[MlMt] How to fix .plist standard files missing?
HI Having moved MM to a new computer, I find I want to use some key bindings and on reading closely the manual discover this: “Do not edit these files. Changes should be placed in separate files as described further below. The file named Standard.plist is always in use, but Gmail.plist is more interesting.” I have neither standard.plist or gmail.plist in my Resources/KeyBindings folder. How should I fix this? I may have created this issue in copying over the keybindings from my old computer which also is missing those files! I’m running version 5973. thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (cell - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to fix .plist standard files missing?
thanks to you and also Henry.. Okay so that’s not my problem. And your explanations helped. AND I got my issue fixed. Thanks! 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (cell - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 28 Feb 2023, at 11:02, John Cooper wrote: Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 3:16 AM on Tuesday, February 28, 2023): Having moved MM to a new computer, I find I want to use some key bindings and on reading closely the manual discover this: “Do not edit these files. Changes should be placed in separate files as described further below. The file named Standard.plist is always in use, but Gmail.plist is more interesting.” I have neither standard.plist or gmail.plist in my Resources/KeyBindings folder. How should I fix this? Hi Annamarie, If you read just above the part of the Help file that you quoted, it gives the full path to these files: MailMate.app/Contents/Resources/KeyBindings/ These files actually reside *inside* the MailMate application. Although it's not well known except to developers, on a Mac, an application is actually a special kind of folder. It's very important not to edit anything inside an application because it could break the application. Keep reading the Help file, and you see: It is also possible to create new key bindings files in the following folder location: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/ That's where you can put custom key bindings files to override the files that are built into the application. The ~ in the path is developer shorthand for your account's home folder ([Computer]/Macintosh HD/Users/[Your account name]). Hope this clears up the confusion! John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Stage Manager and Mailmate
Hi all I’m playing with Stage Manager on Ventura which I kinda like BUT for how MM sizes email windows. They always open very narrow and long or very small. I can’t figure out if there’s a way to control this. Is there? Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
HI Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. Any help? thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Thanks for responding. I’ve come back to this issue after a busy few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return. Am I missing a step? yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer. Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote: > On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400) > Annamarie Pluhar > is rumored to have said: > >> HI >> >> Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read >> Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a >> setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend >> also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. > > > There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is > at: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html > > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
hi Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right? thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 21 Apr 2023, at 8:06, Henry Seiden wrote: Annamarie, This may have been asked before, but how are you opening attachments which give you a Read-Only indication: 1. Double-Click on the attachment in the message, in MM? 2. Use arrow key to download to the default folder (usually Downloads) and open from there to its default app (E.G. Preview or others)? 3. Some other way… Specifically what? And last, which version and MacOS are you using? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 21 Apr 2023, at 6:41, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Thanks for responding. I’ve come back to this issue after a busy few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return. Am I missing a step? yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer. Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote: On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400) Annamarie Pluhar is rumored to have said: HI Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is at: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg16006.html -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Thanks for your careful description. Wah, I want to open and edit and save as new name and location, but I guess I can relearn my pattern. Maybe I can teach Hazel to open .doc files in Downloads? hmmm, that might make a mess. So the upshot of this is that my issue is a feature, not a bug. Knowing this I think I’ll be less annoyed by the behavior. thanks again Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 23 Apr 2023, at 4:45, Henry Seiden wrote: Annamarie, My 2¢… On my version of MM, 1.14 Test Build 5964, also on the last official Beta release of 1.14 (5937) (you can get a list of all releases from the Help Menu, without installing them), the double-click, assuming that is what you are doing, does indeed open a read-only version of the file assuming MacOS and the app in question supports it. Preview supports a PDF file opening in read-only. And so I can confirm that a PDF in MM, opens in Preview and appears as Read-only. Again, what would you like it to do - open as a new version of the file that can be saved to a new location? That would then become several more steps to store the file - select the new location, and save it - two more steps but certainly do-able) from there as a copy. The workaround I suggest is use the “eye” icon instead to confirm it’s what you expect. Then the “down arrow” icon instead if satisfied with the quick look. With practice you’ll find it useful and saves steps (keystrokes). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: hi Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Key Bindings - Last of thread
hi I’ve just spent 45 minutes trying to figure out why the key binding for “Last of thread” won’t work on my computer. (MBA M2 - Ventura). Other key bindings work, but I haven’t tested them all. I found the file showing key bindings here: MailMate.app/Contents/Resources/KeyBindings/ but don’t see of the keybindings listed in that file that are available. I do have a key binding that I created for loading images and that is working. Application Support/Mailmate/Resources/KeyBinding What am I missing? thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working
hi It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.) None of the keyboard shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a similar issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox? Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created to warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it. Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not Keyboard Maestro or anything like that. Ideas? Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working
HI Robert, Thanks for this hint. I do have a plist file I had created (with help from this list!)I finally had the time and internet connectivity to try this. I don’t know Xcode but downloaded it and opened up the file “messageVerfications.plist” (warns me when I send an email out of my gmail account) Couldn’t see anything obvious (I’m not a programmer!) So I tried moving the file out of the library, rebooted my computer and I still have all MM keystrokes greyed out. So it’s not that file, right? Other ideas? thanks for help! 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 25 May 2023, at 10:30, Robert Goldman wrote: I had a problem similar to this, and was only able to fix it after I opened one of my keybindings files, which was misbehaving, and edited it in Xcode. It was failing quietly and messing up lots of previously working bindings. My attempts to edit the file in a text editor didn't work because I was making quoting errors. When I used Xcode, the tool found my errors and I was able to fix them. It would be nice if there was some logging or pop-up when something like this goes wrong so it's easier to find and fix. If there's logging of plist loading failures, I couldn't find it. Hope that helps, R On 25 May 2023, at 4:54, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: hi It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.) None of the keyboard shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a similar issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox? Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created to warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it. Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not Keyboard Maestro or anything like that. Ideas? Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] None of the keyboard shortcuts working Handholding please
