RE: LVM & quota problem

2002-11-15 Thread Marko Asplund
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, LENHOF Jean-Yves wrote:

> ...
> After mounting file system with quota enabled
> 
> touch /home/quota.user
> touch /home/quota.group
> should help you

after creating the quota files (aquota.{user|group}) the quotacheck
command didn't give the 'Cannot get quotafile name' message as before but
when booting the system i still got the following error messages even
though the quota files exist:

Enabling local filesystem quotas:  quotaon: Cannot find quota file on /home 
[/dev/Volume00/LogVol03] to turn quotas on/off.
quotaon: Cannot find quota file on /home [/dev/Volume00/LogVol03] to turn quotas 
on/off.
quotaon: Cannot find quota file on /var [/dev/Volume00/LogVol01] to turn quotas on/off.
quotaon: Cannot find quota file on /var [/dev/Volume00/LogVol01] to turn quotas on/off.

this got fixed with running '/sbin/quotacheck -ug ' on both
filesystems.

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bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Marc Murphy
Has anyone else encountered this problem with a fresh install?

#!/usr/bin/perl
print 'hello';

Does not print, but if I redirect the output to a file using, it does. 
It also will print if I use the \n character.  When I use csh the 
newline character is not needed.  Can anyone tell me what is going on?



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Re: custom built kernel fails to mount root fs

2002-11-15 Thread Marko Asplund
On 15 Nov 2002, Iain Buchanan wrote:

> On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:49, Marko Asplund wrote:
>
> heres the first problem I see.  If you copy a config file fron configs/
> and then run xconfig, it will overwrite it :)  You either need to
> 1. copy the config file (and don't run any make config command) but
> continue with dep
> 2. don't copy the config file, but run 'make xconfig' and choose 'load
> configuration from file' as your first operation, then choose a file
> from configs/
> 3. copy a config from somewhere else (eg /boot/config) or an older
> version of your own config file and then run 'make oldconfig'
> 
> This may have caused some problems if you thought some options should
> have been selected, but were overwritten...

i just rebuilt the kernel using the following procedure:

make mrproper
make xconfig # loaded configuration from file
make dep
make bzImage
make install
make modules
make modules_install

but the result is still the same and the kernel is unable to mount the
root filesystem.

> ...
> once you've tried the make again, see if you still get this problem. 
> Short of posting your whole .config file, did you compile in scsi or
> compile the module?  (I think you said this in a previous post but I
> forgot :)

the root filesystem is on a Mylex AcceleRAID RAID array and the driver is
enabled in kernel config (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960=y). LVM, ext2 and ext3 are
also enabled. all of these are statically built into the kernel.

> ...
> On a tangent, try entering 'e' when grub loads (I think its e for edit),
> and then manually edit the commands.  Delete a few characters of, say, 
> 'kernel /vmlinuz-blah' until you're back to just 'kernel /vmlinuz' and
> then push tab a couple of times.  If it doesn't autocomplete or at least
> give you some options of autocompletion, then something more serious may
> be wrong...

i'm unable to do this because Grub can't do filename completion on the
RAID array disks. when i give the command 'root (hd0,1)' Grub complains:  
Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82.

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(no subject)

2002-11-15 Thread Mark Cooke
Hi,

I've created a cdrom and want it to run a script when I put the cdrom in
the drive (basically I have created a small bash script, than checks for
what web browsers are installed, ie mozilla, nutscrape, lynx etc..) and
then open the index.html page and displays the contents of the cdrom.

I'll also be using this to bring up a game installer as well (I've created
one from the Loki setup program)

I have copied the autorun from the RedHat docs cd, and altered it, but
still cannot get it to run.
doing some searching on google hasn't bought up much (but this could be
down to me using the wrong search criteria)

Can anyone possible either direct me towards any links or information or
give my any tips on how to do this.

Cheers in advance

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Advise on creating autorun scripts (was: no subject)

2002-11-15 Thread Mark Cooke
Hi,

Sorry, I forgot to create a subject on the previous email :(

I've created a cdrom and want it to run a script when I put the cdrom in
the drive (basically I have created a small bash script, than checks for
what web browsers are installed, ie mozilla, nutscrape, lynx etc..) and
then open the index.html page and displays the contents of the cdrom.

I'll also be using this to bring up a game installer as well (I've created
one from the Loki setup program)

I have copied the autorun from the RedHat docs cd, and altered it, but
still cannot get it to run.
doing some searching on google hasn't bought up much (but this could be
down to me using the wrong search criteria)

Can anyone possible either direct me towards any links or information or
give my any tips on how to do this.

Cheers in advance

Mark


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RE: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Ronald Hermans
Yes, I had the same problem. The clou is that the prompt overrides your
output.
To solution is simple: Use \n


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Subject: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work


Has anyone else encountered this problem with a fresh install?

#!/usr/bin/perl
print 'hello';

Does not print, but if I redirect the output to a file using, it does. 
 It also will print if I use the \n character.  When I use csh the 
newline character is not needed.  Can anyone tell me what is going on?



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Sony Vaio, ACPI, suspend and me...

2002-11-15 Thread Bernd Kunze
Hi,

I've just purchased a Sony Vaio GRX 416 here and it does support ACPI,
however I have failed to suspend it to ram so far. Anyone out there who
can add some advise here please? Using apm -s does not allow it to
return back to life (have to unplug power plus remove battery). Kernel
has been recompiled with acpi support, modules load fine except for the
battery module.

BTW: Does the latest RH kernel has the latest ACPI patches built in?

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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Marc Murphy wrote:

> Has anyone else encountered this problem with a fresh install?
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> print 'hello';
> 
> Does not print, but if I redirect the output to a file using, it does. 
>  It also will print if I use the \n character.  When I use csh the 
> newline character is not needed.  Can anyone tell me what is going on?
> 
It is not a Perl problem:
summer@orange summer]$ xxd x
000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
[summer@orange summer]$ cat x
[summer@orange summer]$



I'm beginning to think Psyche is a good one to miss.


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linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread anthony baldwin
Ha!
I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
(Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was this:

Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.

I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for linux software 
searches.  Who are they trying to kid?

Tony


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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Miloslav Trmac
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 03:08:30AM -0500, Marc Murphy wrote:
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> print 'hello';
> 
> Does not print, but if I redirect the output to a file using, it does. 
It does print, but the prompt overwrites it. Already in bugzilla.
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Sony Vaio, ACPI, suspend and me...

2002-11-15 Thread Bernd Kunze
Hi,

I've just purchased a Sony Vaio GRX 416 here and it does support ACPI,
however I have failed to suspend it to ram so far. Anyone out there who
can add some advise here please? Using apm -s does not allow it to
return back to life (have to unplug power plus remove battery). Kernel
has been recompiled with acpi support, modules load fine except for the
battery module.

BTW: Does the latest RH kernel has the latest ACPI patches built in?

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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Marco Fioretti
It is the Unicode/UTF8 thing again. I have seen almost the same thing
in my random signature script, and, as you can see in this message,
I've temporarily removed it for lack of time. For the record, the
one-liner (perfectly working in RH 7.3) was:

set signature="perl -an0777F'\n\s*\n' -e 'print \$F[rand(@F)]'
~/pers_doc/massime|"

and only printed one word of the signature. This other version does
just nothing:

set signature = "perl -e '$/ = \"\n\n\";@A=<>;print
"\n$A[int(rand($#A))]"' ~/pers_doc/massime|"


This Perl/RH8.0 incompatibility has already surfaced. This thread:

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=44f0dd99eab05a5c

gives details and some solution. I confess that I didn't check myself,
but from what they say there, it looks like it's not covered by the
release notes either.

IMPORTANT REQUEST TO RED HAT: Of course, I'll gratefully accept any
suggestion about how to fix my script, but the real solution would be
a page on the web site called "The Perl/RH 8.0 Howto" or something
like that. Something like the Postfix/Red Hat documentation, which
deals both with general and packaging specific issues.

Ciao,
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Re: (no subject)

2002-11-15 Thread John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Mark Cooke wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've created a cdrom and want it to run a script when I put the cdrom in
> the drive (basically I have created a small bash script, than checks for
> what web browsers are installed, ie mozilla, nutscrape, lynx etc..) and
> then open the index.html page and displays the contents of the cdrom.
> 
> I'll also be using this to bring up a game installer as well (I've created
> one from the Loki setup program)
> 
> I have copied the autorun from the RedHat docs cd, and altered it, but
> still cannot get it to run.

Quite possibly you have the noexec option in /etc/fstab

Autorun CDs are a security hazard. I discourage you from doing it.




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RE: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Ronald Hermans wrote:

> Yes, I had the same problem. The clou is that the prompt overrides your
> output.
> To solution is simple: Use \n
 
I thought that too. However, it behaves differentlyon RHL 7.3.





