Re: Archiving
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, February 13 at 08:58 AM, quoth Christian Brabandt: >> If I ever need to refer to something in deep storage, I can always >> go find it (using mutt) and search for it (using mutt). > > The last time I did that it would take an considerably amount of time, > whenever I opened that folder. Well admittedly, that folder containea > about hundreds of mails, but I didn't like it, because mutt was > unresponsive. Suit yourself; I've found that, since I moved my IMAP server from the laggardly BincIMAP to Dovecot, my ability to search gigantic archive mailboxes has become, well, gigantic. Granted, Binc was simple and straightforward as can be, but Dovecot builds its own indexes (including full-text indexes), which makes searching a breeze even without mutt's header caching. And with the header caching? It's just blazing fast. I've never used offlineimap or mairix or any of these similar tools, which all sound pretty neat. However, since moving to Dovecot, I haven't felt the need. (for what it's worth, my archive folders are in a second namespace that stores things in mbox format mostly for space reasons, rather than speed.) BUT, the great thing about email is: to each their own. It's all about what works for you. :) ~Kyle - -- We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. -- Edward R. Murrow -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmVOeQACgkQBkIOoMqOI14FOQCgojkpf4BJO9Ywvizz5IKfiq8N Ol8AoP95QzK5UlbP955Ttudthcr3Cwac =6rYr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Archiving
* Cameron Simpson wrote on 13.02.2009 at 12:30: > > (Except for spam; that goes to bogofilter for accounting and then > discarded.) How do you implement it in the muttrc? Or do you use tools like procmail. andreas
Re: Archiving
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:25:04PM +0100, Andreas Kalex wrote:
> > (Except for spam; that goes to bogofilter for accounting and then
> > discarded.)
> How do you implement it in the muttrc? Or do you use tools like procmail.
I have those lines in my muttrc :
macro pager "\Cxs" "bogofilter -s && echo \"Mail registered as
spam.\"" "Mail registered as spam"
macro index "\Cxs" "bogofilter -s && echo \"Mail registered as
spam.\"" "Mail registered as spam"
macro pager "\Cxus" "bogofilter -Sn && echo \"Mail unregistered
as spam.\"" "Mail unregistered as spam"
macro index "\Cxus" "bogofilter -Sn && echo \"Mail unregistered
as spam.\"" "Mail unregistered as spam"
macro pager "\Cxg" "bogofilter -n && echo \"Mail registered as
good.\"" "Mail registered as good"
macro index "\Cxg" "bogofilter -n && echo \"Mail registered as
good.\"" "Mail registered as good"
macro pager "\Cxug" "bogofilter -Ns && echo \"Mail unregistered
as good.\"" "Mail unregistered as good"
macro index "\Cxug" "bogofilter -Ns && echo \"Mail unregistered
as good.\"" "Mail unregistered as good"
macro pager "\Cxt" "bogofilter -t" "Check"
macro index "\Cxt" "bogofilter -t" "Check"
For instance, I can tell bogofilter "this mail is a spam" by pressing :
Ctrl+x then the 's' key.
As I use a maildir, I also wrote a little wrapper of bogofilter :
$ cat bin/bogofilter-wrapper.sh
#!/bin/sh
mailbox="$1"
spambox="$2"
[[ ! -z "$2" ]] && spambox='[Gmail].Spam'
src="/home/nicolas/Mail/${mailbox}/INBOX/new/"
dest="/home/nicolas/Mail/${mailbox}/${spambox}/new/"
echo "Looking for spam."
