well these olks have to learn that accessibility is a 
must when making these so claled business decisions. its a cost of doing 
business and when they ignorit we must use appropriate remedies. chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> Yeah, really, even I believe a lawsuit or anything close over this 
> situation
> would be jumping the gun.  I'd definitely like to know about alternative
> streaming options though.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
> I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
> wait and see.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of chris ramsay
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>                sounds like time for another law suit. chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
>> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Greetings and felicitations:
>>
>> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
>> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
>> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
>> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
>> promise to work to make things better.
>> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
>> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
>> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
>> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>>
>> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
>> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
>> refers:
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Curtis Chong
>>
>> -------------------
>>
>> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
>> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
>> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
>> was generally usable.
>> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In
>> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to
>> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience
>> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new
>> player in subsequent releases.
>>
>> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio.
>> The
>> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
>> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This
>> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an
>> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the
>> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time
>> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS
>> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers
>> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue
>> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
>>
>> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you
>> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL
>> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the
>> usability of our products and services with screen access software.
>> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation
>> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a
>> product is first launched.
>> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr.
>> Roderick
>> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once
>> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary
>> usability improvements.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the
>> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
>>
>> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is
>> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same
>> message, and the category remains closed.
>>
>> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up.
>> I
>> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I
>> then select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
>> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
>> station.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards Steve
>> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype:  steve1963
>>
>>
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