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CD-ROM dma activation

2002-11-15 Thread Gerhardus Scheltema
Hello

I'm having problem activating the dma on my DVD/CDROM

doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda (HardDrive) works fine but
doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc (DVD/CDROM) gives me

/dev/hdc:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
 using_dma=  0 (off)

Can anybody please help?

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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Waterson
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:22:06 -0800 (PST)
anthony baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ha!
> I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was this:
> 
> Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.
> 
> I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for linux software 
>searches.  Who are they trying to kid?

What was your search string?

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Re: OpenOffice

2002-11-15 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Star office also contains a database which is not in openoffice

Dennis

On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 20:51, Keith Winston wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 20:04, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:
> > I purchased StarOffice 6.0 just prior to recently switching from SuSE 8
> > to RH8. 
> > 
> > It was my understanding that Sun's investment in this commercial version
> > of OO produced something better in a number of ways.
> > 
> > Is there any reason why I should prefer OO over SO6, apart from cost?
> > 
> > Just wondering before I delete OO and load SO6.
> 
> StarOffice 6 includes some additional fonts, templates (wizards) for
> various types of documents that are not in OO, and has support from
> Sun.  Those are the only differences I've been able to find.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Keith
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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Jay Turner
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:54:06PM +0800, John wrote:
> It is not a Perl problem:
> summer@orange summer]$ xxd x
> 000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
> [summer@orange summer]$ cat x
> [summer@orange summer]$

How very odd . . . works just fine here on all of the machines I just poked
at.

[haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/test.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
print 'hello';
[haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl
hello[haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl > /tmp/foo
[haring (root):~]# xxd /tmp/foo
000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
[haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/foo
hello[haring (root):~]#

[haring (root):~]# rpm -q bash
bash-2.05b-5

- jkt

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Digest replies (was: Re: Psyche-list digest, Vol 1 #474 - 18 msgs)

2002-11-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:12:27 -0800 (PST), anthony baldwin wrote:

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^^
Anthony, this is the subject line you should put into your mail when
replying to digests. Non-digest subscribers don't know what
"Psyche-list digest, Vol 1 #474 - 18 msgs" is about. Please consider
reading about netiquette guidelines at Google, for instance places
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Re: Gigabyte Motherboards

2002-11-15 Thread Charles Johnson
I have had one, and it was not a good experience. Board was DOA, as was its 
replacement. Since then, I have been buying either AsusTek or Intel. YMMV.

RedHat has never caused me grief with either of those two board types.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, November 14, 2002 7:06:16 PM >>>
Is there anyone out there using the Gigabyte GA-8IHXP2 motherboard? If
so, what is your experience...what do you think of this motherboard?
Does anyone have opinions to offer about Gigabyte boards in general? 

Thanks

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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Jason Wong
On Friday 15 November 2002 18:22, anthony baldwin wrote:
> Ha!
> I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was this:
>
> Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.

That's the actual "SEARCH" results or the "sponsored links"? Most likely it's 
a sponsored link. 

> I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for linux
> software searches.  Who are they trying to kid?

Who cares? Most savvy people would ignore the sponsored links anyway (they are 
marked as such).

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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:22:06AM -0800, anthony baldwin wrote:
> Ha!
> I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was this:
> 
> Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.
> 
> I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for linux software 
>searches.  Who are they trying to kid?

There might be a grounds for a complaint to Google about this and there
may be potential for trademark violations.  I seem to recall previous
lawsuits around issues like this.

Complain to Google and see what happens.  You're just preaching to the
choir here.

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RE: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Ronald Hermans
I must admit, only started with Perl after installing RH8.

Ronald

-Original Message-
From: John [mailto:psyche@;computerdatasafe.com.au]
Sent: vrijdag 15 november 2002 13:28
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work


On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Ronald Hermans wrote:

> Yes, I had the same problem. The clou is that the prompt overrides your
> output.
> To solution is simple: Use \n
 
I thought that too. However, it behaves differentlyon RHL 7.3.





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Re: custom built kernel fails to mount root fs [SOLVED]

2002-11-15 Thread Marko Asplund

i finally managed to get the system boot a custom built kernel. the thing
that made the difference was enabling RAM disk + initrd support
(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD) in kernel config. i also had
to create an initrd file for the kernel and define it in grub.conf.  this
was the only change i did to kernel config but after this the kernel
boots. i really don't understand why this is as the initrd image contains
no device driver modules at all.

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Redhat 8 install problem

2002-11-15 Thread Sittampalam Nagu








Hello

 

I have installed red hat v8 on a Compaq Proliant ML350. What
I am finding is the security level is set to high even if I pick no firewall.
If I run the tool to change the security level and it accepts the change but
does not change it

 

 


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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Brian K. Jones
On Friday 15 November 2002 5:54 am, John wrote:
>
> I'm beginning to think Psyche is a good one to miss.

Amen brother.  This will also slow my dept's adoption of the next release.  
Inevitably, I'll also end up having to run another distro somewhere in the 
department just so I'm comfortable enough with another distro to change if we 
feel the need.  I recommended against upgrading our servers to 8.0.  If I 
need to do it again for the next release, it's not gonna fly, we'll have to 
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Re: CD-ROM dma activation

2002-11-15 Thread Pete Peterson


> Subject: CD-ROM dma activation
> From: Gerhardus Scheltema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Psyche List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Hello
> 
> I'm having problem activating the dma on my DVD/CDROM
> 
> doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda (HardDrive) works fine but
> doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc (DVD/CDROM) gives me
> 
> /dev/hdc:
>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
>  using_dma=  0 (off)
> 
> Can anybody please help?
> 
> Gerhardus

The Red Hat 8.0 RELEASE_NOTES explain this.  (see next to last bullet
item).

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Re: mimencode and/or base64

2002-11-15 Thread Joshua Andrews
Keith Morse wrote:


Okay, I'll bit.  Now that metamail has been dropped from psyche, how do I 
command line decode base64 files. I'm taking a look at a klez trap I'm 
using in conjuction with procmail.  "man -k base64" shows:

MIME::Base64 (3pm)  - Encoding and decoding of base64 strings
MIME::Decoder::Base64 (3pm)  - encode/decode a base64 stream
MIME::Decoder::Gzip64 (3pm)  - decode a base64 gzip stream


but no programmer am I.  Just looking for a clue, Google is being 
unusually obtuse for me tonight.




 

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Re: CD-ROM dma activation

2002-11-15 Thread Klaasjan Brand
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 13:03, Gerhardus Scheltema wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I'm having problem activating the dma on my DVD/CDROM
> 
> doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda (HardDrive) works fine but
> doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc (DVD/CDROM) gives me
> 
> /dev/hdc:
>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
>  using_dma=  0 (off)
> 
> Can anybody please help?
> 
> Gerhardus

Try unmounting your dvd (and maybe removing the cdrom module) before
changing dma settings.
It seems the redhat kernel doesn't allow changing dma settings while the
drive is in use... stock linus kernel has no problems with it.

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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Keith Winston
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:47, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:22:06 -0800 (PST)
> anthony baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ha!
> > I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> > (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was this:
> > 
> > Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> > www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.
> > 
> > I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for linux software 
>searches.  Who are they trying to kid?
> 
> What was your search string?

I used these words in a Google search: 

linux software crossword

and got the above link at the FIRST one!  Amazing.

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How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Dr. David M. Colburn
I just went to this site and clicked on WABC (the lightning bolt icon to
play the Internet feed) and a window popped up asking if I wanted to
save or use an application but there wasn't an application option given.

How does one play streaming audio in RH 8, please? (Don't have a manual
set yet.)
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y

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Evolution 1.2

2002-11-15 Thread Dan Clowater
Hey - is anyone else having problems with evolution 1.2 not keeping mail configs.
It is keeping my main email address and info, but it is not retaining my yahoo login 
whenever I restart evolution?!?

Has anyone found this problem - if so how to fix it?!
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Re: custom built kernel fails to mount root fs

2002-11-15 Thread Ron Olsen

   Marko> i just rebuilt the kernel using the following procedure:

   Marko> make mrproper
   Marko> make xconfig # loaded configuration from file
   Marko> make dep
   Marko> make bzImage
   Marko> make install
   Marko> make modules
   Marko> make modules_install

   Marko> but the result is still the same and the kernel is unable to
   Marko> mount the root filesystem.

The command sequence recommended in the Red Hat 8.0 Customization Guide
(Appenix A - Building a Custom Kernel) is:

make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
make install

You didn't do the "make clean" step, and you did the "make install" before
the "make modules" and "make modules_install".

"make install" creates an initrd image and updates the grub.conf file, and
it needs the results of "make modules_install" to do this properly.

This may not matter since you've built most things statically into your
kernel, but it's worth a try.

