strange 0.95.5i behaviour and a bug
After I upgraded to mutt-0.95.5i (redhat-6.0), I have problems: Every time I have written a message and press 'y' to send it, mutt asks: Append messages to /usr/local/home/unitfj/Mail/outbox? ([y]/n): If I answer no, nothing happens. I must answer yes to get the message sent. BUG: If I instead press ^g, the subject line converts to quoted printables if I have eight bit characters in it. Pressing ^g again makes the subject line longer than it was. (And so on). As you expect, I have a line in .muttrc saying set record=+outbox -- Med venlig hilsen / Regards Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group UNI-C Tlf./Phone +45 35 87 89 41Mail: UNI-C Fax. +45 35 87 89 90 Bygning 304 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DK-2800 Lyngby
Re: fortune sig
> Thanks everyone for the help! > For now... Ive chosen the above method and as we can see it works ;) There is some sort of convention that .sigs are separated from the body by "-- " (dash dash space), and that .sigs should not be longer than 4 lines.
Re: fortune sig
Quoting our friend --> Lars Hecking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Thanks everyone for the help! > > For now... Ive chosen the above method and as we can see it works ;) > > There is some sort of convention that .sigs are separated from the body > by "-- " (dash dash space), and that .sigs should not be longer than > 4 lines. > With all respect Lars...Am I doing something wrong? Frankly my rationaile is that quite often, inexperienced users will quote the entire message and often much unrelated (to the point at hand) text from previous messages. So... Also in todays age of superfast connections that my preference for an entertaining quote from fortune isnt too much to ask. Is it? Particullary that my sig is non commercial useful and now... entertaining ;-) Afterall this is the internet, where Im sure there are better things to foucus on then a "fortune" being generated by my Linux system Sincerely rob (of course correct me if Im misguided) -- Linux Home Page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 -IRC- #suse efnet >Mail via Mutt< Famous, adj.: Conspicuously miserable. -- Ambrose Bierce
Re: fortune sig
On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 11:33:35AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 31 lines To mutt: > Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:33:35 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: mutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: fortune sig > > Quoting our friend --> Lars Hecking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Thanks everyone for the help! > > > For now... Ive chosen the above method and as we can see it works ;) > > > > There is some sort of convention that .sigs are separated from the body > > by "-- " (dash dash space), and that .sigs should not be longer than > > 4 lines. > > > With all respect Lars...Am I doing something wrong? Not wrong, no. But some people get annoyed about it. > Particullary that my sig is > non commercial > useful > and now... entertaining ;-) Yes, but if I was you, I would you fortunes' "short" option. regards. Gerrit. -- The Dutch Linuxgames website. De Nederlandse Linuxgames pagina. Everything about games on Linux.Alles over spelletjes onder Linux. Site address: http://linuxgames.nl.linux.org Personal homepage: http://nl.linux.org/~gerrit/
Re: fortune sig
++ 30/05/99 11:33 -0400 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >Frankly my rationaile is that quite often, inexperienced users will >quote the entire message and often much unrelated (to the point at >hand) text from previous messages. So... I don't understand exactly what you meant here. Are you saying that others often quote badly (too much, entire message, sigs) and therefor we should not mention the length of your signature? He's doing worse so don't tell me i'm doing bad? >Also in todays age of superfast connections that my preference for an >entertaining quote from fortune isnt too much to ask. Is it? Yes it is. Because this argument is also used for html and binary postings (in email and on Usenet). I have several ways to connect to the internet, but both my mail- and newsserver are connected via a 28k8 modem. I have to pay for my downloads (i live in Holland, i have to pay my telco for being connected to my isp). Bad quoting, html, binaries and (to a certain extend) signatures all make me pay for things i did not want and which are useless to me. I know, not all the mails are that informative, but a signature is appended every time. And again. Maybe you have a 'superfast connection', others don't. >Particullary that my sig is >non commercial >useful >and now... entertaining ;-) I wouldn't mind what's in your sig. Signatures should be judge on form, not on content. I don't care if you put a commercial message, the phone number of your mother-in-law, icq numbers or whatever in your sig, but i do care when it comes to the size. By the way, what i couldn't find anything 'useful' in your signature. The url could be, but i haven't seen your page yet. >Afterall this is the internet, where Im sure there are better things to foucus >on then a "fortune" being generated by my Linux system Yes... afterall this is the internet, where i'm sure there are better things to to download from. A signature is maximum 80 by 4 characters in size, and should begin with a sig-delimiter (dash-dash-space). -Rejo. -- = Rejo [Sister Ray Crisiscentrum][EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://mediaport.org/~sister PGP: RSA FAE40065, DSS/DH 2C8059B5 --
compressed folders + IMAP ?
