[MlMt] Clicking links in emails doesn't open them (Version 1.14 (5918))
I don’t know if anyone else is having this issue, but I upgraded to 5918 yesterday, and now when I click a link in a received email, nothing happens. The first time I clicked on a link, it opened in Safari as expected. But any other links don’t do anything. Is this a known issue with 5918? I’m on MacOS 12.5.1. Thanks! -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Clicking links in emails doesn't open them (Version 1.14 (5918))
Thanks Henry, Sam, & Richard for responding. Strangely the issue seems to have resolved itself. I’m not sure if restarting Safari or MailMate helped, but I can again click links in received messages and have them open. What a relief! -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Clicking links in emails doesn't open them (Version 1.14 (5918))
Harry, Thanks, I hadn’t thought to rebuild the database. As you say, since everything’s working I won’t do it now. But I’ve read through the help page about it in the hopes it’s now filed away in my brain for potential future troubleshooting! Thanks again, Jolin -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to get the ID of the message that was just sent?
On 27 Sep 2022, at 13:08, Jolin Warren wrote:
The trick is somehow writing an mmbundle (command) that can get the ID
of a message. It seems like something that should be simple, but I
have no idea how to write MailMate commands. Maybe someone else on
the list can provide the missing piece?
As a brief follow-up to my previous email, I had a quick look at the
bundle documentation. I’m still a long way off being able to create a
MailMate command, but I think what Robert needs could be achieved using
`formatString = “${message-id}”;` and combining it with the `pbcopy`
command line tool.
https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual/wiki/Bundles#formatstring-example
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Re: [MlMt] [MAYBE SPAM] Comments in MM .plist files?
You can put comments in the KeyBindings files using `/* comment */`.
Here’s the beginning of my keybinding file (I think originally based
on some MailMate template I found) and it works fine:
~~~
{
/*
* | Keybindings |
* | Shortcut | Code| Description |
* | | --- | --- |
* | a| a | - |
* | ⌃ a | ^a | Control-a |
* | ⌥ a | ~a | Option-a|
* | ⇧ a | A | Shift-a |
* | ⌘ a | @a | Command-a |
* | | | |
* | ⇧ F2 | $\UF705 | Shift-F2|
* | Num 2| #2 | 2 on numeric keypad |
*
* →The $ should only be used to bind to the shift key (⇧) for
‘special keys’ (that don’t have a character equivalent)
* →Note that the order of multiple modifiers is important. It must
be in this order: #^~$@
* →A list of funcion, arrow, etc keycodes can be found at
*
* MailMate selectors:
*
* Some selectors taken from
*
*/
"." = "toggleReadState:"; // toggle read/unread state (i.e. the
“//Seen” flag)
","= ( "markAsRead:", "nextMessage:" );
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Re: [MlMt] Clicking links in emails doesn't open them (Version 1.14 (5918))
A further update in case it’s of use for anyone in the future… I had to restart my Mac yesterday, and the problem with clicking links in MailMate returned. I have my apps set to relaunch after restart, so both MailMate and Safari had launched automatically. I manually quit and relaunched Safari, and the link clicking problem in MailMate went away. So it seems the issue is somehow caused by Safari, and something related to it launching at login time. I use Spaces and have noticed an oddity with all apps set to show in ‘all spaces’ if they launch at login, so it’s possible this is part of the same issue. In any case, it’s looks to me like an Apple bug (or issue on my system), not a MailMate bug. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Toggling between ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’
In the current version of MailMate, is there a way to toggle a reply between ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’ after I’ve started writing the message? I thought that in previous versions I could hit cmd-R repeatedly to toggle whether I was replying just to the sender or to everyone, but that doesn’t work now. I sometimes start a reply and then realise I meant to reply to everyone (or vice versa) and it’s cumbersome to have to copy, delete the reply, start a new one, and paste. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Naming smart mailboxes using the ${list-id.identifier} variable
I have a smart mailbox for mailing lists which uses
`${list-id.identifier.final-level}` as its name. I have a mailing list
with a list-id of `newsletter.comedy.co.uk.randomletters`. Right now the
mailbox displays as `newsletter` but I’d like it to be
`newsletter.comedy.co.uk` (without the random numbers), so I can’t
just use `${list-id.identifier}`. Is there a way for me to specify parts
of the list-id domain other than just the final level?
