Re: iTunes iCloud
Hello I think it makes much more sense if you think of iCloud as the new central place where you buy, manage and control the syncing of all your content (music, podcasts, books, apps, bookmarks, etc.). Up until now that place was one particular instance of iTunes running on your primary Mac or PC, which meant that if you had more than one Mac/PC it was really chaotic to manage. Now the Macs/PCs are just another device... welcome to the post-PC era :-) Like John Gruber says: "iCloud is the new iTunes. The tethered digital hub is dead; long live the wireless digital hub" http://daringfireball.net/2011/06/demoted Cheers, André On Jun 7, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Shen wrote: > OK, let me see if I can try to reduce some of the confusion. If not, > feel free to check out the WWDC coverage on Cnet. I get all my info > from them. > > When you buy music on Amazon.com, you can have it available as > download, or via streaming in your Amazon cloud player. Music you > purchase does not count towards your quota on the Amazon Cloud Player. > Why is that? That's because Amazon knows you purchased it, so it makes > the music available. It doesn't make a physical copy and put it in > your Cloud. > This is the same concept with iTunes. > The 5GB storage is for your documents, photos, bookmarks, contacts, > calendar, but not music. Music is downloaded to your device, not kept > in your 5GB storage and not for streaming. > iTunes keeps a record of your purchases so when you connect to a > registered device, it downloads all your content. > > hth > > > > > > > > > > On 6/7/11, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> Well, I truly am confused. Here's a quote from Apple: >> >> "When you sign up for iCloud, you automatically get 5GB of free storage. And >> that’s plenty of room, because of the way iCloud stores your content. Your >> purchased music, apps, and books, as well as your Photo Stream, don’t count >> against your free storage. That leaves your mail, documents, Camera Roll, >> account information, settings, and other app data. And since those things >> don’t use as much space, you’ll find that 5GB goes a long way." >> >> http://www.apple.com/icloud/what-is.html >> >> Teresa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Shen > goalb...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible FTP Client
Hello, You can also access any FTP server directly from Finder. Just press Command-k and in the server address enter something like: ftp://username:password@ftp.server.address It's a very basic FTP client and it does tend to hang if you access directories with a lot of files, but for a quick copy of files it's ok. HTH, André On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > What I did recently was get Transmit, which is not free but has a seven-day > trial. Then, after putting in the domain and user name and password, I chose > the "Mount as disk," button. This let me quit Transmit and use Finder to > copy/paste or delete from the FTP site or whatever. Really easy this way. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Mail or gmail, pop or imap
Hello, I second that. POP is a protocol meant for the downloading of all the messages that the server as received for you, since the last time you connected. It has no notion of folders or message status. IMAP was designed to synchronize messages between your mail client and the server, so it's perfect for sharing mailboxes across multiple computers and/or IOS devices, or to keep a permanent copy of all your mail in a server, as a backup, to also access it via webmail, etc. There's a very useful article on how to best use IMAP, GMail and the Mail.app: http://db.tidbits.com/article/10253 HTH, André On Jul 9, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I've used both pop and Imap with Gmail and they both work. I'm really liking > Imap, because I'm using online labels and filters so I don't get tons of > mailing-list messages on my IPod, and I can simply check whichever label I > want to online. > > HTH, > Teresa > On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Cakes wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Can you guys chime in on what email client you like and which protocol pop >> or imap you prefer and perhaps a little explanation why you choose what you >> choose for emailing? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Johnny >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: configuration for VM fusion?
HelloKliph, I'm not using Fusion currently, but maybe the RAM configuration is just showing in megabytes instead of gigabytes? 1 Gigabyte (GB) is 1024 Megabytes (MB), so to give 2 GB of RAM to your VM, for instance, just specify 2048. This has the advantage of allowing you to specify less rounded numbers, like 1536 (1.5 GB). Likewise, maybe the disk space is showing as a percentage of your free disk space. So, if you had 400 GB of available space, specifying 25% would mean your VM could at the most use 100 GB of disk space. Hope I added to the solution, not the confusion :-) André On Jul 9, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > >> >>> Okay, got windows all installed thanks to my sited wife. The thing that is >>> getting me, when I go to assign the ram and hard drive space, it's not >>> showing me my choices in ram or GB's, it says something about 1024 MB and >>> 32.26 percent. Is there a way to change this? >>> I mean, everyone I ask says assign this much ram, this much hard drive >>> space, but fusion isn't showing it to me in ram or hard drive space, at >>> least not in the way I'm use to seeing it. Any takers for this one? >>> Kliphton SR >>> (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 >>> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com >>> Sent from my IMac >>> >> >> >> >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu >> (E-mail/MSN): >> kawal_gucuko...@sent.com >> >> (Skype ID): >> >> kawalgucukoglu >> >> (Mobile/text): >> >> +447905618396 >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: complex networking question (double nating)
Hello Scott, AFAIK, you always need public addresses for both ends of an IPv6 tunnel, because they are included in the payload as part of the protocol. This means your IPv6 network would have to be connected to the SMC and this router would have to support IPv6 tunneling. For normal Internet access I don't think you'll have any problems. Basically the address re-writing and port forwarding that allows NAT to work should make each NAT "invisible" to the other. MAC address filtering is a really weak security measure for WiFi, but it's also a very common feature in cable/ADSL routers. Are you sure the SMC one doesn't support it? HTH, André On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > All, > > Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I was > provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a switch > consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router plugged into the > SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is configured to handout > DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its address, but I also am > handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices on my private network. I > actually am using DHCP reservations and for a specific reason. > I have setup mac address filtering to control certain machines on the > network. Unfortunately the SMC lacks some of the features for controlling > machines that are found in the Apple router. However, this double nat > situation can and has created some issues for me. I could of course just > bridge the AirPort and give up the whole deal on controlling machines on the > network. That may very well end up being necessary in the end; however, > before I do so, I wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts. I did a little > searching around on Google, but unfortunately I'm not sure exactly what to > look for either. I don't think Google would take my message as a search term > either. :) > Although I do not have any plans to do this, the advantage of double nat in > this case is I could strap three more routers onto the gateway (SMC) and have > some fun. Now maybe there is a way around all of this, but seems the current > issue is IP6 tunneling, but I am more concerned if this could pose problems > with other services. So, thoughts welcome and I'll keep poking around and see > what I can learn. The good thing is that all seems to be working for the most > part, so this is not a critical need situation. Just need to make sure I can > vpn into the network at the office. :) > > Thanks, > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash to HTML5; Can it be done?
