Re: [MlMt] Option not to Put Sent Messages in Sent Folder

2025-01-24 Thread froup via mailmate

On 24 Jan 2025, at 5:32, Jolin Warren wrote:

if you look at the headers in a message that the server copied to the 
Sent folder, you will find one or two headers that are unique to sent 
messages automatically copied by the 365 server. I then used one of 
these headers – `X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: 
Originating` – to create a rule on the Office 365 server:


```
Conditions:
   From: Jolin Warren
   Message header includes: 
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Originating


Actions:
   Delete

Stop processing more rules: ✓ticked
```


Hi Jolin,

Thanks you! This is really cool. I haven’t noticed those unique 
headers. And I think it might be better for me to create this rule in 
MailMate, in case I need to use Outlook web mail some times.


Best,
Froup
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Re: [MlMt] Option not to Put Sent Messages in Sent Folder

2025-01-24 Thread froup via mailmate

On 24 Jan 2025, at 10:24, ARC MM wrote:


Hi Froup,

In Mailmate you can specify a “sent” mailbox per account (mailbox 
type in the source dropdown menu (ctrl click)).


So you could have your “SentByMailMate” mailbox where MM would 
move the sent mail to ( and so you can decide afterwards to do with it 
what ever you like :-) )


Just my 5cts


Marc


Hi Marc,

Thanks for your tips! This seems worth trying. Also, I am copying Jolin 
Warren’s solution which is also cool below in case you or anyone 
reading this need it (weirdly, the mail from Jolin did not appear in my 
inbox or MM’s archive, just in the daily digest):


On 24 Jan 2025, at 5:32, Jolin Warren wrote:
if you look at the headers in a message that the server copied to the 
Sent folder, you will find one or two headers that are unique to sent 
messages automatically copied by the 365 server. I then used one of 
these headers – `X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: 
Originating` – to create a rule on the Office 365 server:


```
Conditions:
   From: Jolin Warren
   Message header includes: 
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Originating

Actions:
   Delete

Stop processing more rules: ✓ticked
```

This will delete the copy that Office 365 creates so you only have a 
single copy of your sent message (the one MailMate provides, which is 
the original before it’s been handed off to a mail server).



Best,
Froup
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[MlMt] Inbox never stops checking.

2025-01-24 Thread tracy
The last several betas have exhibited the same behavior: the inbox is 
continually checked ever second, or so it appears: the inbox count alternates 
with the spinning wheel once a second. It never stops.


Activities shows:

H11 logout
H8 NOOP
H10 UID MOVE 860:867, 871:904;912, 950:956 INBOX.TRASH
H7 UID FETCH 1:977 (UID FLAGS) (CHANGESINCE 1288)
H11 LOGOUT
H3 SELECT INBOX (CONDSTORE)

H10 UID MOVE 860:867, 871:904;912, 950:956 INBOX.TRASH
H7 UID FETCH 1:977 (UID FLAGS) (CHANGESINCE 1288)
H11 LOGOUT
H10 UID MOVE 860:867, 871:904;912, 950:956 INBOX.TRASH
H6 UID FETCH 978:* (INTERNALDATE)
H11 LOGOUT

... repeating forever

Suggestions appreciated. 


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Re: [MlMt] Inbox never stops checking.

2025-01-24 Thread Henry Seiden
Tracy,

Have you checked the Synchronization Setting of the Source account? The default 
is 10 min. But it may have been unexpectedly changed. Each Source added should 
have the same default unless there is some issue with the IMAP Server.

Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 24 Jan 2025, at 13:29, tr...@dlsi.biz wrote:

> The last several betas have exhibited the same behavior: the inbox is 
> continually checked ever second, or so it appears: the inbox count alternates 
> with the spinning wheel once a second. It never stops.
>
>
> Activities shows:
>
> H11 logout
> H8 NOOP
> H10 UID MOVE 860:867, 871:904;912, 950:956 INBOX.TRASH
> H7 UID FETCH 1:977 (UID FLAGS) (CHANGESINCE 1288)
> H11 LOGOUT
> H3 SELECT INBOX (CONDSTORE)
>
> H10 UID MOVE 860:867, 871:904;912, 950:956 INBOX.TRASH
> H7 UID FETCH 1:977 (UID FLAGS) (CHANGESINCE 1288)
> H11 LOGOUT
> H10 UID MOVE 860:867, 871:904;912, 950:956 INBOX.TRASH
> H6 UID FETCH 978:* (INTERNALDATE)
> H11 LOGOUT
>
> ... repeating forever
>
> Suggestions appreciated.
>
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Re: [MlMt] Option not to Put Sent Messages in Sent Folder

2025-01-24 Thread ARC MM via mailmate

Hi Froup,

In Mailmate you can specify a “sent” mailbox per account (mailbox 
type in the source dropdown menu (ctrl click)).


