Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-21 Thread Daniel Hawkins
That’s an ouch! Whell somebody just wasted $1,000 for a Surface Pro. Wait! NVDA 
to the rescue! lol.

Maybe partnered with MS it will be slipstreamed in Windows 9? Hopfully!
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On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:40 PM, David Tanner  wrote:

> One thing that may be a bit of an issue is that looking at Jaws, NVDA, 
> Window-Eyes and even adding System Access to the list, Window-Eyes is the 
> only one out of the four that apparently has no ability to be used on a 
> Windows 8 tablet.  That may be an issue that Microsoft hasn’t taken into 
> consideration.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM
> To: Mac Visionary
> Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader 
> built in
>  
> Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time. But in a way Microsoft is trying 
> to catch up, their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM based Windows 8 apps 
> and are cross platforms. Apple are slowly intregrating IOS and Mac. And 
> Google have the Chromebook.
>  
> As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can bridge the gap between Intel 
> based OS it will be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM bsed 
> OS.
>  
> So in that case, I still think the three major screenreaders will be 
> around.Unless JAWS can’t keep their contracts, they will be forced to lower 
> their prices, so we will see.
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> On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey guys,  Another thing has occurred to me about this.  As you know, 
> window-eyes has been under developed for several years.  You might not be 
> aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016.  
> Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per year.  
> April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years.  In 2012 
> smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the United 
> States.  In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to out sell 
> the personal computer in 2014.  
>  
> It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but they 
> are both already in the mobile space.  Where do jaws, Window-eyes, and even 
> NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market?  Especially with 
> IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility choices and new 
> accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete with the other two 
> leading mobile platforms.
>  
> Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for access 
> to windows?  How many market leading companies raced to add accessibility 
> features.  Let's see…  henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice computers, artic, 
> dolphin, AISquared…  How many of those companies, most of whom are still with 
> us, have competed for anything in the mobile space?  AISquared, codefactory, 
> that's all I can think of.  Humanware and AFB have stepped into the mobile 
> space but their efforts have met with mixed success.
>  
> Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares of 
> the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind people 
> could somewhat use it.
>  
> Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the 
> window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep as 
> much value in the product as possible for as long as possible?  I'm sure Dan 
> and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages  So do Eric and the other 
> FS bigwigs.  These people aren't showing the drive to innovate that they once 
> did.  They are in fact, stodgy.  What has GW done for us lately?  Proprietary 
> desktop applications  for skype and facebook, both of which are much more 
> accessible in the mobile space to begin with and both of which are better 
> suited to the mobile space than the desktop space IMHO.  It's GW's attempt to 
> coast through for another couple of years until the pc space evaporates and 
> the heads can retire.
>  
> All speculation on my part.  I loved  window-eyes when it was on the cutting 
> edge.  I just don't see it now though.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Erik Burggraaf
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> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>  
> On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, "Christina C." 

Re: Switching Between Docs In iText Express On A Mac Air

2014-01-21 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Do you mean switching between applications? If so, cmd tab will do the trick. 
If not, maybe I am not getting the question.
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On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello Folks,
> 
> I am hoping someone can assist me in using iTex Express in switching between 
> 2 or more files that are opened on my Air. I am using ML. I am viewing one 
> document and need to make notes for training purposes. This feature I am 
> well-acquainted with on the PC side and I was wondering if it exists on the 
> Mac side. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to accomplish this. 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Eileen
> 
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Re: Switching Between Docs In iText Express On A Mac Air

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Do you have a Macbook keyboard? Or do you have FM enabled?

If not if you want to cycle thru the windows, press VO FM and press F2 twice 
quickly. If you press F1 twice quickly it will show you all the apps open.
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On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'll try this too. What my sighted son recommended was to use the window 
> chooser (VO-F2 twice for us). The behavior of CMD-TAB relates to ALT-TAB on 
> the PC. However, when I used this keystroke it just cycled between the opened 
> applications and not the opened iText Express doc files. So, I'm left with 
> the method which I first stated above. It's just getting use to the 
> environment that works on the Mac. 
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Do you mean switching between applications? If so, cmd tab will do the 
>> trick. If not, maybe I am not getting the question.
>> Daniel Hawkins
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>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Eileens Misrahi  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Folks,
>>> 
>>> I am hoping someone can assist me in using iTex Express in switching 
>>> between 2 or more files that are opened on my Air. I am using ML. I am 
>>> viewing one document and need to make notes for training purposes. This 
>>> feature I am well-acquainted with on the PC side and I was wondering if it 
>>> exists on the Mac side. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to 
>>> accomplish this. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: a few more questions about the Mac

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello Scott,

If you hold the power button for 4 seconds the popup box to shutdown or restart 
popup.

If you want VO commands press VO which is ctrl, options, and h twice quickly. 
that is the list of VO commands, if you press VO h once that is a list of other 
helpful VO tips.

As a Mac user I have a MacbookPro, I rarely shut down my Mac. Mac runs more 
stable than Windows  usually is due to better drivers.


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On Jan 22, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

> Hi Scott!
> if you mean a macbook pro then my power button is in the upper right corner.
> If you mean a mac pro I really don't know.  I don't know anybody that owns 
> one but they are great computers.
> Jim
> 
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Scott B.  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> I have a few more questions about the Mac.
>> 
>> 1.  So when I look at the Mac Pro is the button to turn on the Pro at the 
>> top left or right?
>> 
>> 2.  In Mavericks how do I put my computer to sleep?
>> 
>> 3.  Does anyone know does Apple recommend shutting down the computer every 
>> night or can I keep it on.  My Windows PC I shut down once a week cause it 
>> seems like I am always on it.
>> 
>> 4.  Is there any newer VO docs than the Mountain Lion list of VO keys?  Like 
>> is there any documentation for VO specific in Mavericks?
>> 
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Free accessable rss reader on the Mac.

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
hello Listers,

I have NewsIsy on my iPhone and I’m am using Feedly. However, I want to use the 
Mac to also read up my RSS feeds. So does anyone know any free accessable RSS 
readers on the Mac? I know CueFeed is accessable but last I checked it costs 
$30.

Also, on Safari, there is a button, “add to reading list” does anyone know what 
that does? That is not the same as a Rss reader?

Thanks!
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Re: Switching Between Docs In iText Express On A Mac Air

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Ok, cool that will work. Have you checked Toolbar and looked under windows? 
Sometimes you can quickly switch btween windows by hitting cmd 1,2, etc. But 
that is not always the case.
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On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>  
> I think I have the FN key enable because I use it with combinations with the 
> function keys on the top row. What I have done is use the FN-F2 twice to 
> bring up the window chooser and select the document that I  want to reopen. I 
> guess I can relate the window chooser on the Air to the task bar on the PC, 
> but then I am able to use the windows key plus a number associated with the 
> software on the task bar. If I analyze it, it’s probably only 1 more 
> keystroke on the Mac side.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Eileen
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins
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> To: Mac Visionary
> Subject: Re: Switching Between Docs In iText Express On A Mac Air
>  
> Do you have a Macbook keyboard? Or do you have FM enabled?
>  
> If not if you want to cycle thru the windows, press VO FM and press F2 twice 
> quickly. If you press F1 twice quickly it will show you all the apps open.
> Daniel Hawkins
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> On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Eileens Misrahi  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I'll try this too. What my sighted son recommended was to use the window 
> chooser (VO-F2 twice for us). The behavior of CMD-TAB relates to ALT-TAB on 
> the PC. However, when I used this keystroke it just cycled between the opened 
> applications and not the opened iText Express doc files. So, I'm left with 
> the method which I first stated above. It's just getting use to the 
> environment that works on the Mac. 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> 
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean switching between applications? If so, cmd tab will do the trick. 
> If not, maybe I am not getting the question.
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> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Folks,
> 
> I am hoping someone can assist me in using iTex Express in switching between 
> 2 or more files that are opened on my Air. I am using ML. I am viewing one 
> document and need to make notes for training purposes. This feature I am 
> well-acquainted with on the PC side and I was wondering if it exists on the 
> Mac side. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to accomplish this. 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Eileen
> 
> 
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Re: Free accessable rss reader on the Mac.

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Thanks! I tried Readkit earlier today and it said on the Mac store $6.99. I 
will check the Appleton link and see if there is a free version there.

thanks!
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On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:21 AM, isaac  wrote:

> I checked arround applevis and the rss news readers including read kit are 
> payed apps.
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> hello Listers,
>> 
>> I have NewsIsy on my iPhone and I’m am using Feedly. However, I want to use 
>> the Mac to also read up my RSS feeds. So does anyone know any free 
>> accessable RSS readers on the Mac? I know CueFeed is accessable but last I 
>> checked it costs $30.
>> 
>> Also, on Safari, there is a button, “add to reading list” does anyone know 
>> what that does? That is not the same as a Rss reader?
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: Magic Track Pad and iTunes Gesture

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hmm. Not pertaining about iTunes, but if you hit VO and h twice and go down you 
can see all trackpad commands
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On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all, 
> 
> I am trying to use the track pad more, and amazingly I can’t seem to find any 
> documents on the web for using the track pad and iTunes specifically. I am 
> using VoiceOver and have played around with the trackpad, and know there has 
> got to be more, as I can’t figure out how to use the track pad to play a 
> song. On the keyboard in iTunes you just hit enter and the song plays. Would 
> have thought there was a simple track pad command to play a song, but haven’t 
> figured it out. Does anyone have a list of trackpad commands with iTunes? 
> Thanks
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Re: Keyboard commands in Mavericks

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
HOld down VO and hit h twice, scroll down and you will see keyboard commands, 
just go right and ta-da~
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On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> Hello:
> Is there a list of keyboard commands in Mavericks available somewhere?
> I know that some of them have changed.
> 
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Re: Magic Track Pad and iTunes Gesture

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
You will have to doubletap, then interact, then flick right untill you see 
play, then doubletap
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On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Jessica, That is what I would have thought, but with the Magic Track Pad 
> for the iMac tapping twice on the track pad does not play a song, does 
> nothing.
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> with trackpad commander on, it's as simple as a single finger double tap.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all, 
>>> 
>>> I am trying to use the track pad more, and amazingly I can’t seem to find 
>>> any documents on the web for using the track pad and iTunes specifically. I 
>>> am using VoiceOver and have played around with the trackpad, and know there 
>>> has got to be more, as I can’t figure out how to use the track pad to play 
>>> a song. On the keyboard in iTunes you just hit enter and the song plays. 
>>> Would have thought there was a simple track pad command to play a song, but 
>>> haven’t figured it out. Does anyone have a list of trackpad commands with 
>>> iTunes? Thanks
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Re: Magic Track Pad and iTunes Gesture

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
As far as choosing a song, you will have to do that. Maybe using  the Mini 
player will be easier.
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On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> I have my track pad set to automatically interact with things. Maybe that 
> would help.
> On 23/01/2014, at 7:28 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Seriously. You have to do all that just to get a song to play? If that is 
>> the case, I guess I will just stick with the keyboard. Would have thought it 
>> was as simple as double tapping with one finger, as track pad claims doing 
>> so performs the default action, so not sure why in the world that wouldn’t 
>> be playing the track, as single finger double tapping does absolutely 
>> nothing, not sure if there is a setting I need to change.
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> You will have to doubletap, then interact, then flick right untill you see 
>>> play, then doubletap
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>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey Jessica, That is what I would have thought, but with the Magic Track 
>>>> Pad for the iMac tapping twice on the track pad does not play a song, does 
>>>> nothing.
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> with trackpad commander on, it's as simple as a single finger double tap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Brian Fischler  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am trying to use the track pad more, and amazingly I can’t seem to 
>>>>>> find any documents on the web for using the track pad and iTunes 
>>>>>> specifically. I am using VoiceOver and have played around with the 
>>>>>> trackpad, and know there has got to be more, as I can’t figure out how 
>>>>>> to use the track pad to play a song. On the keyboard in iTunes you just 
>>>>>> hit enter and the song plays. Would have thought there was a simple 
>>>>>> track pad command to play a song, but haven’t figured it out. Does 
>>>>>> anyone have a list of trackpad commands with iTunes? Thanks
>>>>>> 
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Re: Splitting keyboard on an iPad

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I don’t know a command, but if you do a pinch out on the keyboard, it will 
split. Sorta like taking your fingers and spreading it apart, like sighted 
people do to zooom in.
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On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I am in the process of helping someone set up an iPad free for an elderly 
> lady with low vision. I think she might need the feature of splitting the 
> keyboard so that you can use two hands to type with. I think she may need 
> voice over part time, and maybe later full time.  I understand that her 
> vision loss is progressive. DWhat is the command for doing that?
> Sincerely,
> Gigi
> 
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Re: saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello April,

If you made a Pages doc, and want to save it to MS Word, you will have to 
export it to MS Office. Lasttime I checked the export dialouge in Pages and 
Numbers was not accessable by VO with the new iWork. So what I did was open it 
up in my iPhone and export there on the iCloud.
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 6:34 AM, April Brown  wrote:

> It doesn't work here.  It claims to be a potential security issue.  I have 
> screenshots saved.  No idea how to add a screen shot to a message on the 
> message board. 
> 
> Of course, I've not even had my computer for a month yet, so I may have a 
> different version of Pages.
> 
> And when I try to open a Pages document on the old Windows computer, it won't 
> open, a it is a folder and a separate document beside it.
> 
> Have to keep that, until I get all of nine months important Outlook emails 
> converted to text, and a step by step  VoiceOver guide created, so I can use 
> VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:19:32 PM UTC-5, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Sending Pages documents via eMail will send it as a .pages document just 
> fine.  I tested a few minutes ago with a Pages document from my Gmail account 
> to my work account and the document came through perfectly as a Pages 
> document which opened properly.  It should be no different for any regular 
> documents.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> The MIME format used to encode email attachments has no structure for 
>> folders so to attach a folder of files many email apps will zip them into a 
>> single file and then send that as an attachment. That said, a Word doc 
>> usually is one monolithic file so unless you somehow picked the containing 
>> folder rather than the exported word doc the mail app shouldn't be applying 
>> zip to your attachment. Now a pages document actually is a folder so if you 
>> somehow are attaching a Pages doc and not the converted Word version that 
>> would explain it.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/22/14 6:35 AM, Jessica D wrote:
>>> it is just one file.
>>> why would apple mail zip files and not tell you? i have never seen this as 
>>> an issue before.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you have the file selected you can do a command-I to get info on the 
>>>> file and the Size field will tell you how big it is. In general 10MB and 
>>>> under should go through ok with most email providers. The internet 
>>>> standards for MIME encoded attachments have no size limits but that 
>>>> doesn't mean one service provider or another doesn't impose one. MIME also 
>>>> adds about a third again of overhead so emailing a 3MB file will take 
>>>> about 4MB of space, pushing you over the 10MB limit sooner. I know Outlook 
>>>> and some other email clients have options to automatically zip attachments 
>>>> but I was unaware of Apple Mail doing this. I have heard it will zip a 
>>>> folder. Are you attaching the actual file or a folder of files?
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/21/14 5:27 PM, Jessica D wrote:
>>>>> i have no clue, how would i find out?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How big are the files you are trying to send? Maybe something is trying 
>>>>>> to 'help' you along the way by zipping the files.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/21/14 5:04 PM, Jess wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I am having extreme difficulty sending word and/or excel files to 
>>>>>>> people who have older versions of windows. It sends them as .zip files 
>>>>>>> instead of .xls, csv, or .doc. why could this be?
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>> I walk by faith, not by sight.
>>>>>>> 2 Corinthians 5: 7
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Re: Splitting keyboard on an iPad

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Just an idea, have a HDMI cord hooked up to the iPad so she can see it on the 
bigger tv if she have one. So she can learn the layout, as she slowly learn 
Voiceover.
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Ok, I think that will work ok. I'm going to talk to him tomorrow about taking 
> this iPad out of his Apple ID and setting up another one for his aunt. That 
> way, she can do whatever on her iPad without messing up his devices. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately, you can't move icons like that. Using Zoom you can enlarge 
>> the screen, but icons will always fill home screens to the right and down. 
>> You can move icons wherever you like on Android, but not iOS. That said, you 
>> could always just have a bunch of folders or home screens with only a few 
>> icons each.
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Alex. I am going to be helping this lady's nephew tomorrow. He's got 
>>> three different iPads, the highest of which is an iPad 3. I'm going to talk 
>>> him into giving this one to his aunt so that she can have dictation and 
>>> Siri. 
>>> 
>>> You guys with low vision correct if I'm wrong, please, but I thought that 
>>> because she's very elderly also, that we could move the icons around on the 
>>> iPad so that they would be separated and make them bigger. I even thought 
>>> about moving them so that they are in the corners of the iPad so that when 
>>> her vision gets worse she can know where they are. We can switch her to the 
>>> iPhone if we have to if she goes totally blind or pose to it. She has got 
>>> an iMac that somebody gave her, and I thought that she could use it for 
>>> looking at her pictures on her big screen. Her nephew is a computer guru, 
>>> so I'm just giving him a crash course in VoiceOver. 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Either way is fine. It is the same gesture used to activate the back 
>>>> button, so however you do that will work here. This requires Voiceover to 
>>>> be on - if it is off, the pinch out will split the keyboard, and the pinch 
>>>> in will join it.
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Alex
>>>>> Excuse me for being a little dance here, but does that mean scrub from 
>>>>> top to bottom or does that mean scrub from left to right when the 
>>>>> keyboard is up?
>>>>> Gigi
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> While focused in the edit field, with the keyboard visible, do a 
>>>>>> two-finger scrub. That should toggle the keyboard's split mode.
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>> I am in the process of helping someone set up an iPad free for an 
>>>>>>> elderly lady with low vision. I think she might need the feature of 
>>>>>>> splitting the keyboard so that you can use two hands to type with. I 
>>>>>>> think she may need voice over part time, and maybe later full time.  I 
>>>>>>> understand that her vision loss is progressive. DWhat is the command 
>>>>>>> for doing that?
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>

Re: a simple, but important iphone question?

