Audio description on CBS all access using iPhone or Apple TV
Has anyone had success finding how to access audio description in the CBS all axis app on either your iPhone or your Apple TV? I am interested in the new Star Trek Picard series, and I understand it’s supposedly has audio description. A friend of mine, who watches this series with sided friends, says that those folks tried to access audible description, but were not successful. I don’t know exactly what they did, hence my question. How do you get audio description on CBS all axis with an iPhone or an Apple TV? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/667D75EC-94D9-4C98-B571-A3B0E060E74B%40gmail.com.
Re: Possible bug with iOS 13.4?
The bug is back. It was reported and not fixed. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: > > I updated my phone to IOS 13.4 this morning and have noticed that when I > open a new email and do a two finger swipe up to read all it just goes donk > donk each time I do it, I can still do the two finger swipe down to read from > the current location. I used to be able to read all with the two finger swipe > up, has anyone else noticed this?I turned the phone off and back on and > closed the mail app in the app switcher but it’s still the same. > Sent from Petrus' MacBook > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/18C82786-C62F-46CB-8CFE-DFAFF2C6F2C6%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9D24A3E2-C127-40E6-BC75-790383F50481%40gmail.com.
Re: Mesh Wifi Routers
We also have the Orbi and are happy with it. I think it is the RBK 50, but I’m not totally sure so I would have to get some checking on that. The app is reasonably accessible. There’s part of it that isn’t, some sort of map that shows where your points are and how to optimize them. But it is accessible in that you can do what you need to do. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hey ET, > > We hav the Orby and are very happy with it. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 9, 2020, at 7:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I'm considering going mesh and was looking at some Netgear models. >> Anyone using one of these? >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> Many believe that we have been visited >> in the past. What if it were true? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/cb74e819-d4f9-247e-8ed4-eebb565cdbc6%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/27A6D217-07FD-4F00-B31D-0025C70880F0%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F42E65A9-0CCE-4207-9628-910EF055DB6B%40gmail.com.
Re: How Do You Mute the Chat In A Zoom Meeting
I don’t know anything about zoom for the Mac, but cant you mute voiceover speech? It’s easy enough to do on the phone, and I thought there was a way to do it on the Mac as well. Then if you need to navigate around, just unmute the speech. I know it’s a workaround, but it should work, just like it works when you do that with close captions that are being read out or other things that you don’t want. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Joy Cyr wrote: > > Subject line sums it up, ... I can't follow what the speaker is saying > because voice over tries to read what is being posted. And if I leave the > window it is even worse since whatever it is reading out the chat feed is > very loud and can't be interrupted. (Not that hitting control while in the > window helps.) > > I am on an iMac. > Any help much appreciated, > Thank YOU! > Joy > "Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. ... Life > is either a daring adventure or nothing. ..." > -- Helen Keller > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CECEEE97-BC08-417C-BDCF-24576396D580%40aei.ca. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/90247AD0-DBFA-48DD-88BD-930AB4C68570%40gmail.com.
Re: Picker Items
In theory, you double tap on the picker, then you flick up or down, or I have even occasionally seen them from left to right, to pick the item you want. The problem which has become more so with iOS 13 is that sometimes when you double tap on the picker, the list doesn’t pop up. I have no idea why. Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2020, at 4:23 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > In iOS 13, how does one handle these? I cannot figure out how to select > what I need either via gestures or keyboard. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1224c2f6-4e09-34c3-3c9c-c5480f59dafc%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AF2A5B93-6B46-46DC-9242-CBCD220F912B%40gmail.com.
Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?
This is just an API that Apple and Google have built. In order to use it, you need an app. To the best of my knowledge, only three states have said they are participating in this program at this time, many have not said, and some have said no. It will be up to the health authority of each state to build their own app. Google and Apple should have built the app in my view. This is going to be slow, incomplete, and probably not very well done, e.g. look at what’s happening in the united kingdom where their app has been delayed. The three states that have said yes our Alabama, North Dakota, and I believe North Carolina. States that I’ve said no include Maryland, Pennsylvania, California, Texas, and others. Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2020, at 11:51 AM, 'Maria Reyes' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > my understanding is that it works through bluetooth. so I'm guessing you > would have to log if you have COVID-19 into an app and your phone will notify > you if you have been exposed. there aren't any apps yet. > > sent from the iPhone 11 Pro > >>> On May 21, 2020, at 11:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >> Nice article, Tim. Thanks for sharing. >> >> I guess I'm with you. I hope more information is forthcoming. the fact that >> this is a shared effort between Apple and Google is, to my thinking, part of >> what makes it cool, and gives it such potential. It would be a shame for >> that potential to be wasted, either because the supporting apps don't exist, >> or because users aren't given information about what apps they need to >> install. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On May 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have >>> developed apps for tracking would request this data. It kind of depends on >>> your local/regional government. I agree in that it is not well explained. >>> Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative. It’s >>> developed by both Apple and Google for implementation on both platforms. >>> I’m hoping that someone like Mac Rumours or some other Internet big-wig >>> puts out a better explanation of the process to the masses. >>> >>> In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology >>> have yet to be developed or released. Here’s a bit of an explanation from >>> a Canadian prospective. >>> >>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166 >>> >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how >>> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific >>> apps you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I >>> see no apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this >>> is really a bust. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the details of how it works. Later… Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. > Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells > me that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app > installed. So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 > app. I installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting > the message that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does > anyone know what I need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a > big miss by Apple. If they expect people to use this, they needed to let > us know what we need to do. > Cheers, > Donna > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara
Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student
For me, the reason I don’t use a Mac anymore has to do with PDF files and web usage. I found PDFs really difficult to deal with except the short and super simple ones, and in my view, voiceover just doesn’t cut it as compared to windows screen readers with various browsers. It gets busy and goes in circles etc. Now I haven’t had a Mac in a couple of years. But I always keep asking about PDF, and so far, crickets. So no voiceover and Mac for me anymore. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:50 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Yes, the Victor Reader still uses SD Cards. > I was thinking back to my college days. > I will not be convinced that the Mac can replace Windows until OCR is > included in VoiceOver by default much like we may see in IOS15. > I was trying to ask questions that the article did not address. > I think I have unreasonable expectations for the Mac though given that > Windows doesn’t allow you to answer calls as seamlessly as the Mac can. > If Apple would only add the same features from IOS to the Mac the OS would be > even better i.e. include the OCR recognition and improve the catalyst app > experience. > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:44 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a > Mac as a Blind Student > > I’m confused with some of your questions but I will give it a go. First, I > know there are some OcR solutions with the Mac but I have not dealt with them > since like you said, the phone can handle that. As for Kindle, is it any > better on Windows? You can always get Alexa to read those as well. There is a > Learning Ally app for the phone. Unzipping, are you talking about the Mac or > phone? It’s a piece of cake on the Mac, do a command O on the Zip file, and > it will create a new folder with all the content. PDF’s, you have Preview, > Chrome, or Adobe as options to pursue. Preview comes as part of the Mac and > is usable. As for the Victor,, do they still use SD cards? > > > On Sep 17, 2021, at 04:08, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle > eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that. > Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone? > What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a > Victor Reader Stream? > What about reading PDF files? > > From: tech...@groups.io On Behalf Of David Goldfield > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 2:29 AM > To: tech...@groups.iotv > Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac > as a Blind Student > > iPhoneArena - Monday, September 13, 2021 at 5:14 PM > 5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student > > 5 Reasons why a Mac Is a Great choice for a Blind Student > > If you live with sight loss, going to a new college or university can bring a > host of new experiences and challenges. Stressing over your assistive > technology should not be one of them. The inevitable question will arise: > What computing platform should you choose for your academics? Mac or Windows? > If you’re blind, in a hurry and want to get to the meat of this article, the > correct choice is a Mac. Now here’s why. > 1. Cost vs. Benefits > > If you’re a time-crunched student who has to sort out accessible books, > travel, classes and other school concerns, you want a computer that saves you > time. Macs do this by bundling all of the needed software with the machine. > In addition to VoiceOver and Zoom, Macs come with built-in productivity tools > such as Pages, Numbers and Keynote. These apps are accessible right away and > there’s no need to install anything else to get them to work with the > assistive technology. > The trade-off is cost. Yes, Macs can be more expensive in the short term, but > the alternative is buying a PC, paying for an installing a screen reader, > paying for and installing productivity apps and configuring the machine to > your liking. When all is said and done, you may actually lose time installing > and configuring extra software whereas with a Mac, you can simply turn the > machine on and start working right away. > 2. The Apple Ecosystem > > When you buy any Apple product, you’re jumping into the Apple ecosystem. > Macs, iPhones, Air Pods, Home Pods and iCloud all work together seamlessly. > This is another time saver if you’re a blind student looking to have > everything work the first time with no let downs. This not only lets you > focus on your studies, but you are creating an ecosystem of products that can > grow as you purchase Apple products down the road. > 3. Low Maintenance > > It’s 2 in the morning and you’ve got a major paper due in 7 hours. As you’re > settling into your writing flow, do you want to be interrupted with reminders > to defragment
Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student
Make sure your PDF has tables, headings, links, all the stuff that many PDFs have. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2021, at 11:01 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Well, > Let me try reading a PDF on my M1 Mac and get back to you. > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 1:59 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a > Mac as a Blind Student > > For me, the reason I don’t use a Mac anymore has to do with PDF files and web > usage. I found PDFs really difficult to deal with except the short and super > simple ones, and in my view, voiceover just doesn’t cut it as compared to > windows screen readers with various browsers. It gets busy and goes in > circles etc. Now I haven’t had a Mac in a couple of years. But I always keep > asking about PDF, and so far, crickets. So no voiceover and Mac for me > anymore. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:50 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Yes, the Victor Reader still uses SD Cards. > I was thinking back to my college days. > I will not be convinced that the Mac can replace Windows until OCR is > included in VoiceOver by default much like we may see in IOS15. > I was trying to ask questions that the article did not address. > I think I have unreasonable expectations for the Mac though given that > Windows doesn’t allow you to answer calls as seamlessly as the Mac can. > If Apple would only add the same features from IOS to the Mac the OS would be > even better i.e. include the OCR recognition and improve the catalyst app > experience. > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:44 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a > Mac as a Blind Student > > I’m confused with some of your questions but I will give it a go. First, I > know there are some OcR solutions with the Mac but I have not dealt with them > since like you said, the phone can handle that. As for Kindle, is it any > better on Windows? You can always get Alexa to read those as well. There is a > Learning Ally app for the phone. Unzipping, are you talking about the Mac or > phone? It’s a piece of cake on the Mac, do a command O on the Zip file, and > it will create a new folder with all the content. PDF’s, you have Preview, > Chrome, or Adobe as options to pursue. Preview comes as part of the Mac and > is usable. As for the Victor,, do they still use SD cards? > > > > On Sep 17, 2021, at 04:08, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > The only problem I see with this analysis is lack of support for the Kindle > eReader and OCR out of the box but the iPhone can take care of that. > Is it possible to use Learning Ally materials on an iPhone? > What about unzipping Bookshare books or transferring NLS materials to a > Victor Reader Stream? > What about reading PDF files? > > From: tech...@groups.io On Behalf Of David Goldfield > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 2:29 AM > To: tech...@groups.iotv > Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] From iPhone Arena :5 Reasons to Choose a Mac > as a Blind Student > > iPhoneArena - Monday, September 13, 2021 at 5:14 PM > 5 Reasons to Choose a Mac as a Blind Student > > 5 Reasons why a Mac Is a Great choice for a Blind Student > > If you live with sight loss, going to a new college or university can bring a > host of new experiences and challenges. Stressing over your assistive > technology should not be one of them. The inevitable question will arise: > What computing platform should you choose for your academics? Mac or Windows? > If you’re blind, in a hurry and want to get to the meat of this article, the > correct choice is a Mac. Now here’s why. > 1. Cost vs. Benefits > > If you’re a time-crunched student who has to sort out accessible books, > travel, classes and other school concerns, you want a computer that saves you > time. Macs do this by bundling all of the needed software with the machine. > In addition to VoiceOver and Zoom, Macs come with built-in productivity tools > such as Pages, Numbers and Keynote. These apps are accessible right away and > there’s no need to install anything else to get them to work with the > assistive technology. > The trade-off is cost. Yes, Macs can be more expensive in the short term, but > the alternative is buying a PC, paying for an installing a screen reader, > paying for and installing productivity apps and configuring the machine to > your liking. When all is said
Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users
I have hope everybody who has tried this and found it less than wonderful has been riding to Apple accessibility and wherever else you might have contact. It’s ridiculous. This is one of the main components in their stupid bundle that we have to buy if we want to get a deal. This and the games are totally worthless for voiceover users. So I say again: Apple: make an accessibility bundle. Let us pick the stuff we want that actually we can use and get a break on the price just like the sighted people. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2021, at 3:45 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Thank you for the feedback, Julie. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Julie Rattray > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 12:58 AM > To: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users > > Yes my experience is like yours very video based and hard to follow as the > audio that goes with video not really descriptive enough - assumes you can > see video - hoping for more audio content in the future > >> On 17 Sep 2021, at 01:01, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Question: does anyone use or has anyone used Apple Fitness Plus? If >> so, how was / is your experience? >> >> So much of the content is video-based, at least, that is how it >> appears in all of the Apple Keynote Presentations. >> >> I know that they mentioned something about adding more audio-based >> content to the service but just wanted to get some feedback here in the >> forum. >> >> I look forward to your replies, >> >> Mark >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000301d7ab57%241eb805c0%245c281140%24%40edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BDDE4FFB-868E-4835-BEB2-AE5930CC02EA%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000901d7acde%24d0fda540%2472f8efc0%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on
Re: Problem ending a workout on Apple Watch
Hi Paul, I have the same as you, but I use Siri to start and stop workouts. Generally it works like a charm. Sometimes, Siri can’t do a connection or some dumb thing, but if I repeat what I want, it generally works. And despite the occasional missed connection with Siri, I think this is faster than flicking around as you described. Hope that helps. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello, > I am running Watch OS 8.0.1 on my Apple Watch SE. > > I have problems ending a workout such as Outdoor Walk or Core Exercise. > Before upgrading to Watch OS 8 when I had finished the workout I used to go > to the appropriate workout and flick down to get to page 1 and then double > tap the end button. That resulted in a summary of the workout showing > duration, average heart rate, calories and so on. I then pressed the done > button to get back to the watch face. > > Since upgrading to Watch OS 8 I can no longer reliably get to the page where > I can end the workout. Instead flicking down gets to a page about playing the > next music track which does not work because the watch is not set up to play > music. Note that I do not want to play any music anywhere during the workout. > I do not know why the workout now wants to play music. > > Any thoughts on why this is happening and what I can do to fix it? > > Many thanks … Paul Hopewell > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8E01D9D4-3636-41F1-905A-937051FD3042%40hopewell.org.uk. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2E7C40C5-C62C-4D6E--8EA524270C03%40gmail.com.
My HomePod will not play music
I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and to sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using the Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can hand off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used to work fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any suggestions? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/69EEEC7B-1672-4CA5-9E8F-F07377EC984C%40gmail.com.
Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone
Well, I don’t have an official invitation yet, but I did try clicking on the link that was in the original message where you could supposedly go and get a group subscription link that way. Except I got the same message that Max did. You don’t have permission to access this content. You can try logging in, but to do that, you must already be subscribed. I really don’t like Google. It’s too bad we can’t go to groups.io. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2022, at 1:11 PM, Agent086b wrote: > > Hi, > clicking on the link in the invite email takes me to a 404 error page not > found. > Cara clicking on the link in your message to the list says I don’t have > access to that page also. > Can anybody give me any pointers? > Thanks for any help. > Max > >> On 28 Jan 2022, at 11:14 am, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >> hey Max, no worries and you’re not thick! :) >> >> yes, go ahead and click on the link in the email to accept the invitation. >> >> I haven’t actually seen what the invites look like from the receiving end so >> perhaps someone else here may be of more help regarding the actual wording >> of the links in the invitation. >> >> -But yes, you will need to accept the invitation to be a part of the group. >> >> If you need any more help, please feel free to write me directly and we can >> go from there. >> >> Best of luck! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> >> On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Agent086b wrote: >>> >>> hi, >>> I am a bit thick I know! If we receive an invitation does that mean we then >>> click on the link to join? >>> Or is this not necessary? >>> Max. >>> On 27 Jan 2022, at 11:19 am, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi All, I have some good news! Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens from there. Over the next few days, Mark and I will be inviting all of the original members of VIPhone. So if you wish, you need only wait for your invitation. This will take a few days because we are limited in the amount of invites we can send out each day. For those who would rather request a group subscription directly, here is the link to the group page. https://groups.google.com/g/viphone2 I know this is not the smoothest solution, but we’re a great group of people and we will adapt! :) -And maybe even make this a better list than what we had. You never know! :) -Either way, let’s all enjoy the new list! Thanks very much to you all for your patience and please let me wish you all a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! Cheers! Cara -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4AEF2094-62E6-4264-B705-3E14A88CFEF9%40caraquinn.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/73CA9939-5137-4951-9C3E-48B13FBE1514%40internode.on.net. >> >> -- >> The following information is importan
Re: Clicking links embedded in iOS text messages
This used to work reliably. It’s been broken for quite some time, and yes I have reported it. Occasionally it works. Mostly it does not. Even when I’m right on the text that says “link“, when I turn my rotor to links and flick up or down, nothing. I don’t know why, but mostly it’s a Knogo. Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > Set your rotor to Links, and then swipe up or down as appropriate. This > should place focus on the link, where you can do a one finger double tap to > execute the link. > > HTH. > > - Brad - > > On May 5, 2022, at 11:13, Phil Halton wrote: > > How does one go about interacting with links that are embedded in text > messages in the iOS message app? I don’t use a lot of texting, but > occasionally I need to click a link in a message that was sent to me and for > the life of me I can’t find any way of clicking that link. It is reported by > voiceover as a link, but there is no links in the rotor and if I navigate to > it by word and land on it and try to click that doesn’t even work. > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/69E69C65-6A51-416A-871E-58593DECC49B%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E5C688F1-2D0E-435F-89DC-B82BF0AE3A6D%40swbell.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E62AC55A-9163-4412-A161-F46DF248EA38%40gmail.com.