Hello Doug, Google has made available a flash to HTML converter called Swiffy: http://swiffy.googlelabs.com/ I saw a reference to it in daringfireball.net, but never used it :-) Hope it's useful... André On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: > Hello list: > I am looking for either a Safari Extension or plugin that will allow me to > convert any flash video to HTML5. I've seem extensions that will let me do > this with Youtube videos but not videos from other sites. I'm taking a course > that has lots of flash videos and am wondering if there is something > available that can do this. > > Thanks in advance, > > Doug > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: maybe my macbook is too hot? was Re: can't get my macbook to stay shut down
Hello Christina, Go to Apple (control F2), System Preferences, Energy Saver. Select the "Power Adapter" tab. If you have "Wake for Network Access" checked, uncheck it. This option means your computer can be turned on by certain requests from your network, especially if you have an Airport router. I found this link in the Apple support forums discussing this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2567656?start=0&tstart=0 They are discussing a different problem from yours, but still the first entries help to understand what may be happening to your machine. HTH, André On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Christina wrote: > Thanks. Well, I thought I had figured it out. I shut down my macbook last > night and this morning it was back on. :(. I either did not cool it down > enough or that was not the problem. Maybe my macbook is haunted. I'll check > out the fan utility and keep you all posted if I figure it out. > > Christina > On Jul 16, 2011, at 9:59 PM, CJ Daniel wrote: > >> Christine, >> >> Actually, Ray & I just went through this on this list. There were a lot of >> opinions. But, after researching in many places, both Ray & I installed a >> little utility called FanControl. My MBP, which used to run pretty hot, is >> pretty cool all the time. >> >> In reading posts around the web, I found that the MBP is notorious for heat. >> The case is designed as a sort of heat-sinc itself. And, it is a pretty >> common misconception to believe that your fans are only coming on >> occasionally. Actually, when you hear them, they're moving from normal to >> hyper mode. They're, pretty much, on most of the time...excluding the first >> little bit of time after the machine is turned on & still cool. FanControl >> installs easily & runs in the preferences area. With it, you can control >> when the fans come on, what speed they run at, etc. It's, pardon the pun, >> pretty cool...;-) >> >> Ray had played with it & came up with some nominal settings. He might want >> to chime in here. >> >> Anyway, check it out, >> >> CJ >> >> >> On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Christina wrote: >> So, I finally got my macbook to stay Shut down instead of spontaneously restarting a few minutes after I shut it off. So, I just had a theory that the folks at the apple store could get it to shut down and stay shut down because maybe my macbook had cooled off by then. So, I put a fan blowing on my macbook and propped it up and let it "cool off". I shut my macbook down and then it stayed shut down until I restarted it. Could this be the reason my macbook keeps restarting all on it's own? How do I know if my macbook is overheating? I know the obvious of it feeling hot. It does feel hot but it has always felt kind of hot or warm. The internal fan rarely comes on. It only comes on if I'm really working the system with video or something like that, but that's pretty uncommon. >>> >>> Thanks for all the help. I did check the "schedule" section and all seemed >>> fine there and I am definitely navigating to the Shut down button and I am >>> not using the restart button. >>> >>> Have a super weekend and thanks, >>> Christina On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Christina wrote: > Hi all, > > Every time I shutdown my macbook it won't stay off. No, I am not hitting > restart instead of shut down. A couple of months ago I had to take my > mac book to the genius bar so I kept shutting down the computer and it > kept restarting. I wanted to turn the computer off before I put it into > the bag. Well, I told them about it at the apple store and the problem > would not reproduce. Last week I had to travel and I encountered the > same problem when trying to pack my laptop. I thought I finally got it > to stay shut off but it restarted all on it's own in the bag. So, > tonight, I tried to google the problem and I cannot find any help. I > have very recently repaired permissions so I don't think that would be > helpful. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Christina > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?h
Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th
Hello, For those of us who like to cross check our sources :-) http://www.macworld.com/article/161215/2011/07/lion_ships_wednesday.html Cheers, André On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > I don't believe that was said in the call. I assume 10 AM PDT, 1PM EDT. > This is when such updates are usually pushed out. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 19, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> Do we know around what time? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: "Macvisionaries" >> Cc: "Mobile Access Access" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:57 PM >> Subject: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th >> >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Apple announced today in their 3rd quarter earnings call that Lion will be >>> available in the Mac app store tomorrow, July 20th. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion is now on the app store
Hello all, For those who want to know more about Lion before jumping in, check John Siracusa's totally thorough review on ArsTechnica: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars Obviously, it's from a sighted person's point of view, but still very interesting. Cheers, André On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Mary, > Indeed it is. There is an option to use the classic layout, more or less > identical to the SL way of doing things. This is in the View tab of Mail > preferences. You can use VO to read only subject lines in the same way you > do now. > Best, > Zack. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> I haven't downloaded Lion yet. I hope there is a way to make mail act like >> it did in SL with respect to how much you hear when arrowing through the >> messages table. I want only the subject line. The rest is so much unwanted >> chat from my point of view, slowing the speed with which one can move >> through a ton of messages, many of which get deleted without reading, based >> on their subject line. Is it still possible to set things up such that the >> column you're on when you arrow is the only thing that is read as you move >> down? >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion
Hello, In Snow Leopard, Safari 5.1 now has the option in Preferences, General, "Safari opens with" that you can set to: "All windows from last session" or "A new window". This last one means Safari doesn't remember the tabs and windows you had opened in the previous session. Sorry if this has nothing to do with Safari's preferences in Lion... I decided to wait a few days and let the dust settle. HTH, André On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:23 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > John is correct. As mentioned in a separate thread, you can use the > cmd-option-q which will Quit and Discard Windows, thus allowing you to > startup Safari from your Homepage. Alternatively, you can go into your > system Preferences, select the General pane and uncheck the box for > Recovering Windows. It sometimes doesn't take effect right away, but it > will. If you have problems with this, please repost and someone will assist. > > Later… > > On 2011-07-23, at 2:11 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> Have you tried quitting Safari with, option-command-q instead of just >> command-q? I believe this will close all of the active Safari Windows and >> will not have them open next time you start Safari. >> >> Take Care >> >> John Panarese >> jpanar...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Shen wrote: >> >>> Teresa, >>> I saw that too, but it's not a checkbox. It's an option that lets Safari >>> open all the windows from the last session. >>> So that doesn't work. >>> Looks like 1 way of doing this is when I am done and about to quit Safari, >>> close all tabs and windows, then open my home page, then quit. >>> I can't imagine there is no way to just open the home page instead of all >>> windows from last session. Otherwise, what's the point of a home page? >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> In the history menu in Safari, uncheck "Reopen all windows from last session". HTH, Teresa On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Shen wrote: > Hello, > Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I > prefer to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now > opening all the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far as > I can find, there is no setting to change that. The other little quirk I > have is whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver doesn't always put me > in the html content and start interacting with it. I have to press > VO-Shift-Down Arrow to start interacting with it. The second issue is not > that bad, but just a little annoying. > I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home page > and not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time before quitting > Safari. > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's an >> issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the thing, if >> not, ask a question here, after the frustration has settled, and if that >> doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples Accessibility team. I've >> got a couple issues i'm investigating now, one of them are on-topic >> here, and it's about how i go about having Safari not to open all the >> pages i had up last every time i open a new page. It makes sense when >> first starting Safari directly, but if there's a page i want to read, i >> don't want to have to close all the other pages that pop up and taking >> focus away from the page i want to read. Surely there must be a setting >> somewhere, only i can't find it. >> /Krister >> >> 23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook: >> >>> And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or >>> lion. The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, >>> freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and >>> safari apparently can't handle direct ftp links. If you REALLY want to >>> download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads. >>> Frankly, the whole item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much as >>> the web roder has always worked for me and that is for the web. I am >>> glad I upgraded, and I'm even getting used to the new mail. I think we >>> all just need to calm down a bit. As far as apple not caring, just >>> because they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't care. They don't >>> talk to anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I really hope you get >>> your power situation straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion >>> issue either. Calm down everyone. :) >>> Chris Westbrook >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>> Hi guys. Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two d
Re: apple tv and voiceover
Hi all, First time I'm posting here, so excuse any blunders. There's a short guide on how to activating VO on the Apple TV at: http://outofthedarkness.vipbc.org/2010/11/23/apple-tv-a-look-at-where-we-are-regarding-apple-tvs-accessibility-and-how-we-got-here/ HTH, Andre On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > You'll have to turn it on. Maybe someone can give you instructions. > > Kev > On Dec 3, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> Our apple tv box has been updated to v4.1 but we have no voiceover. Is this >> the correct version and how do I get vo going? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Text navigation and selection was Re: macbook pro command
Hello erik/all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 3:57 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: (snip, snip) > Move to the beginning or end of the line, control left and right arrow. Hmmm, on my mbp 13" it's command left and right arrow. Your mistake or could there be some kind of regional variation, as I have the portuguese keyboard. Just curious, André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Text navigation and selection was Re: macbook pro command
Hi Marlaina, There seems to be a slight difference between "editing mode" and "read-only mode". When reading a mail or browsing a Webpage, only command left or right arrow works. When editing text, both control and command work. Oh well... André PS: Oh, and thanks Erik for the original info, very useful! On Dec 14, 2010, at 12:41 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > Andre, > > It is as Erik described it on my MacBook Air and MacBook Pro. > > Marlaina > On Dec 13, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: > > Hello erik/all, > On Dec 13, 2010, at 3:57 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > (snip, snip) >> Move to the beginning or end of the line, control left and right arrow. > > Hmmm, on my mbp 13" it's command left and right arrow. > Your mistake or could there be some kind of regional variation, as I have the > portuguese keyboard. > > > Just curious, > André > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VOCheat Sheet, was: How to interact with a folder.