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Yes, you can, depends how fast you at flicking left or right, or finding the 
dial numbers. Yes, it is slightly slower than what a sighted person can do.

If you are dialing a number and you know you will have to press 1 for english, 
press 4 for your next option. You can save it to your contacts with a comma or 
two for a few second delay and add the menu number. Say for example put the 
number 8004561234,1,4 and that will choose the menu options automatically for 
you, and you don’t have to do anything.

This is how I save my bus scheduling number. I just put my bus number and put a 
comma then what ever menu option that you know you wanted. And you can do this 
with banks with your account number.
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I read often that it is difficult if not impossible to dial in a traditional 
> way using an iphone.
> here is a simple example.
> Let's say you are traveling, you must dial a location, then a user number, 
> then an  a password.  you then must make a series of choices from a menu.
> these choices change based on information  presented.
> I realize many of you use your iphone for a number of different things.
> However, I am asking about this specific task.  can it be done often with 
> changing flexibility and effortlessly?
> Thanks,
> Karen
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Re: saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
April,

Oh! You mean sending via email. Yes, since the new iWork update, Gmail won’t 
reconize the new file format. Gmail have not updated yet, so it see it as a 
security threat.
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:51 AM, April Brown  wrote:

> I realize I wouldn't be able to open it on my Windows machine without 
> changing it.  Thanks for easy to follow directions.
> 
> However, I still couldn't email  Pages document to my husband's Mac, same age 
> as mine, under a month old.  In fact, the email wouldn't send because it 
> thought the document was a suspicious file.  Maybe some setting is set wrong. 
>  I don't know.  I just know Pages and Numbers documents cannot be attached to 
> email on either of our Macs.
> 
> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:04:42 AM UTC-5, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi April,
> 
> First thing to note is that your Windows machine will not be able to open a 
> .Pages document unless you have first made it into a different format 
> readable by whatever application you have on your Windows machine.  
> Similarly, if you don’t have the Pages app on a different Mac, then you won’t 
> be able to open that document on the other Mac either.  On the Mac, you can 
> set Pages to automatically open MSWord documents but the opposite isn’t true 
> on Windows, MSWord will not open a Pages document at all.  So, for example, 
> if you have MSWord on your Windows machine, then you’ll need to export your 
> Pages document into Word format.  To accomplish this:
> 
> 1.  Open your Pages document on your Mac.
> 2.  VO-m to access the menubar.
> 3.  VO-right to the File menu.
> 4.  VO-down to the Export item, which includes a sub-menu.
> 5.  VO-right to activate the sub-menu.
> 6.  VO-down to the Word option.
> 7.  Press return twice.
> 
> The first return brings up the Export menu in case you wish to change your 
> mind on the format and the second return will bring you to the saving dialog. 
>  The Export dialog has a few Unknowns in it but if you Interact with them, 
> you will see what they pertain to, although you simply need to press return 
> the second time if you chose the correct format from the sub-menu.  You will 
> note that the filename will be the same as what you’ve named it in Pages but 
> will have a .DOCX as the extension.
> 
> 8.  Choose your destination from within the Save dialog and a Word document 
> will be created.
> 
> This Word document can be eMailed or copied to other media and put into a 
> different computer that has the Word application.  To eMail it, do the 
> following:
> 
> 1.  Open a new message in Mail.
> 2.  Adress and Subject the message.
> 3.  Put in any text in the message area.
> 4.  Press cmd-shift-a to Attach a file.
> 5.  Locate the file from the Attach/Open dialog and press return to attach it.
> 
> An item will be placed into your message letting you know the name of the 
> newly attached file.
> 
> 6.  Send it.
> 
> The recipient should receive your message with the attached Word file and as 
> long as they have Word on their machine, they should be good to go.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 5:34 AM, April Brown  wrote:
> 
>> It doesn't work here.  It claims to be a potential security issue.  I have 
>> screenshots saved.  No idea how to add a screen shot to a message on the 
>> message board. 
>> 
>> Of course, I've not even had my computer for a month yet, so I may have a 
>> different version of Pages.
>> 
>> And when I try to open a Pages document on the old Windows computer, it 
>> won't open, a it is a folder and a separate document beside it.
>> 
>> Have to keep that, until I get all of nine months important Outlook emails 
>> converted to text, and a step by step  VoiceOver guide created, so I can use 
>> VoiceOver.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:19:32 PM UTC-5, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sending Pages documents via eMail will send it as a .pages document just 
>> fine.  I tested a few minutes ago with a Pages document from my Gmail 
>> account to my work account and the document came through perfectly as a 
>> Pages document which opened properly.  It should be no different for any 
>> regular documents.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> The MIME format used to encode email attachments has no structure 

Re: Splitting keyboard on an iPad

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Alex,

Can you airplay the home screen and every single app on the iPad? That’s why I 
said HDMI, in that way, everything on the iPad or iPhone can be displayed on 
the bigscreen.
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> HDMI is a good idea, but why not go wireless? Get an Apple TV, and Airplay 
> the iPad to the big screen (you'll need to check on the iPad models that can 
> do this, but I think the 3 can). No wires, and the Apple TV can be useful in 
> and of itself. Or, I think there are apps that let Mac computers emulate 
> Airplay receivers, letting you mirror your iPad to the iMac. Just something 
> to think about.
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> I will mention that to her nephew. He has said more than once that money is 
>> not an issue here. So, he can go and get her a brand spanking new iPad with 
>> all the trimmings if he wants. She must be his favorite aunt because he is 
>> going all out here for her. She's lucky. 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just an idea, have a HDMI cord hooked up to the iPad so she can see it on 
>>> the bigger tv if she have one. So she can learn the layout, as she slowly 
>>> learn Voiceover.
>>> Daniel Hawkins
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>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ok, I think that will work ok. I'm going to talk to him tomorrow about 
>>>> taking this iPad out of his Apple ID and setting up another one for his 
>>>> aunt. That way, she can do whatever on her iPad without messing up his 
>>>> devices. 
>>>> 
>>>> Gigi 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately, you can't move icons like that. Using Zoom you can enlarge 
>>>>> the screen, but icons will always fill home screens to the right and 
>>>>> down. You can move icons wherever you like on Android, but not iOS. That 
>>>>> said, you could always just have a bunch of folders or home screens with 
>>>>> only a few icons each.
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Alex. I am going to be helping this lady's nephew tomorrow. He's 
>>>>>> got three different iPads, the highest of which is an iPad 3. I'm going 
>>>>>> to talk him into giving this one to his aunt so that she can have 
>>>>>> dictation and Siri. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You guys with low vision correct if I'm wrong, please, but I thought 
>>>>>> that because she's very elderly also, that we could move the icons 
>>>>>> around on the iPad so that they would be separated and make them bigger. 
>>>>>> I even thought about moving them so that they are in the corners of the 
>>>>>> iPad so that when her vision gets worse she can know where they are. We 
>>>>>> can switch her to the iPhone if we have to if she goes totally blind or 
>>>>>> pose to it. She has got an iMac that somebody gave her, and I thought 
>>>>>> that she could use it for looking at her pictures on her big screen. Her 
>>>>>> nephew is a computer guru, so I'm just giving him a crash course in 
>>>>>> VoiceOver. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards, 
>>>>>> Gigi 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Either way is fine. It is the same gesture used to activate the back 
>>>>>>> button, so however you do that will work here. This requires Voiceover 
>>>>>>> to be on - if it is off, the pinch out will split the keyboard, and the 
>>>>>>> pinch in will join it.
>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Alex
>>>>>>>> Excuse me for being a little dance here, but does that mean scrub from 
>>>>>>>&

Re: a simple, but important iphone question?

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
LOL, I for one have a hearingaid and use a bluetooth device called a Compilot. 
I pretty much have this on when I’m awake. Noone around here hears my iPhone or 
my Mac. I loved this feature so much that I can’t live without it.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Robert C  wrote:

> Karen,
>   Its a Voiceover feature, accessed by using the rotor when in an edit field 
> or the keypad. If you can try it, then you can judge whethger it will work 
> for you or not. Its quicker than standard typing.
> 
>   Keep watching those tage, I have many. LOL
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
> "It is time I stepped aside for a less experienced and less able man."
> --Scott Elledge, on his retirement as a Professor at Cornell
> Robert & Dreamer Doll  ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
> 
> On 1/23/2014 9:59 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> I have no idea as I do not own the phone.
>> which models does this option exist on?  I can check, even if just for
>> kicks.
>> smiling at your tag line.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Robert C wrote:
>> 
>>> Karen,
>>>   Does putting the keypad into touch typing mode help any?
>>> 
>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>> Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels good.
>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll  ke7nwn
>>> E-mail-
>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On 1/23/2014 8:26 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> oh and I forgot an element, using no earphones whatsoever?
>>>> my phone is a phone, I hold it to my ear, I want the speech in my
>>>> ear etc.
>>>> Thanks for your input,
>>>> it is not a matter of the computer voices not shutting up.  it is a
>>>> matter of the iphone providing the equal of touch tone information that
>>>> another system recognizes.
>>>> wanted to clarify since this is a 100% deal breaker for me.
>>>> I do not want to require an ear piece every time I make one of these
>>>> calls when working between appointments.  equally I do not want my
>>>> phone
>>>> talking in a fashion where others can hear.
>>>> thanks for the wisdom.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> Karen
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >  Karen, based on what I understand you are saying, you should be able
>>>> >  to do it. I used to have more problems with that, but that got
>>>> >  corrected. Now they on screen keyboard comes up and you can hear
>>>> >  VoiceOver while those awful computers are still talking and won't
>>>> shut
>>>> >  up. I have found it sometimes to be a little easier to use the
>>>> >  earphones, but that's not essential. Like I said, this used to be a
>>>> >  problem, and I think that's why you were told it couldn't be
>>>> easily >  done.
>>>> > >  Regards,
>>>> >  Gigi
>>>> > > >  On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Karen Lewellen
>>>> >   wrote:
>>>> > > >  Hi folks,
>>>> > >  I read often that it is difficult if not impossible to dial in a
>>>> > >  traditional way using an iphone.
>>>> > >  here is a simple example.
>>>> > >  Let's say you are traveling, you must dial a location, then a user
>>>> > >  number, then an  a password.  you then must make a series of
>>>> choices
>>>> > >  from a menu.
>>>> > >  these choices change based on information  presented.
>>>> > >  I realize many of you use your iphone for a number of different
>>>> > >  things.
>>>> > >  However, I am asking about this specific task.  can it be done
>>>> often
>>>> > >  with changing flexibility and effortlessly?
>>>> > >  Thanks,
>>>> > >  Karen
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Re: Splitting keyboard on an iPad

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
LOL, If you look at Amazon, you can get a HDMI adapter and a HDMI 15 foot cord 
both for around $15 bucks. Google Chromecast only play what’s in the 
webbrowser, not everything on the screen.

I did see somewhere that there is an adapter that is wireless that is $99 and 
should play everything on the screen. But I forgot what it was.
Daniel Hawkins
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2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Airplay, no. However, there is a feature that lets you mirror your screen 
> (which is, to my understanding, different from Airplay but uses the same 
> technology). I don't know the specifics as I can't see well enough to use it 
> all, and don't have an iPad or Apple TV. Google will, I'm sure, have plenty 
> to say on the subject. Besides, if she can't use the Apple TV, it'll make 
> someone else a really great birthday present, and she can switch to a wired 
> solution for $30 or $40. An expensive adapter, to be sure, but that's Apple 
> for you. :)
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Alex,
>> 
>> Can you airplay the home screen and every single app on the iPad? That’s why 
>> I said HDMI, in that way, everything on the iPad or iPhone can be displayed 
>> on the bigscreen.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> HDMI is a good idea, but why not go wireless? Get an Apple TV, and Airplay 
>>> the iPad to the big screen (you'll need to check on the iPad models that 
>>> can do this, but I think the 3 can). No wires, and the Apple TV can be 
>>> useful in and of itself. Or, I think there are apps that let Mac computers 
>>> emulate Airplay receivers, letting you mirror your iPad to the iMac. Just 
>>> something to think about.
>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I will mention that to her nephew. He has said more than once that money 
>>>> is not an issue here. So, he can go and get her a brand spanking new iPad 
>>>> with all the trimmings if he wants. She must be his favorite aunt because 
>>>> he is going all out here for her. She's lucky. 
>>>> 
>>>> Gigi 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just an idea, have a HDMI cord hooked up to the iPad so she can see it on 
>>>>> the bigger tv if she have one. So she can learn the layout, as she slowly 
>>>>> learn Voiceover.
>>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>>>> 4GB DDR3
>>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dual Boot:
>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, I think that will work ok. I'm going to talk to him tomorrow about 
>>>>>> taking this iPad out of his Apple ID and setting up another one for his 
>>>>>> aunt. That way, she can do whatever on her iPad without messing up his 
>>>>>> devices. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gigi 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you can't move icons like that. Using Zoom you can 
>>>>>>> enlarge the screen, but icons will always fill home screens to the 
>>>>>>> right and down. You can move icons wherever you like on Android, but 
>>>>>>> not iOS. That said, you could always just have a bunch of folders or 
>>>>>>> home screens with only a few icons each.
>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex. I am going to be helping this lady's nephew tomorrow. 
>>>>>>>> He's got three different iPads, the highest of which is an iPad 3. I'm 
>>>>>>>> going to talk him into giving this one to his aunt so that she can 
>>>>>>>> have 

Re: saving files in different formats and also how to move them from one location to another under mavericks

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hmmm.  I just created  anew Pages document, sent it to and from Gmail via one 
of my non-GMail accounts and it worked every time.  I looked in Mail Prefs and 
couldn’t see anything that to do with attachments that could be messing with 
this.  Now, I attach files by pressing cmd-shift-a which brings up the dialog, 
are you using the same method or are you dragging it from somewhere into the 
body of the message?