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Re: Gigabyte Motherboards

2002-11-15 Thread John Horne
> Is there anyone out there using the Gigabyte GA-8IHXP2 motherboard? If
> so, what is your experience...what do you think of this motherboard?
> Does anyone have opinions to offer about Gigabyte boards in general? 
> 
I've got a gigabyte G7ZX (I think), had it for about 18 months. Works fine.
I've run redhat 7.2, 7.3 and now 8.0 on it with no problems. Recently
upgraded my duron 700MHz to a 1.3GHz on it, again no problems but I had to
upgrade the bios (not really a problem, just confused me why it didn't
work!). Runs hotter, but I guess that's expected with a cpu running twice as
fast :-) (Yeah, yeah more cooling may well help, but it's not failed me yet).

I used to follow the gigabyte newgroup, used to see many messages from those
with boards with problems, and those who said that had no problems with them
at all :-)

John.


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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Brent Fox
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:47, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:22:06 -0800 (PST)
> anthony baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ha!
> > I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> > (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was this:
> > 
> > Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> > www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.
> > 
> > I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for linux software 
>searches.  Who are they trying to kid?
> 
> What was your search string?

I think his search string was "Linux software for crossword puzzle
creation"  ;)

Google does the same thing for me.  Actually just searching for "linux
software" brings it up.


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mozilla-redhat.com

2002-11-15 Thread Marek
Hi

If i go to the redhat.com site with mozilla and then browse somewhere
else and return to redhat.com the site does not appear. Just says
document loaded and a blank page, i have to clear the cache each time to
view the page.

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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Manfred Hollstein
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, 14:47:49 +0100, Jay Turner wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:54:06PM +0800, John wrote:
> > It is not a Perl problem:
> > summer@orange summer]$ xxd x
> > 000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
> > [summer@orange summer]$ cat x
> > [summer@orange summer]$
> 
> How very odd . . . works just fine here on all of the machines I just poked
> at.
> 
> [haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/test.pl
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> print 'hello';
> [haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl
> hello[haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl > /tmp/foo
> [haring (root):~]# xxd /tmp/foo
> 000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
> [haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/foo
> hello[haring (root):~]#
> 
> [haring (root):~]# rpm -q bash
> bash-2.05b-5

bash is emitting a '\r' before printing the prompt (PS1); if you set
PS1 to the empty string, you'll see the string 'hello' _after_ the
cursor...

> 
> - jkt
> 

Cheers.

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netscape 7 AIM

2002-11-15 Thread Josh White
Does anyone know how to get the integrated AIM to upload files?  It uploads
on 30k and then stops.  Thanks


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Subject: Re: CD-ROM dma activation




> Subject: CD-ROM dma activation
> From: Gerhardus Scheltema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Psyche List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello
>
> I'm having problem activating the dma on my DVD/CDROM
>
> doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda (HardDrive) works fine but
> doing : hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc (DVD/CDROM) gives me
>
> /dev/hdc:
>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
>  using_dma=  0 (off)
>
> Can anybody please help?
>
> Gerhardus

The Red Hat 8.0 RELEASE_NOTES explain this.  (see next to last bullet
item).

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missing link Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0

2002-11-15 Thread Elton Woo

- Original Message -
From: Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Nov 2002 09:08:53 -0800 
To: Psyche Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0


> Whoops, thanks for catching that. Glad you like it.
> 
> On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:17, Robert L. Cochran wrote:
> > Love the tutorial. One small correction. applications.vfolder-info lives

> > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:52, Michael Knepher wrote:
> > > I've whipped up a brief tutorial on hand-editing the Gnome menus in
> > > RH8.0. It's at http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/rh8menu.html. Comments or

  Mozilla reports "missing link"??  ... not a typo on my part, as I sinmply
clicked on the link in your original message..

cheers

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Re: CDROM / fstab question

2002-11-15 Thread Daniel WELLS
Thanks all for the suggestions.  As I looked for what was resetting things I went and 
removed "kudzu"  from the fstab entries.  I also made sure the "modules.conf" file had 
the correct entries.  I turned kudzu to "SAFE=yes".  My sound card now works as well 
as the CD-ROM drive.  I am however getting an additional disk (cdrom1) that references 
the same device but can only be mounted by root.  (this concerns me less than not 
having it work).  Following one suggestion I have stopped kudzu from starting (in 
ntsysv).  This did not stop the additional CDROM drive from showing up and the fstab 
from updating.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/02 03:28PM >>>
After I installed RH 8 I was very impressed.  Unfortunately, things have not stayed 
rosy.  Sound was the first thing to stop working, now whenever I reboot the computer I 
have to jump through all sorts of hoops to be able to mount a CD.  

With not modification the message I get is something like:

"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many mounted 
filesystems (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 
or sda or so is needed?)"

This usually involves editing the" fstab" file (which get overwritten on reboot) from:

/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro   0   0

to

/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,user,kudzu,ro0   0

I then have to deal with the link to the device.  On checking I found that 
"/dev/cdrom" was pointing to "/dev/hdc". This is reset each time I reboot so I have to 
delete the old link and created a new link "dev/cdrom" pointing to "/dev/scd0".

I can then mount the CD ROM.  What am I missing?  Are there some configuration 
settings that need to be changed?

Any help in pointing me in the right direction will be deeply appreciated.

Thanks!



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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:34:39PM +0800, Jason Wong wrote:
> 
> Who cares? Most savvy people would ignore the sponsored links anyway
> (they are marked as such).

Privoxy filter to make all sponsored links "disappear":

 s@@@

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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2002-11-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:16:37 -
Sittampalam Nagu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

# 
# I have installed red hat v8 on a Compaq Proliant ML350. What I am
# finding is the security level is set to high even if I pick no
# firewall. If I run the tool to change the security level and it
# accepts the change but does not change it

The tool does not reflect current settings.  You are actually changing
the level, but the tool will not reflect it.  BY design I do believe.

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Re: CANADIAN Red Hat Road Tour?

2002-11-15 Thread Elton Woo

- Original Message -
From: "Robert L. Cochran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Nov 2002 18:21:15 -0500 
To: Red "Hat 8.0 Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CANADIAN Red Hat Road Tour?


> Well, I didn't care too much about the hat (I already have 2 and lost a
> 3rd.) I'm a bit freaked not to have a t-shirt, but okay, I'll live
> without one. The 2-CD crippleware set of Red Hat made me yawn, since I
> have all 5 CD's tucked in my NFS directory. The keychain is nice, but I
> treasure the one my daughter gave me a few years ago. What really made
> me sad was that I didn't get a license-free, fully functional version of
> Red Hat Application Server and another license-free, fully functional
> version of Oracle 9i in exchange for my 3+ hours of driving (1 hour to
> the Road Tour event in Chantilly and 2 hours returning. The extra hour
> was courtesy of a massive traffic jam on Route 66 East.)
> 
> And I'd certainly like to know more about the 2 people who sat to my
> left. I suspect they were Red Hat employees in disguise...how else can
> you get a shirt that says "Operation Cheetah Flip"...
> 
> Bob Cochran
> Greenbelt, Maryland, USA
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 16:59, Tom Diehl wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Elton Woo wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Is there or will there be a Canadian Red Hat Road Tour?
> > > > > If so, where may one find details on it?
> > > > 
> > > > you know, before everyone gets their knickers in a knot
> > > > over this RH tour, it might be worth pointing out that
> > > > you can learn darn near everything you need on these
> > > > very red hat mailing lists.   unless someone who's actually
> > > > *been* to one of those things can fill us in on what
> > > > we're missing.
> > 
> > Agreed, but it was nice to have a face to face meeting with the developers
> > and QA guys. FWIW I asked enough questions to get a Black "Red Hat" hat!! :-) 
> > The road tour guys had REd Red Hat hats :-( They did not give out 
> > T-Shirts in Phila.
> > 
> > > I went to one last night (los angeles) and I think that Robert is correct, 
> > > in fact if you hang out on these lists you may be a little disappointed 
> > > with the tour if you're expecting to get amazingly detailed info.
> > 
> > One thing they did in Phila was to break into 2 groups. Newbee and more 
> > advanced. Since they did not have 2 rooms the "more advanced" group got to
> > stand outside in the cold, but it was still interesting.
> > 
> > > I learnt three main things:
> > > 1. The GNOME-Start menu duplicate entries for mouse/keyboard configuration 
> > > in SystemSettings and Preferences have confused lots of people and this 
> > > layout will be changed.
> > > 
> > > 2. Quite a few people are unhappy with the fact that the 
> > > minimal-recommended memory usage for a graphical workstation is 192Mb.  
> > > Someone (Dan Kegel?) pointed out that the rhn "throbber" in the panel uses 
> > > 12Mb!
> > > 
> > > 3. Don't go expecting to get a t-shirt (my main reason for attending!).  
> > > Of an audience of approximately 45 there were three t-shirts.  The guy 
> > > handing them out explained that their normal procedure is to give them to 
> > > the people that ask the most questions.  Lots of disappointed people 
> > > wandered off not quite consoled with the key-chain and demo-copy of Psyche 
> > > (3 cdroms, contains no devel-libs).
> > 
> > Hummm, My sample cd collection only had 2 cd's in it. Not of much use to me 
> > actually. Just what I need a crippeled version of RHL 8.0.
> > 
> > > All in all, it was interesting, but technically less so than this list, 
> > > and the efficiency of discussion was lower.
> > > 
> > > (Also I was really disappointed not to get a t-shirt!)
> > 
> > It was after all a marketing tour. Sponsered by our friends at IBM. 
> > I still think it was worth it though, but I got a hat!! :-))
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > 
> > We are still waiting 
> > 
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Gee ... all I wanted was a simple "YES" or "NO" to my
question. There is another thread running titled "RH
Road Tour", but all I see are discussions of different
types of beers.

