[MlMt] Bug Mark as Unread

[Olivier Bedouelle]

I'm use Mailmate 3839.

It's not possible to mark as Unread or read a message. A shortcut and 
menu don't   work.



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Re: [MlMt] Bug Mark as Unread

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:21, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:


I'm use Mailmate 3839.

It's not possible to mark as Unread or read a message. A shortcut and 
menu don't   work.


I didn't change much and it works for me. Maybe it is a more general 
issue.


Does any other shortcuts work?

What if you relaunch MailMate?

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Re: [MlMt] Bug Mark as Unread

[Thomas Eckhold]

Shortcuts are working for me as well.
Thomas

On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:21, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:


I'm use Mailmate 3839.

It's not possible to mark as Unread or read a message. A shortcut and 
menu don't   work.


I didn't change much and it works for me. Maybe it is a more general 
issue.


Does any other shortcuts work?

What if you relaunch MailMate?

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Re: [MlMt] Bug Mark as Unread

[James Perry]

Shortcuts are working for me, too. Same build.

On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:28, Thomas Eckhold wrote:


Shortcuts are working for me as well.
Thomas

On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:21, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:


I'm use Mailmate 3839.

It's not possible to mark as Unread or read a message. A shortcut 
and menu don't   work.


I didn't change much and it works for me. Maybe it is a more general 
issue.


Does any other shortcuts work?

What if you relaunch MailMate?

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Re: [MlMt] Bug Mark as Unread

[Olivier Bedouelle]

I find,

In preference ->security
Image blocking is enable for message in a folder unread. if i chose All 
message I don't have a problème.


It's normal ?


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On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:30, James Perry wrote:


Shortcuts are working for me, too. Same build.

On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:28, Thomas Eckhold wrote:


Shortcuts are working for me as well.
Thomas

On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:21, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:


I'm use Mailmate 3839.

It's not possible to mark as Unread or read a message. A shortcut 
and menu don't   work.


I didn't change much and it works for me. Maybe it is a more general 
issue.


Does any other shortcuts work?

What if you relaunch MailMate?

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Re: [MlMt] Bug Mark as Unread

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 16:33, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:


In preference ->security
Image blocking is enable for message in a folder unread. if i chose 
All message I don't have a problème.


It's normal ?


First I thought, what on Earth are you talking about.

Then I found out that I can reproduce the issue. It must be related to 
the message being re-selected somehow and then re-triggering the 
auto-read feature. I've noted it as a bug.


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Re: [MlMt] Keyboard Shortcut to Moveto/GoTo Source Mailboxes

[Will Styler]

Benny,

Thank you very much, I've got it working now.  I definitely understand that 
keybindings are a particularly geeky thing, but it's the reason why Mailmate is 
about to win me away from Mutt after many years (which is HARD to do). GUI 
isn't really necessary, as everything else has been easily configured, but a 
more standard hook for keybinding to account mailboxes (SourceName/Boxname?) 
would have made the transition much easier, as well as some method for 
debugging keystrokes (as I've listened to a lot of beeps in the last few days, 
only to realize that I'd double-assigned something, etc.).

Would you be receptive to a few further suggestions for bindable actions?

Thanks!

Will


On 14 Nov 2013, at 0:33, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 14 Nov 2013, at 1:44, Will Styler wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the quick response.  Unfortunately, I can't seem to get that to 
>> work.  I've tried:
>>
>>  "m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "imaps://mail.server.com/INBOX/Temp" );
>>  "m" = ( "goToMailbox:", 
>> "imaps://mail.server.com:993/INBOX/Temp" );
>>  "m" = ( "goToMailbox:", "imaps://mail.server.com/Temp" );
>>
>> And none appear to resolve.  Any further advice?  Am I missing something 
>> silly?
>
> No, it's tricky. It's documented 
> [here](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings#special_actions) 
> but not very well. The best you can do is to simply see how the IMAP account 
> name is encoded here:
>
>   ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/IMAP/
>
> And it's always `imap:`, for example:
>
>   imap://usern...@mail.server.com/INBOX/Temp
>
> or if the username itself contains a `@` then it'll be something like:
>
>   imap://user%40server@mail.server.com/INBOX/Temp
>
> Creating custom key bindings is a low level feature and this would of course 
> be much easier if it had some kind of GUI (no plans to do so though). In this 
> particular case, configuring a shortcut to go to a particular mailbox is on 
> the todo as part of some planned changes for the mailbox editor.
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Re: [MlMt] Keyboard Shortcut to Moveto/GoTo Source Mailboxes

