Re: getting mail to stop saying "Thread."

[Scott Ford]

Hi,
Can you provide a step by step for this.  I went to vo prpreferances, 
then verbosity, general, I have the main verbosity set to medium, then went 
over to details and chose the discoloser symbol.  The only option I see is low, 
med, default.
Can you set me right?  Thank you.
Scott t

On Sep 27, 2010, at 1:02 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I got it to work. go to the custom verbosity and find the disclosure triangle 
> and set it to status only.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Sep 26, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> 
>> Did you put something in the dictionary?
>> 
>> On 27/09/2010, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
>>> Hey folks. In mail, I have all my messages grouped by thread. On one of
>>> these machines, I was able to get vo to stop saying "Thread" every time it
>>> encounter one in mail. I somehow got it to just say "Collapsed" and
>>> "Expanded." However, I can't remember how I did it so I can duplicate that
>>> on the laptop. I already know it's a thread if it says collapsed. Just that
>>> word alone slows me down when scanning through huge lists of messages. If
>>> anyone remembers how to do this, I'd really appreciate it. I've looked in
>>> the custom verbosity dialog, but nothing there regarding threads. Thanks so
>>> much for any help you could provide.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
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Safari frusterations!

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7.  Unfortunately I keep
finding myself having to do this.  Part is my inability to completely grasp
voice over in a really efficient way.  However I feel to a larger part I
cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and
university assignments.  For example last night I was searching for
information on a pelit stove that I am working on.  I found a good and very
informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy.
Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by
clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was
displayed.  I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid.
This is only one event.  I very frequently find that this is occurring even
in google of all places.  Many times the heading hot key does not function
properly.  Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar
frustrations?  I find similar troubles with the need for a good word
processor and spreadsheet application.  I will not go into details right
now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more
stability and a solid tool for productivity?  I love the sleek design and
form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism that
many folks are embuing the machines with.  I have found the hardware just as
pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC.  I will stop my rant and I
really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my
intentions.  I just want a bit of a reality check.
Sincerely,
Scott

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Re: Pondering the switch to a Mac (blind but with residual vision)

[Scott Ford]

Hello David,
I have traveled the same road as you.  I still have some vision, 
however my vision is in themore advanced stages than you.  I must use a 
screen reader in order to effectively navigate my computer.  I am also an 
Adaptive Technology specialist.  This thread has been incredibly fascinating to 
read.  I purchased my Mac book pro nearly two years ago, even at that time I 
was a voice over user and Jaws user.  I found the switch from magnification to 
voice an incredibly hard switch.  The most frustrating part is the linear way 
that one must use a computer while working with a screen reader.  This slows 
productivity down so much.  On a totally different point I unfortunately find 
that I must still frequently complete work in windows.  The positive to this is 
that I can run bootcamp.  The down side is it is really annoying to switch back 
and forth.  I have fusion, however the quirky keyboard configuration and the 
Jaws ilm configuration is not very optimal.  I did find the post about the 
application for Mac color configuration very intriguing.  I must agree with you 
david, in your analysis, I feel that you are spot on.  The most exciting aspect 
is that the technology is only going to become better, the machines are going 
to get faster.  Finally whether you get a Mac today or a Mac tomorrow it is 
just another computer, unlike common lore Macs are no more magical than a PC.
Sincerely,
Scott to Oct 8, 2010, at 6:59 AM, David Goodwin wrote:

> Hi Ricardo and Nic,
> 
> Thank you both for your recent posts. I had been considering how best to 
> respond to some of the comments made elsewhere in this thread, but I think 
> you guys have just about covered things for me .
> 
> All that I am trying to do is determine the combination of tools that will 
> make using a desktop computer as easy and efficient as possible. At the 
> moment my residual vision is such that it should be regarded as one of the 
> 'tools' available to me (and will continue to be so for some time). And no, 
> this is not me in some kind of denial about the state of my vision (as some 
> others have hinted at). It is simply the way that things are for me.
> 
> On something as small as an iPhone my residual sight has little to offer, so 
> VoiceOver is my only real choice. However, things are less clear-cut on a 
> desktop. A screen reader on its own would not be the most efficient option 
> for me at this time. So, I need to decide whether having VoiceOver available 
> as an option, along with the more important (to me) screen magnification and 
> colour inversion, offers any advantages over my current set-up on a PC. 
> Having now seen the colour inversion feature in operation, the decision is 
> not as clear as I had anticipated. Looking at my screen right now, everything 
> is displayed in colours that are optimized for my sight problems. This would 
> not be the case if I were typing this on a Mac.
> 
> David
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Re: VMWare Fusion and JFW

[Scott Ford]

Hello,
I have a dongle and that works just fine.
Scott

On Oct 8, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> I can't see why you can't put your jaws dongle in a USB port when in windows 
> if you have fusion installed along with your operating system and jaws?
> On 8 Oct 2010, at 18:30, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> I would like to thank those who answered my question about JFW and Fusion.  
>> I will pass along your answers.  I suppose that my friend will know how to 
>> create a JFW key?
>> 
>> I don't know if he uses a dongle.
>> 
>> All of you, thank you!
>> 
>> Mike
>> On 7,Oct,2010, at 10:45 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm a fusion and jfw user and it works very well.  Didn't have to do 
>>> anything special other than register the normal way over the internet.  I 
>>> am an ILM user though not a dongle user so that may be different.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 I have VMWare Fusion but use Window-Eyes when running Windows.  I am 
 attempting to assist a friend who recently purchased a Mac, along with 
 VMWare Fusion.  Is it possible to install JFW in a VMWare Fusion 
 environment, or does the copy protection mechanism get in the way?
 
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Re: Pondering the switch to a Mac (blind but with residual vision)

[Scott Ford]

Hi David,
Yes, that is exactly what I had to do.  I was running a computer 
store/isp, I was finding that the high contrast and magnification was not 
cutting it anymore.  One day I fired up my jaws and never looked back.  I will 
admit that I use my remaining vision for anything that I can, however I 
certainly know my limitations.  As we say in the industry I just find a work 
around, what else can one do.  I am addicted to my technology.  On a different 
tact though I am looking at picking up an mac mini to turn it into a tivo 
replacement.  Has anyone done this.  I am excited to be able to use voice over 
and a large hdmi equipped flat panel high definition display.  
Sincerely,
Scott.

On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> That was really well put!
> 
> I'm just imagining how much of a transition that must have been from 
> magnification to screen reading.  I can relate to having to learn different 
> screen readers and that's trick enough.  I must admit I force myself in these 
> situations by just diving in and using the previous method as little as 
> possible.  I could see holding out until vision wasn't useful any more and 
> then just jumping in with both feet.  I guess I learn well under pressure.:)
> 
> On Oct 8, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Hello David,
>>  I have traveled the same road as you.  I still have some vision, 
>> however my vision is in themore advanced stages than you.  I must use a 
>> screen reader in order to effectively navigate my computer.  I am also an 
>> Adaptive Technology specialist.  This thread has been incredibly fascinating 
>> to read.  I purchased my Mac book pro nearly two years ago, even at that 
>> time I was a voice over user and Jaws user.  I found the switch from 
>> magnification to voice an incredibly hard switch.  The most frustrating part 
>> is the linear way that one must use a computer while working with a screen 
>> reader.  This slows productivity down so much.  On a totally different point 
>> I unfortunately find that I must still frequently complete work in windows.  
>> The positive to this is that I can run bootcamp.  The down side is it is 
>> really annoying to switch back and forth.  I have fusion, however the quirky 
>> keyboard configuration and the Jaws ilm configuration is not very optimal.  
>> I did find the post about the application for Mac color configuration very 
>> intriguing.  I must agree with you david, in your analysis, I feel that you 
>> are spot on.  The most exciting aspect is that the technology is only going 
>> to become better, the machines are going to get faster.  Finally whether you 
>> get a Mac today or a Mac tomorrow it is just another computer, unlike common 
>> lore Macs are no more magical than a PC.
>> Sincerely,
>> Scott to Oct 8, 2010, at 6:59 AM, David Goodwin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ricardo and Nic,
>>> 
>>> Thank you both for your recent posts. I had been considering how best to 
>>> respond to some of the comments made elsewhere in this thread, but I think 
>>> you guys have just about covered things for me .
>>> 
>>> All that I am trying to do is determine the combination of tools that will 
>>> make using a desktop computer as easy and efficient as possible. At the 
>>> moment my residual vision is such that it should be regarded as one of the 
>>> 'tools' available to me (and will continue to be so for some time). And no, 
>>> this is not me in some kind of denial about the state of my vision (as some 
>>> others have hinted at). It is simply the way that things are for me.
>>> 
>>> On something as small as an iPhone my residual sight has little to offer, 
>>> so VoiceOver is my only real choice. However, things are less clear-cut on 
>>> a desktop. A screen reader on its own would not be the most efficient 
>>> option for me at this time. So, I need to decide whether having VoiceOver 
>>> available as an option, along with the more important (to me) screen 
>>> magnification and colour inversion, offers any advantages over my current 
>>> set-up on a PC. Having now seen the colour inversion feature in operation, 
>>> the decision is not as clear as I had anticipated. Looking at my screen 
>>> right now, everything is displayed in colours that are optimized for my 
>>> sight problems. This would not be the case if I were typing this on a Mac.
>>> 
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Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

[Scott Ford]

Hi John,
I was just mentioning on the list the other day, that I frequently find 
myself needing to boot into windows on my Mac to complete work because the 
application does not exist or thedoes not work as well as on the PC.  I truly 
feel that the Mac software is making leaps and great strides with every new 
release, however looking at the two platforms critically I feel the Mac is just 
not quite there.  I am willing to bet that within the next year this will not 
be the case.  The switchers are growing by the day.  The other little option 
not found on the pc  is the fact that one can boot into windows or run vm ware 
fusion to access windows.  On their Mac.  I am  an Adaptive Technology 
specialist, every month I am getting more and more requests about the Mac.  The 
truth is that many people dislike the fact that one must use many more keys 
than on the pc, however we are seeing that Apple is addressing this with each 
subsequent release as well.  For example the quick nav and the magic track pad 
gestures for Voice over.  I guess what I am attempting to say is  that I feel 
the answer is not a cut and dried one.  There are positives and negatives on 
both sides of the issue.The bottom line is that looking at a pure 
productivity stand point the pc would have it hands down right now.  This will 
continue to change with Apples continued commitment to voice over and the 
adaptive technology that it continues to incorporate in the OS.  I hope that 
this helps.
Sincerely,
Scott