I thought my question was _clearly_ stated.

... I guess I was wrong.


sincerely,

Elton Woo

P.S. I have PURPOSELY quoted the entire text of this thread, in the hopes that someone 
would point out where
*I* may have erred...

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CUPS utility for LEXMARK printers?

2002-11-15 Thread Elton Woo
 Is there a CUPS utility for checking ink level or
flushing the print heads of LEXMARK "Z" series
inkjet printers?

Any comments or links would be appreciated.

TIA,

Elton Woo ;-)

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Re: custom built kernel fails to mount root fs

2002-11-15 Thread Pete Huckelba
-make install- did not create an image for me nor did it install any image 
the last time I compiled a kernel (somewhere around the 2.4.7 series).  You 
may want to -man mkinitrd- and do it by hand to be sure and edit your grub 
or lilo accordingly.

Pete

At 10:26 AM 11/15/2002, you wrote:

   Marko> i just rebuilt the kernel using the following procedure:

   Marko> make mrproper
   Marko> make xconfig # loaded configuration from file
   Marko> make dep
   Marko> make bzImage
   Marko> make install
   Marko> make modules
   Marko> make modules_install

   Marko> but the result is still the same and the kernel is unable to
   Marko> mount the root filesystem.

The command sequence recommended in the Red Hat 8.0 Customization Guide
(Appenix A - Building a Custom Kernel) is:

make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
make install

You didn't do the "make clean" step, and you did the "make install" before
the "make modules" and "make modules_install".

"make install" creates an initrd image and updates the grub.conf file, and
it needs the results of "make modules_install" to do this properly.

This may not matter since you've built most things statically into your
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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread John P Verel
Um.

I get:

http://www.dailyclassifieds.com.au/SearchGames/GameDir.cgi?Category=Computer_Games-Video_Games&SubCategory=Word_Games

on Google.

John
On 11/15/02 11:53 -0500, Brent Fox wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:47, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:22:06 -0800 (PST)
> > anthony baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ha!
> > > I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> > > (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was this:
> > > 
> > > Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> > > www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.
> > > 
> > > I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for linux 
>software searches.  Who are they trying to kid?
> > 
> > What was your search string?
> 
> I think his search string was "Linux software for crossword puzzle
> creation"  ;)
> 
> Google does the same thing for me.  Actually just searching for "linux
> software" brings it up.
> 
> 
> Cheers, 
>Brent
> 
> 
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RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra

2002-11-15 Thread Sylvain Jodoin



Hi,
 
I'm new to Linux and just installed RH 8.0 Personal 
Desktop to learn and play with it. Everything seems to work correctly besides 
graphics. In fact, I just can't enable 3D hardware acceleration (the option is 
shaded so I can not enable it) with the result that graphical intensive apps are 
quite slow.
 
I have a P-III 450 Mhz PC with a Nvidia 
Riva TNT2 Ultra/32MB-based graphic board.
 
Any hints, resources, pointers for newbie on how to 
resolve this would be highly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Sylvain.


Re: mimencode and/or base64

2002-11-15 Thread Ron Olsen

Keith> Okay, I'll bit.  Now that metamail has been dropped from psyche,
Keith> how do I command line decode base64 files. I'm taking a look at
Keith> a klez trap I'm using in conjuction with procmail.  "man -k
Keith> base64" shows:

Keith> MIME::Base64 (3pm) - Encoding and decoding of base64 strings
Keith> MIME::Decoder::Base64 (3pm) - encode/decode a base64 stream
Keith> MIME::Decoder::Gzip64 (3pm) - decode a base64 gzip stream

Keith> but no programmer am I.  Just looking for a clue, Google is
Keith> being unusually obtuse for me tonight.

You need to use an ftp search engine to find files.  Here's what a search
for "base64 encode" turned up using http://www.alltheweb.com:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/base64/

There's a Unix source package (base64-1.3.tar.gz) you can download from
that site.

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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2002-11-15 Thread Markku Kolkka
Viestissä Perjantai 15. Marraskuuta 2002 16:16, Sittampalam Nagu kirjoitti:
> I have installed red hat v8 on a Compaq Proliant ML350. What I am finding
> is the security level is set to high even if I pick no firewall.

No. The firewall setup tool doesn't report the current security level, it 
highlights the "high" button always no matter the previously selected 
security level is.

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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 06:54, Brian K. Jones wrote:
> On Friday 15 November 2002 5:54 am, John wrote:
> >
> > I'm beginning to think Psyche is a good one to miss.
> 
> Amen brother.  This will also slow my dept's adoption of the next release.  
> Inevitably, I'll also end up having to run another distro somewhere in the 
> department just so I'm comfortable enough with another distro to change if we 
> feel the need.  I recommended against upgrading our servers to 8.0.

There's nothing wrong with that policy.  I always use the last minor
release of the last series (currently 7.3) on servers, so there's no
pressure from any user or admin to upgrade because a new minor release
was made.  7.3 is an excellent platform, and it will continue to be
stable and supported for a long time coming.

> If I 
> need to do it again for the next release, it's not gonna fly, we'll have to 
> either hack the hell out of the 7.3 boxes or switch distros.  

Why, do you operate under some sort of mandate that you must operate
under the latest release?  That's just a little bit ridiculous. 
Upgrading for the sake of the latest release, without some compelling
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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Bob Goodwin
RealPlayer 8 for Linux works with WABC.

I just went to this site and clicked on WABC (the lightning bolt icon to
play the Internet feed) and a window popped up asking if I wanted to
save or use an application but there wasn't an application option given.

How does one play streaming audio in RH 8, please? (Don't have a manual
set yet.)
http://www.radio-locater.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y

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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Elton Woo

- Original Message -
From: "Dr. David M. Colburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 15 Nov 2002 10:54:04 -0500 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?


> I just went to this site and clicked on WABC (the lightning bolt icon to
> play the Internet feed) and a window popped up asking if I wanted to
> save or use an application but there wasn't an application option given.
> 
> How does one play streaming audio in RH 8, please? (Don't have a manual
> set yet.)
> 
>http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y
> 
> Thanks!  doc 

 You need to have Realaudio / Realplayer installed. 
Go to Netscape, plugins, and then to Real Audio.
Select downloads, and your OS (linux), you will then be
directed to "community supported" plugin

cheers,

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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Bob Goodwin
My spell checker "corrected" locator to "locater" -

Better use this link.

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y 





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Re: Noatun

2002-11-15 Thread Elton Woo

- Original Message -
From: Scott Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Nov 2002 17:48:52 + 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Noatun


> Anyone know why nothing happens when I select an .mpg file and play?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Scott
> -- 
> PK
>

Read the RELEASE NOTES in RH 8.0 ... mpg and mp3 isn not supported
due to licencing issues. However, you can go to 
http://freshrpms.net/

  then download and install ALSA (aalib-, alsa-lib-, alsaplayer-, and
alsa-xmms. This will install the needed CODECS to play mpg video and mp3
audio files...

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Re: hard drive recovery (was can't start kde)

2002-11-15 Thread Justin Georgeson
Anybody? Anything? I know I can backup personal files and reinstall, but 
that sucks. Isn't there anything else I can do?

What, exactly, does the --force option of up2date do? I thought maybe I 
could just up2date --force  for each package that rpm -V 
 reports missing files for. But the up2date doesn't install do 
it because I already have it installed.

Justin Georgeson wrote:

So a few nights ago, power went out and my machine came down hard. I had
to run fsck manually, and there is a lot of stuff in /lost+found. I'm
finding many things aren't working right, indeed there are many exe's
missing. How do I repair this? I thought the journaling in ext3 was
supposed to help with stuff like this.



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RE: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Carter, Shaun G
just tried this with a google search of linux software crossword.  here are
the top 4 results

http://software.linux.com/projects/crossword/?topic=371,375
http://shareware.about.com/library/games/puzzles/bl_crossword_compiler.htm
http://pda.surfnet.nl/epoc/adnload/168348_55639.html
http://www.geekstreet.us/print.php?sid=100

with some subpages in between.  Seems like it was a fluke result

Shaun

-Original Message-
From: Keith Winston [mailto:kwinston@;twmi.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux software-ultimate insult


On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:47, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:22:06 -0800 (PST)
> anthony baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ha!
> > I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> > (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was
this:
> > 
> > Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> > www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.
> > 
> > I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for
linux software searches.  Who are they trying to kid?
> 
> What was your search string?