Hi I’m deciding that an answer to my issue is to reinstall MM. I think I’m missing the standard.plist file. At least I can’t find it. (User error in creating keybindings?) So I shouldn’t copy over my /Library/Application Support/Mailmate folder since I’ll replicate my issue? But I have signatures and smart mailboxes and multiple accounts that I’d like to preserve so I do need to copy over these files? (all .plist) Identities Mailboxes signatures Managed/keychain Is that right? What about sources.plist? Thanks for help - not a coder - Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 31 May 2023, at 5:45, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: HI Robert, Thanks for this hint. I do have a plist file I had created (with help from this list!)I finally had the time and internet connectivity to try this. I don’t know Xcode but downloaded it and opened up the file “messageVerfications.plist” (warns me when I send an email out of my gmail account) Couldn’t see anything obvious (I’m not a programmer!) So I tried moving the file out of the library, rebooted my computer and I still have all MM keystrokes greyed out. So it’s not that file, right? Other ideas? thanks for help! 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 25 May 2023, at 10:30, Robert Goldman wrote: I had a problem similar to this, and was only able to fix it after I opened one of my keybindings files, which was misbehaving, and edited it in Xcode. It was failing quietly and messing up lots of previously working bindings. My attempts to edit the file in a text editor didn't work because I was making quoting errors. When I used Xcode, the tool found my errors and I was able to fix them. It would be nice if there was some logging or pop-up when something like this goes wrong so it's easier to find and fix. If there's logging of plist loading failures, I couldn't find it. Hope that helps, R On 25 May 2023, at 4:54, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: hi It’s driving me nuts. (When I focus on it.) None of the keyboard shortcuts in MM work. They are all greyed out. [Here is a screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqn3qcso7jnahhe/MM%20Shortcuts%20greyed.png?dl=0). It must be something simple as I can’t find anyone having a similar issue. I’ve looked and looked to find some checkbox? Yes, I have Custom Keybindings Enabled with a special that I created to warn me when I send mail from this address. that’s it. Something is getting in the way? I use Alfred and Hazel but not Keyboard Maestro or anything like that. Ideas? Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Why do I get a skinny window?
Hello all, It’s annoying. The email message is skinny. Here is [link to screenshot.](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6fgwxwcob0367rt3g2r42/Screenshot-2023-09-15-at-5.40.30-AM.png?rlkey=jsp71knw6f757gnf5pn8wnk4e&dl=0). This happens when I reboot my computer and start up MM. Any ideas how to change this? Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] From Box doesn't give me other email options
Hi Just moved MM to my new MacBook Pro and upgraded to Mojave. As instructed a month ago or so, I simply copied over all my ‘plists’. Aside from Apple and Google insistence that I have an app-specific password all seemed good. BUT.. I can no longer select which email address I will be sending from. I have Multiple (don’t ask!) email addresses but that the drop down gives me only gmail. HELP! How do I fix this? (Yes Benny this is a resend, I removed the screenshot which was making the message too big. Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] From Box doesn't give me other email options
I solved it by reinstalling MM. And then I added ALL 10 of my addresses by hand. Did find myself wondering if I could be using the address pattern recognition instead.. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 5 Jan 2019, at 20:08, Randall Gellens wrote: On 5 Jan 2019, at 7:19, Annamarie pluhar wrote: Hi Just moved MM to my new MacBook Pro and upgraded to Mojave. As instructed a month ago or so, I simply copied over all my ‘plists’. Aside from Apple and Google insistence that I have an app-specific password all seemed good. BUT.. I can no longer select which email address I will be sending from. I have Multiple (don’t ask!) email addresses but that the drop down gives me only gmail. HELP! How do I fix this? (Yes Benny this is a resend, I removed the screenshot which was making the message too big. Thanks Annamarie I noticed this, too, and sent a message on December 27th (subject "Identities selection") but no resolution. There is a menu item Format -> Show Identities, but selecting one that way doesn't seem to actually change anything (e.g., the Bcc header field is not updated). However, editing the Bcc header field does seem to work, but must be done manually rather than by selecting an identity. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Driving me nuts..
Okay that’s an overstatement. In one of my email accounts I have a “2” indicating that there are two unread emails. I can’t find them. Ideas? Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Driving me nuts..
Great tip. Done. Found. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 12 Jan 2019, at 21:52, Edward Thome wrote: On Jan 12, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Okay that’s an overstatement. In one of my email accounts I have a “2” indicating that there are two unread emails. I can’t find them. Ideas? I have a smart mailbox set up to show all unread emails. I think is says Flag is not Seen (Or ‘does not contain’) All the Best, Ed ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Keystroke to clear search?
Hi I’m finding that I’m wanting a way to clear the search field without having to use the trackpad. Is there such a thing? I’m suspecting this might take me into custom key bindings which I know I don’t understand. Thanks for help. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keystroke to clear search?
Doesn’t work for me. Leaves the search below open below which is the issue. Took a screenshot - Don’t think I can send an attachment so here is the DB l[ink](https://www.dropbox.com/s/tb058gph2yuqunj/Screen%20Shot%202019-01-19%20at%208.41.16%20AM.png?dl=0) Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 19 Jan 2019, at 8:23, Thomas Eckhold wrote: ESC works for me. Regards Thomas Sent from iPhone. Am 19.01.2019 um 13:19 schrieb Annamarie Pluhar : Hi I’m finding that I’m wanting a way to clear the search field without having to use the trackpad. Is there such a thing? I’m suspecting this might take me into custom key bindings which I know I don’t understand. Thanks for help. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] caret position in replies
I’m not sure that this is it… Does she have “signature” at the top? Meaning when the reply email is open where does she want her signature? Top or bottom? I have mine at top and I think MM remembers this choice. Let us know if that’s the answer. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 20 Feb 2019, at 6:57, Robert Brenstein wrote: When I ask for a reply, I get the quote of the original mail with 2 empty lines above it and the insertion point at the very beginning. My wife started using MM and she get no empty lines above the quote - the insertion point is in front of the line “On 20 Feb 2019, at 9:22, wrote” which is not optimal. We compared our settings and can’t figure out how I managed to set the behavior I see. Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Keystroke for "Load Once"?