On Oct 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> Carolyn,
>  
> thank you, not a soap box, your comments are echoed by many, and I too do not 
> wish to continue to pay for JAWS where not needed.
>  
> but, firstly, I am not comparing apples and oranges, the single finger 
> navigation of a PC is not thanks to Freedom Scientific nor JAWS etc, its 
> Microsoft and Windows, all there, in the box on day one.
>  
> Apple have been in this game for just as long as MS and the sighted Mac user 
> can use their Mac in this way.
>  
> All I want is that level playing field.
>  
> Many are suggesting Quick Nav, sure this helps, but it is still beyond what 
> the sighted Mac keyboard user needs to do.
>  
> Again, please let's not turn this into a cost argument, you cannot say that 
> Voice Over is better or fine or acceptable just because it costs nothing, 
> sure there's an argument to be had there, but it's not this one, this 
> conversation I would ask to have nothing to do with cost.
>  
> its so very easy to turn this into a well Freedom Scientific and other 
> accessibility companies charge so very much, and they do, rightly or wrongly, 
> and therefore Apple is better. this is a conversation about one persons needs 
> on a purely which solution works better, and can I get the Apple approach to 
> work for me, with the benefit and wizdom of the folk on this list.
>  
> I have already learned something new about Quick Nav, and that is that you 
> can using down and left / right respecively initiate interact mode on / off. 
> this helps a lot.
>  
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>  
> Neil Barnfather
> Talks List Administrator
>  
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible 
> phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: 10 October 2010 19:30
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...
>  
> Hi Neil and others:
> I have an interesting prospective, having worked with a Mac for almost a 
> year, and only made the switch semi-successfully.  Further, I'm not a genius, 
> a tech expert, or even a wizzard.  I'm just a computer user who is fascinated 
> by what I can achieve with the technology and like to use it for my daily 
> functioning. 
> Having said these things, I've never been one to accomplish tasks with JAWS 
> using one finger.  That to me is a big stretch.  Unless, of course you are a 
> wizzard:).
> Secondly, you are comparing Apples with Oranges here.  Two totally different 
> operating systems, two totally different ways of doing things.  Microsoft has 
> been doing their thing including JAWS since the 80's or at least the early 
> 90's  If you're bent on being a finger wizzard, ok, great for you.   I also 
> find myself frustrated by some of the fingering requirements of the OS with 
> Voiceover.  It's far from perfect.  But, toexpect the same level of 
> comfort from a system that is a standard, out-of-the-box system is putting 
> the bar too high for a company that is finally trying to level the 
> playingfield for us.
> Perhaps I'm on the defensive because I've made a big investment in time and 
> energy to get as far as I have on the MAC.  But, I did so knowing this field 
> hasn't been thoroughly plowed.  I wanted to have an option other than paying 
> Freedom Scientific another 900

RE: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

[Scott Ford]

Hi Neil,

I am not sure where I got John from.  I do have to say this
for the Mac.  I use a Mac book pro for my day to day  work.  This includes
working with clients in both Mac osx and Windows.  I have found that the
power and performance in the Mac book pro to be nothing short  of great.  I
also have a very nice dell that is equal to the Mac in just about every way.
Where it really falls short is in the form factor.  My dell is just about
twice as thick and half again as heavy.  I can pop the Mac and it's power
supply in my book bag and it is much thinner than any book that I need to
carry.  This may be a minor thing to most, however I also carry my BN apex
around as well.  These devices really add up to a lot of weight quickly.
Just a bit more food for thought.

Sincerely,

Scott

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
TalkNav
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

 

Scott,

 

that's pretty much my beef, the issue for me comes down to productivity,
that alone, not price, not other, just productivity.

 

I'm still hopeful, and wish to become a switcher, not for peer pressure, not
for anything other than stability of the screen reader... having said this,
you never know, the folks at FS may one day decide to do the right thing and
completely re-write JAWS from the ground up, making it more stable.

 

Twitter @neilbarnfather

 

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator

 

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accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ford
Sent: 10 October 2010 21:35
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

 

Hi John,

I was just mentioning on the list the other day, that I
frequently find myself needing to boot into windows on my Mac to complete
work because the application does not exist or thedoes not work as well as
on the PC.  I truly feel that the Mac software is making leaps and great
strides with every new release, however looking at the two platforms
critically I feel the Mac is just not quite there.  I am willing to bet that
within the next year this will not be the case.  The switchers are growing
by the day.  The other little option not found on the pc  is the fact that
one can boot into windows or run vm ware fusion to access windows.  On their
Mac.  I am  an Adaptive Technology specialist, every month I am getting more
and more requests about the Mac.  The truth is that many people dislike the
fact that one must use many more keys than on the pc, however we are seeing
that Apple is addressing this with each subsequent release as well.  For
example the quick nav and the magic track pad gestures for Voice over.  I
guess what I am attempting to say is  that I feel the answer is not a cut
and dried one.  There are positives and negatives on both sides of the
issue.The bottom line is that looking at a pure productivity stand point
the pc would have it hands down right now.  This will continue to change
with Apples continued commitment to voice over and the adaptive technology
that it continues to incorporate in the OS.  I hope that this helps.

Sincerely,

Scott

 

On Oct 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

 

Carolyn,

 

thank you, not a soap box, your comments are echoed by many, and I too do
not wish to continue to pay for JAWS where not needed.

 

but, firstly, I am not comparing apples and oranges, the single finger
navigation of a PC is not thanks to Freedom Scientific nor JAWS etc, its
Microsoft and Windows, all there, in the box on day one.

 

Apple have been in this game for just as long as MS and the sighted Mac user
can use their Mac in this way.

 

All I want is that level playing field.

 

Many are suggesting Quick Nav, sure this helps, but it is still beyond what
the sighted Mac keyboard user needs to do.

 

Again, please let's not turn this into a cost argument, you cannot say that
Voice Over is better or fine or acceptable just because it costs nothing,
sure there's an argument to be had there, but it's not this one, this
conversation I would ask to have nothing to do with cost.

 

its so very easy to turn this into a well Freedom Scientific and other
accessibility companies charge so very much, and they do, rightly or
wrongly, and therefore Apple is better. this is a conversation about one
persons needs on a purely which solution works better, and can I get the
Apple approach to work for me, with the benefit and wizdom of the folk on
this list.

 

I have already learned something new about Quick Nav, and that is that you
can using down and left / right respecively initiate interact mode on / off.

RE: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

[Scott Ford]

Hi Scott,

In part you pointed out one of my issues, that is the
lagging need to use MS-Office.  I was also clear that I felt that this will
hopefully be resolved soon.  Furthermore I have the need to use Openbook for
scanning and reading documents.  Another area that I find that I must resort
to windows is while browsing the web.  Safari is just not up to the task in
all cases.  We had a thread the other day talking about this.  Just about
weekly we have someone telling about a web site that they cannot access with
safari.  I must access a site for bids with the government and safari will
not display properly with vo.  I love the mail app, however you may notice
that I am in windows right now.  That is because my professor is about to
send me a quiz that I must use MS-Office to access for now.  I have tried
like hell to make a total switch, however at this time it is just not
possible for me.  

Sincerely,

Scott

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

 

Sott I just can't agree with you about the level of productivity. Whenever
someone says this, I find their scope is very narrow. If you were to base
your productivity on one application or on specialized software, perhaps
that would be true. The only software I need at work now is Microsoft
Office. This is primarily because I do not have iWork and some compatibility
issues with WOrd documents still exists. However, for research, e-mail, and
managing my calendar are all done on the Mac. So, I am just having a hard
time understanding how you can consider the "PC" (i.e. WIndows) as being
more productive when so many examples of productive users exists. Can you
further define what you mean?

On Oct 10, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Scott Ford wrote:





Hi John,

I was just mentioning on the list the other day, that I
frequently find myself needing to boot into windows on my Mac to complete
work because the application does not exist or thedoes not work as well as
on the PC.  I truly feel that the Mac software is making leaps and great
strides with every new release, however looking at the two platforms
critically I feel the Mac is just not quite there.  I am willing to bet that
within the next year this will not be the case.  The switchers are growing
by the day.  The other little option not found on the pc  is the fact that
one can boot into windows or run vm ware fusion to access windows.  On their
Mac.  I am  an Adaptive Technology specialist, every month I am getting more
and more requests about the Mac.  The truth is that many people dislike the
fact that one must use many more keys than on the pc, however we are seeing
that Apple is addressing this with each subsequent release as well.  For
example the quick nav and the magic track pad gestures for Voice over.  I
guess what I am attempting to say is  that I feel the answer is not a cut
and dried one.  There are positives and negatives on both sides of the
issue.The bottom line is that looking at a pure productivity stand point
the pc would have it hands down right now.  This will continue to change
with Apples continued commitment to voice over and the adaptive technology
that it continues to incorporate in the OS.  I hope that this helps.

Sincerely,

Scott

 

On Oct 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:





Carolyn,

 

thank you, not a soap box, your comments are echoed by many, and I too do
not wish to continue to pay for JAWS where not needed.

 

but, firstly, I am not comparing apples and oranges, the single finger
navigation of a PC is not thanks to Freedom Scientific nor JAWS etc, its
Microsoft and Windows, all there, in the box on day one.

 

Apple have been in this game for just as long as MS and the sighted Mac user
can use their Mac in this way.

 

All I want is that level playing field.

 

Many are suggesting Quick Nav, sure this helps, but it is still beyond what
the sighted Mac keyboard user needs to do.

 

Again, please let's not turn this into a cost argument, you cannot say that
Voice Over is better or fine or acceptable just because it costs nothing,
sure there's an argument to be had there, but it's not this one, this
conversation I would ask to have nothing to do with cost.

 

its so very easy to turn this into a well Freedom Scientific and other
accessibility companies charge so very much, and they do, rightly or
wrongly, and therefore Apple is better. this is a conversation about one
persons needs on a purely which solution works better, and can I get the
Apple approach to work for me, with the benefit and wizdom of the folk on
this list.

 

I have already learned something new about Quick Nav, and that is that you
can using down and left / right respecively initiate interact mode on / off.

Re: VMWare Fusion and JFW

[Scott Ford]

The ILM will work great as long as you do not make any memory or what the ILM 
construes as a hardware change, memory, hard drive, or vidio.  This is why I 
use my dongle.  
Later,
Scott 

On Oct 9, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> No problems of that here, I can install any Fusion I like and jaws does 
> nothing.  I also have a dongle too but I prefer the ILM so as my ports are 
> not taken up.
> 
> On 9 Oct 2010, at 18:29, Pierre Heim wrote:
> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I'm also using a dongle version of Jaws (V10/Win XP), at home with Fusion 
>> and at work the VMWare player on Linux. With the ILM version I had the 
>> problem that every time I have changed the settings of the VM or installed a 
>> new version of VMWare fusion or the player Jaws wanted a new registration. 
>> This was a great pain... No problems now with the dongle...
>> 
>> Have a nice WE,
>> Pierre
>> 
>> Am 09.10.2010 um 01:51 schrieb Scott Ford:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have a dongle and that works just fine.
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I can't see why you can't put your jaws dongle in a USB port when in 
>>>> windows if you have fusion installed along with your operating system and 
>>>> jaws?
>>>> On 8 Oct 2010, at 18:30, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to thank those who answered my question about JFW and 
>>>>> Fusion.  I will pass along your answers.  I suppose that my friend will 
>>>>> know how to create a JFW key?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know if he uses a dongle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All of you, thank you!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> On 7,Oct,2010, at 10:45 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm a fusion and jfw user and it works very well.  Didn't have to do 
>>>>>> anything special other than register the normal way over the internet.  
>>>>>> I am an ILM user though not a dongle user so that may be different.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have VMWare Fusion but use Window-Eyes when running Windows.  I am 
>>>>>>> attempting to assist a friend who recently purchased a Mac, along with 
>>>>>>> VMWare Fusion.  Is it possible to install JFW in a VMWare Fusion 
>>>>>>> environment, or does the copy protection mechanism get in the way?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
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Mail has changed on me!

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
I really love the mail app. on the Mac.  When I went in this morning I 
cannot seem to access my sub folders in my Gmail account.  I can only see the 
inbox, drafts, sent, and trash.  Can anyone tell me what may have happened.  I 
usually have my all mail, spam, and around 60 sub folders.  I can still send 
messages to the folders, however I cannot seem to access them to view the 
messages.  Help!!  Thank you so much in advanced.
Sincerely,
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Re: Mail has changed on me!