Marlaina, It's not like "press alt f4 to shut the door", but I find Appendix A of the VoiceOver guide very useful as a kind of cheat sheet: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1131.html HTH, André On Dec 18, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > Ah, I did that and it worked. Wow, I knew about command shift h but forgot I > knew it. Using that and command shift k, I can get easily from my Netgear > and my mac files. I wish there were some really good tutorials available > that would help drill some of this stuff into newbies or oldbies like me. > When I use to teach windows, I'd use little sayings with my students like > press alt f4 to shut the door; this helped them remember. I can't come up > with any such little cutesy things for the Mac OS. It's hard to remember all > these things if you don't use them on a regular basis. But, obviously many > of you have done just that. Any tips and tricks to start remembering all > this stuff would be really appreciated. But, command shift h is one I'll > never forget again! > > Marlaina > > > On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > You have to be in an area with folders files or apps besides the desktop. So > from your finder, press command shift H, to go to your user folder. Now > press command 3 and voiceover will announce column checked. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Dec 17, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> Ok so when in finder, I pressed command 3 but vo didn't say anything. >> Should it have said column mode? >> >> Marlaina >> On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >> Riczrdo: You may ave solved for me the silly issue I've had wondering why >> some things and folders don't work the way they did. Obviously, I haven't >> yet mastered the modes thingie very well in terms of knowing what works best. >> Thanks. >> >> Carolyn H >> On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I use column mode myself. with this, pressing right arrow to open, and >>> left arrow to close a folder, works 100% of the time. From the finder you >>> can press command 3 to display finder contents in column mode. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>> You can use the right arrow to open a folder in browser or list view mode of a finder window. They behave a little differently though, in list mode the list gets longer and in browser mode you get moved over a column. Rading a description of browser mode would probably be hhelpful to folks that do a lot of scanning through folders. I will try to explain... In browser mode there are three or four columns available. The left most column is the highest in the set of folders currently visible. If one turns on "preview" mode for the browser then the right most column will have a Large icon of the folder and a bit more directory / file information (including I believe a "start playing" button for A/V files. What I reallylike about the browser mode, is that if you hit right arrow to view a folder hitting left arrow will bring you to the enclosing folde inwith the folder you just left selected. So if I am looking at "Library/Application Support/Apple" and hit a right arrow "Apple" will be selected and I can hit down arrow to see what the next item in "Library/Application Support" is. in a finder or window or a file selection dialog box, hitting command-3 will put you in browser mode. Best regards, Jon On 16 December 2010 12:33, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote: It seems like at level 0 you have to do cmd down arrow but at 1 or 2 you do right arrow, I tried to discover a consistent pattern with this but thus far always at 0 cmd down arrow will open. Marlaina On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:22 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Jim: Try using commando to open the folder. Or, also, command-down-arrow will open the folder for you. I believe there's something that gets tweeked and changes this pattern of interaction. Because, there are times when simply right arrowing will open a folder, and there are other times it needs the command-o. HTH Carolyn Haas On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Jim Barbour wrote: > Howdy Folks, > > Using voice over, I'm trying to bring up a terminal, which is in the > applications folder. So far, I'm failing to figure out how to > navigate into and around the Applications folder. > > Can someone let me know how to go about this? > > Here's what I've
Re: VOCheat Sheet, was: How to interact with a folder.
for an intro to Apple products with VoiceOver, check also VisionAustralia's podcasts: http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2287#contentstart very simple and easy to follow, but with a aussie accent :-) HTH, André On Dec 18, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > Thanks so much for this. I guess I need to understand more about what some > of the things mean. For example, (and I have not looked at the url you sent > yet), but in the commands help area there's a command that says something > like move a bit left or move a bit right. Now intuitively, I know what those > words mean but I'll be darned if I know when to use them. That's what I mean > when I say for a new Mac user, I wish Apple had been a bit more descriptive. > But, I'm not complaining and I'm not giving up. > > Marlaina > > > On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: > > Marlaina, > > It's not like "press alt f4 to shut the door", but I find Appendix A of the > VoiceOver guide very useful as a kind of cheat sheet: > http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1131.html > > > HTH, > André > > On Dec 18, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> Ah, I did that and it worked. Wow, I knew about command shift h but forgot >> I knew it. Using that and command shift k, I can get easily from my Netgear >> and my mac files. I wish there were some really good tutorials available >> that would help drill some of this stuff into newbies or oldbies like me. >> When I use to teach windows, I'd use little sayings with my students like >> press alt f4 to shut the door; this helped them remember. I can't come up >> with any such little cutesy things for the Mac OS. It's hard to remember >> all these things if you don't use them on a regular basis. But, obviously >> many of you have done just that. Any tips and tricks to start remembering >> all this stuff would be really appreciated. But, command shift h is one >> I'll never forget again! >> >> Marlaina >> >> >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You have to be in an area with folders files or apps besides the desktop. >> So from your finder, press command shift H, to go to your user folder. Now >> press command 3 and voiceover will announce column checked. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: >> >>> Ok so when in finder, I pressed command 3 but vo didn't say anything. >>> Should it have said column mode? >>> >>> Marlaina >>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>> >>> Riczrdo: You may ave solved for me the silly issue I've had wondering why >>> some things and folders don't work the way they did. Obviously, I haven't >>> yet mastered the modes thingie very well in terms of knowing what works >>> best. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Carolyn H >>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I use column mode myself. with this, pressing right arrow to open, and >>>> left arrow to close a folder, works 100% of the time. From the finder you >>>> can press command 3 to display finder contents in column mode. >>>> >>>> hth >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>> >>>>> You can use the right arrow to open a folder in browser or list view mode >>>>> of a finder window. They behave a little differently though, in list >>>>> mode the list gets longer and in browser mode you get moved over a >>>>> column. >>>>> >>>>> Rading a description of browser mode would probably be hhelpful to folks >>>>> that do a lot of scanning through folders. I will try to explain... >>>>> >>>>> In browser mode there are three or four columns available. The left most >>>>> column is the highest in the set of folders currently visible. If one >>>>> turns on "preview" mode for the brows
Re: jumping to text on a webpage
Hello all, Personally I prefer the QuickNav and the Web rotor. Just press right and left arrow simultaneously to activate it. When in QuickNav mode, up or down arrow jumps to previous or next item on the page, and left + up arrow or right + up arrow changes to previous or next item type. Item types include Headings, Links, Form Controls and Static Text, among others that usually have a dedicated shortcut key in other screen readers. HTH, André On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Do you mean the Items Chooser menu? I'm sure you know about this very useful > tool; VO I pulls it up, type in the search text you want, then arrow down and > press VO space when you hear t. > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Haunted mail
Hi Carolyn, Did you call Ghostbusters? :-) Seriously, are you using IMAP? If so, try synchronizing your mail accounts. Do VO + m, right arrow until you reach the "Mailbox" menu, and select "synchronize all accounts". Hope this helps, André On Dec 21, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi again guys: > Carolyn here. Two very strange things have happened today that are makng me > uneasy. First, all my macvisionary messages that I had retained disappeared. > Then, a whole mailbox I had created as a filter disappeared. And, finally, > a third thing is keyboard commander again became disabled, with no > intervention from me. Anyone had weird happenings like this? TIA for any > info, or perhaps a mac-exorcist.:) > Caroolyn Haas > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Folders in the Doc answer
