother running it for a single top off for one > bike; I'd rather just grab a floor pump for quick jobs. Is there a > hands down favorite floor pump out there? They all do the same thing, > of course, but a lot of them are junk. I want an accurate gauge and a > dual head. Suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames
Zefal HPx under the top tube. A perfect fit...I forget it's there until I need it. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2419/2183293239_c825b5e600.jpg?v=0 On Feb 6, 10:03 pm, David Estes wrote: > Blackburn full frame under top tube, or behind seat tube, depending on if I > have fenders > on.http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3152600068/in/set-721576040... > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bill M. wrote: > > > Zefal HPx, but mounted on the left chainstay. I've never liked top > > tube mounted pumps. > > > Bill > > > On Feb 6, 8:20 pm, "colin p. cummings" > > wrote: > > > I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking > > > air-infiltration device. Curious what you guys/gals use if you have > > > those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Colin Cummings > > > Amarillo, TX > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Dirt Drop Stem with 26.0 clamp
Is this what you are looking for? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=170299869097 I've currently got this liste on the 'bay. Not sure if it's Nitto or not but if any Riv group members buy it I'll ship for freelet me know. On Feb 6, 9:14 pm, chris love wrote: > Hello all. I'm trying to find the long (quill length - not stem) > version of the dirt drop stem with a 26.0 clamp. Ben's Cycle only has > the short version, as does Riv. Any ideas (or anybody got one laying > around)? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