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Well, this was a Macworld article I read but maybe that issue was taken care 
> of or there is some other relevant variable.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As I mentioned yesterday, I send and have sent the newest Pages documents 
>> via eMail without issue.  In fact, I sent a document yesterday for fun from 
>> my Gmail account to my work account, which is a Google Apps for Education 
>> account, so Gmail as well and it sent and was delivered without incident.
>> 
>> I will look at my settings a little closer to see if there’s something 
>> within there that could be causing others’ problems.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> April,
>>> 
>>> Oh! You mean sending via email. Yes, since the new iWork update, Gmail 
>>> won’t reconize the new file format. Gmail have not updated yet, so it see 
>>> it as a security threat.
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>> 4GB DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:51 AM, April Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I realize I wouldn't be able to open it on my Windows machine without 
>>>> changing it.  Thanks for easy to follow directions.
>>>> 
>>>> However, I still couldn't email  Pages document to my husband's Mac, same 
>>>> age as mine, under a month old.  In fact, the email wouldn't send because 
>>>> it thought the document was a suspicious file.  Maybe some setting is set 
>>>> wrong.  I don't know.  I just know Pages and Numbers documents cannot be 
>>>> attached to email on either of our Macs.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:04:42 AM UTC-5, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>> Hi April,
>>>> 
>>>> First thing to note is that your Windows machine will not be able to open 
>>>> a .Pages document unless you have first made it into a different format 
>>>> readable by whatever application you have on your Windows machine.  
>>>> Similarly, if you don’t have the Pages app on a different Mac, then you 
>>>> won’t be able to open that document on the other Mac either.  On the Mac, 
>>>> you can set Pages to automatically open MSWord documents but the opposite 
>>>> isn’t true on Windows, MSWord will not open a Pages document at all.  So, 
>>>> for example, if you have MSWord on your Windows machine, then you’ll need 
>>>> to export your Pages document into Word format.  To accomplish this:
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Open your Pages document on your Mac.
>>>> 2.  VO-m to access the menubar.
>>>> 3.  VO-right to the File menu.
>>>> 4.  VO-down to the Export item, which includes a sub-menu.
>>>> 5.  VO-right to activate the sub-menu.
>>>> 6.  VO-down to the Word option.
>>>> 7.  Press return twice.
>>>> 
>>>> The first return brings up the Export menu in case you wish to change your 
>>>> mind on the format and the second return will bring you to the saving 
>>>> dialog.  The Export dialog has a few Unknowns in it but if you Interact 
>>>> with them, you will see what they pertain to, although you simply need to 
>>>> press return the second time if you chose t

Re: Preported new VO support on iCloud-based iWork suite

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Yes! they fixed the Export dialouge problem! I can now export Numbers and Pages 
files.
Daniel Hawkins
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iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo 
 wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Apple has partially updated iWork for iCloud. You can see changes only on 
> document selector, they haven't updated the rest yet
> 
> Regards,
> El 23/01/2014, a las 23:32, Alex Hall  escribió:
> 
>> Are you sure? It come up, it lists documents (well, the one blank one I 
>> made), and I see no warnings about anything. I wonder if that restriction 
>> was removed when iWork went free for new iOS7 and Mavericks machines?
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>>> You cannot use the online version without the mac or ios version.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> VO automatically interacts with html areas when pages load, so I know I am 
>>>> on the page. I have a whole bunch of formatting options, style and spacing 
>>>> settings, and even a toolbar, along with a disturbingly large number of 
>>>> unlabeled buttons. However, there is no empty edit field for me to type 
>>>> text. Where in the mess of unlabeled controls and labeled, but still 
>>>> disorganized, items is the edit field hiding? Am I in the wrong place 
>>>> somehow? I thought maybe there were multiple frames, but uninteracting 
>>>> with the place I'm in now takes me out of the webpage entirely. I must be 
>>>> missing something obvious here, but I can't imagine what. Thanks for any 
>>>> help anyone can provide. I don't own Pages for iOS or mac, as I rarely 
>>>> need to use it and it is 430 I can better spend elsewhere, but I thought 
>>>> I'd give the online version a shot to see if it is viable.
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The voiceover support is indeed there.  You have to interact with an html 
>>>>> content area after you've decided to create the document.  The VO support 
>>>>> is not perfect, as there is a bit of a delay when editing a document, but 
>>>>> it does work at the very least adequate enough so that one can edit a 
>>>>> document if it is shared etc.   Again, If I were editing a document, I 
>>>>> would primarily use pages/numbers on my mac.  However, if I need to 
>>>>> access the document that I'd been working on from another computer, this 
>>>>> would definitely suffice.
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Today, Apple rolled out an update to iWork on iCloud.com. One 
>>>>>> improvement they claim to have made is better Voiceover support. I tried 
>>>>>> creating a document just now, and nothing happened. Well, I could see 
>>>>>> all the formatting options, but there was no place to simply type my 
>>>>>> text. Am I missing something obvious, or is the VO support not as good 
>>>>>> as Apple thinks it is? At least they are making an effort to improve 
>>>>>> accessibility, which I applaud. Still, if it isn't there yet, we need to 
>>>>>> let them know. So, if you all could check me on this and make sure I'm 
>>>>>> not doing something wrong, that'd be great. Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I sometimes get that choppynes too. Last night after the update, it was choppy 
for a while. I have No Sleep installed on my Mac, and it sometimes help just 
plug it in and just leave it for a while. 
Daniel Hawkins
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iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Ray,
> 
> Yeah been trying to do everything except that, but might have to try and do 
> that this weekend, as this is just getting ridiculous. My concern would be if 
> I take the time and effort to do that and still have these issues I might 
> blow a gasket. Amazingly, the choppiness hasn't occurred during this email 
> writing so maybe there is a process running when I first wake up my  computer 
> some mornings that I am not aware of that is causing the issue.
> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall.  Back your drives then do 
>> the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive your OS was on.  
>> A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, but, well worth the effort.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to work I 
>>> expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver problems. I 
>>> just did a system repair and all was working fine for two days and now 
>>> VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when reading anything. 
>>> Multiple voices are choppy and it is not just one program where the 
>>> choppiness occurs. I can't read an email all the way through without having 
>>> to use VO and the arrows for all the words I can't understand or VO skips. 
>>> Any ideas? According to Apple customer support and yeah VO just crapped out 
>>> as I typed the word support I have enough RAM for what I am doing, and they 
>>> are clueless to what the issue can be. Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Reading pdf's on the iPad

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
If you are looking for a way to read by line, you can use the rotor command and 
choose the line command and flick down for each line.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Mario Navarro  wrote:

> 
> Yes, go to the apple store and search for tipa  pdf you're going to love!
> tipa pdf is a product created in portugal by tifotecnia.
> the tipa pdf supports inglish language.
> Portuguese and inglish.
> It's cheap and it's fantastic.
> everyone will love.
> It's a great app. ephone, ipad, and ipod touch.
> the best app for reading PDFs and much more!
> cheers.
> 
> A inteligência e a vivacidade da mulher afugentam de ordinário os homens 
> medíocres, cujo orgulho de posse prefere, à beleza vivaz e raciocinadora, a 
> beleza triste, passiva, submissa e silenciosa.
> Júlio Dantas
> 
> Mario Navarro
> mario@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> No dia 24/01/2014, às 17:19, Chad Rohr  escreveu:
> 
>> Is there a way on the iPad to read pdf documents other than it reading the 
>> whole thing at once? Maybe line by line if possible. 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Chad Rohr
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Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello, sorry I was not clear enough. I Work updated, and that what I did 
lastnight.

To the other Daniel, I have a Macbook Pro with a spinning Harddrive, and I 
always get that stutter at startup. My wife have a Macbook Air, and she does 
not get that stutter. I even changed her “Welcome to Voiceover” to I’m Hal 
9000, and I’m taking over the world.” Her Mac sounds well at startup, but mine 
always botches it up at startup. But I have a hunch that I have three apps at 
startups, so I think that may do it too.
Daniel Hawkins
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iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
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NVDA installed

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On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:21 PM, BBS  wrote:

> Hi Daniel. Just curious after your last message. Did Apple release another 
> update to Mavericks or did you say that you just updated to 10.9.1 just last 
> night?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> I sometimes get that choppynes too. Last night after the update, it was 
>> choppy for a while. I have No Sleep installed on my Mac, and it sometimes 
>> help just plug it in and just leave it for a while. 
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Ray,
>>> 
>>> Yeah been trying to do everything except that, but might have to try and do 
>>> that this weekend, as this is just getting ridiculous. My concern would be 
>>> if I take the time and effort to do that and still have these issues I 
>>> might blow a gasket. Amazingly, the choppiness hasn't occurred during this 
>>> email writing so maybe there is a process running when I first wake up my  
>>> computer some mornings that I am not aware of that is causing the issue.
>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall.  Back your drives then 
>>>> do the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive your OS was 
>>>> on.  A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, but, well worth the 
>>>> effort.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>> built-in!
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to work I 
>>>>> expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver problems. I 
>>>>> just did a system repair and all was working fine for two days and now 
>>>>> VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when reading anything. 
>>>>> Multiple voices are choppy and it is not just one program where the 
>>>>> choppiness occurs. I can't read an email all the way through without 
>>>>> having to use VO and the arrows for all the words I can't understand or 
>>>>> VO skips. Any ideas? According to Apple customer support and yeah VO just 
>>>>> crapped out as I typed the word support I have enough RAM for what I am 
>>>>> doing, and they are clueless to what the issue can be. Thanks.
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Re: Keyboard Focus / Voice Over Cursor / Mouse Pointer

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Lee,

I too am slightly confused about this, especially using the Mouse cusor.

>From my understanding they Keyboard cursor is what you use to move around the 
>screen with the keyboard. The VO cursor by default is already with the 
>keyboard cursor. If the VO cursor moves, it will announce what it is. 

So in a way for a sighted person, if you use a mouse you see the arrow, and 
move it around, it don't select anything. But if you have the VO cursor snapped 
to the mouse it will announce anything the mouse pointer moves over. That is 
same as keyboard cursor. So if you tell the VO cursor to stay there, you will 
not hear anything when you navigate throughout the screen.

For example if you are doing instant messageing. You can snap the VO cursor to 
the last message. Then you type you can type without the VO moving, so in that 
way you can get an ongoing conversation instead of having to press VO j to jump 
back n forth.

As for the mouse cursor, I have not yet seen the advantage of it yet. So 
hopefully someone can comment on that.
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On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Lee Jones  wrote:

> Dear List I don't understand the difference between keyboard focus and voice 
> over cursor. What can you do with one that you can't do withthe the other? Do 
> people find mouse keys useful? There are shortcuts for mouse up mouse down, 
> double click etc but I am not sure what they would be used for. In setttings 
> is it best to have keyboard focus vo cursor and mouse pointer following each 
> other or moving separately? I am running mavericks.
>  
> Many Thanks, Lee 
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Re: how to expand folders

2014-01-25 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Looked like I learned something new today. I use the quicknave to interact and 
up and down to open it and deinteract. looks like cmd up or down is much easier.
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On Jan 25, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Depends on the view. In Column View, use cmd-down to open a folder, and 
> cmd-up to close it. In List View, use right arrow to open it and left arrow 
> to close it (sometimes you'll need to hit it twice). I don't recommend the 
> other two Finder views if you are a Voiceover user. also, Voiceover can 
> sometimes cause Finder to hang in List View in the current version of 
> Mavericks.
> On Jan 25, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> VO-backslash should do the trick. Sometimes you can use arrow keys, but the 
>> focus has to be directly on the arrow for it to work. VO-backslash seems to 
>> be a more stable command.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello there,
>>> 
>>> One other question.  How do you expand folders if collapsed?
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Re: My Mac is Back

2014-01-26 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Congrats Alex!

I would suggest, when you install an app, play with your mac then install 
another app. Maybe then you will find the app that was taxing your system.
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On Jan 26, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Hi alex, I noticed that when I did a clean install, the mac was in fact a lot 
> faster than without a clean install. Good luck.
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> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I just wanted to say that the re-install seems to have gone as planned. I 
>> haven't restored any of my apps or files yet, but I have set up Mail, and of 
>> course my mail and contacts and such are here thanks to the magic that is 
>> iCloud and IMAP mail. So far things seem to be moving much faster, but only 
>> time will tell if that continues to be the case. Either way, I got rid of my 
>> dusty old Windows partition and got a chance to refresh this machine after 
>> about two and a half years of use, so thanks to Ray and others for pushing 
>> me to take this step. Now, to go see if my data comes back over from the 
>> Time Machine drive!
>> 
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Re: Mail's Preview Pane Must Go

2014-01-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hmm, I never changed my Mail layout when I updated Maverick. Not sure what the 
Preview does. When I select the message I press Enter, view the messages in the 
thread and then press cmd w to close it.
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On Jan 26, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Thanks, I did it. I don't know if it will stick or not, but for now it seems 
> to have worked.
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Here’s some instructions I sent out back when Mavericks first came out:
>> 
>>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
>>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
>>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
>>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
>>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
>>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>>> physical Trackpad.
>>> 
>>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>>> window.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
>>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>>> 
>>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>>> after the Messages Column Group.
>>> 
>>> If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back 
>>> to the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>>> numerous times.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> after the clean install, of course, Mail’s preview pane seems to be back. I 
>>> know that, in Mavericks, there is quite a process to closing it, and I 
>>> can’t find the splitter I used to use for this purpose. So, at the risk of 
>>> repeating a conversation, how would I go about killing the preview pane? 
>>> I’m in standard mode, by the way. Thanks.
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Re: Mac Minis needing monitors: another thing to add to the pile

2014-01-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I too have No Sleep on my Macbook Pro. I love it since I don’t want my Mac go 
to sleep when i close the lid.
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On Jan 27, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:

> There is a little utility that is available called no sleep that will add 
> some kernel extensions that allow the Macs to operate without a monitor.  
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 4:43 AM, April Brown  wrote:
> 
>> I've actually tuned my tv monitor off and just used the computer.
>> 
>> On Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:40:55 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I just wanted to add one more thing to the debate about Mac Minis needing 
>> monitors. Mine, a mid-2011, still does. That is even after a complete wipe 
>> and re-install, with the latest version of 10.9.
>> 
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Re: Mail's Preview Pane Must Go

2014-01-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Ahh I understand, yeah I get that sometimes too!

I usually read my messages by date first. then if there are any unread I have 
not gotten yet, then I change the listing to unread and read the rest that way. 
So it may not get it in order all the time but that how I get them all read.
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On Jan 27, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> In theory, it stops mail from being marked as "read" when you arrow over it. 
> In practice, though, I went from 20 unread (the accurate count) to 1 unread, 
> despite having read none of those 20 messages. So clearly, something else is 
> happening that is messing with my unread badge.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, I never changed my Mail layout when I updated Maverick. Not sure what 
>> the Preview does. When I select the message I press Enter, view the messages 
>> in the thread and then press cmd w to close it.
>> Daniel Hawkins
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, I did it. I don't know if it will stick or not, but for now it 
>>> seems to have worked.
>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> Here’s some instructions I sent out back when Mavericks first came out:
>>>> 
>>>>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
>>>>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View.
>>>>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs.
>>>>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
>>>>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
>>>>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>>>>> physical Trackpad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>>>>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>>>>> window.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box.
>>>>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by 
>>>>> navigating around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter 
>>>>> before and after the Messages Column Group.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>>>>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back 
>>>>> to the Modern View and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>>>>> numerous times.
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> after the clean install, of course, Mail’s preview pane seems to be back. 
>>>>> I know that, in Mavericks, there is quite a process to closing it, and I 
>>>>> can’t find the splitter I used to use for this purpose. So, at the risk 
>>>>> of repeating a conversation, how would I go about killing the preview 
>>>>> pane? I’m in standard mode, by the way. Thanks.
>>>>> 
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Re: audio and voiceover

2014-01-30 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I have a Macbook Pro. I also want to use my Mac internal speakers as a music, 
while I use VO thru my headphone jack. By default the Main System sound go thru 
the headphone jack if it is plugged in. From what I understand you need a third 
party app to change the default output. Does anyone know what that is?

Thanks!
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On Jan 30, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> If you use your mac as a music server you can do this by opening vo utility - 
> vo + f8, go to sound in the table and tab, at the bottom there are a choice 
> for sending voice over to the internal speakers and possible mini jack for 
> headphones?
> 
> Take care 
> 
> 30. jan. 2014 kl. 12:31 skrev Gene Baroni :
> 
> I want to know if there is a way to have voiceover use my Mac and have audio 
> use my speaker system? I spoke to the accessibility team and they were of the 
> opinion it isn't possible unless you use a third party app. What do you guys 
> think?
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Re: one system dialogue displayed?

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello I usally hit VO FM and F1 twice to bring up the application chooser, 
there you will see warning system message display, or if you at the application 
then hit F2 twice there.
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> Hi. Try hitting CTRL Option f2 twice, and it will bring up the window chooser 
> menu, a d see if its there.
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> On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Vivianna  wrote:
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>> How do i get to this one system dialogue displayed? 
>> thanks much.
>> 
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Re: magnification on the mac

2014-02-05 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hmm, I just downloaded Tinkertool, looks fully accessable by Voiceover. I 
cannot see so but if you go under toolbar and click fronts, and play around 
that.