Hi all Last time I asked for a keystroke it turned out that it was obvious so I’m going to ask for another. Is there one for “Load Once” to get the images that are embedded in an email to load? OR a preference I’ve missed OR?? Thanks. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keystroke for "Load Once"?
Thank you Sherif. I kind thought it might be a key binding but I’m stuck… (not a coder but on computers since the dark ages of floppy disks so file management is comfortable) According to the documentation: “It is also possible to create new key bindings files in the following folder location: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/ If you create a file named Special.plist then you need to add Special to the comma-separated list of names in the Preferences, for example, Gmail, Special.” But I don’t have a “Resources” folder … Unless it is hidden and I have to use Terminal - in which case I’m in over my head. It is not clear to me if I would create a new file inside KeyBindings or add that line of code to the file “Key Bindings” if I could find it. Would love to understand this. Thanks Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 15 Mar 2019, at 13:39, Sherif Soliman wrote: On 15 Mar 2019, at 4:49, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Hi all Last time I asked for a keystroke it turned out that it was obvious so I’m going to ask for another. Is there one for “Load Once” to get the images that are embedded in an email to load? OR a preference I’ve missed OR?? Thanks. Annamarie Pluhar I don't know if there is a pre-existing keystroke for it, but I have the Load Once action bound to "L" (Shift + l) in my [MailMate keybindings](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings) file: "L" = "loadImagesOnce:"; It works as you would expect - loads the images in an email you're already viewing, but the next message you open will not have its images/external references loaded until you invoke Shift + l again. Hope this helps. Sherif ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keystroke for "Load Once"?
YEAH! Thank you. I’ve learned SO MUCH more about key bindings.. I
could go a little nuts. I **Finally** understand the documentation.
Correction to what you sent, I needed to also have a folder inside
“Resources” that was “KeyBindings” .
So happy - this comes in the middle of fighting with website development
and not understanding that… and now I can load the pics easily on one
newsletter I get. : )
Many thanks!
Annamarie
Annamarie Pluhar
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On 16 Mar 2019, at 10:42, Sherif Soliman wrote:
Hi Annamarie,
You're right about the location. And I believe that unless you created
it yourself in the past, there is no pre-existing Resources folder or
any keybindings file in that location.
If you don't see a Resources folder when you get to
`~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/` then you should create it,
and create a KeyBindings folder within Resources. In the KeyBindings
folder you can create the `Special.plist` file, or you can name it
whatever you like as long as the extension is `.plist`.
For the functionality you asked about, the contents of the file would
be this:
{
"L" = "loadImagesOnce:";
}
Then follow the instructions in the MailMate manual link I included
below, especially the paragraph that begins with "You can enable these
key bindings in the Preferences (General pane)." I think you used to
have to restart MailMate for the keybindings to take effects, that may
or may not still be the case.
Does that work?
Sherif
On 16 Mar 2019, at 4:54, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:
Thank you Sherif. I kind thought it might be a key binding but I’m
stuck… (not a coder but on computers since the dark ages of floppy
disks so file management is comfortable)
According to the documentation:
“It is also possible to create new key bindings files in the
following folder location:
~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/
If you create a file named Special.plist then you need to add Special
to the comma-separated list of names in the Preferences, for example,
Gmail, Special.”
But I don’t have a “Resources” folder … Unless it is hidden
and I have to use Terminal - in which case I’m in over my head. It
is not clear to me if I would create a new file inside KeyBindings or
add that line of code to the file “Key Bindings” if I could find
it.
Would love to understand this.
Thanks
Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)
On 15 Mar 2019, at 13:39, Sherif Soliman wrote:
On 15 Mar 2019, at 4:49, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:
Hi all
Last time I asked for a keystroke it turned out that it was obvious
so I’m going to ask for another. Is there one for “Load Once”
to get the images that are embedded in an email to load? OR a
preference I’ve missed OR??
Thanks.
Annamarie Pluhar
I don't know if there is a pre-existing keystroke for it, but I have
the Load Once action bound to "L" (Shift + l) in my [MailMate
keybindings](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings)
file:
"L" = "loadImagesOnce:";
It works as you would expect - loads the images in an email you're
already viewing, but the next message you open will not have its
images/external references loaded until you invoke Shift + l again.
Hope this helps.
Sherif
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Re: [MlMt] Notes on latest test release and Gmail OAuth application verification
Thanks Benny for your message. It’s yet another reason why I love MM. A developer with integrity and transparency! As a non-geek (and a grateful MM user!) what I think I’m understanding is that google might require some type of pricey audit that Benny can’t afford out of his own pocket. Is that right? If that’s true perhaps all of us users could contribute to a crowd-sourced fund to pay for same. ?? Before we jump to that - does someone understand why Google might want this audit? I don’t know how many users there are but perhaps google could not require the audit? What does it do? My three cents. Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 30 Apr 2019, at 14:22, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: On Apr 30, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On 30 Apr 2019, at 12:24, Dave C wrote: Thanks for the update Benny. Re WKWebView, can the new features be selectively enabled? For example, I am locked (because some apps are locked to it) to MacOS 10.12 right now. Can image blocking be not enabled and MM still use WK except for that feature such that it will work in 19.12? Re Gmail: good! If MM is forced to drop Gmail, I’ll finally drop all those horrible “free” accounts. It's worse than that—many organizations have outsourced their email to Google. My university does, though I still run my own mail server… Same for me. Two of the five accounts I have no choice but to use are Google apps. It would sadly be the end of the line for me, to be able to use MM. Nasty situation. I HATE webmail clients :-( ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Is this MM or the reciever?