Re: Clicking links embedded in iOS text messages
I wonder if it matters that the person sending the message is not using an Apple device. Of course it’s impossible to know in many cases whether an Apple device is being used. The links are coming from organizations, so who knows what device they used? Still, more often than not, way more often than not, it doesn’t work. I’m shocked when it does. It used to be quite reliable. But that was a couple of years ago or so. Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > I have had no problem accessing links in iMessages. > In my experience, this works as it has always worked for as long as I can > remember. > > - Brad - > > > > > On May 5, 2022, at 12:30, Mary Otten wrote: > > This used to work reliably. It’s been broken for quite some time, and yes I > have reported it. Occasionally it works. Mostly it does not. Even when I’m > right on the text that says “link“, when I turn my rotor to links and flick > up or down, nothing. I don’t know why, but mostly it’s a Knogo. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 5, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: >> >> Set your rotor to Links, and then swipe up or down as appropriate. This >> should place focus on the link, where you can do a one finger double tap to >> execute the link. >> >> HTH. >> >> - Brad - >> >> On May 5, 2022, at 11:13, Phil Halton wrote: >> >> How does one go about interacting with links that are embedded in text >> messages in the iOS message app? I don’t use a lot of texting, but >> occasionally I need to click a link in a message that was sent to me and for >> the life of me I can’t find any way of clicking that link. It is reported by >> voiceover as a link, but there is no links in the rotor and if I navigate to >> it by word and land on it and try to click that doesn’t even work. >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/69E69C65-6A51-416A-871E-58593DECC49B%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E5C688F1-2D0E-435F-89DC-B82BF0AE3A6D%40swbell.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at:
Re: Facebook escalates feud with Apple over iOS privacy changes, cNet
I couldn’t agree more. Facebook‘s actions over the past few years have proven that it is a bad actor. Zuckerberg should go. And I’m all for Apple in this one. I value my privacy. I would never trust Facebook. I signed out of them a couple or three years ago and will never go back. I don’t need them and we don’t need them. Kill Facebook. It has been an evil actor. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > > In my honest opinion, Facebook is one of the worst privacy violating > companies in the world, if not the most, and will use any excuse to prop up > its interest. The very fact that it uses crawlers across the web to check > wherever you're surfing in itself is a privacy vilation. I just don't use > facebook, simple as that. Life is much better without it. Why spend time > looking at other people's activities when life is short, and there is so much > cool stuff going on outside of this jar of vitriol, back patting and > agonising self reflection posts? > > Do yourselves a favour and get out of the matrix, before you become a pigeon > eating out of the hands of society's good willed but ultimately useless > cheers, likes and 4 word comments that mean absolutely nada to your lives, > except for Facebook who harvests the information and makes money off of you. > > Apple, on the other hand, is quite direct at their approach: we make hardware > with verticality, and our stuff works for you. It's a square deal, our > hardware is more expensive, but we will do everything to make sure it works > well, and protects your right to privacy, and not have some Zucker borg or > some Bill gates or other dip shit geeks with world domination pipe dreams > peering into your window all the time. > > Just my take as a world travelling, 7 language speaking, award winning, don't > give a shit about the politics and gives his time and resources to advance > accessibility guy. > > Have a great weekend, > > Yuma > > > >> On 17 Dec 2020, at 2:46 pm, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Facebook escalates feud with Apple over iOS privacy changes >> The social network says changes in Apple's mobile software will hurt small >> businesses. >> Dec. 16, 2020 >> By Angela Lang, cNet. >> >> Facebook is again criticizing upcoming privacy changes to Apple's iOS that >> could uproot ad-tracking features used by apps. The social network on >> Wednesday ran full-page newspaper ads saying the feature in iOS 14, expected >> to be released early next year, will hurt small businesses. The company also >> expanded on its position in a blog post, saying that Apple's new policy is >> "more about profit than privacy." >> >> Apple announced several new privacy updates for iOS at its Worldwide >> Developers Conference earlier this year, including a feature called App >> Tracking Transparency that would require people to opt in to apps collecting >> their data rather than needing them to opt out. The update threatens to >> uproot several ad-tracking features in apps, including Facebook. In >> September, Apple decided to delay the feature's rollout to 2021 so >> developers could have more time to make necessary changes. >> >> Facebook's criticism of Apple is the latest in an ongoing public fight >> between two of the world's largest tech companies. The social network, which >> has also been under fire for failing to safeguard user privacy, views >> Apple's changes as an attack on personalized advertising. Facebook makes >> most of its money from ads, which allows it to avoid charging people a >> subscription fee to use the social network. >> >> Facebook has previously said the iOS update would mean less profit for >> advertisers because of less effective tracking. In the ads on Wednesday, >> Facebook says: "While limiting how personalized ads can be used does impact >> larger companies like us, these changes will be devastating to small >> businesses." >> >> Apple has defended the tracking changes, saying they give users more >> control. In a public letter last month, Jane Horvath, the company's privacy >> chief, called out Facebook for its data collection practices and said Apple >> remains "fully committed" to its app tracking transparency feature and other >> privacy protections. >> "Facebook executives have made clear their intent is to collect as much data >> as possible across both first and third party products to develop and >> monetize detailed profiles of their users, and this disregard for user >> privacy continues to expand to include more of their products," Horvath >> wrote. >> >> Dan Levy, who oversees ads and business products, said in a press call on >> Wednesday that Apple was "behaving anti-competitively by using their control >> of the App Store to benefit their bottom line at the expense of creators and >> small businesses." If services turn away from ads and start charging a >> subscription fee or in-app payments, Apple benefits because the company >> makes money from fe
Unable to back up iPhone, because “some files are not available“
I’m sending this on behalf of a friend. He has been unable to back up his phone since December of last year. When he tries, he gets a message back that says that some files are not available. And then the whole back up aborts. This is using iCloud. He has emptied his abs switcher and restarted his phone all to no avail. It’s plugged in and on Wi-Fi. No luck. Any ideas? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1454BE1F-DCA5-4353-BB65-8653D7B54B18%40gmail.com.
Re: Unable to back up iPhone, because “some files are not available“
Thanks for the suggestions. I doubt his iCloud is full, because it seems to me that when my iCloud was almost full, I got a message. And he hasn’t had any such messages. He also doesn’t have a Mac, which is where I ran into trouble with the iCloud in the 50 GB plan. Anyway, I’m forwarding all suggestions. Thanks. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:03 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > > Mary, > Is his iCloud full? > What about logging out of iCloud and back in. > If all else fails, contact Apple support. > > HTH > Chris > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/55FED988-13AA-4286-AE9C-2526E2D17668%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5114F3A4-F1DD-4E29-8EE6-BE3743A82C20%40gmail.com.
Re: Most recent book about Zoom from the perspective of a visually-impaired User?
Hi Mike, It may be that the book you are looking for is part of the “take control“ series. Take control of zoom. It’s not written specifically from a blindness perspective. However, people who use this series say it is very well done and is good for voiceover users. So I think that might be the one you have in mind. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > > Hello. > > After having listened to Jonathan Mosen’s excellent Zoom tutorial, I > immediately became enamored of the Zoom service. I subsequently learned > about a book on Zoom accessibility that only recently appeared. > Unfortunately, I misplaced the information and, despite googling the subject, > I have struck out. If not too much trouble, could someone please send me the > book information and where it can be purchased? > > Thanks in advance, > > Mike > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F7D77C4D-D67F-46EE-A6F2-133D86D9737D%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6CE10602-304A-44C5-9476-70016170943F%40gmail.com.
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for the sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good as speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I guess maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really screwed it up! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. > Cheers, > Donna > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon >> but . >> >> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to >> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the >> sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon >> Echo devices. >> >> Mark >> >> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA >> Today >> >> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on >> HomePod mini >> >> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first releasing >> the smart speaker. >> >> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on its >> new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. >> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be available >> while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and >> Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by >> TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." >> >> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for >> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's website >> with the mini available for $99. >> >> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original >> HomePod, first priced at $349, but dogged by complaints that the speaker did >> little more than just play music. It was dwarfed by sales of Amazon's Echo, >> the No. 1 best-selling smart speaker, and what was originally called the >> Google Home. >> >> The new HomePod mini can access apps on the iPhone using Siri, such as >> calendar, messages, or Music. The speaker also features an intercom and the >> ability to send messages from HomePod Mini to any Apple device, even >> AirPods. >> >> The smart speaker incorporates computational audio, which applies tuning >> models to bolster its sound. When announcing the new speaker in November, >> Apple said it would add a feature recognizing when your iPhone is near so >> music can easily transfer from playing on iPhone to HomePod mini and trigger >> visual and haptic responses on the phone. >> >> In January, Apple posted record revenue of $111.4 billion during its 2021 >> fiscal first quarter, a 21% increase from the same period a year ago. >> >> The company reported selling more iPhones and iPads, and hit a new revenue >> high from its services, such as Apple TV+, from October through December >> 2020, as consumers got new devices and used them more during the coronavirus >> pandemic. >> >> Contributing: Mike Snider, Brett Molina and Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY >> >> Original Article at: >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2021/03/13/homepod-discontinued-app >> le-focusing-efforts-homepod-mini/468041/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000301d71935%2469744e70%243c5ceb50%24%40edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rath
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Hi Donna, I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. Apple screwed up. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, Mary, > > I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. lol > That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not that > any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling of > privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the > Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. > > I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that > can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the exercise > room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound quality so > it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main living spaces of > the house. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with >> the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They >> really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no way >> I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods for the >> sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good as >> speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I guess >> maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really screwed it up! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the mini. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:52 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> Well, I knew this day would come. I did not think it would happen so soon >>>> but . >>>> >>>> Since purchasing my original HomePod, all I have asked Apple to do was to >>>> add a device-specific equalizer so as to allow listeners to customize the >>>> sounds balance. This feature has long since been available on the Amazon >>>> Echo devices. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA >>>> Today >>>> >>>> Apple to discontinue original HomePod and says it will focus efforts on >>>> HomePod mini >>>> >>>> Apple will discontinue its original HomePod four years after first >>>> releasing >>>> the smart speaker. >>>> >>>> The Cupertino, California-based tech giant says it will instead focus on >>>> its >>>> new and smaller HomePod mini, which went on sale in November for $99. >>>> "We are discontinuing the original HomePod, it will continue to be >>>> available >>>> while supplies last through the Apple Online Store, Apple Retail Stores and >>>> Apple Authorized Resellers," Apple said in a statement, reported by >>>> TechCrunch. "We are focusing our efforts on HomePod mini." >>>> >>>> Apple didn't immediately respond Saturday to USA TODAY's request for >>>> comment. As of Saturday, the HomePod was selling for $299 on Apple's >>>> website >>>> with the mini available for $99. >>>> >>>> Apple first entered the smart speaker market in 2018 with the original >>>> HomePod, first price
Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today
Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? And even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on the watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and totally lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I totally agree with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me in order to play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a service with which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice speakers in my opinion. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at > least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every > station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart. You > might give that another try. > > I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I > mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of > the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by > creating playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're > right, that shouldn't be necessary. > > All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those > issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Donna, >> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think >> Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind >> privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. >> Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play >> reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among >> music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google >> certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean >> really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still >> sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one >> of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my >> nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The >> performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. >> Apple screwed up. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Mary, >>> >>> I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. >>> lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not >>> that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling >>> of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the >>> Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does. >>> >>> I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite Siris that >>> can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the >>> exercise room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound >>> quality so it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main >>> living spaces of the house. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with >>>> the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They >>>> really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no >>>> way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods >>>> for the sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good >>>> as speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I >>>> guess maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really >>>> screwed it up! >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 14, 2021,
Re: Apple Music or other provider
As somebody else already said, that decision is up to you, based on your usage and whether you’re happy with the service. You can save some money if you get a yearly subscription. I believe the cost for that is $100, or $99.99. That means that you would be saving about $20 over the monthly price. I like Apple Music. Others like Spotify. If you have AirPods Pro or AirPods Max, he would be able to take advantage of spatial audio, which I think is kind of cool. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2021, at 6:50 AM, Rebecca Sabo wrote: > > Hi all > I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it when I got my iPad. My > free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and > your subscription? Thanks > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Ronald, > > You’re most welcome. Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or > AirPlay 2 protocol would be a great solution. It would be interesting if > Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in > the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s. This would > make things extremely easy in my opinion. I know that Spotify is available > on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole > Apple TV connection may not be needed. > > Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and > disadvantages to both devices. Of course, it likely depends on your use > case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors. > Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and > drawbacks of each. > > https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ > > Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own > biases. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it! >> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio >> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit >> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. >> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because >> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all. >> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I >> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that. >> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the >> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet. >> >> Anyways, thanks again. >> >> Ronald >> >> >> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver. If >>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is >>> in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the >>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth. The Apple TV 4K is >>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played >>> via the Siri remote for the Apple TV. As long as the receiver has HDMI >>> input, you’re good to go. There’s no need to connect a TV for the video >>> when playing music. There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for >>> the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote. >>> >>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and >>> outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then >>> you’ll need to confirm. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote: Hi Tim, Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method. Ronald > Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > het volgende geschreven: > > Hi Ronald, > > According to this post: > > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 > > Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some > reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be > lossless by the time it reaches your receiver. > > The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an >>>
Re: How to Best Access PDF Files
Hi Tim, related to accessing PDFs on a Mac, using the PDF pen that you mentioned, can you efficiently and successfully navigate tables and click on links that take you to websites or elsewhere within a PDF document? I am not using a Mac presently. One of the reasons I reluctantly went to windows 10 was because I was unable to find an efficient way of dealing with these kinds of PDF files. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:37 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, Adobe is a subscription model. There’s both PDFPen and PDFPen Pro. > PEFPen is not as feature full, but has the OCR, is very accessible and a > really good package. No, neither are free, but the Pro version is more > expensive and probably has more features than you might need. There are > likely other packages out there to do the job, but this package has worked > well for me. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> I did a search for a PDF pen but could not find it. I found PDF pen Pro but >> I don’t think I want that one. I just need something they can extract text >> and $80 doesn’t seem like a good idea for that. Can you suggest we are PDF >> and maybe located? I hope they still offer it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 2, 2021, at 12:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, acrobat is accessible, although I do find it rather cumbersome to >>> maneuver through. PDFPen or PDFPen Pro are much more voiceover friendly and >>> that's much easier to use. Neither are free though. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Jul 2, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Hi Tim, Yes, I did enable recognition. It read some gibberish, very little, though. I take it Acrobat works on the Mac? On my Windows machine, I have the Reader, and I used fJaws to extract text. If I recall, Acrobat Pro was a subscription service, but I could be mistaken. PDF Pen is a program I am not familiar with, but I’ll check it out. Thanks. Best Regards, Les > On Jul 2, 2021, at 11:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Did you make sure that VoiceOver Recognition was enabled within the VO > Utility? If that is enabled, you should, at least, get VoiceOver to > announce that it is a document with text on it. Otherwise, apps like > Acrobat DC or PDFPen can do the OCR for you. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Jul 2, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> I followed your instructions. When I invoked the text recognition >> command, it reported no image description available. Was the Full N an >> app? Does this mean I can perform OCR on a pdf as can be done with >> Acrobat? Actually, in Windows, I used the Jaws facility to extract text >> that was identified as an empty document. My work space may not >> accommodate a scanner, so I would like to use software in these >> instances. Thanks. >> Best, >> >> Les >> >>> On Jul 1, 2021, at 4:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Normally, you navigate to the Document area, interact with it, then if >>> it has multiple pages, they will be listed. Interact with the page you >>> wish to read and the text will be read by VO. If it requires OCR, you >>> can try pressing VO-shift-l to see if VO will read it to you. If >>> VO-shift-l does not work, first make sure that VoiceOver Recognition is >>> enabled in the VoiceOver Utility, then try again. If it still doesn’t >>> work for you, you may need to use full on OCR like in Acrobat DC. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> On Jul 1, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi All, I just received my first pdf file. I loaded it into Preview, but could not figure out how to access the text. Also, if it is an image, is there a way I can perform OCR on it without attaching a scanner? Is there a version of Acrobat Reader for the Mac which is worth accessing? Thank you. Best, Les -- The following information is important for al
New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur
In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely nothing about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s not unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t announce. I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, and if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event regarding voiceover accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus bug and email would be my number one, and that’s not a new problem. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/007A8C49-8A74-4E2C-BC84-C414D7AA60FC%40gmail.com.
Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur
Hi Devon, quite honestly, if this isn’t coming from Apple, it’s not worth very much. So, before I go messing around with the recommended sites, is this from actual slides in the presentation? Or is this just wishful thinking from someone in which case, it’s not worth very much. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:06 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > See this page: iOS features > > Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for > braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always > another secret.” Or something. > Devin Prater > d.pra...@me.com > Https://devinprater.github.io > >> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely >> nothing about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s >> not unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t >> announce. I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech >> articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, >> and if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event regarding >> voiceover accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus >> bug and email would be my number one, and that’s not a new problem. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/007A8C49-8A74-4E2C-BC84-C414D7AA60FC%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BC2D5D23-7A38-4060-B26C-B54EA7F785CE%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2F46C494-D135-4339-BA79-694541AA800E%40gmail.com.
Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur
Hi Devon, So what is the source of this stuff, I mean where did this guy get it? Was it from the presentation? That’s all I wanted to know, since it’s not an Apple site. Thanks. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2020, at 7:20 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Okay, fine. I’ll copy and paste from the accessibility section of the page I > linked to: > > Accessibility > > VoiceOver Recognition > On-device intelligence recognizes key elements displayed on your screen to > add VoiceOver support for app and web experiences that don’t have > accessibility support built in. > VoiceOver Recognition: Image descriptions > VoiceOver reads complete-sentence descriptions of images and photos within > apps and on the web. > VoiceOver Recognition: Text recognition > VoiceOver speaks the text it identifies within images and photos. > VoiceOver Recognition: Screen recognition > VoiceOver automatically detects interface controls to aid in navigating your > apps, making them more accessible. > Headphone Accommodations > This new accessibility feature is designed to amplify soft sounds and adjust > certain frequencies for an individual’s hearing, to help music, movies, phone > calls, and podcasts sound more crisp and clear.10 Headphone Accommodations > also supports Transparency mode on AirPods Pro, making quiet voices more > audible and tuning the sounds of your environment to your hearing needs. > > Devin Prater > d.pra...@me.com > Https://devinprater.github.io > >> On Jun 22, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Devon, quite honestly, if this isn’t coming from Apple, it’s not worth >> very much. So, before I go messing around with the recommended sites, is >> this from actual slides in the presentation? Or is this just wishful >> thinking from someone in which case, it’s not worth very much. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:06 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> See this page: iOS features >>> >>> Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for >>> braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always >>> another secret.” Or something. >>> Devin Prater >>> d.pra...@me.com >>> Https://devinprater.github.io >>> >>>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely >>>> nothing about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. >>>> That’s not unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they >>>> don’t announce. I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the >>>> tech articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted >>>> person, and if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event >>>> regarding voiceover accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. >>>> Fix the focus bug and email would be my number one, and that’s not a new >>>> problem. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/007A8C49-8A74-4E2C-BC84-C414D7AA60FC%40gmail.com. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Re: New for voiceover and iOS 14 and Mac operating system big sur
OK, Devon, I’m sorry. I just went to your link. And I see that it is an Apple site. That wasn’t clear to me from your first posting, which when I read it, made me think it was coming from somebody on Twitter. Anyway, thanks for the post. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:06 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > See this page: iOS features > > Legends on Twitter tell of enormous Investiture, like AutoMagic panning for > braille displays, and even more to come. Like Kelsier says, “There’s always > another secret.” Or something. > Devin Prater > d.pra...@me.com > Https://devinprater.github.io > >> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> In all the coverage of the online event today, I have seen absolutely >> nothing about anything new for Accessibility, voiceover or otherwise. That’s >> not unusual. But sometimes they show stuff on the slides that they don’t >> announce. I haven’t seen anything about Accessibility and any of the tech >> articles I have read. I wonder if anybody saw this with a sighted person, >> and if anyone knows of anything publicly shown at the event regarding >> voiceover accessibility. I can certainly think of some things. Fix the focus >> bug and email would be my number one, and that’s not a new problem. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/007A8C49-8A74-4E2C-BC84-C414D7AA60FC%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BC2D5D23-7A38-4060-B26C-B54EA7F785CE%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/24F5081F-E463-408F-9909-77BB6BA6A904%40gmail.com.
Re: Mantis Q40?