Here is the download page for Tinkertool

http://www.bresink.com/osx/0TinkerTool/download.php

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On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

> I found this option which seems like it will make all text larger.
> Jim
> http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/enlarge-upper-bar-imac-changing-screen-resolution/
> 
> On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
>> Hi april,
>> I have not much knowledge about this but cant  Zoom do the menu bar 
>> magnification for you?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 05 Feb 2014, at 19:58, April  wrote:
>> 
>>> Not comparable.  
>>> 
>>> On the Mac there is no easy way to enlarge the menu or scrollbars.  Icon 
>>> text can be increased minimally.
>>> 
>>> On the Mac, there seem to be two choices:  
>>> 
>>> 1.  lower the resolution to magnify everything, or 
>>> 2.  use an on screen magnifier, and not be able to read menus without it.  
>>> 
>>> Many Mac programs have individual magnifiers for the text, though not the 
>>> menu.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Windows, everything, including menus and scrollbars, can be magnified in 
>>> the settings.  Can't remember the name of the setting.  As well as many 
>>> programs that have individual magnifiers.
>>> 
>>> Even so, I prefer the Mac, since I have to learn VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 1:50:15 PM UTC-5, Anouk wrote:
>>> Hi everyone, 
>>> I have been a blind mac user for years now. Some friends of mine  are still 
>>> able to use magnification and some people ask me for advice because 
>>> supernova is crashy or jfw and magic are crashy on their systems. 
>>> Are there people that can give an account how  magnification works on the 
>>> mac and if it is comparable what you can get on a windows pc with 
>>> screenreading software? 
>>> Thanks in advance, 
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: question about VMware fusion on new MBA

2014-02-05 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I think it something have to do with the computer hardware ID. But then again 
it is a virtual software so it should not matter? lol
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On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Interesting. I wonder how they know since the virtual hardware should be 
> identical. They must have some secret sauce.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/5/14 3:43 PM, May and Noah wrote:
>> It tells you after a while that the key isn’t activated and when you try it 
>> says this key has been used on another machine. So you’d have to call them 
>> and say, nope, it hasn’t or something like it.
>> 
>> I know because I just copied from one mac to another.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> As long as you aren't running the same key on two virtual machines at the 
>>> same time, how would they know it's not the same machine?
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/5/14 2:38 PM, Vivianna wrote:
>>>> I have the software copy of windows 7 as well as the key written down.
>>>> someone told me that i won't be able to use that same key on a second 
>>>> machine. hmmm?
>>>> 
>>>> Vivianna
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:32 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You can use the same version of vmware, but windows yells at you about 
>>>>> the product key.
>>>>> 
>>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You should be able to use the same version and as far as transferring 
>>>>>> windows 7 over I am not sure.
>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Vivianna  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hi all.
>>>>>>> i am currently using VMware fusion with a OEM of windows 7.  if i 
>>>>>>> purchase another machine can i use the same fusion that i already have? 
>>>>>>>  also, must i purchase another version of windows 7 or can i transfer 
>>>>>>> this one?
>>>>>>> thanks much.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Vivianna
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Re: Stopping Mail from speaking subject and preview window of every message being download

2014-02-11 Thread Daniel Hawkins
You can do one of two things, either close the Mail app when you are not useing 
it, or click do not disturb in notification.
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On Feb 11, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:

> Hello List, 
> This is really driving me nuts! I need to stop mail speaking every message 
> being downloaded. Can this be done? I took a look through the view menu but 
> can't find anything that would be related to this. Would something have to be 
> changed in the notifications window? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
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Re: Stopping Mail from speaking subject and preview window of every message being download

2014-02-11 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I for one use quicknav to navigate thru mail. when I go to the message I want I 
hit enter then press the right arrow once, that will start reading the message. 
then deinteract and go down or up to read the next message on that thread and 
interact it then deinteract. that is my method to bypass the whole who is the 
sender title time and embedded embedded.
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On Feb 11, 2014, at 10:25 AM, alia robinson  wrote:

> I think people confuse what some of us mean. I for one am not talking about a 
> "notification" I am talking about when I am in the preview or the body of a 
> message,  and it continually says "one row added" that is nothing to do with 
> do not disturb or notifications, and there is no fix for it, and it didn't 
> used to happen before mavericks. It is maddening, and I hate it. If the op 
> did indeed mean something else then I apologize, but this one row added thing 
> is just inane. 
> 
> Alia
> On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> You can do one of two things, either close the Mail app when you are not 
>> useing it, or click do not disturb in notification.
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Accessable Keyboard Tutorial?

2014-02-11 Thread Daniel Hawkins
hello everyone!

As part of my goal to to train others how to use the Mac, one thing my future 
job would do is also teach new users how to learn how to keyboard. So my 
question is, do you guy know a simple free app for the Mac that can teach you 
how to keyboard? I already tried to check out Appleton and I have not found 
anything.

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Re: Accessable Keyboard Tutorial?

2014-02-13 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Yes I know the keyboard help. But in the job I am going into I am going to 
teach someone how to keyboard. I know there are a few free ones for Windows or 
Linux, but is there any for Mac?

Thanks!
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On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> option then press KVO + K, if you 
> VO means Ctrl + 
> On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:28 pm, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> hello everyone!
>> 
>> As part of my goal to to train others how to use the Mac, one thing my 
>> future job would do is also teach new users how to learn how to keyboard. So 
>> my question is, do you guy know a simple free app for the Mac that can teach 
>> you how to keyboard? I already tried to check out Appleton and I have not 
>> found anything.
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: Accessable Keyboard Tutorial?

2014-02-14 Thread Daniel Hawkins
yes exactly, thanks. I myself know the keyboard and the commands fine. But if a 
new student want to learn how to use the computer but have no idea how to 
propertly use the keyboard, that's where a keyboard typing tutor comes in. So I 
was wondering if there is a free accessable Mac version

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On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:37 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> what do you mean how to keyboard? maybe you ean how to type? like typing 
> master you mean?
> On 14 Feb 2014, at 06:12 am, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes I know the keyboard help. But in the job I am going into I am going to 
>> teach someone how to keyboard. I know there are a few free ones for Windows 
>> or Linux, but is there any for Mac?
>> 
>> Thanks!
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> option then press KVO + K, if you 
>>> VO means Ctrl + 
>>> On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:28 pm, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello everyone!
>>>> 
>>>> As part of my goal to to train others how to use the Mac, one thing my 
>>>> future job would do is also teach new users how to learn how to keyboard. 
>>>> So my question is, do you guy know a simple free app for the Mac that can 
>>>> teach you how to keyboard? I already tried to check out Appleton and I 
>>>> have not found anything.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
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>>>> 
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Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users

2014-02-14 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I too am very interested in this product. I usually use a iPad keyboard but I 
want a more portable version. Right now I am at my local Independent Living 
Resource Center, and they too are interested. Could you please send any more 
info to computersassocia...@gmail.com

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On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:52 AM, Ein Lee  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and 
> Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their 
> smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know 
> about the availability of this product.
> 
> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS 
> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being 
> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable 
> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, 
> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively.
> 
> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a 
> breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control 
> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a 
> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without 
> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another 
> innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also 
> available.
> 
> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world:
> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use 
> smartphone.
> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful.
> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO.
> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate.
> - I have RiVO with me all the time.
> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with 
> this keypad.
> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry.
> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long.
> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind.
> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move.
> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the 
> surroundings with my gesture actions.
> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those who 
> can see.
> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for 
> us!
> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time.
> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android 
> platforms.
> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad 
> interface.
> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and 
> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had 
> before to a desktop or iOS device.
> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the 
> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our 
> lives.
> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. My 
> right arm is feeling better already.
> 
> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just 
> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable 
> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your iPhone 
> safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave your 
> iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or if 
> you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day long, 
> RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever and 
> unlike everyone else.
> 
> I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy the 
> possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that make 
> your life easy.
> 
> Thanks and best wishes,
> 
> Mobience Inc.
> RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page
> 
> Control from palm to pocket: 
> http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket
> A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: 
> http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml
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Re: program for mac for typing in braille

2014-02-16 Thread Daniel Hawkins
If noone answers this. The best thing I can come up right now for now is use an 
updated Libre and ODT2 extention.

I don't have a braille display or an embosser, so I have no way to test this.
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On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Jessica  wrote:

> hi,
> What is a good braille translation program for typing in braille and if 
> necessary, translating it to print to check for errors before embossing?
> Will textedit work for this? If so, can someone please tell me how?
> Thanks,
> 
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: program for mac for typing in braille

2014-02-16 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I was just looking at their website, it looks like the full version is $645, 
and it have been last updated in 2009, so I question will it even work on 
Maverick?
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On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Robert C  wrote:

>   But where to find that demo? I looked but no luck.
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
> Where do forest rangers go to "get away from it all"?
> Robert & Dreamer Doll  ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
> 
> On 2/16/2014 8:28 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>> The free (demo) version adds characters in the output document.  Of course
>> you probably don't mind so long as it is just for personal use, but you
>> would not want to give it to someone else.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica
>> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:40 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: program for mac for typing in braille
>> 
>> how do I get the free version? I cannot find the link.
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:27 PM, David tanner  wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually there is a Duxberry for Mac now if that's what you're looking
>> for.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Daniel Hawkins
>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If none answers this. The best thing I can come up right now for now is
>> use an updated Libre and ODT2 extention.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't have a braille display or an embosser, so I have no way to test
>> this.
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> What is a good braille translation program for typing in braille and if
>> necessary, translating it to print to check for errors before embossing?
>>>>> Will textedit work for this? If so, can someone please tell me how?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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booting up from a CD

2014-02-19 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone!


I have been reading up on Linux accessabilty and want to give Vinux a shot by 
running off a bootable CD. So far I figured how to burn an ISO file to a cd, so 
I hope it is good. But my question is, is the Macbook Pro set by default to 
first boot from the Optical drive before the HDD? If not, is it accessable to 
change that?

Any info on this would be very very helpful, thanks!
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-19 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Thank you so much! I already know how to do bootcamp with Windows 7, but I did 
not think about you are able to do that off a CD. I will be doing that.

Thanks!
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On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Best thing to do is to have the CD/DVD loaded into your drive then go under 
> the Apple menu to System Preferences and open the Startup Disk pane.  Once in 
> there, Interact with the Possible Startup Disks Scroll area and choose your 
> bootable CD/DVD by pressing VO-space on it.  Stop Interacting with the Scroll 
> area then press the Restart button in this pane.  If the bootable CD/DVD does 
> not show up in the Startup Disk pane, then it's not bootable.  Also, if you 
> know for sure that it is bootable, you can press "c" as the startup chime 
> sounds which will force the Mac to startup from a bootable CD/DVD.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone!
>> 
>> 
>> I have been reading up on Linux accessabilty and want to give Vinux a shot 
>> by running off a bootable CD. So far I figured how to burn an ISO file to a 
>> cd, so I hope it is good. But my question is, is the Macbook Pro set by 
>> default to first boot from the Optical drive before the HDD? If not, is it 
>> accessable to change that?
>> 
>> Any info on this would be very very helpful, thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
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Re: How does conversation threading work on the Mac?

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel Hawkins
That's exactly what I do. I agree with you. Works well for me. Also I would 
like to add, if you don't like to hear the embedded embedded all the time, just 
interact with the message. I also use QuickNav all the time
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On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens 
> the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will start 
> being read by VO.  I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go 
> VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread.  I can press 
> the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w to close 
> the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the whole thread 
> of messages.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Works real well.  Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation.  Then, 
>> when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many 
>> messages there are.  To actually open the conversation, use the right arrow 
>> key alone.  Now, you can move down message by message.  To close the 
>> conversation, use the left arrow.  Then, when you press the delete key, you 
>> take out all messages in that conversation.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Daniel McGee  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all, for those who use it. How do you use conversation threading on 
>>> the Mac with Mail?
>>> Previously, I was using the standard view with Mail where all messages come 
>>> in at once and arrowing up to hear each one with the preview pain turned 
>>> on. I have also messed around with the classic view of mail but didn't 
>>> really like that much because I found at times I was losing my place when I 
>>> get a lot of messages e.g. from this list. So have switched back to the 
>>> standard view.
>>> Now though, I'd like to have a go at conversation threading and for those 
>>> who use it could you tell me how it works and more importantly how 
>>> effectively you can use it with Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Daniel
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Re: more questions about audio editing software

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel Hawkins
also check out www.htb2.com, he have a podcast on that too.
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On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:00 AM, isaac  wrote:

> Yes if you go to www.applevis.com there are podcasts about
> adameus pro.On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Jenine Stanley 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Are there any tutorials for Amadeus out there? I really wasn't getting a lot 
>> from the manual regarding keyboard support. 
>> 
>> I'm a long-time Sound Forge user so that colors my experience quite a bit. :)
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> For me, nothing beats Amadeus Pro for keyboard accessibility.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Regarding audio editing software, which of the several apps mentioned here 
>>>> allows for simple keyboard-based selection and manipulation? 
>>>> 
>>>> I really like the interface of MicroWave but I can't seem to figure out 
>>>> how to select audio for editing. 
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: more questions about audio editing software

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Mike,

LOL! I did not know you were in here. Good to hear from you again! Yeah, I 
thought your podcast was really good, but my hearing is just not good enough to 
do video editing.
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On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Mike  wrote:

> Sorry Daniel. I just posted this email again. I guess I should read entire 
> thread before I respond.
> My bad guys.
> 
> Mike Malarsie 
> www.malarsie.com
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> also check out www.htb2.com, he have a podcast on that too.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:00 AM, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes if you go to www.applevis.com there are podcasts about
>>> adameus pro.On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Jenine Stanley 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Are there any tutorials for Amadeus out there? I really wasn't getting a 
>>>> lot from the manual regarding keyboard support. 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm a long-time Sound Forge user so that colors my experience quite a bit. 
>>>> :)
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For me, nothing beats Amadeus Pro for keyboard accessibility.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>>> built-in!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regarding audio editing software, which of the several apps mentioned 
>>>>>> here allows for simple keyboard-based selection and manipulation? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I really like the interface of MicroWave but I can't seem to figure out 
>>>>>> how to select audio for editing. 
>>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Box Sync bogs down menu extras.

2014-02-20 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone!

Recently about a month ago I have installed a cloud storage service called Box 
Sync, I took advantage of their offer of 50 gb. At the time I have installed 
it, it was very accessable. But lately for the past two weeks I have noticed 
that my menu extras is very very slow, it would take me 5 min to just check the 
battery. I narrowed it down to Box. Once I quit the app, menu extras runs just 
fine. I was wondering if anyone have tried this and have the same problem?

Thanks!
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Re: Box Sync bogs down menu extras.

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hmm, right now my Macbook is connected to the internet, and I am surfing the 
net right now, but it still makes VO lags. Maybe I need to try to resign in? 
Let's try that. 

Thanks,
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On Feb 21, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> 
> yes, I experience the same issue. It happens if my MacBook is not connected 
> to the internet. Seems to me as if Box tries to synchronize without success 
> what causes a kind of "VoiceOver busy" issue.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 21.02.2014 um 04:59 schrieb Daniel Hawkins :
> 
>> Hello everyone!
>> 
>> Recently about a month ago I have installed a cloud storage service called 
>> Box Sync, I took advantage of their offer of 50 gb. At the time I have 
>> installed it, it was very accessable. But lately for the past two weeks I 
>> have noticed that my menu extras is very very slow, it would take me 5 min 
>> to just check the battery. I narrowed it down to Box. Once I quit the app, 
>> menu extras runs just fine. I was wondering if anyone have tried this and 
>> have the same problem?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
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Re: Suggestions for accessible apps?

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Are you talking about IOS or Mac. If IOS you can use Google Voice, or TalkaTone.
Daniel Hawkins
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iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
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On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Rafael Bejarano  wrote:

> Thanks for the clock suggestion.  Now, I just need to find an SMS app that 
> works with VO.
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone,

Ok, I tried the Disk Utility and I can see the Mac HD drive and Bootcamp, but 
not the bootable cd. So I tried the cd on another Windows PC and it worked. So 
I went back to my Mac, and tried holding C when I restart. Something happens 
but the screen is dark, I think since I don't see light. I acually let my Mac 
sit for 15min, just give it time to load. But nothing happens. So I tried 
thehard shutdown and restart holding C, still the same thing. SI can hear the 
DVD drive spool up and spin for a min then it dies down.

Do you guys know of another option? I hear that you can hold the Options key at 
startup, but I don't know how many times you press the right arrow.