I got this bounce back and...@andreapluhar.com>: host mail.andreapluhar.com[162.215.248.172] said: 550-Please turn on SMTP Authentication in your mail client, or login to the 550-IMAP/POP3 server before sending your message. 550-st43p00im-ztdg10073201.me.com [17.58.63.177]:59104 is not permitted to 550 relay through this server without authentication. (in reply to RCPT TO command) I do have SMTP authentication on. Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Notes on latest test release and Gmail OAuth application verification
Ugh. It’s not working for me. My gmail spins and spins and then i get unauthorized. But MM is an authorized app. I’ve gone into those settings at google. I could reinstall the account? I have many smart mailboxes. Ugh. Thoughts ? Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar @sharinghousing Author: Sharing Housing, A Guidebook for Finding and Keeping Good Housemates. Find out more: http://www.sharinghousing.com Please forgive brevity and typos. Typing with thumb!! > On May 31, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Patrik Fältström via mailmate > wrote: > > Excellent news! Thanks! > > Patrik > >> On 31 May 2019, at 12:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: >> >> Hi MailMate users, >> >> a couple of updates on the subjects I wrote about a month ago. >> >> First some very good news: I've finally passed the verification process for >> the Google OAuth API. It has been a bit frustrating and involved weird steps >> including making a YouTube video essentially showing that MailMate is an >> email client. In the end I was again asked to go through the security audit, >> but after yet another appeal it was revealed that this was a mistake. This >> means that MailMate will continue to support Gmail -- also after January >> 2019. Well, at least until the next time Google decides to threaten to pull >> the OAuth plug. >> >> My work on WKWebView (the new message view) continues. It's still not ready >> for testing (because of a lack of essential features like image blocking and >> signing/encryption results), but I've added important major features like >> the “Find” interface to do text searches. A new feature is that this now >> also works for the headers. Scrolling behavior has been tricky to implement, >> but this is almost complete. Next up are changes needed for how HTML is >> created for the message view. The new message view allows multiple HTML >> segments to be created and displayed in separate HTML views. This is both >> more flexible and more robust with respect to security when dealing with >> signed/encrypted content and/or when displaying complex and/or multiple >> messages. >> >> (And the bad news: When I work on major features I tend to fall behind on >> answering emails and updating support tickets.) >> >> -- >> Benny >> https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ >> >>> On 30 Apr 2019, at 16:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: >>> >>> Hi MailMate users, >>> >>> I know I'm behind on answering emails (also on the mailing list), but it >>> doesn't mean I'm not working :) >>> >>> ## WKWebView >>> >>> Right now I'd just like to note that I'm busy working on replacing the main >>> message view in MailMate. It currently uses the so-called WebView class >>> provided by Apple, but this was deprecated a long time ago (by Apple) and >>> it should be replaced by a so-called WKWebView. Both classes are used to >>> display HTML (which MailMate also generates to display plain text messages) >>> and if that is all that is needed then it's a simple replacement. But >>> MailMate also has image blocking, context sensitive menus, text search, >>> etc. and all of this has to work in a completely different way. In some >>> cases, it's not even clear that I can provide the same features as before. >>> We'll see about that. WKWebView is 10.10+, but right now it looks like >>> image blocking can only work on 10.13+. I'm not quite sure what to do about >>> that yet... >>> >>> The latest test release includes the new message view, but it's disabled >>> for now because too many things don't work yet. I'm mainly writing about >>> this since some changes might also affect the old message view in the >>> latest test release. >>> >>> The good news is that when the replacement is finished then I should, at >>> least in theory, be able to fix various old issues. >>> >>> ## Google OAuth API Application Verification >>> >>> MailMate uses the so-called OAuth2 authentication method for Gmail >>> IMAP/SMTP access. This works far better than password-based access which I >>> suspect is eventually going to be dropped completely by Google. I had (and >>> still have) some reservations about OAuth2 support which I outlined in >>> [this blog >>> post](https://blog.freron.com/2015/is-oauth2-support-a-good-thing/). I >>> expressed that I worried that Google would some day use OAuth2 t
[MlMt] UGH.. Gmail won't authenticate
I'm using the web app to write this. I'm not sure what to do. MM is an approved 3rd party app in my Google settings. Should I remove it and start over? Should I delete the account from MM and reset it up. (I have LOTS of smart mailboxes so this would be a pain.) Do let me know, I'm copying myself on one of my other emails that is working. Please use that address? Thanks Annamarie ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Help: Using MM with Third Party Contact Programs
I use BusyContacts. My method is to use TextExpander snippets for groups I email to on a regular basis. https://textexpander.com Annamarie On 14 Sep 2019, at 13:12, Shoshanna Green wrote: If you have a group defined in Apple's Contacts app, you can just start typing the group name in the To, Cc, or Bcc field in MailMate, wait for it to autocomplete (or scroll down and select the correct autocompletion), and hit the comma key to fill in all the addresses contained in the group. Will that work with BusyContacts? On 14 Sep 2019, at 12:22, Bruce Lynn wrote: I have been using MailMate for 25 days now and was writing an email that I wanted to go to a subset of my contacts. My primary program for contacts is Busy Contacts. Within Busy Contacts I have a group of contacts I named Email. This is a group of people I will email occasionally. With Apple Mail I could open Busy Contacts, hold down the ⌘ (command) key, select the recipients and drag them to either the “CC” or “BCC” fields of the email I was composing. This does not work with MailMate. Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Weird annoyance
Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of my screen. How do I correct this behavior? Any ideas? Thanks Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance
Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link [here ](https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai1459lur57e0sb/Screen%20Shot%202019-10-18%20at%206.03.48%20AM.png?dl=0) See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow? I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been going on for some days now. Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years. Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote: Maybe that's the preview window? When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then MM open a preview window under the message box Von meinem iDingens gesendet... Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper : Move it somewhere else? Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed. Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019): Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of my screen. How do I correct this behavior? Any ideas? Thanks Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance
Well after quite a few tries at this - MM now open the new draft pane in the middle of my screen but it is still quite narrow…. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 18 Oct 2019, at 7:20, Edward Thome wrote: I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that as the default. The next time that you move and resize the window, immediately close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and to the side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new window. Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window size and position as long as you close the window before it is used in any way. All the best, Ed -- On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar < annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote: Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai1459lur57e0sb/Screen%20Shot%202019-10-18%20at%206.03.48%20AM.png?dl=0> See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow? I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been going on for some days now. Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years. Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote: Maybe that's the preview window? When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then MM open a preview window under the message box Von meinem iDingens gesendet... Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper : Move it somewhere else? Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed. Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019): Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of my screen. How do I correct this behavior? Any ideas? Thanks Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance
It finally fixed itself and I don’t know why… Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 18 Oct 2019, at 10:56, Robert Brenstein wrote: For people who do not feel secure editing raw prefs files, I can recommend “Prefs Editor 2” app. Editing prefs is safe as long as MailMate is not running. You may also try to reposition and resize window then quit and relaunch MM or the same plus fill out and save then quit and relaunch. MM should at some point write the new position into the prefs file. On 18 Oct 2019, at 14:02, Tobias Jung wrote: In my experience in cases like this, it often helps to delete the preferences file. However, yo do lose ALL the settings then which is usually not very pleasant. So let me suggest another approach. Download PrefsEditor http://apps.tempel.org/PrefsEditor/index.php After you’ve opened the app, open the file com.freron.MailMate.plist. Look for the key "NSWindow Frame MMComposer". In my case, the corresponding value is "734 146 722 760 0 0 1920 1057". The first four figures seem to be related to x- and y-position, width and height. They do no match exactly here. I guess for example, counting the y-position start below macOS’s menu line (which makes sense). The height value is somewhat smaller than the actual window height (33px). I guess modifying these values will do the trick BUT!!! Please don’t do it until someone here confirmed it’s a safe thing to do. I don’t know if this really works and I’d hate to be responsible if this screws up you preference file. For the moment, you at least can look at those values and see if they correspond to your composer window’s position and size. Hope this helps, Tobias Jung On 18 Oct 2019, at 13:32, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Well after quite a few tries at this - MM now open the new draft pane in the middle of my screen but it is still quite narrow…. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 18 Oct 2019, at 7:20, Edward Thome wrote: I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that as the default. The next time that you move and resize the window, immediately close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and to the side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new window. Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window size and position as long as you close the window before it is used in any way. All the best, Ed -- On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar < annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote: Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai1459lur57e0sb/Screen%20Shot%202019-10-18%20at%206.03.48%20AM.png?dl=0> See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow? I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been going on for some days now. Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years. Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote: Maybe that's the preview window? When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then MM open a preview window under the message box Von meinem iDingens gesendet... Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper : Move it somewhere else? Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed. Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019): Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of my screen. How do I correct this behavior? Any ideas? Thanks Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] searching Mailmate Archives
Hi, Welcome. There is a search [here](https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/). Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 1 Feb 2020, at 12:36, Pierre Grenier wrote: hellø group… yep; i’m a newbie !! Learning everything from scratch, but willing to put time/effort to it… As i’m expanding my horizons, it would be really helpful for me to easily search Mailmate’s mailman archives. As it is (as i visualize it on my browser) the archive is listed per month, and i then/thus must look at every entry hierarchically. Surely there is a search function somewhere ??? thanks ahead, for pointing me in the right direction… ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Busy Contacts as default for "Add to Contacts"
Hi, I would love Busy Contacts to be my default when I use “add to contacts”. I went looking through the archives and found Benny’s answer to how to implement it but I don’t know what to do with the code? Terminal? Preferences? Benny says ** “Try this in the next update of MailMate: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAddressBook -string com.busymac.busycontacts (It's a somewhat hardcoded solution for now, but it should make MailMate use BusyContacts instead of Contacts for the Show/Add menu items.)” Next update? Where do I put the code? Thanks for help! Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Busy Contacts as default for "Add to Contacts"
Thank you. I love it when it is so simple. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 8 Feb 2020, at 7:29, Charlie Clark wrote: On 8 Feb 2020, at 13:27, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Hi, I would love Busy Contacts to be my default when I use “add to contacts”. I went looking through the archives and found Benny’s answer to how to implement it but I don’t know what to do with the code? Terminal? Preferences? Just open Terminal (or ITerm, which many of us prefer) and copy & paste that line and hit enter. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Kronenstr. 27a Düsseldorf D- 40217 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Domain mail won't go online
Hi, I think that this is a MM problem. It’s not happening on my iPhone. It’s just my email accounts that are associated with my domains. My gmail account is working (obviously) and also my .me account. I have a trouble ticket in with my hosting provider … They haven’t indicated that they did a server change or something.. I can’t attach a screenshot here, so I’m sending the drop box link for the error message, [here ](https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxr55v5zph4zxx0/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%207.08.45%20PM.png?dl=0). Anybody understand what’s going on? Thanks for help. It’s really annoying. And yes, I have rebooted, quit the app etc. Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Domain mail won't go online
Sent the wrong one. Ugh…Sorry. Here is the right one. https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfqki9mjlhwsehh/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%202.05.53%20PM.png?dl=0 Update: Message from hosting provider: “We recently completed the migration of your server to our brand new Google data center. There is a high chance that cached information inside the mail client is causing the connectivity issue you are experiencing. As an attempt to resolve this you can try adjusting your mail client's settings to directly connect to the server's hostname. This is done by using the details below:” I’ve tried the new setting on one account and it didn’t resolve. Sigh. Thanks for help! Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 4 Mar 2020, at 21:21, Bill Cole wrote: On 4 Mar 2020, at 19:28, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Hi, I think that this is a MM problem. It’s not happening on my iPhone. It’s just my email accounts that are associated with my domains. My gmail account is working (obviously) and also my .me account. I have a trouble ticket in with my hosting provider … They haven’t indicated that they did a server change or something.. I can’t attach a screenshot here, so I’m sending the drop box link for the error message, [here ](https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxr55v5zph4zxx0/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%207.08.45%20PM.png?dl=0). I see no error message in that image, just an account configuration dialog. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Domain mail won't go online