Hi Donna, I have not use this display, but if you are interested, there is a mailing list dedicated to both it and the Chamaeleon, the 20cell variant that has a braille keyboard rather than a quirky one. You can also see the manual on the APH mantis dedicated page. If you’re interested in the email list, info on that is also on the APH page. There is active tech support there. like you, I have heard very bad things about the orbit reader Forty, and I don’t think it’s even out yet. But one of the folks who has been a distributor for them said this thing is not ready for prime time at a recent blindness convention. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2020, at 12:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Has anyone tried this display with either Mac or IOS? Seems new. It's sold > by APH, but seems to have some affiliation with Humanware as well. > TIA, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0BD592A2-31EA-4825-BC8F-E1522E0E210D%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BD23F6AC-8DFB-4BC7-8F10-B7EC0A86AA0A%40gmail.com.
Re: Focus 40 Braille display
Hi Donna, Good luck with the cube rail. I had one as a demo right after it came out, and the software was bad. It really didn’t work with voiceover, which was a massive problem for me. I understand it is much better now. It’s still just seems kind of clunky, the way you interact with it in terms of changing between the various modes. But that could’ve just been me. You might love it. I just would really prefer qwerty input. I rather like the feel of humanware displays, not the 14, but the older ones. So maybe the mantis will be good. They just came out with some firmware that fixed some of the bugs. But I’m sure there are more. It’s a new device. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2020, at 1:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Ah, got it. Thanks for the clarification. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:38 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Donna. >> >> I never said it was difficult to pair the display on a Mac, I’m just >> saying that the commands are very difficult to use i.e. they’re not as >> simple as iOS. That is how I see it at the moment. >> On 5 Aug 2020, at 8:08 pm, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Kawal. Glad to hear that the scratchpad issue was resolved. >>> >>> Do others have the same difficulty pairing your Focus with your Mac? That >>> would be a deal breaker for me. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 1:53 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Donna. Focus works just fine on the Scratch Pad now. There was a recent update. I still can’t use Braille on the Mac and have tried. Works great on the I Phone. Kawal. >> On 5 Aug 2020, at 19:44, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: > > Hi all, > > My VU is having what I suspect is a hardware issue, so in preparation for > the day when it gives up the ghost, I'm again researching braille > displays. > > Though I'm not enthusiastic about it, it seems like the best second > choice--given that I lack the $$ for an ActiveBraille--is going to be the > Focus 40. Two questions: > 1. Does it pair easily and work well with Mac and IOS? > 2. I remember someone mentioning a crazy limitation of the scratch pad, > something ridiculous like not being able to save files. What are the > limitations of Scratchpad that people have found? I don't do a lot of > writing on the display these days, mostly I write on my phone or my iPad > but I would like the Word processor to be functional for those times when > I do need to jot something down. > TIA, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B1B4B995-CA70-4B03-8FA1-BA2D2B50973B%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/582A7335-0FBB-4603-A8AB-FEFBBE92BF35%40icloud.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the M
Re: Mark on iOS14, iPadOS14, and Scene Descriptions
There is some kind of feature in iOS 14 which will speed up having the “use passcode“, if you’re on a phone that has only Face ID. So there is not going to be touch ID on the iPhone 12 I am extremely sure. They put this new feature in 14 to try to help with the mask situation. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:23 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well I hope the 12 has a Touch ID as I can’t use Face ID when I have to use > a mask. I bet Apple will put it on there and there excuse will be due to > wearing masks. > > Kawal. > >> On 18 Sep 2020, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Anders, >> >> I am not noticing any keyboard sluggishness. >> Best, >> Donna >> >> On Sep 18, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Anders holmberg wrote: >>> >>> Hello Mark! Hope you are doing well. It would be so nice to have a zoom >>> meeting depending on what time morning is in Swedish time. One thing I am >>> curious about is if you guys feel that the keyboard is more sluggish with >>> Siri voices? Not much but a bit sluggish. With the Swedish one the keyboard >>> is quite sluggish so I have to use the nuance voice is a lot which I really >>> don't like as they are having some kind of glitch when it speaks. There is >>> a small crack sometimes when it starts talking. Otherwise I don't have any >>> problems with The new update. Maybe the screen recognition but that's been >>> there since the data came out. >>> 18 sep. 2020 kl. 18:02 skrev M. Taylor : Hello Family, 1. I installed iPad OS 14 on my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 tablet. Several of the new features of iPad OS 14 are not available on this model. However, the VoiceOver Scene Description feature is available, albeit a scaled-down version, and was set to on, by default. This feature drove me crazy because it kept saying something like "triangle or diagonal" almost all the time when viewing items in a list. It took me what seemed like forever to find where this feature was located in the OS. I found the setting under VoiceOver Verbosity. I turned the feature to off but doing so did not disable the feature until after a restart of the device. 2. I installed iOS14 on an iPhone 11. Strangely enough, all of the scene descriptions were set to off, by default. 3. My primary device is my beloved iPhone 8 Plus. The 8 Plus has been on the market for quite a while and, as happens to all devices, sooner or later, installing the latest OS begins to slow down the responsiveness of the phone. So, I am not going to install iOS14 on my 8 Plus until after hearing from various people on this list, that doing so will not cause my 8 Plus to slow down. I am also not going to install 14 on my 8 Plus because I am planning on purchasing an iPhone 12 when it is released; assuming that it ships with a Touch ID sensor, as I strongly suspect that it will. If the iPhone 12 does not include a Touch ID sensor, then I will try to hold out for another year in hopes that Apple will bring the hardware feature back on a later model. 4. Finally, my beloved Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus has an in-display Touch ID sensor / Home button. I am hoping that Apple will include the same or similar feature on iPhone 12. However, given the way that they have implemented the new Touch ID on its latest releases of iPAds, all bets are off. Just have to wait and see. 5. I would like to host another Zoom group discussion this Sunday so we can talk about all of the new Apple software and hardware features and devices. If I can manage it, I will send out a notice early Sunday morning. I hope you are all doing well. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000901d68dd5%2405c38b20%24114aa160%24%40edu. >>> >>> -- >>> The f
Re: strange email behavior on my iPad
Hi Donna, I have no clue about your iPad, but me.com these days it’s just aliased to iCloud.com. So why not just go for iCloud.com, since it’s the same thing? I mean it goes the same place Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2020, at 12:43 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > As of today, when I try to email the list, the message seems to be being sent > via my iCloud.com address, rather than my me.com address. This despite the > fact that my me.com addie is the one displayed in the from Tab. I literally > couldn't get my last message to send from my iPad, i had to get on my Mac to > send it. Does anyone know how I might fix this? > TIA, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F15158D8-762E-42AD-8DBC-6B83116D8D6D%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/086C7194-B783-4BE6-A1F6-82918F7C3B57%40gmail.com.
Re: IOS 14 and Swiping Around Screen
You’ve never had a bug in android? That’s really hard to believe, since it’s an operating system, and I happen to see from time to time bugs reported in the main stream press, just like they are with Apple. So I find it hard to believe that you’ve never seen a bug in android or Samsung for that matter. Those get reported to. Remember the exploding phones? Oh that was hardware. Still, bugs exist Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Robin wrote: > > Glad that I Decided Not to UpDate to Apple's iOS14, & I have Never > encountered any Bugs or Flaws in the Software either Samsung's 1UI or > Google'sAndroid > At 09:36 AM 9/21/2020, you wrote: >> Hello Jeff, >> >> Well, I installed iPad OS 14 last week and, last night, finally ran into the >> VoiceOver focus bug, as you described it. >> >> Wow! What a mess. It happened when I open the OverDrive app. Wow! What a >> mess!!! >> >> So far, I have not found any kind of workaround for this problem. The focus >> problem does not rear its ugly head on all of the screens but on, of course, >> the most crucial ones in the app. >> >> I am so glad I did not put iOS14 on my beloved 8 Plus. Had I done so, I >> would be going crazy and, no doubt, doing my best to downgrade back to 13.7. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 3:52 PM >> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: IOS 14 and Swiping Around Screen >> >> Hi all, >> >> I updated to IOS 14 earlier today and I’m finding that, when trying to >> swipe right around the screen, the Voiceover curser jumps around and goes >> back to the top of the screen. >> >> Is anybody else experiencing this and, if so, do you have a work-around? >> >> Thx, >> Jeff >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B90FD128-B5BE-46C8-AB24-E9D3123B9B2A%40berwick.name. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/001801d69035%2467781e00%2436685a00%24%40edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7.0.1.0.2.20200921163421.1afb1b10%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Re: Older iOS Devices Disenfranchised by VO in iOS 14
Are you probably don’t have the back tap on your iPod touch. I know I don’t have it on my iPhone 7 Plus. As for the neat new recognition features, I think they’re more of a pain than a neat thing. I’ve turned them off. I haven’t found anything useful about them. All they do is add extra verbiage where I don’t want it, and when I do want it, or something really is an accessible, crickets. I think it’s definitely a work in progress that should’ve been held out until next time. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2020, at 8:59 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I did not test iOS 14 this time, and have just now bitten the bullet and > upgraded my iPod Touch 5th gen, which is just over a year old, to iOS 14.0.1 > release. I now see that, as reported, this device loses out on the neat new > VO recognition features (but not, curiously, the sound recognition tech for > the hearing-impaired). > > What else have older devices lost, compared to newer ones, in VO? I cannot > pretend to be pleased about this, but at least my iPhone 11 Pro Max is fine. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/ED636FE1-8AC6-41BB-AC35-172F6DA6DAF4%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4EDEFC9A-D35C-4167-AB05-C6CB54AA0ADF%40gmail.com.
Re: Older iOS Devices Disenfranchised by VO in iOS 14
I had high hopes for this feature, and so when I got it on my iPhone 10 R, I activated it for an app that used to be lovely and accessible and turn totally useless with lots of things that just said button with no labor. And voiceover didn’t do anything. The app is in Russian, but I have a Russian voice on my phone, and it reads text just fine. So, it didn’t work well at all. That’s the only one I have that has major accessibility issues. And it was a bust. I’ve certainly seen others that weren’t accessible, but I just deleted them. I kind of wonder for the longer-term prospect, whether or not they are going to be able to make some of the stuff on their game service accessible. I’m not a gamer much, but I know plenty of blind people who are and who would do it more if there were more accessible games. Plus it would make more money for Apple, which is their goal of course. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2020, at 10:19 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, to be fair I have found screen recognition to be especially helpful in > one specific app, the GlocalMe app, which was only partially accessible > beforehand, though really only to the extent of making a single element > containing multiple elements accessible so that they can now be independently > accessed without having to turn off VO and guess where you think the elements > are to tap before restarting VO to discover if it worked or not, a stupidly > frustrating process made necessary in the first place by a pointless update > to the UI that broke what was a mediocre but usable app, but which was not > actually impossible to workaround, just annoying. But, you’re right that it’s > really, really shaky, and the real trick lies in having recognition only when > you absolutely need it, and turning it off the rest of the time, which > happily is easy to do in the rotor. Of course, anywhere my GlocalMe goes, > I'll have my iPhone, so this example is moot. I'll be interested to see if > any other apps benefit--games with text-based content, for example. The cynic > in me thinks that these features mostly serve as an excuse for Apple not to > use its curation powers in the App Store to offer proper accessibility > ratings and testing, which is of course the real fix. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D352E38E-50EB-4EAF-B093-9ED4F3775512%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/67CBD87F-BE75-40AD-ADE4-18DFAD0399E7%40gmail.com.
Re: Follow-up on the Mantis
The 20 cell version has braille input rather than typing. A dealbreaker for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > THey should have a 20 cell version. > /A > >> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 20:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> It's really nice having a qwerty keyboard with a braille display. If that's >> of interest, and you don't care about limitations in the Editor, it'd be >> worth checking into. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> It might be something for me then. >>> Depends on the cost of the device. >>> We don’t have it here in Sweden but it might be possible to buy from >>> Humanware and then get it delivered to Sweden. >>> Thanks anyway for reporting your issue. >>> /A >>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 15:46 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries : Hi all, Since we’ve had some discussions about braille displays, I thought I’d share the outcome of my time with the Mantis. I’ve had my Mantis for a couple of days now, and unfortunately, it looks like I’ll be returning it. I wanted to share why with the list, because I thought that the issue I have may also be an issue for some of you. First let me say that it’s a really nice device. It’s light-weight, the keyboard is very comfortable to type on, and the way the device functions is very well thought-out. It is very easy to pair with an i-device - I’m actually typing on it as I write this message. So, if my issue isn’t an issue for you, I recommend it. Unfortunately, the Mantis has what for me is a fatal flaw. Humanware implemented a feature in the Mantis that they implement in their other notetakers, namely that there is a separate reader for BRF files, and a separate word-processor where you can actually edit text. I’ve always thought this was dumb, but I figured I’d just ignore the reader and use the editor. But when I got my Mantis, I was saddened to learn that there’s a limit to the file size in the Editor, so it is not possible to open books there. Since I often read and edit simultaneously, this is a deal breaker for me. I have no idea whether there are plans to address this in a future update, but I personally don't want to buy a device in the hope that a feature I need will be implemented some day. Again, this is a nice device, so if you don’t care about this limitation, by all means consider it. But I thought I’d save those of you who do care about it the trouble of ordering and then having to return the device. Cheers, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/836C1F90-3A1C-492E-8741-032343E1A953%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F6877CF1-A5C0-4DB0-8F03-FCF12BA522C5%40pipkrokodil.se. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have
Re: Youtube music, Apple Music, Spotify.
I also use Apple Music, because I like the high quality at no extra cost, the ease of use with Siri, the fact that I have HomePods and iOS devices etc. I also had it linked to my Amazon, although that went out a little while back and I haven’t tried it since. I did have Amazon music, but I dropped it, because it never got linked up with my HomePods so never mind. I have YouTube premium but not for the music, just for the fact that I don’t have to see ads ever. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2022, at 1:59 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote: > > Hello, > > how do you use service for listening to music and why? > I am talking about the services in a subject. > > Thank you. > > Best regard. > > Tibor Niesner > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FF54A526-81B3-4F6C-8AD0-B4DC6AF0F485%40seznam.cz. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/397622E3-9F4C-4153-8949-3FC5CFD04094%40gmail.com.
Re: Displaying actual activity numbers in Watch 9?
I have an updated yet, because I’m still running iOS 15 on my phone. My watch face is the info graph, which I like because it has eight complications. Has anybody tried that one? Does it give percentages or numbers? I will not upgrade if it doesn’t give numbers. Too bad, but I really like numbers. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > In watch the activity widget on my Meridian face only provides percentage, > but on the Cronograph Pro face I get percentages and actual values. > I can't help beyond that. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B6554EA2-D5CF-4D2A-92A6-64F1166EDB86%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A7D0A641-04C1-4E11-AE62-7CC4DBD09B11%40gmail.com.
Re: Displaying actual activity numbers in Watch 9?
Hi Donna, Did you mean the info graph face? The one with 8complications? Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:04 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > Yes, the chronograph face does give you numbers. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Sep 13, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I have an updated yet, because I’m still running iOS 15 on my phone. My >> watch face is the info graph, which I like because it has eight >> complications. Has anybody tried that one? Does it give percentages or >> numbers? I will not upgrade if it doesn’t give numbers. Too bad, but I >> really like numbers. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>> >>> In watch the activity widget on my Meridian face only provides percentage, >>> but on the Cronograph Pro face I get percentages and actual values. >>> I can't help beyond that. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B6554EA2-D5CF-4D2A-92A6-64F1166EDB86%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A7D0A641-04C1-4E11-AE62-7CC4DBD09B11%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CEA72D00-2D04-4CE7-B78F-4AE5D1EDCCBE%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/EE1ADCCB-B6A4-4A47-B013-787E3D98D731%40gmail.com.
Re: Displaying actual activity numbers in Watch 9?
Well, here’s hoping it’s got numbers. I will have to take a chance and upgrade my phone if it does, because I’m interested in the extra workout features. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2022, at 7:46 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Yes. > Donna > >> On Sep 13, 2022, at 7:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Donna, >> Did you mean the info graph face? The one with 8complications? Thanks. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:04 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> Yes, the chronograph face does give you numbers. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> I have an updated yet, because I’m still running iOS 15 on my phone. My >>>> watch face is the info graph, which I like because it has eight >>>> complications. Has anybody tried that one? Does it give percentages or >>>> numbers? I will not upgrade if it doesn’t give numbers. Too bad, but I >>>> really like numbers. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In watch the activity widget on my Meridian face only provides >>>>> percentage, but on the Cronograph Pro face I get percentages and actual >>>>> values. >>>>> I can't help beyond that. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B6554EA2-D5CF-4D2A-92A6-64F1166EDB86%40gmail.com. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A7D0A641-04C1-4E11-AE62-7CC4DBD09B11%40gmail.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries lis
Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16
Hi Donna, I have not seen that problem. I have seen the problem where after I dictate a message and double tap to stop dictation, it doesn’t stop. Maybe it takes two or three taps for it to stop. But I haven’t seen what you’re describing, thank goodness! Mary. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2022, at 1:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Ever since iO s 16, I’ve been experiencing an issue in the Messages app. > When I go to tap the dictation button to end dictating a message, instead of > dictation stopping, the message is automatically sent. This is frustrating, > because it’s resulted in messages being sent before I was able to edit out > Siri’s errors. Is anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know if this is a > bug, or if I’m doing something wrong? I never had this problem before iOS 16. > Cheers, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D0EBA1D7-35FD-49E4-B40B-7404A6EC8885%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4BB50DE5-6E7C-424F-92B5-CDA4F9D49AC0%40gmail.com.
Re: ios 17 and two voiceOvers
Yes. I have the exact same problem with switching between Alex and Samantha. I can’t figure out when or why it happens. But when it does, it’s annoying, and as you say, voiceover becomes extremely sluggish. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > I have, mine loves to occasionally switch from Alex to Samantha then back > again. I just took it as Apple trying to temporarily patch the bug that’s > been a constant where Alex temporarily would stop speaking until it could be > fixed, but even if that is the case, I can’t stand the “cover it up” > mentality too many people have regarding anything, until it gets so bad > someone is forced to deal with it, and then is 10 times worse and even harder > to fix. > >> On Oct 12, 2023, at 10:15 AM, christopher moore wrote: >> >> Hello, >> Occasionally my iPhone switches from my standard VO voice to a siri voice. >> When this happens the screen navigation becomes sluggish. My normal voice >> eventually returns, but this behavior is extremely annoying. >> >> Anyone else had similar experiences? >> >> Chris >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FC6FC3E4-0842-423B-A5C3-897F656986A7%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0E1199AE-57B3-46CB-AD6D-828125E3083E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CEE59536-AEB7-42C1-99F0-7668E67CC454%40gmail.com.
Re: My review after spending two weeks with the Activator braille display
You can always hope that Google actually keeps its promise and supports the hid protocol which this device uses. Way too rich for my blood, but really Google. You were on board with the standard, but when push came to shove, you wouldn’t do it. Just another reason not to trust Google I guess. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2024, at 3:40 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > >> On 5/1/24 18:08, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> I can’t imagine switching to an Android phone, but you’re absolutely right. >> If one were to do that, the Activator would lose much of its luster. > > If you "can't imagine" it, then you're the right kind of customer for the > Activator. > > I can more than imagine switching to Android. I've been careful to avoid > "vendor lock-in" as much as I can. Facetime is the only application of note > that I would lose, and there are alternatives. Apple Music has an Android > version, so it wouldn't pose a problem. > > Due to Apple's hardware quality, good accessibility, and the policy of > supporting devices longer than most Android manufacturers do, I'm likely to > buy an iPhone again next time. However, I want to make that choice on its > merits when the need for a new device emerges. The apparently ongoing lack of > support by Android for the HID braille display standard, especially via > Bluetooth, is another substantial reason against choosing an Android option. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/73fab995-79fd-4ff5-ba59-499e46f9fae3%40jasonjgw.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F27BB1B7-3FB7-4008-80C7-4E505A6F498A%40gmail.com.
Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
I just got a pair of the open fit, and I purchased them from at guys, keep the money in the blind community when you can if the price is the same or very close, I say. I ordered them on the weekend and they came today. I live in Oregon, and I suspect they were shipped from somewhere back east, so decent turnaround, not that much different than Amazon, which prime does not always come in two days anymore. Mark, how did you find out about all this stuff? I’m assuming there is nothing accessible as far as documentation goes. Any hints about that would be great. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 7, 2024, at 6:54 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > A couple of days ago, I purchased a pair of the Open Run Pro bone conducting > Bluetooth headsets for use with my iPhone. > > I decided to buy a pair because I have a couple of friends who are using the > Open Run models and when talking to them, I cannot tell that they are using > a Bluetooth headset, the microphone quality is that good. > > I think they are absolutely amazing. > > What I did not discover until after purchasing is that, using the Shock app > for iOS, one can change the voice profile. Kind of an E.Q. feature that I > absolutely love. > > The cost of this model is approximately 180 USD. > > In fact, I was so impressed with the Open Run Pro model that, just 2 days > later, I purchased the Open Fit model. > > With the Open Fit, you do not only have 4 preset sound profiles, from which > to choose, but you also have a full equalizer feature. > > The approximate cost of the Open Fit model is 130 USD. > > There are several differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit > model. > 1. > The Open Run Pro is bone conduction. > > 2. > The Open Fit, while not sitting in the ear, uses sound waves to conduct the > sound. > > 3. > Like Air Pods, the Open Fit can be worn on one ear at a time or on both > ears. > > 4. > Unlike Air Pods, both the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit can switch between > Apple Watch and iPhone seamlessly as both models can connect to, two, > devices, simultaneously. > > You can purchase these models from Amazon or from Shock.com or, like me, > just go into your local Best Buy and grab a pair. > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000801da5a3a%24287f3800%24797da800%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/888242E8-F3E9-45CE-A839-E87F5F96FC39%40gmail.com.
Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?
I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Subject says it all, I’m considering one or both of these options. Would > love to know list members experiences, both good and bad. > Thanks, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2A66B936-652A-4B21-9EB7-D6D5455D753A%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/FFC6B6F5-1632-435A-9AFC-DA1EB714D6C3%40gmail.com.
Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?
Interesting. I have had legitimate purchases declined by my Apple Card. I get a notification immediately telling me this was declined, did you do it? And if I go click yes, then it goes through. I’ve never had them not catch something. So that was very interesting. I have had fraud on two other cards. Nothing to do with Apple or my phone or anything I did. The damned thieves probably got my number someway somewhere but not because I lost a card or saved a card on a website or whatever. I never ever save credit card information anywhere Except on braille cards that I keep. Nobody reads braille except blind people. Smile. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:41 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I > was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge > never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card. > Mary Ward > > On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe > this is a Chase bank issue. > > - Brad - > > On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences. Mary, the concerns you > raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you > mentioning them. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern >> I have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people >> were on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait >> for the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball. >> Mary Ward >> >> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Subject says it all, I’m considering one or both of these options. Would >> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad. >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2A66B936-652A-4B21-9EB7-D6D5455D753A%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DEE1D993-B313-4152-9CDA-3A832DDBE5E5%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >
Re: Rotor on iPhone
This has been a long-standing problem, and it doesn’t mean that the links aren’t in your rotor. It means that a lot of text messages have links that simply don’t show up as such. At least that’s been my experience. If I’m in a text message that acts like this where the rotor doesn’t move to a link, I can move to the link text using move by word. Once there, link is announced, but double tapping on it never ever Works. This has been going on at least since iOS 16 and I have reported it to no avail. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2024, at 10:51 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > While in a text message, I invoked the rotor to select Links. Something > happened and can no longer find Links. Checked in the rotor settings and > Links is still selected. How to fix this? Thanks. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/459375b2-de16-425a-b00b-c8b6a5121109%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2F53D35C-FF5B-4206-AD17-35CF55CD1A7D%40gmail.com.
Re: More on the HomePod from hell
So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with my big fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make equipment that connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, but what can you do? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to > continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I > can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the technology > that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods may not be > your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod mini, we had > no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think apples quality > control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just the latest example > of that, unfortunately. > Cheers, > Donna > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> Donna, >> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating. >> I also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what >> the Homepods provide for you. >> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure >> everything from scratch. >> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed. >> Karen >> >> >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> >>> First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the >>> problem. In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were >>> mentioned. Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing >>> other things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized >>> HomePod. >>> Donna >>> > On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen > wrote: Ah, an understandable reason. Thanks for sharing. Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not work though? Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are not sold in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip the process all together smiles. but hey I sill play my music on a stereo. > On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: > We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our primary > hub, and another in the family room. We decided that in the kitchen we > could do with just a mini, and that would allow us to move the kitchen > HomePod to the Family room and create a stereo pair. > Donna > >> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen >> wrote: >> >> ,Donna, >> I have a question. >> what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place? >> What in your current set up was no longer working to your satisfaction >> leading to your needing a new option? >> Just curious, especially given this latest chapter. >> Kare >> >> >> >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> >>> Hi again all, >>> >>> So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more >>> current software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder. >>> However, for reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, >>> instead of 17.4, which is what the rest of my Home is running. I have >>> my HomePods set to update automatically, so I figured I’d just set it >>> up, and it would update automatically overnight. But apparently that >>> was too much to hope for. Instead, it made a wreck of my home in the >>> Home app. I have devices that have had multiple names, as I have moved >>> them to different rooms. All those devices reverted back to an older >>> name. And none of my accessories, other than the HomePods are >>> responding. Does anyone have an idea what happened or thoughts on a >>> possible fix? I’d really love to avoid deleting my Home and setting it >>> up from scratch. >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Ma
Re: More on the HomePod from hell
Hi Donna, Well good for you keeping those speakers. I think I’ve heard of Sonos amps, and I imagine they’re pretty pricey. I still have my old Adcom power amp and a preamp that dates from Gali sometime in the 80s maybe. A long time ago. It sounds great. But there’s no Bluetooth or anything anywhere, hence the HomePods. Like you, I used to have a giant collection of albums and then CDs. The albums are gone as is my beloved B and O turntable, and I ripped all the CDs into whatever lossless codec was at the time back when I had a Mac. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 30, 2024, at 6:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I wish I knew for sure. I think some of my trouble was created by me. I had > the “clever” idea Thursday night that if I could pair it with my old iPhone > 7, which I still keep around as a music player, it wouldn’t connect to our > home, but should be able to connect to our wireless network. My hope was > that that would allow it to update, which would then allow me to reset it, > and set it up again using my iPhone 14 pro. But, and I don’t totally > understand this, when you reset a HomePod, it still holds on to some of your > settings. So when I connected it to my Mac, it downloaded software version > 17.2, which, though not the current version was current enough for it to > connect with our home. But, it still seemed to have had stuff from the > earlier pairing, so instead of updating, somehow it seems to have downgraded > our Home software, which meant that nothing worked. I do know that something > like that happened because after I finally got it to work yesterday, I was > prompted again to upgrade everything to the new home infrastructure. At that > point it was late, and I was tired, so I reset the HomePod and went to bed, > leaving the Mini unplugged overnight and all the next morning. When I > finally had time to get back to it, the setup worked. It got setup in our > home, and then immediately updated. > > By the way, re your stereo, we solved that problem by buying a Sonos amp. My > husband built a pair of speakers when he was in college, and to this day I > think they’re some of the best speakers I’ve heard. So, even though we > wanted to go to a wireless system, there was no way we were giving up those > speakers. I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, and > gives us the option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup. Just > thought I’d let you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest. 😊 > Cheers, > Donna >> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured >> out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that >> caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did >> you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the >> front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with >> my big fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make >> equipment that connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big >> bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, >> but what can you do? >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to >>> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I >>> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the >>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods >>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod >>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think >>> apples quality control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just >>> the latest example of that, unfortunately. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Donna, >>>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating. >>>> I also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what >>>> the Homepods provide for you. >>>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure >>>> everything from scratch. >>>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed. >>>> Karen >>>> >>
Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods
I have to agree with Donna about the HomePod. I have had Google nests, the mini ones, and overtime, Google Assistant is actually getting dumber. They’re taking longer and longer to respond and they often don’t have a clue. As for the Amazon devices, they’re OK too I suppose if you don’t mind questionable security. They’re good for SiriusXM which is mostly what I use them for and setting timers. But asking them for information is like the wild West. Siri has never been known for its great accuracy of information either, but it seems like Google and Amazon are getting dumber, a troubling trend. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 31, 2024, at 10:20 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Actually, the HomePod is a good product. The problem isn’t that the HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well, I think. We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly dropping out and needing to be reconnected or reset. I don’t have any of that with the HomePods. Also, I think Apple does a much better job of managing security than Amazon Alexa does.Cheers,DonnaOn Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons wrote:Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:Hi!I don’t want to get a HomePod.Not for this reason but I do not need it.However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.Bless./A29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries :Hi all,I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini. Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit.After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini, I found the following article. Buyer beware! Apparently Apple thinks it’s just fine to sell these things. I plan on returning mine, and will only buy another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it is running a more recent software version.Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data Protection Is Enabledmacrumors.comThe text of the article follows:To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2. However, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, there is a bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned on.This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2 won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini, users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking the Restore HomePod option. This will update the speaker to the latest software, after which it can be properly set up.The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod have no USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, which is expected to be released next week, owners of these speakers will have to temporarily turn off Advanced Data Protection to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines how to do that in the following way:Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn off Advanced Data Protection.If you received an error message when you previously tried to set up your HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod. Then set up your HomePod.Update your HomePod to the latest software using the Home app. Turn on Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In Settings or System Settings, tap your name, then tap iCloud. Scroll to Advanced Data Protection and turn on Advanced Data Protection.Apple advises anyone who temporarily turns off Advanced Data Protection to turn it back on immediately af
Re: Recommendations for a keyboard for an iPad mini?
Hi Donna, I am probably one of the few who still likes full-size keyboards with lots of key travel and mechanical switches. To that end, I recently purchased a Logitech MX mechanical keyboard to use with my iPad mini. It is certainly larger than most. It has the full number pad. It has some spacing between the different sets of keys. It has the arrow keys with space around them so you can actually tell where and what they are. so it may not be for you. But it’s cheaper than the Apple keyboard for sure. I got it at Best Buy and I don’t remember what I paid, but I saw the Apple keyboards there and they were substantially more money. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2024, at 8:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Subject says it all. I need a keyboard for my iPad mini. Appreciate any and > all recommendations. > Cheers, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D6E5C18B-7D99-44DE-AD79-BF643A51B275%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/B9D33B59-FECC-428C-BCC5-A11910861173%40gmail.com.
Re: Apple Watch rapid battery drain during sleep
I just saw that language switch thing yesterday. I had never seen it before. In my case, I have Samantha set, but then it sometimes just switches to Russian, which I also have. But I don’t want it except if I’m trying to read Russian, which I don’t usually do on the watch. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2024, at 9:34 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Oh, wow! That must be really annoying. It’s bad enough with both voices > speaking English. I will write to accessibility right now. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Apr 25, 2024, at 11:30 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Yes I have that Samantha thing happening too and I am using Swedish Alva. >> It takes time to switch her back to Swedish and stop her from speaking >> Swedish with the Samantha Voice. >> So write to the accessibility team and I will give them feedback as I am a >> beta tester. >> Bless. >> /A >> >>> 25 apr. 2024 kl. 15:05 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> : >>> >>> Oh, and one more weird thing. This one happens during the day, when not in >>> sleep mode. My watch keeps switching back to Samantha. Currently, I am >>> unable to get it back to Siri voice 4, my usual voice. >>> Thanks, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 25, 2024, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Gabe, Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve tried that, with no change. In fact, the problem is getting worse. Last night when I went to bed at ten, it was at 100%. When I woke up at 3:30 this morning, it was down to 56%. But it’s definitely related to sleep mode. When I get up, I force power off the watch, and when it comes back up with sleep mode off, the battery behaves normally. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 24, 2024, at 10:24 PM, Gabe Griffith > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd also double tap the side button to bring up the app switcher and > close any apps that appear like they might be battery drainers. Heck, if > your battery is draining that fast it might be worth closing all apps and > then restarting your watch again > > Gabe > > > >>> On Apr 24, 2024, at 7:44 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >> Did that. I have been force powering it off every morning since this >> started. Once I do that, everything is back to normal, but then the >> next night the same thing happens. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Apr 24, 2024, at 8:21 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: >>> >>> Try restarting your watch, and see if that helps. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 24, 2024, at 07:46, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For the past three days, I’ve been waking up to find that my Apple >>> Watch battery is severely drained. When I went to bed last night, it >>> was at 100%, and when I woke up this morning, it was at 56%. Before >>> this week, it would generally be right around 92% when I woke up. The >>> other thing that seems strange, is that when I went to take it out of >>> sleep mode, there appeared to be some kind of count-down timer running. >>> Anyone have any idea what could be going on? >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E7BD0B1E-6433-4890-AE0A-BAAC345DDA20%40me.com. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu an
Re: To Upgrade Or Not To Upgrade
Wow! I haven’t seen a deal from my carrier except if you add a new line. We don’t need another line. So any deals are useless for us. I don’t know how old the SE3 is. But I’d be tempted to go for the 15 just because it’s way newer and therefore probably substantially faster. But how do you feel about losing your touch ID? You won’t be able to hang onto that forever, if rumors are to be believed. Because the next SE model assuming it actually comes out next year, is rumored to no longer have touch ID.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 27, 2024, at 2:59 PM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:Hello all, Please forgive my bringing this topic up again. I’ve been very happy with my iPhone SE 3up to now, so I didn’t pay much attention to earlier discussions about upgrading. However, my carrier has just tempted me with an e-mail upgrade offer that I’m seriously considering that includes a significant promo discount for the 15, plus being able to trade in my SE which is in excellent condition, especially since there’s absolutely no screen damage on it. I’d love to hear some thoughts about whether or not it might be a good idea to go through with the upgrade. I’m mostly thinking about how it would improve using navigation apps and the like. Many thanks for any thoughts/help,Pete De Vasto -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/010801dab081%242626fcd0%247274f670%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DEA515F2-D7FB-48BF-A09D-4DCCD2B57351%40gmail.com.