[Scott Ford]

You guys rock.  I had to do both suggestions.  Thank you.
Scott

On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Also check that quick nav is not on.
> On 12 Oct 2010, at 17:19, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> 
>> try going to your Gmail mailbox, and expanding it. I believe the
>> VO-Command is control-opt-.
>> 
>> There are a couple other ways:
>> 1. Left arrow when gmail is highlighted.
>> 2. Interact with Gmail and then activate control-opt- the
>> colapassed toggle.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/10/2010, Scott Ford  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I really love the mail app. on the Mac.  When I went in this morning I
>>> cannot seem to access my sub folders in my Gmail account.  I can only see
>>> the inbox, drafts, sent, and trash.  Can anyone tell me what may have
>>> happened.  I usually have my all mail, spam, and around 60 sub folders.  I
>>> can still send messages to the folders, however I cannot seem to access them
>>> to view the messages.  Help!!  Thank you so much in advanced.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Scott
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Re: removing bootcamp partitions

[Scott Ford]

Hello,
It is extreemly simple to do.  Just start the bootcamp wizard and one 
of the first things that it askes is do you want to remove the bootcamp 
partition.  What is really scarry is how fast it does it.  
Later,
Scott

On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote:

>  
>  
> Is it possible to delete a bootcamp partition? I have a macbook pro with snow 
> lepard on it. I used bootcamp to dual boot windows xp. I think I want to kill 
> that partition and just use the mac osx operating system. How can I do this? 
> Is it even possible?
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growler helper app?

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
I have downloaded the adium last night and installed it easly.  Now I 
am wondering why and what does the growler helper app do and why?  Where can I 
download it from?  Thank you.
Scott
On Oct 13, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

> For mobile content, you'll be fine with AAC at 128 kbps. This sounds much 
> better than MP3 at higher frequencies and will fit nicely on a 32 GB iPhone 
> or iPod. 
> 
> If you're listening at home or with headphones on a lazy afternoon, AAC at 
> 256 kbps will sound great, even for music with lots of dynamics and detail. 
> 
> If you want lossless, Apple has its own lossless format. If you're an 
> audiophile and need absolute transparency with a reduced filesize, this is 
> the way to go.
> 
> I find I have a mix of both  lossy and lossless formats in my library. I 
> reserve my lossless compression for jazz, classical and a few world music 
> CDs. Everything else is lossy AAC at 256 kbps. If I need to sync my iPhone, I 
> convert everything to AAC at 128 kbps.
> 
> As an audio engineer, I have yet to find a significant deal breaker in terms 
> of encoding method with AAC. Mp3s are a little too messy for my liking, but 
> 192 kbps and up will do in a pinch.
> 
> Cheers,
> Kevin
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RE: 64 bit or 32 bit Mac bootstrapped with W7

[Scott Ford]

If that is the case how do you get it to install in the 64bit version?
Scott


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Subject: Re: 64 bit or 32 bit Mac bootstrapped with W7

While it is true that recent Macs and osx are 64 bit capable, snow leopard
on default is 32 bit. Do not know why Apple decided to put it 32 bit while
saying everywhere that it is 64bit. 

On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Garry Turkington wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> And any 64-bit-capable CPU you'll find on a Mac or PC these days can
> run either the 32-bit or 64-bit versions of the OS.
> 
> Garry
> 
> On 10/23/10, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> The Mac is 64Bit.
>> On Oct 23, 2010, at 5:37 PM, LaMcAs wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list
>>> 
>>> This is more for a friend but also for clarification.
>>> 
>>> She has a Mac Book with 8gb RAM and has W7 Boot Strapped on it.
>>> 
>>> So what bit is the Apple Motherboard 32 bit or 64 bit?
>>> 
>>> I would hope that as it has 8gb Ram it would be 64 bit.
>>> 
>>> She seems to think she is running W7 H P 32 bit - surely if this is a
>>> 64-bit motherboard it wont allow her to run W7 32-bit?
>>> 
>>> I'm not clued up on the Mac at all so asking for clarification on all
>>> this, does what I'm suggesting make sense?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for your input
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Larry & Elliot GD
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RE: Microsoft Office 2011 period

[Scott Ford]

Hello,
May I as where you live?  
Scott


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period

Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
new solution.:)

This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where they
have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new technologies.
She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, and
conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
for reading.


Carolyn Haas
chaas0...@gmail.com



On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:

> Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get very
far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another msa
or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at all.
So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not matter
that much anymore.  Heather 
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Magic jack configurations

[Scott Ford]

Hello yall,
I have just gotten a Mac mini, I will be using it as my tivo 
replacement, Magic jackhost, and eye-tv host/ media hub.  So with all this in 
mind, I do not want my Magic Jack poping up in the middle of a program.  I 
would like it to sit silently in the background and not display it's self when 
I pick up the handset or receive a phone call.  I would also like it to start 
automaticlly when it's plugged in or the computer is rebooted.  Thanks in 
advanced.
Scott

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RE: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

[Scott Ford]

Hi Donna,
I would suggest that you google the podcast for the HT guys.  They
really have some really good ideas and they include using a Mac to keep
track of your video collection.  I infact just purchased a Mac mini for that
purpose.  I have coupled it with a eye tv.  Good luck.
Scott


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Subject: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

Hi all,

tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a computer-based
entertainment system.  I of course said I want our media computer to be a
Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with our DVD collection?  Can this
be imported into iTunes?I'm very curious to know what others have done.
Thanks,
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RE: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
I am using an eye tv and the primary parts of the application are
more than 100 times more accessible than a TiVo.  The program guide and the
preferences are not accessible, however all of the controls for manipulating
the TV is.  I can use the Bluetooth keyboard as my remote and it is really
awesome.  Backing up is a touch of the left arrow key.  I have not saved any
programs yet so I cannot comment yet.  So far it is pretty cool. I plan on
having two displays for those who can see so that they can multi task.  I am
also looking at home automation equipment to connect to the mini as well.
The sky is the limit with this little bugger.
Later,
Scott


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Subject: Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under
windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub is
that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There seems to be
only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and it's absolutely
useless with voiceover, although from all accounts it's a cool programme!
Apart from that, the mac is a good option.

Vaughn.
On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a
computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our media
computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with our DVD
collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very curious to know
what others have done.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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sharing and permissions in SN?

[Scott Ford]

Hello Everyone,
I am trying to set up sharing and permissions on my mac mini.  I
have devided a 1TB usb drive into four partitions.  I am using partition
four for the use of my family members who use both mac's and pc's.  I have
created accounts for each of them and created folders for each as well.
Furthermore I have created a private folder for them to store more sencitive
documents in.  I would like to make the private folder accessable so that
they must use their username and password to access it.  I am the
administrator and when I try to change the permissions under filetet info,
sharing and permissions.  All that I see is that I have read write
permission.  I have researched this on the net and I read that there should
be quite a few drop down boxes that I can select.  Does anyone know what I
am doing wrong?  Thank you in advanced.
Scott

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creating new users on the mac

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
I have created new users on my mini and when I log into them I
cannot get voice over to speak.  I can see that a dialog box pops up, then
if I his escape it goes away then the voiceover line appears.  I do not get
sound, however I can use the keyboard to log back out of the user.  When the
login window popes up voiceover restarts.  Thank you for any help.
Scott

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RE: creating new users on the mac

[Scott Ford]

Colin,
Thank you for your great suggestions, I had tried them.  I had my
daughter look and we discovered that the sound output source chosen was the
usb phone.  We changed it to digital output and whammy it works.
Sincerely,
Scott


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin M
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Subject: Re: creating new users on the mac

Hi Scott!
Ok I do not know what you have tried to do when you have logged into the
other accounts, but here is a couple of suggestions [ sorry if you already
tried them
]
When in one of the accounts and vo is not speaking try command+f5 first and
if you think vo is already switched on you can then try fn+f10 [ if you have
a keyboard with a fn key]
And you've got it set to use f1 f2 f3 and the rest set to normal use!
fn+f10 mutes and unmutes vo!
Also if this works you'll have to turn on vo on all the accounts then from
then on you should have no problems!
Just one more thing each account can set vo differently so one could have
Alex as the main voice and another could have Victoria and so on and at
different speeds and so on!
hth Colin
On 19 Nov 2010, at 17:38, Scott Ford wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>   I have created new users on my mini and when I log into them I
> cannot get voice over to speak.  I can see that a dialog box pops up, then
> if I his escape it goes away then the voiceover line appears.  I do not
get
> sound, however I can use the keyboard to log back out of the user.  When
the
> login window popes up voiceover restarts.  Thank you for any help.
> Scott
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RE: voiceover randomly freezing

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,

This may not be an answer, however I found it to be the
problem for me.  Since I did the update on my mini, the mac had chose to
make my magic Jack the primary output device.  I had to get my daughter to
switch it to the digital out which is what I use.  Then all the other users
were the same way.  Last night I just unplugged the jack and restarted and
re plugged the jack in and now everything is happy again.  I have no clue
why this switched, I do know that it has been a frustrating weekend though.


Later,

Scott11/22/2010

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover randomly freezing

 

Hi Anne,

 

I've never been able to get your method to work. Some people said hitting
Command-F5 once, then Command-Tab, then Command-F5 five times within thirty
seconds works, too.

 

However, since none of this works for me, I've found it safer in my case to
hit Command-Space for Spotlight, type Terminal, hit enter and type killall
-9 VoiceOver to ensure VoiceOver restarts.

 

That's another way to do it, and it works if all else does not. I have
experienced that sometimes, I am also unable to use keyboard shortcuts but
that has only happened once.

 

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On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:





Hello Eric,

This is a very common problem at the moment. You just press Cmd-F5 four
times and VoiceOver starts speaking again.

There is no crash log because VoiceOver isn't crashing, it's just going
silent.

Cheers,

Anne


On 22 Nov 2010, at 12:16, Eric Oyen wrote:




ok, ever since I tried, and failed to update to 10.6.5, my machine has been
displaying some weird problems.

the top most one is that voiceover will freeze at random in the middle of
reading a web page, writing an e-mail, or something else requiring its
output.

I have done the repair permissions bit and culled unused programs and their
various spawnage. so what gives? VO will not respond to its CMD+F5 command
to quit/restart. I actually have to get someone in here and tell me the
process ID of the app so I can kill it directly.

 

the malfunction doesn't seem to be making it into the logs either. I am
really at my whits end here.

 

HELP!

 

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RE: confirming apple tv has vo support

[Scott Ford]

Hi Mark, 
You are describing the Eye tv.  I am doing just that with a mac
mini.  Not only that I access the net and itunes, and every other kind of
media you could ever want.
Scott


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Subject: Re: confirming apple tv has vo support

I think I could live with that level of functionality; I'm not one for
looking at guides and programming scheduling and planning out my TV
watching.  I really just want something that will hook up to my Mac and play
sound/video through the Mac, that I can switch channels with (a remote would
be nice) and basically acts like a TV.  Recording, even real-time recording,
would be a nice plus, in case I"m too sleepy to stay up and watch a show,
but *shrug*


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RE: confirming apple tv has vo support

[Scott Ford]

I do not believe that that is true.  There is a free service that you can
gain access to by just going to  www.titantv.com.  Then you turn the service
on on the eye tv and it checks to see if you have updated your schedule
every hour if you would like.  So you can be at the office and set your
schedule up remotely.
Scott


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Subject: Re: confirming apple tv has vo support

I am also continuing to search for a Mac-based TV tuner whose program
guide is accessible.  The El Gato Eye TV, spelled E Y E works great as
far as it goes.  You can easily switch channels, play programs that
have already been recorded, and start a recording live at any time
simply by pressing Command R.  But you cannot schedule recordings in
advance.  This is indeed highly highly disappointing.

