1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[Lutz Jaenicke]

Hi!

I have just update my mutt-1.2.5i installation (with charmaps) to
1.3.23i. While everything else seems to work nicely, I have a problem
when displaying characters beyond ASCII.
I have installed libiconv-1.7.

When viewing Mails with foreign characters in it in a dtterm
(environment variable LANG=C.iso88591), umlauts etc are displayed
in numeric transcription (e.g. \360 instead of an a-umlaut).
When LANG is not being set, single character representation is chosen,
but the actual display does hardly match the correct character.
Setting iconv-hook following the example for HP-UX 10.20 does not make
a difference.

I could not find an explanation of the mechanisms in mutt/doc or the libiconv
distribution. How should this thing be set up?

Many thanks in advance,
Lutz
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[OT] gpg multiple keyrings

[Ailbhe Leamy]

OK, I have seen a bunch of people say that they use multiple keyrings.
This strikes me as an excellent idea. I, however, am a newbie to gpg
and an idiot to boot, and so I have two points of failure.

1) how to get mutt to file keys in the correct keyring?
2) how to move keys from the wrong keyring to the right one?

Ailbhe

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Re: 1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[Thomas Roessler]

On 2001-10-18 11:42:46 +0200, Lutz Jaenicke wrote:

>When viewing Mails with foreign characters in it in a dtterm 
>(environment variable LANG=C.iso88591), umlauts etc are displayed 
>in numeric transcription (e.g. \360 instead of an a-umlaut). When 
>LANG is not being set, single character representation is chosen, 
>but the actual display does hardly match the correct character. 
>Setting iconv-hook following the example for HP-UX 10.20 does not 
>make a difference.

What does mutt set the $charset variable to?

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Re: 1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[Lutz Jaenicke]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:31:59PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> On 2001-10-18 11:42:46 +0200, Lutz Jaenicke wrote:
> 
> >When viewing Mails with foreign characters in it in a dtterm 
> >(environment variable LANG=C.iso88591), umlauts etc are displayed 
> >in numeric transcription (e.g. \360 instead of an a-umlaut). When 
> >LANG is not being set, single character representation is chosen, 
> >but the actual display does hardly match the correct character. 
> >Setting iconv-hook following the example for HP-UX 10.20 does not 
> >make a difference.
> 
> What does mutt set the $charset variable to?

Is there a way to get the list of variables as currently set?
I did not find a command to get this list (mutt -v only delivers
the compile time options). In Muttrc it is not set (default shall
be "").

Best regards,
Lutz
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Re: 1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[René Clerc]

* Lutz Jaenicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [18-10-2001 12:57]:

| Is there a way to get the list of variables as currently set?

I'm not sure whether you can get a list, but you can check a specific
variable by typing:

":set ?"

So, in this case that would be ":set ?charset"

HTH,

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Re: 1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[Thomas Roessler]

On 2001-10-18 12:56:06 +0200, Lutz Jaenicke wrote:

>Is there a way to get the list of variables as currently set? 

No.

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Re: 1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[Lutz Jaenicke]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:59:36PM +0200, Ren? Clerc wrote:
> * Lutz Jaenicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [18-10-2001 12:57]:
> 
> | Is there a way to get the list of variables as currently set?
> 
> I'm not sure whether you can get a list, but you can check a specific
> variable by typing:
> 
> ":set ?"
> 
> So, in this case that would be ":set ?charset"

Ah. That works. So we have
  LANG=C.iso89951  charset="iso-8895-1"
  LANG not set charset="roman8"

Best regards,
Lutz
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error in mutt over R.H. 6.2

[Jose Luis]

Hi:
In my server, when use mutt the system say:

Error al enviar mensaje, proceso hijo termino 70 (Internal error.).

Error sending message, child process dead 70 (Internal error).

Which is the problem?


Regards
J.L.Sánchez

Re: 1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[Thomas Roessler]

On 2001-10-18 13:16:37 +0200, Lutz Jaenicke wrote:

>Ah. That works. So we have
>  LANG=C.iso89951  charset="iso-8895-1"
>  LANG not set charset="roman8"

Mh.  I don't understand why you are seeing the numerical 
representation with LANG=C.iso88591...

Please make sure that the following match:

- The character set of the screen font you use.
- The character set in the LANG and LC_CTYPE environment variables.
- Mutt's charset variable.
- The characters your keyboard sends through the terminal to mutt.

Once that's the case, everything should work nicely.

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Re: VVV NNTP patch -- small comment

[Jerome De Greef]

* David Champion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 2001.10.17, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Jerome De Greef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > It will only retrieve the groups list once. Then remove all newgroups you
> > don't need from your newsrc file and you're all set.
> > The only disadvantage of this is that it will not show the number of new
> > posting for each newsgroup you've subscribed too in the newsgroups browser.
> 
> The problem (for me) is that although the newsrc format allows selection
> of "subscribed" and "unsubscribed" groups, this NNTP patch doesn't
> differentiate them in that it downloads overviews for all groups,
> whether they're subscribed or not. [I think this is what Matej's problem
> is, too -- not just reading the newsrc, but actually grabbing the
> headers/threads for each one.] This is s-l-o-w and unnecessary. A user

I don't know what version of the patch you use (I use the latest) but
here it
only retrieves headers/theads for the groups I'm subscribed.