Re: A Question for Facebook App Users Regarding the Viewing of Timeline or Group Feeds in Chronological Order
Would love this info too. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > It seems that when I view a group feed in the Facebook app, the individual > member posts are not necessarily sorted into chronological order, from > newest to oldest. > > Is there a way to sort either my timeline feed or group feeds into > chronological order? > > The steps I use to view a group feed is as follows: > > 1. > From within the Facebook app, select the More tab, located near the bottom > right corner of the display. > > 2. > Select Groups. > > 3. > Select a group, of which I am a member. > > All replies appreciated. > > Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Collaborating on Google Docs with an iPad and the docs app or on the Mac
I have the need to collaborate with people on a Google doc, which is apparently a database sort of thing, where we have to make phone calls and notes. I would like to use my iPad and the docs app, as that would seem to be the simplest way. I have a keyboard for my iPad. I could also use a Mac which I have, or an android device, but I would have to get a keyboard for that, so I would prefer not to use it. I am looking for information from people who have collaborated on Google Docs with an iPad or a Mac as to how complicated it is to learn. Is there a tutorial or explanatory document regarding voiceover and Google Docs? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Fwd: [macvoiceover] Fwd: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale
While I personally do not have any plans to purchase a beta, having no clue how long it will take for the actual final product to come out, this is still a welcome development on the Mac braille front. Mary Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Keith Reedy > Date: July 19, 2016 at 2:57:43 PM PDT > To: Voiceover Mac > Subject: [macvoiceover] Fwd: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale > Reply-To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Neal Kuniansky" >> Subject: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale >> Date: July 19, 2016 at 3:30:34 PM EDT >> To: >> Reply-To: i...@duxsys.com >> >> Dear Dux: >> >> Announcing NEW DBT MAC; purchase the Beta now! >> * includes free update to the final 12.1 product & a free year of upgrades >> after that. >> >> We recommend using DBT MAC with OS X El Capitan. >> Pricing is $595, the same as for DBT Win. >> Registered owners of old DBT MAC can UPGRADE FOR ONLY $495. >> >> DBT MAC print and braille files are compatible with DBT WIN! >> >> Product status as of July 18, 2016: >>* There are limitations on TactileView graphics, >>* No auto-save, >>* No current support for ViewPlus embossers, >>* No current support for the Cosmo embosser, >>* Some issues with VoiceOver navigation by word moving forward. >>* Import of Word files does not include reference page markers from >> printed page breaks. >>* No current support of GOODFEEL files >> >> All of these are short term limitations, with the exception of the last >> two (reference page markers, GOODFEEL files), which may or may not be >> available in future releases. >> >> Apart from these current limitations and the possibility that some keyboard >> shortcuts may change, >> the DBT MAC program is stable. >> >> See: >> http://www.duxburysystems.com/dbt_mac.asp >> >> Contact your local dealer or Duxbury Systems directly! >> EMAIL: ord...@duxsys.com >> TEL: +1-978-204-1773 >> www.DUxburySystems.com >> Duxbury Systems, Inc. >> Over 40 years of service to braille literacy. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [macvoiceover] [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale
I have the windows version. And navigation with a screen reader without a braille display in that version in a translated document is also worthless. I would expect that to be the case unless you have a braille display. I could not find anywhere a list of supported printers. I have an index basic D version three. I wonder if that one is supported. I'm still not going to buy a beta. But eventually, if they iron out all the bugs. Maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. > wrote: > > I was delighted with this news and very willing to buy in if it meant I could > dispense with my cracked Windows machine. However, my first experience with > the demo was not good. The show-stopper was not being able to send the > translated document to my old Juliet Classic. DBT recognizes it but will not > actually send a document to it. VO navigation is a bit flakey and utterly > worthless in a translated document. I do not have a braille display. That > might have made the difference. The real issue for me though was not being > able to emboss. I’m glad I tried the demo first. From the email exchange I > had with support, I would suggest waiting at least until the next beta > version is released before bothering with it, but depending on what you want > to do with it and what equipment you have, your results may vary. > >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 10:29 AM, E.T. wrote: >> >> Its been a long time coming. Can't see paying for a beta but I will install >> the demo and see about that. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> Are We Alone in the Universe? >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 7/19/2016 6:46 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> While I personally do not have any plans to purchase a beta, having no >>> clue how long it will take for the actual final product to come out, >>> this is still a welcome development on the Mac braille front. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> *From:* Keith Reedy >>> <mailto:keithre...@fastmail.net>> >>>> *Date:* July 19, 2016 at 2:57:43 PM PDT >>>> *To:* Voiceover Mac >>> <mailto:macvoiceo...@freelists.org>> >>>> *Subject:* *[macvoiceover] Fwd: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale* >>>> *Reply-To:* macvoiceo...@freelists.org <mailto:macvoiceo...@freelists.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> *From: *"Neal Kuniansky" mailto:n...@duxsys.com>> >>>>> *Subject: **[duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale* >>>>> *Date: *July 19, 2016 at 3:30:34 PM EDT >>>>> *To: *mailto:duxn...@freelists.org>> >>>>> *Reply-To: *i...@duxsys.com <mailto:i...@duxsys.com> >>>>> >>>>> *Dear Dux:* >>>>> * * >>>>> *Announcing NEW DBT MAC; purchase the Beta now!* >>>>> ** includes free update to the final 12.1 product & a free year of >>>>> upgrades after that.* >>>>> * * >>>>> *We recommend using DBT MAC with OS X El Capitan.* >>>>> *Pricing is $595, the same as for DBT Win. * >>>>> *Registered owners of old DBT MAC can UPGRADE FOR ONLY $495.* >>>>> * * >>>>> *DBT MAC print and braille files are compatible with DBT WIN!* >>>>> * * >>>>> *Product status as of July 18, 2016: * >>>>> * * There are limitations on TactileView graphics,* >>>>> * * No auto-save,* >>>>> * * No current support for ViewPlus embossers,* >>>>> * * No current support for the Cosmo embosser,* >>>>> * * Some issues with VoiceOver navigation by word moving forward.* >>>>> * * Import of Word files does not include reference page markers >>>>> from printed page breaks.* >>>>> * * No current support of GOODFEEL files* >>>>> * * >>>>> *All of these are short term limitations, with the exception of the last* >>>>> *two (reference page markers, GOODFEEL files), which may or may not >>>>> be available in future releases.* >>>>> * * >>>>> *Apart from these current limitations and the possibility that some >>>>> keyboard shortcuts may change,* >>>>> *the DBT MAC program is stable.* >>>>> * * >>>>> *See:* >>>>> *http://www.duxburysystems.com/dbt_mac.asp* &g
Re: [macvoiceover] [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale
It is going to take some major furniture rearranging in order for me to move my index from Windows to Mac. I do not want to do that just to find out it doesn't work. When the full product comes out, I suppose they will have a list of supported printers. At least I hope so. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:10 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Install the demo and see if your Index is supported. I imagine this app > being in its infancy will take time to get it together. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 7/22/2016 8:58 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> I have the windows version. And navigation with a screen reader without a >> braille display in that version in a translated document is also worthless. >> I would expect that to be the case unless you have a braille display. I >> could not find anywhere a list of supported printers. I have an index basic >> D version three. I wonder if that one is supported. I'm still not going to >> buy a beta. But eventually, if they iron out all the bugs. Maybe. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. >>> wrote: >>> >>> I was delighted with this news and very willing to buy in if it meant I >>> could dispense with my cracked Windows machine. However, my first >>> experience with the demo was not good. The show-stopper was not being able >>> to send the translated document to my old Juliet Classic. DBT recognizes >>> it but will not actually send a document to it. VO navigation is a bit >>> flakey and utterly worthless in a translated document. I do not have a >>> braille display. That might have made the difference. The real issue for >>> me though was not being able to emboss. I’m glad I tried the demo first. >>> From the email exchange I had with support, I would suggest waiting at >>> least until the next beta version is released before bothering with it, but >>> depending on what you want to do with it and what equipment you have, your >>> results may vary. >>> >>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 10:29 AM, E.T. wrote: >>>> >>>> Its been a long time coming. Can't see paying for a beta but I will >>>> install the demo and see about that. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On 7/19/2016 6:46 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> While I personally do not have any plans to purchase a beta, having no >>>>> clue how long it will take for the actual final product to come out, >>>>> this is still a welcome development on the Mac braille front. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Keith Reedy >>>>> <mailto:keithre...@fastmail.net>> >>>>>> *Date:* July 19, 2016 at 2:57:43 PM PDT >>>>>> *To:* Voiceover Mac >>>>> <mailto:macvoiceo...@freelists.org>> >>>>>> *Subject:* *[macvoiceover] Fwd: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale* >>>>>> *Reply-To:* macvoiceo...@freelists.org >>>>>> <mailto:macvoiceo...@freelists.org> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *From: *"Neal Kuniansky" mailto:n...@duxsys.com>> >>>>>>> *Subject: **[duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale* >>>>>>> *Date: *July 19, 2016 at 3:30:34 PM EDT >>>>>>> *To: *mailto:duxn...@freelists.org>> >>>>>>> *Reply-To: *i...@duxsys.com <mailto:i...@duxsys.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Dear Dux:* >>>>>>> * * >>>>>>> *Announcing NEW DBT MAC; purchase the Beta now!* >>>>>>> ** includes free update to the final 12.1 product & a free year of >>>>>>> upgrades after that.* >>>>>>> * * >>>>>>> *We recommend using DBT MAC with OS X El Capitan.* >>>>>>> *Pricing is $595, the same as for DBT Win. * >>>>>>> *Registered owners of old DBT MAC can UPGRADE FOR ONLY $495.* >>>>>>> * * >>>>>>> *DBT M
Re: [macvoiceover] [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for sale
So even if I don't connect my embosser, I can open the demo and see which embossers are supported? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:20 PM, E.T. wrote: > > You can still evaluate the demo. I did see several Index embossers in the > list. Installation was easy. > > An email address is also provided which I will make use of when I put the > app through its paces. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 7/22/2016 9:31 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> It is going to take some major furniture rearranging in order for me to move >> my index from Windows to Mac. I do not want to do that just to find out it >> doesn't work. When the full product comes out, I suppose they will have a >> list of supported printers. At least I hope so. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:10 AM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Install the demo and see if your Index is supported. I imagine this app >>> being in its infancy will take time to get it together. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 7/22/2016 8:58 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> I have the windows version. And navigation with a screen reader without a >>>> braille display in that version in a translated document is also >>>> worthless. I would expect that to be the case unless you have a braille >>>> display. I could not find anywhere a list of supported printers. I have an >>>> index basic D version three. I wonder if that one is supported. I'm still >>>> not going to buy a beta. But eventually, if they iron out all the bugs. >>>> Maybe. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I was delighted with this news and very willing to buy in if it meant I >>>>> could dispense with my cracked Windows machine. However, my first >>>>> experience with the demo was not good. The show-stopper was not being >>>>> able to send the translated document to my old Juliet Classic. DBT >>>>> recognizes it but will not actually send a document to it. VO navigation >>>>> is a bit flakey and utterly worthless in a translated document. I do not >>>>> have a braille display. That might have made the difference. The real >>>>> issue for me though was not being able to emboss. I’m glad I tried the >>>>> demo first. From the email exchange I had with support, I would suggest >>>>> waiting at least until the next beta version is released before bothering >>>>> with it, but depending on what you want to do with it and what equipment >>>>> you have, your results may vary. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 10:29 AM, E.T. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Its been a long time coming. Can't see paying for a beta but I will >>>>>> install the demo and see about that. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/19/2016 6:46 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>> While I personally do not have any plans to purchase a beta, having no >>>>>>> clue how long it will take for the actual final product to come out, >>>>>>> this is still a welcome development on the Mac braille front. >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Keith Reedy >>>>>>> <mailto:keithre...@fastmail.net>> >>>>>>>> *Date:* July 19, 2016 at 2:57:43 PM PDT >>>>>>>> *To:* Voiceover Mac >>>>>>> <mailto:macvoiceo...@freelists.org>> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* *[macvoiceover] Fwd: [duxnews] DBT for Mac BETA now for >>>>>>>> sale* >>>>>>>> *Reply-To:* macvoiceo...@freelists.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvoiceo...@freelists.org> >>
Searching the yelp app for a location other than your current one
I have the latest version of the yelp app on my iPhone. I have been trying to figure out a way to search for restaurants in a town other than the one where I am currently located. There is a locations under settings. But there's no way to add a location. And there doesn't seem to be a way to change what comes up in the search, which always wants to search where you are currently. What am I missing? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone se as an iPod. Is that possible? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: > > You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running. > > Danny > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, >> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is >> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it >> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an iPhone >> se as an iPod. Is that possible? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's weird > about that? With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all. Not just a > dead sim. I literally had, *no!* sim. When I tried with both KitKat, and > with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two fingers to turn > on Talkback, it wouldn't do it. Try as I may, it would, not, happen. As > soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two fingers spread, > accessibility came right on first attempt. It was the weirdest thing I'd > ever seen! So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that was a glitch, or if > you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just like on IPhones. > > Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found > that a bit interesting. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card > > > Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a > Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >> >> You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running. >> >> Danny >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, >>> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is >>> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it >>> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an >>> iPhone se as an iPod. Is that possible? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https:/
Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up having to cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he would wreck it. And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it in. But if I do end up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't normally consider getting another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad mini is starting to act strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost the same as the iPhone SE. So I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real estate really. And the newer iPhone has a better chip than the current version of the iPad mini. Mary Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Mary, > > Yes. The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and I'd > imagine a 6S+. I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5. I know however it > will fit the 5S, as I've done it. > > Chris. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM > Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card > > > Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But > excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not > sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy > enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into the > Nexus six however, I'm not so sure. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> wrote: >> >> Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's >> weird about that? With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all. Not >> just a dead sim. I literally had, *no!* sim. When I tried with both >> KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two >> fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it. Try as I may, it would, >> not, happen. As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two >> fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt. It was the >> weirdest thing I'd ever seen! So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that >> was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just like >> on IPhones. >> >> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found >> that a bit interesting. >> --- >> Christopher Gilland >> JAWS Certified, 2016. >> Training Instructor. >> >> clgillan...@gmail.com >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM >> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card >> >> >> Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a >> Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Danny Noonan wrote: >>> >>> You require a cym card on setup but don't once the phone is up and running. >>> >>> Danny >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 11:56 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> I recall seeing somewhere that if you buy an iPhone, such as an iPhone SE, >>>> and you don't get a carriers Sim card to go with it, you can't use it. Is >>>> that true? I have an android phone that I never had a Sim card for, and it >>>> has worked just fine as a tablet more or less. I would like to use an >>>> iPhone se as an iPod. Is that possible? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >&
Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card
Thanks, Scott. I hope these new unlimited plans are not for new customers only. I will have to give their page a look. I assume I should find in there. Right? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:04 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > All the modern apple products use the nano SIM so once you have a right sized > SIM you can use it between devices. >T-Mobile will give you a nano SIM for free if you ask nicely you can go > that route. Also I meant to ping you off list, they are offering a bunch of > unlimited plans again you may want to give them another call. > > If all this is to much of a headache I have a pile of nano SIMs, I could drop > one in the mail. > >> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Thanks, Chris. When I got the sim from AT&T, which came in the mail, we >> couldn't get it in. So we took it to a local store, and they ended up having >> to cut it. I husband didn't want to do that, because he thought he would >> wreck it. And even after they cut it, they had a hard time getting it in. >> But if I do end up getting an SE, hopefully it will fit. I wouldn't normally >> consider getting another iPhone, since I have one. But my iPad mini is >> starting to act strangely. And the 64 GB version of the mini cost the same >> as the iPhone SE. So I'm thinking about it. I don't need the real estate >> really. And the newer iPhone has a better chip than the current version of >> the iPad mini. >> Mary >> >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> wrote: >>> >>> Mary, >>> >>> Yes. The sim in the Nexus 6 will fit an IPhone 6+, as well as a 6S, and >>> I'd imagine a 6S+. I don't know about an S E, nor a 5C/5. I know however >>> it will fit the 5S, as I've done it. >>> >>> Chris. >>> --- >>> Christopher Gilland >>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card >>> >>> >>> Well, my Nexus six started life on lollipop and definitely had no Sim. But >>> excess ability came on as you would expect it should. No idea why. I'm not >>> sure if the sim in the nexus six will fit an iPhone. But it certainly easy >>> enough to check. Given that they had the Devils time getting the sim into >>> the Nexus six however, I'm not so sure. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Actually, I don't want to get off topic here, Mary, but you know what's >>>> weird about that? With my Nexus 6, I had no sim in the thing at all. Not >>>> just a dead sim. I literally had, *no!* sim. When I tried with both >>>> KitKat, and with Lollypop back in the days to boot the phone and hold two >>>> fingers to turn on Talkback, it wouldn't do it. Try as I may, it would, >>>> not, happen. As soon as I put a sim in the thing, then rebooted, held two >>>> fingers spread, accessibility came right on first attempt. It was the >>>> weirdest thing I'd ever seen! So, yeah, my point is, I'm not sure if that >>>> was a glitch, or if you do actually need a sim on Android phones, just >>>> like on IPhones. >>>> >>>> Anyway, this is really getting OT, so I'll end it there, but I just found >>>> that a bit interesting. >>>> --- >>>> Christopher Gilland >>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>> Training Instructor. >>>> >>>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:40 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Purchasing an iPhone and not having a Sim card >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Danny. That is what I was afraid of. I wonder why you don't need a >>>> Sim card with an android phone but you do with an iPhone. Stupid. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from
Re: Is the Kindle App accessible on Mac OS ?
No. Absolutely worthless. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > > Hello, > I am using the Kindle App on my iPhone using VoiceOver and it works pretty > well. > > I would like to also read Kindle books on my iMac running the latest El > Capitan. I have installed the Kindle App but am having trouble registering > it. Is the App accessible with VoiceOver on Mac OS? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Voice dream reader cutting out
I am sending this to two lists, because I know there are some on the Mac list who use I-devices and are not subscribed to the iPhone list. I have recently noticed that voice dream reader will sometimes cut out when I am reading a book from book share. I thought at first that there was a problem with my iPad mini, which is usually where I do my reading. So I switched to my iPhone 6s, and discovered that the problem was also happening there. I really can't find a pattern, except that it seems to occur most often when I have moved around within a book. But that is not always true. I have found this problem while using the Kendra voice, which is when I have been using lately due to the type of material I have been reading. So I don't know if it is just that voice or something more. I never had a problem with that boys until recently. This problem may be associated with the recent update to iOS 9. But that was such a small update that that seems hard to believe. Anyway, I am curious if any other voice dream users have noticed this issue where the voice while you were reading just cuts out for a while and then comes back in a different place in the book. It's like it started rewind or fast-forward a bit. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Audible.com new library view
Are used my phone today to purchase two books in the sale and used to other credits on the regular site to buy two more books. This was on the phone, not on the Mac or the PC, so I can't speak to accessibility there. I have actually never used the Mac to buy an audible book, since the idea of putting books and iTunes just didn't make a lot of sense to me. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > I hope they're not back peddling on accessibility. I've been a member for > over 16 years, and would hate to have to cancel now. Granted, I have Bard, > but still... > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:24 AM > Subject: Audible.com new library view > > > Hello everyone, > > Audible has changed its library view and it’s horrible! You have to hover the > mouse over the book’s cover image and click to get the download options. > Sometimes, the mouse simply will not come to the VoiceOver cursor and the > whole thing is very hit and miss. > I’ve chatted with someone at Audible and he’s going to pass my comments on to > the web designers. > We’ll just have to wait and see. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: amazon's accesability contact.
Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the excess ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that address from him personally. That sounds like something that would not be something he would directly deal with as head of the whole department. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service now, who knows. > > pk...@amazon.com > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital orders, and >> locate my items, and choose download your music...I reach an error that >> says >> "we are having a problem with your music orders. >> I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my question is >> for a direct accessibility contact, not instructions. >> Thanks, >> Kare >> >> >>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Mark Taylor posted some information probably last year about >>> downloading music via web interface. >>> >>> I have not done this as I have not bought music in a while. I am >>> pasting below the information Amazon sent to Mark. >>> >>> As an alternative, you can download your music directly through your >>> web browser. To help make this easier, we've completely redesigned web >>> browser downloading. It now gives you the option to download albums >>> and multiple tracks at the same time using .ZIP files. ZIP is a file >>> format that compresses content for quicker transfer. >>> >>> You can download music through your browser after completing a Digital >>> Music Store purchase, from Your Orders >>> (https://www.amazon.com/yourorders), and from your music library >>> https://www.amazon.com/musiclibrary >>> >>> Just select the albums or songs you want to download and click the >>> "Download" option onscreen. If prompted to install the Amazon Music >>> app for PC and Mac, you can click "No thanks, just download music >>> files directly." >>> >>> For multiple songs and albums, your download starts automatically in a >>> pop-up window, and is split into one or more .ZIP files. You can click >>> the files in the download window once they're ready to save to your >>> computer. If you've only selected one song, it downloads as an >>> individual .MP3 file. >>> >>> To complete your download: >>> >>> 1. Choose "Save" if your browser asks whether you want to open or save >>> the file(s). >>> >>> 2. Open the file(s) once the download is complete. Most browsers >>> display the status of your download onscreen, and then give you an >>> option to open it. >>> >>> 3. Files typically save to your browser's default "Downloads" folder. >>> You can then move each of the music tracks you've downloaded to the >>> preferred location on your computer (e.g. "Your Music" or "Music"). >>> >>> Tip: To add your downloaded music to iTunes, launch the iTunes app and >>> select "Add File to Library" from the menu. Browse to the file or >>> location where you saved your download, then select each track you >>> want to add and confirm. >>> >>> To learn more about downloading music through your browser, go to: >>> https://www.amazon.com/help/music/zipdownloads >>> >>> You can also use the Amazon Music app for PC and Mac to download music >>> to your computer. With the Amazon Music app, you can play and download >>> your music library, automatically export your downloaded music to >>> iTunes or Windows Media Player, and more. For additional information, >>> including installation instructions, go to: >>> https://www.amazon.com/getamazonmusic >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> On 8/16/2016 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, I am asking here because I believe someone before shared their name and e-mail. I am beyond dismayed that I cannot download the mp3 items, three files, that I have purchased. Amazon seems to be force feeding their library program, which I am told by a supervisor should not be the case. Given all the spam coming from their direction of late, I am likely going to have to get someone else to log in and get my files as I require them under deadline. Still I want to raise the issue with accessibility, because the access page is worse than the rest oft he site. ideas? Kare >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is >>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> Th
Re: amazon's accesability contact.