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 17:38, Will Styler wrote:

Thank you very much, I've got it working now.  I definitely understand 
that keybindings are a particularly geeky thing, but it's the reason 
why Mailmate is about to win me away from Mutt after many years (which 
is HARD to do). GUI isn't really necessary, as everything else has 
been easily configured, but a more standard hook for keybinding to 
account mailboxes (SourceName/Boxname?) would have made the transition 
much easier,


Yes, this is why I would like to put it in the mailbox editor (which is 
currently work-in-progress).


as well as some method for debugging keystrokes (as I've listened to a 
lot of beeps in the last few days, only to realize that I'd 
double-assigned something, etc.).


Yes, but it's not straightforward how to do that (without using more 
work than it would require to make a GUI for keybindings).


Would you be receptive to a few further suggestions for bindable 
actions?


Yes.

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Re: [MlMt] Inline images

[Jeffrey Horn]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 2:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 14 Nov 2013, at 0:57, Jeffrey Horn wrote:

I suppose I could just check the box and create a custom keyboard 
shortcut for marking "Not Junk". I like the idea of blocking images 
unless I choose otherwise, but clicking "Not Junk" breaks my keyboard 
flow.



A bit off topic, but I have also been asked about what MailMate can do 
to learn from the messages marked as “Not Junk” for future 
incoming messages (without SpamSieve).


Not off-topic at all! I hesitated to ask this very thing.


Here is a suggestion which I haven't tested:

1. Create a smart mailbox showing all messages with the “Not Junk” 
keyword.
2. Create a smart mailbox with all messages which *do not* have the 
same sender as one of the “Not Junk” messages:


The condition in smart mailbox 2 looks like this:

From ▸ Address is not in “Not Junk mailbox” From ▸ Address

Finally, use that mailbox in the Security preferences pane for image 
blocking. Feedback is welcome with respect to whether or not this 
actually works :-)


Excellent! I don't even have to pay attention to the smart mailboxes, 
just "Junk" and "Not Junk" as usual. Thanks, Benny!
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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 17:51, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:

Will’s message just came through with the (attached) error showing 
in MailMate.  Does this mean that *he’s* doing something wrong, or 
that *I* am?


It means that MailMate cannot verify the signature added by Will (the 
proof that he wrote the message).


I don’t find the “details” very helpful, though I might if I 
understand PGP at all:


You don't need the details. The error in the banner tells you what the 
problem is. You need to install GPGTools if you want MailMate to able to 
verify the signature. (The banner wrongly uses the word “create”. I 
should fix that.)


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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages

[Will Styler]

Erik,

I show my sent message as verified just fine.  I've installed GPG using 
GPGTools, and Mailmate had no problem doing all the GPG-ish things I love, 
without any configuration.

Will


On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 14 Nov 2013, at 17:51, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:
>
>> Will’s message just came through with the (attached) error showing in 
>> MailMate.  Does this mean that *he’s* doing something wrong, or that *I* am?
>
> It means that MailMate cannot verify the signature added by Will (the proof 
> that he wrote the message).
>
>> I don’t find the “details” very helpful, though I might if I understand PGP 
>> at all:
>
> You don't need the details. The error in the banner tells you what the 
> problem is. You need to install GPGTools if you want MailMate to able to 
> verify the signature. (The banner wrongly uses the word “create”. I should 
> fix that.)
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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages

[Erik Mueller-Harder]

Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

It means that MailMate cannot verify the signature added by Will (the 
proof that he wrote the message) You need to install GPGTools if 
you want MailMate to able to verify the signature.


and Will Styler wrote:

I show my sent message as verified just fine. I've installed GPG using 
GPGTools, and Mailmate had no problem doing all the GPG-ish things I 
love, without any configuration.