Any info on this would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Best thing to do is to have the CD/DVD loaded into your drive then go under 
> the Apple menu to System Preferences and open the Startup Disk pane.  Once in 
> there, Interact with the Possible Startup Disks Scroll area and choose your 
> bootable CD/DVD by pressing VO-space on it.  Stop Interacting with the Scroll 
> area then press the Restart button in this pane.  If the bootable CD/DVD does 
> not show up in the Startup Disk pane, then it's not bootable.  Also, if you 
> know for sure that it is bootable, you can press "c" as the startup chime 
> sounds which will force the Mac to startup from a bootable CD/DVD.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone!
>> 
>> 
>> I have been reading up on Linux accessabilty and want to give Vinux a shot 
>> by running off a bootable CD. So far I figured how to burn an ISO file to a 
>> cd, so I hope it is good. But my question is, is the Macbook Pro set by 
>> default to first boot from the Optical drive before the HDD? If not, is it 
>> accessable to change that?
>> 
>> Any info on this would be very very helpful, thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that have 
CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility there is 
nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp. 

So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at startup, 
but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know there are three 
options to choose from other than the Super drive. The thing is which option is 
the CD drive?

Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> If you get a black screen, your disk is not bootable. Hold down your option 
> after hearing the start up chime and hold it for a minute to be sure. Press 
> the left arrow one time if you dont have more bootable disks. In OSX the boot 
> drive should be formated as journal extended or something if you want ot do a 
> clean install.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 21. feb. 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When you go into System Prefs, in the Startup Disks pane, with your bootable 
> CD in the drive, do you see it as a startup option?  Seeing it in Disk 
> Utility only tells you that the disk is there, not if it is bootable on a Mac.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Ok, I tried the Disk Utility and I can see the Mac HD drive and Bootcamp, 
>> but not the bootable cd. So I tried the cd on another Windows PC and it 
>> worked. So I went back to my Mac, and tried holding C when I restart. 
>> Something happens but the screen is dark, I think since I don't see light. I 
>> acually let my Mac sit for 15min, just give it time to load. But nothing 
>> happens. So I tried thehard shutdown and restart holding C, still the same 
>> thing. SI can hear the DVD drive spool up and spin for a min then it dies 
>> down.
>> 
>> Do you guys know of another option? I hear that you can hold the Options key 
>> at startup, but I don't know how many times you press the right arrow.
>> 
>> Any info on this would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Best thing to do is to have the CD/DVD loaded into your drive then go under 
>>> the Apple menu to System Preferences and open the Startup Disk pane.  Once 
>>> in there, Interact with the Possible Startup Disks Scroll area and choose 
>>> your bootable CD/DVD by pressing VO-space on it.  Stop Interacting with the 
>>> Scroll area then press the Restart button in this pane.  If the bootable 
>>> CD/DVD does not show up in the Startup Disk pane, then it's not bootable.  
>>> Also, if you know for sure that it is bootable, you can press "c" as the 
>>> startup chime sounds which will force the Mac to startup from a bootable 
>>> CD/DVD.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have been reading up on Linux accessabilty and want to give Vinux a shot 
>>>> by running off a bootable CD. So far I figured how to burn an ISO file to 
>>>> a cd, so I hope it is good. But my question is, is the Macbook Pro set by 
>>>> default to first boot from the Optical drive before the HDD? If not, is it 
>>>> accessable to change that?
>>>> 
>>>> Any info on this would be very very helpful, thanks!
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as m

Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello,

I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the bootable 
cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd is bootable. I 
have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, but I am not sure the 
program that you are to use on the Mac is accessable, and it involves command 
line use. That is over my head lol.

But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there issomething on 
the screen if I turn off the lights, but nothing happens. Vinux should start 
talking when it starts up, so now I think the bootable cd is now working, I 
just need to find a sighted person.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Either I'm not understanding you, your typing different info than you're 
> doing, or your not quite understanding what I'm recommending that you do.  
> Disk Utility will not assist you with the boot-ability of your CD.  Your 
> absolute best method is to go into the System Preferences, press on Startup 
> Disks and see if the CD that you hope to boot from is listed there.  If it 
> is, VO-space on it then navigate over to the Restart button.  If it's not 
> there, then your CD is not bootable by your Mac.  Holding down the Option key 
> at startup will only give you the list of possible Startup Disks that this 
> pane gives you while in System Preferences, with the added issue that it is 
> not accessible.  For the most part, the Option key method is only useful to 
> you once you know that something is bootable.  There are a number of reasons 
> why it may not boot with your Mac including disk format, external vs internal 
> device etc.  Here's an article on creating a bootable USB drive that may 
> assist you in this endeavour.
> 
> http://www.techusers.net/6/how-create-linux-bootable-usb-drive-mac-osx-using-dd-command
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that 
>> have CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility there 
>> is nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp. 
>> 
>> So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at 
>> startup, but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know there 
>> are three options to choose from other than the Super drive. The thing is 
>> which option is the CD drive?
>> 
>> Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> If you get a black screen, your disk is not bootable. Hold down your option 
>>> after hearing the start up chime and hold it for a minute to be sure. Press 
>>> the left arrow one time if you dont have more bootable disks. In OSX the 
>>> boot drive should be formated as journal extended or something if you want 
>>> ot do a clean install.
>>> 
>>> Take care
>>> 
>>> 21. feb. 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Tim Kilburn :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When you go into System Prefs, in the Startup Disks pane, with your 
>>> bootable CD in the drive, do you see it as a startup option?  Seeing it in 
>>> Disk Utility only tells you that the disk is there, not if it is bootable 
>>> on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I tried the Disk Utility and I can see the Mac HD drive and Bootcamp, 
>>>> but not the bootable cd. So I tried the cd on another Windows PC and it 
>>>> worked. So I went back to my Mac, and tried holding C when I restart. 
>>>> Som

Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-22 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I am going to try n see if I can get my flash 
drive to be bootable too. More research!

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Bootable on a Windows machine doesn't always mean bootable on your Mac 
> though.  If you're not seeing in in the possible Startup Disks, then your Mac 
> won't boot from it no matter which method you try.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the bootable 
>> cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd is bootable. 
>> I have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, but I am not sure 
>> the program that you are to use on the Mac is accessable, and it involves 
>> command line use. That is over my head lol.
>> 
>> But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there issomething on 
>> the screen if I turn off the lights, but nothing happens. Vinux should start 
>> talking when it starts up, so now I think the bootable cd is now working, I 
>> just need to find a sighted person.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Either I'm not understanding you, your typing different info than you're 
>>> doing, or your not quite understanding what I'm recommending that you do.  
>>> Disk Utility will not assist you with the boot-ability of your CD.  Your 
>>> absolute best method is to go into the System Preferences, press on Startup 
>>> Disks and see if the CD that you hope to boot from is listed there.  If it 
>>> is, VO-space on it then navigate over to the Restart button.  If it's not 
>>> there, then your CD is not bootable by your Mac.  Holding down the Option 
>>> key at startup will only give you the list of possible Startup Disks that 
>>> this pane gives you while in System Preferences, with the added issue that 
>>> it is not accessible.  For the most part, the Option key method is only 
>>> useful to you once you know that something is bootable.  There are a number 
>>> of reasons why it may not boot with your Mac including disk format, 
>>> external vs internal device etc.  Here's an article on creating a bootable 
>>> USB drive that may assist you in this endeavour.
>>> 
>>> http://www.techusers.net/6/how-create-linux-bootable-usb-drive-mac-osx-using-dd-command
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that 
>>>> have CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility 
>>>> there is nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp. 
>>>> 
>>>> So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at 
>>>> startup, but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know 
>>>> there are three options to choose from other than the Super drive. The 
>>>> thing is which option is the CD drive?
>>>> 
>>>> Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>> 
>>>> Dual Boot:
>

Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I agree with everyone here. I feel right now my Mac is more productive. Why? 
When I lost my vision, I just went to the Mac first. I am now learning how to 
use Windows 7 with NVDA. But I know my Mac so I feel the Mac is better, and 
that is just due to I know and what to expect. But, from what I see from 
everyone, there are things you can do on a Mac, or Windows, or even on a Linux, 
that you can't do for others. So each to his own.

As a future adaptive technology trainer, I am trying to learn all platforms and 
have an open mind. But, I do have to admit, I am kinda loyal to Apple, lol.

But, I do agree with the blogs ideas how the Mac is frustrating. A lot of 
things he stated, I have found a workaround, and I am quite happy with this 
setup. So having VM Fusion, with Windows, and Linux would be the most 
productive of all.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> For me, it's simple. I have a laptop running Windows 7, and my Macbook Pro. I 
> accomplish most tasks using the Mac. I accomplish others using Windows. I do 
> this because I find them easier to manage in Windows. I'm fortunate enough to 
> be able to do both without installing Windows on my Mac, which I have no 
> desire to do.
> I love my Mac, and for some tasks, I love Windows. Life is about choices, and 
> I'm happy with the ones I've made.
> 
> 
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
> richr...@gmail.com
> 
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> I was struck by the number of comments from people who said they based their 
>> decisions to stick with Windows solely on his article. It was a very fair 
>> article, although some of the points are just wrong, such as iBooks being as 
>> inaccessible as he thinks. Anyhow, I wouldn't base my decision to do 
>> anything on just one person's experience. 
>> 
>> It was interesting to read, but I'll stick with what I have. I like it well 
>> enough, and as long as Apple commits to accessibility, I'll vote with my 
>> wallet. Pure and simple for me.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Teresa Cochran
>> batsfly...@me.com
>> Facebook
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Man! you just knew this would get a thread going. Personally, I use both 
>>> Mac and Windows in a VM, both have their attractions and strong points. I 
>>> don't like the rather screwy accessibility breakage I'm seeing on the Mac, 
>>> and I also don't like microsofts changing interfaces (e.g.. windows7 to 
>>> window 8).
>>> I have no loyalty to either brand, brand loyalty is just plain foolish  in 
>>> my opinion. life is getting too short to look for and expect perfection 
>>> anywhere.  I'll use whatever works at the moment without worrying too much 
>>> about what doesn't.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Tim,
>>>> I feel that is exactly the most important point.
>>>> Computer choices are totally and completely individual, as they should be. 
>>>> Any  suggestion that  one method or means works for  anyone but yourself 
>>>> suggests that there is no  individual human differences which is simply 
>>>> untrue.
>>>> The sooner people stop suggesting that stereotypes translate into reality 
>>>> for everyone.   Respect that  the first question should  always be how 
>>>> will this work for my personal needs?   and that individual encouraged to 
>>>> express their individual choice without fear of condemnation by a 
>>>> collective and nonexistent community,   the easier it will be for others 
>>>> to respect your uniqueness.  There are no two people who experience 
>>>> anything, including sight loss the same.  Time to respect this persons 
>>>> choices, he said personal, owning that they apply to him alone.  Just as 
>>>> your seasoning applies only to you.
>>>> certainly you can share  how you managed a problem, but no one should ever 
>>>> think that their choices to do it differently is somehow less than 
>>>> sensational...for them.  There is no one size fits tool to accomplish 
>>>> individual human  art

Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Yeah, something is going on here lol. When I get back to work on thursday I 
will try out my other computer there.

thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 23, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> holding down the C key used to boot from the CD.  I don't think this has been 
> disabled.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that 
>> have CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility there 
>> is nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp. 
>> 
>> So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at 
>> startup, but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know there 
>> are three options to choose from other than the Super drive. The thing is 
>> which option is the CD drive?
>> 
>> Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> If you get a black screen, your disk is not bootable. Hold down your option 
>>> after hearing the start up chime and hold it for a minute to be sure. Press 
>>> the left arrow one time if you dont have more bootable disks. In OSX the 
>>> boot drive should be formated as journal extended or something if you want 
>>> ot do a clean install.
>>> 
>>> Take care
>>> 
>>> 21. feb. 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Tim Kilburn :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When you go into System Prefs, in the Startup Disks pane, with your 
>>> bootable CD in the drive, do you see it as a startup option?  Seeing it in 
>>> Disk Utility only tells you that the disk is there, not if it is bootable 
>>> on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I tried the Disk Utility and I can see the Mac HD drive and Bootcamp, 
>>>> but not the bootable cd. So I tried the cd on another Windows PC and it 
>>>> worked. So I went back to my Mac, and tried holding C when I restart. 
>>>> Something happens but the screen is dark, I think since I don't see light. 
>>>> I acually let my Mac sit for 15min, just give it time to load. But nothing 
>>>> happens. So I tried thehard shutdown and restart holding C, still the same 
>>>> thing. SI can hear the DVD drive spool up and spin for a min then it dies 
>>>> down.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you guys know of another option? I hear that you can hold the Options 
>>>> key at startup, but I don't know how many times you press the right arrow.
>>>> 
>>>> Any info on this would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>> 
>>>> Dual Boot:
>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>>> NVDA installed
>>>> 
>>>> Phonak Compilot
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best thing to do is to have the CD/DVD loaded into your drive then go 
>>>>> under the Apple menu to System Preferences and open the Startup Disk 
>>>>> pane.  Onc

Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Chris,

You may have brought up something. I have been seeing something about EFI, but 
did not know what that means. Now the million dollar question, where can I find 
a EFI Vinux? lol. I may just have Vinux boot up on my Windows machine and use 
the Startup program to make a bootable USB.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> The link pasted below to a discussion thread might help you track down some 
> answers. Apparently Windows boxes use BIOS and Macs use EFI firmware for 
> bootstrapping the machine. So while the Linux bases are nearly identical, the 
> bootup process is different and you'll need to have an EFI-based booter to 
> make things go. Most distributions assume a BIOS-based box.
> 
> http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34117/why-wont-my-macbook-pro-boot-from-a-linux-live-cd
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/22/14 10:43 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I am going to try n see if I can get my 
>> flash drive to be bootable too. More research!
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Bootable on a Windows machine doesn't always mean bootable on your Mac 
>>> though.  If you're not seeing in in the possible Startup Disks, then your 
>>> Mac won't boot from it no matter which method you try.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the 
>>>> bootable cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd 
>>>> is bootable. I have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, but 
>>>> I am not sure the program that you are to use on the Mac is accessable, 
>>>> and it involves command line use. That is over my head lol.
>>>> 
>>>> But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there issomething 
>>>> on the screen if I turn off the lights, but nothing happens. Vinux should 
>>>> start talking when it starts up, so now I think the bootable cd is now 
>>>> working, I just need to find a sighted person.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>> 
>>>> Dual Boot:
>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>>> NVDA installed
>>>> 
>>>> Phonak Compilot
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either I'm not understanding you, your typing different info than you're 
>>>>> doing, or your not quite understanding what I'm recommending that you do. 
>>>>>  Disk Utility will not assist you with the boot-ability of your CD.  Your 
>>>>> absolute best method is to go into the System Preferences, press on 
>>>>> Startup Disks and see if the CD that you hope to boot from is listed 
>>>>> there.  If it is, VO-space on it then navigate over to the Restart 
>>>>> button.  If it's not there, then your CD is not bootable by your Mac.  
>>>>> Holding down the Option key at startup will only give you the list of 
>>>>> possible Startup Disks that this pane gives you while in System 
>

Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Chris,

Ok, I did some research, I could not find a compatiable Vinux with EFI support. 
But I did find the Mac-Linux usb loader, it is here 
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-boot-a-linux-live-usb-stick-on-your-mac/

that’s how you use it. So far I just tried the app, and it looks completely 
accessable. Hooray!, now off to finding a supported Vinux.

Btw, is there another way to boot from a usb instead of hitting Options at 
startup?