On 11/22/10, Mark BurningHawk Baxter  wrote:
> wow; thanks for telling me that.  My search for a Mac-based TV tuner
> continues.
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RE: confirming apple tv has vo support

[Scott Ford]

Hi Mark,
I have the HD version, and it uses a s-video, composit, and High-def
analog imputs, right and left audio in.  There is one called the hybred and
it has a tuner and also composit along with right and left, maybe s-video I
am not positive.  The both plug in via usb.  The hybrid uses a software
decoder and the HD has a hardware decoder.  
Scott

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Subject: Re: confirming apple tv has vo support

HMMM. ITV, then?  Thanks for this pointer.  I can't seem to find pricing and
descriptions of it on the Apple site though.  That's an Express card that
plugs into the Mac and into which you plug your cable connector, right?


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RE: confirming apple tv has vo support

[Scott Ford]

I believe that that is what can connect to the hybrid model, however I would
certainly verifiy that before you purchase one.
Scott

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I don't have HD, I have just plain old 300-ohm coax cable feed.  It's
digital, because everything is now, but it's pretty traditional basic cable.
I don't know what S-video is.


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RE: partitioning a hard drive

[Scott Ford]

Hi Sarah,
I have a 1TB that I split into four partitions.  I created two osx
on the first two partitions and then created two fat32 partitions on the
last two.  I did all of this on the Mac mini.  Now I am using this for a
network storage.
Later,
Scott

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:05 PM
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Subject: partitioning a hard drive

Hello all. I'm going to be getting a 2 tb hard drive in a few weeks, or in a
week depending on when shipping cooperates lol!

question: is there a way I can partition 1 tb for something and have it be
an ntfs drive and another 11 tb partition for something and also have it be
an ntfs drive? I want to partition on the mac if I can but if I have to go
to the nameless platform I'll do it.

Take care.

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Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...

[Scott Ford]

Hi John,I was just mentioning on the list the other day, that I frequently find myself needing to bootinto windows on my Mac to complete work because the application does not exist or thedoes not work as well as on the PC.  I truly feel that the Mac software is making leaps and great strides with every new release, however looking at the two platforms critically I feel the Mac is just not quite there.  I am willing to bet that within the next year this will not be the case.  The switchers are growing by the day.  The other little option not found on the pc  is the fact that one can boot into windows or run vm ware fusion to access windows.  On their Mac.  I am  an Adaptive Technology specialist, every month I am getting more and more requests about the Mac.  The truth is that many people dislike the fact that one must use many more keys than on the pc, however we are seeing that Apple is addressing this with each subsequent release as well.  For example the quick nav and the magic track pad gestures for Voice over.  I guess what I am attempting to say is  that I feel the answer is not a cut and dried one.  There are positives and negatives on both sides of the issue.    The bottom line is that looking at a pure productivity stand point the pc would have it hands down right now.  This will continue to change with Apples continued commitment to voice over and the adaptive technology that it continues to incorporate in the OS.  I hope that this helps.Sincerely,ScottOn Oct 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:Carolyn, thank you, not a soap box, your comments are echoed by many, and I too do not wish to continue to pay for JAWS where not needed. but, firstly, I am not comparing apples and oranges, the single finger navigation of a PC is not thanks to Freedom Scientific nor JAWS etc, its Microsoft and Windows, all there, in the box on day one. Apple have been in this game for just as long as MS and the sighted Mac user can use their Mac in this way. All I want is that level playing field. Many are suggesting Quick Nav, sure this helps, but it is still beyond what the sighted Mac keyboard user needs to do. Again, please let's not turn this into a cost argument, you cannot say that Voice Over is better or fine or acceptable just because it costs nothing, sure there's an argument to be had there, but it's not this one, this conversation I would ask to have nothing to do with cost. its so very easy to turn this into a well Freedom Scientific and other accessibility companies charge so very much, and they do, rightly or wrongly, and therefore Apple is better. this is a conversation about one persons needs on a purely which solution works better, and can I get the Apple approach to work for me, with the benefit and wizdom of the folk on this list. I have already learned something new about Quick Nav, and that is that you can using down and left / right respecively initiate interact mode on / off. this helps a lot. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil BarnfatherTalks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of CarolynSent: 10 October 2010 19:30To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be... Hi Neil and others:I have an interesting prospective, having worked with a Mac for almost a year, and only made the switch semi-successfully.  Further, I'm not a genius, a tech expert, or even a wizzard.  I'm just a computer user who is fascinated by what I can achieve with the technology and like to use it for my daily functioning. Having said these things, I've never been one to accomplish tasks with JAWS using one finger.  That to me is a big stretch.  Unless, of course you are a wizzard:).Secondly, you are comparing Apples with Oranges here.  Two totally different operating systems, two totally different ways of doing things.  Microsoft has been doing their thing including JAWS since the 80's or at least the early 90's  If you're bent on being a finger wizzard, ok, great for you.   I also find myself frustrated by some of the fingering requirements of the OS with Voiceover.  It's far from perfect.  But, to    expect the same level of comfort from a system that is a standard, out-of-the-box system is putting the bar too high for a company that is finally trying to level the playingfield for us.Perhaps I'm on the defensive because I've made a big investment in time and energy to get as far as I have on the MAC.  But, I did so knowing this field hasn't been thoroughly plowed.  I wanted to have an option other than paying Freedom Scientific another 900 to get JAWS up-to-date.  Which meant no new computer for at least a couple more years.  So, I requested a Mac as a Christmas present, and I'm doing my best to make this an option for me and others who, like me, don't think we should have

Using a standard mac keyboard on my mac book pro

[Scott Ford]

Hello Everyone,
I purchased a full size keyboard for my macbook pro.  I went into  
keyboard learn mode, however their are a lot of keys that are not  
spoken.  Would anyone know where I could find information about what  
these keys are used for?  I also need to know where and if the fn key  
is on the full keyboard?  If it is not could it be added to one of the  
keys that are not spoken?  Thanks in advanced.
Scott

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Re: Using a standard mac keyboard on my mac book pro

[Scott Ford]

Ryan,
The Keyboard is the new flat one that feels like metal.  The one that  
comes witha new mac computer.  The keyboard has a number pad and  
something like sixteen f keys and twelve keys where the six pack  
usually is located.  This is where the fn key is exactly where i was  
told in a previous message.  Thank you for any help.
Scott

On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> What brand is your keyboard?
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>  I purchased a full size keyboard for my macbook pro.  I went into
>> keyboard learn mode, however their are a lot of keys that are not
>> spoken.  Would anyone know where I could find information about what
>> these keys are used for?  I also need to know where and if the fn key
>> is on the full keyboard?  If it is not could it be added to one of  
>> the
>> keys that are not spoken?  Thanks in advanced.
>> Scott
>>
>>>
>
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Removing office 2008

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
I need to remove office 2008 From my Mac.  How do I do this and  
restore the system to the oem state so that I can read things.  I  
cannot read anything including pdf's or files.  The system tells me  
the file name or I can go full screen.  This sucks.  I can open and  
read the documents with the text editor though.   Thank you for any  
assistance.
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Re: New I phone owners, was, Re: differences between I pad and I pod touch?

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
Can anyone tell me if the I products can do Imap mail?
Thank you 
Scott

On Dec 17, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote:

> Lol, we just got I phones today!  Mark's n 95 is in the process of dying and 
> that's why we were thinking of upgrading this soon, anyway, but if we could 
> hold out until our upgrade date in Ap[ril, we were going to try that instead 
> to save some money.Anyway, we called our provider just on a whim to see 
> what they could/would offer if we threatened to leave and they offered 
> something we couldn't refuse, so we bit.
> 
> Is there anything we need to know when we get these things.  We have to call 
> customer service so they can activate the sim cards in thephones, but other 
> then that, I think we need to hook them up to the pc to I tunes to activate 
> voiceover, etc, right?  Anything else, like calibrating the touch screen, etc?
> 
> On 16/12/2010 7:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Well Cait, when it comes down to sharing, I'd go for the iPod because as 
>> much as I love my wife, I sure as hell won't share my toys with her. :) Yep, 
>> when I got the iPhone, she had to have one as well or I would never have 
>> heard the end of it. Now I said I was considering an iPad and so, she is 
>> considering one as well. Maybe the real problem is not sharing, but finding 
>> the time to share. :)
>> Good luck with whatever device you choose.
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Scott.  Mark is trying to decide between the two, but he's totally 
>>> new to the world of Mac and also to touch screen environments.  I thought 
>>> the pad would just be easier and might be more functional then the touch... 
>>>  But where we live, we can get two of the touches for one of the pads, 
>>> which has some appeal as we wouldn't have to share.
>>> 
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16/12/2010 2:55 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Caitlyn,
 
 Some argue the iPad is a larger iPod; however, that is incorrect. There 
 are of course many similarities, but the interface is different. THe 
 additional screen size does allow for a different navigation experience 
 for both blind and sighted individuals. SOme would say the web browsing is 
 much easier and provides a greater idea of the page layout. I am sure 
 those who have both devices will comment more extensively, but I am giving 
 the iPad some serious consideration for my family. I can see using the 
 iPad to serve a variety of needs and having a central or couple of central 
 machines for syncing and purposes that are not suited to the iPad. I 
 already have an iPhone and find this to be incredibly useful; however, I 
 feel the iPad does meet a need and certainly I can see it taking the place 
 of a notebook while traveling when a full-blown machine is not required.
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 
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> Hi,
> 
> My husband wants me to ask what the differences are between the I pad and 
> the I pod touch.
> 
> As far as I can see, the only difference is the size.  Is this so, and if 
> not, what are the others?
> 
> Thanks,
> Caitlyn
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Re: New I phone owners, was, Re: differences between I pad and I pod touch?

