Re: Irritating with stream companion.

2008-06-06 Thread Curtis Delzer
Yes, really, however most of the time it does it's job, ok. I've only 
seen it happen with two books where it did not copy all the needed 
files from one folder into one it created on the card for the stream. 
Easier to move or copy folder(s) from your PC to the card, though the 
advantage of the stream companion software is that it will keep track 
of how much room is available on the card, and you can keep track of 
all the books that take up X room, and can illuminate certain books 
and then add smaller ones, etc. for the final tally, as close to the 
card limit as possible. If this efficiency doesn't interest you, then 
don't use the companion software, maybe except for making the notes 
created on the stream into *.wav files.

Curtis Delzer

At 11:32 PM 6/5/2008, you wrote:
>Really? That's daisy books your talking about right? - for normal books, I
>use a card reader- or transfer via my computer, much easier imho.
>
>
>Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
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>From: "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:00 AM
>Subject: Re: Irritating with stream companion.
>
>
> > Problems with that stream companion software is that a big bug exists
> > that in some books, all of the files are not uploaded to the card so
> > the books sent via this method are corrupted. I've pointed this out
> > to HumanWare, but nothing done as of yet, and it's been at least 3 months.
> >
> > ..c
> >
> > At 10:21 PM 6/4/2008, you wrote:
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>What makes you think this?
> >>In stream companion, go to notes tab, select the stream, hit space on all
> >>the notes you want to select? Not that hard...imho, anyway. doesn't take
> >>that long, iether.
> >>
> >>
> >>Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
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> >>Subject: Irritating with stiream companion.
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> >>
> >> > Hello!
> >> > One thing i have found out when using the stream companion is that yu
> >> > can
> >> > not select all notes end convert them in to wav files.
> >> > I think this is really bad because if you have many notes you'll have a
> >> > lot
> >> > of extra work to do.
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talks

2008-06-06 Thread Paul Oeser
I just bought a new cell phone.  I have downloaded the talks file  
which is a zip file.  I unziped it in to my unzip directory to see  
what it was there are 2 files.  I'm assumming that I unzip them to my  
phone?

My question is how to install talks on the phone?


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Re: talks

2008-06-06 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Paul,
What is Talks?
Is it some kind of firmware to make the phone more assessable for blind 
people?
Thanks.
  John.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: talks


>I just bought a new cell phone.  I have downloaded the talks file
> which is a zip file.  I unziped it in to my unzip directory to see
> what it was there are 2 files.  I'm assumming that I unzip them to my
> phone?
>
> My question is how to install talks on the phone?
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Re: talks

2008-06-06 Thread Paul Oeser
It is a screen reader for cell phones.
On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:19 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Paul,
> What is Talks?
> Is it some kind of firmware to make the phone more assessable for  
> blind
> people?
> Thanks.
>  John.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Oeser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:08 AM
> Subject: talks
>
>
>> I just bought a new cell phone.  I have downloaded the talks file
>> which is a zip file.  I unziped it in to my unzip directory to see
>> what it was there are 2 files.  I'm assumming that I unzip them to my
>> phone?
>>
>> My question is how to install talks on the phone?
>>
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Re: talks

2008-06-06 Thread Josh
Hi,
talks is a screen reader for phones running the symbian operating system. 

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From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: talks