I've become addicted to compressed folders (bzip2'd folders even), and would like to migrate my mail over to IMAP as well, but from what I've seen it's not possible to do compressed folders over IMAP. Has anybody gotten this to work? Is it even possible to do within the IMAP protocol? TIA .adam -- Adam Lazur - Computer Engineering Undergrad - Lehigh University icq# 3354423 - http://www.lehigh.edu/~ajl4 "Imagination is more important than knowledge" -Albert Einstien
Re: fortune sig
Quoting our friend --> Rejo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ++ 30/05/99 11:33 -0400 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >Frankly my rationaile is that quite often, inexperienced users will > >quote the entire message and often much unrelated (to the point at > >hand) text from previous messages. So... > > I don't understand exactly what you meant here. Are you saying that > others often quote badly (too much, entire message, sigs) and therefor > we should not mention the length of your signature? He's doing worse so > don't tell me i'm doing bad? Yes, Im saying others *often* quote badly maybe not here.. but there is plenty of bad quoting. Now- does that justify my argument? probably not. But it does and can rationalise it a bit. It seems to me though that some people *look* for something trivial to point out especially to someone who may listen to the argument. > > >Also in todays age of superfast connections that my preference for an > >entertaining quote from fortune isnt too much to ask. Is it? > > Yes it is. Because this argument is also used for html and binary > postings (in email and on Usenet). I have several ways to connect to the > internet, but both my mail- and newsserver are connected via a 28k8 > modem. I have to pay for my downloads (i live in Holland, i have to pay > my telco for being connected to my isp). > Well *sigh* I cant please all people in all circumstances > Bad quoting, html, binaries and (to a certain extend) signatures all > make me pay for things i did not want and which are useless to me. I > know, not all the mails are that informative, but a signature is > appended every time. And again. > Well then, I dont post bin or html so that puts me in the most trivial catagory, dosent it? > Maybe you have a 'superfast connection', others don't. > > >Particullary that my sig is > >non commercial > >useful > >and now... entertaining ;-) > > I wouldn't mind what's in your sig. Signatures should be judge on form, > not on content. I don't care if you put a commercial message, the phone > number of your mother-in-law, icq numbers or whatever in your sig, but i > do care when it comes to the size. > trivial matter > By the way, what i couldn't find anything 'useful' in your signature. > The url could be, but i haven't seen your page yet. > hah! contempt before investigation? Id suggest you look at my page btw its very non-graphical so It wont take long to view and I *will argue vehemently* as to its usefulness > >Afterall this is the internet, where Im sure there are better things to foucus > >on then a "fortune" being generated by my Linux system > > Yes... afterall this is the internet, where i'm sure there are better > things to to download from. > > A signature is maximum 80 by 4 characters in size, and should begin with > a sig-delimiter (dash-dash-space). hehehe... so your the internet police now? maybe you should send a letter to my provider ;-) comon... take it easy, in fact the sig is random (something I love) Now- I really dont want this to blow out of porpotion so this should hopefully be the last responce I send have fun rob -- Linux Home Page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 -IRC- #suse efnet >-=-=-=-=-=--List Archive is my current work in progress--=-=-=-=-=-=-< S.u.S.E List Archive http://members.xoom.com/dizzy73/suse/Index.Html >Mail via Mutt< OMNIVERSAL AWARENESS?? Oh, YEH!! First you need four GALLONS of JELL-O and a BIG WRENCH!! ... I think you drop th' WRENCH in the JELL-O as if it was a FLAVOR, or an INGREDIENT ... or ... I ... um ... WHERE'S the WASHING MACHINES?
fortunes ig - solved!
