Re: Pentax Macro/pix for the web question

[Mike Ignatiev]

For the web, any macro lens should do. Better yet, digicam.

What size are the diamonds? say, X inches. So it should be 10*X inches on the screen. 
A typical screen has circa 75 dpi, which means the diamond should be 750*X pixels. A 
1:4 macro will be 0.25*X on the film, and scan with 3000dpi will give exactly 0.25*X * 
3000 = 750*X pixels.  However, it'd probably be better to keep away from scanner 
resolution limits, so 1:2 or 1:1 macro lens should be a safe bet.

Mishka

>Can anyone help this customer:
>
><
>I have been on the internet for hours and I have no hair left!! I want to
>phoograph diamonds for a web site. They need to appear on the site abot 10 times
>real size. I bought a 3+ filter but this was a waste of time and money. I got
>myself a camera book (I am a photo novice) and it would appear the only way I
>am going to get quality macro images is with a macro lense. I have a Pentax
>MZ30 and can not afford anything like ё500 for a new Pentax Macro Lens. Being a
>novice the auto features of any lense are important. From the book I read.
>Taking Macro images of a diamond will require maximum depth of field so I need an
>apeture priority compatible lens (does this make sense?).
>
>Any help you can give would be wonderful and restore my faith in the internet.
>
>Thanks
>
>Hayley>>
>
>Post your replies here and I will forward to her (?). Since I know nothing
>about file sizes for the web.
>
>Kind regards
>
>Peter

Optii-clean

[Clive evans]

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Alan
Also stocked by speedgraphic in the UK who are happy to ship abroad.
www.speedgraphic.co.uk 
+44 8453305530
Fax +441420543544
Ask for their catalogue , very good!
Best
Clive
Antibes
France

OT BA offers for UK PDMLers

[Camdir]

>

Denver £209 anyone?

Peter

RE: OT BA offers for UK PDMLers

[tom]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> < London to the
> following locations:
>
> + Washington Dulles from £189
> + Abu Dhabi from £199
> + Denver from £209
> + San Diego from £209
> + Bermuda from £329
> + Mexico City from £349
>
> Fares are return from London and include all taxes, fees
> and charges.
>
> For travel periods and to book, visit
> http://www.ba.com/specialtime Wednesday
> 4 June only.>>
>
> Denver £209 anyone?
>

I'm 15 minutes from Dulles...come on down!

tv

RE: What do you do?

[Paul Eriksson]

Yes you did!


From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: What do you do? 
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 03:01:22 -0400
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Eriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Today, the "compensation" for the milk in the book incident
> came, a FA*
> 200mm from KEH.  I guess I can't complain anymore .
Did I call this or what?

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Re: Sensor cleaning - easy and fun to do

[Caveman]

I just change the sensor with a new fresh one after each shot, and keep 
the old ones as storage media for my photos.

cheers,
caveman ;-)
Cotty wrote:
I don't have DSLR, but I imagine the sensor was sealed behind a piece of 
glass which should be hard enough for gentle cleaning. Or am I wrong?


It is, but I would not dare actually touch it. The book says to remove
any brush on the end of the blower, and just use a bare blower to pump in
air. I wouldn't use compressed air from a can - they can shoot out all
sorts of crap sometimes - seen it with my own eyes.


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RE: New Skin

[Cotty]

>Does that mean when I show up at your doorstep, and the plan is to make it
>across the pond ere the end of the year, you will hide all the knives :-)

LOL. Only the ones capable of slicing through snakes ;-)




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RE: A few PUG thoughts

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Frank,

For me it was just timing.  I find that I enjoy taking pictures of people,
but in this town one has to go out of the way to find them.  And it does
surprise me when people comment on my people images since I feel that they
are lacking and I do not take many of them.  Sure I shoot at events, but a
crowd of people do not make a people shot.

So, I think the time constraints of the theme did it for me.  I had just
gotten off work, and short of going to the shopping centers you would not
see too many people around.  And they would not take to kindly to a
photographer in their midst.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:45 AM
--

--
-- Other than two images, the gallery is devoid of humanity!
-- At that, all
-- we have is Facit's self-portrait, and he's looking at a
-- computer screen,
-- and Bill's doggie class, and the humans seem completely disinterested
-- (in the camera at least) bystanders.  No interaction at all!
--
-- Why would this be?  The theme?  The time of the year? (are we more
-- reflective in the spring?).  Did the Synchronicity theme change our
-- collective mood?  I'm puzzled.
--
-- regards,
-- frank
--
-- --
-- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
-- pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
-- Oppenheimer

Re: pram battery?

[Cotty]

> My daughter has a Powerbook 1400CS that has become important as she
> needs a portable just to word process and take care of some documents
> out on the job.  It won't hold a date.  We bought a new battery for
> it a few months ago...Does anyone know where I can find out if it
> needs a pram battery and ,if so, what kind?

Losing time and date between shutdowns, and losing the contents of RAM
while sleep-swapping the main battery is a pretty classic symptom of a
hosed backup battery (also known as a PRAM battery).  For the Powerbook
1400, there is one kind (Apple part number 922-2429) and it requires a
major strip-down of the PowerBook to replace it, even though it is
visible (IIRC) in one of the expansion bays. Unless you are proficient in
taking apart delicate electronics, I suggest paying to have this done.
You will not have to look far for a company providing this service.

HTH




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Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...

[Leonard Paris]

If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the cost of lab 
prints.  Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6 printer.  
Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger.  I do all 
of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson.

Len
---

I concur.  On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would
cost in the $2-$3
range.  That is reasonable as a lab print would cost
about $6.50 each.
I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided
you don't have to
reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's
are iffy compared
to lab cost.
> Bruce
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RE: MX Batteries: MS76 vs. DL-1 (vs. ?)

[Leonard Paris]

The PDML is definitely alive and well.  Feign ignorance to post a question 
then argue with the people that offer answers.  Isn't that a form of 
trolling?

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Vs: Vs: Loading film in a Leica (was Pentax bashing)

[Raimo Korhonen]

Correct. If I had the cash I would like to buy it. It is a nice camera indeed. 
Recommended.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 03. kesäkuuta 2003 18:55
Aihe: Re: Vs: Loading film in a Leica (was Pentax bashing)


>I read somewhere that the CL is the easiest loading Leica ever!  Anyone wanna buy 
>one?  I know someone who's
>selling...  
>
>-frank
>
>Raimo Korhonen wrote:
>
>> Can be done, of course. And it is quite rewarding, too. But like I wrote earlier, 
>> my M6 has seen little use lately.
>> All the best!
>> Raimo
>> Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
>>
>> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
>> Lähettäjä: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Päivä: 03. kesäkuuta 2003 0:00
>> Aihe: Re: Loading film in a Leica (was Pentax bashing)
>>
>> T Rittenhouse wrote:
>> >
>> > Where did you hear that? No one I ever knew claimed loading film in a Leica
>> > was instinctive.
>>
>> I'd like to chime in here. When I bought a Leica screwmunt (IIIf RD),
>> the pessimists here said I'd be selling it after loading a half dozen
>> rolls or so. In fact I've found that loading does become quite easy with
>> practice -- one might say instinctive. I've now shot about a hundred
>> rolls with the screwmount Leica and have grown quite fond of it. It has
>> replaced the MX as my walk around camera. I did a 20 mile walk through
>> Paris last week and shot eight rolls, loading on the street each and
>> every time. No problem. I'll be posting some of the pics once I've
>> scanned a couple dozen.
>> Paul
>
>--
>"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it 
>is true." -J. Robert
>Oppenheimer
>
>

Re: *ist SLR now available in UK

[Nick Zentena]

On June 3, 2003 12:28 pm, Caveman wrote:
> Harold Owen wrote:
> > will test the camera tomorrow
>
> This is cruel.
>
> cheers,
> caveman

Shouldn't a cave man have a higher pain threshold-)))

Nick

RE: pram battery?