I used these words in a Google search: 

linux software crossword

and got the above link at the FIRST one!  Amazing.

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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Jay Turner wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:54:06PM +0800, John wrote:
> > It is not a Perl problem:
> > summer@orange summer]$ xxd x
> > 000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
> > [summer@orange summer]$ cat x
> > [summer@orange summer]$
> 
> How very odd . . . works just fine here on all of the machines I just poked
> at.


Turn your bash customisation off and try again.

 
> [haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/test.pl
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> print 'hello';
> [haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl
> hello[haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl > /tmp/foo
> [haring (root):~]# xxd /tmp/foo
> 000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
> [haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/foo
> hello[haring (root):~]#
> 
> [haring (root):~]# rpm -q bash
> bash-2.05b-5
> 
> - jkt
> 
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Re: Gigabyte Motherboards

2002-11-15 Thread John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, John Horne wrote:

> I used to follow the gigabyte newgroup, used to see many messages from those
> with boards with problems, and those who said that had no problems with them
> at all :-)
> 
Given the newsgroups are for people with problems, I guess finding a lot of
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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Mr. Adam ALLEN
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 15:54, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:
> I just went to this site and clicked on WABC (the lightning bolt icon to
> play the Internet feed) and a window popped up asking if I wanted to
> save or use an application but there wasn't an application option given.
> 
> How does one play streaming audio in RH 8, please? (Don't have a manual
> set yet.)
> 
>http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y

> Thanks!  doc 

If you haven't installed realplayer, then download it from:
http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html

Install it - and it should integrate nicely into Gnome/KDE.
(at the worst it will ask you which application you wish to open it
with, to which you should answer "realplay").


The station you chose is RealAudio format, which has a community support
player. For Windows Media format- you can either use Crossover Plugin to
install Windows Media Player 6.4, or mplayer manages some windows media
(rpms available at http://psyche.freshrpms.net/). Not sure that it would
be integrated into the browser..


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Re: mimencode and/or base64

2002-11-15 Thread Elton Woo

- Original Message -
From: Keith Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:54:21 -0800 (PST) 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mimencode and/or base64


> 
> Okay, I'll bit.  Now that metamail has been dropped from psyche, how do I 
> command line decode base64 files. I'm taking a look at a klez trap I'm 
> using in conjuction with procmail.  "man -k base64" shows:
> 
> MIME::Base64 (3pm)  - Encoding and decoding of base64 strings
> MIME::Decoder::Base64 (3pm)  - encode/decode a base64 stream
> MIME::Decoder::Gzip64 (3pm)  - decode a base64 gzip stream
> 
> 
> but no programmer am I.  Just looking for a clue, Google is being 
> unusually obtuse for me tonight.


 I take it you mean to decode / encode in newsgroups?
Why not use PAN? It does decoding, and I would guess, 
it should also do *encoding* when posting attachments
to newsgroups...

HTH & cheers,

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Re: missing link Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0

2002-11-15 Thread Randall J. Parr




Elton Woo wrote:

  - Original Message -
From: Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Nov 2002 09:08:53 -0800 
To: Psyche Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0


  
  
Whoops, thanks for catching that. Glad you like it.

On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:17, Robert L. Cochran wrote:


  Love the tutorial. One small correction. applications.vfolder-info lives
  

  
  
  
  

  On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:52, Michael Knepher wrote:
  
  
I've whipped up a brief tutorial on hand-editing the Gnome menus in
RH8.0. It's at http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/rh8menu.html. Comments or

  

  
  
  Mozilla reports "missing link"??  ... not a typo on my part, as I sinmply
clicked on the link in your original message..

cheers

Elton Woo ;-)
  

works for me using Mozilla 1.0 on RH 73.
ie I can click on the link above and I'm there

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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Dan Clowater
That's easy - make sure XMMS is installed, as well as the mpg123 decoder
rpm see http://staff.xmms.org/priv/redhat8/

Then when you click on the streming audio thingmie-type-icon pick choose
application instead of save file... point it to your xmms installation. 
Probably something like /usr/bin/xmms and tadaaa - streamed music to
your ears!

Cheers,
Dan

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 10:54, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:
> I just went to this site and clicked on WABC (the lightning bolt icon to
> play the Internet feed) and a window popped up asking if I wanted to
> save or use an application but there wasn't an application option given.
> 
> How does one play streaming audio in RH 8, please? (Don't have a manual
> set yet.)
> 
>http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y
> 
> Thanks!  doc 
> 
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Re: missing link Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0

2002-11-15 Thread Michael Knepher
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 11:44, Elton Woo wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 13 Nov 2002 09:08:53 -0800 
> To: Psyche Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0
> 
> 
> > Whoops, thanks for catching that. Glad you like it.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:17, Robert L. Cochran wrote:
> > > Love the tutorial. One small correction. applications.vfolder-info lives
> 
> > > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:52, Michael Knepher wrote:
> > > > I've whipped up a brief tutorial on hand-editing the Gnome menus in
> > > > RH8.0. It's at http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/rh8menu.html. Comments or
> 
>   Mozilla reports "missing link"??  ... not a typo on my part, as I sinmply
> clicked on the link in your original message..
> 
> cheers
> 
> Elton Woo ;-)
> 
Ithink there may have been a permissions problem. Give it a try now.
> 
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Re: video problem

2002-11-15 Thread Linn Kubler
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/15/02 00:09 AM >>>
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Linn Kubler wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Kind of a rookie here so I'm hoping someone can help me out.  I have
an
> older computer, PII 266MHz, with a Diamond Stealth II S220 graphics
> card.  Was originally running Windows 95 and worked fine.
> 
> I recently installed RH8.0 and it's basically working but when I run
> startx it launches but it's huge.  The task bar covers about 1/3 of
the
> screen and icons are about 3" wide.  It looks like the resolution is
way
> down, like whatever the next setting below 640x480 is.

Can you switch resolutions using Ctrl-Alt-KeyPad+  or Ctrl-Alt-KeyPad- 
?

Can I switch resolutions with keyboard... No, nothing happens.

> 
> Question is then, how can I correct this?  I should also mention that
> during the installation, when it let me pick the graphics card and
test
> it I couldn't get it to display any resonable resolution.  This card
was
> listed in the selection list but it would just blink and go right back
> when I hit the test button, regardless of the resolution setting.
> 
> I checked for drivers at the Diamond site but of course couldn't find
> any.
> 
> I'm open to suggestions here. (crossing fingers there's another option
> other than replacing the video card.)

What chip is the card based upon?  Is it a savage?  Do a `grep "savage" 

/etc/X11/XF86Config"  or a `grep -i "savage" /var/log/XFree86.0.log '
and
post the output here.  If it is a savage then it should be possible to
get
it working.

Chipset looks to be S3.  When I looked at the XF86Config file I don't
see the Stealth II S220 at all.  It does have a section for "Device" and
"Screen".

"Device" shows the Identifier as "Rendition Verite 2x00"
"Driver" is "vga"
VendorName = "Rendition Verite 2x00"
BoardName = "Rendition Verite 2x00"

The "Screen" section shows:
Indentifier = Screen0
Device = Rendition Verite 2x00
Monitor = Monitor0
DefaultDepth = 8

Then there's a section for "Display".  None of this looks right, I
selected the Stealth II S220 I'm sure of it.

Is it possible to correct this without the graphical interface?  It's
just unusable.

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Re: Evolution 1.2

2002-11-15 Thread Michael Knepher
I have about 6 accounts on three servers, and haven't had any problems.
You might try checking the evolution FAQ/knowledge base at ximian.com. I
think this was a problem with some earlier versions, so there might be a
fix there.

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 08:13, Dan Clowater wrote:
> Hey - is anyone else having problems with evolution 1.2 not keeping mail configs.
> It is keeping my main email address and info, but it is not retaining my yahoo login 
> whenever I restart evolution?!?
> 
> Has anyone found this problem - if so how to fix it?!
> Thanks
> DC
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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

2002-11-15 Thread David Willson
That seems to be the case, but the fact is that Lokkit doesn't call your
configuration onto the form.  Yes, it's stupid, but no, it's not
ignoring you entirely.  And BTW, you need to run 
"/etc/init.d/iptables restart" or "service iptables restart"
to make your Lokkit changes take effect.

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:16, Sittampalam Nagu wrote:
> Hello
> 
>  
> 
> I have installed red hat v8 on a Compaq Proliant ML350. What I am finding is
> the security level is set to high even if I pick no firewall. If I run the
> tool to change the security level and it accepts the change but does not
> change it
> 
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> 
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Re: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Gary Gardner
Brent
Freshmeat has a "crossword generator" never used tho.Gary
 Brent Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:47, Kevin Waterson wrote:> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:22:06 -0800 (PST)> anthony baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > > Ha!> > I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.> > (Any ideas, please send them!) At the top of the search results was this:> > > > Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.> > www.microsoft.com/vstudio Click for a free online hosted session.> > > > I'm not lying; Try it for yourself. Microshaft is buying links for linux software searches. Who are they trying to kid?> > What was your search string?I think his search string was "Linux software for crossword puzzlecreation" ;)Google does the same thing for me. Actually just searching for "linuxsoftware" brings it up.Cheers, Brent
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RE: eject CD after install

2002-11-15 Thread Stephen Mah
I tried it again on several desktops and laptops that have been known to work on 
RH7.3. The CD media fails to eject from a standard RH8 install CD and a customized 
kickstart CD.