Jerome

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Re: Converting from mbox -> Maildir/

[Manuel Hendel]

On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 07:08:43PM -0400, Kyle Knack wrote:
> If you're using multiple Maildirs, such as with procmail, you also may
> want to do 'cat mbox|formail -i|procmail' after you have updated your

This is not working for me. If I execute the same as shown above, I
just get the formail help page.

> .procmailrc to filter to the new Maildirs.  This is how I did mine, and
> it worked fine.  It also retains your mbox completely intact just in
> case something goes wrong ;)
> 
> Kyle
> 
> * Nelson D. Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010806 16:19]:
> >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:15:01 -0400
> >From: "Nelson D. Guerrero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Mutt Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Converting from mbox -> Maildir/
> >User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i
> >
> >* On Mon Aug 06, Jean-Sebastien Morisset wrote in [mutt-users]: 
> >-> I've been using mutt v1.2.5 in mbox mode for a while now (500MB for
> >-> ~/Mail), but for compatibility reasons, I have to start using Maildir.
> >-> Does anyone know how I can convert all my mbox directories and files to
> >-> the Maildir format? I have quite a few directories, sub-directories, etc.
> >-> 
> >-> Thanks,
> >-> js.
> >-> -- 
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> >-> Personal Homepage ; UNIX, Internet, 
> >-> Homebrewing, Cigars, PCS, PalmOS, CP2020 and other Fun Stuff...
> >-> This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows NT reboot!
> >->
> >
> >I made this change a couple of weeks ago using: 
> >
> >http://www.qmail.org/mbox2maildir
> >
> >
> >
> >--
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> >
> 
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Re: .mail_aliases

[David T-G]

Hi, all --

William, before I forget I should note that you should send messages to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of @gbnet; while mutt.org is hosted at gbnet
and the address sometimes leaks through, it's not the one to use...

...and then William Park said...
% On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 04:08:35PM -0600, Dave Price wrote:
% > #! /bin/bash
% > /usr/bin/perl -i -p -e 's/\r//g' $1
% 
% Sorry to cut in the middle of thread... but if you're running Linux,
% then read up on 'fromdos' and 'todos'.

Or Sun's unix2dos and dosx2unix :-)


% 
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% 8 CPU cluster, Linux (Slackware), Python, LaTeX, Vim, Mutt, Tin


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Re: .mail_aliases

[David T-G]

Will --

...and then Will Yardley said...
% Jerome De Greef wrote:
% 
% > Did you try removing the trailing ^M (dos CR). In vim you can use
% > :%s/$\r//g to remove them but I think it only work with vim 6.x
% 
% this is ONE thing that i use pico for - opening a file in pico and

Bah.


% saving it will remove the CRs (make sure to use '-w' so lines don't
% wrap).  i would assume that nano would also do this for those of you
% consumed by your hate of UW.

No comment :-)

In vim:

  vim filename
  :set fileformat=unix
  :wq

Ta-daa!  Even easier than the :%s magic available in any vi or clone.


% 
% w
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Re: 1.3.23 libiconv/HP-UX 10.20 question

[Lutz Jaenicke]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 01:35:23PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> On 2001-10-18 13:16:37 +0200, Lutz Jaenicke wrote:
> 
> >Ah. That works. So we have
> > LANG=C.iso89951  charset="iso-8895-1"
> > LANG not set charset="roman8"
> 
> Mh.  I don't understand why you are seeing the numerical 
> representation with LANG=C.iso88591...
> 
> Please make sure that the following match:
> 
> - The character set of the screen font you use.
> - The character set in the LANG and LC_CTYPE environment variables.
> - Mutt's charset variable.
> - The characters your keyboard sends through the terminal to mutt.
> 
> Once that's the case, everything should work nicely.

Hmm. I have just recompiled mutt with --enable-locales-fix (as proposed in
http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/#faqs) and it seems to
work now...

Best regards,
Lutz
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Re: IMAP subfolder update flag

[David T-G]

Rob, et al --

...and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park said...
% On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:37:47PM -0400, Justin R. Miller (dis)graced my inbox with:
% > > I'm not sure how feasable this is in an IMAP environment, but I was
% > > having a similar problem with my local mail folders... What I did to
...
% > > anything else had at least one new message.
% > 
% > Just adding the subfolders to your mailboxes list works fine -- I used
% > Mutt with IMAP for months after sorting server-side with procmail.
% 
% That doesn't work for local mbox folders, though :)

Why not?


% 
% If you leave a folder with new messages, mutt will 'forget' that there
% are new messages in it -- very annoying.

No, no, no...  You're confusing your definition of "new" with mutt's
definition of "new" again.  Until Steven says he means something else,
we'll assume that he's doing it our way :-)


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Re: [OT] gpg multiple keyrings

[David T-G]

Ailbhe --

...and then Ailbhe Leamy said...
% OK, I have seen a bunch of people say that they use multiple keyrings.
% This strikes me as an excellent idea. I, however, am a newbie to gpg
% and an idiot to boot, and so I have two points of failure.
% 
% 1) how to get mutt to file keys in the correct keyring?

I think that folder-hooks resetting the gpg receive command will do the
trick.  This is on my list, but I haven't done it; I will report to the
list when I have.


% 2) how to move keys from the wrong keyring to the right one?

See my recent script attachment; it's quite hard-coded and was meant to
be a knock-off, but it's proven quite useful (which helps explain why
your #1 has not been tackled already).