All Ive remidied a sloution so as not to offend anyone here first I dont post here often because Im new with mutt however to keep *everyone* happy I will hand edit any long fortunes fair enough? rob -- Linux Home Page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 -IRC- #suse efnet >-=-=-=-=-=--List Archive is my current work in progress--=-=-=-=-=-=-< S.u.S.E List Archive http://members.xoom.com/dizzy73/suse/Index.Html >Mail via Mutt< There is a great discovery still to be made in Literature: that of paying literary men by the quantity they do NOT write.
Re: fortune sig
At 3:11 PM EDT on May 30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent off: > Quoting our friend --> Rejo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ++ 30/05/99 11:33 -0400 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > >Frankly my rationaile is that quite often, inexperienced users will > > >quote the entire message and often much unrelated (to the point at > > >hand) text from previous messages. So... > > That's why the most important thing is to use "-- " as the signature delimiter so that signatures on messages that get quoted and passed on don't also get quoted and accumulate. Many people have their editor set to delete everything after the "-- " when quoting a message, even people who don't understand their editor well enough to trim things themselves. I see that you now use the proper delimiter, thanks. As far as the 4 line McQ limit, I often go over myself, because some good quotes happen to be long. But your "superfast connection" argument is specious. Please remember that when you post to a mailing list each line is multiplied and sent out to zillions of people from the list's server. Newsgroups are a somewhat more efficient medium...in fact there's one that would be perfect for this discussion: alt.fan.warlord -- "I never heard of anyone who was really literate or who ever really loved books who wanted to suppress any of them." - Robertson Davies Robert I. Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Re: compressed folders + IMAP ?
On Sun, 30 May 1999, Adam Lazur wrote: > I've become addicted to compressed folders (bzip2'd folders even), > and would like to migrate my mail over to IMAP as well, but from > what I've seen it's not possible to do compressed folders over IMAP. > Has anybody gotten this to work? Is it even possible to do within > the IMAP protocol? You ask this question in the wrong mailing list, because this is not a problem of the mail reader but the imap server. The imap server has to parse the mailfolder and offers the mailreader a list of mails, so the mailreader can order every single article. If you want to access a compressed folder via imap, the imap server needs to supply compressed folders support, so it can uncompress the folder and interact with the mailreader as with normal folders. I don't know whether there are imap servers supporting compressed folders. If this is the case you may have to make sure, that the compressed folders support in mutt is switched off, otherwise this could result in problems (didn't check this). Ciao Roland -- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.spinnaker.de/ * PGP: 1024/DD08DD6D 2D E7 CC DE D5 8D 78 BE 3C A0 A4 F1 4B 09 CE AF
Where to download urlview
I've never bothered to set up urlview but want to do so now. Unfortunately I can't find it. I've looked on www.mutt.org but can't find anywhere to download it and the link in the manual (ftp://ftp.cs.hmc.edu/pub/me/) gives me an error. Can anyone let me have a url for it? Thanks. -- Steve Crane [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec
Re: Replying with headers
Quoting our friend --> David Thorburn-Gundlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Gerritt -- > > ...and then Gerrit Holl said... > % Hello all, > % I've got a question about mutt and replying with headers. I want to see the > % headers, but not all of them. > > Do you mean that you want to see the headers while you're replying, or > that you want to see the headers while you're reading as well as > having a question about replying? > > > % > % What should I do? > > Well, I'm sure that there's an opportunity here to tell you to read > the manual, but I won't do that (oops!). > > To see the headers when you're replying (or composing in general), set > the edit_hdrs variable. To not see certain headers while reading, use > the ignore command. > > > % > % regards, > % Gerrit. > % -- > % The Dutch Linuxgames website. De Nederlandse Linuxgames pagina. > % Everything about games on Linux.Alles over spelletjes onder Linux. > % Site address: http://linuxgames.nl.linux.org > % Personal homepage: http://nl.linux.org/~gerrit/ > > > :-D > -- > David Thorburn-Gundlach * It's easier to fight for one's principles > (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie > (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helping out at Pfizer > http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! > "Why2k? Well, I didn't think at the time that I could charge any more!" > Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* > would this be as simple as typing h while viewing a message? rob -- Linux Home Page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 -IRC- #suse efnet >Mail via Mutt-<