[Thomas Haller]

> "My daughter has a Powerbook 1400CS that...won't hold a date."
>
>> "Losing time and date between shutdowns, and losing the contents of RAM
>> while sleep-swapping the main battery is a pretty classic symptom of a
>> hosed backup battery (also known as a PRAM battery).  For the Powerbook
>> 1400, there is one kind (Apple part number 922-2429) and it requires a
>> major strip-down of the PowerBook to replace it, even though it is
>> visible (IIRC) in one of the expansion bays. Unless you are proficient in
>> taking apart delicate electronics, I suggest paying to have this done.
>> You will not have to look far for a company providing this service.
>>
What Cotty said, unless you are running OS X and having the "date reset"
problem! Are you by chance running a version of OS X earlier than X.2.6
(10.2.6)? Probably not, but another _possible_ cause...

Just trying to help!

- THaller

Re: Trust Adorama Condition as much as KEH?

[Jose R. Rodriguez]

Hi Thomas,

I think your gut feeling is correct...  KEH is more conservative than Adorama in my 
experience.  I ordered a SMC K 105mm f/2.8 in EXC+ condition a couple years ago and I 
felt they rated it properly.  Last year I ordered a Pentax LX in Demo condition and it 
was Mint- in appearance but the camera did need a CLA (sticky mirror, focus 
inaccurate, etc..)  They did eventually paid for the CLA.

Your assessment is accurate.  KEH is very conservative but Adorama is pretty good as 
well.  They do have a good return policy if you are not happy with your purchase.  I 
would not hesitate purchasing used items (especially lenses) in EXC or better 
condition from Adorama.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Jose R. Rodriguez

> 
> From: Thomas Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/06/03 Tue AM 12:21:22 CDT
> To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Trust Adorama Condition as much as KEH?
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> Do you all trust the Condition ratings at Adorama as much as you do the 
> ones at KEH?
> 
> I've only done "pig-in-a-poke" shopping at KEH and so far their 
> condition ratings seem conservative, the stuff is as good or better 
> than they said it was.
> 
> What about Adorama? Can you compare their "D" (Demo) rating to KEH's 
> "Like New Minus"?
> 
> I'm a bit suspicious of Adorama's ratings, as I see things like two 
> identical model lenses for the same price, but one is "D" rated with 
> caps, while the other is only rated "E" with no caps. Seems "odd" that 
> they would be the same price.
> 
> Anyone with recent Adorama experience? Comments? Opinions?
> 
> Thanks for listening!
> 
> - THaller
> 
> 

RE: Trust Adorama Condition as much as KEH?

[Thomas Haller]

Buenos, Jose!

> "I think your gut feeling is correct...  KEH is more
> conservative than Adorama in my experience.  I ordered
> a SMC K 105mm f/2.8 in EXC+ condition a couple years 
> ago and I felt they rated it properly.  Last year I 
> ordered a Pentax LX in Demo condition and it was Mint-
> in appearance but the camera did need a CLA (sticky 
> mirror, focus inaccurate, etc..)  They did eventually 
> paid for the CLA.
> 
> Your assessment is accurate.  KEH is very conservative
> but Adorama is pretty good as well.  They do have a good
> return policy if you are not happy with your purchase.  
> I would not hesitate purchasing used items (especially 
> lenses) in EXC or better condition from Adorama.
>
Thanks for the response! That business about "They did EVENTUALLY pay for
the CLA." (my emphasis) sounds a trifle ominous, but the rest sounded about
like I thought. I'll have to try ordering something and see how it goes, I
guess. I've also been using this US$25 "UPS Next Day Air Saver" shipping
from KEH and it has worked well coming across country, only one or two days
every time, and I'm usually ordering late in the East Coast evening. Having
shipments made to my work, where we receive tons of stuff everyday probably
helped too...

Thanks again for relating your experiences!

- THaller

Re: Vs: Loading film in a Leica (was Pentax bashing)

[Jim Apilado]

So is the Minolta CLE.

Jim A.

> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: http://www.urbancaravan.com/
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:49:52 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Vs: Loading film in a Leica (was Pentax bashing)
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:55:27 -0400
> 
> I read somewhere that the CL is the easiest loading Leica ever!  Anyone wanna
> buy one?  I know someone who's
> selling...  
> 
> -frank
> 
> Raimo Korhonen wrote:
> 
>> Can be done, of course. And it is quite rewarding, too. But like I wrote
>> earlier, my M6 has seen little use lately.
>> All the best!
>> Raimo
>> Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
>> 
>> -Alkuperäinen viesti-
>> Lähettäjä: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Päivä: 03. kesäkuuta 2003 0:00
>> Aihe: Re: Loading film in a Leica (was Pentax bashing)
>> 
>> T Rittenhouse wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where did you hear that? No one I ever knew claimed loading film in a Leica
>>> was instinctive.
>> 
>> I'd like to chime in here. When I bought a Leica screwmunt (IIIf RD),
>> the pessimists here said I'd be selling it after loading a half dozen
>> rolls or so. In fact I've found that loading does become quite easy with
>> practice -- one might say instinctive. I've now shot about a hundred
>> rolls with the screwmount Leica and have grown quite fond of it. It has
>> replaced the MX as my walk around camera. I did a 20 mile walk through
>> Paris last week and shot eight rolls, loading on the street each and
>> every time. No problem. I'll be posting some of the pics once I've
>> scanned a couple dozen.
>> Paul
> 
> --
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
> fears it is true." -J. Robert
> Oppenheimer
> 
> 

OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Christian Skofteland]

Film v digital: (tv, take note to what a Bethesda wedding photographer has to 
say about digital's ability to hold detail in the highlights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60430-2003May30.html

And memory:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60428-2003May30.html

christian

RE: 2 articles from the washington post

[tom]

> -Original Message-
> From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Film v digital: (tv, take note to what a Bethesda wedding
> photographer has to
> say about digital's ability to hold detail in the highlights.

Weird. One of my assistants works with him. He told her he was
switching from Hassie to Canon digital.

My experience has been that digital will hold shadow detail like film
will hold highlight detail. Instead of erring on the side of
overexposure, I err on the side of underexposure.

Obviously I try not to err too much. :)

Anyway, the point isn't that digital can't hold detail in the
highlights, it's that if you blow them they're gone.

tv

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

a.k.a. How to get a too-often-discussed thread restarted.

Pentax has never *consistently* made PJ-type 35mm bodies.
In the 60s almost everything was well-built, so a PJ pro could
use almost anything, and Pentax was in the fray.  Even then
their major market was the enthusiast.

In the 70s came the MX.  Low-priced for the quality.  Well-built,
but not like a Nikon or Canon F1/F-1/whatever.

In the 80s came the LX.  Very well-built, but orphaned.  No child.
Definitely PJ-grade, but under-appreciated and under-marketed.

In the 90s came the PZ-1/1p.  As with the previous two, introducing
some exceptional features and also well-built.  Not quite PJ-grade,
though some might argue this.  I mean it as compared to the F3HP or F4.
Also a piece of under-appreciated construction.

I'm staying away from the word "professional" because it means so
many different things.  PJ work is only a part of pro.  Even the
common, low-priced A-3000 saw a lot of "pro" work in technical,
embedded applications.  Like film recorders.

If one depends on a PJ-grade body for a living, Pentax is not the line
to choose.
If one wants a quality body with the outstanding character of the Limited
lens line, there's nothing else to compare.

What does "professional" to Pentax?  
Apparently three things:  Limited lenses, 645 series & 67 series.
This is what made Bruce's post yesterday so relevant.
He was talking about equally photography that's not PJ work.
Apparently three things:  Limited lenses, 645 series & 67 series.

The rest of Pentax, it seems, is for the enthusiast.

My 2c,

Collin


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Subject: Question on Pentax Lineup 

Hey everyone, 
I don't follow the future of Pentax too closely so maybe 
you could fill me in on some rumors. Will the *ist line be 
phasing out the Z/M line of cameras? Does Pentax plan on 
ever making a pro body again? I'm thinking about moving to a 
ZX-5n from a ZX-M in a few months and I'm just curious if the 
*ist will lower the price of the ZX-5n since they are so 
similar in features and price. Thanks for the gossip, time 
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Re: Optii-clean

[Alan Chan]

Thanks for the info Clive.  :-)  Harry was right. I checked 
www.speedgraphic.co.uk  once but they charged significantly more eventually 
if I ordered 6 packs. I was attracted to 7dayshop because of the price. 
Besides, 7dayshop has some cases which I liked. But ironically, those cases 
were Made in USA. But I reckon the shipping would be no more than the 
shipping from the US (at least US$18.8), and I have not been able to find 
those cases in Vancouver or in any US mail order houses so far.

regards,
Alan Chan
I think Alan is attracted by the price of Opti-clean at "7dayshop" as it
is on a special offer price of £7-99 as against the normal price of
£14-95 which is the price that Speedgraphic is retailing it.
As he wants six it would be quite a saving at "7dayshop", I must admit I
like Speedgraphic they are a good company and have bought from them in
the past and will be buying off them again shortly as I need some bits
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Re: pram battery?