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> Well on Windows it's actually called Uefi if I'm correct. It works like Efi 
> with some differences obviously but wouldn't know what they are. My nearly 
> dying laptop uses the good old inaccessible bios.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> On 24/02/2014 22:12, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> You may have brought up something. I have been seeing something about EFI, 
>> but did not know what that means. Now the million dollar question, where can 
>> I find a EFI Vinux? lol. I may just have Vinux boot up on my Windows machine 
>> and use the Startup program to make a bootable USB.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> The link pasted below to a discussion thread might help you track down some 
>>> answers. Apparently Windows boxes use BIOS and Macs use EFI firmware for 
>>> bootstrapping the machine. So while the Linux bases are nearly identical, 
>>> the bootup process is different and you'll need to have an EFI-based booter 
>>> to make things go. Most distributions assume a BIOS-based box.
>>> 
>>> http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34117/why-wont-my-macbook-pro-boot-from-a-linux-live-cd
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/22/14 10:43 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>>>> Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I am going to try n see if I can get my 
>>>> flash drive to be bootable too. More research!
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>> 
>>>> Dual Boot:
>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>>> NVDA installed
>>>> 
>>>> Phonak Compilot
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bootable on a Windows machine doesn't always mean bootable on your Mac 
>>>>> though.  If you're not seeing in in the possible Startup Disks, then your 
>>>>> Mac won't boot from it no matter which method you try.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the 
>>>>>> bootable cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd 
>>>>>> is bootable. I have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, 
>>>>>> but I am not sure the program that you are to use on the Mac is 
>>>>>> accessable, and it involves command line use. That is over my head lol.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there 
>>>>>> issomething on the scre

Re: a quick question about the bard mobile ap

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I too am courious about that too. But as far I can tell, it is copy protected, 
so that option is not there. I tried to do research on that since I liked to 
listen books thru iTunes instead of the BARD Mobil app. The only downside of 
BARD Mobil apps is that you can't lock the screen, so putting your iPhone in 
your pocket is out of the question.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> Something I was curious about with that app; the article claimed when it 
> first came out, that you could transfer your existing books to the app via 
> itunes, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to do this.  Has anyone 
> else been able to do this?
>  I don't want to have to redownload the same books again, which can take a 
> while, and if I'm pressed for time, that can get annoying, so if anyone has 
> some tips, I'd really appreciate it.
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Sure.  Just go to your wish list on the app, then, when you find a book, 
>> double tap on it.  You will get a doalog asking if you want to download the 
>> book.  Answer yes to this.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dana  wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish 
>>> list but nott how to download them on the bard  ap can someone tell me how 
>>> it is done?
>>> Thanks
>>> Dana
>>> Skype and twitter ID's both the same
>>> djkitty73 
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Re: a quick question about the bard mobile ap

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Thank you so much for that tip! Does that really work? Is it still copy 
protected? I just tried that and the documents area is blank. Also my Free 
Ringtones app is blank too. So something is going on. But I do understand the 
method to do. Just find the file in BARD Mobil and drag n Drop it to the 
desktop.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
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Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
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On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, Jessica and Daniel,
> 
> In iTunes, go to your device in the sources list. Find the radio button that 
> says "apps" and press it. VO-right till you get to the scroll area and 
> interact with it. VO-right until you get to the "file sharing" area. There 
> will be two tables here. One is the list of apps you have on your device that 
> can share files. The other is the list of files within that app. Mine has 
> Bard Mobile in the first table. Press the "add" button and add your zip file.
> 
> HtH,
> teresa
> 
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:49 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> Something I was curious about with that app; the article claimed when it 
>> first came out, that you could transfer your existing books to the app via 
>> itunes, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to do this.  Has 
>> anyone else been able to do this?
>> I don't want to have to redownload the same books again, which can take a 
>> while, and if I'm pressed for time, that can get annoying, so if anyone has 
>> some tips, I'd really appreciate it.
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Sure.  Just go to your wish list on the app, then, when you find a book, 
>>> double tap on it.  You will get a doalog asking if you want to download the 
>>> book.  Answer yes to this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Dana  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know I have figured out how to find books put them in my wish 
>>>> list but nott how to download them on the bard  ap can someone tell me how 
>>>> it is done?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Dana
>>>> Skype and twitter ID's both the same
>>>> djkitty73 
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Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Yes, that is why Apple have the App called Bootcamp. When you go to Bootcamp 
and start the process, it will require a usb drive to download the latest 
drivers.

Also, keep in mind, many sighted people use Options to pick which operating 
system to boot from, but with Bootcamp you can go to Preferences then to 
Startup, and say restart in Bootcamp. Then in the Windows side, in the system 
try, there is a bootcamp icon there, click that and click restart in OSX. 
Pretty nifty.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Traci  wrote:

> Thank you for the advice so far.
> 
> I don't know why I said parallels, what I really meant was Boot Camp. I do 
> want the experiences to be separate.
> 
> If I have a windows installation cd and I'm using boot camp, are the drivers 
> found automatically for me?
> 
> Traci 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:I
>> 
>> Hi. I've had no trouble running windows seven ultimate 32 bit or 64
>> bit via bootcamp. It'll most likely be the best option. You're going
>> to have an easier time using a native install as opposed to a virtual
>> machine. And as for hardware/driver/application conflicts, I've had
>> none to speak of with my native windows install and that is on five
>> different macs at this point.
>> 
>> If you can afford the new mac mini server edition, that gives you two
>> 1tb internal hard drives, an Intel I7 quad core processor, and more
>> ram than you'll probably need with the ability to add more later on if
>> required.
>> 
>> Just my two cents...
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/26/14, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>> Well at times running windows on a mac is more a nightmare than a day dream
>>> in my experience. But once you work through all the headaches, it can be
>>> done pretty well.
>>> First, you won't be using Parallels. It's not accessible. You'll have to use
>>> VMware fusion if you want a virtual machine or of course you can use Boot
>>> Camp if you don't mind separating your Windows and Mac experience.
>>> The biggest problem with VMware fusion is that most of my sighted friends
>>> using Macs don't use it. It doesn't have nearly the ratings of Parallel and
>>> except for accessibility doesn't seem to be of interest to people I know. So
>>> getting help is sometimes challenging.
>>> If you want your experience to be particularly snappy in windows, you'll
>>> have to have at least three cores to dedicate to the Windows box.
>>> Fortunately the Mac doesn't need so much.
>>> I had mine on a Mac Air but it was pretty sluggish and crashed a lot. I
>>> finally wen to a Macbook Pro with maximum specs and it's running quite well.
>>> But that doesn't address your interest to do this on the cheap.
>>> I think your copy of WindowEyes will run in the virtual machine with
>>> Windows7 but check with them to be sure. NVDA certainly will of course.
>>> be prepared for headaches though. You have to map some keys, resolve
>>> whatever conflicts arise about hardware and applications etc. I've found it
>>> to be pretty challenging at times. Reliability of help from the lists has
>>> been hit and miss too.
>>> Having said that, I'd probably do it again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to
>>>> have a Mac to run Windows via parallels.  We are on a budget, so buying a
>>>> super duper iMac is not doable. I was wondering about a Mac Mini for
>>>> running Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> We have a TV that can be used as a monitor and we have a Zagg bluetooth
>>>> keyboard.  We also have a Microsoft connection, so fingers crossed on a
>>>> good deal for a Windows CD.  BTW, I want the best bang for my buck.  :)  I
>>>> want OSX & Windows to run smoothly, if not snappy.  :)  No sluggishness.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm open to any advice you have for me.  Here are a few questions off the
>>>> top of my head.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Which Windo

Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Hawkins
There was a write up about this. It pretty much count the times you hit enter 
and left and right arrows. But if you forget a step, you will get stuck.

Technically to answer your question, installing Windows is not accessable. You 
can do Bootcamp untill you hit the Install Button. After that it is sighted 
required. Unless you are brave enough to follow exact directions and try it out.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Question.  Is there any way to set up Bootcamp without sighted assistance?  
> Seems to me I remember seeing something about that.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, that is why Apple have the App called Bootcamp. When you go to Bootcamp 
>> and start the process, it will require a usb drive to download the latest 
>> drivers.
>> 
>> Also, keep in mind, many sighted people use Options to pick which operating 
>> system to boot from, but with Bootcamp you can go to Preferences then to 
>> Startup, and say restart in Bootcamp. Then in the Windows side, in the 
>> system try, there is a bootcamp icon there, click that and click restart in 
>> OSX. Pretty nifty.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Traci  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you for the advice so far.
>>> 
>>> I don't know why I said parallels, what I really meant was Boot Camp. I do 
>>> want the experiences to be separate.
>>> 
>>> If I have a windows installation cd and I'm using boot camp, are the 
>>> drivers found automatically for me?
>>> 
>>> Traci 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Cameron Strife  
>>>> wrote:I
>>>> 
>>>> Hi. I've had no trouble running windows seven ultimate 32 bit or 64
>>>> bit via bootcamp. It'll most likely be the best option. You're going
>>>> to have an easier time using a native install as opposed to a virtual
>>>> machine. And as for hardware/driver/application conflicts, I've had
>>>> none to speak of with my native windows install and that is on five
>>>> different macs at this point.
>>>> 
>>>> If you can afford the new mac mini server edition, that gives you two
>>>> 1tb internal hard drives, an Intel I7 quad core processor, and more
>>>> ram than you'll probably need with the ability to add more later on if
>>>> required.
>>>> 
>>>> Just my two cents...
>>>> 
>>>> Cameron.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/26/14, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>>>> Well at times running windows on a mac is more a nightmare than a day 
>>>>> dream
>>>>> in my experience. But once you work through all the headaches, it can be
>>>>> done pretty well.
>>>>> First, you won't be using Parallels. It's not accessible. You'll have to 
>>>>> use
>>>>> VMware fusion if you want a virtual machine or of course you can use Boot
>>>>> Camp if you don't mind separating your Windows and Mac experience.
>>>>> The biggest problem with VMware fusion is that most of my sighted friends
>>>>> using Macs don't use it. It doesn't have nearly the ratings of Parallel 
>>>>> and
>>>>> except for accessibility doesn't seem to be of interest to people I know. 
>>>>> So
>>>>> getting help is sometimes challenging.
>>>>> If you want your experience to be particularly snappy in windows, you'll
>>>>> have to have at least three cores to dedica

Re: google video hangouts

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I 
know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices.
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On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:

> anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to 
> promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I 
> had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 
> pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max 
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Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hats off to anyone who is brave enough to do this. I know it is possable it can 
be done. It just I like more control of what I want to do.

Chris, thanks for the write up. Who know, I may one day do that. lol.
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On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:

> I am brave enough to try this but where is the write up is tat in the 
> archives of the list?
> 
> 
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> There was a write up about this. It pretty much count the times you hit 
>> enter and left and right arrows. But if you forget a step, you will get 
>> stuck.
>> 
>> Technically to answer your question, installing Windows is not accessable. 
>> You can do Bootcamp untill you hit the Install Button. After that it is 
>> sighted required. Unless you are brave enough to follow exact directions and 
>> try it out.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Question.  Is there any way to set up Bootcamp without sighted assistance?  
>>> Seems to me I remember seeing something about that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, that is why Apple have the App called Bootcamp. When you go to 
>>>> Bootcamp and start the process, it will require a usb drive to download 
>>>> the latest drivers.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, keep in mind, many sighted people use Options to pick which 
>>>> operating system to boot from, but with Bootcamp you can go to Preferences 
>>>> then to Startup, and say restart in Bootcamp. Then in the Windows side, in 
>>>> the system try, there is a bootcamp icon there, click that and click 
>>>> restart in OSX. Pretty nifty.
>>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>>> 500GB HDD
>>>> 
>>>> Dual Boot:
>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>>> NVDA installed
>>>> 
>>>> Phonak Compilot
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Traci  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for the advice so far.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know why I said parallels, what I really meant was Boot Camp. I 
>>>>> do want the experiences to be separate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I have a windows installation cd and I'm using boot camp, are the 
>>>>> drivers found automatically for me?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Traci 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Cameron Strife  
>>>>>> wrote:I
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi. I've had no trouble running windows seven ultimate 32 bit or 64
>>>>>> bit via bootcamp. It'll most likely be the best option. You're going
>>>>>> to have an easier time using a native install as opposed to a virtual
>>>>>> machine. And as for hardware/driver/application conflicts, I've had
>>>>>> none to speak of with my native windows install and that is on five
>>>>>> different macs at this point.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you can afford the new mac mini server edition, that gives you two
>>>>>> 1tb in

Re: google video hangouts

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
On what device? IOS, Mac, or Android.  My wife's Nexus 7 Hangout app seems to 
work well. but on IOS nope.
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On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, isaac  wrote:

> I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the app 
> would just crash.
> On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I 
>> know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
>> 
>>> anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to 
>>> promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. 
>>> I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 
>>> 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max 
>>> 
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Re: google video hangouts

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I have both a Macbook Pro and iPhone. The IOS app is not accessable last I 
checked. I tried Hangout on the web browser, but I seem to be stuck on the main 
page, can't get out of it lol.
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On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:

> are you using macbook or iMac or an iOS device. it was clunky but did run on 
> my macbook pro. take care, max 
> On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, isaac wrote:
> 
>> I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the 
>> app would just crash.
>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I 
>>> know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices.
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> NVDA installed
>>> 
>>> Phonak Compilot
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need 
>>>> to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right 
>>>> now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at 
>>>> about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max 
>>>> 
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Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I just tried the widget using VO F2 twice, and that brought up window chooser.

What advantage does a VO user using a widget on a Mac?
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On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and 
> you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar 
> and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget 
> manager, which is supposed to be "on the left side of the screen" and 
> unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
> 
> On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies 
>> of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth 
>> the aggravation of dealing with it all.
>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't been able to find a way.  I gave up trying to figure it out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is 
>>>> there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it 
>>>> accessible with vO?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks,
>>>> teresa
>>>>
>>>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>>>> 
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Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hmm interesting. I gotta play around with Dashboard. Did you get OBT2 working 
on Libre? Libre works fine for me but I can't seem to get the extention to 
install. Something you have to do to Java.

If anyone have a current info how a VO user interact with dashboard, I would 
very much be interested.

Thanks!
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On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jessica  wrote:

> That works under Mavericks?I think when trying to install it, I got something 
> about it not being safe. Is this true? I've been looking for translation 
> software for the Mac for about a month now. For now, I'm just using text edit 
> with the Apple braille fond.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you go into dashboard first with f12? That is the point where you hit 
>> VO-f2 twice quickly. widgets are like mini-applets for various applications 
>> on the Mac. You can pop in and out to accomplish a task without having to 
>> open the full app. I even have a little Braille translation of free text 
>> widget that was installed with Louis for Braille transcription. with the 
>> calculator you can enter the numbers on the keyboard. You can set a world 
>> clock, as well. they're very handy, and I wish they were as accessible as 
>> they used to be.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just tried the widget using VO F2 twice, and that brought up window 
>>> chooser.
>>> 
>>> What advantage does a VO user using a widget on a Mac?
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
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>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
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>>> NVDA installed
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, 
>>>> and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the 
>>>> widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is 
>>>> finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be "on the left side of 
>>>> the screen" and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse 
>>>> keys at some point.
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's 
>>>> too dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the 
>>>>> inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't 
>>>>> think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all.
>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven't been able to find a way.  I gave up trying to figure it out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>

Re: Libre Office suite question

2014-03-03 Thread Daniel Hawkins

April,

Good news! As of last year in July Libre is now accessable with Voiceover, but 
OpenOffice is not. Just make sure you get the latest update. I think it is 4.1 
but not sure. As to how to install Libre, when you open the dmg file in 
downloads, drag n drop or copy n paste the Libre application file to your 
Application folder. Now click on that file, for the firsttime, it will give you 
a warning that you just downloaded it, do you want to open it. If it said Open 
click that. If it say OK, then you will need to do a VO, shift, M to do a right 
click feature, then click Open. After that the popup will not happen again.

If you are having problems again, just let me know, and I can try "reinstall" 
Libre again, and type the step by step again.

Thanks! 

Daniel Hawkins
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On Mar 2, 2014, at 5:25 AM, April  wrote:

> Another question, every time I try to open it, it asks if I am sure I want to 
> open it.  How do I finish fully installing it?
> 
> On Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:22:47 AM UTC-5, April wrote:
> Due to issues sending Pages files through email, and using two different 
> computers, and needed to be able to easily send files back and forth I am 
> considering using Libre Office instead of Pages.
> 
> While it has more features than I will ever use, it also has more visually 
> accessible features for as long as I can keep my eye working - background 
> color, larger fonts, better font increase percentage, easier formatting.
> 
> Question is: Is it VoiceOver compatible.  They list many other screen readers 
> on their site.
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Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail

2014-03-03 Thread Daniel Hawkins
When you said you have the setting turned off, what do you mean about that?

Thanks!
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On Mar 3, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Thanks Traci, I'll report this as a bug. It's certainly a time waster.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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> 
> On 4/03/2014, at 7:04 am, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I've noticed the same issue and haven't found a work around.  It is 
>> quite annoying.  I had this setting turned off as well.
>> 
>> Traci
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> i dont see the colapse disclosure your talking, can you be more specific
>>> On 02 Mar 2014, at 09:05 am, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all, in the VoiceOver Preferences under verbosity, I've unchecked the 
>>>> option to hear the "collapsed Disclosure Triangle" message, which is just 
>>>> hugely verbose.
>>>> It seems to work everywhere else, but as of 10.9.2, I can't stop the 
>>>> message in Mail. When you group by conversation, this is a lot of verbiage.
>>>> Is anyone else seeing this, and if so, has anyone found a work-around?
>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: Sending Mail from wrong account

2014-03-05 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Same here, And the update did not work. I ended up going to internet accounts 
under Preference and deleteing all my email accounts and re logging it in. That 
fixed the problem.