spam=0
for mail in $(find "${src}" -type f) ; do
bogofilter -I "${mail}" && {
echo "Spam found : $mail"
spam=$((spam+1))
mv "$mail" "$dest"
}
total=$((total+1))
done
echo "Total spam found : $spam/$total"
#EOF-
I call this script like this from mutt :
macro pager "\Cwf" "bogofilter-wrapper.sh
'nicolas_MAILBOX_gmail.com' '[Gmail].Spam'" "Filter mails"
macro index "\Cwf" "bogofilter-wrapper.sh
'nicolas_MAILBOX_gmail.com' '[Gmail].Spam'" "Filter mails"
--
Nicolas Sebrecht
Re: set up multiple account
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Ed Blackman wrote: > `muttGmail cfoobar` > `muttGmail ifoobar` > > Mutt will run muttGmail with the given argument. muttGmail will take > the argument and spit out the complete folder-hook. Mutt will then > interpret the output as configuration commands, and you're all set up. I tried but failed, Apparently mutt does not execute that output as commands. It seems need a :source command and provide a temp file name. Or did I missed something? -- regards, GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 唐詩109 杜甫 月夜憶舍弟 戍鼓斷人行 秋邊一雁聲 露從今夜白 月是故鄉明 有弟皆分散 無家問死生 寄書長不達 況乃未休兵
newbie install
I'd be grateful if someone could just clarify a couple of things before i do an installation. using Ubuntu 8.04 on a standalone PC connected to broadband. I chose Mutt as i can use vim as an editor and hopefully will be able to reply to emails from my many yahoogroups and mail lists rather more quickly than i have been doing. I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com Reading the Mutt manual and the gentoo guide; i gather that i need to install fetchmail, procmail, mutt and one of a] nbstmp, b]ssmtp, c] esmtp, d] mstmp as i'm not setting up an actual mail server either of these are adequate but which should i choose. mstmp i gather can be set up for SSL. SSL is what i have set up for Thunderbird and had no problems. thanks james
Re: newbie install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, February 13 at 05:37 PM, quoth James Freer: > I'd be grateful if someone could just clarify a couple of things > before i do an installation. I can try! :) > using Ubuntu 8.04 on a standalone PC connected to broadband. I chose > Mutt as i can use vim as an editor and hopefully will be able to > reply to emails from my many yahoogroups and mail lists rather more > quickly than i have been doing. Sounds good. > I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com Ah, fun. > Reading the Mutt manual and the gentoo guide; i gather that i need to > install fetchmail, procmail, mutt and one of a] nbstmp, b]ssmtp, c] > esmtp, d] mstmp as i'm not setting up an actual mail server either of > these are adequate but which should i choose. Eh? No, that must be an outdated guide. Let's frame this in terms of tasks: you need to be able to read your email, and you need to be able to *send* email. Sending email has gotten much easier; you *can* use nbsmtp/ssmtp/esmtp/msmtp or any of the other variants, but the 1.5.x versions of mutt can also simply send mail themselves, as long as you have a server to relay through (e.g. your ISP or google's mail servers). All you need to do is ensure that your version of mutt has been compiled with smtp support (the default Ubuntu package probably has) and then add the following to your muttrc: set smtp_url="smtp://u...@googlemail.com@smtp.gmail.com/" (and replace "u...@googlemail.com" with one of your actual addresses) The other task is to be able to *read* email. You can do this lots of different ways, but the simplest is to simply use mutt to read the messages via IMAP (you don't NEED fetchmail or procmail or any of the others, though you certainly *can* use them if you like). You DO need to enable IMAP on your Gmail accounts first, though (see http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=75725&ctx=sibling). The appropriate mutt setting would be something like this: set folder="imaps://u...@googlemail.com@imap.gmail.com/" set spoolfile="=INBOX" There's more work to be done to efficiently handle all three accounts at the same time, and a lot of it depends on how exactly you want mutt to behave. Does that help? ~Kyle - -- Many who claim to have been transformed by Christ's love are deeply, even murderously, intolerant of criticism. -- Sam Harris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmVtAgACgkQBkIOoMqOI15xWgCdF6zc3FwkdfT22lgbp+nbFhuC am0AoOvUpCdTzHAdq3vtGv9GIbPyqiji =dIEH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: set up multiple account
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:17:43AM +0800, bill lam wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Ed Blackman wrote: `muttGmail cfoobar` `muttGmail ifoobar` Mutt will run muttGmail with the given argument. muttGmail will take the argument and spit out the complete folder-hook. Mutt will then interpret the output as configuration commands, and you're all set up. I tried but failed, Apparently mutt does not execute that output as commands. It seems need a :source command and provide a temp file name. Or did I missed something? Using backticks in .muttrc definitely works for me in Mutt 1.5.17+20080114 (Ubuntu 8.04 packaged version). I don't have Gmail accounts, so I just tested that backticks work for Mutt configuration, and that the script I gave you outputs reasonable looking config commands. Do this, inside mutt type: :`echo 'set my_test=foo'` and then :set ?my_test You need the leading colon in both cases to get into configuration mode. You should see 'my_test="foo"'. If not, run "mutt -v" on the command line and post the output. If you do, the problem is in the script: it's either not running (PATH problem?) or is not producing the right output. If it's not running, you should be seeing an error that says something like "sh: muttGmail: not found". Ed signature.txt Description: Digital signature
Re: Clarification on tag-prefix-cond vs. tag-prefix
Kyle Wheeler: >... However, because I use > , when there aren't any tagged messages (i.e. the > pattern "~r >3m" didn't match anything), mutt will stop processing > that hook and none of the rest of it will happen. > > Does that make sense? yes it does! thank you so much for posting this help on archiving. i learned a lot from reviewing it very slowly. if you don't mind, can you explain the pattern "~r >3m" equally well? i know i could figure it out by RTFM but it would take forever. Jan
Re: Clarification on tag-prefix-cond vs. tag-prefix
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:20 +0100, "Jan-Herbert Damm" wrote: > Kyle Wheeler: > >... However, because I use > > , when there aren't any tagged messages (i.e. the > > pattern "~r >3m" didn't match anything), mutt will stop processing > > that hook and none of the rest of it will happen. > > > > Does that make sense? > yes it does! thank you so much for posting this help on archiving. i > learned > a lot from reviewing it very slowly. > > if you don't mind, can you explain the pattern "~r >3m" equally well? i > know i > could figure it out by RTFM but it would take forever. > in less than 1 minute - from TFM: ~r MIN-MAX messages with "date-received" in a Date range >3m greater than 3 months.
