Re: [MlMt] Signing or encryption failed for unknown reasons.
Hello, I still have this problem, that I neither can encrypt nor sign my mails. I always get the error: Signing or encryption failed for unknown reasons. any idea? Thanks Matthias On 19 Mar 2019, at 17:39, Matthias Schmidt via mailmate wrote: > Hello, > > I recently get the above error :( > Any idea? > cheers > Matthias ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attachment in headers display
Apologies for being unclear. By "headers display", I mean the set of information that you can alter through the View->Headers menu. "Attachment information" would be, well, information about attachments. Their number and names, for example. I am also skeptical that this can be accessed through the relevant plist for View->Headers, but worth asking. Thanks, Zvi On 23 Apr 2019, at 19:40, Randall Gellens wrote: On 23 Apr 2019, at 6:48, Zvi Biener wrote: Hi All, Has anyone modified the headers display to show attachment information? Not sure if that's possible, but if someone has done it, would you mind sharing? Thanks, Zvi I'm not sure what you mean by "the headers display" nor "attachment information." If you mean that you want to see if a message has an attachment when looking at the mailbox table of contents, there is a defined column for this that you can enable. If you mean that when looking at a message you want the header fields to include details on the attachments, I am not aware of a way to do that. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attachment in headers display
On 24 Apr 2019, at 5:27, Zvi Biener wrote: Apologies for being unclear. By "headers display", I mean the set of information that you can alter through the View->Headers menu. "Attachment information" would be, well, information about attachments. Their number and names, for example. I am also skeptical that this can be accessed through the relevant plist for View->Headers, but worth asking. There is no standardized top-level header field for attachment information. A message with attachments has a top-level Content-Type header field of multipart; each attachment is a body part with a Content-Type header field and typically an Attachment-Disposition header field indicating if the attachment is intended to be displayed in-line versus handled as a classic attachment. So I don't think attachment information logically belongs in the header view. However, MailMate does have options to display information about each attachment either at the top or bottom of a message. There is also the ability to display a paperclip icon for a message with an attachment in the table of contents view. If you right-click a message in the table of contents view, MailMate has some contextual menu items for attachments, including quick view and save. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attachment in headers display
On 24 Apr 2019, at 10:38, Randall Gellens wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 5:27, Zvi Biener wrote: Apologies for being unclear. By "headers display", I mean the set of information that you can alter through the View->Headers menu. "Attachment information" would be, well, information about attachments. Their number and names, for example. I am also skeptical that this can be accessed through the relevant plist for View->Headers, but worth asking. There is no standardized top-level header field for attachment information. A message with attachments has a top-level Content-Type header field of multipart; each attachment is a body part with a Content-Type header field and typically an Attachment-Disposition header field indicating if the attachment is intended to be displayed in-line versus handled as a classic attachment. So I don't think attachment information logically belongs in the header view. However, MailMate does have options to display information about each attachment either at the top or bottom of a message. There is also the ability to display a paperclip icon for a message with an attachment in the table of contents view. If you right-click a message in the table of contents view, MailMate has some contextual menu items for attachments, including quick view and save. --Randall Related to this, but not concerning attachments… Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header area of a message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses gmail corporate, and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special accounts. In other words, I can login to my account and have access to send and receive on behalf of some generic accounts like support@ and info@ and so on. People using the gmail browser client can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that account. I of course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information is an extra field in the message’s header. Best rgds, Verdon ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] attachment in headers display
My apologies, I accidentally typed an invalid header field name (I typed "Attachment-Disposition" when of course I was thinking "Content-Disposition"). --Randall On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:38, Randall Gellens wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 5:27, Zvi Biener wrote: Apologies for being unclear. By "headers display", I mean the set of information that you can alter through the View->Headers menu. "Attachment information" would be, well, information about attachments. Their number and names, for example. I am also skeptical that this can be accessed through the relevant plist for View->Headers, but worth asking. There is no standardized top-level header field for attachment information. A message with attachments has a top-level Content-Type header field of multipart; each attachment is a body part with a Content-Type header field and typically an Attachment-Disposition header field indicating if the attachment is intended to be displayed in-line versus handled as a classic attachment. So I don't think attachment information logically belongs in the header view. However, MailMate does have options to display information about each attachment either at the top or bottom of a message. There is also the ability to display a paperclip icon for a message with an attachment in the table of contents view. If you right-click a message in the table of contents view, MailMate has some contextual menu items for attachments, including quick view and save. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:49, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Related to this, but not concerning attachments… Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header area of a message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses gmail corporate, and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special accounts. In other words, I can login to my account and have access to send and receive on behalf of some generic accounts like support@ and info@ and so on. People using the gmail browser client can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that account. I of course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information is an extra field in the message’s header. You want to add a specific header field to the set that is shown in a message view? That seems very useful. I don't see an easy way to do that. Perhaps someone else on the list can answer. (It might be possible to edit the MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css, as mentioned in https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization, but I don't know and have never done it). The View -> Show Raw Message command will show all header fields, but likely this isn't what you want. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:23, Randall Gellens wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:49, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Related to this, but not concerning attachments… Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header area of a message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses gmail corporate, and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special accounts. In other words, I can login to my account and have access to send and receive on behalf of some generic accounts like support@ and info@ and so on. People using the gmail browser client can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that account. I of course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information is an extra field in the message’s header. You want to add a specific header field to the set that is shown in a message view? That seems very useful. I don't see an easy way to do that. Perhaps someone else on the list can answer. (It might be possible to edit the MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css, as mentioned in https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization, but I don't know and have never done it). The View -> Show Raw Message command will show all header fields, but likely this isn't what you want. --Randall Thank you for the reference to the customization page. I’d forgotten that and will look there. Your understanding of the scenario is exactly right. Also thanks for changing the subject of the message. I should know better ;-) — Verdon ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
Since i Like to have the "source mailbox" as row in the header section of a message: To combine both ideas it would be nice to have a generic setting for additional header rows where a user can add one or more rows with meta data from the message (or some of the possible calculations) Von meinem iDingens gesendet... > Am 24.04.2019 um 17:30 schrieb Verdon Vaillancourt : > >> On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:23, Randall Gellens wrote: >> >>> On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:49, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: >>> >>> Related to this, but not concerning attachments… >>> >>> Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header area of a >>> message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses gmail corporate, >>> and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special accounts. In other words, I >>> can login to my account and have access to send and receive on behalf of >>> some generic accounts like support@ and info@ and so on. People using the >>> gmail browser client can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that >>> account. I of course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information >>> is an extra field in the message’s header. >> >> You want to add a specific header field to the set that is shown in a >> message view? That seems very useful. I don't see an easy way to do that. >> Perhaps someone else on the list can answer. (It might be possible to edit >> the MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css, as mentioned in >> https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization, but I don't know and have >> never done it). >> >> The View -> Show Raw Message command will show all header fields, but likely >> this isn't what you want. >> >> --Randall > > Thank you for the reference to the customization page. I’d forgotten that and > will look there. Your understanding of the scenario is exactly right. Also > thanks for changing the subject of the message. I should know better ;-) > > — Verdon > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
I've attached a copy of headersFormatting.plist, which controls the
headers display. I'm sure it is an awful hack (I'm not a programmer).
But it does display the source mailbox (as "Folder"), as long as your
select View->Headers->list. You can emulate that part of the code.
Zvi
On 24 Apr 2019, at 12:36, Michael Nietzold wrote:
Since i Like to have the "source mailbox" as row in the header section
of a message:
To combine both ideas it would be nice to have a generic setting for
additional header rows where a user can add one or more rows with
meta data from the message (or some of the possible calculations)
Von meinem iDingens gesendet...
Am 24.04.2019 um 17:30 schrieb Verdon Vaillancourt
:
On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:23, Randall Gellens wrote:
On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:49, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote:
Related to this, but not concerning attachments…
Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header
area of a message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses
gmail corporate, and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special
accounts. In other words, I can login to my account and have access
to send and receive on behalf of some generic accounts like
support@ and info@ and so on. People using the gmail browser client
can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that account. I of
course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information is an
extra field in the message’s header.
You want to add a specific header field to the set that is shown in
a message view? That seems very useful. I don't see an easy way to
do that. Perhaps someone else on the list can answer. (It might be
possible to edit the MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css, as mentioned
in https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization, but I don't know
and have never done it).
The View -> Show Raw Message command will show all header fields,
but likely this isn't what you want.