[Scott Ford]

I actually ment the iphone/ipod touch/ipad.
Thank you.
Scott

On Dec 18, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Scott!
> Yes!
> I'm running Imap on my Imac!
> Colin
> On 18 Dec 2010, at 13:43, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>>  Can anyone tell me if the I products can do Imap mail?
>> Thank you 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote:
>> 
>>> Lol, we just got I phones today!  Mark's n 95 is in the process of dying 
>>> and that's why we were thinking of upgrading this soon, anyway, but if we 
>>> could hold out until our upgrade date in Ap[ril, we were going to try that 
>>> instead to save some money.Anyway, we called our provider just on a 
>>> whim to see what they could/would offer if we threatened to leave and they 
>>> offered something we couldn't refuse, so we bit.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything we need to know when we get these things.  We have to 
>>> call customer service so they can activate the sim cards in thephones, but 
>>> other then that, I think we need to hook them up to the pc to I tunes to 
>>> activate voiceover, etc, right?  Anything else, like calibrating the touch 
>>> screen, etc?
>>> 
>>> On 16/12/2010 7:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> Well Cait, when it comes down to sharing, I'd go for the iPod because as 
>>>> much as I love my wife, I sure as hell won't share my toys with her. :) 
>>>> Yep, when I got the iPhone, she had to have one as well or I would never 
>>>> have heard the end of it. Now I said I was considering an iPad and so, she 
>>>> is considering one as well. Maybe the real problem is not sharing, but 
>>>> finding the time to share. :)
>>>> Good luck with whatever device you choose.
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Scott.  Mark is trying to decide between the two, but he's 
>>>>> totally new to the world of Mac and also to touch screen environments.  I 
>>>>> thought the pad would just be easier and might be more functional then 
>>>>> the touch...  But where we live, we can get two of the touches for one of 
>>>>> the pads, which has some appeal as we wouldn't have to share.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cait
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/12/2010 2:55 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>> Caitlyn,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some argue the iPad is a larger iPod; however, that is incorrect. There 
>>>>>> are of course many similarities, but the interface is different. THe 
>>>>>> additional screen size does allow for a different navigation experience 
>>>>>> for both blind and sighted individuals. SOme would say the web browsing 
>>>>>> is much easier and provides a greater idea of the page layout. I am sure 
>>>>>> those who have both devices will comment more extensively, but I am 
>>>>>> giving the iPad some serious consideration for my family. I can see 
>>>>>> using the iPad to serve a variety of needs and having a central or 
>>>>>> couple of central machines for syncing and purposes that are not suited 
>>>>>> to the iPad. I already have an iPhone and find this to be incredibly 
>>>>>> useful; however, I feel the iPad does meet a need and certainly I can 
>>>>>> see it taking the place of a notebook while traveling when a full-blown 
>>>>>> machine is not required.
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My husband wants me to ask what the differences are between the I pad 
>>>>>>> and the I pod touch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as I can see, the only difference is the size.  Is this so, and 
>>>>>>> if not, what are the others?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Caitlyn
>>>>>>> 
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Re: New I phone owners, was, Re: differences between I pad and I pod touch?

[Scott Ford]

Excelent thank you.  I went and got my wife and daughter a iphone 4 for 
Christmas.  I will be getting one from the VA at the end of January.  If there 
are any veterans you should make sure that you are receiving the 15% off on the 
primary service plan, along with 15% off on all data charges.  This saved quite 
a bit of money.
Sincerely,
Scott

On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Jane wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I have all bu one email account set to iMap. I love it, because I can check 
> on any machine, make changes, and they show up on the others.
> 
> Just so you know Mail on the iDevices seems to handle Gmail, Yahoo, AOL with 
> no additional tweaking.  You can set up others like ComCast or Earthlink or 
> whatever under the 'Other' setting.  I simply have to switch ComCast to iMap 
> later.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>>  Can anyone tell me if the I products can do Imap mail?
>> Thank you 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote:
>> 
>>> Lol, we just got I phones today!  Mark's n 95 is in the process of dying 
>>> and that's why we were thinking of upgrading this soon, anyway, but if we 
>>> could hold out until our upgrade date in Ap[ril, we were going to try that 
>>> instead to save some money.Anyway, we called our provider just on a 
>>> whim to see what they could/would offer if we threatened to leave and they 
>>> offered something we couldn't refuse, so we bit.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything we need to know when we get these things.  We have to 
>>> call customer service so they can activate the sim cards in thephones, but 
>>> other then that, I think we need to hook them up to the pc to I tunes to 
>>> activate voiceover, etc, right?  Anything else, like calibrating the touch 
>>> screen, etc?
>>> 
>>> On 16/12/2010 7:00 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> Well Cait, when it comes down to sharing, I'd go for the iPod because as 
>>>> much as I love my wife, I sure as hell won't share my toys with her. :) 
>>>> Yep, when I got the iPhone, she had to have one as well or I would never 
>>>> have heard the end of it. Now I said I was considering an iPad and so, she 
>>>> is considering one as well. Maybe the real problem is not sharing, but 
>>>> finding the time to share. :)
>>>> Good luck with whatever device you choose.
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Scott.  Mark is trying to decide between the two, but he's 
>>>>> totally new to the world of Mac and also to touch screen environments.  I 
>>>>> thought the pad would just be easier and might be more functional then 
>>>>> the touch...  But where we live, we can get two of the touches for one of 
>>>>> the pads, which has some appeal as we wouldn't have to share.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cait
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16/12/2010 2:55 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>> Caitlyn,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some argue the iPad is a larger iPod; however, that is incorrect. There 
>>>>>> are of course many similarities, but the interface is different. THe 
>>>>>> additional screen size does allow for a different navigation experience 
>>>>>> for both blind and sighted individuals. SOme would say the web browsing 
>>>>>> is much easier and provides a greater idea of the page layout. I am sure 
>>>>>> those who have both devices will comment more extensively, but I am 
>>>>>> giving the iPad some serious consideration for my family. I can see 
>>>>>> using the iPad to serve a variety of needs and having a central or 
>>>>>> couple of central machines for syncing and purposes that are not suited 
>>>>>> to the iPad. I already have an iPhone and find this to be incredibly 
>>>>>> useful; however, I feel the iPad does meet a need and certainly I can 
>>>>>> see it taking the place of a notebook while traveling when a full-blown 
>>>>>> machine is not required.
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Caitlyn and

Re: Using a Macbook/MacBook Pro as Primary Computer?

[Scott Ford]

Hi Brianna,
Great questions!  I use my MBP exclusively.  On the 26th I will have 
used it for two years.  About a month ago my power supply quit working.   This 
was caused by this little plastic clip that is on the computer charging side of 
the cord.  While in my computer bag the plastic part cut into the cord then 
breaking the insulation, finally causing a short and  the power supply.  I had 
heat shrunk the cable  before the supply quit working, however it does not 
appear to have helped.  In any case I brought the power supply and MBP in to 
make sure that the battery was not the problem.  The tech ran their diagnostics 
on the system.  In the 18 months I charged the system around 300 times and the 
the batter checked out fine.  Additionally the tech told me that my battery is 
expected to be charged and discharged 5000 times.  Finally he told me that I 
could glean this information some where in the system and their diagnostics is 
just faster and provides additional information.  I have cut the plastic part 
off of my new power supply.  An interesting note also is that the old power 
supply had an end that came straight out of the computer and was white plastic 
just like the old Macbooks.  My new power supply has an end on it that is round 
with a brushed aluminum and clips on in a 90 degree angle   I really like my 
MBP, however I am finding that the hardware is no different than pc hardware.  
This morning I discovered that the left hinge is failing and the display is 
rubbing on the body.  This is the second time that something like this has 
occurred.  I recommend that you purchase the applecare if you have not already 
done so.  merry Christmas.
Sincerely,
Scott 
On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Brianna Snyder wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> I just got my MacBook Pro about a month and a half ago. Now that I've started 
> figuring more and more things out, I find myself using the Mac way more than 
> my old Windows desktop. I was just wondering if anyone used their 
> MacBook/MacBook Pro as their main computer? 
> I'd love to, as I love the OS so much more than windows. The only thing 
> stopping me is I don't know how much it hurts the battery to use it every day 
> until it tells me I'm running on reserved battery power, when I charge it, 
> sometimes while still using it. 
> I was just wondering if this could hurt my battery in any way, and under this 
> kind of usage, how long the battery would last until I need to replace it. 
> 
> Sorry for all the questions, I've just been really wondering this for a 
> while. 
> 
> Thanks for all your help, 
> Brianna
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Re: Finding out Battery status

[Scott Ford]

I would like to learn the step by step proceedure as well.  Please post it, 
because it would be a great recource to have in the archives.
Sincerely,
Scott
On Dec 23, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Could somebody talk me through doing this off list?  I hate to clog the list 
> but have never done this and would like to.  
> 
> Marlaina
> 
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> On Dec 23, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> Rather than going through all of the status menus just to find one small 
> piece of information, in this case, the battery status, I've done the 
> following.
> Please compile the following Apple script and associate it with a keyboard 
> commander shortcut.
> 
> Happy Holidays to all and be safe out there.
> 
> 
> --Author Hai Nguyen Ly November 28, 2010
> (*
> This Apple script will querie for the battery status and speak the output. 
> This script works best when associated with a keyboard shortcut and used in 
> conjunction with VoiceOver.
> *)
> on isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript()
>   set isRunning to true
>   
>   -- is AppleScript enabled on VoiceOver --
>   tell application "VoiceOver"
>   try
>   set x to bounds of vo cursor
>   on error
>   set isRunning to false
>   end try
>   end tell
>   return isRunning
> end isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript
> 
> set maxCapacity to do shell script "ioreg -w0 -l | grep \"\\\"MaxCapacity\\\" 
> = \""
> set maxLevel to the last word of maxCapacity
> set curCapacity to do shell script "ioreg -w0 -l | grep 
> \"\\\"CurrentCapacity\\\" = \""
> set curLevel to the last word of curCapacity
> set battPct to round (100 * curLevel / maxLevel)
> set output to "Battery " & battPct & "%"
> if isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript() then
>   tell application "VoiceOver"
>   output "Battery " & battPct & "%"
>   end tell
> else
>   say "Battery " & battPct & "%"
> end if
> 
> Regards:
> Hai
> On Dec 23, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> 
>> Pressing VO Shift M twice brings yo to the status menu.  read it like the 
>> menu bar below it; arrow over until you hear the battery status, then down 
>> arrow to check out more battery status and power saver options, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> • My home page:
>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Finding out Battery status

[Scott Ford]

Hi Larry,
I use this key stroke all of the time to find out the time.  That is 
not what the conversation was about though.  The larger question that may have 
not been so clear was that a apple script for finding out the amount of battery 
charge was posted.  When I went to create it and compile it I obviously did not 
completely understand the procedure, because I was constantly receiving syntax 
errors.  The script works because folks on the list have indicated that it did. 
 I would like to learn how to make this script function.  Have a great day.
Merry Christmas,
Scott

On Dec 24, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

> Voiceover already has a command to announce the time. If you have enabled the 
> Keyboard Commander, which is highly recommended on Macs without number pads, 
> just hold down the right option key and press T. You can actually configure 
> the key to use in the Voiceover Utilities program in the Commanders section.
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2010, at 9:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> I would like to learn the step by step proceedure as well.  Please post it, 
>> because it would be a great recource to have in the archives.
>> Sincerely,
>> Scott
>> On Dec 23, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Could somebody talk me through doing this off list?  I hate to clog the 
>>> list but have never done this and would like to.  
>>> 
>>> Marlaina
>>> 
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> On Dec 23, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>> Rather than going through all of the status menus just to find one small 
>>> piece of information, in this case, the battery status, I've done the 
>>> following.
>>> Please compile the following Apple script and associate it with a keyboard 
>>> commander shortcut.
>>> 
>>> Happy Holidays to all and be safe out there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --Author Hai Nguyen Ly November 28, 2010
>>> (*
>>> This Apple script will querie for the battery status and speak the output. 
>>> This script works best when associated with a keyboard shortcut and used in 
>>> conjunction with VoiceOver.
>>> *)
>>> on isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript()
>>> set isRunning to true
>>> 
>>> -- is AppleScript enabled on VoiceOver --
>>> tell application "VoiceOver"
>>> try
>>> set x to bounds of vo cursor
>>> on error
>>> set isRunning to false
>>> end try
>>> end tell
>>> return isRunning
>>> end isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript
>>> 
>>> set maxCapacity to do shell script "ioreg -w0 -l | grep 
>>> \"\\\"MaxCapacity\\\" = \""
>>> set maxLevel to the last word of maxCapacity
>>> set curCapacity to do shell script "ioreg -w0 -l | grep 
>>> \"\\\"CurrentCapacity\\\" = \""
>>> set curLevel to the last word of curCapacity
>>> set battPct to round (100 * curLevel / maxLevel)
>>> set output to "Battery " & battPct & "%"
>>> if isVoiceOverRunningWithAppleScript() then
>>> tell application "VoiceOver"
>>> output "Battery " & battPct & "%"
>>> end tell
>>> else
>>> say "Battery " & battPct & "%"
>>> end if
>>> 
>>> Regards:
>>> Hai
>>> On Dec 23, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Pressing VO Shift M twice brings yo to the status menu.  read it like the 
>>>> menu bar below it; arrow over until you hear the battery status, then down 
>>>> arrow to check out more battery status and power saver options, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>>> • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>>>> • My home page:
>>>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: apple TV and choppy speech

[Scott Ford]

Hi Mary,
HDMI has several versions, depending on how old your receiver is it 
will not carry the audio signals.  I just purchased a new dennon that is HDMI V 
1.42 or 3a and it not only will support dolby trueHD, blue ray 3D, and audio 
that can be used to back feed over the air signals from the tv to the audio 
receiver using the same HDMI cable that provides the signals from the home 
theater.  Have a great day.
Scott
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Michael,
> You asked what surround receiver we have. It is an NAD. I can't recall the 
> model number just now. But my husband read in the manual some very specific 
> language about how you have to connect an optical digital cable along with 
> the hdmi cable if you want the digital audio through the receiver, because 
> the hdmi carries just the video. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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RE: app store

[Scott Ford]

Hi the Pages app in the app store, is it new or the old one?
Scott


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Subject: Re: app store

Nope it is the mac app store so hte apps are for the mac line of devices.