Re: newbie install
Kyle Thanks for your reply - that has helped clarify some things. Ubuntu 8.04 repos has the mutt 1.5.17 [but as the 8.04 version is the Long Term Support version it may well automatically replace it with the updated version on install]. >> I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com > > Ah, fun. Does that mean considerable stress and grief?? >> Reading the Mutt manual and the gentoo guide; i gather that i need to >> install fetchmail, procmail, mutt and one of a] nbstmp, b]ssmtp, c] >> esmtp, d] mstmp as i'm not setting up an actual mail server either of >> these are adequate but which should i choose. > > Eh? No, that must be an outdated guide. So just install mutt on it's own - there don't seem to be any dependencies according to synaptic. > > Let's frame this in terms of tasks: you need to be able to read your > email, and you need to be able to *send* email. > > Sending email has gotten much easier; you *can* use > nbsmtp/ssmtp/esmtp/msmtp or any of the other variants, but the 1.5.x > versions of mutt can also simply send mail themselves, as long as you > have a server to relay through (e.g. your ISP or google's mail > servers). All you need to do is ensure that your version of mutt has > been compiled with smtp support (the default Ubuntu package probably > has) and then add the following to your muttrc: > > set smtp_url="smtp://u...@googlemail.com@smtp.gmail.com/" > > (and replace "u...@googlemail.com" with one of your actual addresses) > > The other task is to be able to *read* email. You can do this lots of > different ways, but the simplest is to simply use mutt to read the > messages via IMAP (you don't NEED fetchmail or procmail or any of the > others, though you certainly *can* use them if you like). You DO need > to enable IMAP on your Gmail accounts first, though (see > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=75725&ctx=sibling). > The appropriate mutt setting would be something like this: > > set folder="imaps://u...@googlemail.com@imap.gmail.com/" > set spoolfile="=INBOX" I have set up IMAP gmail with Thunderbird and wondered about POP and SMTP. Gmail has an odd way of handling IMAP which i'm not sure about. Using as webmail Gmail has an Inbox, Sent and All Mail box - when using Thunderbird in IMAP all incoming mail remains in the Inbox, then has to be archived manually [by going back to webmail] to put it in the All Mail box. Gmail is very clever with its conversations feature and this is why it has this All Mail box i guess but i didn't find a away of archiving the Inbox to All Mail - Gmail weren't much help when i raised a support ticket with them. I did use POP and SMTP again with Thunderbird and that worked well - emptying the Inbox but one looses the conversation feature [iirc]. So i was thinking along the POP - SMTP route this time. Any gmail users on here who can advise? > There's more work to be done to efficiently handle all three accounts > at the same time, and a lot of it depends on how exactly you want mutt > to behave. So what do i do... all i want [i think] is to have the mail collected from each account in turn [a bit like Thunderbird used to do] and put in separate email address folders. thanks james [uk]
Re: Clarification on tag-prefix-cond vs. tag-prefix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, February 13 at 07:20 PM, quoth Jan-Herbert Damm: > if you don't mind, can you explain the pattern "~r >3m" equally > well? Well, that's pretty simple. First, mutt uses what it calls "simple patterns" to match messages. (That's what you search for in the manual if you want to find more information.) That right there is a simple pattern. Simple patterns are a match-type-specifier (for lack of a better term) and, for most match types, a match specification. In this case, the match-type-specifier is "~r". These match-type-specifiers are *generally* a tilde and a letter. That's significant, but I'll get to that in a moment. Some simple patterns only need the specifier. For example, ~N is a pattern that matches all new messages. There's nothing more to it. The ~r match-type means "messages with 'date-received' in a Date range". In other words, the ~r pattern matches against the date that a message was received (how that date is calculated is somewhat complicated, but let's ignore that). But this pattern takes an argument, so you can specify a range of dates it should match. In the manual, this is described as "MIN-MAX", but really, it takes a "date range", which is described in more detail a little later in the manual. A date range is fairly complex and flexible. It can be specified either by listing the bracketing dates (literally MIN-MAX), or by specifying one-end of the range, OR by specifying an age relative to the current time. And dates can be given error ranges. The match I used is fairly basic. ">3m" means "greater than 3 months ago", and is specifying an age relative to the current time. >4m