[Cotty]

Apologies. Please ignore this thread.




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Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

[Alan Chan]

Pentax has never *consistently* made PJ-type 35mm bodies.
In the 60s almost everything was well-built, so a PJ pro could
use almost anything, and Pentax was in the fray.  Even then
their major market was the enthusiast.
Very true, and many Pentax fans have been constantly wishing for another 
professional camera after the LX. The way I see it, the LX was the only 
attempt which failed to beat Canon or Nikon in the PJ field. Pentax learnt 
their lesson and never wasted their resource on another 135 pro body. So I 
won't expect any from Pentax in the future either, or near future. SF-Xn, 
Z-1p & MZ-S are high end models, but not pro models. But of course, some 
might disagree with me.

In the 70s came the MX.  Low-priced for the quality.  Well-built,
but not like a Nikon or Canon F1/F-1/whatever.
Dented too easily. Hammered the MX, F-1 & F2 against each other andI bet the 
MX will die 1st. Okay, don't try this at home. It's for professional only.  
:-)

The rest of Pentax, it seems, is for the enthusiast.
I can live with that since I am no professional.  :-)

regards,
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Re: 2 articles from the washington post

[Christian Skofteland]

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 16:56, tom wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Film v digital: (tv, take note to what a Bethesda wedding
> > photographer has to
> > say about digital's ability to hold detail in the highlights.
>
> Weird. One of my assistants works with him. He told her he was
> switching from Hassie to Canon digital.
>

Just goes to show that you can't believe the media.

The other thing that bothered me about the first article was that they were 
talking about "average user" and digital P&S but interviewed so-called 
"professionals"

Christian

fashion boy

[tom]

Ok, all of a sudden I've become fashion boy.

The fashion show thing starts Thursday. I'll have at least one, and
probably 2, TFP shoots that day. Friday is the show, Thursday is
another show with a different theme, and a big party at one of the
trendier clubs here.

I ordered another AB head, the battery pack, and a load of gels,
diffusers and grids. I should have a 2nd 10D and a 70-200/2.8 IS by
Thursday, assuming someone has them in stock around here.

So there's that...then at my gig on Sunday, the caterer introduces me
to this lady:

http://www.ninamclemore.com/

She's getting married down here, is looking for a photog, the caterer
recommends me. Cool.

She calls me today...wants a headshot type promotional pic. Fine. Also
asks if I can do...what did she call it...the type of clothing shots
where the clothing is held up on a wire frame for catalog shots.

"Of course!"

A - anyone know what this is called? She had a name for it
B - Is this the sort of thing where a stylist sets it up and I shoot
it? I'm guessing I'd just have to set up a background, but maybe she
has something else in mind.


tv

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

[Mark Roberts]

Christopher Comer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I don't follow the future of Pentax too closely so maybe 
>you could fill me in on some rumors.  Will the *ist line be 
>phasing out the Z/M line of cameras? 

There will probably be entry-level *ists in the future to replace the
lower-priced Pentax cameras currently in the line. Eventually. The ZX-60
(MZ-60) and ZX-L (MZ-6) are going to be produced for at least 2 more
years.

>Does Pentax plan on ever making a pro body again? 

No one knows. Pentax isn't saying (although they *have* said they intend
to make a full-frame DSLR eventually and this may, by definition, have
to be a "pro" body).

>I'm thinking about moving to a ZX-5n from a ZX-M in a few months and I'm 
>just curious if the *ist will lower the price of the ZX-5n since they are so 
>similar in features and price.

The *ist replaces both the -5n and the -7. The -5n has been out of
production for some time now. They've been selling off what's in the
warehouses for a while and by now they've probably cleared out the
warehouses and are just selling what's left on the store shelves. If you
want one, buy it quick. The -7 is out of production. There are probably
a lot left in the warehouses so you needn't act as fast if you want one
of those.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Cruelty (re Re: *ist SLR now available in UK)

[Harold Owen]

> I've found the explanation and remedy for the LX sticky mirror problem. 
> The DIY fix involves a syringe, Q-tips and isopropyl alcohol. There's no 
>   camera disassembly needed. I will post the complete solution two weeks 
> after Harold tests his camera.
> 
> cheers,
> caveman

There is a strong possibility that you will have remedied the sticky mirror
problem before I even get to the end of the *ist manual! 

There appears to be a large number of camera settings to configure, the
eleven point focussing system seems to have a mind of its own when set
on 'auto', so this has been set to centre point focussing at the moment.

Harry


Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: *ist SLR now available in UK

[Harold Owen]

> And can you try with lens monut insulated (with tape) to simulate KA mount ?
> See
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/Photo/multizone.htm
> or
> http://www.robertstech.com/matrix.htm
> 
> Michel


When I get a chance will try what you have suggested Michel.

Those URLs that you posted were very good I particularly liked the
French website.

The rangefinder shown on one of the pages is interesting,  I purchased a
couple of rangefinders a few years ago to use with an old German 35mm
camera which did not possess an integral rangefinder.

It is amazing the number of young assistants in photo shops that did not
know what an accessory rangefinder was, they made me feel really ancient!


Harry



-- 
Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Sensor cleaning - easy and fun to do

[Alan Chan]

I wouldn't use compressed air from a can - they can shoot out all
sorts of crap sometimes - seen it with my own eyes.
Happened to me once.  Never used compressed air can again.  :-(

regards,
Alan Chan
_
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http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

leaving for a while

[Katrin]

Hello!
I'm unsubscribing because I'm going on holidays for a week to south 
tyrol... hope to come back with a lot of pictures and I hope I can 
learn a bit more about the optio s ^_^

bye Katrin
**

Desertrose
Chris' & Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it!
http://www.xjapan.de
*
>From now on I will try to live for you and for me.
I will live with love...with dreams...
and forever with tears..
**

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

[Caveman]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pentax has never *consistently* made PJ-type 35mm bodies.
See if I care.

Now seriously. Why would I.

cheers,
amateur caveman

Re: fashion boy

[Christian Skofteland]

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 17:35, tom wrote:
>but maybe she
> has something else in mind.
>
>
> tv

There's a dirty joke in here somewhere..

Christian

Re: fashion boy

[Bruce Dayton]

tom,

Congrats!  Hopefully, all will turn out well - seems to be a great
contact.  Wish I could help you with some advice, but this is
something I have never dealt with before.

keep us posted on how it all goes.


Bruce



Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 2:35:15 PM, you wrote:

t> Ok, all of a sudden I've become fashion boy.

t> The fashion show thing starts Thursday. I'll have at least one, and
t> probably 2, TFP shoots that day. Friday is the show, Thursday is
t> another show with a different theme, and a big party at one of the
t> trendier clubs here.

t> I ordered another AB head, the battery pack, and a load of gels,
t> diffusers and grids. I should have a 2nd 10D and a 70-200/2.8 IS by
t> Thursday, assuming someone has them in stock around here.

t> So there's that...then at my gig on Sunday, the caterer introduces me
t> to this lady:

t> http://www.ninamclemore.com/

t> She's getting married down here, is looking for a photog, the caterer
t> recommends me. Cool.

t> She calls me today...wants a headshot type promotional pic. Fine. Also
t> asks if I can do...what did she call it...the type of clothing shots
t> where the clothing is held up on a wire frame for catalog shots.

t> "Of course!"

t> A - anyone know what this is called? She had a name for it
t> B - Is this the sort of thing where a stylist sets it up and I shoot
t> it? I'm guessing I'd just have to set up a background, but maybe she
t> has something else in mind.


t> tv

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Caveman]

Christian Skofteland wrote:
Film v digital: (tv, take note to what a Bethesda wedding photographer has to 
say about digital's ability to hold detail in the highlights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60430-2003May30.html
"And digital has also caught up to film in terms of resolution; a 
digicam with 3 million pixels of resolution (megapixels) or more can 
produce pictures indistinguishable from film output"

Tell that to the MF/LF brotherhood. They even won't bother arguing. 
They'll just condescendently smile. Or maybe it was a typo and they were 
actually speaking of 30 Mpixels.

cheers,
caveman

Re: leaving for a while

[Thomas Stach]

Katrin schrieb:
> 
> Hello!
> I'm unsubscribing because I'm going on holidays for a week to south
> tyrol... hope to come back with a lot of pictures and I hope I can
> learn a bit more about the optio s ^_^
> 

Oh, South Tyrol ...

please say hello from me to Merano, Bolzano, Meran, Naturns where I've
spent half my childhood...!
:-)
Have Fun!