Hello all, Personally, I prefer to place aliases on the desktop for the folders I most use. I find the dock most useful to start an application while using another, for example: while in Mail, do VO d and navigate to Safari to launch it. Just my 0.2 Euros...nowadays worthing less and less :-) André On Jan 7, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It's a quicker way to get to things you use frequently. Think of it like a > task bar wherein you can access apps and documents and folders you use lot.! > On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Colin and others: >> This is strange, listening to this conversation. I never use the doc at >> all. Is there a primary advantage to doing so? >> >> Carolyn >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah! >>> Have you had a look how yours is set in the downloads on your doc? >>> It would be interesting to see how yours is, and any differences! :] >>> Colin >>> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >>> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >>> >>> On 7 Jan 2011, at 17:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Really I have to hit vo shift m and arrow to open and only then will it open in the finder. S On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi John! > No I'm looking at the right place! > I forgot to put date added as well! > But all the display as and things buttons are all dimmed! > So I've got date added stack and automatic! > And it works ok! > Colin > I'm far too bad for Heaven! > The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! > > On 7 Jan 2011, at 17:28, Jon Cohn wrote: > >> You are looking at the wrong item then... There are three checked items >> in the menu. >> 1. Sort Order >> 2. How the Folder icon shows in the Doc (Folder or Stack) >> 3. What the folder displays as when activated from the Doc. >> >> Jon >> >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi there! >>> I had a look how mine was set up I've never changed it! >>> Mine is set as stack and automatic and mine has always worked! >>> Colin >>> I'm far too bad for Heaven! >>> The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! >>> >>> On 7 Jan 2011, at 16:41, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> VO SHFT m then arrow to open. Good luck. On 07/01/2011, at 6:55 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > >>> On a completely unrelated issue, how do I open the various folders >>> which are on my Dock? >>> Cmd+o, enter, and VO+space have all failed to do the expected thing. >>> Any information on these two initial questions would be greatly >>> appreciated. >>> I'm starting to like the system already and will probably have more >>> as >>> I go along. > To make the folders in the Dock more friendly to VO, change the "View > Contents As" item in the contextual menu for the folder. > > 1. Open the Dock (control-F3 or VO-D) > 2. Type "Down" and you should then have the Downloads folder selected. > 3. VO-Shift-M to bring up the contextual menu. > 4. Find the grouping near the bottom for contents display. There are > 4 Options: > a) Fan > b) Grid > c) List > d) Automatic > > Select The List option, and then command space or space will show you > the contents of that folder. > > If you are often going to a specific item in the Dock, you can set up > a hotspot for that item this should work. > > Best wishes, > Best wishes, > > Jon > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For mor
Re: a fabulous experience with my MacBook Air
Nah...the flying part is ok.. The taking off and landing buttons are the ones which aren't accessible :-) Ok, ok... I'll have another sip of Glenlivet and shut up. André On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Cheree wrote: > Cheree Heppe here: > > Well, I will never be flying the plane, and that's a certainty, which is why > the wine is even a consideration. > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 08/01/2011, at 15:11, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Cheree, >> >> I love it. Try both and you may end up in a brave new world, LOL! >> >> Marlaina >> >> On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Cheree wrote: >> >> Cheree Heppe here: >> >> I don't see why we should have to choose between the wine and the >> connectivity. >> >> Next time I fly, I may try the wine, which may affect my accuracy if not my >> connectivity. >> >> >> Regards, >> Cheree Heppe >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 08/01/2011, at 15:01, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If they included the wireless thing in the price of the flight that would >>> be fine. I'd pay it if I were in a 14 hour flight which I hope I'm not any >>> time soon. *groans* >>> On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: >>> It would sure be nice if people could just appreciate that it was a cool experience. If I wanted two glasses of cheap wine, I'd pay nearly the $12.95 and have nowhere near the fun. I was just sharing how cool and accessible it all was. People spend money on what they enjoy and can afford. Can't we live and let live? On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: 14 each leg is rediculous othewise I might consider it although for even a 5 hour flight it isn't relaly worth the money I can take a book with me it should be free anwyay as much as they make you go through to fly thee days and as rediculous as airfare has gotten On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Cool deal! and have a safe trip. I normally take flights that transfer so > don't feel like payong $14 per trip. lol! but glad you had a good > experinec and maybe if you share this with other cariers they might be > willing to make there pages more accessibil as well. > > S > On Jan 3, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> Greetings to all from 33 thousand feet in the air. >> >> I am so excited to share that logging on to the Alaska Airlines inflight >> wireless was a fully accessible experience, including the lie chat I had >> to have with the agent because on their end, the page did not load >> properly in the account creation. I am sure I am not the first blind >> person to do this, but I just had to share the joy. Their CAPTHA is >> really interesting; they give you a small math problem to which you type >> the answer; mine was 8 plus 3 = and yes, I did know the answer, :) >> >> The person in the live chat was really great. I explained that I was >> using a screen reader and would be looking for the chat window so it >> might take a moment longer; they stuck with me all the way. Just had to >> share the joy from 33 thousand feet above the earth! >> >> Marlaina >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>
Re: Links and urls
Hello Sarah, While in QuickNav, change the rotter to "Links" and then jump (Up or Down arrow) to the link you want and VO Shift M should show the correct options. Of course, this also works with the TrackPad commander. HTH, André On Jan 14, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > that is if the web page can stay in focus. sometimes I get a back and forward > and some more but no copy link. I have to opent he page and do it that way > via the address bar. > > S > On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> VO+shift+m is equivalent to the right mouse button in windows, and you'll >> find a "copy link" option. >> >> HTH. >> Geoff >> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:48 PM, AZ wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> How can i copy a url of a link on a page? With Windows and Jaws it was not >>> a problem, i just made a right mouse button click. It worked too when i >>> saved the object as, now i'm wondering how to do this in MacOS X? >>> >>> AZ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Searching the Archive
Hello Paul, Besides the Google groups site that was already mentioned, you can also use: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ Personally, I find this site easier. HTH, André On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: > Hello everyone. Can someone tell me how to access and search the Archive so > that I don’t have to ask questions that have previously been answered? > > Thanks so much. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari question
Hello Marlaina , That's the bookmarks bar. You can toggle between showing it or not, I think it's in the View menu. Sorry, I'm not at my Mac right now so can't check it. HTH, André On 17-01-2011 11:12, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Hi all. When I tab around in Safari or open item chooser, I bump into some stuff that I have no idea why it apears each time. Wow, what a horrid sentence that was, :) Essentially, what is happening is that I am constantly seeing a few of my personally added bookmarks along with a bookmark to apple, wickipedia and others. It is annoying because each time I open item chooser, I have to down arrow through these ten or so items. I'm sorry I'm asking this question without really knowing how to refer to what I want to hide, but how do I get rid of these items so they do not appear? I tried hiding bookmarks but that didn't seem to do anything. Thanks so much for any assistance. Marlaina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple to Remove the Home Button from Future iPads and iPhones?
Ars Technica has an interesting article on why the Home button won't disappear for now: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/01/why-apple-wont-yet-ditch-the-home-button-on-the-iphone-and-ipad.ars Cheers, André On 17-01-2011 11:57, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: I was thinking about that as well actually. The only way I can see it working is if your fumb is at the bottom of the screen and your other 4 fingers are at the top. Even then, it doesn't sound overly smooth. I do like the idea of controling multitasking using jestures though; I always thought that the app switcher could have been a bit better ad that it could load a bit faster come to think of it. On 17/01/2011, Ricardo Walker wrote: I don't think this will effect VO accessibility much. They can simply turn it from triple press of home, to triple press of sleep/power button. As far as the iPhone is concerned, I'm more worried about these 4 and 5 finger gestures they're reportedly thinking about. It wouldn't be any trouble on a iPad with all that screen real estate but, on an iPhone? I couldn't imagine many adults being able to do a 5 finger pinch gesture with comfort. The screen is just too small. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Saw this story and thought I'd pass it along. This could spell trouble for some of the accessibility features on the iPhone, for example, triple-clicking the home button to toggle VO on and off. http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/13/apple-to-remove-home-button-from-future-ipads-and-iphones/ Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Router filtering webkit -> wasSafari weirdness.