would mean "greater than 4 months ago". You could also do <3m, which would mean "less than 3 months ago", or =3m (exactly 3 months ago). The unit, m in this case, can also be y, w, or d (for years, weeks, or days). But you can see why you'd want an error range. For example: =3m*1w, which would match that two-week range exactly 3 months ago (the * means you're expanding the match in both directions; if you use a - that means only further-into-the-past, and + means the opposite.). Exact dates must be specified in DD[/MM[/[cc]YY]] form. Each bracketed section there means an optional field; any ommitted field is assumed to be the current one. So, for example, "~r 10" would match any email received on the 10th of this month. "~r 10/01" would match any email received on January 10th of this year. "~r 10/01/08" would match any email received on January 10th of 2008, and "~r 10/01/1908" would match any email that appears to have been received back before email existed. So, if I wanted to match all messages received in the entire year of 2008, I could do it a couple different ways. One way would be to specify a date range: ~r 01/01/2008-31/12/2008, or I could use an error-range to accomplish the same thing: ~r 01/01/2008+1y For what it's worth, there's another match-type that also uses this same way of specifying dates: ~d, which matches the Date header (which, unless it's incorrect, usually means the time the message was *sent*, rather than received). With me so far? Now, I said that in the match-type-specifier, the tilde was important, and it is, but now we're getting into *general* "simple patterns". *SOME* match-type-specifiers have alternate forms. For example, ~b specifies a match against the message body. It takes a regular expression as an argument (instead of a date range), which mutt then uses to analyze every message. However, if messages aren't available *locally* (e.g. if you're reading your mail via IMAP), that can cause you to download every message so that mutt can search through it trying to match the regular expression. There's an alternate form of that match, that only works on IMAP servers, =b. That version also searches the body of the message, but asks the *server* to do the search (thus saving bandwidth). Since the IMAP protocol doesn't allow you to specify a regular expression, the =b simple pattern only matches an exact string. As another example, ~C is a match-type-specifier that specifies a match against the To: and CC: headers. Like ~b, it takes a regular expression. However, mutt also allows you to define named "groups" (which is a whole other ball of wax). Thus, there's a variant of ~C that will take a group name instead of a regular expression: %C. For example, I defined a group that contains the addresses of all of my family members. Thus, I can match any message that is addressed To or CC'd to my family members with the following simple pattern: %C family There's a full list of simple pattern types in the manual (I usually use the muttrc man page as a reference for that; search for "simple pat" to take you to the right spot quickly). So-called "simple patterns" like this can also be combined. For example, the pattern "~r <2w ~b mutt" will match any message r
Re: newbie install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, February 13 at 07:44 PM, quoth James Freer: >>> I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com >> Ah, fun. > Does that mean considerable stress and grief?? Maybe. Gmail's IMAP support is a little weird. There are ways of working around that, as you say, but sometimes the workaround is unplatable, in which case stress and grief. :) >> Eh? No, that must be an outdated guide. > So just install mutt on it's own - there don't seem to be any > dependencies according to synaptic. Generally, yes. Now that you've been a bit more descriptive, it sounds like you *may* want to use fetchmail and procmail (or similar alternatives, like getmail instead of fetchmail or maildrop instead of procmail). > So what do i do... all i want [i think] is to have the mail > collected from each account in turn [a bit like Thunderbird used to > do] and put in separate email address folders. Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmail, but fetchmail works well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something on your own computer. Procmail and maildrop are programs designed to filter email into different folders. They have relatively complex preference files, for this very reason, but are quite powerful. I have a lot of experience with procmail (enough to despise it), and so even though I can't help you with the details of it, I recommend maildrop. Note that you don't HAVE to use fetchmail or procmail or any of these programs. You CAN simply use mutt to read the messages while they sit on Gmail's POP or IMAP servers, and you can even use mutt to save messages to local folders; it may not be the most convenient thing for you, though. It all depends on how you want it to work. ~Kyle - -- I am certain there is too much certainty in the world. -- Michael Crichton, State of Fear -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmV4OkACgkQBkIOoMqOI15vAACg0xNT5tEgNQi5PvaKgY9HDtm8 kpIAoPJtE6uOFC4qd1cxAKkXC9Bjda0H =7H0j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: newbie install