% 
% Ailbhe
% 
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Re: .mail_aliases

[Thomas E. Dickey]

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, David T-G wrote:

> In vim:
>
>   vim filename
>   :set fileformat=unix
>   :wq

vile filename
:set-u
:wq

>
> Ta-daa!  Even easier than the :%s magic available in any vi or clone.

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Re: Temporarily deactivate auto_view

[darren chamberlain]

Volker Moell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 10/18/2001:
> Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> > Also, what is the _effective_ difference between sourcing a file, and
> > writing some kind of mutt-script to toggle a bunch of options? I don't
> > actually see one :)
> 
> I think: way better clearness.

Are you saying that scripting is clearer than multiple files?  If
you are, I think I disagree.

> When "debugging" your mutt configuration you have to go through
> a lot of files in the worst case - I don't really like this.

When debugging, though, you shouldn't be debugging the entire
muttrc (at least not at first); you should be testing/debugging
specific parts of it, to minimize unintentional interactions, and
then integrate the new changes into the working setup.

> In bash & friends.  you have the possibility to source lot's of files,
> too.  But do you split off your ~/.bashrc into a dozen or more pieces?
> I don't.

$ ls -loF ~/.bash*
-rw---1 darren   4865 Sep 19 12:29 .bashrc
-rw---1 darren 30 Sep 13 14:07 .bash_logout
-rw---1 darren 30 Sep 13 14:07 .bash_profile
drwx--1 darren512 Feb 16  2001 .bash/
-rw---1 darren   1444 Oct 12 08:03 .bash/functions
-rw---1 darren   6542 Mar 21  2001 .bash/history
-rw---1 darren409 Jun 15  2000 .bash/path
-rw---1 darren409 Jun 15  2000 .bash/prompt
-rw---1 darren409 Jun 15  2000 .bash/ssh

All of these do what you would think they do.

Similarly:

$ ls -loF ~/.mutt*
-rw---   1 darren  1273 Oct  1 16:17 aliases
drwx--   2 darren   512 Sep 13 15:13 bin/
-rw---   1 darren  1954 Oct 17 09:01 colors
-rw---   1 darren 35523 Oct 18 10:05 fortunes
-rw---   1 darren   933 Oct  9 14:52 lists
-rw---   1 darren   526 Sep 20 10:08 mailcap
-rw---   1 darren  4989 Oct 18 10:03 muttrc
-rw---   1 darren  1487 Oct  9 14:55 scores
-rw---   1 darren   595 Sep 13 15:41 trash
-rw---   1 darren  1221 Oct  3 12:22 vimrc

These also all do what you would expect.  If the problem is with
scoring, or coloring, for example, I know exactly which files to
fiddle with and resource.  Breaking these things up greatly
simplifies debugging and trying out new things.

> When asking friends for help on some mutt questions, I would
> rather send them "my muttrc" instead of a huge tarball.

Small files are also easier to share with other people; I don't
have to remove all my work-specific aliases, for example, if I
want to post some of my config to a mailing list or put it on the
Net.

Just my thoughts.

(darren)

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my_hdr From: problems

[Drew Raines]

I fear this is something obvious, but I've tried everything I can think
of in both 1.2.5 and 1.3.22.1.

I can't get my_hdr From: to display anything other than

   Drew Raines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Everything else works:

   my_hdr Organization:
   my_hdr X-Some-Other-Header:

..just not the From: one.  I even created a near-blank .muttrc, the only
contents being a completely different header:

   my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not Even My Name)

and it still displayed the former.

What am I missing?

-- 
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Re: my_hdr From: problems

[darren chamberlain]

Drew Raines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 10/18/2001:
> I fear this is something obvious, but I've tried everything I can think
> of in both 1.2.5 and 1.3.22.1.
> 
> I can't get my_hdr From: to display anything other than
> 
>Drew Raines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Everything else works:
> 
>my_hdr Organization:
>my_hdr X-Some-Other-Header:
> 
> ..just not the From: one.  I even created a near-blank .muttrc, the only
> contents being a completely different header:
> 
>my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not Even My Name)
> 
> and it still displayed the former.
> 
> What am I missing?

I think you have to do:

  my_hdr From [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not Even My Name)

not From:.

(darren)

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what they are. That's a general property of things, and that's causing
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Re: my_hdr From: problems

[Not Even My Name]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 11:32:53AM -0500, Drew Raines wrote:
> 
> I can't get my_hdr From: to display anything other than
> 
>Drew Raines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not Even My Name)
> 
my_hdr From: Not Even My Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: my_hdr From: problems

[Drew Raines]

* darren chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I think you have to do:
> 
>   my_hdr From [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not Even My Name)
> 
> not From:.

Tells me it's an invalid header field if I do that.

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Re: my_hdr From: problems

[Drew Raines]

* Not Even My Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> my_hdr From: Not Even My Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

But why can't I use the other style?  Elkins uses it in the 1.2.5
documentation every time he mentions an alias or my_hdr.

Technically I should be able to put whatever I want, no?  It shouldn't even
have to include an email address...

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mbox problem

[Manuel Hendel]

Hallo,

I'm using the maildir mailbox format since today. I'm also using
procmail to filter my mails in different folders. Now I want that the
read mails of some folders go in one mbox and some others in another
mbox. I tried mbox-hook and folder-hook. But it didn't work. Has
anybody an idea how this could work?

Thanks,
Manuel

maildir and compressed folders

[Manuel Hendel]

Is it possible to use the compressed folders patch with maildir. What
happens than. Does every mail gets compressed, or how does this work
with maildir?