 So because Will has sent this as a secure message and because I 
somehow have a copy of MailMate that doesn’t include GPGTools, I get a 
message that seems to imply that Will’s message is somehow less 
verifiable than all the messages that I get that *don’t* have any 
errors?


This seems less than intuitive.

What should I tell my wife or my mother-in-law when they see an error 
like this?


And is there something I should do to make sure that my copy of MailMate 
supports GPG?  (And is it “GPG” or “PGP”?  I’d thought it was 
“PGP” for “pretty good privacy”.)


Thanks for any further elucidation,

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[MlMt] Suggested Keyboard Shortcuts

[Will Styler]

So, Mailmate is awesome in many ways, but most importantly, it's the first 
multi-window, GUI-able Mac Mail Client that I've found which is as 
keyboard-friendly as mutt, and thus, allows me to power through my mail as 
quickly.

I've got most of my Mutt shortcuts ported over, but a few desires remain.  I've 
checked the Key Binding Selectors page, but can't figure out ways to do the 
following:

1) When composing, add (and select for addition) the CC/BCC/Later box.  
Ideally, such shortcuts would display the field if hidden, and select them for 
entry if visible .

2) I'd love to be able to hide/show the mailboxes sidebar with a single key 
(e.g. "b"), but this isn't configurable using the OSX keyboard panel.  Would a 
hook within the app be possible?

3) Similarly, I'd love to be able to show and hide message view with a single 
key.  Another way to approach this would be to have a mutt layout, where the 
message view is hidden ("index") until a message is selected and then "enter", 
at which point the message view shows up.  

4) Filter by attribute.  Right now, if I use the filter key, it starts me off 
filtering by "From" with the entry box selected, which is well and good, but 
req  uires significant mousing to set criteria.  I'd love the ability to set 
something like:

"/" = {
"f" = ( "FilterBy:", "From" );
"t" = ( "FilterBy:", "To" );
"s" = ( "FilterBy:", "Subject" );
"a" = ( "FilterBy:", "Any Header" );
"d" = ( "FilterBy:", "Date" );  "g" = ( "FilterBy:", 
"Tags/Keywords" );
};

Which would allow me to "/a Martha /s conference" (look for any message where 
anybody named Martha's been involved, then add another criterion where the 
message's subject has mentioned a conference).  That would be incredibly 
powerful and quick.

None of these are crucial, and you've already got my money (I'm really rooting 
for IndieGogo), but as you're working on 2.x, those would be great to consider.

Thanks!

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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages

[Will Styler]

Erik,

Realize that GPGTools is separate software, downloadable elsewhere.  I've had 
GPG (which is GnuPG, which is a free-and-open-source version of PGP) installed 
for a long time for Mutt, and I assume that MailMate was just smart enough to 
read my configuration and figure it out.

It's not that I have a special copy of MailMate, just that I've set up GPG 
before, and as such, MailMate read it.

The issue of GPG messages being unverifiable without GPG is a universal one.  
It's rather like if only one out of the 90 apples at the store has a label 
saying "Wash this apple, it may be coated in pesticides".  Naive buyers may 
assume that that Apple's different, rather than that that one apple is simply 
more honest, and all of them may be coated in pesticides.

Grandma, if using MM without GPGTools, may look at my message and go "Whoa, 
sketchy".  That's a risk I take when I sign mail.  But I assume that most of 
the people I talk with either a) Won't care or b) Will look into GPG Tools, or 
c) Have it installed, and will appreciate the assurances.

I appreciate the way MM handles the signatures.  It's a good way to raise 
awareness that such things exist.