> [..] > well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to > your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read > email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something > on your own computer. Run fetchmail with the -k switch or set keep on your entry in fetchmailrc, which will leave your messages on the remote server. I don't know about getmail since I've never used it. Cheers, -- Noah Sheppard Assistant Computer Resource Manager Taylor University CSE Department nshep...@cse.taylor.edu
Re: newbie install
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like > fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmail, but fetchmail works > well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to > your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read > email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something > on your own computer. To comment on your last two sentences: that's not true. Just give the 'keep'-option in your configuration for fetchmail and it will only copy messages to the local mailbox - and keep them on the server, too. So, it'd be no problem to fetchmail messages and read them from time to time with webmailers. Or won't googlemail work with this option? sigi.
Re: newbie install
On 2009-02-13, James Freer wrote: > Kyle > > Thanks for your reply - that has helped clarify some things. Ubuntu > 8.04 repos has the mutt 1.5.17 [but as the 8.04 version is the Long > Term Support version it may well automatically replace it with the > updated version on install]. >>> I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com >> >> Ah, fun. > > Does that mean considerable stress and grief?? I think Gmail's IMAP server works great (far better than some traditional IMAP servers). Multiple accounts is multiple accounts regardless of the server. The only thing I remember causing problems was that Gmail's IMAP server has a very short connection timeout. The following setting in my .muttrc file seems to keep it happily connected: set imap_keepalive=30 > I have set up IMAP gmail with Thunderbird and wondered about POP and > SMTP. Gmail has an odd way of handling IMAP which i'm not sure about. > Using as webmail Gmail has an Inbox, Sent and All Mail box - when > using Thunderbird in IMAP all incoming mail remains in the Inbox, then > has to be archived manually [by going back to webmail] to put it in > the All Mail box. Gmail is very clever with its conversations feature > and this is why it has this All Mail box i guess but i didn't find a > away of archiving the Inbox to All Mail I'm a bit confused about what you mean by "archiving the Inbox to All Mail". If you're using IMAP and if you don't want to see an e-mail in the Inbox folder any more, then delete it. It'll still be there in the "All Mail" box. In Gmail's IMAP server, a message can exist simultaneously in mutliple IMAP folders (yet there's only one real copy of the message). Remember: IMAP folders are just the way that Gmail presents "labels" to an IMAP client. Folders do not correspond to anything like separate directories in a filesystem that contain copies of messages. Be default, incoming messages are given the label "Inbox". The "All Mail" "folder" is special in that it provides a view of all messages regardless of what labels they have (if any). Deleting a mail from a "folder" just removes the corresponding label from the message. IIRC, the only way to really "delete" a message is to move it to the Trash or Spam folder, then delete it from there. Hmm... I don't remember what happens when, via IMAP, you delete a message from the "All Mail" folder. Anyway, it's explained pretty well on the google web site: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=75725 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77657 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78755 -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I just got my PRINCE at bumper sticker ... But now visi.comI can't remember WHO he is ...
Scoring
Hello All, Can someone please explain how scoring works for a beginner? I belong to a few mailing lists and some of them have quite a lot of messages. As I understand it I can use scoring to filter the messages but I am not sure of how to do this and how scoring works! Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Chris -- Chris [ ch...@thewillards.co.uk ] *\ "I'll wrap that car around your \** ** ]-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-[ **\ head." -- Uberman \* ** [ Htag.pl 0.0.23 ] ***\\ -- This message was scanned by ESVA and is believed to be clean.