Thanks,
Manuel

Re: maildir and compressed folders

[David Champion]

On 2001.10.18, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Manuel Hendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to use the compressed folders patch with maildir. What
> happens than. Does every mail gets compressed, or how does this work
> with maildir?

This patch really isn't particular to compression; it creates hooks
for commands to execute before opening and after closing a folder. The
default hooks are for compression of an mbox file, but it seems you
could reset them as a tar+gz command instead, and store your maildir as
a compressed tarball. (You could also compress each message within, but
I'd personally favor the tarball.) It's just a matter of writing the
correct open/close hooks.

One of these days I'm going to get around to using it for encrypting
certain folders.

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Re: maildir and compressed folders

[David T-G]

Manuel --

...and then Manuel Hendel said...
% Is it possible to use the compressed folders patch with maildir. What
% happens than. Does every mail gets compressed, or how does this work
% with maildir?

The way the compressed folder is recognized is through hooks.  For an
mbox folder doing compression, I have

  # compressed folders
  open-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -cd %f > %t"
  open-hook \\.z$ "gzip -cd %f > %t"
  close-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -c %t > %f"
  close-hook \\.z$ "gzip -c %t > %f"
  append-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -c %t >> %f"
  append-hook \\.z$ "gzip -c %t >> %f"

in my muttrc file.  As you can see, mutt knows what to do with a *.gz or
*.z file based on the open- and close- and append- hooks.

You should be able to define your hooks any way you wish for your
maildir.  I'd imagine you'd probably use tar with gzip to bundle and
compress the whole thing something like

  open-hook \\.tar.gz$ "cd /tmp ; tar xpfz %f"
  close-hook \\.tar\\.gz$ "cd /tmp ; tar cpfz %f %t"

(though this is untested and I certainly don't know how mutt will handle
the temp dir and the file names and the real location path just for
starters) to tell mutt how to open a .tar.gz box (go to the temp dir
and extract from the actual file) and then close it later (go to the
temp dir and tar up the real file with what's in the temp file).

In theory, you should be able to open and/or close and/or append any sort
of mailbox this way; one idea that has crossed my mind is a encrypted
mail folder (tar.pgp) but I haven't played with it and it requires an
unencrypted temp file anyway...

% 
% Thanks,
% Manuel


HTH & HAND

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Re: mbox problem

[David T-G]

Manuel --

...and then Manuel Hendel said...
% Hallo,

Hello again!


% 
% I'm using the maildir mailbox format since today. I'm also using
% procmail to filter my mails in different folders. Now I want that the

Good!


% read mails of some folders go in one mbox and some others in another
% mbox. I tried mbox-hook and folder-hook. But it didn't work. Has
% anybody an idea how this could work?

I, for one, don't know that I really understand your question...  Can you
provide some examples of what you'd like to have happen and what really
happens as well as the relevant portion(s) of your .muttrc file?


% 
% Thanks,
% Manuel


HTH & HAND

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mbox question

[Norm Matloff]

I'm a big fan of mutt, and have a small Web tutorial on it, at

   http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/mutt.html 

In my tutorial, which I wrote several years ago, I say:

   If  you  wish  to not have your messages moved from your original
   mail file, then include something like this:

  set mbox="/var/mail/matloff"
   
   depending on where your original mail file is.

In the current version of mutt, is this still the best way to avoid
having marked-as-read messges moved to a separate mbox file?  I've
looked at the documentation and it *appears* to me that the answer is
yes, but I'd like to make sure.

I am not a subscriber to the mutt mailing list, so please reply to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks very much.

Norm Matloff

Re: maildir and compressed folders

[Dan Boger]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 03:11:26PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> In theory, you should be able to open and/or close and/or append any sort
> of mailbox this way; one idea that has crossed my mind is a encrypted
> mail folder (tar.pgp) but I haven't played with it and it requires an
> unencrypted temp file anyway...

nod... I used to do that for a while - the folders would get unencrypted
while you were reading them, but if someone got hold of your machine,
they wouldn't be able to access any (closed) folders...

the only "problem" was in appending msgs to mailboxes, since it had to
unencrypt/reencrypt, instead of just appending, like you can do with
gzip...

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Re: mbox problem

[Vineet Kumar]

* Manuel Hendel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011018 11:50]:
> Hallo,
> 
> I'm using the maildir mailbox format since today. I'm also using
> procmail to filter my mails in different folders. Now I want that the
> read mails of some folders go in one mbox and some others in another
> mbox. I tried mbox-hook and folder-hook. But it didn't work. Has
> anybody an idea how this could work?

You just need mbox-hook. This is exactly what it's there for. From TFM:

  3.10.  Using Multiple spool mailboxes

  Usage: mbox-hook [!]pattern mailbox

  This command is used to move read messages from a specified mailbox to
  a different mailbox automatically when you quit or change folders.
  pattern is a regular expression specifying the mailbox to treat as a
  ``spool'' mailbox and mailbox specifies where mail should be saved
  when read.

  Unlike some of the other hook commands, only the first matching
  pattern is used (it is not possible to save read mail in more than a
  single mailbox).

Maybe you could show us the mbox-hook command you tried and we can help
figure out why it didn't seem to be working.

good times,

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Re: mbox question

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Norm Matloff  [18/10/01 11:54 -0700]:
> I'm a big fan of mutt, and have a small Web tutorial on it, at
>http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/mutt.html 
> In my tutorial, which I wrote several years ago, I say:
>If  you  wish  to not have your messages moved from your original
>mail file, then include something like this:
>   set mbox="/var/mail/matloff"

set move=no

> I am not a subscriber to the mutt mailing list, so please reply to me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks very much.