Thank you so much Bill. I did in fact send an email to Benny that got attention. (And apologies for not responding sooner, amazing!) It is as you say. A specific server at my hosting - and Benny sent me the same command line to disable the quota thingy. No loss to me as I never used it. Amazing how disruptive it was to me not to be getting email on five email accounts. May it not happen again! Peace, Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 6 Mar 2020, at 17:24, Bill Cole wrote: On 5 Mar 2020, at 6:56, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Sent the wrong one. Ugh…Sorry. Here is the right one. https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfqki9mjlhwsehh/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-04%20at%202.05.53%20PM.png?dl=0 OK, so the core error is "NO Internal quota calculation error" which indicates a very specific rare problem with a particular IMAP server (Dovecot, a very good open source IMAP server) and the only problem in MailMate is that it does not expect that as a possible error at that point. It is reasonable in my opinion to be surprised by a computer saying that it made a calculation error... Update: Message from hosting provider: “We recently completed the migration of your server to our brand new Google data center. There is a high chance that cached information inside the mail client is causing the connectivity issue you are experiencing. As an attempt to resolve this you can try adjusting your mail client's settings to directly connect to the server's hostname. This is done by using the details below:” I’ve tried the new setting on one account and it didn’t resolve. Sigh. I wouldn't expect that to help. That error is weird. The only reasons I can see that it should ever happen from the server side is if there's some gross misconfiguration or malfunction. I suppose it's possible that MailMate could have some detail about the server's mailbox namespace or feature support cached that changed when your provider migrated to new infrastructure, making the command that got the error nonsensical, but I though Benny had worked out all the kinks in that over a year ago. Are you running the latest release? IF the problem is MM remembering stale info about the IMAP server, rather than the IMAP server being broken in some manner, it may fix the problem if you delete and recreate the account in MailMate. If the account has a lot of extant messages or dependent smart mailboxes (making a rebuild painful,) you might need to poke Benny more firmly by opening an actual bug report and including MailMate's IMAP session logs. As a temporary workaround, this command line tweak may also work, at the expense of losing quota support for all accounts: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmIMAPQuotaDisabled -bool YES -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] How do I ?
Hi, Asking for help rather than trying something out because I don’t want mess it up. I moved a domain email to G Suites from my hosting provider Siteground. I get email fine. Sending is a problem because I can’t tell which of the email accounts I’m using in the “From” box : they both say annama...@sharinghousing.org. I don’t want to delete the Siteground account because I need the emails I got before the transfer. It’s a problem because if I choose the wrong one, the smtp server rejects it. As I write this.. Maybe I should simply put in the new smtp settings for the old account??? OR? Can I fix the label in the from field somehow? Hope this is clear. Thanks for help. Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Reshape new mail window?
Hi all Every now and then, MM decides that a new email message should be a particular shape that is annoying, like this tiny, off to the right, new email dialogue box. See linked [screenshot](https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqpq3q5gdgvbx20/Screen%20Shot%202020-06-19%20at%2010.40.36%20AM.png?dl=0). I don’t know how to fix this. I’ve tried resizing it and sending. But the next new message is in the same place. I’ve quit MM. Still not fixed. Help? Thanks Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Figured it out
There was an email hiding behind windows that was controlling the new email window .All good now. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MM keeps re-asking for password
I do get these requests for password every now and then. With the password filled in. It’s annoying but goes away pretty quickly. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 18 Jul 2020, at 2:05, Mike Alexander wrote: I had a problem very much like this a few weeks ago. When I came back to my machine after leaving MM running overnight it would prompt me for some or all of the passwords for the 5 IMAP accounts that I normally use. I discovered that if I just dismissed those dialogs MM would try again and get the PW from the Keychain with no problem. With some help I got MM to log what it was doing and discovered that it was trying to access the keychain while the machine thought it was in "dark wake" mode. This is Apple's internal name for Power Nap. There are two problems with this: I don't have Power Nap enabled and MM wasn't doing anything that should require the GUI to be active. I gave up trying to find the problem and it eventually went away as mysteriously as it started. I don't use SSH or NAT. Some of the servers are on my local network and some aren't. Mike On 15 Jul 2020, at 12:22, Randall Gellens wrote: I agree it seems (from what I can see) that MM thinks network problems are authentication problems. What's interesting is that the dialog box is for iCloud, which is not affected by the SSH issue. I also just now discovered that the dialog box can go away on its own. This morning, the laptop SSH connection had dropped, as has been happening the past few days. MM had the dialog box up asking for the iCloud password, and was displaying "(not available)" for those accounts that are reached over SSH (not iCloud). Without touching MM, I hunted in Keychain Access for the imap.mail.me.com password, and at one point when I went back to MM to check the exact wording in the dialog box, it had vanished. I hadn't yet reestablished the SSH, so the those accounts were still greyed out with "(not available)". ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] "Pending Submission"
Hi What is “Pending submission” ? .. For some reason emails form a specific account are in that state and I don’t know why. My settings are right - it’s not at my host - but emails seems to be stuck . Any help? Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Update - "Pending Submission"
The issue cleared when I rebooted my computer. Still interested in understanding what happened. Ideas? Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Alert sending from email address?
Hello all, Here is a need I’ve just discovered.. I would love it if when I’m about to send an email from this gmail address I get an alert that says something like “Do you really want to use this email?” With a yes or no I can click. Reason (and maybe there’s a better way) - I have 9 email addresses I manage through MM. (So glad I can!) They reflect different aspects of my professional and personal life and do a nice job of helping to manage email. I use my gmail account for list serves, newsletters, political news etc. Every now and then I inadvertently send an email from this address, especially if attached to a google doc!, and then that person uses it to correspond with me. Sometimes I don’t see an email for days. Yes, it would be good to check which email I’m sending from but I don’t always remember. Got a good solution? Thanks all. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Alert sending from email address?