S
On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Sara Waggle wrote:

> Just got the app store update yesterday.  Is this apps for iPhone or apps
for Mac.  I'm a little confused since there's an app store in iTunes.  
> 
> Thanks
> On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, chad wrote:
> 
>> hi anyone know of any accessible radio apps in the store if there's any
>> also i tried swackett but lot of unlabeled buttons
>> thanks
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Re: queztion about Optical drives in the MacBook Pro

[Scott Ford]

Hello,
I had that same problem, the solution was to take it to the apple store 
and have the drive replaced.  Hope that this helps.
Scott

On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Well I encountered a rather odd problem that a total reinstall resolved once 
> before, but that just is not going to be an option whenever this comes up. I 
> have no idea what is causing this problem, but my internal DVD drive will no 
> longer view the contents of a disc. In fact every disc I insert is being 
> reported to the OS as being blank. Of course this also means the drive will 
> not burn any discs either. The last time I encountered this issue I was able 
> to read discs, but not write to them. I have to admit that this problem makes 
> no sense, but I'm leaning toward a bad plist file that is not apparently 
> showing as being bad (if that makes sense). So, does anyone know which plist 
> files I could trash or what else I could possibly do to address this issue? I 
> do not have any DVD burning software installed, which was my initial thought. 
> I did take the machine in about a year and a half ago and had the drive 
> replaced, which at the end of the day turned out not to even be the issue. 
> So, I am pretty confident the drive is not the problem. Now what is more 
> curious is an external drive works perfectly. So, is it possible the internal 
> drive has gone bad? Sure. However, I'm inclined to think it may be a software 
> issue. Of course I may just install SL on an external drive and see what 
> happens, but thought I would put the question out there as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor

[Scott Ford]

Hello,
I just received a new Iphon from the VA yesterday and I saw that it had 
tethering in one of the menus.  Does this mean that if I started to use it I 
would be charged an extra 30 a month?  Am I correct in believing that since the 
VA purchased the phone straight from apple without a plan that the phone is 
unlocked.  My wife was telling me that before I went and got a sim card for the 
phone all kinds of launges were scrolling accross the screen.  I  would kind of 
like to know if it is unlocked.  Thank you for any help.
Scott


On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> sure, give me a minute.  will want to clean up  all the stuff at the top.
> Karen
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually  it's 30 not 20 according to what a rep told me. but yeah can you 
>> copy the article in case others of us saw just the slash link?
>> 
>> S
>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> 
>>> I could read it fine, and will copy if others cannot.
>>> apparently this feature is only available if the carrier offers it.
>>> at&T does not on the personal level, its an extra $20.
>>> Since the feature is already built into the new verizon phone, they must 
>>> plan to offer it for free, its in the settings menu and can just be turned 
>>> on or off.
>>> Or so I gathered from a fast read lol.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I could not read the article as all it  shows is a link coded as slash. 
 but if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ
 
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Re: Apple REmote Desktop

[Scott Ford]

Hello Scott,
I have not used that version, however I have used the version that is 
intigrated in the MBP.  I found that it worked fine, however the voiceover was 
on the controlled machine.  I did not get any audio on the computer that I was 
accessing the controlled machinmachine. Jan 11, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Scott Howell 
wrote:
Sincerely,
Scott


> ALl,
> 
> I was curious if anyone has played with the most recent version of Apple 
> Remote Desktop, 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-remote-desktop/id409907375?mt=12. I was 
> looking around the App store and found this item. I realize this package is 
> $79 and is not for most users, but curious if anyone has tried it and if so, 
> how accessible was it.
> 
> THanks,
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
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New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two.

[Scott Ford]

Hello everyone,
I have been learning my iphone for the last day or two.  I am using the 
keyboard in the touch and then tap with another finger to choose an item.  Is 
this the best way that people have found to type?  Or have people found that 
the drag and release method to be better?  If so I cannot for the life of me 
find where that is changed.  Could someone tell me how to change the setting?  
I saw on the list that one can lock the screen, is there a reason that one 
would want to and why?  Can someone repost that setting as well?  I saved it 
however I cannot find it.  
Now.  I have also saw on the list how to change from archiving gmail 
message to deleting them, I saved that as well, however I cannot find that post 
either.  Can you tell me how?  Is there a way to keep the mail application 
running in the background and switch to other applications or just always have 
it collecting messages?  Thank you for your help. b  
 my opinion and observations.  I am a service connected vet and the VA 
has spent a lot of money on me for adaptive technology.  I sit here and learn 
how to use this device and I am amazed that a company has not taken this 
approach until now.  We have had to endure technology that looks like it was 
developed in soviet Russia for so many years.  In fact we still have devices 
that look and operate this way and cost money that one only shakes their head 
in disgust.  With this device I can operate it totally independent of anyones 
assistance.  I plugged it into my computer and I did not have to do any setup, 
it just worked.  I was syncing with my address book in minutes.  The speech is 
whip lash fast and responsive.  I was using an HTC 4200, when I got it it was 
considered fast.  The speech delay was awful and navigation was painful.  I 
have a device that is a very powerful PDA and could be so much more, however it 
cost around 6200.  and the company will not open the environment for 
development.  I have been pa rousing the app store and I can replace every 
application pick up a braille display and still not reach that cost.  Please 
keep in mind the apps will differ a bit, however in most cases they are 
superior.  I was told by a friend that if one buys an app and it is not 
accessible you can go to the mac store and they will refund your purchase.  I 
certain do not see the adaptive technology company doing that when we discover 
that we cannot accomplish that task that we had intended for the machine to do. 
 I could go on and on but this will get old quickly.
Thank you all for your help.
Scott

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Re: link in e-mail

[Scott Ford]

Hi Ann,
When I would like a right click, I place two fingers on the touch pad 
and press down with my right finger, then I get the menu that the right click 
produces in windows.  I appreciate you posting the control click, I am assuming 
that does the same thing?  I cannot tell you all how much this list helps me 
everyday.  I do not thank everyone for your tips and tricks because I would be 
cluttering the list, however since I am sending a message, I thought that I 
would take the opportunity.  Have a most incredible day everyone.
Sincerely,
Scott

On Dec 30, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello David,
> 
> There is no right click on the Mac! Try Control-Click.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 6:52 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
> 
>> right click.
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2008, at 12:44 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>> Good day all,
>> I have a e-mail that has a link to a mp3 file. If I click on the link the 
>> mp3 is played. How do I get the mp3 to download to my Mac?
>> Thank you for any help.
>> 
>> louie
>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: varifying my payment info on ITouch?

[Scott Ford]

That is what I had to do as well.  I would get to the same point that you got, 
with the same resaults.
Scott

On Jan 16, 2011, at 9:47 AM, brandt wrote:

> Go do it on the mac, then go back to the touch.  I had to do it a while back, 
> and that's the easyest way to go.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
> MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com
> 
> Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
> 
> AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
> 
> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
> - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 4:02 PM
> Subject: varifying my payment info on ITouch?
> 
> 
> Hi guys, I'm trying to log into the app store with my ITouch and it's asking 
> me to verify my credit card details.  So, I checked it out and everything was 
> there except my credit card security code.  I filled that in and hit the done 
> button and nothing happens.  I've double double checked all the info. It's 
> there and correct.  There's no check box or anything that I can find such as 
> "I certify that the above information is correct or anything like that.  It 
> just sits there like a lump.
> I'd appreciate any suggestions,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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RE: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

[Scott Ford]

Hello Everyone,
I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to
respectfully object.  I would like to begin by saying that I feel the topic
is certainly news worthy.  Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how readily
folks on this list are willing to just bow to the "omnipotent Corporation
looking out for our well being."  I feel that Apple is only protecting its
bottom line and that is where it begins and ends.  Fifty years ago the Sears
catalog included schematics so that one could self troubleshoot issues whit
products that were sold in their catalog.  Today we have covers to cover
covers, layering the electronics and mechanical parts of our cars and
hundreds of other devices that we use every day.  As an American I love our
traditional spirit of adventure and personal independence to take a product
designed or meant for one purpose and transform it into something completely
beyond what it was designed for.  In pushing this envelope we have been a
market leader and produced some of the sharpest minds in our century.  I
know for a fact that a few funky shaped screws are not going to stop the
people that I am describing.  I am objecting with the status quo, and the
consensus of the people on this list.  Before I went blind I was a Heavy
equipment Mechanic.  Whenever I would hear about situations like the one
outlined I would be frustrated.  We have an amazing amount of competent
electronic specialists who would not bat an eye at removing the back of
their iPhone to do a minor repair.  I am a ham radio operator and that
spirit is certainly alive and flourishing.  The amount of money that folks
with these skills are saving by doing their own repairs, are nothing short
of amazing.  When I owned a computer store and we would frequently have
computers come in where their capacitors had dried out and exploded.  This
action is so dramatic, that when my friend and business partner who happened
to be one of these skilled electronic technicians that you are saying have
no business tinkering around in a iphone, would replace the capacitors.  Our
customers would think that he had performed nothing short of a miracle.
Along those same lines I had dropped my BN PK and the cards had become
dislodged.  He simply reseated them and I went on my way.  The company had
just charged me 250.00 for new batteries.  He researched it in four minutes
and could have replaced them for me for 18.00.  How much do you think that
Humanware would have charged for reseating my cards, not to mention the
time.  Please do not tell me that this is not news worthy, because it
certainly is.
Sincerely,
Scott  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
hardware they paid for.

Well, that would be like watching tim the tool man tailor, right!
- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the 
hardware they paid for.


Lol,

I think this is quite funny.  Really, unless your the like 1% of iPhone 
owners who want to take your device apart, is this even news worthy?

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about 
> in there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which 
> means they would have to replace or repair it? There is a reason why they 
> don't want the average person messing with the internals. Now once out of 
> warranty, I think you should be able to do whatever you want since if you 
> break it you get to keep the pieces or pay APple to put it back together.
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
>> Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep 
>> consumers out? read more:
>>
>> http://bit.ly/gpoTpd
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RE: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

[Scott Ford]

Hello Ricardo,
I would like to respectfully disagree with your assertion that
things "broke down more frequently, back then."  Today we have engineered
obsolescence, and things are designed to breakdown.  I can provide a laundry
list to this fact, however one fact still remains, I have a fifty year old
refrigerator that is rock solid and my brother-in-law is still running an
old 60 year old Oliver tractor for hulling wood.  Things back then were
accessible for repair though, and the sense of mysticism was not
intentionally bestowed on things.
Sincerely,
Scott  
Scott


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
hardware they paid for.