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Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu
I was expecting something to happen to the messages, not the mailbox icon! Didn’t even look there. If you tick the option at the bottom of the colour menu – `Use Colour in Message List` – then it will also colour the messages (while they are in that mailbox, it doesn’t change their colour if you move them elsewhere). -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Help extending Message View headers
Unfortunately, header customisation was lost when Benny started overhauling the way MailMate displays messages a year or two ago 😢 It will possibly return at some indeterminate point in the future. https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg14816.html -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Toggling between ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’
I meant to add to this… I’m also not seeing this on all replies. On _some_ of them, the reply arrow in the compose window is enabled, and some of them not. Regardless of the reply arrow, pressing cmd-R never works (I get a beep). I don’t use Gmail, just standard IMAP for all my accounts, and I can’t figure out any pattern. On 6 Oct 2022, at 2:24, Eric Sharakan wrote: Actually, I'm not seeing this issue on all replies I compose, only some of them. Other than the few examples where this is a problem all being in my gmail account, I can't seem to find any pattern. -Eric On 4 Oct 2022, at 20:18, Eric Sharakan wrote: I'm experiencing the same behavior as Jolin, on version 5920. The reply arrow in the compose window is grayed out and unclickable, and typing ⌘R just elicits an alert beep. -Eric On 3 Oct 2022, at 9:43, i...@techworkspro.com wrote: I get a popup every time I click either the arrow or ⌘ R. I can select either option in that window. FWIW… Would still prefer the old method of single or all direct selection. - - Please excuse the tttapping errors... Sent from my iPhone C/T (954) 253-4125 Henry M. Seiden Techworks Pro On Oct 3, 2022, at 09:38, Jolin Warren wrote: In the current version of MailMate, is there a way to toggle a reply between ‘Reply’ and ‘Reply All’ after I’ve started writing the message? I thought that in previous versions I could hit cmd-R repeatedly to toggle whether I was replying just to the sender or to everyone, but that doesn’t work now. I sometimes start a reply and then realise I meant to reply to everyone (or vice versa) and it’s cumbersome to have to copy, delete the reply, start a new one, and paste. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] counter colors
On 24 Jan 2023, at 4:53, John Cooper wrote:
I also occasionally use a Mac app called "Prefs Editor" to browse and
edit a .plist file. It's still available at
http://apps.tempel.org/PrefsEditor/.
Using Prefs Editor is actually the only reliable way to edit plist
contents without using the `defaults` terminal command. Although BBEdit
can open plist files (including binary ones), this is primarily useful
for inspecting them. As described on the Prefs Editor page, MacOS uses a
caching system for plist values that makes editing the plist files
directly unreliable:
Mac OS X 10.8 introduced a caching system for app preferences
("cfprefsd"). While this probably increases performances for apps, it
makes it harder for developers to manipulate preference values quickly
for testing, because making changes directly to the plist files in the
~/Library/Preferences folder does not work any more with editors such
as "Property List Editor.app" and the similar editor in Xcode. As of
now (Dec 14, 2013), the only way to edit such preferences is by using
the "defaults" command, which is rather difficult to use once it comes
to editing dict or array entries.
So if you want to play around with adjusting the counter colours, I
highly recommend downloading and using Prefs Editor.