Thomas



> bye Katrin
> **
> 
> Desertrose
> Chris' & Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it!
> http://www.xjapan.de
> *
> >From now on I will try to live for you and for me.
> I will live with love...with dreams...
> and forever with tears..
> **
> 

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Caveman]

Christian Skofteland wrote:
And memory:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60428-2003May30.html
ROTFL:

"Olympus-toting shutterbugs, for example, can take advantage of a 
panorama feature on their cameras only if they use memory cards with the 
Olympus brand on them."

cheers,
caveman

Happy family

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

I took this photo this weekend, and scanned it earlier this evening:
  
www.web-options.com/Happy_family.jpg

(Grass monkeys / vervets (I think) at Woburn Safari Park).

While it's quite a nice photo, I'm not particularly happy with the
colours. I shot it on Kodak Royal Supra 200, and scanned it with
Vuescan using the Supra 400 setting because that seems like the
closest match. Has anybody else scanned this film with Vuescan? If so,
can you recommend a better film setting, please?

-- 
Thanks,
 Boboon

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

[Christopher Comer]

Sorry to bring up old topics but I do appreciate the 
responses.  The brief Pentax history was interesting and I 
had no idea the -5n was out of production.  That could be a 
tough one to track down in a few months since they seldom 
show up used.  It may sound irrelevant considering other 
concerns but the *ist just doesn't look *cool* to me.  I've 
got a few months before I compliment the zx-m with an 
autofocus body so that should be plenty of time to figure out 
the next camera dilemna.  Thanks guys...

-Chris

Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...

[Kenneth Waller]

I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so and
haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10 print
for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper costs.
I consider this a  bargain.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Len,
>
> I never found a cheap source for paper.  That was alway the major cost
> for me.  The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at
> the lab.  That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me.
>
> Bruce
>
> Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote:
>
> LP> If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the cost
of lab
> LP> prints.  Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6
printer.
> LP> Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger.  I
do all
> LP> of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson.
>
> LP> Len
> LP> ---
>
>
> >>I concur.  On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would
> >>cost in the $2-$3
> >>range.  That is reasonable as a lab print would cost
> >>about $6.50 each.
> >>I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided
> >>you don't have to
> >>reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's
> >>are iffy compared
> >>to lab cost.
> >>
> >> > Bruce

FS MZ-S & BG-10

[wendy beard]

Sorry Guys, it's not Friday. Don't want to wait until then 'cos I'm away 
for most of the weekend

Selling MZ-S plus BG-10, boxed and complete INCLUDING EYECUP!
US$650 inc N.American shipping, Xpresspost. or CDN$900
I also have a Tokina ATX-pro 28-70 2.6-2.8 I can be persuaded to part with 
at the same time if anyone is interested. No box, but original case.

cheers,
Wendy
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com

Re: Vs: Pentax bashing (was Re: another 31 Limited question)

[Rob Studdert]

On 3 Jun 2003 at 19:31, Raimo Korhonen wrote:

> Your mileage may vary.
> But it´s good to have it around when you need it.

Granted, but unfortunately I find it most useful is when manual focus options 
are less than adequate ie when using my E-10 in low light. Still, I rarely use 
my LTD lens in AF even on a "capable" AF body like the MZ-S. And my first 
experience of AF at a race circuit was an experience and a half (and not a good 
one).

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

[Daniel Liu]

Exactly. Pentax cameras do what i want without fuss, and without much 
of a hit to the wallet. Well, i take that back, maybe the old russian 
rangefinders can do the same thing for about $20, and they do have the 
cool CCCP label on them

On Tuesday, Jun 3, 2003, at 14:47 US/Pacific, Caveman wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pentax has never *consistently* made PJ-type 35mm bodies.
See if I care.

Now seriously. Why would I.

cheers,
amateur caveman

Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...

[Bruce Dayton]

Kenneth,

8X10's are cheaper than the lab.  It is 4X6 paper that is the problem.
I put ink cost around around 20-30 cents.  To keep under the 50 cent
threshhold of lab cost on 4X6 reprint, that means the paper needs to
be 20 cents or less.  About the cheapest I have found for quality
paper is 30 cents sheet in quantity.  It also seems like the
borderless printing uses more ink than I would expect.

Anyway, I have found that as long as you don't have to reprint, 8X10's
are about half last cost but 4X6 are as much or more than the lab.


Bruce



Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 3:29:13 PM, you wrote:

KW> I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so and
KW> haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10 print
KW> for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper costs.
KW> I consider this a  bargain.

KW> Kenneth Waller

KW> - Original Message -
KW> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> Len,
>>
>> I never found a cheap source for paper.  That was alway the major cost
>> for me.  The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at
>> the lab.  That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> LP> If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the cost
KW> of lab
>> LP> prints.  Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6
KW> printer.
>> LP> Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger.  I
KW> do all
>> LP> of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson.
>>
>> LP> Len
>> LP> ---
>>
>>
>> >>I concur.  On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would
>> >>cost in the $2-$3
>> >>range.  That is reasonable as a lab print would cost
>> >>about $6.50 each.
>> >>I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided
>> >>you don't have to
>> >>reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's
>> >>are iffy compared
>> >>to lab cost.
>> >>
>> >> > Bruce

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Rob Studdert]

On 3 Jun 2003 at 16:28, Christian Skofteland wrote:

> Film v digital: (tv, take note to what a Bethesda wedding photographer has to
> say about digital's ability to hold detail in the highlights.
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60430-2003May30.html

The other interesting quote was:

"Philip Brookman, the Corcoran Gallery of Art's senior curator for photography 
and media arts, has his own complaint with the output of digital cameras. 'I 
think that digital images have a flatness to them, and you can see the 
difference if you're looking for it,' he said."

This sounds like nonsense. I believe that apart from the occasional instances 
of excessive sharpening the digital look may simply be a function of contrast 
manipulation. If a digital image has a similar response and gamma to film (or 
has a film gamma transformation applied) then no one should be able to tell the 
difference.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Question on Pentax Lineup

[Bruce Rubenstein]

Pentax will probably phase out the ZX line. No one knows when. Stocks of 
the ZX-5n will probably be run down by the time it is announced. There 
is no way of knowing how long you would have to wait before the price 
dropped, assuming it ever does.
Companies that have always built, what are commonly understood to be pro 
bodies, (as opposed to defensive Pentax user's mumbo-jumbo) may very 
well never come out with new film pro SLRs again. The last company, 
without a large pro following, to do this was Minolta with the Maxxum 9, 
and that had all the sales success of the Edsel. Draw your own conclusions.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey everyone,
   I don't follow the future of Pentax too closely so maybe 
you could fill me in on some rumors.  Will the *ist line be 
phasing out the Z/M line of cameras?  Does Pentax plan on 
ever making a pro body again?  I'm thinking about moving to a 
ZX-5n from a ZX-M in a few months and I'm just curious if the 
*ist will lower the price of the ZX-5n since they are so 
similar in features and price.  Thanks for the gossip, time 
to sit back and see what happens...

-Chris

 

Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...

[Kenneth Waller]

Bruce,
When I was printing 4X6's, I ran the numbers and was able to get 4X6's off
my Epson Stylus Photo -97 vintage- at an ink cost of $0.30/print and 4X6
borderles photopaper @ around $0.25/sheet.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...