Ok.

You would fall into that very small minority group in which such information
is news worthy.  You said yourself, some funky screws won't stop the
adventurous type.  I think what Apple did was a waste of time and money.
And at the end of the day, it comes off a little petty.  But the fact still
remains.  Its their products, and they can do whatever they want with it..
Where does it say, you have to provide step by step instructions on how to
dismantle your products.  I think the sears catalog is a bit of a flawed
argument.  They provided the schematics because things broke down a hell of
a lot more 50 years ago than they do now.  Consumers have grown to expect a
higher level of reliability from their devices.  In those 50 years, we have
gone from from the mechanical, were if one was patient enough, could watch
moving parts and figure out what goes where.  These products were also a lot
more tolerant to the novice hand.  Not so much in the digital age.

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On Jan 21, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Scott Ford wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>   I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to
> respectfully object.  I would like to begin by saying that I feel the
topic
> is certainly news worthy.  Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how readily
> folks on this list are willing to just bow to the "omnipotent Corporation
> looking out for our well being."  I feel that Apple is only protecting its
> bottom line and that is where it begins and ends.  Fifty years ago the
Sears
> catalog included schematics so that one could self troubleshoot issues
whit
> products that were sold in their catalog.  Today we have covers to cover
> covers, layering the electronics and mechanical parts of our cars and
> hundreds of other devices that we use every day.  As an American I love
our
> traditional spirit of adventure and personal independence to take a
product
> designed or meant for one purpose and transform it into something
completely
> beyond what it was designed for.  In pushing this envelope we have been a
> market leader and produced some of the sharpest minds in our century.  I
> know for a fact that a few funky shaped screws are not going to stop the
> people that I am describing.  I am objecting with the status quo, and the
> consensus of the people on this list.  Before I went blind I was a Heavy
> equipment Mechanic.  Whenever I would hear about situations like the one
> outlined I would be frustrated.  We have an amazing amount of competent
> electronic specialists who would not bat an eye at removing the back of
> their iPhone to do a minor repair.  I am a ham radio operator and that
> spirit is certainly alive and flourishing.  The amount of money that folks
> with these skills are saving by doing their own repairs, are nothing short
> of amazing.  When I owned a computer store and we would frequently have
> computers come in where their capacitors had dried out and exploded.  This
> action is so dramatic, that when my friend and business partner who
happened
> to be one of these skilled electronic technicians that you are saying have
> no business tinkering around in a iphone, would replace the capacitors.
Our
> customers would think that he had performed nothing short of a miracle.
> Along those same lines I had dropped my BN PK and the cards had become
> dislodged.  He simply reseated them and I went on my way.  The company had
> just charged me 250.00 for new batteries.  He researched it in four
minutes
> and could have replaced them for me for 18.00.  How much do you think that
> Humanware would have charged for reseating my cards, not to mention the
> time.  Please do not tell me that this is not news worthy, because it
> certainly is.
> Sincerely,
> Scott  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@go

RE: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

[Scott Ford]

Hi Ben,
I never really got into figuring out how to do depot level repairs
on the equipment.  I naturally replaced cards and built systems, because
that was part of the operation of a small shop.  I mainly ran the routers,
switches and THS system.  I do know a guy who if you could get him to chisel
out a bit of his time would love to speak with you about how to figure out
work-around for doing them if possible.  He is the guy that I mentioned in
my previous post.
Later,
Scott  


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 5:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
hardware they paid for.

Scott.

Whilst I do agree with you, I feel that in this situation, Apple did
make the right choice by making there iPhones harder to take apart.
You talk about computer repair. When you ran the shop, did you ever
get someone who tried to upgrade or fix the computer themselves? Did
you ever find that it ended up quite a bit worse because of the
attempted fix?
Now, picture a really small device, with lots of surface mounted
components inside it - those components that are removable will be
connected via ribbon cables. I don't know if you've ever encountered a
ribbon cable, but you can't mess about with these things if you want
them to work after.
Lets be honest. If someone has the required knolige to fix an iPhone,
it would be a trivial matter for them to research the correct tools
needed to open the device. Whilst I do agree that the way that
companies protect there devices is getting slightly over the top, what
sort of crazy mods do you think people would be able to come up with
for the iPhone? Do you think that people would be able to uncover a
secret dipswitch and suddenly be able to overclock there cpu's by
200%?

I do intend to open my 3gs soon to replace the glass and the battery,
but I know that if I break it, it's my fault. Do you remember those
old dell optiplex machines from 10 12 years ago where the cases were a
nightmare to remove? That wasn't to stop the hardcore geek from
upgrading there hardware, it was to stop the kind of person who would
break there computer by attempting an upgrade from upgrading it and
lets be honest, there are quite a few of those people.

As a side note (and I'm more than happy to take this off list if you
want), as a total, did you ever find a way to replace capacitors on
motherboards in the repair shop? I've been investigating component
level repairs on both desktop and laptop boards and would be
interested in speaking with people who can replace dc jacks, usb
ports, capacitors and people who are able to reflow the nvidia gpu's
that suffered from cracked solder due to overheating.

On 21/01/2011, Scott Ford  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>   I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to
> respectfully object.  I would like to begin by saying that I feel the
topic
> is certainly news worthy.  Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how readily
> folks on this list are willing to just bow to the "omnipotent Corporation
> looking out for our well being."  I feel that Apple is only protecting its
> bottom line and that is where it begins and ends.  Fifty years ago the
Sears
> catalog included schematics so that one could self troubleshoot issues
whit
> products that were sold in their catalog.  Today we have covers to cover
> covers, layering the electronics and mechanical parts of our cars and
> hundreds of other devices that we use every day.  As an American I love
our
> traditional spirit of adventure and personal independence to take a
product
> designed or meant for one purpose and transform it into something
completely
> beyond what it was designed for.  In pushing this envelope we have been a
> market leader and produced some of the sharpest minds in our century.  I
> know for a fact that a few funky shaped screws are not going to stop the
> people that I am describing.  I am objecting with the status quo, and the
> consensus of the people on this list.  Before I went blind I was a Heavy
> equipment Mechanic.  Whenever I would hear about situations like the one
> outlined I would be frustrated.  We have an amazing amount of competent
> electronic specialists who would not bat an eye at removing the back of
> their iPhone to do a minor repair.  I am a ham radio operator and that
> spirit is certainly alive and flourishing.  The amount of money that folks
> with these skills are saving by doing their own repairs, are nothing short
> of amazing.  When I owned a computer store and we would frequently have
> computers come in where their capacitors had dried out and exploded.  This
> action is so dramatic, that when my frien

RE: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

[Scott Ford]

Hello Ricardo and everyone else who has posted to this thread,
I would have to agree that everyone has a bit of truth in what is
being posted.  We certainly can make many more mods to the equipment than we
are led to believe.  That is fine though, because you all are correct many
folks just do not care, however there more people than you might think who
want to be able to make them.  Maybe the android folks are those people, I
do not know.  I will also agree that it is very nice to pick the device up
and just have it work as advertised.  I have gone through so much technology
that never lives up to what is advertised.  I really like my iphone and
would never dream of cracking it open.  In any case this is about as far as
I can carry this conversation.  Have a wonderful night..
Sincerely,
Scott  


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
hardware they paid for.

I guess we will just agree to disagree here.  :).  I don't think its
mysticism.  I think people just don't care.  Because of the obsolescence you
pointed out that is built into devices.  Why spend time fixing something
that will be outdated anyway?  That pretty much sums up the computer age.  I
think time also plays into this equation.  50 years ago, people had much
more time to tinker.  Or at least, they're were less options of things to
do.  People work longer hours now than 50 years ago, and hence some can't or
won't sacrifice the time to learn how to take something as complex as a
smart phone apart, and fix it.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Scott Ford wrote:

> Hello Ricardo,
>   I would like to respectfully disagree with your assertion that
> things "broke down more frequently, back then."  Today we have engineered
> obsolescence, and things are designed to breakdown.  I can provide a
laundry
> list to this fact, however one fact still remains, I have a fifty year old
> refrigerator that is rock solid and my brother-in-law is still running an
> old 60 year old Oliver tractor for hulling wood.  Things back then were
> accessible for repair though, and the sense of mysticism was not
> intentionally bestowed on things.
> Sincerely,
> Scott  
> Scott
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the
> hardware they paid for.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> You would fall into that very small minority group in which such
information
> is news worthy.  You said yourself, some funky screws won't stop the
> adventurous type.  I think what Apple did was a waste of time and money.
> And at the end of the day, it comes off a little petty.  But the fact
still
> remains.  Its their products, and they can do whatever they want with it..
> Where does it say, you have to provide step by step instructions on how to
> dismantle your products.  I think the sears catalog is a bit of a flawed
> argument.  They provided the schematics because things broke down a hell
of
> a lot more 50 years ago than they do now.  Consumers have grown to expect
a
> higher level of reliability from their devices.  In those 50 years, we
have
> gone from from the mechanical, were if one was patient enough, could watch
> moving parts and figure out what goes where.  These products were also a
lot
> more tolerant to the novice hand.  Not so much in the digital age.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>>  I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to
>> respectfully object.  I would like to begin by saying that I feel the
> topic
>> is certainly news worthy.  Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how
readily
>> folks on this list are willing to just bow to the "omnipotent Corporation
>> looking out for our well being."  I feel that Apple is only protecting
its
>> bottom line and that is where it begins and ends.  Fifty years ago the
> Sears
>> catalog included schematics so that one could self troubleshoot issues
> whit
>> products that were sold in their catalog.  Today we have covers to cover
>> covers, layering the electronics and mechanical parts o

RE: Switching to Mac the missing manual

[Scott Ford]

I have been told that the folks from the mac store can refund purchases for
you if they are not accessable.  
Scott

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: carolyn Haas
Subject: Switching to Mac the missing manual

Hi:
I wanted a purchased copy of this book, and thought I was finding a gem at
the app store.  I bought an iPad version, and it is a mess with VO.  I
brought it into my Apple store, and my trainer says indeed it isn't
accessible.  Guess I waisted $5.99.  That store can sure confuse me easily.
I thought it was odd seeing that book as an App.  


Anyhow, Guess I'm disrecommending the app.