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Re: [MlMt] Custom keybindings file
FWIW, I have always had a keybinding file that uses address@server UUIDs mapped to a single key and they work fine. However, the format of mine are slightly different from yours: ``` "2" = ( "goToMailbox:", "INBOX:jolinwarren%40oakandapple@mail.oakandapple.org" );``` Did you construct your IMAP UUID manually? I got mine by highlighting the mailbox in MailMate and pressing `cmd-C` (I suppose you could also choose `Copy` from the `Edit` menu). I think this is the recommended way of doing it, and when I try now it still creates a UUID as above. I’m currently on MailMate Version 1.14 (5942). -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keyboard shortcut to upgrade to pre-release not working
Late to the party, but I’m pretty sure this is the reason. I’m on r5950 and checking for a new Test Build tells me I’m on the latest one. Benny said in an earlier email that he hasn’t put anything newer into the test build release stream because of several crashing bugs (maybe now resolved?). Chris, since you’re ahead of the ‘latest’ Test Build, I’m not surprised it’s offering to downgrade you. This will probably be the case until something newer is released into the Test Build release stream. On 21 Mar 2023, at 1:07, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, a bit of a shot in the dark: could it be that because these are not "released" test builds from Benny, that the update check logic might not be working? Or perhaps it is working, but just wanting to downgrade you to r5950 (which is the latest "released" test build)? -Eric On 20 Mar 2023, at 20:47, Chris Jones wrote: I just tried creating another account on my Mac, this is a clean install I did a few days ago and the same thing occurred under this user account. It's a brand new user profile that doesn't have any legacy profile data laying around and Mailmate starts as if it's a new user. Not sure what to say at this point. Especially since I've updated Mailmate once since doing the fresh install. When I updated it I downloaded the latest test release from the updates archive page and replaced MailMate. So realistically it's a fresh copy of the application. 🤷 -C On 20 Mar 2023, at 17:20, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Do you have a way to try it either in a different user on the same machine or on a different machine to verify whether it’s the Mac hardware or the user settings causing this alone? I’m thinking it’s not MM. Hane not seen this reported by others and I have not had this ever. Although I do remember a different key combo bringing up the warning, just not which one (obviously not the one you are using apparently). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 19:30, Chris Jones wrote: Hey Henry, Thanks for your response and feedback. If I go to the menubar and click on MailMate and then hold down the ⌥ key, it changes from "Check for Update" to "Check for Test Build", so I know the ⌥ key is working as it should. But when I click on "Check for Test Build" after pressing the ⌥ key, I'm presented with the prompt: "**You are Using a Prerelease**". At the moment I've manually upgraded to version 5958 and yet I'm still seeing this which is strange as this never used to happen. -Chris On 20 Mar 2023, at 14:11, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Should be as you said, ⌥ + Menu> ‘Check Now’ dropdown. It works here in both release and beta for me in OS 13.2.1 and 13.3 on MM 1.14 5950 and later. Is your keyboard somehow buggered up gloving you the codes (maybe ⌘ instead?). You can bring up a layout screen to confirm. Open Keyboard Settings to check. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 15:46, Chris Jones wrote: I'm not sure if this has to do with restoring my Mac from a backup, but I'm not longer able to use the keyboard shortcut ⌥ + "Check Now" under the Software Update section of___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] local folders
On 19 Apr 2023, at 20:47, Randy Bush wrote: > i was hoping for something very simple to run on laptop for local-only use. > it'll take effort to configure dovecot as a simple local imap-only server. I’m quite late to this, so maybe not of use to you anymore… When I switched to MailMate, I wanted to keep my local folders so I set up Dovecot as a simple local IMAP-only server. I followed the instructions here and it was fairly low effort as I recall: https://xdeb.org/post/2014/running-dovecot-as-a-local-only-imap-server-on-os-x/ -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] local folders
On 31 May 2023, at 2:24, Pierre Igot wrote: > I wouldn’t describe it as “low effort” for Mac users who are not that > comfortable with Unix stuff. Agreed, comfort with the Unix underpinnings is likely needed. I was describing it as ‘low effort’ in the context of Randy saying, ‘i use dovecot on real servers’. On 31 May 2023, at 2:24, Pierre Igot wrote: > c) For the user name, the instructions say “Account ID: Whatever username you > like”, but it doesn’t specify if there is any connection to whatever the user > might have put in the “Email Address(es)” field above. > > d) The instructions don’t say if the SMTP server section can be left entirely > blank. (Again, “Require SSL” is checked by default.) If you ever look into this again, the email address and SMTP server are irrelevant as this account will never be used for sending messages. I’ve left both of mine blank. On 31 May 2023, at 9:16, Fredrik Jonsson wrote: > This has changed since I originally wrote the post in 2014 without me > noticing it. Removed it now, thanks. Fredrik, thank you both for writing the post originally and for keeping it up to date. I am indebted to you – it’s exactly what I needed to be able to switch to MailMate a few years ago, and I’m not sure I would have attempted setting up Dovecot without your guide. Thank you for taking the time to document it! -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Creating a folder to organise smart mailboxes in the "Mailboxes" section