BTW, your howtos are the first thing I point newbies at.  They are excellent.

--srs

Re: mbox problem

[Manuel Hendel]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 03:13:36PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> Manuel --
> 
> ...and then Manuel Hendel said...
> % Hallo,
> 
> Hello again!
> 
> 
> % 
> % I'm using the maildir mailbox format since today. I'm also using
> % procmail to filter my mails in different folders. Now I want that the
> 
> Good!
> 
> 
> % read mails of some folders go in one mbox and some others in another
> % mbox. I tried mbox-hook and folder-hook. But it didn't work. Has
> % anybody an idea how this could work?
> 
> I, for one, don't know that I really understand your question...  Can you
> provide some examples of what you'd like to have happen and what really
> happens as well as the relevant portion(s) of your .muttrc file?
> 
I got the following mailboxes:

set folder=~/Mail

~/Mail/mailinglists/mutt# for mutt mailinglist
~/Mail/mailinglists/postfix # for postfix mailinglist
~/Mail/maildir  # for privat mails

~/Mail/archiv/  # a folder to archive mails

I need the following mbox-hooks:

mbox-hook mailinglists/mutt archiv/mutt
mbox-hook mailinglists/postfix archiv/postfix
mbox-hook maildir archiv/maildir


I hope this is what you mean.

Re: Converting from mbox -> Maildir/

[Manuel Hendel]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 03:31:34PM +0200, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 07:08:43PM -0400, Kyle Knack wrote:
> > If you're using multiple Maildirs, such as with procmail, you also may
> > want to do 'cat mbox|formail -i|procmail' after you have updated your
> 
> This is not working for me. If I execute the same as shown above, I
> just get the formail help page.

I used 'cat mbox| formail -s procmail', this works.
> 
> > .procmailrc to filter to the new Maildirs.  This is how I did mine, and
> > it worked fine.  It also retains your mbox completely intact just in
> > case something goes wrong ;)
> > 
> > Kyle
> > 
> > * Nelson D. Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010806 16:19]:
> > >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:15:01 -0400
> > >From: "Nelson D. Guerrero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Mutt Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: Converting from mbox -> Maildir/
> > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i
> > >
> > >* On Mon Aug 06, Jean-Sebastien Morisset wrote in [mutt-users]: 
> > >-> I've been using mutt v1.2.5 in mbox mode for a while now (500MB for
> > >-> ~/Mail), but for compatibility reasons, I have to start using Maildir.
> > >-> Does anyone know how I can convert all my mbox directories and files to
> > >-> the Maildir format? I have quite a few directories, sub-directories, etc.
> > >-> 
> > >-> Thanks,
> > >-> js.
> > >-> -- 
> > >-> Jean-Sebastien Morisset, Sr. UNIX Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >-> Personal Homepage ; UNIX, Internet, 
> > >-> Homebrewing, Cigars, PCS, PalmOS, CP2020 and other Fun Stuff...
> > >-> This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows NT reboot!
> > >->
> > >
> > >I made this change a couple of weeks ago using: 
> > >
> > >http://www.qmail.org/mbox2maildir
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Nelson D. Guerrero
> > >
> > 
> > -- 
> > Kyle Knack
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Error opeining terminal:

[Dan]

I have been trying to install mutt with no success.
Running hp-ux 10.20 on 9000/725
My default terminal is 'hpterm' but I have
tried vt100 and xterm.
In all cases the mutt returns an error
'Error opening terminal: '
Any ideas on what to try.

Thanks,

Dan

Re: mbox problem

[Vineet Kumar]

* Manuel Hendel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011018 12:52]:
> I got the following mailboxes:
> 
> set folder=~/Mail
> 
> ~/Mail/mailinglists/mutt# for mutt mailinglist
> ~/Mail/mailinglists/postfix # for postfix mailinglist
> ~/Mail/maildir  # for privat mails
> 
> ~/Mail/archiv/  # a folder to archive mails
> 
> I need the following mbox-hooks:
> 

change these

> mbox-hook mailinglists/mutt archiv/mutt
> mbox-hook mailinglists/postfix archiv/postfix
> mbox-hook maildir archiv/maildir

to these:

mbox-hook mailinglists/mutt =archiv/mutt
mbox-hook mailinglists/postfix =archiv/postfix
mbox-hook maildir =archiv/maildir

the '=' sign is expanded to $folder. otherwise the directories are
relative the current working directory, which could be anything.

good times,

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Re: Temporarily deactivate auto_view

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 09:28:51AM +0200, Volker Moell (dis)graced my inbox with:
> Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> > Also, what is the _effective_ difference between sourcing a file, and
> > writing some kind of mutt-script to toggle a bunch of options? I don't
> > actually see one :)
> 
> I think: way better clearness.

Well, you could write comments in your .muttrc that explain what the
sourced files do.