Just my two cents,

Will



On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:07, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:

> Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
>
>> It means that MailMate cannot verify the signature added by Will (the proof 
>> that he wrote the message) You need to install GPGTools if you want 
>> MailMate to able to verify the signature.
>
> and Will Styler wrote:
>
>> I show my sent message as verified just fine. I've installed GPG using 
>> GPGTools, and Mailmate had no problem doing all the GPG-ish things I love, 
>> without any configuration.
>
> So because Will has sent this as a secure message and because I somehow have 
> a copy of MailMate that doesn’t include GPGTools, I get a message that seems 
> to imply that Will’s message is somehow less verifiable than all the messages 
> that I get that *don’t* have any errors?
>
> This seems less than intuitive.
>
> What should I tell my wife or my mother-in-law when they see an error like 
> this?
>
> And is there something I should do to make sure that my copy of MailMate 
> supports GPG?  (And is it “GPG” or “PGP”?  I’d thought it was “PGP” for 
> “pretty good privacy”.)
>
> Thanks for any further elucidation,
>
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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 18:07, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:

I know this is not the issue, but just for the record, GPGTools is 
available [here](https://gpgtools.org). It's actually GPG Suite that 
should be installed (I recommend installing the parts named MacGPG and 
GPG Keychain).


So because Will has sent this as a secure message and because I 
somehow have a copy of MailMate that doesn’t include GPGTools, I get 
a message that seems to imply that Will’s message is somehow less 
verifiable than all the messages that I get that *don’t* have any 
errors?


This seems less than intuitive.


Will Styler answered this, but I'd like to add that if you have disabled 
“verification and decryption” in the Security preferences pane then 
the banner should not be shown. It's on by default though, but maybe I 
shouldn't do that…


(And is it “GPG” or “PGP”?  I’d thought it was “PGP” for 
“pretty good privacy”.)


It's two implementations of the [OpenPGP 
standard](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4880). GPG stands for GNU 
Privacy Guard. And yes, it's pretty confusing.


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[MlMt] Too many logins?

[Will Styler]

Sorry to be so vocal here, but today's my day for setting up Mailmate.

So, my IMAP server (fast mail) only allows 1000 logins/hour.  I've not run into 
this limit in any app (except OfflineIMAP, but that's a whole other bag of 
issues), yet this seems to be happening often in Mailmate.

I've currently got all mailboxes but INBOX set to "manual", and INBOX is set to 
CONNECTED (which I assume means "IDLE").  The activity viewer shows one IDLE 
for inbox, but somehow, I've just hit the limit again.

Help!

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Re: [MlMt] Too many logins?

[Will Styler]

Looking at it again, now that my hour has expired, I'm getting, in addition to 
the IDLE,

"I0 Capability" then "I5 Logout" over and over again.  There are occasional: 
"Failed to Select Mailbox 'Drafts' errors in that I0/I5 vacillation's logs.  
Which is odd, because that mailbox does exist.

C: I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)
S: I4 NO Mailbox does not exist
Error: Server response: “I4 NO Mailbox does not exist”. Command attempted: “I4 
SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)”.
Error: Failed to select mailbox 'Drafts'

Does that provide more info?

Thanks!

Will

On 14 Nov 2013, at 13:01, Will Styler wrote:

> Sorry to be so vocal here, but today's my day for setting up Mailmate.
>
> So, my IMAP server (fast mail) only allows 1000 logins/hour.  I've not run 
> into this limit in any app (except OfflineIMAP, but that's a whole other bag 
> of issues), yet this seems to be happening often in Mailmate.
>
> I've currently got all mailboxes but INBOX set to "manual", and INBOX is set 
> to CONNECTED (which I assume means "IDLE").  The activity viewer shows one 
> IDLE for inbox, but somehow, I've just hit the limit again.
>
> Help!
>
> Will
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Re: [MlMt] Too many logins?