double messages
Hi All I noticed when I posted my original message re fortune sig That I receeived double replies from all who responded. Not that it really bother me or anything... I just thought Id mention it. Also fwiw I dont think it a setting on my end because I retrieved the replies via my providers unix shell - from work - via pine. However today Ive received double messages from the responces this morning again the re fortune sig No biggie I just figgured Id mention it. Wishing all the Americans a happy and relaxing Memorial day! best regards rob (if you guys *do* think its a setting on my end please reply) -- Linux Home Page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 -IRC- #suse efnet >Mail via Mutt< OMNIVERSAL AWARENESS?? Oh, YEH!! First you need four GALLONS of JELL-O and a BIG WRENCH!! ... I think you drop th' WRENCH in the JELL-O as if it was a FLAVOR, or an INGREDIENT ... or ... I ... um ... WHERE'S the WASHING MACHINES?
Re: Where to download urlview
On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 11:15:06PM +0200, Steve Crane wrote: > I've never bothered to set up urlview but want to do so now. > Unfortunately I can't find it. I've looked on www.mutt.org but can't > find anywhere to download it and the link in the manual > (ftp://ftp.cs.hmc.edu/pub/me/) gives me an error. Can anyone let me > have a url for it? The FreeBSD port lists the following: MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.cs.hmc.edu/pub/me/ \ ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/net/mail/mutt/ \ ftp://ftp.ilog.fr/pub/Mirrors/mutt/contrib/ \ ftp://ftp.etri.re.kr/pub/mail/mutt/ \ ftp://ftp.pnm.net/pub/unix/mutt/contrib/ CU, Sec -- To paraphrase RFC1925: Time, talent, willingness: Pick any two.
Re: fortune sig
[Just to make clear, just for the case someone maybe understands me not the way i did not meant: english is not my first language, so somethings may sound rude or whatever, but wasn't meant like that. Please bear with me. By the way, i don't want to flame. These are just my opinions and i will explain if needed. But no offence or flames intended.] ++ 30/05/99 15:11 -0400 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >Yes, Im saying others *often* quote badly maybe not here.. but there is >plenty of bad quoting. Now- does that justify my argument? probably >not. Thanx you. >Well *sigh* I cant please all people in all circumstances I wasn't ask you for that. But, a small sig is part of the Nettiquetes and i therefor i think it is asked too much to keep a sig small (80x4). I wasn't asking you to please all people in all circumstances. I was just giving you reasons for a small sig. As said before, it is up to you to consider the arguments and to do something with it (or not). >Well then, I dont post bin or html so that puts me in the most trivial >catagory, dosent it? Yes. So what? Again, the fact that others do worse doesn't justify a long signature. Also. Maybe that wasn't clear. If someone sends me binaries or if someone post html to a mailinglist or Usenet newsgroup i will also tell the person it is a Bad Thing. I'm not objecting because of you. >> By the way, what i couldn't find anything 'useful' in your signature. >> The url could be, but i haven't seen your page yet. >> >hah! contempt before investigation? No. As i also sayd before, signatures should be judged by form, not content. It is the size that matters, not what's inside. >hehehe... so your the internet police now? maybe you should send a >letter to my provider ;-) No, there is no reason for it, is there? >comon... take it easy, in fact the sig is random (something I love) I take it easy. i was just giving my point of view (you asked what was wrong with your sig). If you don't change, it is your right and i will not neglect that. The fact that the sig is random may be nice (i have had a random sig for a long time as well), but it doesn't matter. It is content. [11 lines of signature snipped] Have a nice day... -Rejo. -- = Rejo [Sister Ray Crisiscentrum][EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://mediaport.org/~sister PGP: RSA FAE40065, DSS/DH 2C8059B5 --