> See for example the following situation: Using different identities via
> 
>macro index   ":source ~/.mutt/private.rc\n"
>macro index   ":source ~/.mutt/business.rc\n"
>
> (I don't like folder-hooks for that).  Because I need another default
> send-hook in each of my identities, I have to put all my send-hooks into
> both of these .rc files (together with the "unhook send-hook" at the
> beginning of these .rc files).  Some of these hooks are the same, and I
> didn't want to edit two files parallel, so I make another one
> general-hooks.rc which is sourced in the identity .rc's. And so on an so
> on...
> 
> Sometimes I'm just wondering, if I have set or unset some feature.  To
> have a single muttrc (IMHO) would be more comfortable to have an
> overview to all.  When "debugging" your mutt configuration you have to
> go through a lot of files in the worst case - I don't really like this.
> When asking friends for help on some mutt questions, I would rather send
> them "my muttrc" instead of a huge tarball.
> 
> In bash & friends.  you have the possibility to source lot's of files,
> too.  But do you split off your ~/.bashrc into a dozen or more pieces?
> I don't.

You don't _have_ to split up your .muttrc. It's just a feature, and it
has it's uses. Personally my .muttrc is only split into three pieces:
One for all the general options and such that are loaded with mutt, one
with my aliases, and one with some scripts that need to be run often (a
script for generating some headers, etc).

> When supporting scripting options (variables, "if"), (at least) I would
> write my muttrc a little bit better readable, and better debuggable.

I suppose so. You say potato, I say potahto :)

> > Mutt is perfect the way it is, IMNSHO :)
> 
> I don't think it's perfect.  It's just good. :-)

Well, it's supposed to suck less than the other mail clients, right? :)

> And I really don't want to start another fame war (I think there were a
> lot about it) - this should only be my very-IMHO-answer of your question.

Ack, flame wars not good. I don't want a flame war, this is a friendly
discussion :)

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Re: Error opeining terminal:

[Thomas Dickey]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 01:05:20PM -0700, Dan wrote:
> 
> I have been trying to install mutt with no success.
> Running hp-ux 10.20 on 9000/725
> My default terminal is 'hpterm' but I have
> tried vt100 and xterm.
> In all cases the mutt returns an error
> 'Error opening terminal: '
> Any ideas on what to try.

you didn't tell what screen library you're using (HP curses, HP color-curses,
ncurses or slang).  Generally HPUX uses terminfo under curses - chattr can
show what shared libraries are used.  I'd do a strings of mutt and the
related libraries (if it wasn't apparent), looking for terminfo or termcap.

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Re: IMAP subfolder update flag

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:58:00AM -0400, David T-G (dis)graced my inbox with:
> % > Just adding the subfolders to your mailboxes list works fine -- I used
> % > Mutt with IMAP for months after sorting server-side with procmail.
> % 
> % That doesn't work for local mbox folders, though :)
> 
> Why not?

Whoops, perhaps I was not clear. Procmail works fine, what I meant was,
simply defining an mbox with the mailbox command doesn't work, because
when you leave a folder with new mail, mutt forgets about it. And I feel
that mutt not telling me I have new mail when I do have new mail is a
problem :P

> % If you leave a folder with new messages, mutt will 'forget' that there
> % are new messages in it -- very annoying.
> 
> No, no, no...  You're confusing your definition of "new" with mutt's
> definition of "new" again.  Until Steven says he means something else,
> we'll assume that he's doing it our way :-)

I know very well that mutt and I disagree on what is new mail and what
isn't. I also happen to know that I'm right, mutt is wrong, and I can
trick mutt into agreeing with me. :D

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Re: my_hdr From: problems

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:47:20PM -0500, Drew Raines (dis)graced my inbox with:
> * Not Even My Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > my_hdr From: Not Even My Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> But why can't I use the other style?  Elkins uses it in the 1.2.5
> documentation every time he mentions an alias or my_hdr.
> 
> Technically I should be able to put whatever I want, no?  It shouldn't even
> have to include an email address...
> 
> -- 
> Drew

Actually, there is a variable that you use to set your From: header. Let
me see if I can dig it up...

set from="Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

:D

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Re: mbox problem

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:35:38PM -0700, Vineet Kumar (dis)graced my inbox with:
> * Manuel Hendel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011018 11:50]:
> > Hallo,
> > 
> > I'm using the maildir mailbox format since today. I'm also using
> > procmail to filter my mails in different folders. Now I want that the
> > read mails of some folders go in one mbox and some others in another
> > mbox. I tried mbox-hook and folder-hook. But it didn't work. Has
> > anybody an idea how this could work?
> 
> You just need mbox-hook. This is exactly what it's there for. From TFM:
> 
>   3.10.  Using Multiple spool mailboxes
> 
>   Usage: mbox-hook [!]pattern mailbox
> 
>   This command is used to move read messages from a specified mailbox to
>   a different mailbox automatically when you quit or change folders.
>   pattern is a regular expression specifying the mailbox to treat as a
>   ``spool'' mailbox and mailbox specifies where mail should be saved
>   when read.
> 
>   Unlike some of the other hook commands, only the first matching
>   pattern is used (it is not possible to save read mail in more than a
>   single mailbox).
> 
> Maybe you could show us the mbox-hook command you tried and we can help
> figure out why it didn't seem to be working.

I think the problem is that he's trying to use mbox-hooks for maildir
folders, and I'm not sure that that works. they are _mbox_-hooks, after
all :)

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conditional options in .muttrc

[Michael P. Soulier]

Hey people. 

I'm mounting the same home directory on several *nix boxes at work, and
there are a few options in my .muttrc that I'd like to be set depending on my
platform. I can take the output of a uname -s in a script and control most
options that way, but is there a built-in way for conditional options in my
.muttrc?

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: Tag Multiple Attachments?

[John P. Verel]

That's what I do.  All that happens is the cursor moves to the next file
name.