I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to take it too. I do know just as a general rule the people who are in charge of large efforts are not in the habit of answering nuts and bolts? This on an individual basis, just based on the fact that they are upper management. So, sure. Right to Peter corn at that address, assuming it is correct. But if you don't get an answer, don't be surprised. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:02 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Mary, > Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is not > the one to take it to, then who or what or where? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the excess >> ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that address from >> him personally. That sounds like something that would not be something he >> would directly deal with as head of the whole department. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service now, who >>> knows. >>> >>> pk...@amazon.com >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>> ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital orders, and >>>> locate my items, and choose download your music...I reach an error that >>>> says >>>> "we are having a problem with your music orders. >>>> I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my question is >>>> for a direct accessibility contact, not instructions. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kare >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mark Taylor posted some information probably last year about >>>>> downloading music via web interface. >>>>> >>>>> I have not done this as I have not bought music in a while. I am >>>>> pasting below the information Amazon sent to Mark. >>>>> >>>>> As an alternative, you can download your music directly through your >>>>> web browser. To help make this easier, we've completely redesigned web >>>>> browser downloading. It now gives you the option to download albums >>>>> and multiple tracks at the same time using .ZIP files. ZIP is a file >>>>> format that compresses content for quicker transfer. >>>>> >>>>> You can download music through your browser after completing a Digital >>>>> Music Store purchase, from Your Orders >>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/yourorders), and from your music library >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/musiclibrary >>>>> >>>>> Just select the albums or songs you want to download and click the >>>>> "Download" option onscreen. If prompted to install the Amazon Music >>>>> app for PC and Mac, you can click "No thanks, just download music >>>>> files directly." >>>>> >>>>> For multiple songs and albums, your download starts automatically in a >>>>> pop-up window, and is split into one or more .ZIP files. You can click >>>>> the files in the download window once they're ready to save to your >>>>> computer. If you've only selected one song, it downloads as an >>>>> individual .MP3 file. >>>>> >>>>> To complete your download: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Choose "Save" if your browser asks whether you want to open or save >>>>> the file(s). >>>>> >>>>> 2. Open the file(s) once the download is complete. Most browsers >>>>> display the status of your download onscreen, and then give you an >>>>> option to open it. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Files typically save to your browser's default "Downloads" folder. >>>>> You can then move each of the music tracks you've downloaded to the >>>>> preferred location on your computer (e.g. "Your Music" or "Music"). >>>>> >>&g
Re: amazon's accesability contact.
The broader problem is having a separate site for screaming ears at all. I have been on that site, not recently. When I was on it, it was very simplistic. It didn't offer anything like the full experience. But I didn't see anything that required a mouse. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I suppose I will find out as I sent him a copy of the email I provided the > accessibility feedback team. > Speaking only for myself, I would hope he took an interest. > The lack of keyboard interaction, most notably on the areas defined as being > for screen reader use does not reflect well on his leadership. > Kare > > >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the excess >> ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that address from >> him personally. That sounds like something that would not be something he >> would directly deal with as head of the whole department. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service now, who >>> knows. >>> >>> pk...@amazon.com >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>> ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital orders, and >>>> locate my items, and choose download your music...I reach an error that >>>> says >>>> "we are having a problem with your music orders. >>>> I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my question is >>>> for a direct accessibility contact, not instructions. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kare >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mark Taylor posted some information probably last year about >>>>> downloading music via web interface. >>>>> >>>>> I have not done this as I have not bought music in a while. I am >>>>> pasting below the information Amazon sent to Mark. >>>>> >>>>> As an alternative, you can download your music directly through your >>>>> web browser. To help make this easier, we've completely redesigned web >>>>> browser downloading. It now gives you the option to download albums >>>>> and multiple tracks at the same time using .ZIP files. ZIP is a file >>>>> format that compresses content for quicker transfer. >>>>> >>>>> You can download music through your browser after completing a Digital >>>>> Music Store purchase, from Your Orders >>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/yourorders), and from your music library >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/musiclibrary >>>>> >>>>> Just select the albums or songs you want to download and click the >>>>> "Download" option onscreen. If prompted to install the Amazon Music >>>>> app for PC and Mac, you can click "No thanks, just download music >>>>> files directly." >>>>> >>>>> For multiple songs and albums, your download starts automatically in a >>>>> pop-up window, and is split into one or more .ZIP files. You can click >>>>> the files in the download window once they're ready to save to your >>>>> computer. If you've only selected one song, it downloads as an >>>>> individual .MP3 file. >>>>> >>>>> To complete your download: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Choose "Save" if your browser asks whether you want to open or save >>>>> the file(s). >>>>> >>>>> 2. Open the file(s) once the download is complete. Most browsers >>>>> display the status of your download onscreen, and then give you an >>>>> option to open it. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Files typically save to your browser's default "Downloads" folder. >>>>> You can then move each of the music tracks you've downloaded to the >>>>> preferred location on your computer (e.g. "Your Music" or "Music"). >>>>> >>>>> Tip: To add your downloaded music to iTunes, launch the iTunes app and >&
Re: amazon's accesability contact.
No. Peter corn has been doing accessibility for a very long time. He certainly is familiar with the guidelines and the nuts and the bolts. But he is not going nor should we expect him to answer everyone's complaint. They certainly should have people further down the line from Peter corn who can deal with consumer complaints. If they don't, they need to hire more people. This would be like writing to some executive at apple and expecting them to deal with your specific complaint about a voiceover bug. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:18 PM, E.T. wrote: > > No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If this > upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it not > obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear from those > these efforts is supposedly aimed at? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 8/16/2016 9:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability >> initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to take it too. I do know just as a >> general rule the people who are in charge of large efforts are not in the >> habit of answering nuts and bolts? This on an individual basis, just based >> on the fact that they are upper management. So, sure. Right to Peter corn at >> that address, assuming it is correct. But if you don't get an answer, don't >> be surprised. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:02 PM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Mary, >>> Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is not >>> the one to take it to, then who or what or where? >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the >>>> excess ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that >>>> address from him personally. That sounds like something that would not be >>>> something he would directly deal with as head of the whole department. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, E.T. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service now, who >>>>> knows. >>>>> >>>>> pk...@amazon.com >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>>> ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital orders, and >>>>>> locate my items, and choose download your music...I reach an error that >>>>>> says >>>>>> "we are having a problem with your music orders. >>>>>> I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my question is >>>>>> for a direct accessibility contact, not instructions. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Kare >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Taylor posted some information probably last year about >>>>>>> downloading music via web interface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not done this as I have not bought music in a while. I am >>>>>>> pasting below the information Amazon sent to Mark. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As an alternative, you can download your music directly through your >>>>>>> web browser. To help make this easier, we've completely redesigned web >>>>>>> browser downloading. It now gives you the option to download albums >>>>>>> and multiple tracks at the same time using .ZIP files. ZIP is a file >>>>>>> format that compresses content for quicker transfer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can download music through your browser after completing a Digital >>>>>>> Music Store purchase, from Your Orders >>>>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/yourorders), and from your music library >>>>>
Re: amazon's accesability contact.
Peter corn is a guy with decades of experience in the excess ability field. He is not some guy with a disability that some company put front and center just to make something look good. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Honestly that depends on Mr. Korn's personal background. > Sometimes management leads with their own experience of a disability, > instead of recognizing that inclusion refers to the floor not the person > using the floor. > One does not find a different Walmart for those arriving in a van then > say those on a skateboard, so one should not have a different amazon for > those who prefer less clutter when they shop. > Sometimes, as with say paypal, the person listed as being in charge of > accessibility seemingly gets paid to pretend a disability with a demo. > I have an email from an amazon supervisor stating that the company takes > inclusion seriously. given it is far easier for them to be sued in some > countries where they do business over access than stateside, I intend > believing they sincere until I learn otherwise. > applying a generalized expectation sometimes leads to poor results or so I > personally feel. > Kare > > >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >> >> No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If this >> upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it not >> obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear from >> those these efforts is supposedly aimed at? >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> Are We Alone in the Universe? >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 8/16/2016 9:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability >>> initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to take it too. I do know just as >>> a general rule the people who are in charge of large efforts are not in >>> the habit of answering nuts and bolts? This on an individual basis, just >>> based on the fact that they are upper management. So, sure. Right to Peter >>> corn at that address, assuming it is correct. But if you don't get an >>> answer, don't be surprised. >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:02 PM, E.T. wrote: >>> > > Mary, >>> >Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is > >>> >not the one to take it to, then who or what or where? >>> > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> > Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> > ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> > > > On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> > > Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the >>> > > > > excess ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from >>> > > that > > address from him personally. That sounds like something that >>> > > would not > > be something he would directly deal with as head of the >>> > > whole > > department. >>> > > Mary >>> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone >>> > > > > > On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, E.T. >>> > > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > > > Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service >>> > > > > > > now, > > > who knows. >>> > > > > > > pk...@amazon.com >>> > > > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> > > > Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> > > > > > > > On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> > > > > ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital > > > >>> > > > > > orders, and >>> > > > > locate my items, and choose download your music...I reach an error >>> > > > > > > > > that >>> > > > > says >>> > > > > "we are having a problem with your music orders. >>> > > > > I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my > > > >>> > > > > > question is >>> > > > > for a direct accessibility contact, not instructions. >>> > > > > Thanks, >>> > > > > Kare >>> > > > > > >
Re: amazon's accesability contact.
Well, if you look at what they have done with their Kindle devices in the last year or year and a half, plus how they have made the Alexa Apple whole lot more usable, I would say they're moving in the right direction. They are also moving in the right direction with their screen reader on the Kindle fire, which is also preliminarily available on the fire TV. Given where Amazon was just a couple or three years ago, I think they're making good strides. I do certainly hope that the website sees some serious excess ability improvement. But I don't think it is fair to call into question Peter's commitment to excess ability. He has decades in the field and is clearly committed. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi Mary, > Peter Korn's official title is archetype. In a way that at least suggests > that he deals directly with the development and implementation of access > standards in Amazon products. Far more so than say if he was a VP of > management. > It is not a question of his focus upon what looks good. It is a question of > what insures access for individuals with various disability experiences. > I know he is talented, i still use outspoken for my pro tools machine. But > how his desires translate into functionality for Amazon remains a mystery > given what I found last night. > Karen > > >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Peter corn is a guy with decades of experience in the excess ability field. >> He is not some guy with a disability that some company put front and center >> just to make something look good. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Karen Lewellen >>> wrote: >>> >>> Honestly that depends on Mr. Korn's personal background. >>> Sometimes management leads with their own experience of a disability, >>> instead of recognizing that inclusion refers to the floor not the person >>> using the floor. >>> One does not find a different Walmart for those arriving in a van then >>> say those on a skateboard, so one should not have a different amazon for >>> those who prefer less clutter when they shop. >>> Sometimes, as with say paypal, the person listed as being in charge of >>> accessibility seemingly gets paid to pretend a disability with a demo. >>> I have an email from an amazon supervisor stating that the company takes >>> inclusion seriously. given it is far easier for them to be sued in some >>> countries where they do business over access than stateside, I intend >>> believing they sincere until I learn otherwise. >>> applying a generalized expectation sometimes leads to poor results or so I >>> personally feel. >>> Kare >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>>> >>>> No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If >>>> this upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it >>>> not obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear >>>> from those these efforts is supposedly aimed at? >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On 8/16/2016 9:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability >>>>> initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to take it too. I do know just as >>>>> a general rule the people who are in charge of large efforts are not in >>>>> the habit of answering nuts and bolts? This on an individual basis, just >>>>> based on the fact that they are upper management. So, sure. Right to Peter >>>>> corn at that address, assuming it is correct. But if you don't get an >>>>> answer, don't be surprised. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:02 PM, E.T. wrote: >>>>>>> Mary, >>>>>> Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is > >>>>>>not the one to take it to, then who or what or where? >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>> On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>> Given the fact
Re: For Karen, Amazon Music
Did you get the Mac app in the Mac App Store? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Hi Karen and others, > After Amazon MP3 Downloader (Windows) was given the boot, I installed the > Amazon Music app. I do not recall just what I had to do initially but now, > when I buy music, all I need do is open the Windows app and my new music goes > into a chosen folder. > > I see no reason why the Mac version will not do just as well. Its set to > download new music into a chosen folder within the Downloads folder. There is > an option to put it directly into iTunes but I prefer to do it manually so I > can find the files quickly to put on media players and into a backup folder. > Then I copy to iTunes. > > I have not bought music since installing the Mac app so no idea if it works > but suspect it will work fine. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: For Karen, Amazon Music
And it's called "Amazon Music"? I ask only because I haven't downloaded any apps from Amazon onto my Mac since the useless Kindle app a while ago. I haven't even seen this music app, but I also haven't gone looking for it. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2016, at 2:31 PM, E.T. wrote: > > No, from the Amazon site. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 8/18/2016 2:30 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Did you get the Mac app in the Mac App Store? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Hi Karen and others, >>> After Amazon MP3 Downloader (Windows) was given the boot, I installed the >>> Amazon Music app. I do not recall just what I had to do initially but now, >>> when I buy music, all I need do is open the Windows app and my new music >>> goes into a chosen folder. >>> >>> I see no reason why the Mac version will not do just as well. Its set to >>> download new music into a chosen folder within the Downloads folder. There >>> is an option to put it directly into iTunes but I prefer to do it manually >>> so I can find the files quickly to put on media players and into a backup >>> folder. Then I copy to iTunes. >>> >>> I have not bought music since installing the Mac app so no idea if it >>> works but suspect it will work fine. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Using Apple TV the fourth generation without a TV
Apple viz. recently published a podcast done by Lisa Sullenger on this topic. She mentions a specific HDMI to audio converter that she used with her stereo. The one thing she did not touch upon in her podcast has to do with an issue that has been raised on these lists before regarding the usability of this system with video content that is protected. I can't remember the name of the specification or coding or whenever it is involved that must be seen in order for the AppleTV to pick up the content. Generally, if the AppleTV is not connected to an actual video output which is actually turned on, you can't get a lot of this protected video content. So I am wondering about this system with this particular converter. Has anyone used it or any other converter connecting AppleTV fourth-generation to a stereo with no TV present and still able to receive the full complement of all the video channels, such as Netflix, HBO etc. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked
Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog Apple has rolled out a patch for three previously unknown zero-day exploits that were used to hack into the iPhone 6 of Ahmed Mansoor, an award-winning human rights activist based in the United Arab Emirates. Security company Lookout and internet watchdog group Citizen Lab investigated the attack on Mansoor's iPhone and found it to be the product of NSO Group, a "cyber war" organization based in Israel that's responsible for distributing a powerful, government-exclusive spyware product called Pegasus. The hack took advantage of three zero-day exploits that allowed the attackers to jailbreak Mansoor's iPhone and install spyware to track his movements, record his WhatsApp and Viber calls, log his messages and access his microphone and camera. Given the high cost of iPhone zero-days and the use of a government-specific spyware product, Citizen Lab believes the UAE is behind the hack. The UAE has previously targeted Mansoor. "We are not aware of any previous instance of an iPhone remote jailbreak used in the wild as part of a targeted attack campaign, making this a rare find," Citizen Lab writes. Once Citizen Lab discovered the zero-days, it contacted Apple and says the company responded promptly. Apple released a software update today, iOS 9.3.5, that addresses the three flaws. Original Article: https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/25/apple-iphone-security-flaw-update-activist-hack/ Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App
In my experience, the apps do a pretty good job most of the time with the side of the street. That's true for the GPS in our car, not just blindness apps. There certainly not perfect. But most of the time, they seem to get it right. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:58 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust > any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are > currently on. GPS is not that accurate. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs wrote: >> >> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This >> is definitely a deal breaker for me. >> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United >> States and Canada. >>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone. >>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features >>> that people like with this app. >>> /A On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list. Did you mean to do that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list? I knew you’d get it and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that. Kawal. > On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for > iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the > Blind. > > So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining > whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its > user manual, below my signature line. > > A couple of things to note, however: > > 1. > Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and > Canada. > > 2. > At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store > anyway, $79.99. > > 3. > In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map > of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on > your iOS device. > > 4. > The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page > hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is: > http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html > > 5. > I have not edited the contents of this text in any way. I simply copied > the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be > consistent with the HTML version of the manual. > > Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this > app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation > solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am > referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo. > > Okay, on to the show. > > Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling, > > Mark > > Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide > > Copyright 2016 > > American Printing House for the Blind, Inc. > > 2016/8/19 > > Introduction > > When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main > interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind > users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more > orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby > Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined > with an accessible interface and customizable, current information about > points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the > vicinity and its characteristics. > > Nearby Explorer works by: > 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, > letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can > put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the > values on the screen. > 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted > information about: ◦points of interest (POIs), > ◦direction and streets, and > ◦the closest point of interest. > > 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as > you approach, > ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems > in over 30 metro areas, > ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and > ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements. > > > Features > > The information that Nearby Ex
Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App
Janine is correct. I didn't listen to the podcast, but if Mike said that in general it didn't identify the side of the street for the destination, he was wrong. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:40 AM, gs wrote: > > The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard > describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of the > street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never identifies > it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of the product > identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also identifies it when > possible, I will likely purchase it. > > > > On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote: > > At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. > > Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is on > if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this > possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in > geocodes for things like points of interest. > > I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple times, > but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. > > to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does provide > this information when possible. > Jenine Stanley > dragonwalke...@gmail.com > > > >> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs wrote: >> >> Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave >> it at that. >> >> Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side >> of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this >> unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, >> orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious >> that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the >> street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them >> if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street. >> >> Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one >> would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like >> it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies >> the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the >> information available to a blind user if possible. >> If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase >> this with faith that it might be added in the future. >> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >> When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When >> the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, >> good O&M skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking >> people in the area. >> >> I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent >> success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate >> tool, it is another tool. >> >> Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on >> O&M skills without GPS. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens wrote: >>> >>> I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am >>> on. The concern is about the destination. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs wrote: > > Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. > This is definitely a deal breaker for me. > On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United > States and Canada. >> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg >> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone. >> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other >> features that people like with this app. >> /A >>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> >>> Hello Mark. >>> >>> Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list. Did you mean to do >>> that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list? I knew you’d get it >>> and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that. >>> >>> Kawal. On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor w
Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App
I would have to actually experience that to believe it. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I have a very good friend who built an interface between his dog and a GPS > mapping package. The dog was then trained to follow a dot that a set of > goggles it was wearing projected off in to space. The dog followed the dot, > the dot was controlled by the mapping software and the user could set their > destination and put the dog on auto pilot. Ok, not quite but the dog could > be routed by the GPS software directly. It was very clever. > > I’ll be interested to see how these technologies will change when the next > round of GPS is in place and the accuracy is improved even further. > > > >> On Aug 28, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >> Really, it doesn't matter what GPS you use, as long as you can travel safely >> and reliably either in Familiar areas or in areas that you know. I do not >> have the confidence in relying on GPS, Might mobility is very good, but, I >> do believe in human intervention as I have a guide dog. If I was to use >> GPS, then I would rather I knew the area 1st to get the most out of my GPS >> experience. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 28 Aug 2016, at 7:40 pm, gs wrote: >>> >>> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard >>> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of >>> the street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never >>> identifies it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of >>> the product identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also >>> identifies it when possible, I will likely purchase it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley >>> wrote: >>> >>> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. >>> >>> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is >>> on if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this >>> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in >>> geocodes for things like points of interest. >>> >>> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple >>> times, but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. >>> >>> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does >>> provide this information when possible. >>> Jenine Stanley >>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs wrote: Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave it at that. Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street. Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the information available to a blind user if possible. If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase this with faith that it might be added in the future. On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden wrote: When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, good O&M skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking people in the area. I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate tool, it is another tool. Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on O&M skills without GPS. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens wrote: > > I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I > am on. The concern is about the destination. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden >> wrote: >> >> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not >> trust any app which claimed to be able