Hello Geoff , Check your DNS configuration. Did you set it manually? If so, change it to DHCP and see if it helps. Also, what happens if you do a telnet to the webkit address from the terminal? HTH, André On 18-01-2011 18:23, Geoff Waaler wrote: Okay, I am officially replying to my own post. It's a long story, but to reduce it to the relevant facts, I am able to update webkit when I attach my MBP directly to the cable modem via eathernet. When routers are introduced into the circuit, however, I always experience the symptoms described below. I've seen this both with my Mother's Linksys router and my d-link DIR655 which are both at the latest available firmware levels. There is no filtering configured on either router, and until late December I had no problems updating webkit from either location. While visiting the Apple store I had no difficulty updating Webkit using their hotspot, hence I presume there must be a way to accomplish the task through routers. More over, I wouldn't be the only one posting on this. To reitterate, I have no web filtering active on either device, and as far as I know, only the webkit download and update check sites are affected. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Geoff On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, I'm having varied symptoms browsing on my MBP. Perhaps the two are related -- I'm guessing so. It all started when Webkit randomly hung up. I would press the submit button in a form and then Voiceover would repeatidly announce "safari busy" and "safari ready". Pressing a key did not take and I had to close and reopen the browser. Next, I was unable to update Webkit. Since that problem appeared to be unique to me I erased webkit.app and attempted to download the current build. For several days now I click on the download link and after about 30 seconds I receive the following message: Safari can’t open the page “http://nightly.webkit.org/” because the server where this page is located isn’t responding. I can't load that URL on my XP machine either, but can't imagine that my ISP is blocking it? I'm also having problems displaying other pages. For example, I'm attempting to register at the Apple developer site and it hangs after I press submit. I killed my cookies, but this had no affect. Could not find how to clear any other cache that could be a factor? Is it time to reinstall Snow leopard? Btw, version 10.6.7 is installed, but my problem began before this update was available. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: an accessible packet analyzer
Hello Matthew, Just in case you weren't aware, tcpdump comes bundled with SnowLeopard. HTH, André On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Yeah no problem. > I needed something for my TCPIP Applications class at college and wire shark > on mac and windows isn't at all accessible much to my annoyance. > > On 2011-01-19, at 1:54 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Matthew, this is a great find! >> >> Thank you so much for pointing this out. I've been looking for one. >> >> Thanks >> Scott >> >> On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >> >>> Hello Mac users. >>> For anyone in IT or anyone who is nurdy, try coco packet analyzer. >>> It is a wireshark alternative that seems to be accessible. >>> This piece of software analyzes network traffic. >>> Enjoy. >>> Matthew Campbell >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible kindle comes out for windows while Macs don't
If you look at what they did on smart phones, Amazon clearly prefers to sell as many ebooks to as many people as they can, instead of pushing a specific hardware, even when it's their own. This and the fact they only need to make the Kindle for Mac VoiceOver compatible, that is, no need to implement/maintain new features...why not? I really can't see a reason for them not to do it. Now, and what about the IOS app? :-) Always optimistic, André PS: An optimist always thinks things could be worse. A pessimist is sure of it. ;-) On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:44 PM, louie wrote: > I got a e-mail from Amazon and they said that they were working on it for the > Mac. > On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As a avid reader, I must say I'm pretty annoyed that Amazon has given us the >> short end of the stick as Apple device users once again. I just wondered if >> you guys thing this accessibility will find its way on to the Mac now that >> Amazon has shown blind windows users some love. I'm personally not holding >> my breath. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > louie > louiem...@wavecable.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vo on speech off
Hello, Ricardo means a three finger double tap :-) There's a very useful "cheat sheet" in the VO manual: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1131.html HTH, André On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Sounds like you might have muted voiceover. Try a 3 finger triple tap. Just > like on the iPhone. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > > > > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> Howdo i reverse?! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some good and some possibly bad news for bo users
Hello joseph, You already have this with Snow Leopard, and it's a user preference, so you can have different users with different languages. Check system preferences, languages and text. What we don't get with SL are non-english voices, so long live the Lion King :-) André On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:32 AM, joseph wrote: > hi list > > having heard that there will be more non english voices in lion, does this > mean that these voices would read mac's interface in a particular language, > for example, if we have a french voice, would i be able to change mac's > interface to french and have all the commands, buttons as well as text red by > the french voice? > > best > On 2 Mar 2011, at 22:57, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Right, >> >> And I'm assuming the voices on the Mac would be at a significantly higher >> bit rate than those found on IOS. So you can't really say they will sound >> worse just based on how they sound on the IOS platform. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Guys relax. I heard a sample of the voices and sorry I should have posted >>> the article, but someone will. I have to say the new voices sound great and >>> certainly no worse than Alex. So, I think we're going to be in for a real >>> treat. In fact the voices will be a download option as well, so you won't >>> have to have every voice on your machine. >>> I really think folks will like them. Of course I don't mind the Samantha >>> voice on the iOS platform all that much, but hell she grows on you after a >>> while; sort of like mold. :) >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Well, voices are totally subjective, and I can't speak for other languages, but I'd much rather have US espeak than tom or samantha. To me those voices sound like complete garbage. Every ear is different though. Some of my clients love those voices. Personally I think it will be a grand day when alex is ported to IOS. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-03-02, at 12:42 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Oh come on, the scansoft voices ain't so bad, be thankful it isn't espeak > or Orpheus. I for one think that the swedish scansoft voices are way way > better in terms of language treatment than the Infovox ones. > /Krister > > 2 mar 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev Mary Otten: > >> According to the article found at >> http://www.tuaw.com/ >> Mac OS 10 offers high quality multi-lingual voices, >> There are going to be a whole lot of high quality voices, in a variety >> of languages, available for download in the next iteration of Apple's >> os. For me, the one possible sour note was the reference to Samantha and >> Tom as an improvement over Alex that we have now. I hope this will not >> mean that Apple will decide to retire Alex in favor of what are, for me >> at least, vastly inferior voices in Samantha and Tom. There will be >> other English voices, the ones we know on the IPhone. Indeed, it sounds >> like the voices that are coming to Lion are those we now have on the >> I-devices. Great for speakers of languages other than English. Great for >> folks who prefer a non-U.S. English reading voice. But a definite leap >> backwards if they can Alex in favor of what's on the IPhone now, even if >> they include the male voice. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://
Re: iTunes question
Hello Matthew, You seem to have the Mac firewall activated. If this isn't what you want, you can turn it off in System Preferences, Security, Firewall tab. If you want the firewall on, check the "allow signed software to received incoming traffic" option, in the Advanced configuration in the same Firewall tab. Hope this helps, André On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:16 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hello listers. > I'm wondering if any of you are experiencing this problem. > When I launch iTunes every time, a dialog comes up asking me if I want to > allow incoming connections. This happens with other apps too but when I say > allow, for any other app accept iTunes,it never comes up again. > If any of you are experiencing this, have you found a fix? If not, I guess > I'll be sending a bug report to Apple Feedback. > Thanks for any info. > Matthew Campbell > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is there a command to announce the time on a Mac?
Hello, Just to add to what Donna and Colin said, the fastest way to get the date and time without the keyboard commander is to press Control F8 and then left arrow. Control F8 (or VO M, M) jumps you to the status bar, where you have icons for clock, battery, bluetooth, etc. Pressing left arrow once puts you on the clock icon. Note that in fact the clock icon is the last one on the row, and the left arrow wraps around to the last position. This doesn't happen if you have QuickNav on. HTH, André On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Eric! > You can enable keyboard commander and allow vo to be controlled by apple > scripts! > 1, open vo utility vo+f8 > 2, scroll until you get to the vo controlled by apple scripts button and > check it! > 3, go to the table and interact with it and scroll down to commanders and > then stop interacting! > 4, scroll th the keyboard tab and check it then scroll the enable button and > check that! > 5, you will now need to pick which option key you would like to use it should > be set on the right one but you can select the left one if you prefer! > 6, if you then scroll to the table of items and interact with it you will see > some preset scripts one of which is read time using the command [ in my case > ] right option+t! > you will also have the option to make your own shortcuts and seeing you've > got a mbp there should be trackpad options as well! > anyway I hope thats some help! > Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 3 Mar 2011, at 22:30, Eric Brinkman wrote: > >> Hi listers, >> >> I've had my macbook for a few months now, searched the voiceover help >> and listened to a few of the podcasts on blindcooltech. But I've >> found no info on how I can have VO tell me the time. The only >> time-related voice feature I've found is the ability to announce the >> time on the quarter-hour, half-hour, or hour in the settings. Is >> there a way to have the time announced when I want to hear it? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Eric >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: litle script question
Hello William,
I'm no expert in shell scripting, but why not just do:
if [ -f *.txt ]; then echo "yes" else echo "no" ; fi
HTH,
André
On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:35 PM, William Windels wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Can someone help me with a litle bash-script?
>
> I would like to test if there is a txt-file in the current working directory.
>
> I was thinking about the following code for the bashscript:
>
> var=${ls *.txt} && if [ -n "$var" ]; then echo "yes" else echo "no" ; fi
>
> The error I have here is:
> ${ls *.txt}: bad substitution
>
> the -n options looks if the variable is not empty , I think.
>
> Could someone help me pls?
>
> Thx for your help,
>
> best regards,
> William Windels
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Re: Pitchfork.com causes safari to crash with VO
Greetings from a fellow music nut, The problem is with the navigation links at the top, if you immediately jump to the first header Safari doesn't crash. Also, the ForkCasts section isn't accessible, or rather the videos aren't, as it uses an embedded flash player, and Flash isn't accessible with VO. HTH, André PS: I really, really wish Safari's plugin system could support NoScript, as most of VO/Safari problems seem to be around javascript. On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: > Hello again listers, > > Pitchfork.com is a music criticism website that I sometimes read. > However, when I go there on my Mac with VO, I can't seem to navigate > past the first couple of links before Safari crashes. Starting from > the top of the page, after the "playlist", I hear list end, and when I > try to go further it always crashes. Does this happen to anyone else? > > Thanks in advance. > > Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is there a command to announce the time on a Mac?