OMG.. I’m so tickled I’m literally giggling all over the place. That was SO EASY! Well sort of. Not being a programmer I misinterpreted the directions a bit so will add this clarification for future readers of this thread. The line that will have the from etc still needs to have conditions = The condition you are doing - in my case from.. Etc needs to be in quotes. I know that this is a natural for the programmers but I had to think about it. I’m SO HAPPY - thank you. And yes got a few more conditions I’ll build in to manage the other emails. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 8 Oct 2020, at 10:07, Chaim Kram wrote: Very nice solution, thanks! -- Chaim Kram cha...@umich.edu On 7 Oct 2020, at 19:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote: Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 11:24:22 -0400 From: "Shoshanna Green" To: "MailMate Users" Subject: Re: [MlMt] Alert sending from email address? On 7 Oct 2020, at 10:10, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: I would love it if when I’m about to send an email from this gmail address I get an alert that says something like “Do you really want to use this email?” With a yes or no I can click. See "Custom Message Verifications" at https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences -- it will do exactly what you want! Copy the sample there to get the format the plist file needs to be in; then just replace the "conditions" line in the sample with from ~ 'YOUR-GMAIL-ADDRESS'; (which means "the From: line contains YOUR-GMAIL-ADDRESS") and set the "title" and "details" lines to display whatever alert you want to be alerted with. The easiest way to figure out how to format your conditions, if you're not fluent in whatever syntax plist files use, is to create a smart folder with the conditions you want and then inspect its definition by quitting MailMate and opening the mailboxes.plist file to see how the smart folder is defined there. You can check for multiple conditions at a time, and have as many independent verifications as you want. I have about a dozen, ensuring that I don't send work email from my church-board address, don't send board business messages from anything *but* my church-board address, don't send personal mail to a work contact, don't fail to BCC myself or use the wrong signature (I have auto-BCC set, but if I change the sending address after I've begun composing a message the BCC or sig sometimes fails to change accordingly), don't reply to a mailing list when I mean to reply to an individual poster, etc. etc. -- the ability to set up such verifications was one of the factors that originally drew me to MailMate! Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Support options
Aww, Benny - you make a wonderful email client and I’m immensely grateful I found MM. Every now and then I get a glance at what other folks are dealing with.. Don’t beat yourself up! Sebastian - This is a very active list of people who are interested in helping. I’m not sure what issues you were dealing with that went unanswered. Could it be that the reader wasn’t clear enough about the issue to be able to be of help? My two cents. Thanks! Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 18 Jan 2021, at 10:46, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 18 Jan 2021, at 16:28, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: I have now bought a MailMate license and I have become a patron (at the lowest level for now), but there are still unresolved problems. In any case, thanks for the support!! There seem to be three options for getting support: • this mailing list • the issue tracker (https://tracker.mailmate-app.com/tickets) • direct feedback to mm-i...@freron.com That is correct. I’m unclear on which is for what. I suppose the mailing list is basically community support. I have used the list with some success (thanks!), but for a few of my issues there was no reply. I'm very much behind on going through mailing list emails which were not replied by anyone else. Sorry about that. I would’ve assumed the issue tracker to be the main “proper” support method, but I see there are 1,188 open tickets! Yeah, I'm not proud of that either. That doesn’t instill a lot of confidence in me that tickets are actually looked at. That leaves “direct feedback”, which I have been hesitant to use, because it feels so intrusive. In your experience, should I use “direct feedback” for my unanswered questions? It's not intrusive when I don't react on the other channels. You could even say I deserve it. Users prefer different ways to communicate and therefore I don't enforce any strict rules, but it's natural that * the mailing is for questions which other users are likely to be able to answer, * the ticket system is for long term feature requests/issues in the current public release. (The user will be notified when the ticket is updated.) * direct email is for bug reports, in particular, in test releases and for anything which is not suitable for a public forum. As a general rule of thumb, the worse I seem to be at answering emails/tickets the more likely I am to be working on MailMate itself. Right now, I'm working on ironing out some bugs caused by recent changes (cleanup) of the code. When that's finished, it's likely I expect to have a test release available for the M1 macs. Finally, for your most pressing issues it's quite alright to write me directly to remind me about it. Again, I deserve it. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Rather basic but I'm stumped
Hi One day in the last two weeks as I was reading a bunch of email in one account, I opened one and when I deleted it, the next one opened for me. This is very useful but I haven’t figured out how to make it happen again. I’ve played with various options. It’s clearly the right set of actions in an order, but what are they? Thanks for help. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Rather basic but I'm stumped
Maybe we need to compare setups? It’s exactly what I mean.. Annamarie Pluhar On 6 Mar 2021, at 13:09, Randy Bush wrote: >> One day in the last two weeks as I was reading a bunch of email in one >> account, I opened one and when I deleted it, the next one opened for >> me. This is very useful but I haven’t figured out how to make it >> happen again. > > funny, i can't stop it :) assuming that by "open" you mean moving to > the next message and displaying header and content. > > and that's deleting with the del key, the little trash can, ... > > randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Resizing images