Hello all, I’m currently in the process of moving from Mail to MailMate, and really liking the power of MailMate’s smart folders. The default set under the “Mailboxes” section includes two blue folders that group smart folders together: “All Messages” and “Examples”. I realise that “All Messages” is a special case, but is it possible to create another folder like “Examples” so I could group some of my smart mailboxes together? Thanks, Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Creating a folder to organise smart mailboxes in the "Mailboxes" section
Perfect, that did the trick. Thanks! -Jolin On 4 Jan 2021, at 16:13, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Make a new Smart Mailbox where you want it, and add nothing to it. Close it. Rename it to the name you want for your folder. It will behave like a folder. On 4 Jan 2021, at 11:00, Jolin Warren wrote: Hello all, I’m currently in the process of moving from Mail to MailMate, and really liking the power of MailMate’s smart folders. The default set under the “Mailboxes” section includes two blue folders that group smart folders together: “All Messages” and “Examples”. I realise that “All Messages” is a special case, but is it possible to create another folder like “Examples” so I could group some of my smart mailboxes together? Thanks, Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- Verdon Vaillancourt ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
On 13 Jan 2021, at 0:58, Randy Bush wrote: mm changed the displayed in gui From: (from ra...@arrcus.com to ra...@psg.com) when i typed the to: ra...@psg.com. This is likely because of the settings for “New Message” in the Composer preferences. If it’s set to “derived from context”, MM will change the from: address based on who you are sending to. I’m not sure the exact heuristics, whether it analyses past messages or is based on what you’ve typed in the to: field in the past.  You have the option to set an explicit account for all new messages to come from if you want. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] incorrect From:
On 14 Jan 2021, at 14:59, Niall O'Reilly wrote: On 14 Jan 2021, at 1:09, Randy Bush wrote: sigh. i will make this error time and again I sigh with you. As do I! As I’ve been trialling MailMate as a replacement for Apple Mail, this is one of the few issues I’ve had so far that I haven’t been able to solve. There’s so much that is great about MailMate that it’s not enough to stop me switching, but this could be a headache for me as I have several identities and quite a lot of email addresses. I can’t see how get MailMate to ‘reset’ what from address should be used for a particular (or several) recipient. Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] GPG not found
On 15 Jan 2021, at 5:48, Bill Cole wrote:
The explanation is long and it's late, so here's a link to something
I worked out some time back:
https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2015-April/004195.html
Following that thread through shows a possible solution for Steven,
provided by Benny. There’s a hidden MM preference for setting the
environment variable which specifies where the GPG binary is located:
defaults write com.freron.MailMate environmentVariables -array '{
enabled = :true; name = "MM_GPG"; value = "/usr/local/bin/gpg2"; }’
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[MlMt] Show the mailbox of the currently selected message
Hello list, Sometimes in MailMate I’m looking at a message in a Smart Mailbox or search results, and I want to easily jump to the message’s IMAP folder and see it selected in the folder’s listing. This can be from looking at the message in a Smart Mailbox’s/search results listing, or (more rarely) sometimes when viewing the message in the message viewer. I know how to find out what mailbox the message is in (I’ve set a custom header in the message viewer showing location, and I can easily display the “Source Mailbox” column in the results list). What I’d like is a quick way (ideally that I can bind a key to) that will switch to the message’s mailbox and select it there. Is this possible? I’ve tried command-clicking on a the title bar in the message viewer and this gives me the Finder path to the message, which isn’t often useful for me. I was hoping it would show the mailbox path and I could select it from there. As I say, though, I’d prefer to be able to bind a key to it so I can jump to the mailbox directly from a search results listing when needed. Thanks, Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Show the mailbox of the currently selected message
On 17 Jan 2021, at 12:11, Thomas Eckhold wrote: Not sure it it is what you are looking for but have you tried the „Go to Source“ command? 🤦♂️ That is exactly what I was looking for, thanks! Not sure how I missed it, as I have recently used the `Show in Finder` command a few times, which is right below this! I think I was looking for the word “Folder” when I looked through the `Message` menu. Thank you so much, this is perfect! Jolin___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] R5757 is pretty buggy => I see wrong encoding