It was so bad that when I hit reply to this list and make sure the correct 
email is selected and signature, then I would get a Mail delivery failure on a 
different email. Went for like this for a week. I even subscribed under a wrong 
email to a different list! It was a big pot of stinky poo. But after I tried 
everything and gave up and just deleted all my email accounts and re logged in. 
Fixed it!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> I have had this problem as well. Even though I had my go daddy email account 
> selected from the drop down box as the email address I was using my gmail 
> address seemed to over ride that as I learned this when the emails being 
> responded to were my personal gmail address and not my work go daddy one, not 
> sure why this happens or how to fix it, just know you are not alone. Wish I 
> had a solution for you.
> On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
>> The only time the default mail account applies is when you invoke mail
>> fromanother app like the browser. If you're in Mail, either point to
>> the account you want to send from or shift tab to the from field and
>> choose the one you want from the combo box of your accounts.
>> 
>> On 3/5/14, Steve Vandecar  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I am running Mavericks on a Mac Mink.  I have sseveral email accounts and I
>>> have one account set as the account to use to send mail by defalt.  The
>>> problem is even though that account is selected the mail is sent using a
>>> different account.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Steve
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Re: Sending Mail from wrong account

2014-03-05 Thread Daniel Hawkins
yes, Before I could hit reply and it will say the correct email I want from the 
From dropdown box, but once sent it will be sent from a different account.

I had a total of 6 email accounts. two of them I could not send email due to 
the fact they acually send from a different account even I told it the email I 
acually wanted.

So if you just reset the email and relogin again, that will fix the problem.

On the other hand, if anyone brave enough and go to the library folder and 
delete that that may help, but not sure.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Mar 5, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Does this mean you can now once again choose between acounts from which to 
> send mail?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Mar 5, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Same here, And the update did not work. I ended up going to internet 
>> accounts under Preference and deleteing all my email accounts and re logging 
>> it in. That fixed the problem.
>> 
>> It was so bad that when I hit reply to this list and make sure the correct 
>> email is selected and signature, then I would get a Mail delivery failure on 
>> a different email. Went for like this for a week. I even subscribed under a 
>> wrong email to a different list! It was a big pot of stinky poo. But after I 
>> tried everything and gave up and just deleted all my email accounts and re 
>> logged in. Fixed it!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have had this problem as well. Even though I had my go daddy email 
>>> account selected from the drop down box as the email address I was using my 
>>> gmail address seemed to over ride that as I learned this when the emails 
>>> being responded to were my personal gmail address and not my work go daddy 
>>> one, not sure why this happens or how to fix it, just know you are not 
>>> alone. Wish I had a solution for you.
>>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The only time the default mail account applies is when you invoke mail
>>>> fromanother app like the browser. If you're in Mail, either point to
>>>> the account you want to send from or shift tab to the from field and
>>>> choose the one you want from the combo box of your accounts.
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/5/14, Steve Vandecar  wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am running Mavericks on a Mac Mink.  I have sseveral email accounts and 
>>>>> I
>>>>> have one account set as the account to use to send mail by defalt.  The
>>>>> problem is even though that account is selected the mail is sent using a
>>>>> different account.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Steve
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Re: Sending Mail from wrong account

2014-03-05 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I seem to not have much of a problem with the Mac's Mail app. Just the same 
problem last week that was stated in this thread. The only problem I had in 
this new update it keep on telling me how message per thread, that get's 
annoying lol.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Mar 5, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> I am not sure as I have completely removed gmail from this computer, but can 
> tell you that I am still having a lot of issues with mammal as far as 
> sluggishness and in standard view sometimes the right arrow will open a 
> thread of articles and other times it does not. I have never been able to get 
> VO backslash to open a thread of messages yet if I go in to the mailbox table 
> VO backslash works perfectly fine opening a mailbox so I can view the 
> mailboxes subfolders. So strange that Apple just can't seem to get mac mail 
> working and working the same way day to day in Mavericks. The Mac Mail issues 
> is not just VoiceOver related as I have seen a lot of articles of people 
> still having serious issues with Mac Mail, so somebody dropped the ball big 
> time in the design and working of Mac Mail. To bad as everything worked 
> pretty good in Mountain Lion.
> On Mar 5, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Does this mean you can now once again choose between acounts from which to 
>> send mail?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Same here, And the update did not work. I ended up going to internet 
>>> accounts under Preference and deleteing all my email accounts and re 
>>> logging it in. That fixed the problem.
>>> 
>>> It was so bad that when I hit reply to this list and make sure the correct 
>>> email is selected and signature, then I would get a Mail delivery failure 
>>> on a different email. Went for like this for a week. I even subscribed 
>>> under a wrong email to a different list! It was a big pot of stinky poo. 
>>> But after I tried everything and gave up and just deleted all my email 
>>> accounts and re logged in. Fixed it!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have had this problem as well. Even though I had my go daddy email 
>>>> account selected from the drop down box as the email address I was using 
>>>> my gmail address seemed to over ride that as I learned this when the 
>>>> emails being responded to were my personal gmail address and not my work 
>>>> go daddy one, not sure why this happens or how to fix it, just know you 
>>>> are not alone. Wish I had a solution for you.
>>>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The only time the default mail account applies is when you invoke mail
>>>>> fromanother app like the browser. If you're in Mail, either point to
>>>>> the account you want to send from or shift tab to the from field and
>>>>> choose the one you want from the combo box of your accounts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/5/14, Steve Vandecar  wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am running Mavericks on a Mac Mink.  I have sseveral email accounts 
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> have one account set as the account to use to send mail by defalt.  The
>>>>>> problem is even though that account is selected the mail is sent using a
>>>>>> different account.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Steve
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Re: access to remote computers with Remote Desktop

2014-03-06 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Sorry about this, I have not been following this thread, but have anyone tried 
the remote screen shareing under the Messages app? I see the option there to do 
a Mac to Mac. Is it VO friendly?
Daniel Hawkins
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On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

> Alex, I'm assuming this would work just fine, using Team Viewer between 2 
> computers and being able to hear what's going on with the remote machine 
> using VO. It works fine that way in Windows when I've used it. 
> 
> I see there's also a way to connect to a server using team Viewer but I'm 
> still playing with that one.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Full access with Remote Desktop would be ideal. In the meantime, though, 
>> will Team Viewer work? Specifically, if I have Mac1 and Mac2, can I use Mac1 
>> to remotely control Mac2? This, of course, includes having Voiceover running 
>> on Mac2 but me able to hear it on Mac1. I don't need this for work, it would 
>> just be handy for remotely assisting other Mac users from time to time.
>> On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>>> The good people at Apple Accessibility have gotten back to my many 
>>> questions about Remote Desktop. Basically VO won't read the remote screens 
>>> using this program. 
>>> 
>>> I did not ask about Team Viewer in a server environment. 
>>> 
>>> I've used Team Viewer on Windows machines before and know it does work 
>>> computer to computer but don't know about server access with it. If anyone 
>>> does, give me a private shout but for those looking at Remote Desktop, 
>>> sorry. 
>>> 
>>> I did let the Apple folks know that this kind of access is very important 
>>> to many of us in the workplace so if they could make it happen, that would 
>>> be huge. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Has anyone noticed problems with the phone app since upgrading?

2014-03-11 Thread Daniel Hawkins
How many of you guys updated over the air? Or how many of you guys did a full 
wipe and restored the device? I wonder if that will make a difference?
Daniel Hawkins
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On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Come to think of it, I also have experienced this problem once or twice even 
> though I had rebooted my phone, as I reboot my phone twice a day.
> 
> On 11 Mar 2014, at 09:20 pm, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
>> For those who are experiencing odd behavior that most people are not 
>> experiencing, have you rebooted your phone after the update. In my case, 
>> things do not settle down until I have rebooted my phone after the update 
>> and set up is finished.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 12 Mar 2014, at 9:15, Richard Ring  wrote:
>> 
>>> Funny you should say that. I just made a phone call and used the 2 finger 
>>> double tap to hang up. What's strange to me is, a lot of people are 
>>> reporting bugs that I have not experienced. I'm sure they are bugs, I just 
>>> wonder why they don't happen across the board.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
>>> Fielding
>>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
>>> richr...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> Since upgrading, it seems that the phone app is behaving very oddly. 
>>>> Specifically, I am unable to hang up the phone using the two finger double 
>>>> tap. Anyone else noticing this?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Question about a MacBook Pro

2014-03-17 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Yes I have a 2012 Macbook Pro, and I love it.

More details on what you are looking for? You can look at Ebay, Craiglist, or 
Microcenter, or even look at Apple for one. Are you looking at a used, new? 
Could you please explain what you are looking for?

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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> Hi I was wondering if anyone have a MacBook Pro or air that you want to sells
> 
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Re: Status Menus always busy?

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Hawkins
It is always busy when Box Sync is on it. As soon as I quit the program, it is 
much better. Can't seem to find a way around it and still keep Box Sync
Daniel Hawkins
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On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> It always happens now, but I rarely use these menus so can't say when it 
> started.
> On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:01 PM, isaac  wrote:
> 
>> Does this happen all the time? When did this start happening?
>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I can hardly use Status Menus all of a sudden. When I do, it is busy, and 
>>> it takes about five seconds just to move from menu to menu. Once I open a 
>>> menu things are usually okay, but getting there is the trick. Any ideas why 
>>> this might be happening? Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Status Menus always busy?

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Same here. I got the 50 GB one. For a while the IOS Box Sync app was 
accessable. But to get the 50 GB storage I had to upgrade.
 Check out Mediafire, it is the only other one that is accessable than Dropbox 
and Google Drive.
Daniel Hawkins
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> Ah ha, that must be it. I do have Box Sync, as I got a promotional account 
> that gave me 50gb. I love it, except the iPhone app isn't usable, but that 
> would explain the problem. Thanks, and tweet @boxHQ I believe if you want to 
> report this. I don't have an email address.
> On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> It is always busy when Box Sync is on it. As soon as I quit the program, it 
>> is much better. Can't seem to find a way around it and still keep Box Sync
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> It always happens now, but I rarely use these menus so can't say when it 
>>> started.
>>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:01 PM, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does this happen all the time? When did this start happening?
>>>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I can hardly use Status Menus all of a sudden. When I do, it is busy, and 
>>>>> it takes about five seconds just to move from menu to menu. Once I open a 
>>>>> menu things are usually okay, but getting there is the trick. Any ideas 
>>>>> why this might be happening? Thanks.
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arraingeing Files or folders on the Mac

2014-04-09 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone!

I have just one question. I once heard there is a way to arrainge the files you 
want in the order you want. For example I am trying to collect a book series, 
but the files are not in order, how would I move the files around? Also, is 
there a way to move the files in Finder Sidebar up or down?

Thanks!
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Re: voiceover no longer reads slide contents when not in presentation mode?

2014-04-09 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Have you tried to make a new presentation? There may be a possabilty that the 
file is currupt or it is just not there anymore.

So making a new presention and if it works, then you will know something is up 
with the file or settings of the one you are having problems with.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 8, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Jessica  wrote:

> I tried it. I then opened keynote with the presentation in question. It did 
> not read the contents of the slide.
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
> On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> All I can suggest at this point then is to restart your computer so that 
>> Keynote gets a fresh look at things.  I don't know of any other reason why 
>> you could be experiencing this.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I am.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hmmm.  That's odd as it works as it should for me.  Are you, for sure, in 
>>>> the Body text of the slide, not one of the other Rectangle text areas?
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I made the presentation myself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not experiencing this problem.  I just tested a PowerPoint 
>>>>>> presentation in Keynote and I was able to read the text as normal.  Is 
>>>>>> this a presentation that you created yourself?  Is it something that 
>>>>>> someone else created and possibly used pasted images instead of actual 
>>>>>> text for their information?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> When I am editing slides; I am not in presentation mode, voiceover will 
>>>>>>> not read the slide content. it just says, "edit text."
>>>>>>> How can I fix this major issue?
>>>>>>> I just noticed it this morning. I am using the latest version available.
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> 
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Re: voiceover no longer reads slide contents when not in presentation mode?

2014-04-09 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Jessica,

The reason I asked to start a new file is to see if the problem persit. We are 
just trying to troubleshoot here. If the problem continune if you made a new 
file then we need to look into what's wrong with that. But if the problem is 
just the file then we need to see what's wrong with that.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jessica  wrote:

> I don't want to start over. How can I use the data i already have?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried to make a new presentation? There may be a possabilty that 
>> the file is currupt or it is just not there anymore.
>> 
>> So making a new presention and if it works, then you will know something is 
>> up with the file or settings of the one you are having problems with.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried it. I then opened keynote with the presentation in question. It did 
>>> not read the contents of the slide.
>>> Jessica
>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> All I can suggest at this point then is to restart your computer so that 
>>>> Keynote gets a fresh look at things.  I don't know of any other reason why 
>>>> you could be experiencing this.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I am.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmmm.  That's odd as it works as it should for me.  Are you, for sure, 
>>>>>> in the Body text of the slide, not one of the other Rectangle text areas?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I made the presentation myself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not experiencing this problem.  I just tested a PowerPoint 
>>>>>>>> presentation in Keynote and I was able to read the text as normal.  Is 
>>>>>>>> this a presentation that you created yourself?  Is it something that 
>>>>>>>> someone else created and possibly used pasted images instead of actual 
>>>>>>>> text for their information?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> When I am editing slides; I am not in presentation mode, voiceover 
>>>>>>>>> will not read the slide content. it just says, "edit text."
>>>>>>>>> How can I fix this major issue?
>>>>>>>>> I just noticed it this morning. I am using the latest version 
>>>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

2014-04-10 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have someone to 
do it for me.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based and 
> much easier to use.
> 
> HtH,
> teresa
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

2014-04-11 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a popup for 
a update, that was not accessable.

Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a site, 
there you pick what operating system and then click download.

Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash there. 
open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari to let the 
install complete.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I find 
> the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. Thanks for any 
> detailed help with this.
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the 
> disc image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML window.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> Visualize whirled peas.
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have someone 
>> to do it for me.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based 
>>> and much easier to use.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> teresa
>>> 
>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
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Re: other word processing options

2014-04-11 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I agree with Libre Office. I don't know much about office suite, but Libre 
office is pretty good. And the latest update it is now accessable with 
Voiceover. You don't need to install a bridge like in windows.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17 AM, April  wrote:

> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
> though much easier to find what you need.
> 
> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
> Hi all! 
> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
> mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only have 
> an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference to Nisus 
> Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it is accessible with 
> voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more intuitive than msWord.  Any 
> feedback would be appreciated. 
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Re: Calendar in Mavericks-creating an event that will recur once a month?

2014-04-17 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I too have the same question. I tried setting to the second saturday every 
month. It ended up on doing the same date number, not the second Saturday.

Also, on the Mac how do you delete dates? cmd delete did nothing and I can't 
find anything under the menubar.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Jessica  wrote:

> How would I indicate that I want the event on the first Tuesday of every 
> month?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in Calendar, press cmd-n to create the new event.  Enter your event 
>> criteria like "Pay Water Bill on May 2", then press return.  Navigate right 
>> past the scroll area then press VO-space on the date/time link.  This will 
>> open a more detailed area which includes a pop-up menu for the repeat 
>> frequency.  You can Stop Interacting with this area to manipulate the rest 
>> of the event.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> How do I create an event that will occur once a month on a given date? 
>>> Also, How do I move an event to another day?
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jessica
>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Keynote Aglore!

2014-04-17 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone!

Ok, I have been trying to learn how to make my own keynote slides. So far I am 
getting the hang of it somewhat. But one of the biggest problem my friends told 
me that the Body area is very very small print. I know how to make larger print 
by cmd+, but they explained to me the square where the print is in is very 
small.

What I want to do is have a title and in the middle of the slide to have some 
lists. I was wondering how do you make it bigger?

Thanks!
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Re: Calendar in Mavericks-creating an event that will recur once a month?