--Randall
Thank you for the reference to the customization page. I’d
forgotten that and will look there. Your understanding of the
scenario is exactly right. Also thanks for changing the subject of
the message. I should know better ;-)
— Verdon
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{
defaultFormatting = "shortFormatting";
shortFormatting =
{
children =
(
{
formatString = "${#signed:+✓}";
suffix = { string = " "; };
singleClick = { selector = "showDetails:"; };
toolTip = { formatString = "This message is
signed."; };
},
{
formatString = "${#encrypted:+🔒}";
suffix = { string = " "; };
singleClick = { selector = "showDetails:"; };
toolTip = { formatString = "This message is
encrypted."; };
},
{
separatorString = "";
sharedPrefix = "##tags.tag";
children =
(
{
formatString =
"${##tags.tag.#shortname}";
singleClick =
{
titleFormatting = {
prefixString = "Tagged "; formatString = "“${##tags.tag.#name}”"; };
queryFormatting = {
formatString = "##tags.tag = '${##tags.tag}'"; escapeSingleQuotes = 1; };
};
copyValues =
(
{ title = '';
valueFormatting = { formatString = '${##tags.tag.#name}'; }; },
{ titleFormatting =
'Server Keyword (${##tags.tag})'; valueFormatting = { formatString =
'${##tags.tag}'; }; },
);
},
);
},
{
string = "“";
},
{
formatString = "${subject.prefix}";
suffix = { string = " "; };
// link stuff
},
Re: [MlMt] attachment in headers display
Thanks. Indeed, I have the paperclip and the bottom-listing displayed already. I was just curious, as the headers display is a particularly efficient way (for me) to get information. Thanks. On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:11, Randall Gellens wrote: My apologies, I accidentally typed an invalid header field name (I typed "Attachment-Disposition" when of course I was thinking "Content-Disposition"). --Randall On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:38, Randall Gellens wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 5:27, Zvi Biener wrote: Apologies for being unclear. By "headers display", I mean the set of information that you can alter through the View->Headers menu. "Attachment information" would be, well, information about attachments. Their number and names, for example. I am also skeptical that this can be accessed through the relevant plist for View->Headers, but worth asking. There is no standardized top-level header field for attachment information. A message with attachments has a top-level Content-Type header field of multipart; each attachment is a body part with a Content-Type header field and typically an Attachment-Disposition header field indicating if the attachment is intended to be displayed in-line versus handled as a classic attachment. So I don't think attachment information logically belongs in the header view. However, MailMate does have options to display information about each attachment either at the top or bottom of a message. There is also the ability to display a paperclip icon for a message with an attachment in the table of contents view. If you right-click a message in the table of contents view, MailMate has some contextual menu items for attachments, including quick view and save. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:30, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:23, Randall Gellens wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:49, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Related to this, but not concerning attachments… Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header area of a message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses gmail corporate, and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special accounts. In other words, I can login to my account and have access to send and receive on behalf of some generic accounts like support@ and info@ and so on. People using the gmail browser client can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that account. I of course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information is an extra field in the message’s header. You want to add a specific header field to the set that is shown in a message view? That seems very useful. I don't see an easy way to do that. Perhaps someone else on the list can answer. (It might be possible to edit the MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css, as mentioned in https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization, but I don't know and have never done it). The View -> Show Raw Message command will show all header fields, but likely this isn't what you want. --Randall Thank you for the reference to the customization page. I’d forgotten that and will look there. Your understanding of the scenario is exactly right. Also thanks for changing the subject of the message. I should know better ;-) The main file you need to override is /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist so you need to create ~/Library/Application Support/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist. You should start with a copy of the original and adapt it. You might also need to supplement /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Frameworks/OakMIME.framework/Versions/A/Resources/specifiers.plist which is done by adding a file with additional parser definitions at ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/specifiers.plist -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Available For Hire: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
On 24 Apr 2019, at 13:17, Bill Cole wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:30, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:23, Randall Gellens wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:49, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Related to this, but not concerning attachments… Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header area of a message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses gmail corporate, and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special accounts. In other words, I can login to my account and have access to send and receive on behalf of some generic accounts like support@ and info@ and so on. People using the gmail browser client can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that account. I of course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information is an extra field in the message’s header. You want to add a specific header field to the set that is shown in a message view? That seems very useful. I don't see an easy way to do that. Perhaps someone else on the list can answer. (It might be possible to edit the MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css, as mentioned in https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization, but I don't know and have never done it). The View -> Show Raw Message command will show all header fields, but likely this isn't what you want. --Randall Thank you for the reference to the customization page. I’d forgotten that and will look there. Your understanding of the scenario is exactly right. Also thanks for changing the subject of the message. I should know better ;-) The main file you need to override is /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist so you need to create ~/Library/Application Support/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist. You should start with a copy of the original and adapt it. You might also need to supplement /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Frameworks/OakMIME.framework/Versions/A/Resources/specifiers.plist which is done by adding a file with additional parser definitions at ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/specifiers.plist Thanks for the tip on where/how to override the specifiers file. For my circumstance, I believe I will need that as well as the formatting file. Should be fun! v ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