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[MlMt] Automating message filing (e.g. scripting MailMate or applying rules to multiple Mailboxes at once)
Hello list, As I’ve mentioned in a previous email, I am moving from Apple Mail to MailMate. One aspect of my Mail setup that I’ve not been able to replicate is how I deal with messages I file when not on my computer. ##Background I file my messages into various mailboxes using a structure that has worked for me over many years. The full mailbox hierarchy with all of these messages lives on my computer, via a local IMAP server which I’ve added to MailMate as an account named `On My Mac`.^1 On my mail hosts, I have a mailbox hierarchy which mirrors a subset of the full mailbox hierarchy that is on my Mac. This allows me to file messages from my phone or if I ever have to login on another computer via webmail. So, for instance, I might have the following mailbox hierarchies: **On My Mac** 1 Correspondence └Alice └Mary └Miscellaneous └Tod 2 Admin └Banking └Repairs Deleted Messages **Mail Account 1 (`emai...@example.com`)** Inbox Sent To File └1 Correspondence └Alice └Miscellaneous └Tod **Mail Account 2 (`emai...@example.com`)** Inbox Sent To File └1 Correspondence └Miscellaneous └2 Admin └Banking The mailboxes in `Mail Account 1` & `Mail Account 2` are available to me wherever I access my email, but the mailboxes in `On My Mac` are only available when I’m on my Mac. So I file messages when I’m on my phone, but when I get back to my Mac, I need to (eventually) copy all the messages from `Mail Account 1` & `Mail Account 2` to their corresponding mailboxes in `On My Mac`. ##Solutions I’ve Investigated (1) I have written an AppleScript that does this message filing in Apple Mail. It simply steps through the mailbox hierarchy on the mail servers, starting from a specified root folder, and moves all the messages in each mailbox to the corresponding mailbox in `On My Mac`. I’ve had look at MailMate’s AppleScript dictionary, and I think it’s too rudimentary to do this. (2) My next thought was that I could set up Rules on the mail server mailboxes that would move their contents to the appropriate mailbox in the `On My Mac` account. This would require manually customising the rules for each mailbox (as opposed to my AppleScript which traverses the mail servers’ hierarchies automatically), but at least I can do the setup once and then the message filing happens automatically. However, my Mac is not always on when I’m using email on my phone, so I can’t rely on MailMate being open at the point at which messages ‘arrive’ in the filing mailboxes on the mail host. I thought I could get around this by selected all the filing mailboxes on the mail host and choosing `Apply Rules`, but it seems that `Apply Rules` is only available if you have a single mailbox selected. Note, this wouldn’t have been ideal anyway, as it requires several steps to select the mailboxes across at least three mail hosts and then trigger the rules. Ideally I want to be able to select one menu item or press one key combination and have the filing triggered. So I’m out of ideas. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can achieve my filing? The task is essentially to automatically move emails from the mailboxes underneath a specified root on one or more IMAP servers to the correspondingly-named mailboxes on another IMAP server. Any help with this would be **hugely** appreciated, as it’s the only part of my workflow that is really problematic after moving from Mail, and the only one where MailMate doesn’t seem to have an alternative way of tackling the problem. Many thanks, Jolin ^1 _As a side note, I am aware that this is not the MailMate philosophy and the recommended procedure is to store all archive messages on my email host(s). For a few reasons I’m not interested in this and won’t do it. I’ve read the whole ‘[Archiving to local folders](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/81-archiving-to-local-folders)’ thread on the issue tracker and ended up using the link to [instructions on running a local Dovecot IMAP server](https://xdeb.org/post/2014/03/07/running-dovecot-as-a-local-only-imap-server-on-os-x/)._ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Automating message filing (e.g. scripting MailMate or applying rules to multiple Mailboxes at once)
Hi Mike, Apologies for the delayed reply, it’s been a busy few days. Thanks very much for the lateral thinking – I wasn’t aware of imapsync, but that is a great idea. It looks like it might work well for what I need. I’ll post an update once I’ve dug into it and have a solution. I think it will also be useful for someone I’m helping migrate mail servers, so this is very timely. Much appreciated! -- => Jolin On 24 Jan 2021, at 5:46, Mike Alexander wrote: On 23 Jan 2021, at 12:22, Jolin Warren wrote: So I’m out of ideas. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can achieve my filing? The task is essentially to automatically move emails from the mailboxes underneath a specified root on one or more IMAP servers to the correspondingly-named mailboxes on another IMAP server. It's not a MailMate solution, but this sounds like something that imapsync [1] might be able to do easily. I've used it a number of times to move mail around from one server to another. I used it a few weeks ago to rescue several gigabytes of EMail from a Gmail account that was about to go poof. Mike [1] https://imapsync.lamiral.info ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 'emate' does not support Markdown?