> Kenneth,
>
> 8X10's are cheaper than the lab.  It is 4X6 paper that is the problem.
> I put ink cost around 20-30 cents.  To keep under the 50 cent
> threshhold of lab cost on 4X6 reprint, that means the paper needs to
> be 20 cents or less.  About the cheapest I have found for quality
> paper is 30 cents sheet in quantity.  It also seems like the
> borderless printing uses more ink than I would expect.
>
> Anyway, I have found that as long as you don't have to reprint, 8X10's
> are about half last cost but 4X6 are as much or more than the lab.
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 3:29:13 PM, you wrote:
>
> KW> I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so
and
> KW> haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10
print
> KW> for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper
costs.
> KW> I consider this a  bargain.
>
> KW> Kenneth Waller
>
> KW> - Original Message -
> KW> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> Len,
> >>
> >> I never found a cheap source for paper.  That was alway the major cost
> >> for me.  The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at
> >> the lab.  That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >> Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> LP> If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the
cost
> KW> of lab
> >> LP> prints.  Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6
> KW> printer.
> >> LP> Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger.
I
> KW> do all
> >> LP> of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson.
> >>
> >> LP> Len
> >> LP> ---
> >>
> >>
> >> >>I concur.  On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would
> >> >>cost in the $2-$3
> >> >>range.  That is reasonable as a lab print would cost
> >> >>about $6.50 each.
> >> >>I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided
> >> >>you don't have to
> >> >>reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's
> >> >>are iffy compared
> >> >>to lab cost.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Bruce
>
>
>

Re: Cruelty (re Re: *ist SLR now available in UK)

[Bruce Rubenstein]

My, very satisfactory, solution to LX problems was solved with ebay.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've found the explanation and remedy for the LX sticky mirror 
problem. The DIY fix involves a syringe, Q-tips and isopropyl alcohol. 
There's no  camera disassembly needed. I will post the complete 
solution two weeks after Harold tests his camera.

RE: Happy family

[J. C. O'Connell]

Why not just adjust the color balance manually in photoshop?
JCO

> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Happy family
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I took this photo this weekend, and scanned it earlier this evening:
>   
> www.web-options.com/Happy_family.jpg
> 
> (Grass monkeys / vervets (I think) at Woburn Safari Park).
> 
> While it's quite a nice photo, I'm not particularly happy with the
> colours. I shot it on Kodak Royal Supra 200, and scanned it with
> Vuescan using the Supra 400 setting because that seems like the
> closest match. Has anybody else scanned this film with Vuescan? If so,
> can you recommend a better film setting, please?
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
>  Boboon
> 

RE: OT - digital darkroom - printing...

[Len Paris]

My Epson is a 2200.  I haven't set out to actually get an accurate cost
figure for 8.5 x 11 prints yet but it does seem to cost less to print
than my Epson 1200.  I use mostly Epson Premium Luster photo paper, with
some enhanced matte and some of their watercolor paper now and then.

Len
---

> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...
> 
> 
> I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 
> months or so and haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it 
> appears I can do an 8X10 print for around a $1.00/print ink 
> costs and around $0.80/print photo paper costs. I consider 
> this a  bargain.
> 
> Kenneth Waller

Grandfather Mountain Report (long)

[Mark Roberts]

Well, yesterday I got home from North Carolina and another fine
Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. Bill Owens, listmeister
Doug Brewer, and I were the only PDML’ers to make it this year. Despite
the highly variable weather it was another great outing.

I drove down on Thursday and spent the night at my friend’s vacation
cabin in Ashe County, about 50 miles from GFM. The drive from Pittsburgh
took only six and a half hours, thanks to a considerably quicker route I
found. I was able to get settled in by 5:30 and relax for the evening. 

I spent Friday morning scouting around for locations for a future
project I want to shoot in the area, then drove to GFM on the Blue Ridge
Parkway at an unusual (for me) leisurely pace. It was really wonderful
to *not* have deadlines and tasks looming ahead of me for a change!

I reached the Mountain around 10:30 on Friday morning and checked in at
the main office. Really nice people at this place. Definitely part of
the charm. I notified them I planned on camping on the ridge for the
night so they wouldn’t have the rangers sending out a search party for
me! 

Found Bill Owens’ pop-up camper in the campground but no sign of Bill or
his wife, so I went down to visit a privileged friend who actually has a
cabin on the property. Around lunchtime, people started to show up,
including Steve Tinetti, an *official* customer service rep from Pentax
Colorado! He brought all kinds of nice toys with him; big lenses, macro
lenses (FA 200/4.0) and a new (film) *ist. Apparently we missed getting
a digital *ist-D by only a week. The first two had arrived in Colorado
only a week before GFM and were still being used for getting brochure
shots and, doubtless, fondling by Colorado staff. If they’d come in
*two* weeks before, one of them would probably have made it to
Grandfather. Alas, things didn’t work out that way :( The film *ist, by
the way, seems like a very cool camera. The AF is great, particularly
the focus point selection.

A group of us went to get some photos of the animals at the nature
center half way up the mountain. Thanks to Pentax, we had a 300/2.8 and
a 600/4.0 with which to frighten children. With all this of Big Glass
around, I armed myself with my 15mm f3.5, just to be deliberately
contrary!

On Friday evening I loaded up my climbing pack with tent, sleeping bag,
some food and a couple of litres of water, one camera body (MZ-S) and
three lenses (Pentax A-20/2.8, Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8 and Vivitar 70-210
Series 1) and a small tripod.  I’d been concerned about carrying this
load, but I was pleased to find it much lighter than the all-camera-gear
load I usually have in my Lowe Nature Trekker AW! Then Nico Reinbold,
another GFM regular, drove me to the uppermost part of the Grandfather
Mountain road and I set off along the trail.

The trail on the upper part of the mountain is pretty tough, having many
sections that are only traversable without ropes and harnesses because
they have ladders and cables permanently bolted to the mountain. I was
pleasantly surprised to find the going easier than I remembered it from
last year. A year ago I was struggling with a torn tibialis posterior
tendon in my left leg. This year I was fully healthy and, despite my
having just done a marathon a week previously, this made a tremendous
difference. (Well, duh.) 

I reached Attic Window Peak (about 5950 ft altitude) around 5:45 p.m.
and started looking for the campsite. I discovered they had built a
platform for tents so I’d be off the ground, a very good thing
considering the rain that had been forecast. The location was also
fairly well sheltered considering how high up on the mountain it was.
After setting up camp I climbed to the top of the peak (only about 50
meters away) and spent an hour or so getting some spectacular (I hope)
sunset shots. It was a bit scary at times because it’s quite exposed up
there and the wind was pretty aggressive. The 70-210 proved almost
useless because the small tripod I’d brought couldn’t hold it steady
enough in the wind and long shutter speeds were necessary in the fading
light. I’m hoping for good things from the 20mm and 28-70 shots, though.

The wind picked up even more through the night. I got up in total
darkness at 5:00 on Saturday morning, dressed and found my way back up
to the top of the peak by flashlight. I could see flashes of lightning
in the distance on the western horizon - where the wind was coming from
at around 60-70 mph. Sunrise photography was clearly going to be out of
the question. I hustled back to my tent and the storm arrived around
6:00. If it hadn’t be weighted down my me and my gear, the tent would
have blown right off the mountain, even though the campsite wasn’t very
exposed. There were plenty of very bright lightning flashes and
subsequent deafening booms of thunder, but I don’t think there were any
lightning strikes on the mountain. By 7:30, the worst of the storm - the
thunder and lightning - had passed by, but it se

RE: Happy family

[Rob Studdert]

On 3 Jun 2003 at 19:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> Why not just adjust the color balance manually in photoshop?
> JCO

Yeah Bob, why not just use a film that's on the list.

Sorry couldn't resist. I've no experience with the Kodak Royal Supra 200, why 
not ask Ed H what he needs to add the film profile?

BTW That grass sure is gren. I couldn't get it looking good without a lot 
of work.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: HELP Super Program Screw needed !

[Ryan Charron]

Hello Everybody /Anybody,

I need some help here.
A screw must have gotten loose on my Super Program and
I lost it. 
So I have a Super Program with a screw missing (MIA)
under the camera, right in the center of the winder
advance control area. (where my MEII winder fits in to
advance the film) 
Without it, light gets to the film when I'm not using
my winder.
I found a screw that fits but the head is too large
and my winder won't work with it there.

Does anyone have a Super Program hanging around for
parts? I'll pay you for it. How about $5 US for a 
tiny screw?