Very strange

steve

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Subject: Re: eject CD after install


Stephen Mah wrote:
> 
> I recall that Valhalla ejected the CD after an install.
> 
> I don't think it is doing that after a RH8 install. Has anyone noticed
> this or is it just me?
> 
> Thanks
> steve

Just you?  I did two test installs and the CD was ejected after finishing.

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Re: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

2002-11-15 Thread John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Manfred Hollstein wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, 14:47:49 +0100, Jay Turner wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:54:06PM +0800, John wrote:
> > > It is not a Perl problem:
> > > summer@orange summer]$ xxd x
> > > 000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
> > > [summer@orange summer]$ cat x
> > > [summer@orange summer]$
> > 
> > How very odd . . . works just fine here on all of the machines I just poked
> > at.
> > 
> > [haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/test.pl
> > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > print 'hello';
> > [haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl
> > hello[haring (root):~]# perl /tmp/test.pl > /tmp/foo
> > [haring (root):~]# xxd /tmp/foo
> > 000: 6865 6c6c 6f hello
> > [haring (root):~]# cat /tmp/foo
> > hello[haring (root):~]#
> > 
> > [haring (root):~]# rpm -q bash
> > bash-2.05b-5
> 
> bash is emitting a '\r' before printing the prompt (PS1); if you set
> PS1 to the empty string, you'll see the string 'hello' _after_ the
> cursor...

Does installing bash from RHL 7.3 cure the problem? I note that I do _not_ have
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Re: missing link Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0

2002-11-15 Thread John
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Elton Woo wrote:

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 13 Nov 2002 09:08:53 -0800 
> To: Psyche Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Brief Tutorial on GNOME Menu Editing in RH 8.0
> 
> 
> > Whoops, thanks for catching that. Glad you like it.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:17, Robert L. Cochran wrote:
> > > Love the tutorial. One small correction. applications.vfolder-info lives
> 
> > > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:52, Michael Knepher wrote:
> > > > I've whipped up a brief tutorial on hand-editing the Gnome menus in
> > > > RH8.0. It's at http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/rh8menu.html. Comments or
> 
>   Mozilla reports "missing link"??  ... not a typo on my part, as I sinmply
> clicked on the link in your original message..
> 
> cheers
> 
> Elton Woo ;-)
> 


Sucked in. Take the dot off the end.

I prefer to omit _all_ punctuation round URIs I quote for this reason.




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Re: CANADIAN Red Hat Road Tour?

2002-11-15 Thread Arend
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Elton Woo wrote:

> > > > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Elton Woo wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Is there or will there be a Canadian Red Hat Road Tour?
> > > > > > If so, where may one find details on it?
> > > > > 

> Gee ... all I wanted was a simple "YES" or "NO" to my
> question. There is another thread running titled "RH
> Road Tour", but all I see are discussions of different
> types of beers.

IANARHE, but: No.

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Re: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra

2002-11-15 Thread Mike Chambers
- Original Message -
From: "Sylvain Jodoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra


>I'm new to Linux and just installed RH 8.0 Personal Desktop to learn and
play with it. Everything seems to work correctly >besides graphics. In fact,
I just can't enable 3D hardware acceleration (the option is shaded so I can
not enable it) with the >result that graphical intensive apps are quite
slow.

>I have a P-III 450 Mhz PC with a Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra/32MB-based graphic
board.

First off, please post to the list in text mode, as it helps others, and
your emails won't get deleted automatically because it's in HTML.

Second, I don't think you'll get 3D with the nv (nVidia) driver from open
source.  You'll have to go to nVidia's web site and download/install their
drivers to get 3D acceleration and other goodies.

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RE: video problem

2002-11-15 Thread Linn Kubler
Ran that but it didn't help much, all I see is the top of two tabs.  One
says Display and the other Advanced.  I can click on them but I need to
be able to zoom back to actually see the other controls.

See my response to Oisin for further discussion, looks like I have the
wrong card selected.

Thanks,
Linn


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/02 21:01 PM >>>
Run the 'redhat-config-xfree86' from the command prompt or console in X.
This will allow you to reconfigure XF86. And it will allow you to
configure
the monitor also. (Make sure you are logged on as root)

Wolf

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|From: Linn Kubler [mailto:LKubler@;ecw.org] 
|Sent: Friday, 15 November 2002 12:31 pm
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: video problem
|
|
|Hi All,
|
|Kind of a rookie here so I'm hoping someone can help me out.  
|I have an older computer, PII 266MHz, with a Diamond Stealth 
|II S220 graphics card.  Was originally running Windows 95 and 
|worked fine.
|
|I recently installed RH8.0 and it's basically working but when 
|I run startx it launches but it's huge.  The task bar covers 
|about 1/3 of the screen and icons are about 3" wide.  It looks 
|like the resolution is way down, like whatever the next 
|setting below 640x480 is.
|
|Question is then, how can I correct this?  I should also 
|mention that during the installation, when it let me pick the 
|graphics card and test it I couldn't get it to display any 
|resonable resolution.  This card was listed in the selection 
|list but it would just blink and go right back when I hit the 
|test button, regardless of the resolution setting.
|
|I checked for drivers at the Diamond site but of course 
|couldn't find any.
|
|I'm open to suggestions here. (crossing fingers there's 
|another option other than replacing the video card.)
|
|Thanks in advance,
|Linn

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Re: CANADIAN Red Hat Road Tour?

2002-11-15 Thread Thomas Dodd


Elton Woo wrote:


On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Robert P. J. Day wrote:


On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Elton Woo wrote:


Is there or will there be a Canadian Red Hat Road Tour?
If so, where may one find details on it?
   

you know, before everyone gets their knickers in a knot
over this RH tour, it might be worth pointing out that
you can learn darn near everything you need on these
very red hat mailing lists.   unless someone who's actually
*been* to one of those things can fill us in on what
we're missing.


Gee ... all I wanted was a simple "YES" or "NO" to my
 

My guess is the answere tio the first is "NO", and the second is NA.
But it may be that that's not yet decided, or has been decided but not 
announced.

I thought my question was _clearly_ stated.
 

It was.


P.S. I have PURPOSELY quoted the entire text of this thread, in the hopes that someone would point out where *I* may have erred...


You didn't. Just nobody here know, or cannot say if they do.
Then Robert went a little west, and the thread was soon headed due 
south, completely forgetting the original northward trip :)

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Re: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra

2002-11-15 Thread Mr. Adam ALLEN
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 18:59, Sylvain Jodoin wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I'm new to Linux and just installed RH 8.0 Personal Desktop to learn
> and play with it. Everything seems to work correctly besides graphics.
> In fact, I just can't enable 3D hardware acceleration (the option is
> shaded so I can not enable it) with the result that graphical
> intensive apps are quite slow.
>  
> I have a P-III 450 Mhz PC with a Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra/32MB-based
> graphic board.

That sounds familiar so that could be the same card that I have 

> Any hints, resources, pointers for newbie on how to resolve this would
> be highly appreciated.

If you haven't downloaded the drivers from nVidia's site, then that's
the first job. There's two files, a GLX file and a Kernel file. 
nVidia pre-compile the drivers, so you either need to match the kernel
you are running (probably 2.4.18), or you can download 'generic' files
which you can rebuild - each time you upgrade the kernel you will need
to reinstall the drivers for the graphic card. My personal choice would
be the GLX SOURCE RPM and KERNEL SOURCE RPM. (I'd keep these on the
machine in a handy location for future use).

Follow the instructions, 
rpmbuild --rebuild 
the docs will say rpm --rebuild

Then you may need to change /etc/X11/XF86Config, as directed in the
readme file from nVidia's page.


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Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?

2002-11-15 Thread Dr. David M. Colburn
In RedHat 8 I visit this site and request the loop and get a blue puzzle
piece and no looping video.  Suggested solution, please?
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmlb.shtml

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RE: linux software-ultimate insult

2002-11-15 Thread Michael Knepher
It's an ad (i.e., one of the colored "sponsored links" above the
results) that shows up with a fairly high frequency when a search is
executed for "linux software". It was *not* one of the search results.