On 2 Feb 2021, at 14:13, TJ Luoma wrote: 2. Other than clicking the "Plain Text / Markdown" just above the "From" line, is there a way (preferably a menu bar item or keyboard shortcut) to set a message to "Markdown"? Yes! The `Format` menu has a `Show Markup` command with a default keyboard shortcut of `⌃⌘M`. Hit that and then use arrow keys (or typing) to select `Plain Text` or `Markdown` and hit return. I assume (but haven’t tried) that the keyboard shortcut can be changed as normal in the keyboard system preference. There are complimentary commands in that menu that are useful for showing the headers, signatures, and identities pop-up menus, too. I find the Identities one particularly useful. You can also combine this with assigning a shortcut to an identity in System Preferences. For example: if you use System Preferences to assign a shortcut of `⌃P` to your primary identity, you can then hit `⌃⌘I` to open the identities pop-up menu, followed by `⌃P` to select the primary identity. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] have the headers stay on top when scrolling?
I don’t know if this helps diagnose the issue, but I get the same behaviour as Bill (and shown in his video): my headers stay in place and the body of the message scrolls up under them. I have customised my headers (in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist) but not the overall message view. Running MailMate 1.13.2 (5673) on MacOS Mojave 10.14.6. For everyone whose headers do not stay in place: Is this in a separate message viewer window, or are you seeing this in the viewing pane in a three-pane view? -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Multiple 'retired' addresses
I use the `retiredAddressPattern` hidden preference to store old addresses for some of my IMAP accounts. There’s one account in particular where the organisation migrated domains, so the `retiredAddressPattern` preference contains the address pattern regular expression that matches my email address at the old domain, i.e. `retiredAddressPattern = "[Jj]olin\\.[Ww]arren@old-domain\\.org"`. However, I also have a second, infrequently used, forwarding address at the organisation (i.e. `departm...@old-domain.org`) and I would like to add this as a retired address, so that MailMate considers all previous emails and any new emails sent to that deprecated address as having been sent to me. But I can’t just add the whole of the old domain to my `retiredAddressPattern` (`*@old-domain\\.org`) as then all emails in my archives from colleagues at the organisation would look like they came from me. Does anyone know a way to add multiple email addresses to `retiredAddressPattern`? I tried comma-separated (`retiredAddressPattern = "[Jj]olin\\.[Ww]arren@old-domain\\.org, department@old-domain\\.org"`), but this didn't seem to work. Any other way of achieving this? Is there some grep pattern I could use? Thanks! -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Multiple 'retired' addresses
-- => Jolin On 21 Feb 2021, at 15:49, Kee Hinckley wrote: Have you tried a regular expression “or”? I hadn’t, but that sorted it! Thanks so much – as I suspected, it was my inadequate knowledge of grep that was the problem. 😁 By the way, you might have found this by now, but if you want the documentation for this feature, it’s in the Hidden Preferences section: https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#retired-email-addresses ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] The ‘Type’ column in Rules
Hello all, Something that has puzzled me about creating Rules in MailMate, is what the meaning of the `Type` column is? Every rule I create has a stylised `C A` in it:  What does this indicate? What other types are there? Haven’t been able to find this anywhere! Thanks -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] The ‘Type’ column in Rules
On 28 Feb 2021, at 15:07, Eric Sharakan wrote: I always assumed 'C' means condition and 'A' means action. Given that most rules include both, you usually see "C A". That is so obvious now you say it! And I confirmed this is indeed the case:  This raises another question for me, though: what would be the point of a condition-only or action-only rule? Can anyone think of how these might be used? I’m wondering if I’m missing out on a better workflow because I’m thinking of rules as I’ve always used them. Thanks again! -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] The ‘Type’ column in Rules
On 1 Mar 2021, at 11:33, Jolin Warren wrote: This raises another question for me, though: what would be the point of a condition-only or action-only rule? Can anyone think of how these might be used? I’ve just inadvertently answered half of my question: an action-only rule will apply to all messages in the folder. This is useful as I sometimes want a rule to apply to everything, and previously have used the inelegant workaround of a condition that the date is within the last 30 years. I’m still not sure what purpose a condition-only rule would serve, so any insights much appreciated. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Resizing images
One of the things that I think Apple Mail does really well is dealing with image attachments. In particular, when I’m sending a message and I need to include some photos to show what I’m talking about, Mail shows me the total size of the email with the images and lets me resize them, adjusting the displayed size to indicate the impact of the resizing:    How do people manage images in MailMate? I have to confess that when I need to included images in an email, particularly photos, I usually open up Mail and send the email from there. But I’d prefer to stay in MailMate, so is there a way to easily choose the size of any image attachments and see what size the email will be? -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Easiest way to attach a message as an EML attachment to an already existing draft?