Sincerely,
Ryan

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Re: Pentax bashing (was Re: another 31 Limited question)

[Rob Studdert]

On 3 Jun 2003 at 9:14, Bob Walkden wrote:

> My M3 has the old-style loading where you have to take the spool out,
> whereas my M4-2 has the new-style loading. The M3 is really quite slow
> to load. The M4 loading system seems to be as good as any others that
> I know, though. The Pentax magic needle system has always been quite
> good for me, but is no better than the M4, and the M4 is probably
> actually better than the Contax RX loading system. 

Yeah, I agree, I should have been more specific, my experience is with M4 
through to M6TTL bodies. Even though it's good I don't think that the magic 
needle system is as robust or sure as the M4-6 loading system. Andrew N has a 
good no fuss M4-7 film loading procedure at his site: 
http://www.nemeng.com/leica/000b.shtml

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Report (long)

[Keith Whaley]

Thanks for a fine report, Mark... You make me sad I wasn't there, which
is the whole idea, I think...isn't it...
I look forward to some photos to view!

keith whaley

Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> Well, yesterday I got home from North Carolina and another fine
> Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. Bill Owens, listmeister
> Doug Brewer, and I were the only PDML’ers to make it this year. Despite
> the highly variable weather it was another great outing.
> 
> I drove down on Thursday and spent the night at my friend’s vacation
> cabin in Ashe County, about 50 miles from GFM. The drive from Pittsburgh
> took only six and a half hours, thanks to a considerably quicker route I
> found. I was able to get settled in by 5:30 and relax for the evening.
> 
> I spent Friday morning scouting around for locations for a future
> project I want to shoot in the area, then drove to GFM on the Blue Ridge
> Parkway at an unusual (for me) leisurely pace. It was really wonderful
> to *not* have deadlines and tasks looming ahead of me for a change!
> 
> I reached the Mountain around 10:30 on Friday morning and checked in at
> the main office. Really nice people at this place. Definitely part of
> the charm. I notified them I planned on camping on the ridge for the
> night so they wouldn’t have the rangers sending out a search party for
> me!
> 
> Found Bill Owens’ pop-up camper in the campground but no sign of Bill or
> his wife, so I went down to visit a privileged friend who actually has a
> cabin on the property. Around lunchtime, people started to show up,
> including Steve Tinetti, an *official* customer service rep from Pentax
> Colorado! He brought all kinds of nice toys with him; big lenses, macro
> lenses (FA 200/4.0) and a new (film) *ist. Apparently we missed getting
> a digital *ist-D by only a week. The first two had arrived in Colorado
> only a week before GFM and were still being used for getting brochure
> shots and, doubtless, fondling by Colorado staff. If they’d come in
> *two* weeks before, one of them would probably have made it to
> Grandfather. Alas, things didn’t work out that way :( The film *ist, by
> the way, seems like a very cool camera. The AF is great, particularly
> the focus point selection.
> 
> A group of us went to get some photos of the animals at the nature
> center half way up the mountain. Thanks to Pentax, we had a 300/2.8 and
> a 600/4.0 with which to frighten children. With all this of Big Glass
> around, I armed myself with my 15mm f3.5, just to be deliberately
> contrary!
> 
> On Friday evening I loaded up my climbing pack with tent, sleeping bag,
> some food and a couple of litres of water, one camera body (MZ-S) and
> three lenses (Pentax A-20/2.8, Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8 and Vivitar 70-210
> Series 1) and a small tripod.  I’d been concerned about carrying this
> load, but I was pleased to find it much lighter than the all-camera-gear
> load I usually have in my Lowe Nature Trekker AW! Then Nico Reinbold,
> another GFM regular, drove me to the uppermost part of the Grandfather
> Mountain road and I set off along the trail.
> 
> The trail on the upper part of the mountain is pretty tough, having many
> sections that are only traversable without ropes and harnesses because
> they have ladders and cables permanently bolted to the mountain. I was
> pleasantly surprised to find the going easier than I remembered it from
> last year. A year ago I was struggling with a torn tibialis posterior
> tendon in my left leg. This year I was fully healthy and, despite my
> having just done a marathon a week previously, this made a tremendous
> difference. (Well, duh.)
> 
> I reached Attic Window Peak (about 5950 ft altitude) around 5:45 p.m.
> and started looking for the campsite. I discovered they had built a
> platform for tents so I’d be off the ground, a very good thing
> considering the rain that had been forecast. The location was also
> fairly well sheltered considering how high up on the mountain it was.
> After setting up camp I climbed to the top of the peak (only about 50
> meters away) and spent an hour or so getting some spectacular (I hope)
> sunset shots. It was a bit scary at times because it’s quite exposed up
> there and the wind was pretty aggressive. The 70-210 proved almost
> useless because the small tripod I’d brought couldn’t hold it steady
> enough in the wind and long shutter speeds were necessary in the fading
> light. I’m hoping for good things from the 20mm and 28-70 shots, though.
> 
> The wind picked up even more through the night. I got up in total
> darkness at 5:00 on Saturday morning, dressed and found my way back up
> to the top of the peak by flashlight. I could see flashes of lightning
> in the distance on the western horizon - where the wind was coming from
> at around 60-70 mph. Sunrise photography was clearly going to be out of
> the question. I hustled back to my tent and the storm arrived around
> 6:00. If it hadn’t be weighted down my me and my gear,

FS: things

[collinb]

2 bulk film loaders, not in perfect condition, but usable.  Need a cleaning.
  $5 each
Spotmatic body for parts.
  $5
Vivitar 285 flash.  Works.  Sometimes you have to wiggle the battery holder 
to make good contact.
  $40

More will come as I get through the basement.

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Nick Zentena]

On June 3, 2003 07:12 pm, Rob Studdert wrote:
> On 3 Jun 2003 at 16:28, Christian Skofteland wrote:
> > Film v digital: (tv, take note to what a Bethesda wedding photographer
> > has to say about digital's ability to hold detail in the highlights.
> >
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60430-2003May30.html
>
> The other interesting quote was:
>
> "Philip Brookman, the Corcoran Gallery of Art's senior curator for
> photography and media arts, has his own complaint with the output of
> digital cameras. 'I think that digital images have a flatness to them, and
> you can see the difference if you're looking for it,' he said."
>
> This sounds like nonsense. I believe that apart from the occasional
> instances of excessive sharpening the digital look may simply be a function
> of contrast manipulation. If a digital image has a similar response and
> gamma to film (or has a film gamma transformation applied) then no one
> should be able to tell the difference.


Why do you think that? Film and digital are different. Even different films 
look different. Or different B&W films in different developers. Why should 
digital look like film? I'm not sure why you'd want it to. If you want film 
look use film. If you want digital look  use digital. Isn't that the best of 
worlds? Two options?

Nick

Re: HELP Super Program Screw needed !

[Rfsindg]

Ryan,
Drop by your local camera repair shop.  They will have an appropriate 
replacement.  (If you live on the frozen tundra somewhere without a camera shop, drop 
me a line privately and I'll see what I can scrounge up.)
Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I need some help here.
>  A screw must have gotten loose on my Super Program and
>  I lost it. 
>  So I have a Super Program with a screw missing (MIA)
>  under the camera, right in the center of the winder
>  advance control area. (where my MEII winder fits in to
>  advance the film) 
>  Without it, light gets to the film when I'm not using
>  my winder.
>  I found a screw that fits but the head is too large
>  and my winder won't work with it there.
>  
>  Does anyone have a Super Program hanging around for
>  parts? I'll pay you for it. How about $5 US for a 
>  tiny screw?
>  

Some GFM photos

[Bill Owens]

Processed the GFM film today and thought I'd share a few of them with you.
All on Fuji Acros film shot in my MZ-S.

http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?Page=1

Bill

Re: HELP Super Program Screw needed !

[T Rittenhouse]

Try a hobby shop where they cater to the model RR crowd. They usually have
all kinds of tiny screws.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Charron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: HELP Super Program Screw needed !


> Hello Everybody /Anybody,
>
> I need some help here.
> A screw must have gotten loose on my Super Program and
> I lost it.
> So I have a Super Program with a screw missing (MIA)
> under the camera, right in the center of the winder
> advance control area. (where my MEII winder fits in to
> advance the film)
> Without it, light gets to the film when I'm not using
> my winder.
> I found a screw that fits but the head is too large
> and my winder won't work with it there.
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
> http://calendar.yahoo.com
>

Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...