> High Paul,
> What is Talks?
> Is it some kind of firmware to make the phone more assessable for blind 
> people?
> Thanks.
>  John.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul Oeser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:08 AM
> Subject: talks
> 
> 
>>I just bought a new cell phone.  I have downloaded the talks file
>> which is a zip file.  I unziped it in to my unzip directory to see
>> what it was there are 2 files.  I'm assumming that I unzip them to my
>> phone?
>>
>> My question is how to install talks on the phone?
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Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread chris ramsay
sounds like time for another law suit. chris 
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Greetings and felicitations:
> 
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom 
> Wlodkowski,
> Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr. Wlodkowski does 
> not
> bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his favor, he is doing his 
> best to
> provide us with advance notice and a promise to work to make things 
> better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility issues
> pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of integrity 
> and
> a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to AOL's services by 
> all
> people with disabilities.
> 
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it 
> refers:
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Curtis Chong
> 
> ---
> 
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below 
> is
> one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues between the 
> AOL
> Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it was generally 
> usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In 
> fact
> we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to the use 
> of
> a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience and plan to 
> work
> with our partner to improve usability of our new player in subsequent
> releases.
> 
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio. 
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic increase 
> in
> the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This action by the 
> record
> labels left AOL no choice but to look for an alternative way to stay in 
> the
> internet radio business. Given the business demands and accelerated
> transition, there wasn't ample time for us to effective address the 
> major
> usability issues with the CBS Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the
> accessibility barriers presented by this transition, and is committed to
> addressing the issue with CBS Radio once the new player interface 
> launches
> on June 9.
> 
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you 
> know
> through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL 
> Instant
> Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the usability 
> of
> our products and services with screen access software. There are times
> however where business needs put us in a situation where we regrettably
> cannot deliver an accessible interface when a product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr. 
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once 
> the
> team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary 
> usability
> improvements.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tom
> 
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the 
> keys
> are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
> 
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is off 
> and
> to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same message, 
> and
> the category remains closed.
> 
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up. 
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I 
> then
> select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
> station.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards Steve
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype:  steve1963 
> 
> 
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Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Pattison
From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings and felicitations:

I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom 
Wlodkowski,
Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr. Wlodkowski does 
not
bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his favor, he is doing his 
best to
provide us with advance notice and a promise to work to make things 
better.
He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility issues
pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of integrity 
and
a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to AOL's services by 
all
people with disabilities.

Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it 
refers:

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

---

The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below 
is
one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues between the 
AOL
Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it was generally 
usable.
Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In 
fact
we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to the use 
of
a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience and plan to 
work
with our partner to improve usability of our new player in subsequent
releases.

Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio. 
The
necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic increase 
in
the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This action by the 
record
labels left AOL no choice but to look for an alternative way to stay in 
the
internet radio business. Given the business demands and accelerated
transition, there wasn't ample time for us to effective address the 
major
usability issues with the CBS Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the
accessibility barriers presented by this transition, and is committed to
addressing the issue with CBS Radio once the new player interface 
launches
on June 9.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you 
know
through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL 
Instant
Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the usability 
of
our products and services with screen access software. There are times
however where business needs put us in a situation where we regrettably
cannot deliver an accessible interface when a product is first launched.
This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr. 
Roderick
and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once 
the
team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary 
usability
improvements.

Best,

Tom

Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the 
keys
are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.

When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is off 
and
to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same message, 
and
the category remains closed.

I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up. 
I
am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I 
then
select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
station.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Regards Steve
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype:  steve1963 



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RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread albert griffith
I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
wait and see. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of chris ramsay
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

sounds like time for another law suit. chris
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Greetings and felicitations:
> 
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom 
> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr. 
> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his 
> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a 
> promise to work to make things better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility 
> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of 
> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to 
> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
> 
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address 
> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
> refers:
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Curtis Chong
> 
> ---
> 
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below 
> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues 
> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it 
> was generally usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In 
> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to 
> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience 
> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new 
> player in subsequent releases.
> 
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio. 
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic 
> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This 
> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an 
> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the 
> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time 
> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS 
> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers 
> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue 
> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
> 
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you 
> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL 
> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the 
> usability of our products and services with screen access software. 
> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation 
> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a 
> product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr. 
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once 
> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary 
> usability improvements.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tom
> 
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the 
> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
> 
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is 
> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same 
> message, and the category remains closed.
> 
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up. 
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I 
> then select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit 
> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current 
> station.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards Steve
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype:  steve1963
> 
> 
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Re: talks

2008-06-06 Thread constantine (on laptop)
Tox is a program designed to work on nokia phones. Its basically a screen 
reader for your phone, as I understand it.


Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!

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100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: talks


> High Paul,
> What is Talks?
> Is it some kind of firmware to make the phone more assessable for blind
> people?
> Thanks.
>  John.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul Oeser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:08 AM
> Subject: talks
>
>
>>I just bought a new cell phone.  I have downloaded the talks file
>> which is a zip file.  I unziped it in to my unzip directory to see
>> what it was there are 2 files.  I'm assumming that I unzip them to my
>> phone?
>>
>> My question is how to install talks on the phone?
>>
>>
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Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread Peter Scanlon
I don't understand why such software is able to be sold legally when 
Government has laws about accessibility.
It really means the laws are pointless.

- Original Message - 
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


>I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
> wait and see.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of chris ramsay
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>sounds like time for another law suit. chris
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
>> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Greetings and felicitations:
>>
>> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
>> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
>> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
>> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
>> promise to work to make things better.
>> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
>> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
>> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
>> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>>
>> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
>> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
>> refers:
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Curtis Chong
>>
>> ---
>>
>> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
>> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
>> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
>> was generally usable.
>> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In
>> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to
>> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience
>> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new
>> player in subsequent releases.
>>
>> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio.
>> The
>> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
>> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This
>> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an
>> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the
>> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time
>> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS
>> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers
>> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue
>> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
>>
>> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you
>> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL
>> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the
>> usability of our products and services with screen access software.
>> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation
>> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a
>> product is first launched.
>> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr.
>> Roderick
>> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once
>> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary
>> usability improvements.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the
>> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
>>
>> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is
>> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same
>> message, and the category remains closed.
>>
>> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up.
>> I
>> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I
>> then select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
>> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
>> station.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards Steve
>> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype:  steve1963
>>
>>
>>
>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
>> http://www.pc-audio.org
>>
>> To uns

Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread Peter Scanlon
Don't know if this will effect your radio listening. 
- Original Message - 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Greetings and felicitations:
> 
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom 
> Wlodkowski,
> Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr. Wlodkowski does 
> not
> bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his favor, he is doing his 
> best to
> provide us with advance notice and a promise to work to make things 
> better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility issues
> pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of integrity 
> and
> a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to AOL's services by 
> all
> people with disabilities.
> 
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it 
> refers:
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Curtis Chong
> 
> ---
> 
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below 
> is
> one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues between the 
> AOL
> Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it was generally 
> usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In 
> fact
> we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to the use 
> of
> a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience and plan to 
> work
> with our partner to improve usability of our new player in subsequent
> releases.
> 
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio. 
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic increase 
> in
> the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This action by the 
> record
> labels left AOL no choice but to look for an alternative way to stay in 
> the
> internet radio business. Given the business demands and accelerated
> transition, there wasn't ample time for us to effective address the 
> major
> usability issues with the CBS Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the
> accessibility barriers presented by this transition, and is committed to
> addressing the issue with CBS Radio once the new player interface 
> launches
> on June 9.
> 
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you 
> know
> through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL 
> Instant
> Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the usability 
> of
> our products and services with screen access software. There are times
> however where business needs put us in a situation where we regrettably
> cannot deliver an accessible interface when a product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr. 
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once 
> the
> team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary 
> usability
> improvements.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tom
> 
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the 
> keys
> are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
> 
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is off 
> and
> to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same message, 
> and
> the category remains closed.
> 
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up. 
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I 
> then
> select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
> station.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards Steve
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype:  steve1963 
> 
> 
> 
> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... 
> http://www.pc-audio.org
> 
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Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Yeah, really, even I believe a lawsuit or anything close over this situation 
would be jumping the gun.  I'd definitely like to know about alternative 
streaming options though.