Your file is very different from mine. Are you using the 1.x series of MM or the 2.x beta version? I’m using the 2.x beta and suspect that’s the reason for so many differences throughout the file. v On 24 Apr 2019, at 13:03, Zvi Biener wrote: I've attached a copy of headersFormatting.plist, which controls the headers display. I'm sure it is an awful hack (I'm not a programmer). But it does display the source mailbox (as "Folder"), as long as your select View->Headers->list. You can emulate that part of the code. Zvi On 24 Apr 2019, at 12:36, Michael Nietzold wrote: Since i Like to have the "source mailbox" as row in the header section of a message: To combine both ideas it would be nice to have a generic setting for additional header rows where a user can add one or more rows with meta data from the message (or some of the possible calculations) Von meinem iDingens gesendet... Am 24.04.2019 um 17:30 schrieb Verdon Vaillancourt : On 24 Apr 2019, at 11:23, Randall Gellens wrote: On 24 Apr 2019, at 7:49, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: Related to this, but not concerning attachments… Is there a low-level way to hack what is displayed in the header area of a message view? Specifically, the company I work for uses gmail corporate, and a lot of ‘delegation’ access to special accounts. In other words, I can login to my account and have access to send and receive on behalf of some generic accounts like support@ and info@ and so on. People using the gmail browser client can see what delegate was sending on behalf of that account. I of course cannot see that in MailMate. The delegate information is an extra field in the message’s header. You want to add a specific header field to the set that is shown in a message view? That seems very useful. I don't see an easy way to do that. Perhaps someone else on the list can answer. (It might be possible to edit the MmMessagesWebView/stylesheet.css, as mentioned in https://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization, but I don't know and have never done it). The View -> Show Raw Message command will show all header fields, but likely this isn't what you want. --Randall Thank you for the reference to the customization page. I’d forgotten that and will look there. Your understanding of the scenario is exactly right. Also thanks for changing the subject of the message. I should know better ;-) — Verdon ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
The main file you need to override is /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist so you need to create ~/Library/Application Support/Resources/Layouts/headersFormatting.plist. You should start with a copy of the original and adapt it. You might also need to supplement /Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Frameworks/OakMIME.framework/Versions/A/Resources/specifiers.plist which is done by adding a file with additional parser definitions at ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Resources/specifiers.plist Thanks for the tip on where/how to override the specifiers file. For my circumstance, I believe I will need that as well as the formatting file. Should be fun! This actually worked really well and was easy. Although I added a shorthand to the specifiers.plist file for ‘delegate’, I’m not sure I actually needed it, as the headers field ‘sender’ was already available to me in that file, and I didn’t actually reference the delegate shorthand in the headersFormatting.plist when I started working in there. I basically just copied the section for “From” in the headersFormatting.plist file and changed all instances of “From” and “from” in the new section to “Sender” and “sender” and restarted MailiMate. Now when I am viewing a message that has both a from and a sender field in the header, they are both displayed and in a standard message with just the from field, only that is displayed. The conditional logic behind it must be elsewhere. Simple and brilliant customization. Thanks for the pointer! v ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Adding header fields to message view (was " attachment in headers display")
On 24 Apr 2019, at 9:36, Michael Nietzold wrote: Since i Like to have the "source mailbox" as row in the header section of a message: To combine both ideas it would be nice to have a generic setting for additional header rows where a user can add one or more rows with meta data from the message (or some of the possible calculations) Von meinem iDingens gesendet... Eudora for Mac took the opposite approach: it defined a set of "boring" header fields that it omitted from the message view. A message could always be viewed in raw form, which Eudora called "Blah Blah Blah" which would show everything. The set of boring header fields was available after enabling the "Esoteric Settings" option, which caused a preference pane called "Boring Headers" to be available. This was a list of header field prefixes, one per line, that Eudora would omit from a message display (except in "Blah Blah Blah" view). Header fields not in the list were displayed. It would be good if MailMate had a UI mechanism for choosing which header fields are displayed in message views. (By the way, Eudora had a large set of hidden preferences that were not part of the primary UI, but could be edited by use of the "X-Eudora-Setting" URI. You'd have the string where "xxx" was the setting number to change somewhere in a Eudora message (you could type it in to a composition window or have it saved as a stationery or send it to yourself -- I had a stationery (permanent draft message) with the full list) and Eudora would recognize it as a clickable URI. Clicking it brought up a primitive control that listed a brief text description of the setting, showed the current value, and let you set a new value. It was a serviceable kluge allowing end users to change hidden settings without risk of messing up a critical file. For the full list, see: https://web.archive.org/web/20050924173435/www.eudora.com/techsupport/mac/download/X-Eudora-Settings.txt) --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