Re: Using Apple TV the fourth generation without a TV
Kevin, just to be clear. You were saying that you can just send the audio output from your AppleTV fourth-generation to a pair of Bluetooth speakers, and all video plays fine. Including things like Netflix HBO, all the things that would have some protection on them. They all play fine. That's really surprising but good. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > > I've it connected to Bluetooth speakers and it doesn't require TV to be ON. > >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:40 AM Simon Fogarty wrote: >> HI Mary, >> >> I know some sound systems now have an HDMI input which you can plug in the >> likes of a blueray or I guess apple tv and then have another HDMI output >> cable to your tv so that everything goes through the stereo first before the >> tv, >> >> Whether you can do this with the tv I can't say >> >> My apple tv 4 is only connected to my Samsung tv, where as with the apple tv >> 2 I had an optical connector which allowed me to connect to my Logitech >> stereo speakers without the tv and I could play videos / tv and music >> through the sound system with out the tv screan active. >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:30 PM >> To: VIPhone 'RobH. ' via ; >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org >> Subject: Using Apple TV the fourth generation without a TV >> >> Apple viz. recently published a podcast done by Lisa Sullenger on this >> topic. She mentions a specific HDMI to audio converter that she used with >> her stereo. The one thing she did not touch upon in her podcast has to do >> with an issue that has been raised on these lists before regarding the >> usability of this system with video content that is protected. I can't >> remember the name of the specification or coding or whenever it is involved >> that must be seen in order for the AppleTV to pick up the content. >> Generally, if the AppleTV is not connected to an actual video output which >> is actually turned on, you can't get a lot of this protected video content. >> So I am wondering about this system with this particular converter. Has >> anyone used it or any other converter connecting AppleTV fourth-generation >> to a stereo with no TV present and still able to receive the full complement >> of all the video channels, such as Netflix, HBO etc. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
Hi Mark, Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the new > iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. > > When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the > removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to its > flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, effectively, > rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept those features. > > A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS > devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon > attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed to > turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in order to > manage photos. > > Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature in > the subsequent release of iTunes. > > So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells > me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM > To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List > Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the > iPhone seven > > When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first > appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so > potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the > iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least. > > - Bill & Leader Dog Holland > - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure > they are going to have some pretty annoying virtues." > - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)-- > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it means that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use hearing aids on iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on Apple's part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wouldn't do it if they didn't have a workaround that would work for people who use hearing aids. The hard of hearing community is orders of magnitude larger then the blind community. So Shirley, this adapter must be providing someway for people who use hearing aids to keep on doing so. What am I missing here? I remember sometime ago, when the idea that the headphone jack would go away first came out, Jonathan wrote a very impassioned piece on this subject, arguing that this was a very bad idea because of the use case of hearing aids. Now Apple is going to do it anyway, but they're offering an adapter. Why doesn't that solve the problem? I understand why Bluetooth is not a good alternative, given Jonathan's comments on battery drain and the well-known problem for voiceover users with latency. It's still really bad, at least on my phone with my Plantronics legend. I would not want to have to type on that system for anything more than a word or two, because the latency between when you touch a letter and when you hear it is much too long. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Mary, you’re exactly right and points well stated as always. Here’s another > point to consider, suppose we add wireless charging. Now, you could have a > brick with no ports what so ever formed from one solid piece of material. > You could almost grow the casing and have a super durable waterproof phone > with no openings at all. The entire surface could be a screen. Not needing > ports is a good thing over all. > > > >> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the >> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage >> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the >> other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new >> phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other >> headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the >> headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device >> makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In >> fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack on >> the phone. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the >>> new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. >>> >>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the >>> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to >>> its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, >>> effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept >>> those features. >>> >>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS >>> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon >>> attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed >>> to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in >>> order to manage photos. >>> >>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature >>> in the subsequent release of iTunes. >>> >>> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells >>> me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM >>> To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>> iPhone seven >>> >>> When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first >>> appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so >>> potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the >>> iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least. &
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
I guess I'm still with the folks who haven't really seen the utility, or at least the really over whelming use case for having the watch. Perhaps the next iteration will change my mind. Admittedly one reason for my reluctance on this score has been the fact that I am probably one of the few people who still uses a braille watch. I despise talking time devices that go off at the most inopportune times, such as during a meeting at Cetera. With the new 2.0, will be getting the ability to have the vibrating feedback to tell the time. So that is a step in the right direction. I guess I just haven't seen the killer use case yet. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > You have to get a watch to get it but I find my absolutely critical now. > It’s so nice to be able to quickly flick and get the latest pop on your watch > or be able to walk away from your phone and just access quick data nicely on > your wrist. For sited users, being able to glance down say while driving > even or in various settings where you don’t want to break your focus for a > full look at your phone. >Another nice set of features are the health features. Even a gentle tap > on the wrist to just stand up and move around and stretch hourly or > motivation to meet your workout goals. >You can quick respond again from your wrist to messages or take a quick > call. It’s hard to explain. Also, the Apple watch is more independent than > people think. Since version 2.1 I believe it was given WiFi functions so it > can join your home network or other WiFi networks with some caveats and work > independently from the phone including placing and receiving calls if your > carrier supports WiFi calling which my carrier does fully. >To be clear, I was with you and then I got one as a gift and now I don’t > know what I’d do with out it and I’m dead excited to see watch 2.0 next week. > > > >> On Sep 1, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I've never really understood the point of the Apple watch, sure it can run >> apps, but so what, my phone does that, and the watch requires a phone >> connection to do most things anyway, totally redundant. >> Original message: >>> Hello Mary, >> >>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an >>> active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have alternatives >>> and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay >>> attention. >> >>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous >>> decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so >>> certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so. >> >>> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would >>> change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't >>> changed one bit either with or without it. >> >>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow >>> Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of Samsung >>> recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows." >> >>> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. Fortunately for >>> me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device >>> just because it is the latest. >> >>> Mark >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>> iPhone seven >> >>> Hi Mark, >>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the >>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage >>> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the >>> other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the >>> new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use >>> other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect >>> that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other >>> device makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. >>> In fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
Thanks for refreshing my memory about the special circumstances, Jonathan. I can only hope that Apple does the right thing and comes out with a way to enable simultaneous charging and headphone usage. I am obviously not a designer, but it seems like it Ohta be possible to make something like that. I mean, why not? If the audio and the power are all coming from that one place, why couldn't they make something with two connectors? No, it wouldn't be pretty or elegant. But if it worked, that would be the main thing, wouldn't it? If they are in fact committed to accessibility, and design of such a device as possible and reasonable, then they ought to do it. They do a lot of other things that are not necessary at all. Just I candy. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > > Hi Mary, unfortunately this issue doesn't affect the Deaf community in the > same way as it affects blind people who wear hearing aids and require decent > latency. And the fact that those of us who are affected are such a minority > makes us more vulnerable. You can be sure I am considering my legal options > under legislation here. > A standard hearing aid wearer uses their phone actively far less than a blind > person who wears a hearing aid. For example, if a Bluetooth solution is being > used, after a standard hearing aid wearer has finished their call or isn't > listening to music, the technology goes into standby and uses very little > energy. A blind person has VO talking a lot of the time if they're using > their device for tasks like reading and creating documents, email etc, so the > impact is much greater. > Even if people are willing to accept an adapter jutting out of their phone > with its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will not solve > the problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your device and use > headphones at the same time. I travel long distances for example, often with > flights over 12 hours long. I regularly take my Anka battery with me and > charge the phone while I use it to compensate for the inaccessible in-flight > entertainment system. It's important to me to have a full charge when I reach > my destination. Based on the information we have, it looks like you can > either listen to wired headphones or charge, not both. > That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears to > have to choose between privacy and charge. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > >> On 2/09/2016, at 4:41 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it means >> that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use hearing aids on >> iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on Apple's >> part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wouldn't do it if they >> didn't have a workaround that would work for people who use hearing aids. >> The hard of hearing community is orders of magnitude larger then the blind >> community. So Shirley, this adapter must be providing someway for people who >> use hearing aids to keep on doing so. What am I missing here? I remember >> sometime ago, when the idea that the headphone jack would go away first came >> out, Jonathan wrote a very impassioned piece on this subject, arguing that >> this was a very bad idea because of the use case of hearing aids. Now Apple >> is going to do it anyway, but they're offering an adapter. Why doesn't that >> solve the problem? I understand why Bluetooth is not a good alternative, >> given Jonathan's comments on battery drain and the well-known problem for >> voiceover users with latency. It's still really bad, at least on my phone >> with my legend. I would not want to have to type on that system for >> anything more than a word or two, because the latency between when you touch >> a letter and when you hear it is much too long. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>> Mary, you’re exactly right and points well stated as always. Here’s >>> another point to consider, suppose we add wireless charging. Now, you could >>> have a brick with no ports what so ever formed from one solid piece of >>> material. You could almost grow the casing and have a super durable >>> waterproof phone with no openings at all. The entire surface could be a >>> screen. Not needing ports is a good thing over all. >>> >>&
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t; Hello Mary, >>> >>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an >>> active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have alternatives >>> and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay >>> attention. >>> >>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous >>> decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so >>> certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so. >>> >>> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would >>> change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't >>> changed one bit either with or without it. >>> >>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow >>> Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of Samsung >>> recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows." >>> >>> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. Fortunately for >>> me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device >>> just because it is the latest. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>> iPhone seven >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the >>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage >>> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the >>> other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the >>> new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use >>> other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect >>> that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other >>> device makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. >>> In fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack >>> on the phone. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the >>>> new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. >>>> >>>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the >>>> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to >>>> its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, >>>> effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept >>>> those features. >>>> >>>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS >>>> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon >>>> attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed >>>> to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in >>>> order to manage photos. >>>> >>>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature >>>> in the subsequent release of iTunes. >>>> >>>> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something >>>> tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM >>>> To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List >>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>>> iPhone seven >>>> >>>> When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first >>>> appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so >>>> potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the >>>> iPhone 7. This coming to light does
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Yes. I too would like to be able to plug my eye device into a PC or Mac and access that like I could A thumb drive. I would also like a storage slot, so that damned 16 GB model they sell wouldn't be so ridiculously limited. Yes, I know they are supposedly upping it to 32, big deal. On the other hand, my android device is a nexus, because it gets timely updates, just like apples things do. No storage card there either. Nothing is perfect. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > The article I read must' have been gravely misinformed. > I would just like to download files from Safari to my iPhone such as mp3 > files. > viewing it as a harddrive like the Android phones. >> On 2 Sep. 2016, at 1:26 pm, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone jack. They took >> away the storage card slot. And they brought it back, because people >> complain. They took away the user replaceable battery. They did not bring >> that back, despite complaint. They do what they want. There is no >> immediately efficient replacement for that storage card slot. Apple has >> never had one. People have complained forever about the fact that it is >> harder to access the whole file system on Apple devices. As Apple change >> that? No they have not. >> >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Michael Marshall >>> wrote: >>> >>> There will definitely be a backlash, Samsung tried this and it was reversed. >>> The reason Apple is doing this is simple, money. >>>> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 6:28 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge >>>> negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the >>>> inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and >>>> reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. >>>> I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about >>>> the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I >>>> suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most people of >>>> upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone jack will >>>> cause a lot of people to sit it out. >>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, >>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging >>>> about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time >>>> when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to think that >>>> blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of the >>>> accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess I >>>> would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can >>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, even >>>> when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a stupid >>>> pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really upsetting. >>>> For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves these days, >>>> and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad. >>>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid >>>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all >>>> the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone >>>> who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to >>>> improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's >>>> difficult to get through an entire business day of use without the need to >>>> charge something. >>>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then >>>> charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, >>>> stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which >>>> parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, >>>> appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility >>>> market. >>>> Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And >>>> they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in >>&g
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Scott, you might be right. I certainly don't remember anything like that. Of course, 2 1/2 years ago, I was not exactly following android, having an Nexus seven that I mostly used for just reading books. On the other hand, if Samsung tried that, you think there would be more talk about it in the press now that others are doing it a lot later than Samsung, if your recollection is correct. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 5:28 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Mary, i could be way wrong here but I thought the Samsung S5 at least had a > usb port where you attached the headphones with an adapter. I could be > remembering wrong though. > >> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:26 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone jack. They took >> away the storage card slot. And they brought it back, because people >> complain. They took away the user replaceable battery. They did not bring >> that back, despite complaint. They do what they want. There is no >> immediately efficient replacement for that storage card slot. Apple has >> never had one. People have complained forever about the fact that it is >> harder to access the whole file system on Apple devices. As Apple change >> that? No they have not. >> >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Michael Marshall >>> wrote: >>> >>> There will definitely be a backlash, Samsung tried this and it was reversed. >>> The reason Apple is doing this is simple, money. >>>> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 6:28 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge >>>> negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the >>>> inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and >>>> reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. >>>> I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about >>>> the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I >>>> suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most people of >>>> upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone jack will >>>> cause a lot of people to sit it out. >>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, >>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging >>>> about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time >>>> when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to think that >>>> blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of the >>>> accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess I >>>> would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can >>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, even >>>> when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a stupid >>>> pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really upsetting. >>>> For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves these days, >>>> and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad. >>>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid >>>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all >>>> the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone >>>> who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to >>>> improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's >>>> difficult to get through an entire business day of use without the need to >>>> charge something. >>>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then >>>> charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, >>>> stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which >>>> parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, >>>> appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility >>>> market. >>>> Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And >>>> they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in >>>> time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive car
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Streaming is nice, but call me old-fashioned. I still like to have stuff actually on the phone. I also like to have stuff actually on the computer. Cloud is nice. Local storage is still what I like better. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I personally could care less what the memory size is. All my content is > streamed so I don’t use much of it other than for application memory. > Whether it’s 16, 32, or 256 GB it’s all the same. The only thing I find is > the higher memory units have a better resale value. > > > > >> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Yes. I too would like to be able to plug my eye device into a PC or Mac and >> access that like I could A thumb drive. I would also like a storage slot, >> so that damned 16 GB model they sell wouldn't be so ridiculously limited. >> Yes, I know they are supposedly upping it to 32, big deal. On the other >> hand, my android device is a nexus, because it gets timely updates, just >> like apples things do. No storage card there either. Nothing is perfect. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Michael Marshall >>> wrote: >>> >>> The article I read must' have been gravely misinformed. >>> I would just like to download files from Safari to my iPhone such as mp3 >>> files. >>> viewing it as a harddrive like the Android phones. >>>> On 2 Sep. 2016, at 1:26 pm, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone jack. They took >>>> away the storage card slot. And they brought it back, because people >>>> complain. They took away the user replaceable battery. They did not bring >>>> that back, despite complaint. They do what they want. There is no >>>> immediately efficient replacement for that storage card slot. Apple has >>>> never had one. People have complained forever about the fact that it is >>>> harder to access the whole file system on Apple devices. As Apple change >>>> that? No they have not. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Michael Marshall >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There will definitely be a backlash, Samsung tried this and it was >>>>> reversed. >>>>> The reason Apple is doing this is simple, money. >>>>>> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 6:28 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a >>>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope >>>>>> the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did >>>>>> this and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New >>>>>> Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably >>>>>> livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want >>>>>> this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most >>>>>> people of upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone >>>>>> jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out. >>>>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, >>>>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started >>>>>> blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm >>>>>> at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to >>>>>> think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of >>>>>> the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess >>>>>> I would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can >>>>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, >>>>>> even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a >>>>>> stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really >>>>>> upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves >>>>>> these days, and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn >>>>>> bad. >>>>>> As a hearing aid w
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
Simon, What good is a Sim card slot if you don't have an LTE radio in the watch? According to all the rumors, and of course they are just that, there's not going to be an LTE radio in the next watch. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > I also have this watch and the only thing I have against it is I forget to > set it in meetings to not ring if I get a call. > > I'd really like to see a new version have a sim card slot so I could use the > watch as an independent device without the phone. > Or even you get both options. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth > Sent: Friday, 2 September 2016 6:20 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the > iPhone seven > > Hi Mary > > I have the Apple Watch Sport myself and like it a lot. Yes, watchOS 3.0 will > have some great new accessibility features, but for now you can turn a > setting off that wakes the screen when you raise your wrist. I have done > this, and the watch no longer interrupts my daily living. I can dine for > example and the watch will not go off. The setting can be found under general > > wake screen. >> On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I guess I'm still with the folks who haven't really seen the utility, or at >> least the really over whelming use case for having the watch. Perhaps the >> next iteration will change my mind. Admittedly one reason for my reluctance >> on this score has been the fact that I am probably one of the few people who >> still uses a braille watch. I despise talking time devices that go off at >> the most inopportune times, such as during a meeting at Cetera. With the new >> 2.0, will be getting the ability to have the vibrating feedback to tell the >> time. So that is a step in the right direction. I guess I just haven't seen >> the killer use case yet. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>> You have to get a watch to get it but I find my absolutely critical now. >>> It’s so nice to be able to quickly flick and get the latest pop on your >>> watch or be able to walk away from your phone and just access quick data >>> nicely on your wrist. For sited users, being able to glance down say while >>> driving even or in various settings where you don’t want to break your >>> focus for a full look at your phone. >>> Another nice set of features are the health features. Even a gentle tap >>> on the wrist to just stand up and move around and stretch hourly or >>> motivation to meet your workout goals. >>> You can quick respond again from your wrist to messages or take a quick >>> call. It’s hard to explain. Also, the Apple watch is more independent >>> than people think. Since version 2.1 I believe it was given WiFi functions >>> so it can join your home network or other WiFi networks with some caveats >>> and work independently from the phone including placing and receiving calls >>> if your carrier supports WiFi calling which my carrier does fully. >>> To be clear, I was with you and then I got one as a gift and now I don’t >>> know what I’d do with out it and I’m dead excited to see watch 2.0 next >>> week. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>> >>>> I've never really understood the point of the Apple watch, sure it can run >>>> apps, but so what, my phone does that, and the watch requires a phone >>>> connection to do most things anyway, totally redundant. >>>> Original message: >>>>> Hello Mary, >>>> >>>>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an >>>>> active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have >>>>> alternatives and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that >>>>> companies pay attention. >>>> >>>>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically >>>>> ridiculous decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, >>>>> I'm not so certain that just because it decides something it better will >>>>> make it so. >>>> >>>>> I remember the fan fair A