So you could have your “SentByMailMate” mailbox where MM would move 
the sent mail to ( and so you can decide afterwards to do with it what 
ever you like :-) )


Just my 5cts


Marc


On 11 Jan 2025, at 20:49, froup via mailmate wrote:


Hi,

As a relatively new user, I have been using MailMate for days and love 
it.


The only thing bothering me is that I am using MS Office 365 from my 
work account, and the server would automatically copy the sent 
messages to the Sent folder. So, with the same function provided by 
MailMate, there would always be duplicated messages in the folder.


I searched and read about the mail archive in the old mailing list, 
and kind of understand the design choice. However, years passed, and I 
am writing to kindly ask if there could be an per-account option for 
the user to disable client-side sent copy — just speaking for 
myself, I could risk losing sent messages (which could be rare to 
happen), I do not care downloading the same message from the server 
again (most people do not care about bandwidth used to download just 
some emails), but I find the duplicating problem really annoying, and 
I believe that I am not the only one who think so.


I would really appreciate it if you could consider the option, and it 
is also understandable to just keep the same design choice. Thank you.


Best,
Froup
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Re: [MlMt] Message list vertical font alignment

2025-01-24 Thread Jolin Warren
On 2 Jan 2025, at 14:31, Benjamin Coddington wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2025, at 8:26, Benjamin Coddington wrote:
>> After jumping up to Sequoia from Monterey, the text fields in the message 
>> list are shifted down such that some text parts are clipped, the threading 
>> delta seems shifted up slightly.  I've tried resetting fonts and the light 
>> height delta is zero - here's what its looking like:
>>
>> https://bcodding.com/p/mlmt-line-height-bcodding.png
>
> […]
>
> My issues seem to be caused by my selection of font attributes - Helvetica 
> Bold at 11.0 pt used to produce vertically-centered rows, but I've been able 
> to switch to Helvetica Neue Bold 12.0 pt with line height delta of -4.  This 
> produces the same density and experience as before.

I had the same issue when I updated to MailMate test version r6056 (on Sequoia) 
in August last year. I had some correspondence with Benny and it turned out 
that the issue doesn’t arise when using the MailMate default font (which is the 
system default ‘San Francisco’). With the default font you can set the size to 
whatever you want and the text remains vertically centred in message lists. 
Benny also made a note of the issue:

On 5 Aug 2024, at 12:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
> It's probably a bug in my code. It's surprisingly difficult to handle any 
> font, but it does appear there's a general issue at play here. I've made a 
> note of it.

Ben, it looks like you’ve found a solution but if you want another one you can 
reset the font to the default and then choose any size. And a future version of 
MailMate may fix the issue entirely.

-- 
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Re: [MlMt] Message list vertical font alignment

2025-01-24 Thread Henry Seiden
Jolin,

+1 on the font delta offset setting variation report with different display 
fonts in the main Message window.

Hint: monospace font are easier to deal with. In the main window, I use MS 
Consolas as the display font. Other mono-spaced fonts, like Menlo work 
similarly well. Other fonts, not so much. Maybe this will be a clue for Benny.

Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 24 Jan 2025, at 4:39, Jolin Warren wrote:

> On 2 Jan 2025, at 14:31, Benjamin Coddington wrote:
>> On 2 Jan 2025, at 8:26, Benjamin Coddington wrote:
>>> After jumping up to Sequoia from Monterey, the text fields in the message 
>>> list are shifted down such that some text parts are clipped, the threading 
>>> delta seems shifted up slightly.  I've tried resetting fonts and the light 
>>> height delta is zero - here's what its looking like:
>>>
>>> https://bcodding.com/p/mlmt-line-height-bcodding.png
>>
>> […]
>>
>> My issues seem to be caused by my selection of font attributes - Helvetica 
>> Bold at 11.0 pt used to produce vertically-centered rows, but I've been able 
>> to switch to Helvetica Neue Bold 12.0 pt with line height delta of -4.  This 
>> produces the same density and experience as before.
>
> I had the same issue when I updated to MailMate test version r6056 (on 
> Sequoia) in August last year. I had some correspondence with Benny and it 
> turned out that the issue doesn’t arise when using the MailMate default font 
> (which is the system default ‘San Francisco’). With the default font you can 
> set the size to whatever you want and the text remains vertically centred in 
> message lists. Benny also made a note of the issue:
>
> On 5 Aug 2024, at 12:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
>> It's probably a bug in my code. It's surprisingly difficult to handle any 
>> font, but it does appear there's a general issue at play here. I've made a 
>> note of it.
>
> Ben, it looks like you’ve found a solution but if you want another one you 
> can reset the font to the default and then choose any size. And a future 
> version of MailMate may fix the issue entirely.
>
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