[Bruce Dayton]

Kenneth,

Same ballpark.  But I can get the lab to do it for $0.49 each.  That
means the lab is cheaper by $0.06 per print.


Bruce



Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 4:18:15 PM, you wrote:

KW> Bruce,
KW> When I was printing 4X6's, I ran the numbers and was able to get 4X6's off
KW> my Epson Stylus Photo -97 vintage- at an ink cost of $0.30/print and 4X6
KW> borderles photopaper @ around $0.25/sheet.

KW> Kenneth Waller

KW> - Original Message -
KW> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
KW> To: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
KW> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:04 PM
KW> Subject: Re: OT - digital darkroom - printing...


>> Kenneth,
>>
>> 8X10's are cheaper than the lab.  It is 4X6 paper that is the problem.
>> I put ink cost around 20-30 cents.  To keep under the 50 cent
>> threshhold of lab cost on 4X6 reprint, that means the paper needs to
>> be 20 cents or less.  About the cheapest I have found for quality
>> paper is 30 cents sheet in quantity.  It also seems like the
>> borderless printing uses more ink than I would expect.
>>
>> Anyway, I have found that as long as you don't have to reprint, 8X10's
>> are about half last cost but 4X6 are as much or more than the lab.
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>> Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 3:29:13 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> KW> I have an Epson 2000P. I've been printing with it for 6 months or so
KW> and
>> KW> haven't kept a close tab on the costs but it appears I can do an 8X10
KW> print
>> KW> for around a $1.00/print ink costs and around $0.80/print photo paper
KW> costs.
>> KW> I consider this a  bargain.
>>
>> KW> Kenneth Waller
>>
>> KW> - Original Message -
>> KW> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> >> Len,
>> >>
>> >> I never found a cheap source for paper.  That was alway the major cost
>> >> for me.  The quality of paper needs to be on par with what I get at
>> >> the lab.  That is what drove up the cost of the prints for me.
>> >>
>> >> Bruce
>> >>
>> >> Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> LP> If you use the right printer for 4 x 6 prints, you can beat the
KW> cost
>> KW> of lab
>> >> LP> prints.  Try the HP Photosmart 100, 130, or the most current 4 x 6
>> KW> printer.
>> >> LP> Great 4 x 6 prints but, remember, it won't print anything larger.
KW> I
>> KW> do all
>> >> LP> of my 4 x 6 prints on it and do the big prints on the Epson.
>> >>
>> >> LP> Len
>> >> LP> ---
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >>I concur.  On my Canon, HP, and Epsons, 8X10's would
>> >> >>cost in the $2-$3
>> >> >>range.  That is reasonable as a lab print would cost
>> >> >>about $6.50 each.
>> >> >>I found that 8X10's were cost effective (provided
>> >> >>you don't have to
>> >> >>reprint - color problems, lightness, etc) but 4X6's
>> >> >>are iffy compared
>> >> >>to lab cost.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Bruce
>>
>>
>>

RE: Trust Adorama Condition as much as KEH?

[Jose R. Rodriguez]

Thomas,

Let's just say it took a couple of e-mails and phone calls to settle the
issue.  Nonetheless, I now have a like new LX that works perfectly.

I would say it turned out OK... ; - )

Regards,

Jose R. Rodriguez

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Haller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:39 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Trust Adorama Condition as much as KEH?

That business about "They did EVENTUALLY pay for
the CLA." (my emphasis) sounds a trifle ominous, but the rest sounded about
like I thought

Re: HELP Super Program Screw needed !

[James Fellows]

I have one.  I have a parts body to keep my other two alive. Send me your
address.  I will send it for free.

Jim Fellows
- Original Message - 
From: "Ryan Charron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: HELP Super Program Screw needed !


> Hello Everybody /Anybody,
>
> I need some help here.
> A screw must have gotten loose on my Super Program and
> I lost it.
> So I have a Super Program with a screw missing (MIA)
> under the camera, right in the center of the winder
> advance control area. (where my MEII winder fits in to
> advance the film)
> Without it, light gets to the film when I'm not using
> my winder.
> I found a screw that fits but the head is too large
> and my winder won't work with it there.
>
> Does anyone have a Super Program hanging around for
> parts? I'll pay you for it. How about $5 US for a
> tiny screw?
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan
>
> __
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> Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
> http://calendar.yahoo.com
>
>

Re: leaving for a while

[Kathleen]

Have a great time.  Hope you'll share your photos with us.
Kathy L.
- Original Message - 
From: "Katrin " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: leaving for a while


> Hello!
> I'm unsubscribing because I'm going on holidays for a week to south 
> tyrol... hope to come back with a lot of pictures and I hope I can 
> learn a bit more about the optio s ^_^
> 
> bye Katrin
> **
> 
> Desertrose
> Chris' & Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it!
> http://www.xjapan.de
> *
> >From now on I will try to live for you and for me.
> I will live with love...with dreams...
> and forever with tears..
> **
> 
> 
> 

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Jun 2003 at 0:54, Caveman wrote:

> Not necessarily. I can produce some images with high global contrast 
> that still look flat because of low local contrast, either in luminance, 
> or in color discrimination. I don't say that this actually happens with 
> digicams, I just say that this is possible.

Sure, but it's hardly only a problem of the digital domain :-)

> You can obviously do that, but you'll need a hell of a precise, with 
> tons of bits and high dynamic range DAC. The old analogic tech was 
> rather nonlinear - which means that in certain portions of the response 
> curve, you had better discrimination of levels than in others. Now if 
> you come with linear + DAC, the combo should be at least as good as the 
> nonlinear mic in its most sensitive part of the curve.

DACs are now offering specifications beyond the realities of analogue support 
circuitry and if you want to read up about a nice mic do a search on the MKH-
800 (digicams aren't expensive).

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

need help to locate new parts for Pentax lens

[Alan Chan]

Hi everyone,

It's me seeking for help again.  :-)  This time I am looking for some parts 
for my brand new FA31/1.8. Yep, I said brand new. Since we don't have part 
here in Canada, and I wish to fix it fast (I have already located the 
problem), I need you guys to locate the parts for me if possible. The parts 
that I needed is the 'A' button on the aperture ring. The 'A' button 
assembly actually includes the button itself, and the spring & the pin which 
are put inside the button. Unfortunately, I don't have the parts numbers. 
Also, I am looking for a brand new set of mounting screws (5 pieces). Those 
for FA*200/2.8 or FA*300/4.5 are preferred because they are longer. Paypent 
will be made by US cash or  PayPal.

regards,
Alan Chan
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Re: need help to locate new parts for Pentax lens

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Jun 2003 at 2:36, Alan Chan wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> It's me seeking for help again.  :-)  This time I am looking for some parts for
> my brand new FA31/1.8. Yep, I said brand new. Since we don't have part here in
> Canada, and I wish to fix it fast (I have already located the problem), I need
> you guys to locate the parts for me if possible. The parts that I needed is the
> 'A' button on the aperture ring. The 'A' button assembly actually includes the
> button itself, and the spring & the pin which are put inside the button.

Alan,

I can't help unfortunately but on behalf of other 31LTD owners can I ask why it 
needs to be replaced?

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

*ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Harold Owen]

I have been trying the *ist this morning with a couple of K-mount lenses
with the following results:-

Firstly custom function 17 has to be set to 2 to enable the shutter
release.

The K-mount lenses only function with the camera when it is either set
on AV mode or Manual mode.

On AV mode the camera shutter speed seems to relate to the maximum
aperture of the lens in use irrespective of what aperture you have
selected on the lens itself,

Therefore although you know what your aperture is you have no idea what
the corresponding shutter speed is going to be, I tried using the depth
of field preview to see if this would enable me to gauge the shutter
speed but depth of field preview does not work in AV mode with a K-mount
lens.

Hopefully when the shutter release is pressed an appropriate speed is
selected by the camera, will have to see what the colour negs look like!

Manual mode appears to be the only worthwhile mode with the K-mount
lenses, although you will need a hand-held meter as the integral one
does not function with the K-mount lenses, although the depth of field
preview does.