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 12:11, Carter, Shaun G wrote:
> just tried this with a google search of linux software crossword.  here are
> the top 4 results
> 
> http://software.linux.com/projects/crossword/?topic=371,375
> http://shareware.about.com/library/games/puzzles/bl_crossword_compiler.htm
> http://pda.surfnet.nl/epoc/adnload/168348_55639.html
> http://www.geekstreet.us/print.php?sid=100
> 
> with some subpages in between.  Seems like it was a fluke result
> 
> Shaun
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Keith Winston [mailto:kwinston@;twmi.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 10:58 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: linux software-ultimate insult
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:47, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:22:06 -0800 (PST)
> > anthony baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ha!
> > > I did a google search for Linux software for crossword puzzle creation.
> > > (Any ideas, please send them!)  At the top of the search results was
> this:
> > > 
> > > Linux Software - Discover Microsoft Visual Studio .NET today.
> > > www.microsoft.com/vstudio  Click for a free online hosted session.
> > > 
> > > I'm not lying; Try it for yourself.  Microshaft is buying links for
> linux software searches.  Who are they trying to kid?
> > 
> > What was your search string?
> 
> I used these words in a Google search: 
> 
> linux software crossword
> 
> and got the above link at the FIRST one!  Amazing.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Keith
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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Dr. David M. Colburn
I know that Mozilla is the foundation of Netscape -- will the Netscape
plugin work OK with Mozilla?  (I have Mozilla 1.0.1 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830)

Thanks!  doc 

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 14:56, Elton Woo wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dr. David M. Colburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 15 Nov 2002 10:54:04 -0500 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?
> 
> 
> > I just went to this site and clicked on WABC (the lightning bolt icon to
> > play the Internet feed) and a window popped up asking if I wanted to
> > save or use an application but there wasn't an application option given.
> > 
> > How does one play streaming audio in RH 8, please? (Don't have a manual
> > set yet.)
> > 
>http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y
> > 
> > Thanks!  doc 
> 
>  You need to have Realaudio / Realplayer installed. 
> Go to Netscape, plugins, and then to Real Audio.
> Select downloads, and your OS (linux), you will then be
> directed to "community supported" plugin
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Elton Woo ;-)
> 
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what is fcs?

2002-11-15 Thread Stephen Mah
j2re-1_4_0_01-fcs-linux-i386.rpm



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Re: hard drive recovery (was can't start kde)

2002-11-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:10:08PM -0600, Justin Georgeson wrote:
> Anybody? Anything? I know I can backup personal files and reinstall, but 
> that sucks. Isn't there anything else I can do?
> 
> What, exactly, does the --force option of up2date do? I thought maybe I 
> could just up2date --force  for each package that rpm -V 
>  reports missing files for. But the up2date doesn't install do 
> it because I already have it installed.

The --force option is used for things like the kernel that are typically
excluded.  What you could do is download the rpms but not install them
(with the --download option) and then use rpm --replacepkgs or rpm
--force.  The rpms should be download by up2date to /var/lib/rpm.

Depending on what files were lost, you may also want to consider
running rpm2cpio on the binary rpm to give you a cpio archive.  Then use
cpio to copy the individual files over.

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Re: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra

2002-11-15 Thread Erwin J. Prinz
Sylvain:

To get 3D acceleration with NVIDIA cards, you need to install their 
binary-only drivers.

See:
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_display_1.0-3123

Best regards, Erwin


Sylvain Jodoin wrote:

Hi,
 
I'm new to Linux and just installed RH 8.0 Personal Desktop to learn 
and play with it. Everything seems to work correctly besides graphics. 
In fact, I just can't enable 3D hardware acceleration (the option is 
shaded so I can not enable it) with the result that graphical 
intensive apps are quite slow.
 
I have a P-III 450 Mhz PC with a Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra/32MB-based 
graphic board.
 
Any hints, resources, pointers for newbie on how to resolve this would 
be highly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
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Re: custom built kernel fails to mount root fs

2002-11-15 Thread Ron Olsen

Ron> "make install" creates an initrd image and updates the grub.conf
Ron> file, and it needs the results of "make modules_install" to do
Ron> this properly.

Pete> -make install- did not create an image for me nor did it install
Pete> any image the last time I compiled a kernel (somewhere around the
Pete> 2.4.7 series).  You may want to -man mkinitrd- and do it by hand
Pete> to be sure and edit your grub or lilo accordingly.

Things have changed since you last built a custom kernel.  From the RH 8.0
Customization Guide, Appendix A, Building a Custom Kernel:

12. Use "make install" to copy your new kernel and its associated files to
the proper directories.

In addition to installing the kernel files in the /boot directory, this
command also executes the /sbin/new-kernel-pkg script that builds a new
initrd image and adds new entries to the boot loader configuration
file.

If you have a SCSI adapter and you compiled the SCSI driver as a module
or if you built your kernel with ext3 support as a module (the default
in Red Hat Linux), the initrd image is required.

13. Even though the initrd image and boot loader modifications are made for
you, you should verify that they were done correctly. Refer to the
Section called "Making an initrd Image" and the Section called
"Configuring the Boot Loader" for details.

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recompile kernel 2.2.18-3

2002-11-15 Thread Ha Tu
Hi,

I received a message "warning: Clock skew detected.
Your build may be incomplete." while running "make" or
"make clean"

Does anyone please tell me the reason why?

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RE: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra

2002-11-15 Thread David Willson
I've had the dubious pleasure of doing this at least six times now.
Here are "David Willson's Instructions for the Ridiculously Impatient".
Yes, you actually DO have to do all this.

- Install the kernel-source, if you haven't already.
  'rpm -Uvh /somewhere/RedHat/rpms/kernel-source-something.rpm'
- Do a complete up2date, if you haven't already.
  'up2date --update --force'
- Download the kernel driver src.rpm and the GLX driver src.rpm from
nVidia's website.
- Build the binary version of each file with something like
  'rpmbuild --rebuild ~/blah.src.rpm'
  Take note of the location of the binaries as you build them!  It's
given in the output.
- Install the binary rpms.  'rpm -Uvh kernel.rpm'  'rpm -Uvh glx.rpm'
- Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config to make three changes:
  - In the 'Section "Module"' section, pound (#) out 'Load "dri"' and
'Load "GLcore"'.
  - In the same section, add 'Load "glx"', if it's not already there.
  - In the 'Section "Device"' section, change the name of driver
from "nv" or "VESA" or whatever to "nvidia"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Mr. Adam ALLEN
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra


On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 18:59, Sylvain Jodoin wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I'm new to Linux and just installed RH 8.0 Personal Desktop to learn 
> and play with it. Everything seems to work correctly besides graphics.

> In fact, I just can't enable 3D hardware acceleration (the option is 
> shaded so I can not enable it) with the result that graphical 
> intensive apps are quite slow.
>  
> I have a P-III 450 Mhz PC with a Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra/32MB-based 
> graphic board.

That sounds familiar so that could be the same card that I have 

> Any hints, resources, pointers for newbie on how to resolve this would

> be highly appreciated.

If you haven't downloaded the drivers from nVidia's site, then that's
the first job. There's two files, a GLX file and a Kernel file. 
nVidia pre-compile the drivers, so you either need to match the kernel
you are running (probably 2.4.18), or you can download 'generic' files
which you can rebuild - each time you upgrade the kernel you will need
to reinstall the drivers for the graphic card. My personal choice would
be the GLX SOURCE RPM and KERNEL SOURCE RPM. (I'd keep these on the
machine in a handy location for future use).

Follow the instructions, 
rpmbuild --rebuild 
the docs will say rpm --rebuild

Then you may need to change /etc/X11/XF86Config, as directed in the
readme file from nVidia's page.


Hopefully this points you in the right direction.

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How To Extract A Pentium 4 CPU

2002-11-15 Thread Robert L. Cochran
I realize this is an *operating system* forum, but I suspect a lot of
you work with hardware. I need to extract a Pentium 4, 2.8 Ghz CPU from
one motherboard and install it on another. Do I need a special tool? Or
can I just use forefinger and thumb?

Thanks

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RE: Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?

2002-11-15 Thread David Willson
You're going to need to install you some Java, doc.  Start here
http://java.sun.com/linux/

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Subject: Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?