This is awesome.. and a reminder to explore more about what I can ask Alfred to do! For this following I did need to fix Image Events.. Thanks for improving my computer life.. Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 8 Mar 2021, at 9:45, Zak McClellan wrote: Jolin- I resize the images when I want them embedded in the email. If I am sending an attachment/file I will send as is, up to 20 MB. Above 20 MB I will link to a file. This is typically with PDF's through dropbox. I use an Alfred (v3.8.6) script to resize images. https://www.alfredforum.com/topic/8397-resize-image/ http://www.packal.org/workflow/resize-image This is usually with screenshots that I size down to fit on screen. Although this workflow is performed on the jpg/png in finder before I attach to the email message. I do not know of anything inside of MailMate (v2.0BETA 6151) that upon attaching a file or on send that reduces the email/image size. -Zak -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 11:28:30 + From: "Jolin Warren" To: "MailMate Users" Subject: [MlMt] Resizing images Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" One of the things that I think Apple Mail does really well is dealing with image attachments. In particular, when I’m sending a message and I need to include some photos to show what I’m talking about, Mail shows me the total size of the email with the images and lets me resize them, adjusting the displayed size to indicate the impact of the resizing:    How do people manage images in MailMate? I have to confess that when I need to included images in an email, particularly photos, I usually open up Mail and send the email from there. But I’d prefer to stay in MailMate, so is there a way to easily choose the size of any image attachments and see what size the email will be? -- => Jolin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.freron.com/pipermail/mailmate/attachments/20210308/f1bbedb0/attachment.htm> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedImage.png Type: image/png Size: 13593 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freron.com/pipermail/mailmate/attachments/20210308/f1bbedb0/attachment.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedImage.png Type: image/png Size: 12566 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freron.com/pipermail/mailmate/attachments/20210308/f1bbedb0/attachment-0001.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedImage.png Type: image/png Size: 13892 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.freron.com/pipermail/mailmate/attachments/20210308/f1bbedb0/attachment-0002.png> -- ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Mark as Not junk
So this is silly and a minor annoyance but I wondered if there’s a way to get MM to do it. I receive an email every day that contains 1-3 photos. I have the email going to a smart folder already. Is there a way to “mark as not junk” the email so that the pictures show and I don’t have to hit the “mark as not junk” button? I’m imaging this is an apple script - which is not something I’ve learned.. Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] MM crashing when I try to print
Hi This is probably related to Big Sur which I installed last weekend. Have discovered that I can’t print an email - either with the print icon or the command-p. Causes a crash. I don’t actually need to print the email - I use that route to PDF it to send receipts to our bookkeeper. Suggestions? I’m on Version 1.13.2 (5673). Thanks Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MM crashing when I try to print
Okay… so you are suggesting that I install it over the automatic upgrade that I have enabled in MM? MM says I’m up to date. As for a known bug, I went searching the archives and didn’t see a conversation.. how could I have missed it? Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 27 Jun 2021, at 14:31, Edward Thome wrote: On 27 Jun 2021, at 13:13, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Hi This is probably related to Big Sur which I installed last weekend. Have discovered that I can’t print an email - either with the print icon or the command-p. Causes a crash. I don’t actually need to print the email - I use that route to PDF it to send receipts to our bookkeeper. Suggestions? I’m on Version 1.13.2 (5673). Yes, that is a known bug, but printing on Big Sur works again as of r5737 forward. xhttps://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/ All the best, Ed ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MM crashing when I try to print
Thank you very much. An easy fix once I knew what to do. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 28 Jun 2021, at 9:24, Edward Thome wrote: > On 28 Jun 2021, at 8:11, Edward Thome wrote: > >> On 27 Jun 2021, at 16:06, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: >> >>> Okay… so you are suggesting that I install it over the automatic upgrade >>> that I have enabled in MM? MM says I’m up to date. >>> >>> As for a known bug, I went searching the archives and didn’t see a >>> conversation.. how could I have missed it? >>> >>> Annamarie Pluhar >>> 802-451-1941 >>> 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) >>> >> >> In the Archives, look under November 2020. >> >> https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2020-November/thread.html >> >> I have MailMate look for beta upgrades and for awhile there, it stopped >> showing new ones. So you might have to download one past r5737 and then let >> MailMate suggest what version is next. >> > > As for which release, here is what at the opening of the Release Notes under > r5798: > > **Revision 5798 (Sunday, April 18, 2021) — Version 1.14 Beta 2** > > The following is a rewrite of all test release notes since r5757. The > r5758-5797 releases all had arm64 (M1) support, but they were not directly > available to r5757 users via the test release branch. This changes with r5798 > which is now considered the best option for Big Sur users and, in particular, > for M1 users. > > Ed > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Signatures not working as expected
Hi I can’t figure out what’s wrong here. Not all my signatures are showing up as choices - nor are the signatures that I’ve assigned to addresses working. [Here](https://www.dropbox.com/s/q3ef6gkc05fkfnf/Signature%20preferences.png?dl=0) is what I have set up in preferences. [This](https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8bdwrrfpc4gi0m/Signature%20choices.png?dl=0) is the choices I have. I know that this isn’t right. I’m on Big Sur, MM Version 1.14 (5804). How can I fix it? Have I missed something obvious? Thanks Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Where is send later email?
Hi I consistently get a message when I want to quit MM that I have one message waiting to be sent. I can’t find it. It’s not in drafts. Where is it? How do I get rid of the message? I could simply send it - but not knowing what it is and that it is 7 months old I’m leery of doing that. Thanks for help. Annamarie ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Where is send later email?
Well I finally noticed this response.. (all my MM list goes to a smart folder that I read when I have time) .. found the Outbound folder nested inside “Examples”. Not where I would have looked! :) Thanks Annamarie On 10 Sep 2021, at 7:02, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: > there is a Outbound folder that has all unsent. > >> Hi >> >> I consistently get a message when I want to quit MM that I have one message >> waiting to be sent. I can’t find it. It’s not in drafts. Where is it? How do >> I get rid of the message? I could simply send it - but not knowing what it >> is and that it is 7 months old I’m leery of doing that. >> >> Thanks for help. >> Annamarie >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > /max > https://xam.dk/about > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Password popup box
Hi Why is this happening? I have many email accounts. The ones that are on my domain names are all managed by SiteGround. Sometimes several times a day, sometimes not for many days, I will suddenly get popups to enter the password for the account. Here’s a [screenshot.](https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpy03yafvmlt1in/Popup%20Password.png?dl=0). It’s mainly just annoying as the password autocompletes and I can just hit okay, but I guess I’d like to understand why it’s happening now and wasn’t before. I did change the server address thinking that might be the issue. Any help? Thanks Annamarie___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