Re: newbie install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, February 13 at 10:33 PM, quoth sigi: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: >> Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like >> fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmail, but fetchmail works >> well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to >> your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read >> email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something >> on your own computer. > > To comment on your last two sentences: that's not true. You mean it's not *necessarily* true; it is true if he sticks with the default behavior. ~Kyle - -- People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid. -- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmV8QEACgkQBkIOoMqOI14hxQCgsmsg9uN4teswHuH1lKoyqxz2 FV8AoLHTenr/7fcV/fC6BsUXqcQKaxqS =JTVb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: newbie install
Noah Sheppard wrote: [..] well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something on your own computer. Run fetchmail with the -k switch or set keep on your entry in fetchmailrc, which will leave your messages on the remote server. I don't know about getmail since I've never used it. Cheers, With getmail, the keep switch is -l (leave on server) -d (is to delete on server)
Re: newbie install
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:15:30PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Friday, February 13 at 10:33 PM, quoth sigi: > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > >> Collecting email from multiple accounts is what programs like > >> fetchmail or getmail do best. I recommend getmail, but fetchmail works > >> well too. The only thing with them is: they will pull your email to > >> your computer and delete it from the server. You won't be able to read > >> email with the webmail frontend anymore; you'll have to use something > >> on your own computer. > > > > To comment on your last two sentences: that's not true. > > You mean it's not *necessarily* true; it is true if he sticks with the > default behavior. OK, you're right... but in my eyes you implied, he'd have to decide between downloading messages or keeping them on the server when using fetchmail, sorry. So: sure, for the keep-option you have to read the manpages... but which ordinary mutt-user doesn't have to search so many things to make things more usefull? ;) sigi
Re: Archiving
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 04:00:12PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > Heh, well, some people I know don't do anything. Their inbox is > several thousand messages. For me, my inbox is used as a list of > "things I need to take care of". Things like mailing list emails get > automatically delivered into alternate folders, where I keep only the > last 3 months of messages---anything older gets moved to a "deep > storage" archive folder. I use mutt to automatically maintain that > cutoff, via a folder-hook, like so: > > folder-hook =Sent 'push "~r > >3m=Archive.Sent~A"' I'm trying something similar to archive my mail folder-hook =inbox 'push "~(~r>3m)=archivos/inbox~A"' however, this doesn't catch all the messages of the threads of the matched messages (the idea behind the addition of ~() ). I think this is caused because I also have another folder hook to collapse automatically all the threads folder-hook . push "" so now I'm working around this with this new version of the hook folder-hook =inbox 'push "~(~r>3m)=archivos/inbox~A"' which uncollapses, archives, and the collapses back the mailbox This, however, creates another problem: when there is nothing to archive, the mailbox ends up uncollapsed. Any ideas on how to solve this? -- Javier Rojas GPG Key ID: 0xA1C57061 pgpvT6XZrKcos.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Archiving
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, February 13 at 09:37 PM, quoth Javier Rojas: > however, this doesn't catch all the messages of the threads of the > matched messages (the idea behind the addition of ~() ). I think > this is caused because I also have another folder hook to collapse > automatically all the threads That would do it. > so now I'm working around this with this new version of the hook > > folder-hook =inbox 'push > "~(~r>3m)=archivos/inbox~A"' Which has the obvious problem when there are no tagged messages. :) I've wrestled with the same problem. > Any ideas on how to solve this? Yes! Here's the key observation that allows us to solve the problem: tagged messages will get moved, even if they're collapsed, but collapsed messages don't get tagged. So, the workaround is all about ordering; you have to work in the following order: 1. make sure everything is uncollapsed 2. tag the messages you want 3. collapse things 4. use tag-prefix-cond to operate on the tagged messages Don't worry, it took me a while to figure that one out too. ~Kyle - -- Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof. -- Ashley Montague -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmWORgACgkQBkIOoMqOI1729wCg2NpPq1tkwEkd3ikdO6W33L6y HBUAnRcbo3T5w2eusNLyufy90lmOpsy7 =HOAr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: set up multiple account
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Ed Blackman wrote: > Do this, inside mutt type: > > :`echo 'set my_test=foo'` > > and then > > :set ?my_test This example worked, but I might find the reason why it didn't work in general. I saved the following script as mutt-test and put a line `mutt-test bar` in my .muttrc #!/bin/sh email="$1" cat <