The manual notes that typing upper case A allows for tagging and
attaching multiple messages (not files) and that works for me.  The
manual makes no mention of tagging files...only messages.

So, no luck here so far.
On 10/17/01, 05:43:40PM -0700, Igor Pruchanskiy wrote:
> On Wed 17 Oct 2001, John P. Verel wrote:
> > Hi.  I sometimes want to attach multiple files from the same directory.
> > I've tried to tag while in the attachment menu, but no luck.  Couldn't
> > find anything in the on-line help.  The ? indicated t for tag in the
> > attachment menu.  What am I missing.
> 
> just hit "t" to tag an attachment, just like you tag messages
> 
> igor
> 
> -- 
> Uptime:  45 days, 17:57

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Re: Tag Multiple Attachments?

[MuttER]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:20:41PM -0400, John P. Verel wrote:
> That's what I do.  All that happens is the cursor moves to the next file
> name.
> 
> The manual notes that typing upper case A allows for tagging and
> attaching multiple messages (not files) and that works for me.  The
> manual makes no mention of tagging files...only messages.
> 
> So, no luck here so far.
> On 10/17/01, 05:43:40PM -0700, Igor Pruchanskiy wrote:
> > On Wed 17 Oct 2001, John P. Verel wrote:
> > > Hi.  I sometimes want to attach multiple files from the same directory.
> > > I've tried to tag while in the attachment menu, but no luck.  Couldn't
> > > find anything in the on-line help.  The ? indicated t for tag in the
> > > attachment menu.  What am I missing.
> > 
> > just hit "t" to tag an attachment, just like you tag messages
> > 
> 
---end quoted text---

Works for me, don't even need 'upper case A'.  Lower case works fine, can
tag 't' individual, also 'T' by pattern.  MD 8+,  Linux 2.4.3-20mdk & mutt 1.3.23i
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Re: Tag Multiple Attachments?

[Shawn D. McPeek]

Perhaps your "t" is bound to something other than tag-entry.  Perhaps
you're hitting q instead of  after tagging.  When you tag files,
it should place a * next to the listed permissions.  Does it at least do
that?  If not, your t is probably wrong.  If so, then just hit enter after
tagging everything and you should be good to go.

Shawn

Previously, John P. Verel wrote:
% That's what I do.  All that happens is the cursor moves to the next file
% name.
% 
% The manual notes that typing upper case A allows for tagging and
% attaching multiple messages (not files) and that works for me.  The
% manual makes no mention of tagging files...only messages.
% 
% So, no luck here so far.
% On 10/17/01, 05:43:40PM -0700, Igor Pruchanskiy wrote:
% > On Wed 17 Oct 2001, John P. Verel wrote:
% > > Hi.  I sometimes want to attach multiple files from the same directory.
% > > I've tried to tag while in the attachment menu, but no luck.  Couldn't
% > > find anything in the on-line help.  The ? indicated t for tag in the
% > > attachment menu.  What am I missing.
% > 
% > just hit "t" to tag an attachment, just like you tag messages

Re: Tag Multiple Attachments?

[John P. Verel]

Well, I just tried something, with interesting result.  I went to the
attach menu and pressed t twice.  No * showed up next to the files when
I typed t.  BUTwhen I went back to the compose menu, the tagged
files showed up in the attachments section.  So... the problem is
that the * is not showing up in the attachment menu.  I'll have a look
at the menu in the morning to see about this.  But if anyone has a
suggestion on changing the way the attachment screen is laid out, I'd
love to hear it!

Thanks.

John
On 10/18/01, 08:31:43PM -0700, Shawn D. McPeek wrote:
> 
> Perhaps your "t" is bound to something other than tag-entry.  Perhaps
> you're hitting q instead of  after tagging.  When you tag files,
> it should place a * next to the listed permissions.  Does it at least do
> that?  If not, your t is probably wrong.  If so, then just hit enter after
> tagging everything and you should be good to go.
> 
> Shawn
> 
> Previously, John P. Verel wrote:
> % That's what I do.  All that happens is the cursor moves to the next file
> % name.
> % 
> % The manual notes that typing upper case A allows for tagging and
> % attaching multiple messages (not files) and that works for me.  The
> % manual makes no mention of tagging files...only messages.
> % 
> % So, no luck here so far.
> % On 10/17/01, 05:43:40PM -0700, Igor Pruchanskiy wrote:
> % > On Wed 17 Oct 2001, John P. Verel wrote:
> % > > Hi.  I sometimes want to attach multiple files from the same directory.
> % > > I've tried to tag while in the attachment menu, but no luck.  Couldn't
> % > > find anything in the on-line help.  The ? indicated t for tag in the
> % > > attachment menu.  What am I missing.
> % > 
> % > just hit "t" to tag an attachment, just like you tag messages

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Re: conditional options in .muttrc

[David T-G]

Michael --

...and then Michael P. Soulier said...
% Hey people. 
% 
% I'm mounting the same home directory on several *nix boxes at work, and
% there are a few options in my .muttrc that I'd like to be set depending on my
% platform. I can take the output of a uname -s in a script and control most
% options that way, but is there a built-in way for conditional options in my
% .muttrc?