On 9 Mar 2021, at 23:44, leo wrote: That’s a cool workaround - at least when you know _beforehand_ all the messages you want to attach to one email. Didn’t think of this. Thanks! Even if you don’t know beforehand, you can start composing an email and then drag a message in from the mailbox message list. MailMate will attach the email as an .eml file. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] MailMate and Monterey
Hey all, I’m about to migrate to a new computer, so will be going through a forced upgrade from Mojave (10.14) to Monterey (12.0). I see that r5848 was posted today. Is this what I should use, and does it work ok with Monterey? Or should I be using the MailMateBigSur.tbz archive (which I think is a release from August)? Thanks, Jolin -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Monterey
Thanks everyone who responded, I downloaded r5848, moved my MailMate folder to the new machine, and it’s all working well! This new version looks really nice, too, though I’ve lost my custom header layout on message windows. I suppose I need to update my headersFormatting.plist file for the new message viewer layout engine. Are there any sample files for this? -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Monterey
On 23 Nov 2021, at 2:03, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote: > I now have r5844 (not 5848, if that makes any difference), version 1.14. So I > guess I’m pretty much fully up to date now. If you want to manually download r5848, all releases are available here: https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Monterey
On 25 Nov 2021, at 17:18, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 23 Nov 2021, at 13:59, Jolin Warren wrote: > >> Thanks everyone who responded, I downloaded r5848, moved my MailMate folder >> to the new machine, and it’s all working well! This new version looks really >> nice, too, though I’ve lost my custom header layout on message windows. I >> suppose I need to update my headersFormatting.plist file for the new message >> viewer layout engine. Are there any sample files for this? > > No, this feature no longer works. It might return, but it won't be soon since > it's definitely one of the features I won't be working on before I've made a > new public release. Sorry. Ok, good to know so I don’t waste time investigating! To be honest, I could do without the full customisation, but what’s really important to me is being able to specify additional headers to be shown at the top of the message viewer window. This is something that is available in Mail (and was in Eudora before that ;-) ). There, in the “Viewing” preferences, there’s a “Show message headers:” option that can be set to a custom list where you add headers to display (see attachment). Being able to see a few additional headers is fairly important to the way I manage my email – I don’t suppose there’s any chance you’ll add a feature like this? I’m happy to forgo full customisation if I could have a simple list of headers that will be shown in the viewer window! -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Monterey
On 10 Dec 2021, at 12:11, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 4 Dec 2021, at 11:59, Jolin Warren wrote: > >> Being able to see a few additional headers is fairly important to the way I >> manage my email – I don’t suppose there’s any chance you’ll add a feature >> like this? I’m happy to forgo full customisation if I could have a simple >> list of headers that will be shown in the viewer window! > > The best I can tell you is that I do consider this a missing feature. That’s excellent, great to know it’s on the list somewhere. 😉 I appreciate that there has to be prioritisation, so happy to sit tight and work around this for now. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Feature request: 'Smart' Move to mailbox
I was also a heavy user of MailHub and loved the way it usually knew which mailbox I wanted to file a message to. (Incidentally, the ‘Preside’ email client on iOS also does this well.) I second the request, it would be great to have this feature in Mailmate. In the meantime, one thing that makes filing relatively easy even without the prediction is that Mailmate learns the keys you type to select a mailbox in the ‘Move to Mailbox’ window, so after filing messages for a few days you will probably find that you can select a mailbox with only one or two keys, so it’s pretty quick. On 9 Jan 2025, at 22:30, David Twist wrote: Hi, I’ve been trialing Mailmate for a week and am very happy with its performance thus far. Loving the robust and performant searching, filtering, organizing features! It would be a dream if the *Move to Mailbox* feature used a “frecency” algorithm to suggest mailboxes, a-la the old Apple Mail plugin, Mailhub: From an [archived manual](https://web.archive.org/web/20160612034546/http://dervishsoftware.