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
I saw the rumors about the LTE coming to the watch. Then subsequently, there were other ones saying it wasn't going to happen because of the battery draw. They're adding a GPS. That will use the larger battery that is supposedly also coming. But not enough juice for both the GPS and the radio according to the rumors. Rumors, rumors, rumors. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Mary, there are some watches now that have this feature that simon speaks of. > You’re exactly right a radio would need to be included. For the watch, not > necessarily full LTE but HSPA+ or something may do the trick. The Samsung > Gear had a 3G radio included and I’m not sure what’s in the Gear S2. With a > Samsung you could run the watch totally separate from the phone. >I personally think this is an over rated feature unless you’re like simon > and want a watch only for a phone and no other device. I like the larger > devices so would always use my phone near my watch so all I care about is a > good bluetooth and WiFi stack on the watch. I’d like to see the 5 GHZ band > added to the watch and the ability to set the WiFi settings separately with > advanced features. There were rumblings of adding a full cell feature to the > apple watch but I don’t know if that was included in the upcoming release. > >> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Simon, >> What good is a Sim card slot if you don't have an LTE radio in the watch? >> According to all the rumors, and of course they are just that, there's not >> going to be an LTE radio in the next watch. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>> >>> I also have this watch and the only thing I have against it is I forget to >>> set it in meetings to not ring if I get a call. >>> >>> I'd really like to see a new version have a sim card slot so I could use >>> the watch as an independent device without the phone. >>> Or even you get both options. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth >>> Sent: Friday, 2 September 2016 6:20 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>> iPhone seven >>> >>> Hi Mary >>> >>> I have the Apple Watch Sport myself and like it a lot. Yes, watchOS 3.0 >>> will have some great new accessibility features, but for now you can turn a >>> setting off that wakes the screen when you raise your wrist. I have done >>> this, and the watch no longer interrupts my daily living. I can dine for >>> example and the watch will not go off. The setting can be found under >>> general > wake screen. >>>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> I guess I'm still with the folks who haven't really seen the utility, or >>>> at least the really over whelming use case for having the watch. Perhaps >>>> the next iteration will change my mind. Admittedly one reason for my >>>> reluctance on this score has been the fact that I am probably one of the >>>> few people who still uses a braille watch. I despise talking time devices >>>> that go off at the most inopportune times, such as during a meeting at >>>> Cetera. With the new 2.0, will be getting the ability to have the >>>> vibrating feedback to tell the time. So that is a step in the right >>>> direction. I guess I just haven't seen the killer use case yet. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You have to get a watch to get it but I find my absolutely critical now. >>>>> It’s so nice to be able to quickly flick and get the latest pop on your >>>>> watch or be able to walk away from your phone and just access quick data >>>>> nicely on your wrist. For sited users, being able to glance down say >>>>> while driving even or in various settings where you don’t want to break >>>>> your focus for a full look at your phone. >>>>> Another nice set of features are the health features. Even a gentle tap >>>>> on the wrist to just stand up and move around and
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
I guess it's kind of like owning your own CDs or albums. I have ripped all of mine in to iTunes. And I stream on the go. But I still like having those copies. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > See I’m on the opposite end of that spectrum. In fact I’m wondering why I > have a terabyte of storage in SSD on my laptop when I have so much attached > storage to the network. I have my folders like documents for example mapped > on my laptops so that documents automatically drop in to iCloud and live > there on iCloud drive. Everything is shared between the machines on the > network and doesn’t get stored locally. > One thing I’d like to see apple include is a cellular modem in the > laptops. I know we all have the hotspot option and many of us have mobile > hotspots but it would be nice to be able to just connect from anywhere with > out an extra gadget. I know that’s a first world problem, just turning on > the laptop and going would be nice though. To me I like the idea of > everything being decentralized but everyone’s use case is different. > > >> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Streaming is nice, but call me old-fashioned. I still like to have stuff >> actually on the phone. I also like to have stuff actually on the computer. >> Cloud is nice. Local storage is still what I like better. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>> I personally could care less what the memory size is. All my content is >>> streamed so I don’t use much of it other than for application memory. >>> Whether it’s 16, 32, or 256 GB it’s all the same. The only thing I find is >>> the higher memory units have a better resale value. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes. I too would like to be able to plug my eye device into a PC or Mac >>>> and access that like I could A thumb drive. I would also like a storage >>>> slot, so that damned 16 GB model they sell wouldn't be so ridiculously >>>> limited. Yes, I know they are supposedly upping it to 32, big deal. On the >>>> other hand, my android device is a nexus, because it gets timely updates, >>>> just like apples things do. No storage card there either. Nothing is >>>> perfect. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Michael Marshall >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The article I read must' have been gravely misinformed. >>>>> I would just like to download files from Safari to my iPhone such as mp3 >>>>> files. >>>>> viewing it as a harddrive like the Android phones. >>>>>> On 2 Sep. 2016, at 1:26 pm, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Samsung tried what? Samsung did not remove the headphone jack. They took >>>>>> away the storage card slot. And they brought it back, because people >>>>>> complain. They took away the user replaceable battery. They did not >>>>>> bring that back, despite complaint. They do what they want. There is no >>>>>> immediately efficient replacement for that storage card slot. Apple has >>>>>> never had one. People have complained forever about the fact that it is >>>>>> harder to access the whole file system on Apple devices. As Apple change >>>>>> that? No they have not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Michael Marshall >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There will definitely be a backlash, Samsung tried this and it was >>>>>>> reversed. >>>>>>> The reason Apple is doing this is simple, money. >>>>>>>> On 1 Sep. 2016, at 6:28 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a >>>>>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to >>>>>>>> hope the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they >>>>>>>> did
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
>> >>> On 02/09/2016 13:35, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Jonathan, now you’re just writing stuff to read it later, that’s just >>> nutty. You make it like some huge personal assault against the great and >>> mighty Jonathan Mosen, please, we’ve seen an adapter is going to exist so >>> you have your precious 1960s technology. >>> >>> >>> In the end, probably 3 people are going to care about this issue over all >>> and all 3 are on this list.:) >>> >>> The average consumer doesn’t care what shape or size plug they use as long >>> as when they plug it in the little light goes on and stuff works. >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>> >>>> Keep fighting the good fight David. This is far too important an issue to >>>> give up. Our money is as good as anyone else's and we must never give up >>>> advocating for recognition of our need to be able to use our devices with >>>> efficiency and privacy while also charging them. If it turns out that this >>>> need has been met, then it will in part be due to courageous people like >>>> you who have spoken up. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>>> On 2/09/2016, at 11:05 AM, David Griffith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As another deaf iPhone user I agree with >>>>> everything you say but I htink you will probably not get that much >>>>> understanding. I tried to explain on this list about how a wired headset >>>>> was essential for me but was accused bizarrely of being a troll because I >>>>> dared to criticise an Apple innovation. >>>>> This did cause another another poster to >>>>> comment that ironically some people are deaf to the concerns of those of >>>>> with hearing impairments. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> >>>>>> On 01/09/2016 20:07, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mary, unfortunately this issue doesn't >>>>>> affect the Deaf community in the same way as it affects blind people who >>>>>> wear hearing aids and require decent latency. And the fact that those of >>>>>> us who are affected are such a minority makes us more vulnerable. You >>>>>> can be sure I am considering my legal options under legislation here. >>>>>> A standard hearing aid wearer uses their phone actively far less than a >>>>>> blind person who wears a hearing aid. For example, if a Bluetooth >>>>>> solution is being used, after a standard >>>>>> hearing aid wearer has finished their call or isn't listening to music, >>>>>> the technology goes into standby and uses very little energy. A blind >>>>>> person has VO talking a lot of the time if they're using their device >>>>>> for tasks like reading and creating documents, email etc, so the impact >>>>>> is much greater. >>>>>> Even if people are willing to accept an adapter jutting out of their >>>>>> phone with its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will >>>>>> not solve the problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your >>>>>> device and use headphones at the same time. I travel long distances for >>>>>> example, often with flights over 12 hours long. I regularly take my Anka >>>>>> battery with me and charge the phone while I use it to compensate for >>>>>> the inaccessible in-flight entertainment system. It's important to me to >>>>>> have a full charge when I reach my destination. >>>>>> Based on the information we have, it looks like you can either >>>>>> listen to wired headphones or charge, not both. >>>>>> That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears >>>>>> to have to choose between privacy and charge. >>>>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>>>> Mosen Consulting >>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>>>> http://Mosen.org >>>>>>
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
I thought I made it clear, I said if it turns out that the adapter does not allow for this use case. If, you know, conditional. We will know in a week. Given all the leaks that are coming out, my guess is that the adapter is not going to do what is required. But since we don't know yet we have to wait and see. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 12:38 PM, E.T. wrote: > > How is the minority being adversely affected when the 7 is not even on the > market?! Seriously, some people are quite nervous about the future if not > downright frightened. (smiles) > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 9/2/2016 12:26 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Hi Scott, >> I agree that we don't know what the adapter will do, since it's not out. >> However, should it turn out to be the case that the adapter will not >> allow for simultaneous headphone usage and charging, this would be a >> problem for the use case the Jonathan outlined, would you not agree? >> Therefore, I don't see this as a case of arguing over nothing. It is a >> case of a minority of users being seriously adversely affected by this >> design decision I remember a few iterations of iOS ago, Apple broke the >> driver for one of the braille displays it had been supporting. I think >> it was a hymns product, but I'm not sure which one. That meant that >> folks who have invested a good deal of money in a particular product >> which had been working with Apple devices found themselves unable to >> access the device if they were dependent on braille. The breakage was >> brought to apples attention, and they did nothing about it for months >> until the next major release of iOS occurred. Now you could argue that >> this was a small subset of users. But the breakage effectively denied >> the use of the product to that small subset of users. It seems to me >> that one of the things you do when you make a serious commitment to >> accessibility is you promise not to break the devices people have >> invested in and make it impossible for them to use them as they have >> been doing. Earlier this year, when Apple released one of its upgrades >> that bricked some iPad pros, they rushed out a fix, as they should >> have. I often hear it said that blind people complain too much. We got >> what we wanted in the form of mainstream excess ability. Now we have to >> wait for our bugs to be fixed along with the bugs that everybody else is >> waiting to be fixed. I understand that to a point. But when you have a >> bug that so adversely affects a group of users, and you say you were >> serious about accessibility, then I think that you have to make good on >> your commitment. Again, since we don't know what this adapter will do, >> we can't say for sure whether Apple has caused a serious problem or not. >> But once the adapter is out, if the group of blind users who are also >> hard of hearing is seriously adversely affected, it seems to me that >> Apple has in fact broken its commitment. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 2, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Scott Granados > <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >> >>> WTF is an arrogrent? Is that like a loud Mexican a loud immigrant? >>> My mother had a bunch of them move in across the street, loud parties >>> but man the best bbq. >>> >>> >>> That being said, yes, you were being a troll then and I’m sorry to say >>> you’re still under the bridge. >>> >>> You’re all bitching over a product that doesn’t exist yet. We already >>> know that an adapter is being provided but that’s not good enough. >>> We’re all supposed to hold up civilization because you won’t use a >>> quarter inch piece. We’re not fighting for civil rights, we’re not >>> fighting over whether people are being killed in the streets by police >>> gone mad, we’re fighting over the fact you might have to use a small >>> plastic piece. I’m just calling you and Jonathan out for the >>> ridiculousness of A. bitching about something that’s not out yet and >>> B. about such a trivial issue . >>> I respect Jonathan a great deal and will tell him if I disagree with >>> his positions and in this case I do. They are well presented but I >>> think a decent means of access is being provided that doesn’t injure >>> the deaf blind user community so there’s a non issue. I’m sorry if >>> that gets your panties in a wad but there it is. I think his points >>> were off ba
Re: Verizon Wireless launches LTE advanced in 461 cities
Saw that. And I looked on the list of cities and lo and behold, Eugene Springfield is actually there. Nonetheless, I still have a very bad taste in my mouth from recent experience with Verizon. So I'm not going to be changing. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Posting this here as it impacts every iPhone user. > > Verizon activated carrier aggregation or LTE advanced across it’s network > this week. This feature bonds multiple channels together in to a single fast > bundle. This allows the connection to optimize for indoor or outdoor use, > different bands and so forth. The results are a 50% boost in peek speeds > with some readings exceeding 300 megabits when 3 connections are aggregated. > > Read more here > > http://www.verizon.com/about/news/mobile-users-461-cities-today-get-50-percent-faster-peak-speeds-no-extra-cost-introducing#main-content > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
Oh it probably will come. Frankly, I'm not in that much of a rush. As I said, I haven't seen the killer use case that would make me go out and spend a few hundred more bucks. But when the next one comes out, I hope to find a detailed review somewhere with a slant towards what is accessible, which is hopefully most things if not all. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > > Like anything it will take time to get everything to work as one with good > battery life. > > But it will come. > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2016 4:59 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the > iPhone seven > > I saw the rumors about the LTE coming to the watch. Then subsequently, there > were other ones saying it wasn't going to happen because of the battery draw. > They're adding a GPS. That will use the larger battery that is supposedly > also coming. But not enough juice for both the GPS and the radio according to > the rumors. Rumors, rumors, rumors. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> Mary, there are some watches now that have this feature that simon speaks >> of. You’re exactly right a radio would need to be included. For the watch, >> not necessarily full LTE but HSPA+ or something may do the trick. The >> Samsung Gear had a 3G radio included and I’m not sure what’s in the Gear S2. >> With a Samsung you could run the watch totally separate from the phone. >> I personally think this is an over rated feature unless you’re like simon >> and want a watch only for a phone and no other device. I like the larger >> devices so would always use my phone near my watch so all I care about is a >> good bluetooth and WiFi stack on the watch. I’d like to see the 5 GHZ band >> added to the watch and the ability to set the WiFi settings separately with >> advanced features. There were rumblings of adding a full cell feature to >> the apple watch but I don’t know if that was included in the upcoming >> release. >> >>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Simon, >>> What good is a Sim card slot if you don't have an LTE radio in the watch? >>> According to all the rumors, and of course they are just that, there's not >>> going to be an LTE radio in the next watch. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>> >>>> I also have this watch and the only thing I have against it is I forget to >>>> set it in meetings to not ring if I get a call. >>>> >>>> I'd really like to see a new version have a sim card slot so I could use >>>> the watch as an independent device without the phone. >>>> Or even you get both options. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher >>>> hallsworth >>>> Sent: Friday, 2 September 2016 6:20 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>>> iPhone seven >>>> >>>> Hi Mary >>>> >>>> I have the Apple Watch Sport myself and like it a lot. Yes, watchOS 3.0 >>>> will have some great new accessibility features, but for now you can turn >>>> a setting off that wakes the screen when you raise your wrist. I have done >>>> this, and the watch no longer interrupts my daily living. I can dine for >>>> example and the watch will not go off. The setting can be found under >>>> general > wake screen. >>>>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I guess I'm still with the folks who haven't really seen the utility, or >>>>> at least the really over whelming use case for having the watch. Perhaps >>>>> the next iteration will change my mind. Admittedly one reason for my >>>>> reluctance on this score has been the fact that I am probably one of the >>>>> few people who still uses a braille watch. I despise talking time devices >>>>> that
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
pple over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has >>> given them a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more viable >>> for daily use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm really going >>> to be stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then because there is >>> certainly going to be a backlash. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>>> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Mary, >>>> >>>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an >>>> active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have >>>> alternatives and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that >>>> companies pay attention. >>>> >>>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous >>>> decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so >>>> certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so. >>>> >>>> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would >>>> change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my world >>>> hasn't changed one bit either with or without it. >>>> >>>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to >>>> follow Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of >>>> Samsung recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it >>>> follows." >>>> >>>> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. Fortunately for >>>> me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device >>>> just because it is the latest. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>>> iPhone seven >>>> >>>> Hi Mark, >>>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the >>>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage >>>> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if >>>> the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with >>>> the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use >>>> other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect >>>> that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other >>>> device makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just >>>> Apple. In fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a >>>> headphone jack on the phone. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the >>>>> new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. >>>>> >>>>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the >>>>> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to >>>>> its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, >>>>> effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept >>>>> those features. >>>>> >>>>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS >>>>> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users >>>>> upon attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and >>>>> vowed to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use >>>>> iTunes in order to manage photos. >>>>> >>>>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature >>>>> in the subsequent release of iTunes. >>>>> >>>>> So, I'
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I think I misunderstood the post about the headphone jack and where it was regarding this Griffin device. What I want to know, and maybe will find out after they do a teardown, is whether the new iPhone is going to support that standard that sounds like avtex, it's for Bluetooth. Lots of android devices have it, but Apple doesn't. It makes Bluetooth audio better. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > > Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the Griffin device has > a 3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone using Bluetooth > 4.1. So depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone 7, we could hit the > latency issues that we all know about with VO and BT devices. > If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a work-around > of sorts, although of course you've then got yourself in the position where > you have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack charged, which hardly represents > progress. For people who keep VO talking for long periods, time between > charges may not be that long. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > >> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone >> jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this issue. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: >>> >>> Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any >>> 3.5MM headphone in to a blue tooth set. They will sell it for 19.99 I >>> believe. >>> >>> https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter >>> >>> This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at least >>> someone is trying. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in >>> >>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! >>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who >>>> had a dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both >>>> lightning port and 3.5mm jack. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> >>>>> 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen : >>>>> >>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a >>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope >>>>> the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this >>>>> and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New >>>>> Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably >>>>> livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want >>>>> this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most >>>>> people of upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone >>>>> jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out. >>>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, >>>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started >>>>> blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm >>>>> at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to >>>>> think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of >>>>> the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess >>>>> I would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can >>>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, even >>>>> when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a stupid >>>>> pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really upsetting. >>>>> For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves these days, >>>>> and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad. >>>>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid >>>>> wear
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No, I don't believe so. Several android devices, such as Nexus 6P and even my Nexus six, support this standard. Maybe it's not a standard. Maybe it's a protocol. All I know is, it is supposed to make Bluetooth audio better. I need to find out how it's spelled that would really help. There have been various reviews of Bluetooth devices decrying the fact that apples I devices don't support this, whereas lots of android ones do. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Is this part of the bluetooth 4.2 spec? i know the new apple products are > speaking bluetooth 4.2. > >> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I think I misunderstood the post about the headphone jack and where it was >> regarding this Griffin device. What I want to know, and maybe will find out >> after they do a teardown, is whether the new iPhone is going to support that >> standard that sounds like avtex, it's for Bluetooth. Lots of android devices >> have it, but Apple doesn't. It makes Bluetooth audio better. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the Griffin device >>> has a 3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone using >>> Bluetooth 4.1. So depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone 7, we >>> could hit the latency issues that we all know about with VO and BT devices. >>> If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a work-around >>> of sorts, although of course you've then got yourself in the position where >>> you have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack charged, which hardly represents >>> progress. For people who keep VO talking for long periods, time between >>> charges may not be that long. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>>> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone >>>> jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this issue. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any >>>>> 3.5MM headphone in to a blue tooth set. They will sell it for 19.99 I >>>>> believe. >>>>> >>>>> https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter >>>>> >>>>> This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at >>>>> least someone is trying. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>>> built-in >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who >>>>>> had a dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both >>>>>> lightning port and 3.5mm jack. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a >>>>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to >>>>>>> hope the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they >>>>>>> did this and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here >>>>>>> in New Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are >>>>>>> justifiably livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people >>>>>>> don't want this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the >>>>>>> benefits to most people of upgrading will be so incremental that the >>>>>&g
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Did this 5220 replace your legend? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I can confirm with the iPhone 6s+ running IOS beta 10 the lag is almost non > existent when paired with the new Plantronics 5220. I’m not sure if it’s the > phone or the headset taking the difference but the combination is pretty > snappy. > >> On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >> >> Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the Griffin device has >> a 3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone using Bluetooth >> 4.1. So depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone 7, we could hit the >> latency issues that we all know about with VO and BT devices. >> If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a work-around >> of sorts, although of course you've then got yourself in the position where >> you have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack charged, which hardly represents >> progress. For people who keep VO talking for long periods, time between >> charges may not be that long. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >>> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone >>> jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this issue. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: >>>> >>>> Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any >>>> 3.5MM headphone in to a blue tooth set. They will sell it for 19.99 I >>>> believe. >>>> >>>> https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter >>>> >>>> This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at >>>> least someone is trying. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in >>>> >>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! >>>> >>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who >>>>> had a dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both >>>>> lightning port and 3.5mm jack. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen : >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a >>>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope >>>>>> the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did >>>>>> this and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New >>>>>> Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably >>>>>> livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want >>>>>> this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most >>>>>> people of upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone >>>>>> jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out. >>>>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, >>>>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started >>>>>> blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm >>>>>> at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to >>>>>> think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of >>>>>> the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess >>>>>> I would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can >>>>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, >>>>>> even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a >>>>>> stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really >>>>>> upsetting.