Hello Neil/Colin, My bad, I forgot cursor wrapping was an option in VO. Since in QuickNav the left an right arrow keys are the same as VO + left or right keys, the behavior will depend on your configuration. BTW, this option is configured in Voice Over Utility, Navigation category, "allow cursor wrapping". Personally I prefer to have it disabled as I feel it gives a more physical layout of the screen, and I don't get lost in an Infinite Loop :-) André On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Colin, > > I have cursor wrapping enabled and also have quick nav on. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > Twitter @NeilBarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:53, Colin M wrote: > > Hi Neil! > Like me Andre must have cursor wrapping off! > or something because like Andre if I have quick nav on it does not wrap but > it does without quick nav! > Or are you not using quick nav! :] > Colin > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:21, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > >> Andre, >> >> The wrapping does work with Quick Nav enabled, I just did it to confirm >> before writing! >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> Talks List Administrator >> >> Twitter @NeilBarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> On 3 Mar 2011, at 23:12, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Just to add to what Donna and Colin said, the fastest way to get the date >> and time without the keyboard commander is to press Control F8 and then left >> arrow. >> Control F8 (or VO M, M) jumps you to the status bar, where you have icons >> for clock, battery, bluetooth, etc. >> Pressing left arrow once puts you on the clock icon. >> Note that in fact the clock icon is the last one on the row, and the left >> arrow wraps around to the last position. This doesn't happen if you have >> QuickNav on. >> >> >> HTH, >> André >> >> On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric! >>> You can enable keyboard commander and allow vo to be controlled by apple >>> scripts! >>> 1, open vo utility vo+f8 >>> 2, scroll until you get to the vo controlled by apple scripts button and >>> check it! >>> 3, go to the table and interact with it and scroll down to commanders and >>> then stop interacting! >>> 4, scroll the the keyboard tab and check it then scroll the enable button >>> and check that! >>> 5, you will now need to pick which option key you would like to use it >>> should be set on the right one but you can select the left one if you >>> prefer! >>> 6, if you then scroll to the table of items and interact with it you will >>> see some preset scripts one of which is read time using the command [ in my >>> case ] right option+t! >>> you will also have the option to make your own shortcuts and seeing you've >>> got a mbp there should be trackpad options as well! >>> anyway I hope thats some help! >>> Colin >>> Qapla! >>> >>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >>> >>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 22:30, Eric Brinkman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi listers, >>>> >>>> I've had my macbook for a few months now, searched the voiceover help >>>> and listened to a few of the podcasts on blindcooltech. But I've >>>> found no info on how I can have VO tell me the time. The only >>>> time-related voice feature I've found is the ability to announce the >>>> time on the quarter-hour, half-hour, or hour in the settings. Is >>>> there a way to have the time announced when I want to hear it? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: separate user accounts on iPad?
Hello Donna, No, the most you can do is activate restrictions, but those are meant more like parental control or to make sure someone you lend your device to doesn't do something you don't want them to. Still, might be useful to make sure your husband doesn't use the iPad to check Cristiano Ronaldo's girlfriend in the latest Sports Illustrated :-) An envious portuguese, André On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > My husband has a shot at getting an ipad one at really great price. We're > discussing whether it could be a shared device. Does anyone know if you can > create separate user accounts on an iPad? > TIA, > Donna > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO
On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment. So you sell Pocket Rockets? :-) Sorry, just couldn't resist crossing the wires on the 2 threads. André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible MUD client
Hello, Several years ago I used Tiny Fugue in Unix machines, and it apparently also supports Mac OSX. It runs in a terminal and I remember it had a mode where the screen wasn't split between display and input areas, so if telnet and terminal works well with VO tf should also. Check it out at: http://tinyfugue.sourceforge.net/ A quick google only found binaries for PPC, but still... hope this is useful to someone :-) André On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > The other day, just on a whim, I signed into my old account on TinyTim, a > MUSH, just from Telnet in Terminal. VO read all incoming text, and it was > pretty easy to review the screen. So, while I hear Nuntius is accessible, > can't you just use Telnet? > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some questions
Hello Stephanie, To enable automatic login", go to System Preferences, Accounts and interact with "Accounts, Groups and Login Options". Do VO down arrow until you get to Login Options, and stop interacting. VO right arrow twice and you have the Automatic Login popup button, where you can choose which account to login automatically, or to set it to off. Note that if you are sharing your Mac with them, it may be a better solution to disable automatic login, and for instance set their account with no password. HTH, André On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > Hi all, > I have set up an account for our kids to use the mac. However, how do I set > my macbook to log in to their account automaticY? > Thanks, > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iOS 4.3 VoiceOver change log
Kevin, Don't know if you mention this in the podcast, but what about the AirPlay/VoiceOver bug? The one where VO is "sent" with the sound you're redirecting, and with a lag of a few seconds? TIA, André On Mar 9, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > iOS 4.3: VoiceOver Feature, Changes, Fixes and Bugs > One more thing, our feature request. > > > Feature > * with VoiceOver sounds, on power off screen, touch slide to power > off, and will hear drilling sound. > > > Changes > * In Safari, "tabs" button is relabeled as "pages". > * four-finger swipe up or down gesture (to move to first or previous > element) is now four-finger tap top-half or bottom-half of touch > screen. > > > Fixed: > * in slider, three-finger swipe up/down will move in units of 8. > * While performing a read-all, slide ring/silent switch will not > interrupt read all. > * If speech is turned off, adjusting volume doesn't turn speech back > on anymore. > * when composing/replying to messages in messages, Skype, TweetList, > IMPlus, and other apps; virtual keyboard is always present and > bluetooth keyboard text entry always works. > * replying to an email, adding recipient(s), VoiceOver focus can be > placed in message body and text can be entered. > * Forwarding an email, adding recipient(s), VoiceOver focus can be > placed in message body and text can be entered. > * On an active call, receive second call, buttons are labeled properly > * With hints off, opening/closing folder gives only tone, no longer > provide VO message about opening/closing folder. > > > Bugs > * Safari: when tab browsing, switching to different tabs, VoiceOver > will display old tab, not new, must toggle VoiceOver. (old) > * Safari: loading pages, using bluetooth keyboard to go to next > element, will report not found; must return to top and move to next > element. (old) > * Safari: multiple tabs, check tab count, clear out a few tabs, tab > count will still report tab count as if it was never cleared out; must > clear out Safari from app switcher for it to be updated properly. > (new) > * Mail and safari: when HTML content has loaded, says "web site > loaded"; should not be this verbose with hints off and sounds on. > Loaded sound is more than sufficient. (old) > * Any app/screen, when is loaded/refresh, VO focus is always in top > left; should be position in content area (preferably in last spot, > where one had VO focus). (old) > * Push alert auto-reads time, not message content. (old)) > * US TTS set to 100% will partially cut off X and H, partial words, > but still understandable and can tell what letters they are. (partial) > * UK or Australian VoiceOver at 70-100% has speech cut off with a > variety of characters,unusable. (old) > bluetooth keyboard/virtual, > A. keyboard getting stuck > B. reviewing by lines/words/characters. truncates lines, reads entire > paragraph then individual lines, and switching to word doesn't pick > up but instead starts at top of paragraph. Same occurs for when > navigating by lines and switching to words, focus is forced to top. > C. at times, can't toggle quick nab. may have to restart VoiceOver or iPhone > D. no iOS word wrapping, but it exist for iBooks. > > > Feature Request > * iOS word-wrapping > * iOS shortcut menu: dictionary, Google, etc. > * App switcher: kill all apps > * VoiceOver find > * Text selection and copy in read-only areas > * VoiceOver being smart about where focus is placed > * Option to auto-read push or not at all (not read time) > * Option to route VoiceOver to a different audio output > * Independent VoiceOver volume control without bluetooth keyboard. > * Pitch control > * punctuation control > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is the disappearance of Voice Over a unique problem, or do others have it, too?