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/MailHubManual.pdf ): … MailHub is intuitive software that will suggest folders to file emails to based on criteria such as subject, sender and previous administration activity. When you first install the program, MailHub will automatically index your mailboxes to identify your common filing behaviour. This will allow it to ‘auto-suggest’ appropriate mailboxes to file to. MailHub will then continue to learn as you file. … I’m sure there’s no end of new features on your list, Benny, but I’m confident you’ll agree that this one surpasses all the rest in its brilliance and obvious necessity, and you will have no choice but to start work on it immediately. ;) Seriously though, I know feature requests are a bane, but just wanted to share my appreciation for the work you’ve already done and throw my birthday wishes out into the ether. Cheers, David___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Message list vertical font alignment
On 2 Jan 2025, at 14:31, Benjamin Coddington wrote: > On 2 Jan 2025, at 8:26, Benjamin Coddington wrote: >> After jumping up to Sequoia from Monterey, the text fields in the message >> list are shifted down such that some text parts are clipped, the threading >> delta seems shifted up slightly. I've tried resetting fonts and the light >> height delta is zero - here's what its looking like: >> >> https://bcodding.com/p/mlmt-line-height-bcodding.png > > […] > > My issues seem to be caused by my selection of font attributes - Helvetica > Bold at 11.0 pt used to produce vertically-centered rows, but I've been able > to switch to Helvetica Neue Bold 12.0 pt with line height delta of -4. This > produces the same density and experience as before. I had the same issue when I updated to MailMate test version r6056 (on Sequoia) in August last year. I had some correspondence with Benny and it turned out that the issue doesn’t arise when using the MailMate default font (which is the system default ‘San Francisco’). With the default font you can set the size to whatever you want and the text remains vertically centred in message lists. Benny also made a note of the issue: On 5 Aug 2024, at 12:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > It's probably a bug in my code. It's surprisingly difficult to handle any > font, but it does appear there's a general issue at play here. I've made a > note of it. Ben, it looks like you’ve found a solution but if you want another one you can reset the font to the default and then choose any size. And a future version of MailMate may fix the issue entirely. -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Length of Paid Mode for existing patrons
On 24 Dec 2024, at 7:50, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > I'm glad you ask! The answer is yes, but I'd like to explain why and I'm also > open to changing it. > > […] > > For older license keys, I have these rules: MailMate will stay in “Paid Mode” > until 1 July > 2025 or 2 years after the original purchase date. Whatever > comes last. Someone buying a license key 3 days ago will see something like > 730 days left. > > Now, your case. Your license key is old which means, at a minimum, MailMate > will stay in the paid mode until 1 July 2025. You are also a patron, but > although MailMate does take these payments into account, they have been added > to the time since the original purchase date. When paying $10 this doesn't > give you anything extra while someone having paid $20 or more would likely > see a large value for “days left”. > > I'd like to give some kind of reward to $10 patrons, but I haven't decided > how. I can do it server-side though and I have 189 days to do so. It might > also depend on how the subscription model is received in general. Fwiw, as someone who bought a licence and has subsequently been a $10 patron for some time, I do not feel the desire or need for a reward. My licence and patron payments were to support the excellent product I’ve been using for the last several years, and I had no expectation that they would entitle me to anything in the future. I would like you to be fairly compensated for your continuing excellent work, so would prefer to pay the normal price you’ve set with the new pricing model. In other words, I don’t feel like I’m ‘owed’ anything simply because I chose to be a patron before the subscription model was introduced. I did it because MailMate is immensely valuable to me and I wanted to support it. I hope you manage to have some time off Benny! -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