Not really -- a mutt scripting language has been discussed many times
before, and may actually come to fruition one day -- but you can
reference shell environment variables in your muttrc file.  At the very
least you could have your main muttrc include a

  source $HOME/.mutt/muttrc-$MACHNAME

where you set MACHNAME in your .profile or .login; you might even be able
to directly use

  source $HOME/.mutt/muttrc-`uname -n`

and skip the env var (but then run the uname command every time you read
your muttrc; you may be obsessive enough, as am I, to want to avoid that
extra few microseconds ;-)


% 
% Thanks,

HTH & HAND


% 
% Mike
% 
% -- 
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% "Pretty soon, massive bloat is the industry standard and everyone is using
% huge, buggy programs not even their developers can love."
% -Eric S. Raymond, The Art of Unix Programming




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Re: IMAP subfolder update flag

[David T-G]

Rob --

...and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park said...
% On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:58:00AM -0400, David T-G (dis)graced my inbox with:
% > % > Just adding the subfolders to your mailboxes list works fine -- I used
% > % > Mutt with IMAP for months after sorting server-side with procmail.
% > % 
% > % That doesn't work for local mbox folders, though :)
% > 
% > Why not?
% 
% Whoops, perhaps I was not clear. Procmail works fine, what I meant was,
% simply defining an mbox with the mailbox command doesn't work, because

Ah.


% when you leave a folder with new mail, mutt forgets about it. And I feel

Ahem...


% that mutt not telling me I have new mail when I do have new mail is a
% problem :P

If that were really the case, I'd agree :-)


% 
% > % If you leave a folder with new messages, mutt will 'forget' that there
% > % are new messages in it -- very annoying.
% > 
% > No, no, no...  You're confusing your definition of "new" with mutt's
% > definition of "new" again.  Until Steven says he means something else,
% > we'll assume that he's doing it our way :-)
% 
% I know very well that mutt and I disagree on what is new mail and what
% isn't. I also happen to know that I'm right, mutt is wrong, and I can
% trick mutt into agreeing with me. :D

*snort*  You mean you know that mutt is right but you abuse its forgiving
capabilities to make it give you what you want even if it's outside of
the design spec ;-)


% 
% -- 
% Rob 'Feztaa' Park
% [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% --
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Ain't that the truth!


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pgp-hook again

[David T-G]

Hi, all --

I'm trying to figure out how to avoid the wait for gpg to parse a key
with a jillion UID entries on it and would like to not have to select the
keyid every time for common encrypted-mail recipients at all.  It is my
understanding that pgp-hook is used to associate an address or pattern
with a keyid, like

  pgp-hook kielsky 0x96C0E973   # use this key of Michael's
  pgp-hook gee_nome 0xBA9603A6  # steve rowe's key

or so.  When I send encrypted mail I'm usually asked to pick the key, and
when I send to either of these I immediately get "Use KeyID ..." -- but
when I respond 'y' it still goes looking for keys that match and gives me
the list.

How can I have mutt pick the key for me and just get on with business?


TIA & HAND

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Re: mbox problem

[Manuel Hendel]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 03:07:42PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Manuel Hendel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011018 12:52]:
> > I got the following mailboxes:
> > 
> > set folder=~/Mail
> > 
> > ~/Mail/mailinglists/mutt# for mutt mailinglist
> > ~/Mail/mailinglists/postfix # for postfix mailinglist
> > ~/Mail/maildir  # for privat mails
> > 
> > ~/Mail/archiv/  # a folder to archive mails
> > 
> > I need the following mbox-hooks:
> > 
> 
> change these
> 
> > mbox-hook mailinglists/mutt archiv/mutt
> > mbox-hook mailinglists/postfix archiv/postfix
> > mbox-hook maildir archiv/maildir
> 
> to these:
> 
> mbox-hook mailinglists/mutt =archiv/mutt
> mbox-hook mailinglists/postfix =archiv/postfix
> mbox-hook maildir =archiv/maildir
> 
> the '=' sign is expanded to $folder. otherwise the directories are
> relative the current working directory, which could be anything.
> 
> good times,
> 
I tried it this way, but mutt said "~/Mail/archiv/mutt is not a
mailbox". Where's the problem. I can't get it.
I also tried another way, using folder-hooks, this works for
"maildir", but not for "mailinglists/mutt", mutt doesn't even say
anything.

Manuel

Re: Temporarily deactivate auto_view

[Volker Moell]

Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
>
> You don't _have_ to split up your .muttrc. It's just a feature, and it
> has it's uses.

Well, really? This would be great for me. But I don't know how to write
only one muttrc when switching my digfferent identity settings on pres-
sing a key (F11/F12).  Is there really a mechanism to do this *without*
sourcing separate files?


> I suppose so. You say potato, I say potahto :)

And you like tomato, and I like tomahto. ;-)


> > > Mutt is perfect the way it is, IMNSHO :)
> > I don't think it's perfect.  It's just good. :-)
> Well, it's supposed to suck less than the other mail clients, right? :)

Way, indeed! This is the reason for switching to mutt a few months ago.

-volker

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Re: Temporarily deactivate auto_view

[Christoph Maurer]

Am Fre, 19 Okt 2001, schrieb Volker Moell:

> Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> >
> > You don't _have_ to split up your .muttrc. It's just a feature, and it
> > has it's uses.
> 
> Well, really? This would be great for me. But I don't know how to write
> only one muttrc when switching my digfferent identity settings on pres-
> sing a key (F11/F12).  Is there really a mechanism to do this *without*
> sourcing separate files?
> 
> 

I don't know, what settings you change, I presume, From: and
signature.

You could do this with a macro.

macro index  ":my_hdr From:...\n:set signature=\n"

Christoph



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