In RedHat 8 I visit this site and request the loop and get a blue puzzle
piece and no looping video.  Suggested solution, please?
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmlb.shtml

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Re: mimencode and/or base64

2002-11-15 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Joshua Andrews wrote:

> Keith Morse wrote:
> 
> >Okay, I'll bit.  Now that metamail has been dropped from psyche, how do I 
> >command line decode base64 files. I'm taking a look at a klez trap I'm 
> >using in conjuction with procmail.  "man -k base64" shows:
> >
> >MIME::Base64 (3pm)  - Encoding and decoding of base64 strings
> >MIME::Decoder::Base64 (3pm)  - encode/decode a base64 stream
> >MIME::Decoder::Gzip64 (3pm)  - decode a base64 gzip stream
> >
> >
> >but no programmer am I.  Just looking for a clue, Google is being 
> >unusually obtuse for me tonight.
> >
> >
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> use MIME::Base64;
> print decode_base64("_insert_MIME_encoded_here_");


As I said, no programmer I.   So with your example above it would be 
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Re: mimencode and/or base64

2002-11-15 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Elton Woo wrote:

> 
> From: Keith Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > Okay, I'll bit.  Now that metamail has been dropped from psyche, how do I 
> > command line decode base64 files. I'm taking a look at a klez trap I'm 
> > using in conjuction with procmail.  "man -k base64" shows:
> > 
> > MIME::Base64 (3pm)  - Encoding and decoding of base64 strings
> > MIME::Decoder::Base64 (3pm)  - encode/decode a base64 stream
> > MIME::Decoder::Gzip64 (3pm)  - decode a base64 gzip stream
> > 
> > 
> > but no programmer am I.  Just looking for a clue, Google is being 
> > unusually obtuse for me tonight.
> 
> 
>  I take it you mean to decode / encode in newsgroups?
> Why not use PAN? It does decoding, and I would guess, 
> it should also do *encoding* when posting attachments
> to newsgroups...
> 

Nope, not newsgroups.  Just a file that contains trapped klez's from my 
main procmail recipe.  I want to see what is contained in the mail 
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Re: mimencode and/or base64

2002-11-15 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Ron Olsen wrote:

> 
> Keith> Okay, I'll bit.  Now that metamail has been dropped from psyche,
> Keith> how do I command line decode base64 files. I'm taking a look at
> Keith> a klez trap I'm using in conjuction with procmail.  "man -k
> Keith> base64" shows:
> 
> Keith> MIME::Base64 (3pm) - Encoding and decoding of base64 strings
> Keith> MIME::Decoder::Base64 (3pm) - encode/decode a base64 stream
> Keith> MIME::Decoder::Gzip64 (3pm) - decode a base64 gzip stream
> 
> Keith> but no programmer am I.  Just looking for a clue, Google is
> Keith> being unusually obtuse for me tonight.
> 
> You need to use an ftp search engine to find files.  Here's what a search
> for "base64 encode" turned up using http://www.alltheweb.com:
> 
> http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/base64/
> 
> There's a Unix source package (base64-1.3.tar.gz) you can download from
> that site.

Thanks, I did some cursory checking but didn't find the base64 package.  
I'll try that.



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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Dr. David M. Colburn
I chose the Linux i386 rpm version rather than the old RH6.2 
version, not sure if that was the best choice.

I did the download and followed the instructions:

as root ...

mv rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs2.rpm

then ...

rpm rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs2.rpm

got instructions about rpm 

then ...

rpm rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs2.rpm --force

got error message "only installation, upgrading, rmsource and rmspec may
be forced"

Help, please?

Thanks!  doc 

> If you haven't installed realplayer, then download it from:
> http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html
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Re: Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?

2002-11-15 Thread John P Verel

What browser?  My Mozilla works fine.
On 11/15/02 19:35 -0500, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:
> In RedHat 8 I visit this site and request the loop and get a blue puzzle
> piece and no looping video.  Suggested solution, please?
> http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmlb.shtml
> 
> Thanks!  doc 
> 
> 
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Re: mimencode and/or base64

2002-11-15 Thread R P Herrold
> > Keith> Okay, I'll bit.  Now that metamail has been dropped from psyche,
> > Keith> how do I command line decode base64 files. I'm taking a look at

ummm -- openssl ?





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Re: Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?

2002-11-15 Thread Dr. David M. Colburn
Mozilla, unmodified from the generic RH8 install.

doc

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 22:55, John P Verel wrote:
> What browser?  My Mozilla works fine.
> On 11/15/02 19:35 -0500, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:
> > In RedHat 8 I visit this site and request the loop and get a blue puzzle
> > piece and no looping video.  Suggested solution, please?
> > http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmlb.shtml
> > 
> > Thanks!  doc 




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Re: video problem

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin McConnell

--- Linn Kubler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chipset looks to be S3.  When I looked at the
> XF86Config file I don't
> see the Stealth II S220 at all.  It does have a
> section for "Device" and
> "Screen".
> 
> "Device" shows the Identifier as "Rendition Verite
> 2x00"
> "Driver" is "vga"
> VendorName = "Rendition Verite 2x00"
> BoardName = "Rendition Verite 2x00"

That is the correct driver for this chipset. I also
have a stealth II S220 and my section reads the same.

> 
> The "Screen" section shows:
> Indentifier = Screen0
> Device = Rendition Verite 2x00
> Monitor = Monitor0
> DefaultDepth = 8
> 
> Then there's a section for "Display".  None of this
> looks right, I
> selected the Stealth II S220 I'm sure of it.
> 
> Is it possible to correct this without the graphical
> interface?  It's
> just unusable.

I have the same problem with mine if I try to run X on
it. I made that machine into a firewall box since text
works fine. I am thinking that the newest version of
XFree86 is what's causing the problem. Let me know if
you find out anything good.


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RE: video problem

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin McConnell

--- Linn Kubler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ran that but it didn't help much, all I see is the
> top of two tabs.  One
> says Display and the other Advanced.  I can click on
> them but I need to
> be able to zoom back to actually see the other
> controls.

If you have another box on the local lan, you can
alternatively install the vnc software and tell it to
run at 1024x768 and and then use another computer's
web browser to vnc it and change the config.

> 
> See my response to Oisin for further discussion,
> looks like I have the
> wrong card selected.

I doubt it's your card selection. As I stated earlier,
I selected the card from the card database and it gave
me the same driver and chipset combo as you, and mine
exhibited the same symptoms.


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Re: what is fcs?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin McConnell

--- Stephen Mah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> j2re-1_4_0_01-fcs-linux-i386.rpm
> 

Just a guess 
the "f" might be for final and the "s" might be for
software. And the "c" well, I have no idea, so you'll
just have to think of something clever. ;)


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Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

2002-11-15 Thread Neil Loffhagen
Doc,

If you mean can you get RealPlayer working with Mozilla the answer is
yes.  Once you have RealPlayer installed, copy the plugins from the
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder to the /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.1/plugins
folder.

Should then work.  At least it did for me.  I found that any plugins
installed defaulted to putting files in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and did
not work.  But when copied to /usr/lib/mozilla-1.0.1/plugins did.

Hope this helps.

Neil.

On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 00:40, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:
> I know that Mozilla is the foundation of Netscape -- will the Netscape
> plugin work OK with Mozilla?  (I have Mozilla 1.0.1 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
> Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830)
> 
> Thanks!  doc 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 14:56, Elton Woo wrote:
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dr. David M. Colburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 15 Nov 2002 10:54:04 -0500 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?
> > 
> > 
> > > I just went to this site and clicked on WABC (the lightning bolt icon to
> > > play the Internet feed) and a window popped up asking if I wanted to
> > > save or use an application but there wasn't an application option given.
> > > 
> > > How does one play streaming audio in RH 8, please? (Don't have a manual
> > > set yet.)
> > > 
>http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?prev=20&sr=1&format=nst&count=20&scope=bc&is_lic=Y&is_ful=Y&is_lp=Y
> > > 
> > > Thanks!  doc 
> > 
> >  You need to have Realaudio / Realplayer installed. 
> > Go to Netscape, plugins, and then to Real Audio.
> > Select downloads, and your OS (linux), you will then be
> > directed to "community supported" plugin
> > 
> > cheers,
> > 
> > Elton Woo ;-)
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Re: How To Extract A Pentium 4 CPU

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin McConnell

--- "Robert L. Cochran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I realize this is an *operating system* forum, but I
> suspect a lot of
> you work with hardware. I need to extract a Pentium
> 4, 2.8 Ghz CPU from
> one motherboard and install it on another. Do I need
> a special tool? Or
> can I just use forefinger and thumb?

It's probably wiser to use a chip puller, but I
usually just make sure I'm grounded (the most
important part) and then yank 'er right out.


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Re: Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?

2002-11-15 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On 15 Nov 2002, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:

> In RedHat 8 I visit this site and request the loop and get a blue puzzle
> piece and no looping video.  Suggested solution, please?
> http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmlb.shtml
>
> Thanks!  doc

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Re: OpenOffice

2002-11-15 Thread Dr. David M. Colburn
Thanks for the clarification!  Will unload OO and load SO6 tomorrow.

doc

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:49, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> Star office also contains a database which is not in openoffice
> 
> Dennis
> 
> On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 20:51, Keith Winston wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 20:04, Dr. David M. Colburn wrote:
> > > I purchased StarOffice 6.0 just prior to recently switching from SuSE 8
> > > to RH8. 
> > > 
> > > It was my understanding that Sun's investment in this commercial version
> > > of OO produced something better in a number of ways.
> > > 
> > > Is there any reason why I should prefer OO over SO6, apart from cost?
> > > 
> > > Just wondering before I delete OO and load SO6.
> > 
> > StarOffice 6 includes some additional fonts, templates (wizards) for
> > various types of documents that are not in OO, and has support from
> > Sun.  Those are the only differences I've been able to find.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Keith
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