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 21:01, Will Styler wrote:

So, my IMAP server (fast mail) only allows 1000 logins/hour.  I've not 
run into this limit in any app (except OfflineIMAP, but that's a whole 
other bag of issues), yet this seems to be happening often in 
Mailmate.


This is new to me, but it could of course be a bug only affecting some 
users.


I've currently got all mailboxes but INBOX set to "manual", and INBOX 
is set to CONNECTED (which I assume means "IDLE").  The activity 
viewer shows one IDLE for inbox, but somehow, I've just hit the limit 
again.


If MailMate is somehow “busy looping”, i.e., repeatedly reconnecting 
to the server then you should be able to see it in the Activity Viewer. 
Note that you can click on the connections to see the log in the lower 
part of the window.


MailMate also reuses connections which means that it does not reconnect 
to synchronize a mailbox if it already has a connection to the server 
(these connections time out though after a few minutes).


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Re: [MlMt] Too many logins?

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 22:02, Will Styler wrote:

Looking at it again, now that my hour has expired, I'm getting, in 
addition to the IDLE,


"I0 Capability" then "I5 Logout" over and over again.


Oh, so it is a busy loop bug. Thanks for reporting this.

There are occasional: "Failed to Select Mailbox 'Drafts' errors in 
that I0/I5 vacillation's logs.  Which is odd, because that mailbox 
does exist.


C: I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)
S: I4 NO Mailbox does not exist
Error: Server response: “I4 NO Mailbox does not exist”. Command 
attempted: “I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)”.

Error: Failed to select mailbox 'Drafts'

Does that provide more info?


Yes, MailMate does the wrong thing. It should be `INBOX/Drafts` for that 
server. You might be able to fix it by looking at this file:


~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist

Look for the `drafts` key (if there is one). But I would of course like 
to find out how it got into this state (the tricky part). And I should 
also look into why it busy-looped instead of failing after a few 
attempts (the easy part I hope).


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Re: [MlMt] Too many logins?

[Will Styler]

Benny,


On 14 Nov 2013, at 14:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 14 Nov 2013, at 22:02, Will Styler wrote:
>
>> Looking at it again, now that my hour has expired, I'm getting, in addition 
>> to the IDLE,
>>
>> "I0 Capability" then "I5 Logout" over and over again.
>
> Oh, so it is a busy loop bug. Thanks for reporting this.
>
>> There are occasional: "Failed to Select Mailbox 'Drafts' errors in that 
>> I0/I5 vacillation's logs.  Which is odd, because that mailbox does exist.
>>
>> C: I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)
>> S: I4 NO Mailbox does not exist
>> Error: Server response: “I4 NO Mailbox does not exist”. Command attempted: 
>> “I4 SELECT Drafts (CONDSTORE)”.
>> Error: Failed to select mailbox 'Drafts'
>>
>> Does that provide more info?
>
> Yes, MailMate does the wrong thing. It should be `INBOX/Drafts` for that 
> server. You might be able to fix it by looking at this file:
>
>  ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist
>
> Look for the `drafts` key (if there is one). But I would of course like to 
> find out how it got into this state (the tricky part). And I should also look 
> into why it busy-looped instead of failing after a few attempts (the easy 
> part I hope).

Changing to /INBOX/Drafts in the full path in that file did not fix it.  I 
deleted the whole source and am trying again.

For what it's worth, I imported the settings from Mail.app.  Maybe that's the 
problem?

Thanks for the help, and for fixing this bug :)

Will




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Re: [MlMt] Too many logins?

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 22:15, Will Styler wrote:

Tip to the list subscribers: When/if you get tired of a particular 
thread then don't forget to use “Message ▸ Mute” and then delete 
(or archive) the message. Any more messages in the thread are then going 
to end up in the same place.


Changing to /INBOX/Drafts in the full path in that file did not fix 
it.  I deleted the whole source and am trying again.


Ah yes, you would probably also need to clear up a couple of other 
things, but it's fine if you were able to start over.