Hello, I too suffer this, but not often enough to be a real problem. Eric, Do you leave your Mac on for long periods of time? Do you use sleep more than shutdown? Do you have one or more VMs using a lot of RAM? I wonder if this is some kind of memory leak problem, in VO or somewhere else in SL? I have the feeling whenever it happened to me I had the Mac running for some time - I mostly use it after work hours and always shutdown instead of sleep. HTH, André On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > the problems appear at random but with increasing frequency. > I'd take a trip to my local apple store, but its like 40 miles across town > and I don't venture out much during the day (my eyes hurt too damned much). > > I have run all the maintenance tools here. so far, nothing is detected as > being wrong. in fact, VO just dropped out on me while typing the last > sentence. > > I don't have any concurrent systems running here. I don't even own a copy of > windows. > > right now, re-installing would be a major PITA. I have too much work on my > drive and no place to back it up to. > > -Eric > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:54 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Eric >> >> Have you tried some of the general maintenance things such as utilities >> first aid, verifying and repairing permissions, or doing any re-installs? >> It would seem to me that if this problem is occurring that often, you could >> get it to reproduce for one of the geniuses at your Apple store and seek >> some resolution. If you are running windows on this machine, is it possible >> that there is a conflict caused by the two systems clashing? >> Just a couple of my thoughts. >> Carolyn HOn Mar 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> zack, >>> I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, >>> and not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously >>> considering dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been >>> occurring with such frequency that I might as well keep my machine off then >>> use it (more than 20 times a day). I use this machine as often as I do >>> because I simply don't have a windows machine and my powerbook is linux >>> only now (no voiceover support for 10.3.9). >>> >>> so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 >>> machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another >>> $1,500 to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since I >>> don't have the money, I don't see a lot of choices. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> Hi Eric, I think you're overstating the case a bit here... Yes, it's annoying, but I haven't found it that annoying. I haven't experienced it as often as others here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two solves it. Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not loose our sense of perspective. It could be much worse, we could be stuck on Windows with a screen reader not built into the OS, which when it freezes requires us to reboot the system completely. I'll stop now. Best, Zack. On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I have > seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with time. > it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in any case, > it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to accessibility. its > gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug reports to steve jobs > directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a swift kick in the pants to > make this a priority,. perhaps if more of us would do so, it would garner > enough attention that apple Inc. would have to do something about this > problem. > > -Eric > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described >> might at least be a usable work-around. I will try it the next time >> Voice Over abandons me. Thank you very much. >> >> To all of you who wrote, thank you. Sometimes, the only way to recover >> has been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just >> press Enter. Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since >> "Shut Down" is the default selection in this dialogue.. I will >> definitely post a message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of >> something they probably already know by now. >> >> My best to all and thanks again, >> >> Mike >> >> On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way >>> to get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8.
Re: Is the disappearance of Voice Over a unique problem, or do others have it, too?
On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:00 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Andre: > I really haven't had that issue show up, and I mostly use sleep mode for my > mbp. So, that wouldn't support this theory. But, I can sure empathize with > how frustrating it would be. And, I hope the accessibility team and the > development engineers can ferret out the cause. Oh man! And I already sent an email to IBM to see if Watson wanted to share a flat in Baker Street :-) Seriously, that does seem to point to a different cause. The hang doesn't happen very often on my Mac, so I haven't really paid enough attention to the MacOS state when it does.. BTW, do you have 4 GB of RAM on your MBP or more? Cheers, André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: organizing bookmarks
Hello Laura, Command Option B displays all your bookmarks . In here you can change your bookmarks display order, their name or URL, add bookmark folders,etc. Was this what you were looking for? HTH, André On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: > Hi All, > Is there a way to organize my bookmarks? on my PC I could organize the > bookmarks by alphabet. can that be done on the mac? > Thanks for the help, > Laura > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What is a right pointing double arrow?
Hello Howard, The right pointing double arrow is just part of your bank's site, not some sort of Safari button. >From your description, this image seems to have a link that is only activated >through a javascript event, namely the mouse click. Try moving the mouse cursor to where VO is (VO-Command-F5) and then clicking what's under the mouse cursor with VO-Shift-Space bar. HTH, André On Mar 16, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Howard Dupuis wrote: > On my bank's website, there's a clickable element that ends with a > "right pointing double arrow." (It changes whether you are viewing > just the past 30 days, or a longer period.) However, no matter what > kind of key command, or mouse command, or prayerful command I use, > nothing seems to happen. Is this right pointing double arrow telling > me that something different needs to be done to activate this > particular element? > Thanks. > -- Howard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: organizing bookmarks
Hello Laura, After you press Command Option B you'll be in a Search Text Field. VO left arrow once and you'll find a table. Interact with it (VO-Shift-down arrow)and you'll see categories for History (for the list of web pages you have visited so far) Bookmarks Bar, Bookmarks Menu, All RSS Feeds, and one entry for each bookmark import, if you did any. Use the up and down arrow keys to move between the categories. You probably have been adding bookmarks to the Bookmarks Menu, so select that and stop interacting with the table (VO-Shift-up arrow). VO-right arrow twice and you're at a different table. Interact with it and you'll see all your bookmarks. To create a bookmark folder navigate to the bookmark immediately above where you want the folder to be and press Command-Shift-N. Type the name you want to give it (you won't hear it being echoed) and finish with Enter. To change a bookmark location in the Menu, just cut it (Command-X) and paste it (Command-V), again on the bookmark immediately above where you want this one to be. To change the name or URL of a bookmark, select it and press VO-Shift-M for the application menu, where you'll find this and other options. Hope I managed to be clear :-) Cheers, André On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: > Hi Andre, > Once I have pressed command option B how do I make the changes that > you listed? > Thanks, > Laura > > Andre Nuno Soares wrote: >> Hello Laura, >> >> Command Option B displays all your bookmarks . In here you can change your >> bookmarks display order, their name or URL, add bookmark folders,etc. >> Was this what you were looking for? >> >> >> >> HTH, >> André >> >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> Is there a way to organize my bookmarks? on my PC I could organize the >>> bookmarks by alphabet. can that be done on the mac? >>> Thanks for the help, >>> Laura >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Creating an Executable File
Hello Jeff, On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: (snip, snip) > ()I was running my script with the following line: > > sh websites (websites being the filename) > > If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done: > > . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename) The first way wasn't working because the directory change was being done in the shell that you were invoking (the sh in the beginning of the line), not the Terminal shell. Basically you were launching a program called sh and telling it to run the series of commands in the file websites and then terminate. The second way works but it also isn't running a script. In this case you are telling the Terminal shell to execute the series of commands in the file websites, which works for what you want, but doesn't run the script as a separate process and also doesn't, for instance, allow using a different shell in the script, like tcsh or even perl or python. To create a shell script, you must: 1) Create a text file with the "hash bang" in the first line, like: #!/bin/bash - note the exclamation mark (the bang) after the hash. Note also there's no spaces 2) Give the file execution permissions. 3) To run it, place the file in a directory in your PATH environment variable, or do something like: ./websites where ./ is interpreted by the shell as the current directory. If you had placed the file in a directory called scripts in your home, you could do: ~/scripts/websites or /Users/myuser/scripts/websites Hope my explanation wasn't too confusing :-) HTH, André >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: 10.6.7 definetely smoother, and a Question
Hi, The support article on the MacOS X v10.6.7 update is: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4472 HTH, André On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Thanks for that, Scott. I'll look more carefully next time there's an > update. I'll see if I can poke around the updates app or the website to find > past info as well. > > Teresa > On Mar 22, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Teresa, >> >> Yes. If you navigate through the Software Update screen, you will find an >> html area that contains release notes. YOU are not likely to find much >> information about accessibility directly, but there is information that >> might be of interest. I do not recall if you have to click on the details >> button first before it appears or not, but hope that helps. >> >> Scott >> On Mar 22, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> I'm liking it already. I left it to do its installing thing while I >>> puttered around the house, and it was ready to go when I came back to it. >>> It's snappier for sure, and I haven't had the spontaneous activation of >>> quick-navigation mode, either. (touch wood!) >>> >>> This discussion brings me to a question. Is there a way to view release >>> notes for each update to look at the changes that were made? >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: 10.6.7