- Original Message - 
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
wait and see.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of chris ramsay
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

sounds like time for another law suit. chris
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Greetings and felicitations:
>
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
> promise to work to make things better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
> refers:
>
> Cordially,
>
> Curtis Chong
>
> ---
>
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
> was generally usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In
> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to
> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience
> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new
> player in subsequent releases.
>
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio.
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This
> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an
> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the
> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time
> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS
> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers
> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue
> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
>
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you
> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL
> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the
> usability of our products and services with screen access software.
> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation
> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a
> product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr.
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once
> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary
> usability improvements.
>
> Best,
>
> Tom
>
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the
> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
>
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is
> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same
> message, and the category remains closed.
>
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up.
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I
> then select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
> station.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards Steve
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype:  steve1963
>
>
>
> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
> http://www.pc-audio.org
>
> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
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RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread albert griffith
I think they'll get a reasonable time frame within which to comply.  The
CEO's tone was cautious but optimistic.  Bottom line?  Accessibility has to
be built in just like safety is in automobiles.  They aren't allowed to tack
it on at the end of the line as an afterthought. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:11 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

Yeah, really, even I believe a lawsuit or anything close over this situation
would be jumping the gun.  I'd definitely like to know about alternative
streaming options though.

- Original Message -
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
wait and see.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of chris ramsay
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

sounds like time for another law suit. chris
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Greetings and felicitations:
>
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
> promise to work to make things better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
> refers:
>
> Cordially,
>
> Curtis Chong
>
> ---
>
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
> was generally usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In
> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to
> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience
> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new
> player in subsequent releases.
>
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio.
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This
> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an
> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the
> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time
> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS
> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers
> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue
> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
>
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you
> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL
> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the
> usability of our products and services with screen access software.
> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation
> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a
> product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr.
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once
> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary
> usability improvements.
>
> Best,
>
> Tom
>
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the
> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
>
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is
> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same
> message, and the category remains closed.
>
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up.
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I
> th

RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread albert griffith
The solution lies in demanding all programs be accessible from their
beginnings.  The law has helped but it needs more teeth. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter Scanlon
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:03 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

I don't understand why such software is able to be sold legally when
Government has laws about accessibility.
It really means the laws are pointless.

- Original Message -
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


>I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
> wait and see.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of chris ramsay
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>sounds like time for another law suit. chris
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
>> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Greetings and felicitations:
>>
>> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
>> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
>> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
>> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
>> promise to work to make things better.
>> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
>> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
>> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
>> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>>
>> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
>> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
>> refers:
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Curtis Chong
>>
>> ---
>>
>> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
>> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
>> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
>> was generally usable.
>> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In
>> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to
>> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience
>> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new
>> player in subsequent releases.
>>
>> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio.
>> The
>> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
>> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This
>> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an
>> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the
>> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time
>> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS
>> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers
>> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue
>> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
>>
>> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you
>> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL
>> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the
>> usability of our products and services with screen access software.
>> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation
>> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a
>> product is first launched.
>> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr.
>> Roderick
>> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once
>> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary
>> usability improvements.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the
>> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
>>
>> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is
>> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same
>> message, and the category remains closed.
>>
>> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up.
>> I
>> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I
>> then select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I h

Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread chris ramsay
well these olks have to learn that accessibility is a 
must when making these so claled business decisions. its a cost of doing 
business and when they ignorit we must use appropriate remedies. chris
- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> Yeah, really, even I believe a lawsuit or anything close over this 
> situation
> would be jumping the gun.  I'd definitely like to know about alternative
> streaming options though.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
> I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
> wait and see.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of chris ramsay
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>sounds like time for another law suit. chris
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
>> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Greetings and felicitations:
>>
>> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
>> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
>> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
>> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
>> promise to work to make things better.
>> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
>> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
>> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
>> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>>
>> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
>> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
>> refers:
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Curtis Chong
>>
>> ---
>>
>> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
>> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
>> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
>> was generally usable.
>> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In
>> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to
>> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience
>> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new
>> player in subsequent releases.
>>
>> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio.
>> The
>> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
>> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This
>> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an
>> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the
>> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time
>> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS
>> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers
>> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue
>> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
>>
>> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you
>> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL
>> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the
>> usability of our products and services with screen access software.
>> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation
>> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a
>> product is first launched.
>> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr.
>> Roderick
>> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once
>> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary
>> usability improvements.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the
>> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
>>
>> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is
>> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same
>> message, and the category remains closed.
>>
>> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up.
>> I
>> am able to choose a categ

RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread albert griffith
As far as I know it is but I think they're talking about their embedded
player. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 2:17 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

Hi Steve!  But isn't Winamp a part of AOL?  
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Greetings and felicitations:
> 
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom 
> Wlodkowski,
> Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr. Wlodkowski does 
> not
> bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his favor, he is doing his 
> best to
> provide us with advance notice and a promise to work to make things 
> better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility issues
> pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of integrity 
> and
> a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to AOL's services by 
> all
> people with disabilities.
> 
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it 
> refers:
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Curtis Chong
> 
> ---
> 
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below 
> is
> one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues between the 
> AOL
> Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it was generally 
> usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In 
> fact
> we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to the use 
> of
> a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience and plan to 
> work
> with our partner to improve usability of our new player in subsequent
> releases.
> 
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio. 
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic increase 
> in
> the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This action by the 
> record
> labels left AOL no choice but to look for an alternative way to stay in 
> the
> internet radio business. Given the business demands and accelerated
> transition, there wasn't ample time for us to effective address the 
> major
> usability issues with the CBS Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the
> accessibility barriers presented by this transition, and is committed to
> addressing the issue with CBS Radio once the new player interface 
> launches
> on June 9.
> 
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you 
> know
> through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL 
> Instant
> Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the usability 
> of
> our products and services with screen access software. There are times
> however where business needs put us in a situation where we regrettably
> cannot deliver an accessible interface when a product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr. 
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once 
> the
> team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary 
> usability
> improvements.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tom
> 
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the 
> keys
> are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
> 
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is off 
> and
> to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same message, 
> and
> the category remains closed.
> 
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up. 
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I 
> then
> select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
> station.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards Steve
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype:  steve1963 
> 
> 
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Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Steve!  But isn't Winamp a part of AOL?  
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Greetings and felicitations:
> 
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom 
> Wlodkowski,
> Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr. Wlodkowski does 
> not
> bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his favor, he is doing his 
> best to
> provide us with advance notice and a promise to work to make things 
> better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility issues
> pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of integrity 
> and
> a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to AOL's services by 
> all
> people with disabilities.
> 
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it 
> refers:
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Curtis Chong
> 
> ---
> 
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below 
> is
> one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues between the 
> AOL
> Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it was generally 
> usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In 
> fact
> we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to the use 
> of
> a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience and plan to 
> work
> with our partner to improve usability of our new player in subsequent
> releases.
> 
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio. 
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic increase 
> in
> the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This action by the 
> record
> labels left AOL no choice but to look for an alternative way to stay in 
> the
> internet radio business. Given the business demands and accelerated
> transition, there wasn't ample time for us to effective address the 
> major
> usability issues with the CBS Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the
> accessibility barriers presented by this transition, and is committed to
> addressing the issue with CBS Radio once the new player interface 
> launches
> on June 9.
> 
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you 
> know
> through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL 
> Instant
> Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the usability 
> of
> our products and services with screen access software. There are times
> however where business needs put us in a situation where we regrettably
> cannot deliver an accessible interface when a product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr. 
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once 
> the
> team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary 
> usability
> improvements.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tom
> 
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the 
> keys
> are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
> 
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is off 
> and
> to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same message, 
> and
> the category remains closed.
> 
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up. 
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I 
> then
> select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
> station.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards Steve
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype:  steve1963 
> 
> 
> 
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