2014-04-17 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Ok cool thanks for letting me know. I was just getting annoied how long it 
takes to put a date down. And I still can't find a list of appointments only on 
my IOS devices lol.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> hi,
> 
> You should be able to set events like that in within the Custom area of the 
> Repeat options.  So, after activating the date/time link,
> 
> * choose Custom from the Repeat Every pop-up.
> * Select Monthly.
> * Select the "On The" radio button.
> * Select the proper day, eg. Third and Tuesday.
> * close the window.
> 
> Not sure why it wasn't working that way for Daniel.  Regarding the deleting 
> of an event, when in Month view, you can navigate to the event then go up to 
> the Edit menu and choose Delete.  I believe that in some other views, you are 
> able to use the Delete key and/or some other commands.
> 
> Later...
> 
> * 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> I too have the same question. I tried setting to the second saturday every 
>> month. It ended up on doing the same date number, not the second Saturday.
>> 
>> Also, on the Mac how do you delete dates? cmd delete did nothing and I can't 
>> find anything under the menubar.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> How would I indicate that I want the event on the first Tuesday of every 
>>> month?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> When in Calendar, press cmd-n to create the new event.  Enter your event 
>>>> criteria like "Pay Water Bill on May 2", then press return.  Navigate 
>>>> right past the scroll area then press VO-space on the date/time link.  
>>>> This will open a more detailed area which includes a pop-up menu for the 
>>>> repeat frequency.  You can Stop Interacting with this area to manipulate 
>>>> the rest of the event.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> How do I create an event that will occur once a month on a given date? 
>>>>> Also, How do I move an event to another day?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
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Re: how does one switch between ....

2014-04-20 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Alex, is refit acccessable? I tried to use it but I could not figure it out? I 
wanted to install more than just two OS on my Mac.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 20, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> You can install the Refit Boot Manager, and then press w or m upon startup. 
> Or, hold down the option key while booting, arrow to your option (you have no 
> speech, you you have to memorize the order) and press enter. Or, before 
> shutting down, open System Preferences > Startup Disk (Bootcamp Control Panel 
> on Windows) and choose the system into which you want to boot next time. 
> personally, I like Refit the most, but that's just me.
> On Apr 20, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Mark Furness  wrote:
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>> Mac and windows, when using boot camp?Mark
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

2014-04-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello Alex,

Could you please explain more about the verbosity please? I played around with 
it after reading your text and thought I changed it but no difference.

The mail app is driving me crazy. I love threading but this is rediclous.
Daniel Hawkins
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> Hi all,
> Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
> "disclosure triangle" and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so i 
> set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a couple 
> years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really slow, as 
> in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to use the app. 
> Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 8gb of ram, so i 
> figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long today as it did two 
> years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this problem? Is this universal, 
> or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

2014-04-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Alex,

Thanks! I finally now understand it now. That helps me to check my mail much 
much quicker now.

Thanks!
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On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> To see how verbosity changes things, press vo-v, left or right arrow to 
> verbosity, then up or down arrow to "low" and press space. It alters how 
> messages are read in the Messages Table.
> 
> I set up an activity to do this automatically when Mail is active, but it now 
> takes a long time to switch to or from Mail. To do this, just go to 
> Activities in the VO Utility, add a new one, check 'verbosity", set it to 
> low, then choose "Mail" from the applications popup button.
> On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> Could you please explain more about the verbosity please? I played around 
>> with it after reading your text and thought I changed it but no difference.
>> 
>> The mail app is driving me crazy. I love threading but this is rediclous.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
>>> "disclosure triangle" and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so 
>>> i set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a 
>>> couple years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really 
>>> slow, as in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to 
>>> use the app. Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 
>>> 8gb of ram, so i figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long 
>>> today as it did two years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this 
>>> problem? Is this universal, or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
>>> 
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>>> mehg...@icloud.com
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Re: buying new iMac

2014-04-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Really? That I did not know. I will keep that in mind when I upgrade my Macbook 
Pro to SSd and move my HDD to the DVD drive bay.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Apr 24, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> Unfortunately, the bootcamp uses the hard drive only. This means bootcamp 
> works well on iMac, but do not use the ssd only the hard drive part of the 
> fusion drive. So bootcamp is not as fast as it would be on a single sad drive.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 24. apr. 2014 kl. 16:56 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Fusion drive is physically two drives but you only see it as one.  
> Similar to a RAID setup but actually different.  The Fusion drive does make 
> your system considerably quicker and, if you have the cash, I totally 
> recommend it.  I'm not really sure how BootCamp handles the Fusion drives but 
> I'd be surprised if there were any problems.  Probably best to do a Google 
> search on BootCamp and Fusion drive and see what comes up.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Juan Hernandez  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I have just subscribed to this list.  I was subscribed to this list way back 
>> in the day, about 8-9 years ago and now I am coming back.
>> 
>> I had a question.  I am buying a new iMac in the next few days, and I wanted 
>> to know something about the fusion drives.
>> 
>> The fusion drives, is it a flash dssd and a harddisk on one unit?  When in 
>> mac os x, does it recognize the drive as one big drive, or two separate 
>> drives? 
>> 
>> How does bootcamp deal with the fusion drives?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
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Dual booting on a Mac.

2013-12-15 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone,

This is my first post. My name is Daniel Hawkins, I have been completely blind 
for just over a year now. I just got my Macbook Pro last May. I have been 
slowly learning on how to use the Mac interface and Voiceover. Since my goal is 
to be an accessabilty trainer, I need to learn everything about technology for 
the blind. So what I want to do is dual boot or triple boot on my Macbook. From 
what I understand, Bootcamp does only one extra OS. So I was told to use 
rEFINd, to make multiple partitions. however I think learning rEFINd is a 
little over my head and I don’t know if it is accessible.

So my question is, do you guys know a way to dual boot to Windows 7 and or 8, 
and maybe a Linux or two?

If anyone know an accessible way, or a link that can explain that, I’d very 
very much appreciate that.

Thanks!
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Re: VM Fusion and Window-Eyes

2013-12-20 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Cool! I just had help Installing Windows 7 on my Mac yesterday and I have NVDA 
installed.

Since I’m really new to accessabilty, did you needed help installing Windows 7? 

Also do you know how to get more than two OS on a Mac? I heard that Bootcamp 
won’t allow you to have more than two.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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Dual Boot:
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On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Jody Peterson  wrote:

> All,
> 
> I have set up a bootcamp partition and I have Windows7 running on it with 
> Jaws 15.  This works very well .  I used SharpKeys to swap the command and 
> option keys when in the bootcamp setup.  I have also installed the keyboard 
> hack and keyremap for macbook  stuff to allow me to use the caps lock key for 
> a screen reader modifier.  So, all is well in bootcamp land.
> 
> I also used VMWare Fusion 6 to import my bootcamp partition  as a VM.
> 
> I am having a problem though that has been discussed on the list before 
> although I don’t  believe I have seen a solution.
> 
> When working in VMware in Windows7 with JAWS running, I am having trouble 
> with some JFW commands not working.  Commands that use key combos on the left 
> side of the keyboard work fine, but, commands that use keys on the right hand 
> side of the keyboard are not working.  For example, Jawskey + I is not 
> reading the current line.  My guess is that this has something to do with the 
> VMWare key mappings, or something with all the variations of key remappings 
> that are being done.  I have removed the Sharpkeys settings while in VMWare 
> as the remappings can be done with VMWare itself, but, still no luck.
> 
> Do any of the JFW users out there have a solution that will fix this issue?
> 
> Most of my work is required to be done in Windows, however, I would rather do 
> it on the VM side so I still have my MAC apps available to me.
> 
> Thanks all for any suggestions,
> 
> JP
> 
> On Dec 10, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
>> I used the keyboard settings in the Mac settings to switc
>> h them one for the other.  It makes it a lot easier to use a PC keyboard.  
>> But even on my Mac keyboard Window-Eyes seems to be interferring with my 
>> ability to use Option-tab to tab between programs, that keyboard has factory 
>> settings.
>> On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:22 PM, BBS  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's odd. On my keyboard, the Windows key is the command key.
>>> 
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Re: virtualization solutions

2013-12-29 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello all,

I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.

I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?

>From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is not 
>accessible? Or is there an solution?

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:

>  thanks a ton for these  links, that's awesome.
> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb ram, so I 
> figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test my libraries and that 
> on BSD as well.
> HTH:
> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all.
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
>> 
>> http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html
>> 
>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
>> 
>> Gena
>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never able to 
>>> find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started with the command 
>>> line interface to Virtualbox. Still, it is definitely worth looking into.
>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought Virtualbox was controllable through the terminal so you don't 
>>>> have to use the GUI. From the manual:
>>>> 
>>>> "VBoxManage is the command-line interface to VirtualBox. With it, you can 
>>>> completely control VirtualBox from the command line of your host operating 
>>>> system. VBoxManage supports all the features that the graphical user 
>>>> interface gives you access to, but it supports a lot more than that. It 
>>>> exposes really all the features of the virtualization engine, even those 
>>>> that cannot (yet) be accessed from the GUI."
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
>>>> 
>>>> It's free so why not give it a try.
>>>> 
>>>> CB
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/28/13 2:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>> Fusion is $60 last I checked, at least for a personal license. No, 
>>>>> virtualbox is not at all accessible. Someone once posted a quick tutorial 
>>>>> on using it to set up a VM on Windows which you'd then import to the Mac. 
>>>>> Still, when I gave it a try, audio in the vm was extremely low and 
>>>>> nothing I did would bring it up. I find Fusion to be better, plus, of 
>>>>> course, the preferences and other settings are accessible.
>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hello:
>>>>>> I had a quick question. I don't have the $100 something for vmware 
>>>>>> fusion, but I wanted to install BSD on my IMac. Anyone know if 
>>>>>> virtualbox is accessible, or if there are other choices?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Ty
>>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he 
>>>>>> that dares not reason is a slave.
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Re: virtualization solutions

2013-12-29 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s why I 
did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.

I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?

My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.

Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these virtual 
app?

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:

> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows is 
> the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd instances.
> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run Windows 
>> on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is called 
>> parallels.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
>>> 
>>> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?
>>> 
>>> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is not 
>>> accessible? Or is there an solution?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>> 4GB DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  thanks a ton for these  links, that's awesome.
>>>> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb ram, so I 
>>>> figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test my libraries and 
>>>> that on BSD as well.
>>>> HTH:
>>>> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>>>>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> reggie and Allegra
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never able to 
>>>>>> find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started with the command 
>>>>>> line interface to Virtualbox. Still, it is definitely worth looking into.
>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I thought Virtualbox was controllable through the terminal so you don't 
>>>>>>> have to use the GUI. From the manual:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "VBoxManage is the command-line interface to VirtualBox. With it, you 
>>>>>>> can completely control VirtualBox from the command line of your host 
>>>>>>> operating system. VBoxManage supports all the features that the 
>>>>>>> graphical user interface gives you access to, but it supports a lot 
>>>>>>> more than that. It exposes really all the features of the 
>>>>>>> virtualization engine, even those that cannot (yet) be accessed from 
>>>>>>> the GUI."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's free so why not give it a try.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 12/28/13 2:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>> Fusion is $60 last I checked, at least for a personal license. No, 
>>>>>>>> virtualbox is not at all   accessible. Someone 
>>>>>>>> once posted a quick tutorial on using it to set up a VM on Windows 
>>>>>>>&g

How to Convert Daisy books

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello Listers,

Since I listen to my Talking Book a lot, I been wanting to put it on a iPod 
shuffle. I have a Macbook and have been doing research on Daisy Talking Book 
and found Orearia for the Mac so I can listen on the Mac. however I can’t seem 
to figure out how to load a book on.

Now for converting DTB to mp3 or to iTunes, I found DTB to iTunes. However 
after spending three days trying to figure out how to load a book, I found out 
that you first need to decrypt the file using DTBmaker. Now I found the link 
for that, but the website is not there.

Does anyone know a way to upload Talking Books to a non IOS device. Yes I know 
about BARD Mobil, and I’m am tired of hearing you got a message or touching the 
screen since it can’t go into lock screen.

Any info on this I will find very very helpful.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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Re: virtualization solutions

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Chris,

Thanks for that info. I was told when I got my Mac that Virtual box was not 
access able, so that why I used Bootcamp to dual boot. But thanks for pointing 
out that Fusion is fully accessible. So maybe later on I will try that out wen 
I want to learn Windows 8.

Does anyone know how to install Windows on their own if you are completely 
blind? I take it installation is same when you use a virtual box?
Daniel Hawkins
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2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use 
> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a 
> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS 
> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so 
> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but 
> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual 
> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would 
> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code 
> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the 
> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but 
> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from 
> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few 
> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not 
> free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only 
> while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on 
> Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine app 
> itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As 
> previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as 
> accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you must 
> have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac 
> into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I haven't tried 
> this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make a nice 
> high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to boot in 
> either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other requires a 
> reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. 
> So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or 
> vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine 
> hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows 
> virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard 
> drive, not your entire Mac drive.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>> 
>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>> 
>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
>> virtual app?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows 
>>> is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd 
>>> instances.
>>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>>> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
>>>> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is 
>>>> called parallels.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
>>>>> 
>>>

Re: virtualization solutions

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Really?! How did you pull that off installing Windows with no sighted 
assistance? Is there a step by step directions for a blind user that can 
install Windows? I searched everywhere on Google, and I can’t find anything. Or 
I’m just not looking at the right place.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> Daniel,
> If you use fusion, you won’t need sighted assistance.  You can either use a 
> physical dvd if you have one or an iso file.
> 
> things can get hairy after the installation of windows before you get any 
> speech loaded, though.  This is my experience, anyway.  I have an 
> installation of win 7 right now and I can’t get past the darn log in screen 
> using narrater, but this is my only choice  til I can get the desk top 
> visible.
> Anyway, good luck!
> Caitlyn
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Thanks for that info. I was told when I got my Mac that Virtual box was not 
>> access able, so that why I used Bootcamp to dual boot. But thanks for 
>> pointing out that Fusion is fully accessible. So maybe later on I will try 
>> that out wen I want to learn Windows 8.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to install Windows on their own if you are completely 
>> blind? I take it installation is same when you use a virtual box?
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps 
>>> which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch 
>>> one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most 
>>> people use them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally 
>>> will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible 
>>> as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some 
>>> overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated 
>>> hardware, but for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had 
>>> a virtual windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. 
>>> Office would pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the 
>>> Windows code would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is 
>>> actually the virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That 
>>> little bit of redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. 
>>> VirtualBox is free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can 
>>> control it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible 
>>> as is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special 
>>> running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can 
>>> ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare can 
>>> also run under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, 
>>> that means the virtual machine app itself where you tell how much memory to 
>>> give to the virtual PC and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under 
>>> VMWare, for instance, will be just as accessible (or not) as it would be 
>>> running on a real Dell box. If you must have every last bit of speed you 
>>> can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct 
>>> access to the hardware. I haven't tried this but reviews I've read said 
>>> that the current MacBooks make a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside 
>>> is you have to do some setup to boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' 
>>> and switching from one to the other requires a reboot. With virtual 
>>> machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. So you can, for 
>>> example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or vice versa. 
>>> Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine hard drive 
>>> is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows virus that 
>>> formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard drive, 
>>> not your entire Mac drive.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>>>> Really?! L

Re: How to Convert Daisy books

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
David,

Shucks, thought I’d ask. There is an app called DTB to iTunes, and under the 
help info they said you can decrypt it by using DTBmaker, so I was wondering if 
anyone knows about it.

Guess I will just use my old 3gs as a decimated player.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:43 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> Unfortunately, you cannot do what you are requesting. All DTB books are copy 
> protected. This means, they can only play in NLS approved players which have 
> been unlocked, or in the BARD Mobile app which you have signed in on and your 
> credentials have been verified by NLS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 3 Jan 2014, at 4:31, Daniel Hawkins  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> Since I listen to my Talking Book a lot, I been wanting to put it on a iPod 
>> shuffle. I have a Macbook and have been doing research on Daisy Talking Book 
>> and found Orearia for the Mac so I can listen on the Mac. however I can’t 
>> seem to figure out how to load a book on.
>> 
>> Now for converting DTB to mp3 or to iTunes, I found DTB to iTunes. However 
>> after spending three days trying to figure out how to load a book, I found 
>> out that you first need to decrypt the file using DTBmaker. Now I found the 
>> link for that, but the website is not there.
>> 
>> Does anyone know a way to upload Talking Books to a non IOS device. Yes I 
>> know about BARD Mobil, and I’m am tired of hearing you got a message or 
>> touching the screen since it can’t go into lock screen.
>> 
>> Any info on this I will find very very helpful.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
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Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone,

Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister have 
been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I jumped to a 
Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to Mac. One problem 
she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach her. So I did 
research allay, and I found out that you can print braille using Openoffice or 
libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.

Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not accessible 
on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two apps won’t run 
at all.

So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only solution 
is to still run Windows?

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
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Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

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