Hello Ray, Do you have "Allow VoiceOver to be controlled with AppleScript" checked? Many people have reported VO crashing when using the Keyboard Commander and having this option off. Check it in VO Utility, General category. HTH, André On Mar 22, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Yes, my keyboard commander is on. Let's say I have such a crash again. How > then, without speech, can I turn keyboard commander off? Also, will I then > be able to get speech back? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > > On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> Is your keyboard commander on? >> My VoiceOver does that part crash thing too but if I turn off the keyboard >> commander, it'll work fine again. >> On 2011-03-22, at 5:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> I'm having what I call partial crashes. What will sometimes happen is >>> this. I'll be proceeding as normal, and then, Voice OVer will crash in >>> such a way that I hear the voice over sounds but no speech. Nothing will >>> restore it at all; not even control+Option+command+eject. The only >>> solution in such a case is to do a hard reset by pressing the power button >>> until the machine shuts down. Wait for about 20 seconds, then, power back >>> on. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> Facebook: >>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>> >>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 4:47 PM, louie wrote: >>> I am still having voice over quitting. I press f5 four times to get voice over back. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: oppinion: Apple Tracking
Hello all, John Gruber has a great collection of pointers on this subject: http://daringfireball.net/ Two of the most interesting: http://chipotle.tumblr.com/post/4781767278/dont-panic-but-look-a-little-nervous http://ihnatko.com/2011/04/20/hey-wonderful-theres-a-location-tracking-file-on-my-iphone/ Cheers, André On Apr 23, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > Hi, Mike. > You write >> Also, what people don't realize is that all smart phones do this, not just >> apple. Android does, and most likely, blackberries do too. So, it's not just >> an Apple thing. > > I'm not quite sure what you mean by "this", but you seem to be saying > that Android and iOS are doing the same thing. With respect, I don't > think this is correct, and would appreciate it if you could point out > how you know this. the iOS system is logging all appearances of > cellular towers, as well as more specific data when it can get it, > since the install of the operating system. Android is, so far as I > know, caching the last fifty unique towers connected to and the last > 200 wireless network names/locations seen. Considering that there are > many cellular towers and even more wireless networks in the average > city, this cache may last anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks. If > you back up your phone, the iOS log may last months if not years, and > even if you don't back up your phone, the log may last months. Also, > the iOS log identifies repeated appearances of the same towers. That > is, if you go to work and then return home, the iOS log will log when > you see the towers on the way to work and then will log those same > towers again on the way back. The Android Cache will not do this. > There is a great deal more of a legitimate use for the Android Cache > than there is for the iOS log, as I understand it. If you have heard > differently, I'd love to hear of it. Note that I am not able to verify > what I've said above about Android, I don't have an Android device > here to try with. What I'm saying is only what I've read. > Aman > > On 4/23/11, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> Also, what people don't realize is that all smart phones do this, not just >> apple. Android does, and most likely, blackberries do too. So, it's not just >> an Apple thing. >> On Apr 22, 2011, at 6:09 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Oh, great! So, just don't go where you don't belong, and what's the big >>> scare here? Maybe I'm overly Apple loyal. But, really, do we all have so >>> many secret places we go? What about onstar? That lovely service that >>> can respond in minutes to your emergency with the push of a button. Quite >>> honestly, I don't think a single soul would benefit from knowing where >>> i've been or where I'm going. >>> I get the feeling someone's looking at Apple's profits and wanting a >>> piece of the Apple pie. >>> >>> On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> We talked about the pop up ad possibility a while back, now it seems apple is gathering data on your whereabouts? here is the story. TVBizwire Researchers Say Apple Is Tracking Locations of Mobile Device Users betanews A team of researchers says Apple is secretly obtaining the locations of iOS4 users and recording them in a hidden file, according to a betanews.com report. Two of the researchers, Alasdair Allan and Peter Warden of O'Reilly Media, presented their findings today at the Where 2.0 conference in Santa Clara, Calif. According to the story, the revelation raises "obvious privacy concerns and questions as to why Apple would be storing such information. The researchers believe it is intentional, as the file is restored after backups and even when the user switches to a new device." The group says the functionality is apparently new to iOS4, the mobile operating system that runs the latest iPad, iPhone and iPod touch. The researchers have reportedly tried to contact Apple's security team but had yet to hear back from the company. The story reports: "Allan says that the existence of the file on on your computer is a security risk, as it is both unprotected and un encrypted. `It can also be easily accessed on the device itself if it falls into the wrong hands,' he wrote in a blog post. `Anybody with access to this file knows where you've been over the last year, since iOS4 was released.'" http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2011/04/researchers-say-apple-is-track.php http://api.recaptcha.net/noscript?k=6Lcb_78SAHmtN74lHVK-IOutZhLRidl4tCzl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Re: iOS 4.3.2: New Software Keyboard Rotor Option
Hello all, Just one quick note: this new rotor option was added in IOS 4.3.0. This was also when the 4 finger flick up or down to go to the top or bottom of the screen was replaced with the 4 finger tap at the top half or bottom half of the screen, eliminating all 4 finger swipe gestures. Cheers, André On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Erik, > > I haven't updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 yet, but a rotor setting for > "containers" is great. Containers are the separate sub-units of the screen > that make use of the larger screen format of the iPad. For example, in the > Mail app on the iPad, when you're in landscape mode there is a list of > Mailboxes or messages on the left side of the screen, and the currently > selected message displayed on the right. Similarly, in Settings you have the > list of "Settings" categories on the left, and the detailed menu page (e.g. > "Accessibility", "VoiceOver", or "Web Rotor") on the right. Those are two > different containers, and it sounds as though the rotor has added an easy way > to navigate between the two, which is something that I've been wanting. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Apr 19, 2011, at 08:53, Erik Heil wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I just updated my iPad to iOS 4.3.2 and noticed a new rotor option within te >> software keyboards called "containers". Anyone of you guys knw what this is? >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A Few Questions About My New iPAD2.
Hello Georges, There are no iPad versions of theWeather, Clock and Calculator apps that come pre-installed in iPhones and (I guess) iPods. For an alarm clock, try Alarmed. For weather, I've heard good things of Pocket Weather and Weather Bug, but you can also just use: http://braille.wunderground.com/ For a calculator I have no idea... anyone have a good suggestion? HTH, André On Apr 23, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > Ok, I want these missing apps on my ipad, can I get an accessible ipad > version of them from the app store? Suggestions please, thanks. > Original message: >> With regard to the Weather app, the iPad does not have this app, Clock app, >> or Calculator app. > >> On Apr 23, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Chinyoka on Macbook wrote: > >>> Hi Georges, > >>> You have to delete the device backup of the device that's not working. >>> Well, every time you connect a device, iTunes tries to make a backup before >>> any syncing, so go to your iTunes Preferences. Navigate to the Devices page >>> and the first field you tab to should be "Backup". If you're on Mac, >>> interact with this Backup table, otherwise on Windows just use the Up and >>> Down arrow keys to locate the offending backup. The names of the backups >>> will be the same as the name of your device, so just highlight the one you >>> wish to remove. Then tab to "Remove" button and the device settings in the >>> backup will be deleted. > >>> HTH, > >>> Ishe > >>> On 23 Apr,2011, at 8:57 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > Hi everyone! > First thing I wonder where is the weather app on the ipad2? I don't find it on the first page like on my old ipod touch 64gb which I bought last year. > Now comes the real geeky question for those of you who know a lot about itunes. > How do I clean iTunes from no longer wanted information about a certain iPad I've connected in the past so when I connect a new one I don't get suggestions about from which iPad I want to backup? In other words how do I delete info about old devices that were connected in the past and didn't work from the beginning? > I don't know which mistake I did yesterday when I connected an iPad and wanted to enable voiceover on it and I kept failing to do that although I checked voiceover and got the warning that vo will change the original gestures and although I pressed continue I was always returned back to the previous dialogue and the dialogue always came in a double window. I finally had to install iTunes on another machine that never had it before just to enable vo on this new iPad. I am in the process of purchasing yet another ipad2 and want to use it on this machine but don't want itunes to see info from the device that never worked, thanks. > -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >>> Ishe > >>> Mobile number: +263 772 930 422 >>> WEB URL: www.chinyoka-educational.com >>> Skype ID: sunshinechinyoka > >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > Georges Zeinoun > Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE > Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 > Mobile: +46707567315 > E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net > > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisiona
Re: switching default email account in mail
Hello Sarai, To drag things with VO, use the "sticky mouse down/up", VO + Command + Shift + Space Bar. So, to make your GMail account your default one you should go to Mail Preferences, Accounts. Interact with the accounts table, move with VO+ arrow keys to your Gmail account and press VO + Command + Shift + Space Bar, to "grab" it. Do a VO + down or up arrow to move this account over where you want it and then press VO + Command + Shift + Space Bar again, to "release" it. HTH, André On May 29, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > I'm trying to figure out how to make Gmail my default email program. > According to Apple, you drag the accounts in the order you want them listed > in the accounts table. I cannot figure out how to do this with Voiceover. Any > ideas? > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