For what it's worth, I imported the settings from Mail.app.  Maybe 
that's the problem?


It could very well be. Could you send me this file (privately):

~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/Accounts.plist


Thanks for the help, and for fixing this bug :)


Well, it's not fixed yet :-)

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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages

[MailMate]

Hi All,

Well I for one really appreciate this thread. I too got that message but 
haven't had time to research what to do about it, so thanks to all for 
the info and the education.


And Benny, if I get a vote, I say leave the default as it is, on by 
default. Otherwise I would still be oblivious to this whole PGP GPGTools 
issue.


Much appreciated

__*Richard Rettke*__
*Laus Deo*
*Non sibi sed patriae*

On 14 Nov 2013, at 14:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailinglist-at-freron.com 
|MailMate Freron Software/RER>Vendor>Software| wrote:



On 14 Nov 2013, at 18:07, Erik Mueller-Harder wrote:

I know this is not the issue, but just for the record, GPGTools is 
available [here](https://gpgtools.org). It's actually GPG Suite that 
should be installed (I recommend installing the parts named MacGPG and 
GPG Keychain).


So because Will has sent this as a secure message and because I 
somehow have a copy of MailMate that doesn’t include GPGTools, I 
get a message that seems to imply that Will’s message is somehow 
less verifiable than all the messages that I get that *don’t* have 
any errors?


This seems less than intuitive.


Will Styler answered this, but I'd like to add that if you have 
disabled “verification and decryption” in the Security preferences 
pane then the banner should not be shown. It's on by default though, 
but maybe I shouldn't do that…


(And is it “GPG” or “PGP”?  I’d thought it was “PGP” 
for “pretty good privacy”.)


It's two implementations of the [OpenPGP 
standard](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4880). GPG stands for GNU 
Privacy Guard. And yes, it's pretty confusing.


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Re: [MlMt] gpg2 error re OpenPGP messages

[Michael A. Alderete]

On Nov 14, 2013, at 12:29 PM, "Benny Kjær Nielsen"  
wrote:
> 
>> So because Will has sent this as a secure message and because I somehow have 
>> a copy of MailMate that doesn’t include GPGTools, I get a message that seems 
>> to imply that Will’s message is somehow less verifiable than all the 
>> messages that I get that don’t have any errors?
>> 
>> This seems less than intuitive.
>> 
> Will Styler answered this, but I'd like to add that if you have disabled 
> “verification and decryption” in the Security preferences pane then the 
> banner should not be shown. It's on by default though, but maybe I shouldn't 
> do that…


Can MailMate detect if GPG is available / installed? If so, then perhaps it 
should do that on first run. If it's installed, default for this pref is ON. If 
it's not installed, default is off.

If it's at all possible, app messages / banners should also take into 
consideration whether GPG is installed. If it's not, the banner should say 
that, rather than something about an email message it's impossible for MailMate 
to process because of the missing tool.

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Re: [MlMt] Suggested Keyboard Shortcuts

[Jeffrey Horn]

On 14 Nov 2013, at 12:18, Will Styler wrote:

> 1) When composing, add (and select for addition) the CC/BCC/Later box.  
> Ideally, such shortcuts would display the field if hidden, and select them 
> for entry if visible

I'd find keyboard shortcuts for this useful as well.

> 4) Filter by attribute.  Right now, if I use the filter key, it starts me off 
> filtering by "From" with the entry box selected, which is well and good, but 
> requires significant mousing to set criteria.  I'd love the ability 
> to set something like:
>
>   "/" = {
>   "f" = ( "FilterBy:", "From" );
>   "t" = ( "FilterBy:", "To" );
>   "s" = ( "FilterBy:", "Subject" );
>   "a" = ( "FilterBy:", "Any Header" );
>   "d" = ( "FilterBy:", "Date" );  "g" = ( "FilterBy:", 
> "Tags/Keywords" );
>   };

Another +1. I'm actually surprised this isn't exposed already. Would be very 
cool.


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