I found it easier to take a reading with a Weston meter and transfer the
shutter speed and aperture readings to the camera and lens, after
setting the aperture on the lens it is just a case of using the dial on
the camera to set the shutter speed.

I have been thinking of buying a modern hand-held meter for a while so
now might be the ideal time to purchase one, any recommendations for a
reasonably priced incident type meter?

Harry

-- 
Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Jun 2003 at 10:45, Harold Owen wrote:

> I have been thinking of buying a modern hand-held meter for a while so
> now might be the ideal time to purchase one, any recommendations for a
> reasonably priced incident type meter?

Hi Harry,

Your *ist report is interesting. We did have a little conversation last week 
about meters and two good options are the Sekonic L308BII and Gossen Gossen 
Luna Pro digital. If you are prepared to buy second hand either can be found on 
eBay for around US$130

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Grandfather Mountain Report (long)

[Cotty]

Great report Mark, thanks for taking the time.

>All in all it was a terrific, if tiring, weekend. Hoping for a bigger
>PDML turnout next year. Start making plans now (this year's program sold
>out weeks in advance).

You betcha. I'll be booking in plenty of time. I'm 100% for 2004.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Alin Flaider]

  So DOF preview works in manual mode but not in Av mode. Conversely,
  the camera meters in Av but it declines to do so in manual.
  What a mess! Way to go, Pentax... :o<
  
  Servus,   Alin

Harold wrote:

HO> Therefore although you know what your aperture is you have no idea what
HO> the corresponding shutter speed is going to be, I tried using the depth
HO> of field preview to see if this would enable me to gauge the shutter
HO> speed but depth of field preview does not work in AV mode with a K-mount
HO> lens.

HO> Hopefully when the shutter release is pressed an appropriate speed is
HO> selected by the camera, will have to see what the colour negs look like!

HO> Manual mode appears to be the only worthwhile mode with the K-mount
HO> lenses, although you will need a hand-held meter as the integral one
HO> does not function with the K-mount lenses, although the depth of field
HO> preview does.

HO> I found it easier to take a reading with a Weston meter and transfer the
HO> shutter speed and aperture readings to the camera and lens, after
HO> setting the aperture on the lens it is just a case of using the dial on
HO> the camera to set the shutter speed.

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Nick Zentena]

On June 3, 2003 11:53 pm, Rob Studdert wrote:

>
> A good image shouldn't look like a film or digital it should stand on it's

Why not? All the people doing alt processes must want the look.

> own, I would guess that was the original gist of the comment. Also the
> reference was to "flatness" which I read as subdued contrast/gamma. Under
> the visual grain threshold it is hard if not impossible to determine a good
> digital or film print these days and in any case the biggest virtue of
> digital imaging processes is their inherent and relative neutrality. Given
> that you can apply filters to digital images to make of them anything that
> you want after the fact.


How big is a pixel? How big is a grain? Isn't digital interpolated? Won't it 
always be? Digital won't over come that.

Nick

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Artur Ledóchowski]

- Original Message -
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses


>   So DOF preview works in manual mode but not in Av mode. Conversely,
>   the camera meters in Av but it declines to do so in manual.
>   What a mess! Way to go, Pentax... :o<

There's more - according to the Harold's report the camera meters in Av but
takes only the widest aperture of a lens into account - it seems to me to be
something like in the MZ-50. Which means that it should work with the m42
lenses via the K-mount adapter. Working with the plain K-mount lenses
stopped down in any way requires an apropriate exposure compensation to be
applied.
If my above statement is true, than it's not THAT bad. Shame, however, that
the DOFp doesn't work in the Av mode.
Buying an external meter only to be able to work with the plain K-mount
lenses in the M mode of the *ist makes no sense to me. The camera has a new,
advanced, 16-segment matrix and it's IMHO better to get rid of such lenses
and get the KA-mount ones to be able to use it.
One thing I'm sure is that the *ist is not the camera for me - I need full
backward compatibility...
Regards
Artur

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Mark Roberts]

"Mike Ignatiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I think it's more complex than "a function of contrast manipulation", 
>but still, I don't see why digital cannot replicate exactly (er... 
>I mean, "with any arbitrary high degree of precision") *any* analog 
>effect (with a little bit of effort). All this "glow", "dimensionality",
>etc. 

I think it's most likely to be just part of the learning curve involved
in getting used to a new medium. When people who have been doing
traditional, film color photography for many, many years at a very high
level make the switch to digital, it takes them a long time to un-learn
the way they've done things in the past and learn new approaches. 

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Roland Mabo]

From: Artur Ledóchowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:11:25 +0200
One thing I'm sure is that the *ist is not the camera for me - I need full
backward compatibility...
Regards
I believe the *ist is designed for newcomers to photography, and as a step 
up from MZ-30, MZ-50 etc. And those users interest in K-mount lenses from 
the 70's are probably limited. If I buy one, it will be as a replacement for 
my dead MZ-10.

Now, it really is time for Pentax to release teleconverters and extension 
tubes with full aperture- and autofocus coupling.

Best wishes
Roland
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Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Nick Zentena]

On June 4, 2003 07:11 am, Artur Ledóchowski wrote:

> Buying an external meter only to be able to work with the plain K-mount
> lenses in the M mode of the *ist makes no sense to me. The camera has a
> new, advanced, 16-segment matrix and it's IMHO better to get rid of such
> lenses and get the KA-mount ones to be able to use it.

   I can't see too many people having K-mount lenses and not having an 
external meter.

> One thing I'm sure is that the *ist is not the camera for me - I need full
> backward compatibility...


Spotmatic F isn't that the last camera with full backward compatibilty? Hard 
to find new.

Nick

Re: HELP Super Program Screw needed !

[Rfsindg]

When I lost a screw in the bottom of my Super Program, I took it to a local 
camera show.  The camera repair guy ("Free Shutter Check at Show") took out a 
salt shaker sized container of screws, pulled one out, and installed it.  No 
charge.

Can't you call Pentax Canada for a replacement screw for you 135?  Pentax USA 
has been helpful to me with parts before.  Most recently, I sent in a LX with 
sticky mirror and asked for parts for a AF28-70/2.8 lens.  The blasted 
zoom/clip button had come off the lens body.  Pentax USA asked me to send them the 
lens, which they repaired and returned - no charge!  

Now if somebody could just find the parts I need for an Auto Bellows A.  
Pentax USA couldn't supply them.  I have a bellows A that is missing the camera 
mounting ring.  It's a simple thing with a bayonet mount and a wider black bit 
that fits into the bellows.  A set screw on the bellows stage lets you take the 
camera mount out, put it onto the camera, remount the whole thing, and turn 
it for horizontal or vertical shots.  If anybody has a line on this item... 

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> It seems that Pentax is using some special metric. I needed a screw for 
>  a lens (yeah that 135). A local tech went through a huge box of screws. 
>  They looked of being the proper size, however they didn't go more then 
>  one turn. Pentax screws are screwed.
>  
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  > Ryan,
>  > Drop by your local camera repair shop.  
>  > They will have an appropriate replacement.

Re: OT: 2 articles from the washington post

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Jun 2003 at 7:06, Nick Zentena wrote:

>  How big is a pixel? How big is a grain? Isn't digital interpolated? Won't it
> always be? Digital won't over come that.

Well actually the Foveon concept negates the need for inter-pixel interpolation 
already. And grain only comes into the equation if the enlargement is 
sufficient to resolve the source grain.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 Jun 2003 at 14:12, Roland Mabo wrote:

> Now, it really is time for Pentax to release teleconverters and extension 
> tubes with full aperture- and autofocus coupling.

Is that before or after the DSLR. LOL

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses

[Mike Ignatiev]

Adorama and B&H sell new ones for something like $150. I have one and am very happy 
with it.

Mishka

> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: *ist SLR and K-mount lenses
> 
> about meters and two good options are the Sekonic 
> L308BII and Gossen Gossen Luna Pro digital. If you 
> are prepared to buy second hand either can be found 
> on eBay for around US$130
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rob Studdert

*ist in stock

[Camdir]

Not sure of the price as yet as the invoice has not yet arrived. 

http://members.aol.com/junk2cash2002/ist.jpg

First impressions - why doesn't it weigh anything?

Kind regards

Peter