Carolyn H

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Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

[Scott Ford]

Hi Scott G,
I feel the same way as you, and for many of the same reasons.  Have a 
wonderful everyone.
Scott Ford
On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Wow, this is one of the most short sited and close minded responses I've ever 
> seen.
> 
> That's like saying everything the Government says is true or police are here 
> to help all the time.  
> 
> Lets take it from the top.
> 
> Tweaking, taking things apart and curiosity are some of the most basic 
> traights.  If you don't have that you've missed out on one of the most key 
> and fundamental parts of the human experience.
> 
>   I spent many an hour with my father as a child taking things apart, 
> learning how they worked and even sometimes putting them back together.  You 
> could never put a price on the value of that time.  My career today directly 
> hindges on the fact that my interests in electronics and things technical 
> were stimulated from an extremely early age.
> 
> Next, who the hell is anybody to say that something I've bought isn't mine to 
> do with as I please.  Apple entered in to a deal with me, I gave them money 
> and they gave me a device.  If I wish to use that device as a coaster I 
> should be able to.  If I want to pop it open and see how it works I should.  
> If I buy a windows phone and I want all the features enabled that's my choise 
> because I paid for it not some carrier or manufacturor so I'm unlocking the 
> boot loader and fixing the problems.  If you sell me a CDMA device and leave 
> open the ability to edit the access over load class so my calls have the same 
> priority as the president or emergency responders and I figure that out, 
> that's your fault not mine for using a feature made available to me.  
> 
> Your position is an immoral one.  It's wrong to sell me something then tell 
> me what I can do with it.  If you want that sort of deal lease it to me then. 
>  That way, I don't own it, you preserve your property and IP rights and I 
> have to play by your rules, else get out of the way of my experimentation.
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> 
>> ahem, I think not.  the smarter than average thinker will think it unwise to 
>> tinker with such an investment.
>> I have note even read it, and i find the concept hilarious!
>> Actually its rather common for them makers of electronics to strongly 
>> suggest that opening them up to have a look is a very bad idea.
>> I for one prefer things like my television refrigerator and  yes even my 
>> iphone if I had one kept closed.  I feel such devices deserve the respect of 
>> keeping their innards private.  Modesty to say the least you know?
>> Karen
>> 
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh no I'm aware of that and I don't have even the knoledge of the inside of 
>>> any phone lol! but what about those of us who are smarter then the avrage 
>>> tinkerer? lol. they might be able to make a something that might make my 
>>> phone do my dishes and homework. lol!
>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about 
>>>> in there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which 
>>>> means they would have to replace or repair it? There is a reason why they 
>>>> don't want the average person messing with the internals. Now once out of 
>>>> warranty, I think you should be able to do whatever you want since if you 
>>>> break it you get to keep the pieces or pay APple to put it back together.
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep 
>>>>> consumers out? read more:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://bit.ly/gpoTpd
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Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short

[Scott Ford]

Hello yall,
 I had heard some time back that the new version was going to be out 
any day.  That was at least three months ago.  I know that apple is really 
tight lipped but is there any new info on a release date.
Scott  


On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Kevin,
> 
> On 31 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Kevin Chao wrote:
> 
>> Below are various aspects  of iWork, when it comes to content 
>> browsing/viewing, where VoiceOver falls short.
>> 
>> Pages
>> * VoiceOver find doesn't ' always work, which requires arrowing around
> I haven't experienced this. Did you use the standard find command (Cmd-F)? It 
> highlights the text you search for.
> 
>> document and repeating find.
>> * Going from end of page to next page, a sound indicates page turn;
>> VoiceOver is silent and doesn't read first line of following page.
>> 
> Sometimes you have to stop interacting and interact with the next page.
> 
>> Numbers
>> * Navigating  around, Voiceover will double/triple speak cell
>> coordinates, speak word "cell" and order in which info is read isn't
>> consistent.
>> 
> This is a choice you can make in VoiceOver Utility. I have no problem of this 
> sort with Numbers.
> 
>> KeyNote
>> * Slide show view, interact with table, VoiceOver doesn't see slide
>> content. Doesn't matter if it's a KeyNote document or PowerPoint 2003.
>> 
> What view are you talking about? If you mean Slide Only, then I can read the 
> slides just fine.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Ical help!

[Scott Ford]

Hello Everyone,
I am intrested in starting to use Ical, however when I start the 
application I get voiceover telling me that Ical has no windows.  I tried to do 
a command 1 like in mail.  Nothing happened.  I attempted to bring up the menu 
and nothing happens, I get no menu.  if I do a second vo m I get the menue with 
the time and everything.  Does anyone know what is going on.  Do I need to 
reinstall the application?
Thank you in advanced.
Scott

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Re: Ical help!

[Scott Ford]

Darn, that did not work.  I only got a cord sound when I press command 0.
Any help is greatfully requested.  Where would this leave me if I cannote even 
reinstall?
Scott

On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Jes Smith wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> Not sure why the menus are not showing up for you in ICal, but if you start 
> ICal and it says ICal has no Windows, press command-0 and you should hear 
> "ICal, checked."
> You cannot reinstall the application as it's built-in to Mac OS X.
> HTH
> Let me know if it does.
> Jes
> 
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>>  I am intrested in starting to use Ical, however when I start the 
>> application I get voiceover telling me that Ical has no windows.  I tried to 
>> do a command 1 like in mail.  Nothing happened.  I attempted to bring up the 
>> menu and nothing happens, I get no menu.  if I do a second vo m I get the 
>> menue with the time and everything.  Does anyone know what is going on.  Do 
>> I need to reinstall the application?
>> Thank you in advanced.
>> Scott
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RE: Ical help!

[Scott Ford]

Hi Sarah,
What is the procedure that you used to do that.  Is "trashme" a
third party application?Thank you for your help.
Scott


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ical help!

Have you tried trashme to get rid of ical? I have successfully removed
address book and reinstalled it that way.

Good luck
On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Hai Nguyen wrote:

> Scott, 
> I too am experiencing similar issues with using iCal. I've tried
reinstalling iCal from my SnowLeopard disk with no luck. My guess is that
there are corrupted preference files somewhere that need to be trashed. I've
been looking for an answer that doesn't involve a reinstallation of OSX, but
it doesn't look good.
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Darn, that did not work.  I only got a cord sound when I press command 0.
>> Any help is greatfully requested.  Where would this leave me if I cannote
even reinstall?
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Jes Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> Not sure why the menus are not showing up for you in ICal, but if you
start ICal and it says ICal has no Windows, press command-0 and you should
hear "ICal, checked."
>>> You cannot reinstall the application as it's built-in to Mac OS X.
>>> HTH
>>> Let me know if it does.
>>> Jes
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>I am intrested in starting to use Ical, however when I start the
application I get voiceover telling me that Ical has no windows.  I tried to
do a command 1 like in mail.  Nothing happened.  I attempted to bring up the
menu and nothing happens, I get no menu.  if I do a second vo m I get the
menue with the time and everything.  Does anyone know what is going on.  Do
I need to reinstall the application?
>>>> Thank you in advanced.
>>>> Scott
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RE: Ical help!

[Scott Ford]

You are not making feel much better.  Thank you anyway.
Scott

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hai Nguyen
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ical help!

Scott, 
I too am experiencing similar issues with using iCal. I've tried
reinstalling iCal from my SnowLeopard disk with no luck. My guess is that
there are corrupted preference files somewhere that need to be trashed. I've
been looking for an answer that doesn't involve a reinstallation of OSX, but
it doesn't look good.


On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Scott Ford wrote:

> Darn, that did not work.  I only got a cord sound when I press command 0.
> Any help is greatfully requested.  Where would this leave me if I cannote
even reinstall?
> Scott
> 
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Jes Smith wrote:
> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> Not sure why the menus are not showing up for you in ICal, but if you
start ICal and it says ICal has no Windows, press command-0 and you should
hear "ICal, checked."
>> You cannot reinstall the application as it's built-in to Mac OS X.
>> HTH
>> Let me know if it does.
>> Jes
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> I am intrested in starting to use Ical, however when I start the
application I get voiceover telling me that Ical has no windows.  I tried to
do a command 1 like in mail.  Nothing happened.  I attempted to bring up the
menu and nothing happens, I get no menu.  if I do a second vo m I get the
menue with the time and everything.  Does anyone know what is going on.  Do
I need to reinstall the application?
>>> Thank you in advanced.
>>> Scott
>>> 
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RE: Drop box on iPhone and text editors

[Scott Ford]

Good morning E.,

I like to use the text editor elements, because it integrates
right into drop box.

Scott

 

 

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Subject: Dropbox on iPhone and text editors

 

Good morning,

 

I am wondering if anyone has tested dropbox with any compatible text editors
on the iPhone and if they know of any accessible solutions

 

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Re: A growl tip

[Scott Ford]

Hi Chris,
I would like to mention that this is one of those cases the I must have 
missed, because I did not know that bit of information.  I realize that the one 
liners are not saposto happen, however I occasionally like to see basic 
information.  I am not calling for a clutter of information to the list, 
however if someone has compiled nuggets that could be posted for newbees and 
thick folks such as myself I would appreciate this.  Additionally if there is a 
compiled list of outdated techniques and piths that have been dispelled, they 
may be helpful for people.  Again thank you for this message.
Sincerely,
Scott  
On Apr 11, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Chris Norman wrote:

> Hiya all,
> I imagine that most people have already figured this out, but I found 
> something cool this morning regarding growl.
> 
> If you go to system preferences, to the growl preference pain, and "Display 
> preferences", third tab, set the default notification type to anything except 
> smoke, and notifications become automagically accessible. I'm using Notify OS 
> X, but you could probably use anything.
> 
> HTH,.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Chris Norman
> Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com
> Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com]
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RE: Accessible Weather Radio App for iOS devices

[Scott Ford]

Hi Thank you for the heads up.  This sounds great, however the 9.95 seems
just a bit high to me compaired to other apps.  I was able to listen to my
weather station using the tuneup app.  This certainly does not compare to
the feather set that imap provides thanks again.
Scott


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
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Subject: Accessible Weather Radio App for iOS devices

All:
I wanted to let you know Imap Weather Radio has just arrived in the app
store today. It's accessible with Voiceover. This weather radio can alert
you to bad weather using your GPS location, or you can program up to 5
locations. Allerts can be customized for specific weather events. So far, it
is very good. You can also listen to your local weather radio station.

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RE: IPad II thoughts

[Scott Ford]

Hi Kevin,
Can you send a link to the cover that you got.  My wife hates the
apple cover that she got.  She does not want to scratch her presious ipad.
Yes I am a bit frustrated, she will not let me touch the damn thing except
for little fragments of time when I can add apps or fix something.  In any
case I would like to pass your thoughts on to her.  
Scott


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Subject: IPad II thoughts

I got my IPad 2 on Monday. I have to say it has been an awesome experience
so far. Most apps that work on the IPhone seem to work much better on the
IPad. The accessibility is better and the performance has been impressive. I
bought the super cover from Apple and after I got it, I was disappointed in
it. It was just a cover for the screen and left the IPad exposed on the back
and sides. I ended up returning the cover and getting a sweet cover from
Amazon for $19.95. The $19.95 cost vs the $69.95 was a reality check. The
cover I bought works just like the Apple cover but offers more protection
and yes, it wakes the IPad up like it should.

All in all, it has been a good experience and I'm glad I bought it.

Kev

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Re: help! speech is off, but..

[Scott Ford]

Hi aitlyn,
You can do a vo+ a rotate to turn thetrackpad commander on, then do a 
three finger dubble tap and this will unmute the voiceover
Later,
Scott
On May 23, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I hope somebody here can help with this problem.
> 
> I am trying to get my husband, Mark's mac to talk again.   Voiceover is 
> running, but I think the speech is muted.  I attached my braille sense to it 
> so I could tell what was going on, and it looks like the check box in the 
> voice over utility to mute speech is *not* checked, yet it's still stubbornly 
> silent, except that when I turn it off, then back on again, it says voiceover 
> on, speech off.  Unfortunately, it's a stupid holiday here in Canada, so I 
> can't call apple.
> 
> Is there a shortcut key to mute speech that I am not aware of? Anybody got a 
> way to fix this?
> 
> Mega thanks!
> 
> Caitlyn
> ps-Mark says he didn't hit any keys to make the computer mute and was just 
> trying to quit safari when it happened.
> 
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